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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey let&#039;s give Obama some credit here;It can&#039;t be easy to do an impersonation of Lincoln when the person he&#039;s really trying to impersonate is Hugo Chavez!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey let&#8217;s give Obama some credit here;It can&#8217;t be easy to do an impersonation of Lincoln when the person he&#8217;s really trying to impersonate is Hugo Chavez!</p>
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		<title>By: Moogie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I derive a great deal of pleasure from reading comments left on blogs. They are usually educational, sometimes inspiring, and quite often an interesting representation of the brain connected to the fingers tapping on the &quot;key-board.&quot; 

To Paul Unalaska: I was nodding my head as I read your response to kgaretson until I reached the last paragraph. I am sure you meant to say &quot;Democrat actors&quot; rather than &quot;Republican actors.&quot; It&#039;s okay - you&#039;re allowed a gaffe or two.

To kgaretson: if I had wanted to live in a socialist regime, well... that&#039;s where I would be right now. The old cliche &quot;if you don&#039;t like it here, then leave&quot; is a lazy way to debate such an important issue.

To Ralph Alter, writer of this intriguing blog: thank you for giving all of us something interesting to mull over. 

&quot;Honest Obe&quot; just doesn&#039;t work for me. I am going to call him &quot;Omnibama.&quot; He is all things to all people - in his own mind. He has all of the answers. He knows all sorts of things. He can say all kinds of words. He has all kinds of rhetoric memorized and at the ready so that he may use bites for all occasions. 

He has it all now. The Man Behind the Curtain, the Master of Smoke and Mirrors, the Great Opaque One ... 

I &quot;honestly&quot; can&#039;t figure out how anything about him can be compared to Lincoln. So what if they both moved around a lot during their childhood. So do millions of others (the term &quot;Army brat&quot; comes to mind). 

So they both switched parties. The name &quot;Joe Lieberman&quot; comes to mind.

They both voiced their opposition to a war. We know what direction Lincoln went after that. We don&#039;t know what direction Omnibama will go, but I think most of us smart people can predict his course.

Stumping in the south or not stumping in the south is not even comparable, given the vast differences between the 1860s and now.

Lastly, let&#039;s talk about rhetoric. This word has a couple of different meanings. The first is to be able to use language, whether in writing or speaking, to effectively persuade. A secondary meaning is this: &quot;Language that is elaborate, pretentious, insincere, or intellectually vacuous.&quot; - The American Heritage College Dictionary.

Omnibama falls under the second definition.

