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‘Impeach Bush’ — Not Just for Bumper Stickers Anymore
It's far more likely that Rep. Dennis Kucinich will see another UFO than see his new impeachment effort succeed.
Proving that he’s not one to be outdone by the colorful rear end of some 1997 Volvo station wagon, Congressman (and first-ever Venutian-American to run for president) Dennis Kucinich has filed articles of impeachment against President George W. Bush. The Huffington Post is already drooling over this non-starter of a non-event, with Joseph A. Palermo calling it, “the most thorough and powerful case made to date.”
If that’s the case, then Dennis is going to have to try lots harder — certainly harder than he did in his failed 2007 bid to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney. Surely you remember that doomed effort, don’t you? Well, there he goes again.
Let’s take a look — a mercifully quick look — at a few of the greatest hits from Kucinich’s 35-count impeachment, and what others are saying about it. (Masochists can actually watch Kucinich present his bill to Congress on YouTube.)
On the most damning charge, the Belfast Telegraph reports that Kucinich
accused Bush of executing a “calculated and wide-ranging strategy” to deceive citizens and Congress into believing that Iraq posed an imminent threat to the United States.
Oh, really? Here are Bush’s own words, from his 2003 State of the Union address:
Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late.
Ben Fritz at the nonpartisan website Spinsanity wrote, months later, that on the imminent threat issue, “conservatives are largely correct and liberal critics and journalists are guilty of cheap shots or lazy reporting.” And now we have a six-term Congressman guilty, I guess, of writing a cheap and/or lazy article of impeachment. It’s almost enough to make you pine for the days of Bob Barr and Bill Clinton.
The Sun-Sentinel adds that Kucinich’s bill charges the President with the “Illegal use of torture during interrogation, the authorization of a warrantless wiretapping program on American citizens.”
Now, I’m against the use of torture, starting with the fact that as Americans, we’re supposed to be better than that. But when a total of three non-Geneva-protected prisoners, in a raging war zone, were threatened with fake drowning for a total of less than a minute, and valuable intelligence was obtained… well, that’s not exactly up there with Jimmy Carter’s abandonment of 52 American hostages to the likes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 1979.
And wiretapping? How illegal can an action be when the Supreme Court refused even to hear a lawsuit on it back in February? And remember, the wiretaps were only against international calls or emails between suspect foreigners and (potential fifth-column?) Americans. I’d like to see more Congressional and federal court oversight on those taps, but the Supremes don’t seem to think there’s a problem, and the Democratic Congress doesn’t care enough to pass a law one way or the other.
Dependably, Congressman Robert Wexler (D-Iran) has signed on as a co-sponsor, claiming that
President Bush deliberately created a massive propaganda campaign to sell the war in Iraq to the American people and the charges detailed in this impeachment resolution indicate an unprecedented abuse of executive power.
What Wexler wants you to forget is, anytime any President wants to get anything passed into law, he must wage a “propaganda campaign.” The President, after all, has nothing more than the bully pulpit to get Congress to do something he wants — whether it’s war in Iraq or socialized health care for kitties. So in 2003 the President asked for something, and Congress — by overwhelming bipartisan majorities — delivered. Now then, how does Wexler prefer people to think of Congress — as pushovers to a dumb Texan or as warmongers against innocent jihadis ?
But what about the current Democratic majority in Congress? Couldn’t they make Bush an election issue by holding hearings on Kucinich’s false charges all through the summer and fall? Not likely. The Politico’s John Bresnahan reports that even San Francisco’s Nancy Pelosi has stated flatly that impeachment is “off the table.”
And Dennis Kucinich is off his rocker for hoping otherwise.
Stephen Green writes, broadcasts, and enjoys the occasional lovely adult beverage at the home he shares with his wife and son in Monument, Colorado.
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1. Go ahead, impeach Bush; try him | The Anchoress:[...] I think he tried this once before, didn’t he? (Ah, I see that was about Cheney.) [...]
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:01 am 2. BackwardsBoy:Congressman Kucinich,
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:17 am 3. GayPatriot » Will Leftists Still be Trying to Impeach Bush & Cheney After they Leave Office?:As your boss, I’m telling you to stop wasting valuable time and effort and get back to work to pass energy legislation NOW! If you persist in these pastimes, you will find yourself out of a job very soon.
Sincerey,
John Q. Public
[...] UPDATE: It seems there is something in the air. Or maybe it’s Dennis Kucinich’s UFO’s sending out signals to society. Just as I begin my morning blog read, I discover Stephen Green’s Pajamas post, ‘Impeach Bush’ – Not Just for Bumper Stickers Anymore. [...]
