Comments on: In Today’s Iraq, the Times Are Constantly Changing http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:29:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: BobKrumm.com » NRWC http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-150163 BobKrumm.com » NRWC Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:43:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-150163 [...] booked to address the current situation in Iraq.  My remarks will be similar to what I wrote for Pajamas Media last month.  However, I’m sure that the subject of the election and the Republican [...] [...] booked to address the current situation in Iraq.  My remarks will be similar to what I wrote for Pajamas Media last month.  However, I’m sure that the subject of the election and the Republican [...]

]]> By: 'Blackwater' trainees fighting NATO - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-129846 'Blackwater' trainees fighting NATO - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:25:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-129846 [...] Pajamas Media » In Today’s Iraq, the Times Are Constantly Changing Whatever your views of the War in Iraq, if they are based on information more than six months old they are probably outdated. Much has changed just since March when Iraqi Army forces successfully attacked Shia extremists in Basra and the Sadr City section of Baghdad. I arrived in Baghdad while those operations were underway and having just returned home, would like to compare some old truths with the new reality in Iraq. Old Truth: Iraq is in the midst of a civil war Ethno-sectarian violence (ESV) [...] Pajamas Media » In Today’s Iraq, the Times Are Constantly Changing Whatever your views of the War in Iraq, if they are based on information more than six months old they are probably outdated. Much has changed just since March when Iraqi Army forces successfully attacked Shia extremists in Basra and the Sadr City section of Baghdad. I arrived in Baghdad while those operations were underway and having just returned home, would like to compare some old truths with the new reality in Iraq. Old Truth: Iraq is in the midst of a civil war Ethno-sectarian violence (ESV)

]]> By: Eric http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-126278 Eric Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:06:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-126278 Last call: New U.S. intelligence report warns 'victory' not certain in Iraq http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53605.html Last call:
New U.S. intelligence report warns ‘victory’ not certain in Iraq
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53605.html

]]> By: Britt http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-126103 Britt Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:46:09 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-126103 This is a great article, and it is a shame we don't hear more news coming from Iraq. It does seem like no one talks about it anymore. There is one site - iraqstatusreport.com that keeps tracks of articles like these which is pretty good on giving up to date information specifically on Iraq. This is a great article, and it is a shame we don’t hear more news coming from Iraq. It does seem like no one talks about it anymore. There is one site – iraqstatusreport.com that keeps tracks of articles like these which is pretty good on giving up to date information specifically on Iraq.

]]> By: Eric http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-125759 Eric Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:08:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-125759 Well there you go, "it's over", if Lesley Stahl says it, "we've won". The ISCI will now permit Maliki to hold free and fair elections throughout the country, and democracry will reign supreme. Is that really the best you can do Bob? When are you going to stop confusing "quiet" for "quietism". These bastards are laying low, and forcing Muqtada to do the same UNTIL WE LEAVE. Care to venture into Sadr City, Maysan or Basrah with a "I Love the Central Govt" tee shirt - the Sadrists would tear you APART. The place is a boiling cauldron, set on simmer. No amount of western media reporting or "sunnyside of the street" conjecturing is going to change that. Regrets. Well there you go, “it’s over”, if Lesley Stahl says it, “we’ve won”. The ISCI will now permit Maliki to hold free and fair elections throughout the country, and democracry will reign supreme.
Is that really the best you can do Bob?
When are you going to stop confusing “quiet” for “quietism”. These bastards are laying low, and forcing Muqtada to do the same UNTIL WE LEAVE.
Care to venture into Sadr City, Maysan or Basrah with a “I Love the Central Govt” tee shirt – the Sadrists would tear you APART.
The place is a boiling cauldron, set on simmer.
No amount of western media reporting or “sunnyside of the street” conjecturing is going to change that.
Regrets.

]]> By: BobKrumm.com » Lesley Stahl in Baghdad http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-125592 BobKrumm.com » Lesley Stahl in Baghdad Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:40:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-125592 [...] live.  The battle by American forces against Jaish al Mahdi in the southern quarter of Sadr City was really as effective as this report points out.  Even better was that when the Iraqis themselves moved into the [...] [...] live.  The battle by American forces against Jaish al Mahdi in the southern quarter of Sadr City was really as effective as this report points out.  Even better was that when the Iraqis themselves moved into the [...]

