Comments on: Identity Politics Is Bad For America

By: Paul Johnson

Paul Johnson — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:03:12 +0000

“If primary voters don’t vote for Barack Obama then his campaign says they’re racist. If primary voters don’t vote for Hillary Clinton then her campaign cries that she’s being treated unfairly by the established patriarchy.”

Maybe if you are talking to a middle schooler, hence why they aren’t allowed to vote. Although arguably since public education is so poor many adults might chose to think like a middle schooler. This is one reason i support taking more from rich people and giving the money to poor people.

Also i totally missed how you connected the two issues surrounding Kerry and McCain in paragraph 11. Was this a connection made in the commercial?

By: Van Helsing

Van Helsing — Fri, 02 May 2008 03:42:31 +0000

It’s fitting that the balkanization liberals have been attempting to use to tear down America may first tear down the Democrat Party.

By: abu al-fin

abu al-fin — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:37:39 +0000

I am happy to report that identity politics will have absolutely no effect on our company’s “corrupt-politician-to-biofuels” conversion process. Corrupt politicians of every gender, ethnicity, religion, and sexual orientation can be processed equally well to create clean burning biodiesel for your automobiles!

Elect those politicians! Then utilise them in the best way possible–make them into renewable energy fuels! There will always be plenty more lined up to take their place.

Remember: At Oynklent Green, all corrupt politicians are equal! Energy is People.

By: Tropic of Saturn

Tropic of Saturn — Thu, 01 May 2008 12:49:01 +0000

Javelin-
We sure are becoming good friends on this website. To answer your question-yes I voted for George W. Bush in the 2004 election. In case your wondering about my past voting record I was under 18 so I have none. As a teenager I didnt care about politics in the least bit.

By: Javelin

Javelin — Thu, 01 May 2008 05:08:05 +0000

Hey Tropic of Saturn,
From your priceless post on Derbyshire’s article, can I ask did you vote for Bush because he was a ignorant white theocon like you? Identity politics cuts both ways, dude!

By: Misanthropicus

Misanthropicus — Thu, 01 May 2008 04:43:57 +0000

Javelin RE Misanthropicus RE Identity politics/telling someone what to do:
“[...] and holy than thou attitude of the theocons too? Is the reverse true, should someone stop being a vegetarian because you are offended by their healthier choices? Or is that some liberal myth too? You sound like you made up your mind long before you ever really thought about things.[...]”

Javelin,
1) your “theocons’/ holier-than thou” hypothesis should be expanded to all “theo” proselytizers and justifiers, be they Buddhist, Mosaic, Catholic, Muslim or whatever, because all religions address/respond to existential anxieties which are dwarfingly universal.
Yes, I find un-requested religious overtures unpleasant – yet here I have to mention that it is only the LAX chic Buddhists, Jehova’s Wits. & Scientologists that bother me. And I complement this with the observation that I simply find no signs of Catholic, Mosaic or Protestant “holier than thou” proselytizing around – for you to figure out this.
2) religious, “holier than thou” proselythizing adresses/responds very serious and, alas! unanswered existential questions and they are not generated by persons who HAVE THE WEAKNESS/NEED TO DISPLAY their appartenance to an “enlightened” group, trend or cause (or be counfounded with) – flaunting macrobiotic choices, adoring homosexual marriages, driving Priuses or flashing open-minded electoral options part and parcel of this.
3) a good exercise for you before pursuing further this “holier than thou” issue would be a critical comparison, side-by-side of Tolstoy’s “Resurrection” issues/ characters with the liberal/progressive coteries’ concerns you are probably familiar with.
’till then, remember: every one hundred miles you drive with your Prius kills a Chile copper miner, and every minute that Arbitron logs on you watching MTV finances the killing of three black inner city kids.

By: Christine

Christine — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:48:27 +0000

I am a woman who has looked forward to a woman as president. I also have looked forward to the first black president. But, I will not be voting on either one this time. Content of their character is foremost important to me and neither character is worthy of my vote.

I’ll wait, thank you.

By: Tropic of Saturn

Tropic of Saturn — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:29:34 +0000

I am glad Pam wrote this up. I think it is sad we are so concerned with diversity that First Black or the First Woman president take precendence over finding the president who is worthy of the Position. What is the point of having a first Woman President if she will be a horrible president?

By: Javelin

Javelin — Thu, 01 May 2008 01:38:03 +0000

Misanthropicus,
and holy than thou attitude of the theocons too? Is the reverse true, should someone stop being a vegetarian because you are offended by their healthier choices? Or is that some liberal myth too? You sound like you made up your mind long before you ever really thought about things.

By: Misanthropicus

Misanthropicus — Thu, 01 May 2008 00:14:00 +0000

“[...] The holier-than-thou attitude vegetarians often have about telling other people how to eat goes hand in hand with the holier-than-thou attitude liberals in general have regarding telling other people how to live their lives.[...]”

Very true, multifaceted (often holographic) this liberal enlightenment thing, and I’ll offer here my definition of the “open-mindedness” facet: Open-mindedness: (Unwarranted) exhibition of (inexistent) enlightenment”