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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m truly sorry for your plight Joe.  Now explain to me exactly what Obama or anybody else in Government can do to change it.  Pay your mortgage, pay your bills perhaps.  Take somebody else&#039;s money and give to you, what are you looking for.  Our  Government can not make me hire a plumber.  If you made most of your money on new houses, the democrats caused the housing bubble by forcing banks to make bad loans.  Again I am sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m truly sorry for your plight Joe.  Now explain to me exactly what Obama or anybody else in Government can do to change it.  Pay your mortgage, pay your bills perhaps.  Take somebody else&#8217;s money and give to you, what are you looking for.  Our  Government can not make me hire a plumber.  If you made most of your money on new houses, the democrats caused the housing bubble by forcing banks to make bad loans.  Again I am sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: joe downs</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe downs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a real nj reg. master plumber, my plumbing business is down about80% first time ever that i&#039;m having a hard time paying my morgage and other bills, i&#039;m voting for Obama and who ever else I can get to vote for him, I&#039;M THE REAL JOE THE PLUMBER, 4 MORE YEARS OF ANOTHER BUSH ILL LOSE EVERYTHING</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a real nj reg. master plumber, my plumbing business is down about80% first time ever that i&#8217;m having a hard time paying my morgage and other bills, i&#8217;m voting for Obama and who ever else I can get to vote for him, I&#8217;M THE REAL JOE THE PLUMBER, 4 MORE YEARS OF ANOTHER BUSH ILL LOSE EVERYTHING</p>
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		<title>By: Peter the Sub Guy</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-joe-the-plumber-could-cost-obama-the-election/comment-page-2/#comment-138195</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter the Sub Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And remember, Change!  Change!  Change!

Hitler changed Germany.
Castro changed Cuba.
Lenin changed Russa.
Saddam changed Iraq.
Ayatollah Khomeini changed Iran.
Chavez changed Venezuela.

So remember that when you vote for CHANGE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And remember, Change!  Change!  Change!</p>
<p>Hitler changed Germany.<br />
Castro changed Cuba.<br />
Lenin changed Russa.<br />
Saddam changed Iraq.<br />
Ayatollah Khomeini changed Iran.<br />
Chavez changed Venezuela.</p>
<p>So remember that when you vote for CHANGE!</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-joe-the-plumber-could-cost-obama-the-election/comment-page-2/#comment-138156</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;Messiah&#039; is speaking, he is capturing your youth.  So get in line put your hand out, you are no longer are responsible for your position in life.  The Messiah will take care of you.  Stay the way you are, because they can not exist unless you believe that you are incapable of doing anything for yourself.  You are not to blame, it is every body else that is at fault for your condition.  They will take care of you, they will think for you, they will tell you what is true, and what is not.  All you have to do is exist.  Don&#039;t think or wonder just follow the rest of the sheep to the slaughter, after all the truth was out there you were just to lazy to look for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;Messiah&#8217; is speaking, he is capturing your youth.  So get in line put your hand out, you are no longer are responsible for your position in life.  The Messiah will take care of you.  Stay the way you are, because they can not exist unless you believe that you are incapable of doing anything for yourself.  You are not to blame, it is every body else that is at fault for your condition.  They will take care of you, they will think for you, they will tell you what is true, and what is not.  All you have to do is exist.  Don&#8217;t think or wonder just follow the rest of the sheep to the slaughter, after all the truth was out there you were just to lazy to look for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-joe-the-plumber-could-cost-obama-the-election/comment-page-2/#comment-138100</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it was McShame who blew this up......&quot;Joe&quot; is not a &quot;plumber&quot; He is a plumber&#039;s helper and if he did buy his boss&#039;s business with a partner, most small business files taxes as Individuals. The income he receives doubtfully would amount to anything above 250,000 so he would get tax benefits under Obama&#039;s plan and also the additional tax break for small business development.
Don&#039;t fall for the smears by mcshame and falin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it was McShame who blew this up&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;Joe&#8221; is not a &#8220;plumber&#8221; He is a plumber&#8217;s helper and if he did buy his boss&#8217;s business with a partner, most small business files taxes as Individuals. The income he receives doubtfully would amount to anything above 250,000 so he would get tax benefits under Obama&#8217;s plan and also the additional tax break for small business development.<br />
Don&#8217;t fall for the smears by mcshame and falin!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter the Sub Guy</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-joe-the-plumber-could-cost-obama-the-election/comment-page-2/#comment-137564</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter the Sub Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>68. Cindi wrote:
What a sad display of ignorance. I do not care about Joe the idiot. I care about 18 &amp; 19 year children marines giving their lives in Iraq...

Peter replies:
Okay, Cindu, what does that have anythingt o do with Joe the Plumber&#039;s treatment by the MSM and its likely effect on the upcoming election?  You want to rant about Iraq, find an Iraq story to post on.

Besides, most 18 and 19 year olds I know serving in the military (and I know qite a few) volunteered to do it, post-9/11, and are happy to be participating in the liberation of Iraq from Saddam&#039;s despodic rule and the protection of our nation from terrorism.