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:20 am 4. Vodkapundit » Kucinich Never Shares His Pills:[...] Posted by Stephen Green on 11 Jun 2008 at 10:41 am Another VodkaPundit column for Pajamas Media, “Impeach Bush” — it’s not just for bumper stickers any more. [...]
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:41 am 5. Chad:This type of politics is just pretty darn funny. Watching things like this though out history shows that in the long run it doesn’t make a bit of difference. But it’s so darn frustrating in the short term to realize that so many of our fellow citizens are so… disgusting.
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:58 am 6. huxley:How could this possibly be a good idea right now even from the hard left perspective of the Democratic Party? Obama is their great half-white hope and he’s running on a platform of unity and civility–or at least that’s what he says. Impeaching Bush during the election comes across as bitter and distracting, and Bush has less than six months to go in office.
Jun 11, 2008 - 10:20 am 7. schnargley:I love Kucinich’s boldness to reveal the truth. I just hope he includes the Bush family conspiracy to kill off African-Americans with the secret creation and diffusion of the AIDS virus.
Or was that the Kentucky Fried Chicken deal thingy? Aw hell. Who cares? Just details anyway. Oliver Stone! Front and center! The cause needs you again!
Jun 11, 2008 - 10:33 am 8. AJ:DK is a loser. I don’t know how the good folks on Northern Ohio keep electing him. HE should be impeached. Bush has not committed ANY “crimes” that are impeachable. If Kucinich was around back in the day, he’d try to impeach FDR, Wilson, Lincoln, etc, right? Sure.
Jun 11, 2008 - 11:49 am 9. megapotamus:Kucinich is about as scurrilous a figure as exists in American politics. The free weekly in Cleveland did a long article on him as a Prez candidate reviewing his race baiting and influence peddling early career. Ugly stuff. He wasn’t always a peace&luv Lefty either. Go figure. Personally, I don’t count impeachment as a distraction or diversion or whatever. Every administration should have a serious impeachment effort in my estimate; of course this ain’t it. The Clintons set the modern precedent in this declaring impeachment an archaic practice unworthy of Congress’s time for airy Constitutional reasons.
Jun 11, 2008 - 12:44 pm 10. Tony:Whatever.
As a pretty okay guy said in a much more serious context, “Bring it on!”
I always thought that the “impeach Bush” jibberish was just some silly political posturing to pandy to those liberals who hate, well, just about everyone who doesn’t agree with their immature views.
Now that Bush is due to leave office I can’t believe someone is still banging on about it.
How embarrassing for him.
Jun 11, 2008 - 1:28 pm 11. Denton Dickson:Kuchinich is a Grade-A idiot. Obviously such a proposal would never succeed- he voted it down with the rest of the majority. Thanks for wasting our governments’ time with ludicrous proposals moron. Maybe you should focus more on your own job, which you shouldn’t have in the first place.
Jun 11, 2008 - 2:13 pm 12. Dr. Ted Baehr:If Kucinich wants to make himself at all useful, short of switching to being a Republican he might think about authoring a much-needed Constitutional Amendment banning this tiresome practise of “impeachment”.
Impeachment as a process has only ever been useful in forcing terrible “president” Bill Clinton out of office. Against a good, honest, dependable Christian President like George W. Bush, it is a Democrat’s politically-correct version of plain-old Treason.
The liberals and looney atheists of this country invent “crimes” proportedly committed by President Bush and VP Cheney. These span the spectrum from crazy to downright-false. Faked intelligence to go to war with Iraq? I think Ground Zero in New York City is all the intel or evidence a good red-blooded American needed to take the fight back to Saddam. Illegally firing district attorneys? I was not aware that the President needed to take advice from a Human Resources department at the White House!
The list goes on but I won’t rehash the lies here. We of the Republican Right own America now, Democrat-”controlled” Congress be damned. We will protect her and make America’s unique blend of Capitalism, Christianity, and Freedom, the staple diet of the rest of the world!!!
Jun 11, 2008 - 2:33 pm 13. BlueDog:Hell, he at least could include the rest of Capitol Hill in his accusations. They (dems included) were the douchebags that put the stamp of approval on the neo-con’s pre-emptive war in the first place.
Jun 11, 2008 - 2:39 pm 14. George Clarke:Liberals don’t seem to read much history. If they did and considered the possibility that democracy is more contagious than tyranny, judging by how Revolutionary France first caught the bug from us back in 1789 (and very few democracies have permanently fallen to tyranny since then, the obverse not being true at all). How then will a moron like Kucinich be seen in history, if even his fellow Americans who supported Bush are laughing at him now? Kucinich can’t possibly have weighed those considerations, or if he did, he just did not care. That way of thinking is inconceivable to me. If I had run for president and was a national name like Kucinich, even if part laughing stock, I would have some small consideration for my historical reputation, even if it was not likely to migrate out of the footnotes. Poor Dennis. As Bugs Bunny might have said. “What a maroon!”
