Comments on: Immigration Report: The Gringo View

By: j king

j king — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 02:27:19 +0000

Maybe, since much of the GOP has abandoned the will their voters, they will go the way of the Whigs. Its about time for a new Conservative party that will represent the people and not just special interests and big business.

Vote Libertarian

Ron Paul ‘08

By: gfschue

gfschue — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:54:50 +0000

Sen. Kennedy warned us that failing to pass the Immigration Reform bill would create “two Americas.” That condition already exists: career politicians in Washington working for special interest groups vs. the average American on the street. He’s right.

This bill died because of a fundamental problem: how do you ask young American men and women to go to Iraq to bleed and die for that nation’s sovereignty when you refuse to protect ours here at home?

By: Hugh P. McCarthy

Hugh P. McCarthy — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 05:50:31 +0000

The immigration cloture vote provided a whole lot of insights to everyone who watched it on C-Span live. Among the lessons forcefully driven home to me were the following:
1) The allocation of time to debate for Dems/vs.Repubs was either 40/20 or 50/10. And when Dems exceeded their time limits they were given extensions.
2) And when the voting was concluded, the next speaker, Robert Byrd, was given 20 minutes to say a whole lot about nothing — at the rate of about 6 words per page.
3) This “most distinguished deliberative body” in the world, proved over and over again what a joke it really is — and yet the members don’t get it!
4) Not just Dems (Reid), but Reps (Specter) extolled the virtues of this deliberative body. Yet Reid, in his anecdotal claptrap about his friend (Tim)never established whether Tim was in danger of being deported, or Tim’s friend was. What place does this chit-chat belong in the world’s most deliberative body.
5) 700-page laws, with 300 page amendments are needed by no one. If there are laws already on the books, then enforce them or repeal them. Is that too difficult for the “Masters of the Universe” to comprehend?
6) It’s really beyond time when this nation has to come together. The London near-bombs have got to let us agree — either we act as a nation, threatened, or we continue to squabble, to tear ourselves into factions and “special interest groups) — and that includes posturing politicians…or we succumb.

By: usasteve

usasteve — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:04:37 +0000

This column is nuts.

The roll call, known as a cloture vote, was 46 for and 53 against. Twelve Republicans joined 33 Democrats and an independent in voting to invoke cloture, while 15 Democrats and an independent sided with 37 GOP members in opposing it.

This mean two-thirds of Dem supported it. Three-fourths of Republican opposed it.

All Dem Presidential candidates supported it. All GOP candidates except McCain opposed it.

A new CBS News poll shows only 13% of Americans thought the Senate should pass the bill. The final Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll before the vote found that just 22% of Americans supported the legislation.

So this is a GOP problem that the Dems supported this unpopular bill and (on average)the GOP did not?And that the Dem Presidential candidate supported it and the GOP candidates didn’t?

“Nut case”, indeed!

By: M-Duh

M-Duh — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:50:23 +0000

Americans on both sides beat this bill down – and if Republicans are smart they will try to capture that momentum, claim it as their own, and turn it into a border security bill that stops the invasion. Then Americans will listen to a party that has a coherent, logical immigration strategy.

If they arent going to get it done now, then make border security a top priority in the 2008 election and force candidates to go on record with what they would do first to solve this problem. Listening to the Dem candidate basically repeat what’s in this bill as it sits now might give Repubs a shot.

By: MarkD

MarkD — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:07:43 +0000

Bush isn’t running. I’m unaware of any Republican contender who supported this bill. Yes, McCain supported it, but he’s going nowhere.

I’m still wondering how a bill opposed three to one by the voters and pushed by the Democratic majority magically drives all Hispanic voters to the Democrats but has no effect on anybody else. I guess blacks are supposed to ignore the fact that the Dems wanted to import more poor people to compete for jobs and benefits. I guess everybody is supposed to ignore the fact that 46 of these arrogant Senators decided that their opinion/idea/political deal was reason enough to ignore the wishes of their constituents, unless their Senator happens to be Republican.

By: El_Cid

El_Cid — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:40:28 +0000

I suggest everyone keep hammering at the border issue. The president (I left it with small p deliberately)had the audacity to tell the Congress to get its act together and give the people what they want .Unbelievable!! Am I having a lucid dream or what?
He is the C.E.O of the executive branch of government and has a duty to execute the laws on the books.! Congress does not execute He does. Chertoff should have been at the border with binoculars instead of worrying about the price of a head of lettuce and skateboarding thru the Senate trying to convince other Senators everything is ok. This scenario is laughable even though I know its serious.

I cannot believe he and his transnational cabal of senators think we are still uninformed. The Jig is up. We know, we listen, we watch, we learn.

Its simple..start jailing the employers who knowingly hire illegals, and I garanteee that when you demagnetize the magnet..the particles will fall off (Michael Savage and common sense) they will go back home on their own..without us having to run after them like keystone cops. Employers are a lot more manageable and smaller group than 20 million illegals. if you don’t we as Americans will have to seek affirmative action protection for ourselves . Keep the heat on folks. Listen to your radios, stay on the internet at sites like this and Drudge..they are the last high ground we have left.

By: M. A. George

M. A. George — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:59:16 +0000

Oh, boy. Do they really think we will forget the insults and slanders so casually tossed out at us? They are counting on the proverbial short attention span of the American voter. Not this time, pal. Lott and Graham and their ilk have disgusted us so thoroughly that their infamy is burned into our provincial little Republican souls. Now, we know what they really think of those who have voted for them, supported them, and taken endless bull-cr*p for them. No more.

By: Carole

Carole — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:33:42 +0000

Demand that Mel Martinez step down as the face of the GOP…Demand money from any contributions etc. be returned.

By: Gilbert Brahms

Gilbert Brahms — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:06:04 +0000

2008 will be a hard year for any Republican congressional candidate who has displayed the kind of elitist hauteur of a Trent Lott or Lynsey Graham, but don’t think conservatives are going to risk placing the Hildabeast in the White House. Resentment will not run to such suicidal depths.