Comments on: Hollywood Loses the War in Iraq http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:38:11 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: xcrfamas http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-327672 xcrfamas Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:56:27 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-327672 war is not about who is right its about who is left... war is not about who is right its about who is left…

]]> By: Ed Driscoll » Lights, Camera, Reenactment! http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-248549 Ed Driscoll » Lights, Camera, Reenactment! Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:27:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-248549 [...] the economy, doesn’t Kerry know that these virulently anti-American war movies invariably bombed at the box office? Filed under: Bobos In Paradise, Hollywood, Interrupted, Muggeridge's Law, The Memory Hole, War And [...] [...] the economy, doesn’t Kerry know that these virulently anti-American war movies invariably bombed at the box office? Filed under: Bobos In Paradise, Hollywood, Interrupted, Muggeridge’s Law, The Memory Hole, War And [...]

]]> By: Dave DeLuca http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-84627 Dave DeLuca Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:57:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-84627 I am always checking out pro Veteran, pro troop sites and I came across a site by an independent filmmaker name Jack Marino. Donna you mentioned in your post about how the vietnam vets consider themselves 'forgotten'. Well this guy have made a small low budget independent film called FORGOTTEN HEROES and he made it twenty years ago. I recently bought his DVD and he sent me a small press release telling how he was blackballed in Hollywood. His film is the only pro Vietnam film out there because he made it in 1988 and finished it in 1990. Long before Mel's film. This film is a freaking little gem of a film. It is has a powerful message and a heartfelt tribute to all of our Vietnam vets. Now to top if off this guy Marino has posted a letter he has received from the President of the United States thanking him for his work on FORGOTTEN HEROES and the film can't find a release. Marino is selling his film, himself through his web site at www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com. Talk about tenacity and persistence this guy is relentless. He even mentioned that certain conservative film festivals won't play his pro Vietnam veteran film in their festival. This guy is fighting both the anti-military crowd in Hollywood and those that say they support our veterans in the conservative community in Los Angeles. The kicker is now he has a letter from President Bush validating his film and praising his son who is serving in Iraq. Talk about out flanking all his distractors. His film has a great little story, it was his first time as a director and the cast is all unknown but for William Smith, (Falconetti, Born Losers, Red Dawn) as the defecting General in Vietnam. Marino made a WWII style film in Vietnam and there are NO F-words in this action war drama. Unbelievable!!! IF all you here who support our veterans, especially our Vietnam veterans and don't want to see Vets portrayed as baby killers, then FORGOTTEN HEROES is the small indie film for you. I loved the the film, you can tell he had nothing to work with and this guy just refused to give up and say die. He even has a quote from a retired General thanking the Vietnam vets and welcoming them home and this General was a platoon leader in vietnam in 1966. I am going to help this guy get the word out to everyone on these blogs. I put my money where my mouth was and bought his film to show him support for sticking by this film against all the odds against him. He also is donating 25% of his gross sales to the THE AMERICAN VETERANS DISABLED FOR LIFE MEMORIAL FUND. So $5.00 from each DVD sale if going to help our vets from all of our wars for freedom. We all sit here and blog up a storm about that there are no films out there that support the troops and vets. Well I happen to stumble on to this site www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com and we have one hell of a fighter out there and all he wants is for us to buy his DVD so all of the Vietnam vets will know, that there is a film that says. THANK YOU and WELCOME HOME BROTHERS. Check it out, the letter from the President is awesome! I am always checking out pro Veteran, pro troop sites and I came across a site by an independent filmmaker name Jack Marino. Donna you mentioned in your post about how the vietnam vets consider themselves ‘forgotten’. Well this guy have made a small low budget independent film called FORGOTTEN HEROES and he made it twenty years ago. I recently bought his DVD and he sent me a small press release telling how he was blackballed in Hollywood. His film is the only pro Vietnam film out there because he made it in 1988 and finished it in 1990. Long before Mel’s film. This film is a freaking little gem of a film. It is has a powerful message and a heartfelt tribute to all of our Vietnam vets.

Now to top if off this guy Marino has posted a letter he has received from the President of the United States thanking him for his work on FORGOTTEN HEROES and the film can’t find a release. Marino is selling his film, himself through his web site at

http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com.

Talk about tenacity and persistence this guy is relentless. He even mentioned that certain conservative film festivals won’t play his pro Vietnam veteran film in their festival. This guy is fighting both the anti-military crowd in Hollywood and those that say they support our veterans in the conservative community in Los Angeles. The kicker is now he has a letter from President Bush validating his film and praising his son who is serving in Iraq. Talk about out flanking all his distractors.

His film has a great little story, it was his first time as a director and the cast is all unknown but for William Smith, (Falconetti, Born Losers, Red Dawn) as the defecting General in Vietnam. Marino made a WWII style film in Vietnam and there are NO F-words in this action war drama. Unbelievable!!!

IF all you here who support our veterans, especially our Vietnam veterans and don’t want to see Vets portrayed as baby killers, then FORGOTTEN HEROES is the small indie film for you. I loved the the film, you can tell he had nothing to work with and this guy just refused to give up and say die.

He even has a quote from a retired General thanking the Vietnam vets and welcoming them home and this General was a platoon leader in vietnam in 1966. I am going to help this guy get the word out to everyone on these blogs. I put my money where my mouth was and bought his film to show him support for sticking by this film against all the odds against him.

He also is donating 25% of his gross sales to the THE AMERICAN VETERANS DISABLED FOR LIFE MEMORIAL FUND. So $5.00 from each DVD sale if going to help our vets from all of our wars for freedom.