Jun 11, 2008 - 2:44 pm 15. Larry:This proves the democrats are just as rotten as the republicans!! They keep protecting each other as they screw the American people! They should be forced to send their brats to Iraq until the war is over!!! Or we should make a law to make it legal to hunt politicans one week out of the year!! They are nothing but prostitutes who serve their pimps and don’t give a sh*t about the people who elected them!!!
Jun 11, 2008 - 2:51 pm 16. Doc99:It’s a pity that in 2006, the Republicans didn’t call the Dhimmicrats’ bluff on this and move for impeachment. We’d have this nonsense behind us. I keep telling my friends, if you think you’ve a case, please BRING IT. I’m calling on this and I’m ALL IN!
Jun 11, 2008 - 3:20 pm 17. paul:If only more people had the balls like Kucinich the impeachment would become a reality. I guess it’s OK with Americans to start an illegal war and be the cause of over 4000 troop death and over 20 thousand plus wounded, not to mention the civilian death. But it’s impeachable to have sex in the White House. If only Bush had balls to have had sex in the white house, he would already be impeached. What a sick society.
Jun 11, 2008 - 4:27 pm 18. Andrew:DK appears to have gone mad, however, there appears some validation in at least one issue:wiretapping. Although the initial us of wiretapping was restricted only to “international calls or emails between suspect foreigners”, it has slowly grown to encompass ordinary citizens of the United States. Recently, local government “tipster” centers have been appearing throughout the US (officially known as Fusion centers, funded by the federal government but created locally this way it is not an official centralized spying program but instead appears much like a decentralized effort), which essentially promote domestic spying on the U.S. population with or without any proper cause for such spying. Through these types of centers large databases of information about ordinary citizens have been collected, however, theses centers have been exempt from federal privacy laws, which would allow individuals to view their own files and make corrections if necessary. Although I believe firmly in the protection of the U.S. and agree with limited wiretapping of suspected individuals, I do feel a strong sense of concern with respect to the governments’ development of domestic spying on ordinary citizens.
Jun 11, 2008 - 4:29 pm 19. Lukie:Paul, if Kucinich had the “balls” he would have voted for his own bill. HE DIDN’T. He voted against his own bill. What a moron.
Maybe if Clinton wasn’t having non-sex in the White House 9/11 would not have happened. I mean 9/11 was planned on Clinton’s watch. He should have been paying more attention to the people he PUT IN POWER.
Jun 11, 2008 - 4:35 pm 20. Steve Skubinna:Right paul, the war is completely illegal, aside from some stupid little authorization voted by the Senate. I mean, if you completely disregard the Constitutional authority of the Senate and the President, it’s entirely illegal. Only a moron would argue that just because something is in accordance with the law, it’s legal – not if it makes lefties wet their pants and cry.
And you’d love Clinton’s impeachment to be “just about sex,” wouldn’t you? Lets you ignore that whole perjury thing.
I’ve never been a “love it or leave it” sort, but I have to ask why you stay in this nation you so despise? Can’t afford the one way bus far to Canada?
Jun 11, 2008 - 4:40 pm 21. JD Sherman:paul’s not very bright.
Jun 11, 2008 - 4:54 pm 22. Steve-o:Senate vote on authorization to use force against Iraq: 77 yes, 23 no.
United Nations Security Council Vote on Resolution 1441: 15 yes, 0 no.
Congressional vote attempts to stop funding Operation Iraqi Freedom: 4. Successful majority votes to stop funding: 0.
Liberal moonbat whining: priceless!
Jun 11, 2008 - 5:13 pm 23. R. Ford Mashburn:To borrow from Shakespeare, Henry V, the deaths of soldiers is not the fault of the leader, for they purpose not their deaths by their service; nor does he purpose their deaths by his orders. To me, it is a fallacious argument to lay the dead at the feet of the President.
The President sends troops into combat to defeat our enemies; those enemies have, in the past, killed our soldiers without provocation during times of peace, whether they were in a barracks in a friendly country or a warship in a friendly port.
Likewise, the previous President sent our soldiers into combat many times, but I did not hear much complaint about those soldiers deaths from the likes of paul or the political left.
That previous president launched cruise missiles into sovereign nations over the expulsion of weapons inspectors, or the intelligence, later proved erroneous, of Chemical weapons production, or simply the likelihood of OBL being at a particular camp inside Afghanistan, all without a declaration of war. Were those illegal war actions deserving impeachment? What then is the difference now? Simply the scale of effort.
