Comments on: How the Media Is Still Screwing Up the Edwards Story http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:29:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: It’s All Coming Down to a Few Key States … | USA TERM LIMITS http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-2/#comment-118363 It’s All Coming Down to a Few Key States … | USA TERM LIMITS Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:08:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-118363 [...] email, told me they are voting for John McCain. The one who’s not, an erstwhile supporter of  John Edwards, is [...] [...] email, told me they are voting for John McCain. The one who’s not, an erstwhile supporter of  John Edwards, is [...]

]]> By: Pajamas Media » It’s All Coming Down to a Few Key States… http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-117440 Pajamas Media » It’s All Coming Down to a Few Key States… Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:49:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-117440 [...] told me they are voting for John McCain. The one who’s not, an erstwhile supporter of  John Edwards, is [...] [...] told me they are voting for John McCain. The one who’s not, an erstwhile supporter of  John Edwards, is [...]

]]> By: Pajamas Media » PJM Political 8/12/08: Escape From The Undernews! http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-90955 Pajamas Media » PJM Political 8/12/08: Escape From The Undernews! Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:25:45 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-90955 [...] guest, Pajamas CEO Roger L. Simon, as they explore the implications for old and new media of the John Edwards scandal. Is the MSM once again admitting that their job these days seems to be blocking the news, not [...] [...] guest, Pajamas CEO Roger L. Simon, as they explore the implications for old and new media of the John Edwards scandal. Is the MSM once again admitting that their job these days seems to be blocking the news, not [...]

]]> By: Marginalized Action Dinosaur » If you treat a Republican one way and a Democrat another and it isn’t liberal bias — then what is it? http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-90759 Marginalized Action Dinosaur » If you treat a Republican one way and a Democrat another and it isn’t liberal bias — then what is it? Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:43:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-90759 [...] - Stephen Green agrees - “If you treat a Republican one way and a Democrat another and it isn’t liberal [...] [...] – Stephen Green agrees – “If you treat a Republican one way and a Democrat another and it isn’t liberal [...]

]]> By: Kenny http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-90348 Kenny Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:35:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-90348 Javelin, How much influence do YOU think Fred Baron would have had over John Edwards had Edwards managed to become President? "Nice reputation you have there, Mr. President -- be a real shame if anything was to happen to it." There's a reason we badly want to find the skeletons in the closets of those who aspire to power before they actually have their fingers on the button. Nobody really gives a damn if I get blackmailed; what's the blackmailer gonna tell me to do? "I want a Fuddrucker's hamburger before Saturday, or I talk, by God!" But when a sleazy trial lawyer is the guy who knows where the President's love child is being kept, and he's the guy who's "taken care of" the situation and made it possible for you to be President -- "Mr. President, I think you should sign that bill." "Mr. President, I think this gentleman deserves a pardon." "Well, Fred, you know how much I respect your judgment..." Javelin,

How much influence do YOU think Fred Baron would have had over John Edwards had Edwards managed to become President? “Nice reputation you have there, Mr. President — be a real shame if anything was to happen to it.”

There’s a reason we badly want to find the skeletons in the closets of those who aspire to power before they actually have their fingers on the button. Nobody really gives a damn if I get blackmailed; what’s the blackmailer gonna tell me to do? “I want a Fuddrucker’s hamburger before Saturday, or I talk, by God!” But when a sleazy trial lawyer is the guy who knows where the President’s love child is being kept, and he’s the guy who’s “taken care of” the situation and made it possible for you to be President — “Mr. President, I think you should sign that bill.” “Mr. President, I think this gentleman deserves a pardon.” “Well, Fred, you know how much I respect your judgment…”

]]> By: Mike G http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-90342 Mike G Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:12:23 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-90342 "Mike G – Yes, one weekend columnist’s spelling error is quite akin to an entire industry willfully ignoring one of the year’s biggest political stories. Me, I just copped to my mistake. What says the LA Times?" Oh, don't be a whiner about it. I'm (obviously) not saying that, I'm saying Pajamas makes itself look slapdash (and a target for cheap shots) when it not only mistakes simple mistakes but reveals that there aren't spellcheckers and multiple eyes looking at something who would catch such things. That's giving the MSM a supposed advantage (no matter how untrue it may actually be in practice). Also, sniping at commenters who were helpful is poor sportsmanship. A little Olympian detachment has always served the MSM well. “Mike G – Yes, one weekend columnist’s spelling error is quite akin to an entire industry willfully ignoring one of the year’s biggest political stories. Me, I just copped to my mistake. What says the LA Times?”