Sorry this was so long. Sometimes I get carried away by my own rhetoric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I derive a great deal of pleasure from reading comments left on blogs. They are usually educational, sometimes inspiring, and quite often an interesting representation of the brain connected to the fingers tapping on the &#8220;key-board.&#8221; </p>
<p>To Paul Unalaska: I was nodding my head as I read your response to kgaretson until I reached the last paragraph. I am sure you meant to say &#8220;Democrat actors&#8221; rather than &#8220;Republican actors.&#8221; It&#8217;s okay &#8211; you&#8217;re allowed a gaffe or two.</p>
<p>To kgaretson: if I had wanted to live in a socialist regime, well&#8230; that&#8217;s where I would be right now. The old cliche &#8220;if you don&#8217;t like it here, then leave&#8221; is a lazy way to debate such an important issue.</p>
<p>To Ralph Alter, writer of this intriguing blog: thank you for giving all of us something interesting to mull over. </p>
<p>&#8220;Honest Obe&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t work for me. I am going to call him &#8220;Omnibama.&#8221; He is all things to all people &#8211; in his own mind. He has all of the answers. He knows all sorts of things. He can say all kinds of words. He has all kinds of rhetoric memorized and at the ready so that he may use bites for all occasions. </p>
<p>He has it all now. The Man Behind the Curtain, the Master of Smoke and Mirrors, the Great Opaque One &#8230; </p>
<p>I &#8220;honestly&#8221; can&#8217;t figure out how anything about him can be compared to Lincoln. So what if they both moved around a lot during their childhood. So do millions of others (the term &#8220;Army brat&#8221; comes to mind). </p>
<p>So they both switched parties. The name &#8220;Joe Lieberman&#8221; comes to mind.</p>
<p>They both voiced their opposition to a war. We know what direction Lincoln went after that. We don&#8217;t know what direction Omnibama will go, but I think most of us smart people can predict his course.</p>
<p>Stumping in the south or not stumping in the south is not even comparable, given the vast differences between the 1860s and now.</p>
<p>Lastly, let&#8217;s talk about rhetoric. This word has a couple of different meanings. The first is to be able to use language, whether in writing or speaking, to effectively persuade. A secondary meaning is this: &#8220;Language that is elaborate, pretentious, insincere, or intellectually vacuous.&#8221; &#8211; The American Heritage College Dictionary.</p>
<p>Omnibama falls under the second definition.</p>
<p>Sorry this was so long. Sometimes I get carried away by my own rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: JackT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deguello, if you actually think helping kids get educated, being an advocate for the lower class, giving up high paying jobs to work in the community is a &quot;chicago street thug&quot;, then your perception of reality is so limited that any further comments from you will be ignored. Because obviously, your brain is not up to task of conversing with adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deguello, if you actually think helping kids get educated, being an advocate for the lower class, giving up high paying jobs to work in the community is a &#8220;chicago street thug&#8221;, then your perception of reality is so limited that any further comments from you will be ignored. Because obviously, your brain is not up to task of conversing with adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look out Nashville and Elvis; Here comes Obama! Well bless my soul, what&#039;s wrong with me?</description>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jack:For the last several months I&#039;ve seen a corrupt,chicago street tough and demagogue,channel Lincoln to legitimize himself, and detract attention from his lack of  achievementsand his abysmal ignorance of economics,history, and geopolitics.Obama can no more emulate Lincoln,than Bush could emulate Churchill.If you believe he has studied Lincoln, I have some real estate I&#039;d like to sell you in Cuba.The fact that he won an election doesn&#039;t prove anything other than a bare majority of American voters are as naive as you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jack:For the last several months I&#8217;ve seen a corrupt,chicago street tough and demagogue,channel Lincoln to legitimize himself, and detract attention from his lack of  achievementsand his abysmal ignorance of economics,history, and geopolitics.Obama can no more emulate Lincoln,than Bush could emulate Churchill.If you believe he has studied Lincoln, I have some real estate I&#8217;d like to sell you in Cuba.The fact that he won an election doesn&#8217;t prove anything other than a bare majority of American voters are as naive as you are.</p>
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		<title>By: JackT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with emulating someone you admire and respect? He&#039;s trying to be a good President by using our best President as example to inspire him. I think it&#039;s great. Lincoln has always inspired me as well. I think of him often. For the past 30 years I&#039;ve been deeply moved by this man. I admire his wisdom, his leadership, his toughness, his writings, his humbleness, his unshakable strength, and his forward thinking. Obama never said he was like Lincoln, he said Lincoln inspires him, he said he has read Lincoln&#039;s history, his writings, and studied his administration. It&#039;s you losers who seem to find something wrong with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with emulating someone you admire and respect? He&#8217;s trying to be a good President by using our best President as example to inspire him. I think it&#8217;s great. Lincoln has always inspired me as well. I think of him often. For the past 30 years I&#8217;ve been deeply moved by this man. I admire his wisdom, his leadership, his toughness, his writings, his humbleness, his unshakable strength, and his forward thinking. Obama never said he was like Lincoln, he said Lincoln inspires him, he said he has read Lincoln&#8217;s history, his writings, and studied his administration. It&#8217;s you losers who seem to find something wrong with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann141</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann141</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He makes me sick.  He is never doing anything except roleplaying.  It&#039;s impossible for him to be his own man, because he literally has no identity of his own.  

All of his life he has been playing to some audience or other.  The problem we have now is that he&#039;s been given the most powerful stage on earth.  Even the worst singer in the world, given the most powerful microphone, can get a following (think William Hung).

He is a dangerous, dangerous man.  (And, just because I haven&#039;t thought to mention it before, Rahm Emanuel is a complete jerk--did you catch the photo of him on imaculation day?  What a jerk.)

The things these people are saying and implying about others are only exposing them, day after day.  Sickening.