I guess the Left would prefer we bomb our enemies from 50 thousand feet so that we never have to suffer losses; however, they would still cry over the innocent lives lost of non-combatant casualties. Nothing is ever good enough, it must be perfect. Perfect enough that those on the Left never suffer the pangs of conscience over inadvertent casualties.
Jun 11, 2008 - 5:28 pm 24. EJM:By leaving the impeachment process out of the picture, we are condoning the horrors of the Bush administrations. I knew it was a plot for oil when the first gulf war started. This is not rocket science, people. Bush/Cheney need to be impeached now before they do more damage and there is considerably more damage that can be done before next year. I guess some people will ignore the idea of integrity in government unless it hits them in their own personal lives. Just showed what our society has come to. It’s a shame.
Jun 11, 2008 - 7:00 pm 25. Aaron Converse:EJM is right…this isn’t rocket science. After all, science is about arriving at truth. His sort of Bush-hatred is a religion, and a singularly irrational one at that.
Jun 11, 2008 - 7:45 pm 26. Benson:This post and its comments constitute a concise and credible summary/evaluation of the case for Bush’s impeachment. Nice work, and useful.
However. I am stunned by the appearance of Bugliosi’s book. I enjoyed his Outrage, which left me with considerable respect for its author. Now this.
I respectfully request a thorough discussion (probably in a separate post on PJM) of this latest effort by the former prosecutor. It seems to me that his book strikes to the heart of the matter, and richly deserves analysis. Caution: Bugliosi is not a moron like DK!
Jun 11, 2008 - 7:48 pm 27. Zendago:Paul, you need to check into the nearest mental facility and take Brother Dennis with you.
Jun 11, 2008 - 7:48 pm 28. narciso:Benson, sadly, that aspect of Bugliosi, are facts not in evidence. He seems to had let
Jun 11, 2008 - 8:09 pm 29. EJM:his ‘outrage’ over the 2000 election, warp his sensibilities. He spent 1,000 plus pages unraveling the JFK conspiracy garbage, yet he seems unwilling to assign blame to Wahhabi mullahs and Iranian QUDS force operatives That advance from Soros’s Perseus Group, run by Jim Johnson, doesn’t seem to have hurt either.
To all of you folks who ridicule Mr. Kucinich and the impeachment issue, what will it take to open your eyes?
A mushroom cloud?
Jun 11, 2008 - 8:36 pm 30. simmons:I agree with paul and with EJM. Bush and Cheney are criminals and need to be impeached. Dennis Kucinich is a true patriot and a very brave man. Look again at the cnn.com article on the 35 articles of impeachment and see that that erroneous line about voting against his own motion is outright wrong. His motion was to refer to the Judiciary Committee and that is what happened. So, he is not the stupid moron that so many of these posters are saying. He will be smeared because of his speaking the truth, the truth people, about Bush. He lied this country into a war. Is that okay with you? Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and we attacked a sovereign nation. Is that okay with you ?
Jun 11, 2008 - 8:37 pm 31. nobozons:So Bush is a boneheaded mush mouth,
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:02 pm 32. John D:Obama is a boneheaded mush mouth,
Time for a change.
If Obama should be elected President, which I’ll admit, looks very likely at this time, are the Democrats and moonbats (redundant, I know)going to hold him to the same standards that they want to hold Bush too?
You know, I think it was Ken Layne that said “This is the Internet, we can fact check your ass” sometime in the distant past. We have watched as Obama has denied taking positions only to have the video pop up on Youtube.
We can fact check your ass and Obama’s.
It’s going to be an interesting four years. And, yes, I am aware of the Chinese curse.
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:36 pm 33. Mark A. Flacy:“He lied this country into a war.”
The word “lied” must mean something else to you than it does to me or the dictionary.
“Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11″
No sh*t. Who said that it did?
“…and we attacked a sovereign nation. Is that okay with you?”
A sovereign nation whose government did not fulfill the requirements of a cease-fire agreement signed to end Gulf War I. Yes, that’s OK with me.
Jun 11, 2008 - 9:38 pm 34. Benson:For Mark A. Flacy:
Simmons did not read the post. He thinks that means he gets to define the truth about who said what about whatever. You are right, but you are also talking to a wall.
Jun 11, 2008 - 10:52 pm 35. Michael Lonie:Kucinich proposes to impeach George W. Bush for defending the country in time of war. Yeah, riiiiight. Here is a clue for all you leftists so hung up on Bush Derangement Syndrome that you think this is a good idea: the President is obliged by his oath of office to defend and support the Constitution against all enemies, domestic and foreign. That is what Bush is doing. Of course if your favorite President was Jimmy Carter you probably approve of a President shirking that duty, as Carter did.
