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		<title>By: deguello</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-mexico-really-dysfunctional/comment-page-2/#comment-125545</link>
		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Koblog, for a moment I thought you were describing living conditions in  New york City.Mexicans treat their dogs far better than american exploiters treat their illegal mexican(and even their Anglo)  workers.Finally,after a camarilla of marxoid democrats degenerate plutocrats,and spendthrift gringos,helped by a moron of a president, destroyed the U$ financial  system,The phrase Third World &quot;  will henceforth sound ironic when spoken by a gringo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Koblog, for a moment I thought you were describing living conditions in  New york City.Mexicans treat their dogs far better than american exploiters treat their illegal mexican(and even their Anglo)  workers.Finally,after a camarilla of marxoid democrats degenerate plutocrats,and spendthrift gringos,helped by a moron of a president, destroyed the U$ financial  system,The phrase Third World &#8221;  will henceforth sound ironic when spoken by a gringo.</p>
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		<title>By: koblog</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-mexico-really-dysfunctional/comment-page-2/#comment-123896</link>
		<dc:creator>koblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been to Mexico a few times. It is a pit of hell. 

I thought the worst place in the world was Pakistan, but it&#039;s actually Mexico -- ten miles across the border from San Diego.

Mexico can&#039;t even purify its water. Even in resorts like Cabo San Lucas. 

The cops are on the take because it&#039;s considered part of their salary. 

The roads are a joke: dirt paths plowed smooth once to show how much the government cares for the people, only to become, after the rains, deep impassible gullies.

Americans treat their dogs better than Mexicans treat their children.

And they treat their dogs...well, you don&#039;t want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been to Mexico a few times. It is a pit of hell. </p>
<p>I thought the worst place in the world was Pakistan, but it&#8217;s actually Mexico &#8212; ten miles across the border from San Diego.</p>
<p>Mexico can&#8217;t even purify its water. Even in resorts like Cabo San Lucas. </p>
<p>The cops are on the take because it&#8217;s considered part of their salary. </p>
<p>The roads are a joke: dirt paths plowed smooth once to show how much the government cares for the people, only to become, after the rains, deep impassible gullies.</p>
<p>Americans treat their dogs better than Mexicans treat their children.</p>
<p>And they treat their dogs&#8230;well, you don&#8217;t want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Snake Oil Baron</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-mexico-really-dysfunctional/comment-page-2/#comment-123875</link>
		<dc:creator>Snake Oil Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what happened? Not long ago Mexico was seeing lots of NAFTA related growth, avoiding a Hugo Chavez friendly government and making reforms. Where did the progress go. I know that oil prices and other economic problems have occurred but how does a nation go from having a promising future to being a broken society so quickly? Or is it a broken society with a promising future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what happened? Not long ago Mexico was seeing lots of NAFTA related growth, avoiding a Hugo Chavez friendly government and making reforms. Where did the progress go. I know that oil prices and other economic problems have occurred but how does a nation go from having a promising future to being a broken society so quickly? Or is it a broken society with a promising future?</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone else notice that the democratic campaign uses an awful, AWFUL lot of judgmental words?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone else notice that the democratic campaign uses an awful, AWFUL lot of judgmental words?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think taxes paid to a phony soc sec number still go in to the pot of money our politicians get to steal and/or redistribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think taxes paid to a phony soc sec number still go in to the pot of money our politicians get to steal and/or redistribute.</p>
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		<title>By: BMoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;A hard working, law abiding, assimilated Mexican population can only make a positive contribution to our culture!&lt;/B&gt;

100% with you there, Phil. Mexicans are family centered, Christian, and have a work ethic when it is not discouraged by cronyism and paternalism. 