After all, with few exceptions, if they didn&#039;t want to do it, they wouldn&#039;t have volunteered, would they have, Cindi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>68. Cindi wrote:<br />
What a sad display of ignorance. I do not care about Joe the idiot. I care about 18 &amp; 19 year children marines giving their lives in Iraq&#8230;</p>
<p>Peter replies:<br />
Okay, Cindu, what does that have anythingt o do with Joe the Plumber&#8217;s treatment by the MSM and its likely effect on the upcoming election?  You want to rant about Iraq, find an Iraq story to post on.</p>
<p>Besides, most 18 and 19 year olds I know serving in the military (and I know qite a few) volunteered to do it, post-9/11, and are happy to be participating in the liberation of Iraq from Saddam&#8217;s despodic rule and the protection of our nation from terrorism.</p>
<p>After all, with few exceptions, if they didn&#8217;t want to do it, they wouldn&#8217;t have volunteered, would they have, Cindi?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter the Sub Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter the Sub Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>67. nick wrote:
I know plumbers and joe is not a plumber 
point to me his license, his appenticeship etc 
YOU CANT morons

Peter replies:
You know, for someone who is constantly calling everyone ELSE a moron...
Try looking in Ohio law.  Joe wasn&#039;t REQUIREd to have his own license as long as he was working for and under the supervision of his boss, who IS (or perhaps was, according to recent reports) a LICENSED PLUMBER.

And nick, I&#039;m STILL waiting for you to give us your real name, so we can start looking through your background, job record, parking tickets, overdue library books, grammer school detentions, etc.  After all, you were the one who stated on another post that Joe&#039;s life is an open book, so yours must be as well.  Come on nick, I&#039;m waiting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>67. nick wrote:<br />
I know plumbers and joe is not a plumber<br />
point to me his license, his appenticeship etc<br />
YOU CANT morons</p>
<p>Peter replies:<br />
You know, for someone who is constantly calling everyone ELSE a moron&#8230;<br />
Try looking in Ohio law.  Joe wasn&#8217;t REQUIREd to have his own license as long as he was working for and under the supervision of his boss, who IS (or perhaps was, according to recent reports) a LICENSED PLUMBER.</p>
<p>And nick, I&#8217;m STILL waiting for you to give us your real name, so we can start looking through your background, job record, parking tickets, overdue library books, grammer school detentions, etc.  After all, you were the one who stated on another post that Joe&#8217;s life is an open book, so yours must be as well.  Come on nick, I&#8217;m waiting!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter the Sub Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter the Sub Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60. jtron wrote:
Wow…? Really…? Facts mean nothing to you people?? I am not a democrat nor am I a republican.

Peter observes:
Has anyone else here noticed that when anyone posts this claim (&quot;I am neither a democrat nor a republican!&quot;) that the very next sentence is usually some snide remark about why we should all be voting for Obama for our own good?

I don&#039;t recall anyone saying they were neither Dem nor Repub and then telling us McCain is the only way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60. jtron wrote:<br />
Wow…? Really…? Facts mean nothing to you people?? I am not a democrat nor am I a republican.</p>
<p>Peter observes:<br />
Has anyone else here noticed that when anyone posts this claim (&#8221;I am neither a democrat nor a republican!&#8221;) that the very next sentence is usually some snide remark about why we should all be voting for Obama for our own good?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall anyone saying they were neither Dem nor Repub and then telling us McCain is the only way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter the Sub Guy</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-joe-the-plumber-could-cost-obama-the-election/comment-page-2/#comment-137546</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter the Sub Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>57. Patrick wrote:
Has anybody watched the entire discussion between Obama and Joe the unlicensed-wannabe-business-owner? The senator was open, sincere, accessible, and reasonable. He gave a sensible outline of how his tax plans would benefit Joe. Of course he was assuming that Joe was also being honest, which we now know was not the case.

Peter asks:
Hey Patrick, what exactly was Joe being dishonest about?  I&#039;ve heard the entire exchange and what I heard was a guy who currently works for a boss with the idea to someday buy the business he currently works for, become his own boss and hire new workers, something he doesn&#039;t believe he would be able to afford to do under Obama&#039;s tax plan.  Where is the dishonesty?  I for one think, for once, there was honesty on BOTH sides as Obama let slip his actual plan instead of hiding it under double-speak until January 20th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>57. Patrick wrote:<br />
Has anybody watched the entire discussion between Obama and Joe the unlicensed-wannabe-business-owner? The senator was open, sincere, accessible, and reasonable. He gave a sensible outline of how his tax plans would benefit Joe. Of course he was assuming that Joe was also being honest, which we now know was not the case.</p>
<p>Peter asks:<br />
Hey Patrick, what exactly was Joe being dishonest about?  I&#8217;ve heard the entire exchange and what I heard was a guy who currently works for a boss with the idea to someday buy the business he currently works for, become his own boss and hire new workers, something he doesn&#8217;t believe he would be able to afford to do under Obama&#8217;s tax plan.  Where is the dishonesty?  I for one think, for once, there was honesty on BOTH sides as Obama let slip his actual plan instead of hiding it under double-speak until January 20th.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;whiskey,&quot; 

GREAT SATIRE!  The &quot;girly man&quot; candidate cast as &quot;Alpha Male.&quot;

HILARIOUS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;whiskey,&#8221; </p>
<p>GREAT SATIRE!  The &#8220;girly man&#8221; candidate cast as &#8220;Alpha Male.&#8221;</p>
<p>HILARIOUS!!!</p>
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