The Iraq Cmapaign is a key campaign in the larger war against the jihadist terrorists. Midwifing halfway decent, consensual government in the middle of the Arab world is part of the long term strategy to remove the real root cuases of terrorism, which lie in the dysfunctional political culture of the Arab and Persian region. It also allowed us to fight the jihadists on ground of our own choosing tactically, strategically, geographically, and ideologically. Usama and Zawahiri proclaimed Iraq the central front of their jihad. Now they are losing badly there.
Obama’s call for surrender and running away will hand a great victory to the jihadists, just when they were on the point of defeat. And that is exactly what Obama and his leftist pals want, the defeat and humiliation of the USA. Long ago they drank the poisonpus Kool-Aid of the reactionary left, that the USA is the fons et origo of evil in the world. This delusion is just the opposite of reality. Over the last century our enemies have been the worst tyrannies in history. Seeking defeat for the US, Obama and his leftist pals are the new Copperheads.
Jun 11, 2008 - 11:05 pm 36. Michael McNeil:Actually, I’m thrilled we got rid of Saddam, his noxious sons, and that whole loathsome regime — and a very large number of Iraqis are too.
Jun 11, 2008 - 11:52 pm 37. Nazish:What great remarks I read regarding this:
“Impeachment not sufficient, Bush. He should be punished for CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY!”
“Not a peep in the media. Nothing. I’m convinced now….as if I wasn’t before. It is very sad, very criminal & very undemocratic. Dennis is the last man left standing in America”
“Great job,Dennis. I thank you from the bottom of my heart . I still believe that 9/11 was also their job. They planned it, they staged it & then they lied about it & turned around & killed millions of innocent in Afghanistan & Iraq”
“This morning I was SHOCKED to see that not a single one of the major news sources in the USA even mentioned it. No problem, most news is passed to & from strangers. This country is waking up”
Well, I would just clarify one thing:
“To kill a person is to kill humanity; & to save a person’s life is to saveth humanity”
Now people would get to know truly about the U.S. media, their propaganda of showing the news only of Iran, Afghanistan, Palestine & Pakistan.
Now the U.S. media will not be believed! People will start looking for the truth themselves!!
“One who knows but does not act is like an archer without a string to his bow”
Jun 12, 2008 - 12:43 am 38. jacksecret:“Do not pay attention to the one who is speaking, but pay attention to what he is saying”
The two parties thing is an illusion. Kucinich has been appointed to take the focus off any real impeachment for real crimes, namely 911. Democrat, Republican…two puppets controlled by one hand – The CFR and Federal Reserve.
Jun 12, 2008 - 2:50 am 39. OmegaPaladin:Wow, this thread is getting crazy.
Bush trusted the CIA and foreign intelligence agencies when they stated Saddam was building up his WMD programs. We were wrong – apparently, Saddam liked to pretend he actually had WMD. That was not a lie, however – no one thought Saddam was so arrogant as to risk war over fake weapons. There were a whole group of reasons for war listed aside from WMD, as others have mentioned.
Also, the number of dead is irrelevant to whether we should impeach a president. Our toll is equivalent to a single battle in WWI or WWII, much less the civil war.
I know you dislike Bush to the point of vitriolic hatred – he is your personal Satan. That is not is sufficient reason for impeachment
Jun 12, 2008 - 3:35 am 40. Akatsukami:I think that Kucinich’s articles of impeachment ought to be debated on the floor of the House.
I think that the Republicans ought to concede that Articles 23-25 are true, notorious, and known to be such by all. I also think that the Republicans ought to point out that Bush’s actions condemned therein were done to enforce the PATRIOT Act — duly passed by the Congress — and to publicly name every Democrat Representative and Senator who voted for it.
I think that Nancy Pelosi would rather see unconditional surrender by al-Qa’ida and FARC than allow that to happen.
Jun 12, 2008 - 4:46 am 41. George Clarke:Wait a minute people. There is no credible evidence Saddam did not have WMD and we did find WMD after we liberated and improved his pest hole of a country. We never disproved the evidence attested to by two or maybe more of his generals that the WMD were moved out of Iraq during the Oct.-March lead up to the war. There are thousands like me who don’t accept the premise that WMD was the primary reason we enforced the UN Resolution Saddam was violating against him. Humanitarian reasons dictated as well that he go from the bottom of his rat hole to the end of a rope, a outcome of manifest justice we missed with Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro and all the other monopolists of power who so disgraced the last century. The WMD/lie argument never made much sense since
Jun 12, 2008 - 9:51 am 42. Mary in LA:a. Every Iraqi general we captured claimed they were told that their forces had WMD and they trained and equipped their army in the belief they had ‘em.
b. Every WMD scientist we captured in Iraq confirmed that Saddam had ordered all of them (a dozen or so trained scientists with speciallized equipment) to reconstitute his cherished WMD programs.