Oh, don’t be a whiner about it. I’m (obviously) not saying that, I’m saying Pajamas makes itself look slapdash (and a target for cheap shots) when it not only mistakes simple mistakes but reveals that there aren’t spellcheckers and multiple eyes looking at something who would catch such things. That’s giving the MSM a supposed advantage (no matter how untrue it may actually be in practice).

Also, sniping at commenters who were helpful is poor sportsmanship. A little Olympian detachment has always served the MSM well.

]]> By: ProgMeister http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-90309 ProgMeister Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:55:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-90309 Get a life, Green ... you really think who John Edwards is knobbing is worth any ink, much less an ongoing investigation over the next 18 years into the kid's college trust fund? If you really, really do you should keep in mind that's there some really fun stories to write about Johnny Mc's slimy sexual history ... and did I mention JM *leaving* HIS wife because she, uh, kind of lost four inches of height and picked up 50 lbs after a horrendous auto accident?? Now THAT's real character. Give it up, it's all boring and there are REAL stories to write. Get a life, Green … you really think who John Edwards is knobbing is worth any ink, much less an ongoing investigation over the next 18 years into the kid’s college trust fund? If you really, really do you should keep in mind that’s there some really fun stories to write about Johnny Mc’s slimy sexual history … and did I mention JM *leaving* HIS wife because she, uh, kind of lost four inches of height and picked up 50 lbs after a horrendous auto accident?? Now THAT’s real character.

Give it up, it’s all boring and there are REAL stories to write.

]]> By: Javelin http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-90307 Javelin Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:51:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-90307 Wow, not investigating a sex scandal of a politician cheating on his wife. Of course, this is the most important issue in the world and the bad old MSM isn't doing its best to folow the lead of tabloids, bloggers and other scandal mongers. Wow, not investigating a sex scandal of a politician cheating on his wife. Of course, this is the most important issue in the world and the bad old MSM isn’t doing its best to folow the lead of tabloids, bloggers and other scandal mongers.

]]> By: A Little Person http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-90303 A Little Person Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:14:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-90303 For years Edwards has been working tirelessly for the poor, women, the disenfranchised, those who are sick with no health insurance, the outcasts in the ‘other America,’ all us little people. Who can blame him if he needs a little comfort, a nice mansion to sleep in, as well as another one for his girlfriend, very luxurious accomodations and vehicles, and a very expensive mistress arrangement? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` You are wicked and brilliant For years Edwards has been working tirelessly for the poor, women, the disenfranchised, those who are sick with no health insurance, the outcasts in the ‘other America,’ all us little people. Who can blame him if he needs a little comfort, a nice mansion to sleep in, as well as another one for his girlfriend, very luxurious accomodations and vehicles, and a very expensive mistress arrangement?

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You are wicked and brilliant

]]> By: ChrisPer http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/comment-page-1/#comment-90297 ChrisPer Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:56:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-the-media-is-still-screwing-up-the-edwards-story/#comment-90297 I can only approve the gloating chorus of MSM-bashing this story has led to, but I want to suggest that the real motive is usually more in line with the cock-up theory of history than any implicit left-wing-biased conspiracy. It's sad that the NYT is almost as bad as WorldNetDaily, but understanding the way the system works is important. Think about how people create media stories. Its a sausage machine, with 'angle' and 'framing' being the gift that (left or right) journalists use to grind out the repetitive approach to every story. If a story doesn't fit 'the frame' that 'everyone' is writing from, it might be original but IT DOESN'T RUN. Writers under deadline pressure MUST go with the dominant framing, usually the MSM centre-left party line, to get stories accepted that can run. But this appalling non-coverage happened basically because no-one had the balls to submit a story that went against the 'Edwards-plus-tragic-wife' frame that the media had painted up for him. If they had just submitted, editors would have run it some way. The economics of the media machine require it. I can only approve the gloating chorus of MSM-bashing this story has led to, but I want to suggest that the real motive is usually more in line with the cock-up theory of history than any implicit left-wing-biased conspiracy. It’s sad that the NYT is almost as bad as WorldNetDaily, but understanding the way the system works is important.

Think about how people create media stories. Its a sausage machine, with ‘angle’ and ‘framing’ being the gift that (left or right) journalists use to grind out the repetitive approach to every story. If a story doesn’t fit ‘the frame’ that ‘everyone’ is writing from, it might be original but IT DOESN’T RUN. Writers under deadline pressure MUST go with the dominant framing, usually the MSM centre-left party line, to get stories accepted that can run. But this appalling non-coverage happened basically because no-one had the balls to submit a story that went against the ‘Edwards-plus-tragic-wife’ frame that the media had painted up for him. If they had just submitted, editors would have run it some way. The economics of the media machine require it.

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