Plus they have kids, and will make it unnecessary to be like Europe, where the native European population turns anti-life, and from abortion, &quot;alternate&quot; lifestyles, materialism, and selfism, misdirected ecological concerns, ETC. refuse to have kids, they have import massive workers from Islamic countries, and pretend that it is not destroying their entire foundations of liberal democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>A hard working, law abiding, assimilated Mexican population can only make a positive contribution to our culture!</b></p>
<p>100% with you there, Phil. Mexicans are family centered, Christian, and have a work ethic when it is not discouraged by cronyism and paternalism. </p>
<p>Plus they have kids, and will make it unnecessary to be like Europe, where the native European population turns anti-life, and from abortion, &#8220;alternate&#8221; lifestyles, materialism, and selfism, misdirected ecological concerns, ETC. refuse to have kids, they have import massive workers from Islamic countries, and pretend that it is not destroying their entire foundations of liberal democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: john from cinncinati</title>
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		<dc:creator>john from cinncinati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>retro is it like affecting a position one wasn&#039;t old enough to have seen or participated in, only a stylized version, as one you want to believe what it was really like. like Che shirts, rockabilly/greasers, and hippies? like reruns of i love Lucy, or conservatives. just fake it till you make it, all these retro movements are based in reality, and take on a life of their own. a reprise of sorts. the che shirts are the capitalist notion of a revolutionary. curious George in a beret, would be more like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>retro is it like affecting a position one wasn&#8217;t old enough to have seen or participated in, only a stylized version, as one you want to believe what it was really like. like Che shirts, rockabilly/greasers, and hippies? like reruns of i love Lucy, or conservatives. just fake it till you make it, all these retro movements are based in reality, and take on a life of their own. a reprise of sorts. the che shirts are the capitalist notion of a revolutionary. curious George in a beret, would be more like it.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed Wallis Oct 8, 2008 - 4:31 am:

&quot;“Grab your guns and start praying when your desperate neighbors will try to dispossess you.” - (posted under “Is Mexico Really Dysfunctional?”) “vivo” spreading the Socialist revolution one post at a time.&quot;

Looks like my post responding to you was deleted.
Very constitutional . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Wallis Oct 8, 2008 &#8211; 4:31 am:</p>
<p>&#8220;“Grab your guns and start praying when your desperate neighbors will try to dispossess you.” &#8211; (posted under “Is Mexico Really Dysfunctional?”) “vivo” spreading the Socialist revolution one post at a time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Looks like my post responding to you was deleted.<br />
Very constitutional . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Carter - I&#039;m not sure that illegals pay taxes, kinda by definition.

  Regardless, I&#039;d rather have people immigrate who want to become Americans, because they share our ideals.  I don&#039;t want people who are just looking for a job, or to partake of our lavish freebies.  I&#039;d also like to keep them from sending their $50B/yr out of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Carter &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure that illegals pay taxes, kinda by definition.</p>
<p>  Regardless, I&#8217;d rather have people immigrate who want to become Americans, because they share our ideals.  I don&#8217;t want people who are just looking for a job, or to partake of our lavish freebies.  I&#8217;d also like to keep them from sending their $50B/yr out of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexico, like many &quot;developing&quot; and &quot;third-world&quot; nations, puts on a good show.  I have visited there many times, and I love the place.  The parallels between Mexico and where I live are many, and close. 

Yes, it&#039;s all pretty impressive, and creates a sense of purpose, hope, and progress  -- walk down the street here, and you see many indications of &quot;development&quot;: well-dressed people, lots of shiny new cars, skyscrapers, people buying and selling, buildings going up.  Great, huh?

And some wear T-shirts with English on them.  That led me to conceive of the concept of the &quot;T-shirt fallacy.&quot;  Ask those trendy folks what those words mean, and you will almost never get anything even remotely like a correct translation.  Sometimes the shirts are emblazoned with vulgarisms and the most putrid profanity.  The T-shirt is a misleading facade, and a symbol of how easy it is to misunderstand what this place is.

Underneath, the values of the culture prevail, and will for centuries to come.  This nation, which never went through an Enlightenment, Reformation, Counter-Reformation or truly revolutionary revolution (war is one thing, a revolution another), is mired in ideas that stifle true development.  Foreign-educated locals here absorb almost nothing of the values of the nation in which they study; it&#039;s all shrugged off as alien and incomprehensible.  The result is a showy, unintentional hoax, not at all what it seems to observant but naive visitors.  