Shortly after Saddam’s WMD’s were supposedly spirited out of Iraq pre liberation, WMD’s from some source were used against the Black Christians in Sudan and Darfur. Prejudiced idiots like Kucinich and Paul could not care less about their fellow humans since they’re probably religious bigots prejudiced against Black Africans.
So can we stop treating those who claim that Bush lied about Saddam’s WMD’s (verified by all his generals and scientists) as people who are actually sane? There are liars out there lying about this subject, but Bush is not one of them.
“Dr. Ted Baehr” = moby. Scroll right on by…
Jun 12, 2008 - 4:47 pm 43. TJ:Not being able to sleep because of my 1 year old, I thought I’d look up this site. Wow, what an interesting lot. First, you have George Clarke blathering on about some pet theory of his about what really happened to the non-existent WMD’s (here’s a clue – they weren’t there. Your president lied to you. Get over it already.)
Then you have the Rambo-wanna-be’s like Michael Lonie (Loonie?) who see jihadist terrorists everywhere (Honey, watch out, I think I see Osama Bin Laden behind the outhouse! Go gets me my gun, woman!) and are prepared with their fighting words – “Bring it on”.
Of course, they don’t even realize that when their their sad case for a president uses those same words, he doesn’t mean “bring it on” to him. President Chickenhawk, together with VP Chickenhawk and ex-Secretary of Defense Chickenhawk mean “bring it on” to others so that as with Vietnam, they can sit home while other people fight and die for their ideology. I wonder if either of Bush’s drug addicted daughters would consider going to Iraq, perhaps with Cheney’s lesbian daughter (is that why Ellen Degeneres is getting married at the Crawford “Ranch”?) Now that would make for quite a spectacle!
I think that most Americans are either too stupid or too afraid to want to hear the truth about almost anything. About Bush and his intimate connections with Saudi Arabia and the Bin Laden family (can you say “Bandar Bush”?). About why Bush and Cheney refused to appear before the 9/11 commission alone (can you say “let’s coordinate our stories Dick!”) or without seeing the questions from the commission in advance, and REFUSING to testify under oath (”I didn’t not lie as I never promised to tell the truth!”).
Things may turn around one day but I think that America is in for a rude awakening when they realize that they are no longer at the top, and that they are not even second. They are scrapping it out in the middle of the pack, and falling fast.
I look forward to hearing from the “You hate America” crowd here. That’s about the few whines they have left to try and prevent someone from telling the honest-to-goodness truth.
Jun 13, 2008 - 1:21 am 44. George Clarke:TJ
Here’s more blather for you. God Bless and Keep Safe Barack Obama. He may be our next president, possibly the first “apostate Muslim” now a Christian to ever rule a western country, and to do so at the beginning, or end, or middle of a hot war with Muslim extremists. Here’s the question. Will the Extremist enemies of this country
a. Give President Obama slack because maybe he can be jawboned into giving them liberal trinkets, like Europeans used to do to buy peace with the Indiginous Peoples?
b. Believe they can send a weak, conflicted Apostate to Hell, and the country that gave him succor, since they perceive him weaker or more accomodating than his evil predecessor?
c. Seek to kill him for converting to Christianity after being born to a Muslim father who gave him the Arab name for “Blessed” (Barack)?
Bottom line. Will a liberal peace seeker like Obama do more to quell the Islamic War, or inadvertently and unintentionally exacerbate it? That’s the question. See me in four years and report back. I do not think you hate America, but I do not think the facts I read and reported can be easily dismissed with the claim I am blathering on about a pet theory. You have facts that do not support your theories. My facts at least support what I believe. But it is always a pleasure speaking to you about our differences.
Jun 13, 2008 - 10:45 am 45. lee:This is an LA Times opinion piece from a New Republic editor about How Bush never lied to Americans.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-kirchick16-2008jun16,0,1817942.story
Jun 16, 2008 - 11:09 pm 46. PatriotAct:Sentiment will not bring about the successful impeachment of bush; only the accusation of felony crime, crime so horrible so as to shock and awe America will suffice to bring about the impeachment of the President of The United States of America in a time of war.
Impeachment is the great American Shakespearean drama. This drama will be played out on T.V., if it’s good enough material. The media will kill it or it will live, they decide. Blogs alone won’t do it. The great coliseum is the T.V., not the halls of Congress. The masters are Rupert Murdochs, not the men we elect, bitter truths that empower and free all of us.