]]> By: Eric http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-125492 Eric Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:52:59 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-125492 Muqtada "the poor man's Iraqi nationalist." Yes, he's greasy. Yes, he personally ordered US service members killed. Yes, he's currently in the pay of Tehran. But thatz really not the point now, is it? At issue is whether or not we leave Iraq in the hands of Iranian puppets or not, capeche? Accomplishing that goal, at this late date will require working with a devil or two I'm afraid. Still, this ain't no Vietnam - we cannot afford idealism or the concept of American exceptionalism to rule the day, too much at stake here fellas. "First denial, then anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance." Muqtada “the poor man’s Iraqi nationalist.”
Yes, he’s greasy. Yes, he personally ordered US service members killed. Yes, he’s currently in the pay of Tehran.
But thatz really not the point now, is it?
At issue is whether or not we leave Iraq in the hands of Iranian puppets or not, capeche?
Accomplishing that goal, at this late date will require working with a devil or two I’m afraid.
Still, this ain’t no Vietnam – we cannot afford idealism or the concept of American exceptionalism to rule the day, too much at stake here fellas.
“First denial, then anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance.”

]]> By: Marc Malone http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-125004 Marc Malone Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:43:45 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-125004 It is becoming clear that Iraq is well on its way to becoming the great power of the Mideast, and the Iraqis are getting a sense of that, too. It's the Tree of Liberty thing. It is becoming clear that Iraq is well on its way to becoming the great power of the Mideast, and the Iraqis are getting a sense of that, too. It’s the Tree of Liberty thing.

]]> By: JSmith http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-124683 JSmith Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:30:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-124683 Great to see this kind of info reported. When I was in Iraq (18 months there), good news there was ignored by the US/world media and what was reported was (in every case I investigated in 4 provinces) not factual (regardless of the source) -- we routinely asked ourselves if there were TWO Iraqs going through a war. My sources in Iraq confirm the report given here and more -- Iraq is undoubtedly on the mend. Part of the problem is that it appears the mission of the press has changed: It used to be merely to report the news. Liked it in the those days. Nowadays, its role seems to be to bring down the President, using either facts or fiction manufactured to fit the story they want to tell. Great to see this kind of info reported. When I was in Iraq (18 months there), good news there was ignored by the US/world media and what was reported was (in every case I investigated in 4 provinces) not factual (regardless of the source) — we routinely asked ourselves if there were TWO Iraqs going through a war. My sources in Iraq confirm the report given here and more — Iraq is undoubtedly on the mend.

Part of the problem is that it appears the mission of the press has changed: It used to be merely to report the news. Liked it in the those days. Nowadays, its role seems to be to bring down the President, using either facts or fiction manufactured to fit the story they want to tell.

]]> By: Terry Gain http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/in-todays-iraq-the-times-are-constantly-changing/comment-page-1/#comment-124536 Terry Gain Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:37:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35715#comment-124536 Victory in Iraq is also the war's best kept secret. Al Qaeda was defeated - and not just at the hands of American forces but by Iraqis fighting alongside Americans. And the defeat was not just a military defeat. As a result of their tactics of killing innocent Iraqis in an attempt to drive the United States out of Iraq, al Qaeda's reputation among Muslims has been signficantly diminished. Victory is also that the stalinist dictator has been removed from office and the country is no longer harboring or training terrorists. The real intelligence failure is not understanding that Saddam would have renewed his WMD programs the moment sanctions ended and the world turned its back on him. Victory in Iraq is also the war’s best kept secret. Al Qaeda was defeated – and not just at the hands of American forces but by Iraqis fighting alongside Americans. And the defeat was not just a military defeat. As a result of their tactics of killing innocent Iraqis in an attempt to drive the United States out of Iraq, al Qaeda’s reputation among Muslims has been signficantly diminished.

Victory is also that the stalinist dictator has been removed from office and the country is no longer harboring or training terrorists.

The real intelligence failure is not understanding that Saddam would have renewed his WMD programs the moment sanctions ended and the world turned its back on him.

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