Take Singapore.  Please.  It&#039;s a near-dictatorship, devoid of the freedoms that Western Civilization considers fundamental.  Clean, modern, efficient and impressive, Singapore is the model for nations like N. Korea and Burma -- proof that one can have economic progress without Liberty.  Singapore is a horrible example because it encourages the dictators who believe they can improve their nations if only everybody will get in line and follow orders.  

You have to look beneath the surface and spend years dealing with the locals before you can grasp the fact that many nations present superficial evidence of &quot;progress&quot; even as they have self-imposed and very severe limitations on their development.  Corruption, the venality of the jurisprudential system, the anti-Liberty mindset of the population are not so easy to see while you travel around and take in the glitzy sights.  Nearly 20 years on, I&#039;m still learning, and still being surprised and disappointed by the huge gap between reality and favorable, impressive, admirable appearances. 

(Addendum on the T-shirt fallacy: on TV here, a starlet appeared wearing a bright black-on-yellow T-shirt that read, &quot;F**K the DJ.&quot;  No ** on that shirt!  Che Guevara T-shirts are common, and ask a local who that guy was, and you get a blank stare.  Quote from a movie, The Recruit: &quot;NOTHING is what it seems.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexico, like many &#8220;developing&#8221; and &#8220;third-world&#8221; nations, puts on a good show.  I have visited there many times, and I love the place.  The parallels between Mexico and where I live are many, and close. </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s all pretty impressive, and creates a sense of purpose, hope, and progress  &#8212; walk down the street here, and you see many indications of &#8220;development&#8221;: well-dressed people, lots of shiny new cars, skyscrapers, people buying and selling, buildings going up.  Great, huh?</p>
<p>And some wear T-shirts with English on them.  That led me to conceive of the concept of the &#8220;T-shirt fallacy.&#8221;  Ask those trendy folks what those words mean, and you will almost never get anything even remotely like a correct translation.  Sometimes the shirts are emblazoned with vulgarisms and the most putrid profanity.  The T-shirt is a misleading facade, and a symbol of how easy it is to misunderstand what this place is.</p>
<p>Underneath, the values of the culture prevail, and will for centuries to come.  This nation, which never went through an Enlightenment, Reformation, Counter-Reformation or truly revolutionary revolution (war is one thing, a revolution another), is mired in ideas that stifle true development.  Foreign-educated locals here absorb almost nothing of the values of the nation in which they study; it&#8217;s all shrugged off as alien and incomprehensible.  The result is a showy, unintentional hoax, not at all what it seems to observant but naive visitors.  </p>
<p>Take Singapore.  Please.  It&#8217;s a near-dictatorship, devoid of the freedoms that Western Civilization considers fundamental.  Clean, modern, efficient and impressive, Singapore is the model for nations like N. Korea and Burma &#8212; proof that one can have economic progress without Liberty.  Singapore is a horrible example because it encourages the dictators who believe they can improve their nations if only everybody will get in line and follow orders.  </p>
<p>You have to look beneath the surface and spend years dealing with the locals before you can grasp the fact that many nations present superficial evidence of &#8220;progress&#8221; even as they have self-imposed and very severe limitations on their development.  Corruption, the venality of the jurisprudential system, the anti-Liberty mindset of the population are not so easy to see while you travel around and take in the glitzy sights.  Nearly 20 years on, I&#8217;m still learning, and still being surprised and disappointed by the huge gap between reality and favorable, impressive, admirable appearances. </p>
<p>(Addendum on the T-shirt fallacy: on TV here, a starlet appeared wearing a bright black-on-yellow T-shirt that read, &#8220;F**K the DJ.&#8221;  No ** on that shirt!  Che Guevara T-shirts are common, and ask a local who that guy was, and you get a blank stare.  Quote from a movie, The Recruit: &#8220;NOTHING is what it seems.&#8221;)</p>
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