So let’s play ball. I got felony violations of the USA Patriot Act in my corner, what’ve you got Kucinich?
An impeachment that commands the attention of Americans and grabs the short hairs of Congress, (including Kucinich), is the only impeachment that will not be ignored. Americans understand fear and terror. Any person who is indicted under the felony provisions of the USA Patriot Act will be terrified. People get stupid when they are afraid, when they are terrified. Would you like to see bush and cheney terrified, trembling, scrambling, sweating, branded as un-American?
Kucinich is being ignored. I said Kucinich is being ignored.
Americans would be absolutely fascinated and marvelously entertained by an impeachment trial trial of bush and cheney using articles of impeachment based solely upon felony violations of the USA Patriot Act, destruction of evidence, (CIA tapes), false information on terrorism, (Saddam linked to Bin Laden and the entire tapestry of deception), hundreds of felony violations of the USA Patriot Act, in plain sight. And this would go to trial, nobody is going to ignore a laundry list of USA Patriot Act felony violations.
Imagine the posse of FOX television consultant contractors hired to pontificate on USA Patriot Act theory, imagine the ratings. Imagine the discovery powers a prosecutor would have under the USA Patriot Act. Imagine what a good American could do with the felony prosecutorial powers of the USA Patriot Act at their fingertips, imagine. bush imagined, and look what it got him.
Can you imagine? Can you act as a good patriot must by using the USA Patriot Act to prosecute bush and impeach the President of the United States of America?
The USA Patriot Act is your law and it is the only law that will terminate this un-American administration. bush and his gang are literally pressing the Adz into your trembling hands, daring you, teasing you, playing you.
Tens of millions of dollars have been spent by the ‘media’ at large in conjunction with government propaganda offices to sell the war and the USA Patriot Act to Americans. This law shines, radiates an energy that when cast upon the accused paints them instantly and forever as horribly and terribly un-American. This is a directed political weapon and it must be focused on those who have committed felony violations of the USA Patriot Act.
The USA Patriot Act is a new political weapon and the people must coop the strategy of Misprision of a Felony within the scope of the felony provisions of the USA Patriot Act. The USA Patriot Act is the most powerful political weapon ever created in the history of mankind. It is brilliant, horribly un-American and treasonous, insanely brilliant.
Good Americans can use the USA Patriot Act to protect themselves from the invasion of Iran that bush desires. bush wants to slaughter millions of human beings in Iran and steal the oil again. Do you want to stop bush?
So tell me, what did you bring to the game Kucinich, you gonna knock it out of the park, all the fans mouths agape, wonder in their glistening eyes? Kucinich is going to put America … to sleep.
- WAKE UP AMERICA ! -
You wanna watch a T.V. show about how bush was branded as un-American, a terrorist, and tried on felony violations of the USA Patriot Act, and then kicked out of office into the street an outcast from society, (sniff)? I want to make that movie and I want all of you to star in it.
John Edwards could have won the Presidency of the United States of America by calling for and leading prosecutorial efforts based upon felony violations of the USA Patriot Act, he would have been famous and loved. But John Edwards was to busy working on the 911 commission chasing those darn CIA tapes, I guess. John don’t know nuthin ’bout the Patriot Act, does he? We shouldn’t expect John Edwards to connect any dots, he’s just a civil law attorney. John’s just another hack, playing the game, filling his pockets with huge amounts of cash.
The articles of impeachment by Kucinich against President bush are old, tired news. For anyone who is truly interested in impeachment, we know all of this. Where’s the charisma, the WhizBang blow-your-mind, front page exclusive? Where does it shine? It’s a weak attempt that is being ignored, and that damages successive attempts. And here Kucinich is going to spout another 30 articles of impeachment, that will be ignored, and further damage any real powerful effort to impeach.
I mean, if your articles of impeachment fail to ROCK the house and senate, yer a freakin’ LUSER! If you throw the dice on impeachment and lose, you’ve slapped all Americans in the face. If you are going to play this game, you better bring the right equiptment, or everybody gets hurt. And planning to emit 30 more articles of impeachment when the first set are being ignored is like saying, I’m gonna rub dirt on your dirt you dirty … dirtbags.
Felony violation of the USA Patriot Act, that’s the beef baby.
Is Kucinich really taking a risk here? Is Kucinich a great Patriot risking his life against an evil empire?
What if bush and cheney were truly terrified of the accusations against them, and felt in their guts that they had been made, would be indicted soon, would be found guilty and would go to jail.
Do you think Kucinich would be safe?