Bambi is no Abraham Lincoln.  I&#039;m a lifelong Republican, and I will take it much further: Bambi is no LBJ.  Come to think of it, LBJ would not have given him the time of day.  He might have picked him up the ears and put him out, just like the beagle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He makes me sick.  He is never doing anything except roleplaying.  It&#8217;s impossible for him to be his own man, because he literally has no identity of his own.  </p>
<p>All of his life he has been playing to some audience or other.  The problem we have now is that he&#8217;s been given the most powerful stage on earth.  Even the worst singer in the world, given the most powerful microphone, can get a following (think William Hung).</p>
<p>He is a dangerous, dangerous man.  (And, just because I haven&#8217;t thought to mention it before, Rahm Emanuel is a complete jerk&#8211;did you catch the photo of him on imaculation day?  What a jerk.)</p>
<p>The things these people are saying and implying about others are only exposing them, day after day.  Sickening.</p>
<p>Bambi is no Abraham Lincoln.  I&#8217;m a lifelong Republican, and I will take it much further: Bambi is no LBJ.  Come to think of it, LBJ would not have given him the time of day.  He might have picked him up the ears and put him out, just like the beagle.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not American. However, I have a gut feeling that the people of America have been played for fools by a very slick individual. 

There is no comparison between ubama and Lincoln. Ubama has done nothing except to prevaricate on important issues. He would sign orders to kill innocent human beings without thinking because it is what his leftist cronies desire. 

Abraham Lincolm was a hated man when he was the President of the USA. He was courageous and he had conviction. That is something totally missing where ubama is concerned.  OOps I really meant osama - get my drift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not American. However, I have a gut feeling that the people of America have been played for fools by a very slick individual. </p>
<p>There is no comparison between ubama and Lincoln. Ubama has done nothing except to prevaricate on important issues. He would sign orders to kill innocent human beings without thinking because it is what his leftist cronies desire. </p>
<p>Abraham Lincolm was a hated man when he was the President of the USA. He was courageous and he had conviction. That is something totally missing where ubama is concerned.  OOps I really meant osama &#8211; get my drift.</p>
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		<title>By: paul_unalaska</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul_unalaska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kgaretson, so you&#039;re saying we should give Obama benefit of the doubt.  Yet, your &#039;McStupid&#039; nauseum is good decorum?

Perhaps I should play that &#039;game&#039; too.  It&#039;s only fair, right?  Hmm, let me see.  How about, &#039;Uhbama&#039; for this is how he sounds when not reading the teleprompter.

How about &#039;Bambi&#039;, due to his big ears.

How about, &#039;Obummer&#039; because he wants to gouge my wife and I for higher taxes for being motivated to go to school and make a good living.

A buddy of mine calls him, &#039;Rogeh&#039; (like &#039;Roger&#039;) from the same character&#039;s name from the 70&#039;s show, What&#039;s Happenin.&#039;  He believes they look alike.  Though I don&#039;t see it.

Do you remember when he tried to relating to urban folks in N.C. and portrayed Red Foxx&#039;s &#039;Fred&#039; character from Sanford &amp; Son?  He departed from his prepared remarks (hey, &#039;Obamabot&#039; is another great nickname!)  He was feigning &#039;Fred&#039;s&#039; heart attack bit and said, &#039;I&#039;m coming Weezie!&#039;  Of course the woman&#039;s name is &#039;Elizabeth.&#039;  Weezie being the nickname of the character &#039;Louise&#039; in, The Jefferson&#039;s.

Departing from a prepared speech and he can&#039;t even ham it up correctly.  Quite an improv, Mr. President!

Then again, it&#039;s only a name, right?  Wrong.  It&#039;s the President.  Both former and current should be given the utmost respect.  Perhaps it&#039;s fun, &#039;daring&#039; to call a former CiC childish names, but it&#039;s small.  We live in the most opportunistic, forever improving country in the world.  Much of this is due to our leaders, present and past, making difficult decisions for which they know there is both positive and negative repercussions.

the 1st line of your comment exudes a disgusting aire of arrogance and self importance.