We all sit here and blog up a storm about that there are no films out there that support the troops and vets. Well I happen to stumble on to this site http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com and we have one hell of a fighter out there and all he wants is for us to buy his DVD so all of the Vietnam vets will know, that there is a film that says. THANK YOU and WELCOME HOME BROTHERS.

Check it out, the letter from the President is awesome!

]]> By: Dirty Harry’s Place… » DHP On Pajamas Satellite Radio http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-84603 Dirty Harry’s Place… » DHP On Pajamas Satellite Radio Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:03:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-84603 [...] buddy Ed Driscoll had me on his show about the Pajamas Media piece I wrote covering Hollywood’s losing the losing of the war. I start about 45-minutes [...] [...] buddy Ed Driscoll had me on his show about the Pajamas Media piece I wrote covering Hollywood’s losing the losing of the war. I start about 45-minutes [...]

]]> By: Bugs http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-80155 Bugs Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:37:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-80155 Sorry, that comment was more about the WoT than the war in Iraq - unless you consider Iraq to be a campaign in the WoT, which I kind of do. Sorry, that comment was more about the WoT than the war in Iraq – unless you consider Iraq to be a campaign in the WoT, which I kind of do.

]]> By: Bugs http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-80147 Bugs Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:26:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-80147 I actually have to amend my previous comment. Believe it or not, The Dark Knight may be the most powerful movie about terrorism to come out since the WoT began. The script touches on many of the moral - even existential - challenges we're dealing with these days. It asks how people who value human life, law and order, individual rights and freedom can fight an enemy who seems to value none of those things - who, in fact, recognizes no rules at all in his war against civilization. It shows how such an enemy, through terror, can manipulate us into doing anything he wants, including violating our own principles so that we risk becoming "just as bad" as he is. It also presents leaders who are forced to respond to his plots when there seem to be no "right" or "good" or "correct" choices open to them. And it shows ordinary people refusing to be manipulated - even at the cost of their own lives. The ending is messy, not triumphal, not even making the best of a bad situation. More like the characters living with the choices they've made and vowing to fight on. OK, it's comic book characters in costumes beating each other up. Not usually my thing. But I found it to be a surprisingly mature and accurate philosophical depiction of our current world. I noticed something similar in Iron Man as it dealt with the unintended consequences of selling arms (or information, or anything powerful) in a global economy. Compared to these "superhero" films, Hollywood's "serious" WoT-related offerings have been more or less emotional anti-war blurts. The Dark Knight's writers, in contrast, that it's not as simple as being for or against. Sometimes you don't have a choice. I actually have to amend my previous comment. Believe it or not, The Dark Knight may be the most powerful movie about terrorism to come out since the WoT began. The script touches on many of the moral – even existential – challenges we’re dealing with these days. It asks how people who value human life, law and order, individual rights and freedom can fight an enemy who seems to value none of those things – who, in fact, recognizes no rules at all in his war against civilization. It shows how such an enemy, through terror, can manipulate us into doing anything he wants, including violating our own principles so that we risk becoming “just as bad” as he is. It also presents leaders who are forced to respond to his plots when there seem to be no “right” or “good” or “correct” choices open to them. And it shows ordinary people refusing to be manipulated – even at the cost of their own lives. The ending is messy, not triumphal, not even making the best of a bad situation. More like the characters living with the choices they’ve made and vowing to fight on.

OK, it’s comic book characters in costumes beating each other up. Not usually my thing. But I found it to be a surprisingly mature and accurate philosophical depiction of our current world. I noticed something similar in Iron Man as it dealt with the unintended consequences of selling arms (or information, or anything powerful) in a global economy. Compared to these “superhero” films, Hollywood’s “serious” WoT-related offerings have been more or less emotional anti-war blurts. The Dark Knight’s writers, in contrast, that it’s not as simple as being for or against. Sometimes you don’t have a choice.

]]> By: kevin http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-79878 kevin Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:48:55 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-79878 the only good movie about the vietnam war was the deer hunter, a movie about friendship more than anything. the best movie ever made if i might say. the only good movie about the vietnam war was the deer hunter, a movie about friendship more than anything. the best movie ever made if i might say.

]]> By: heather http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-79709 heather Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:58:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-79709 this is not a war movie, but it stars Mel Gibson: "Hamlet." I have watched it, and the Olivier version, and believe me, Gibson is miles better. I admit, Olivier has a gorgeous voice, but his Hamlet prances around in a depressing gloom; and let us pass over Jean Simmons' Ophelia in silence. Gibson's Hamlet, on the other hand, is an killer and a spoiler, a great character. Bonham-Carter's Ophelia made me want to cry. Mel Gibson has been discounted in every way, long before Passion, or his drunken tirade in Malibu. this is not a war movie, but it stars Mel Gibson: “Hamlet.” I have watched it, and the Olivier version, and believe me, Gibson is miles better. I admit, Olivier has a gorgeous voice, but his Hamlet prances around in a depressing gloom; and let us pass over Jean Simmons’ Ophelia in silence. Gibson’s Hamlet, on the other hand, is an killer and a spoiler, a great character. Bonham-Carter’s Ophelia made me want to cry.

Mel Gibson has been discounted in every way, long before Passion, or his drunken tirade in Malibu.

]]> By: NahnCee http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-79510 NahnCee Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:33:38 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-79510 "From Russia with Love" is a very entertaining and informational movie about the cold war and the USSR and its policies and tactics. “From Russia with Love” is a very entertaining and informational movie about the cold war and the USSR and its policies and tactics.

]]> By: Pete http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-79389 Pete Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:48:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hollywood-loses-the-war-in-iraq/#comment-79389 Oops. I see it was already mentioned. Oops. I see it was already mentioned.

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