It’s going to take supernova brilliance, shock and awe to impeach bush, nothing less. bush can only be impeached with terror, wrap your brain around that my friend.
It would have been a huge news story if Kucinich charged bush and cheney with felony violation of the USA Patriot Act; I mean that would be HUGE. bush and cheney would be absolutely terrified, stammering their responses through the limbags. Blogs would fume, tongues would lather, ivory towers would crash down and the dust would cover all of the media with a conspiratorial cloak stinking of un-Americanism.
Do you have confidence in Kucinich and these articles of impeachment?
When the roaches scurry, they leave tracks, and of course that’s all part of the hard-hitting prosecutorial strategy of using the USA Patriot Act to defend this nation from terrorism and those that aid and abet terrorism by disseminating false information on terrorism and by destroying evidence developed through investigations of terrorists. Both of these crimes are extremely serious, egregious felony violations of the USA Patriot Act.
New is good, new is better. We demand criminal accusations so astounding, so incredible as to be unbelievable and any person who stood against those indictments and impeachments would simply be, un-American. Make no mistake, you are either for impeachment, or you in felony violation of the USA Patriot Act. That is the only attitude that will win the impeachment of george bush and save millions of children, women and men in Iran from a horrible and gruesome, terrifying death from the invasion of their lands by United States private armies and your sons and daughters America. bush must be painted as un-American in order for impeachment to succeed, it’s the only way.
If Kucinich would have fortified his articles of impeachment against president bush by opening the door for the use of discovery tools included in the USA Patriot Act by the Judiciary committee, by calling for felony indictment using the incredibly powerful felony prosecutorial provisions in the USA Patriot Act Kucinich would have effectively tarred and feathered bush forever. bush’s lawyers could then only attack the USA Patriot Act itself in order to destroy the USA Patriot Act. Two birds with one stone.
Kucinich ! How many birdies ya’ got? Thirty-five birdies, all in their gilded cage?
America adores irony, the wild story, gotta love da’ juice baby. The vast majority has no interest in the Constitution or the law, unless it’s some hot babe on a police show pointing a gun at a dude and shooting him. Ratings talk.
Kucinich has no ratings.
If you are going to bring down a warring tyrant then you will have to throw him to some very real lions. The lions in the USA Patriot Act make Kucinich’s application of old, tired laws, (that are being ignored also), a real disappointment. Kucinich needs some help with his presentation. He puts everybody to sleep.
- WAKE UP AMERICA ! -
Do you really want to drool yourself to sleep over 4 hours of droning old law stuff that has failed so often already, or do you want to see bush accused of un-American and illegal activities, felony violations of the USA Patriot Act … or does everybody want to pretend the USA Patriot Act like, doesn’t exist? New, new and improved impeachment brought to you by the felony prosecutorial provisions of the USA Patriot Act. How long would it take them to talk if their cellmate was in a secret prison in Egypt?
Whatever … right?
Prosecuting by making use of the felony provisions within the USA Patriot Act will bring bush down like a chain saw clears brush. The lawyers will be forced to attack the USA Patriot Act law and its extensions, they will have to attack the theory of the USA Patriot Act and dismember and destroy the USA Patriot Act and associated legislation in order to save their hides.
And they would be branded as un-American for all time. Then they would hold up their executive orders signed by bush to shield him from the very laws he made to keep you in check, and then you would start to connect the dots. Then you would connect the dots.
It really is in plain sight.
Focus on real felonies, not emotional or bandwagon appeals and you will get your man. Felony violation of the USA Patriot Act is a huge, powerful accusation. Is this club so heavy in the hands that the ground itself gives way to the weight of our fears, pinning us?
The glittering generalities of crime, banging on pots and pans will not indict or impeach. Congress is complicit in all of this, and some of them must also be charged with felony violation of the USA Patriot Act.
Terrify them with the USA Patriot Act, please; they have terrified you with it all. Fight back with felony prosecution using the felony provisions of the USA Patriot Act and its extended legislations. Fight for your freedom and the lives and freedoms of hundreds of thousands of Iranian civilians who bush will murder with guns and bombs your labors and taxes pay for.
Jun 20, 2008 - 3:51 pm 47. deguello:The way to deal with the shrub is simple:give him political asylum in his favorite coutry mexico,where he can run a bordello in tijuana,using the experience he acquired after 4 years of pimping out the USA to vicente Fox.Let’s not take this cretin seriously any more.
Jun 21, 2008 - 10:57 am 48. Janus Daniels:Curious: why not impeach Bush, Cheney, & the lot of them?
Jun 24, 2008 - 4:52 amIt’s not like they had any successful policies.
(With the alleged exception of the no-call list.)