BTW, to further prove your &#039;superiority&#039; with your self proclaimed &#039;brain cells&#039; in the future, look up &#039;there&#039; and &#039;their.&#039; also &#039;then&#039; and &#039;than.&#039;  It&#039;s &#039;keyboards&#039;, &#039;cronies&#039;, &#039;different.&#039;

Lastly, save your stump speech for Republican actors who talk with such idiocy such as Alec Baldwin had.  He&#039;d said he&#039;d leave the U.S if Bush won the &#039;01 election.  Sigh.. he&#039;s still here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kgaretson, so you&#8217;re saying we should give Obama benefit of the doubt.  Yet, your &#8216;McStupid&#8217; nauseum is good decorum?</p>
<p>Perhaps I should play that &#8216;game&#8217; too.  It&#8217;s only fair, right?  Hmm, let me see.  How about, &#8216;Uhbama&#8217; for this is how he sounds when not reading the teleprompter.</p>
<p>How about &#8216;Bambi&#8217;, due to his big ears.</p>
<p>How about, &#8216;Obummer&#8217; because he wants to gouge my wife and I for higher taxes for being motivated to go to school and make a good living.</p>
<p>A buddy of mine calls him, &#8216;Rogeh&#8217; (like &#8216;Roger&#8217;) from the same character&#8217;s name from the 70&#8217;s show, What&#8217;s Happenin.&#8217;  He believes they look alike.  Though I don&#8217;t see it.</p>
<p>Do you remember when he tried to relating to urban folks in N.C. and portrayed Red Foxx&#8217;s &#8216;Fred&#8217; character from Sanford &amp; Son?  He departed from his prepared remarks (hey, &#8216;Obamabot&#8217; is another great nickname!)  He was feigning &#8216;Fred&#8217;s&#8217; heart attack bit and said, &#8216;I&#8217;m coming Weezie!&#8217;  Of course the woman&#8217;s name is &#8216;Elizabeth.&#8217;  Weezie being the nickname of the character &#8216;Louise&#8217; in, The Jefferson&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Departing from a prepared speech and he can&#8217;t even ham it up correctly.  Quite an improv, Mr. President!</p>
<p>Then again, it&#8217;s only a name, right?  Wrong.  It&#8217;s the President.  Both former and current should be given the utmost respect.  Perhaps it&#8217;s fun, &#8216;daring&#8217; to call a former CiC childish names, but it&#8217;s small.  We live in the most opportunistic, forever improving country in the world.  Much of this is due to our leaders, present and past, making difficult decisions for which they know there is both positive and negative repercussions.</p>
<p>the 1st line of your comment exudes a disgusting aire of arrogance and self importance.</p>
<p>BTW, to further prove your &#8217;superiority&#8217; with your self proclaimed &#8216;brain cells&#8217; in the future, look up &#8216;there&#8217; and &#8216;their.&#8217; also &#8216;then&#8217; and &#8216;than.&#8217;  It&#8217;s &#8216;keyboards&#8217;, &#8216;cronies&#8217;, &#8216;different.&#8217;</p>
<p>Lastly, save your stump speech for Republican actors who talk with such idiocy such as Alec Baldwin had.  He&#8217;d said he&#8217;d leave the U.S if Bush won the &#8216;01 election.  Sigh.. he&#8217;s still here!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 kgaretson  You&#039;re kidding, right?  How much time did the left give Bush?  When 9/11 happened 8 months after Bush took office, most of his undrsecretaries had yet to be confirmed.  The people were still screaming about the &quot;stolen election&quot;.

  As for Obama, his actions so far have been ludicrous: one bad appointment after another.  He dodged the issues of foreign affairs, leaving them to Bush, but had all kinds of things to say about the economy.  He&#039;s a canny politician, but that means he&#039;s all talk and no action; no integrity.  I will not give him a break.  I demand that he perform every single day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 kgaretson  You&#8217;re kidding, right?  How much time did the left give Bush?  When 9/11 happened 8 months after Bush took office, most of his undrsecretaries had yet to be confirmed.  The people were still screaming about the &#8220;stolen election&#8221;.</p>
<p>  As for Obama, his actions so far have been ludicrous: one bad appointment after another.  He dodged the issues of foreign affairs, leaving them to Bush, but had all kinds of things to say about the economy.  He&#8217;s a canny politician, but that means he&#8217;s all talk and no action; no integrity.  I will not give him a break.  I demand that he perform every single day.</p>
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