Comments on: Is the War in Gaza Immoral? http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:05:23 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: FaySet http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-191016 FaySet Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:58:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-191016 After this so-called war (the war is between two forces), the idea of Peace for Land has completely ceased to exist. By this savage act Israel has arousing great anger in the Arab and Muslim world: hundreds of millions of Arabs from Mauritania to Iraq, more than a billion Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia see the pictures and are horrified. This has a strong impact on the war. Then Israel makes impossible its peaceful integration in the region, because by its act it wants dominance, not peaceful coexistence. There are no objectives of this criminal act because how do you explain its results? All of Martyrs are civil and 50 per cent of whom are children. In the old days, Jewish people had called the killers of prophets and now they are the killers of children. After this so-called war (the war is between two forces), the idea of Peace for Land has completely ceased to exist. By this savage act Israel has arousing great anger in the Arab and Muslim world: hundreds of millions of Arabs from Mauritania to Iraq, more than a billion Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia see the pictures and are horrified. This has a strong impact on the war. Then Israel makes impossible its peaceful integration in the region, because by its act it wants dominance, not peaceful coexistence.
There are no objectives of this criminal act because how do you explain its results? All of Martyrs are civil and 50 per cent of whom are children. In the old days, Jewish people had called the killers of prophets and now they are the killers of children.

]]> By: georgiebhoy http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-187345 georgiebhoy Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:24:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-187345 Hong Kong would not have survived if China had blockaded the territory so yes not a good comparison. The deliberate and systematic delay of trucks meant that perishable produce was worthless when finally allowed out of Gaza. Guess what happened to those suppliers? The deliberate destruction of the power station during the last conflict meant relying on Israel for power which could be cut off at a whim. Those that criticise the Palestinians for not building a vibrant economy should look at the reality of the situation and imagine the difficulties. Hong Kong would not have survived if China had blockaded the territory so yes not a good comparison. The deliberate and systematic delay of trucks meant that perishable produce was worthless when finally allowed out of Gaza. Guess what happened to those suppliers? The deliberate destruction of the power station during the last conflict meant relying on Israel for power which could be cut off at a whim. Those that criticise the Palestinians for not building a vibrant economy should look at the reality of the situation and imagine the difficulties.

]]> By: furious_a http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-186683 furious_a Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:23:10 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-186683 DLAW: Please, Hong Kong is populated by a civilized, industrious people (their only natural resource, really, not unlike Israel). They survived a pretty bloody Japanese occupation and emerged one of the world's vibrant cities. Gaza may be populated by some wonderful people, but their leaders are savages intent on leading their people back to the Stone Age, judging from the rubble piling up in Gaza city. There's no comparison to Hong Kong. But, hey, sticking to the region... ...the Arab states laid seige to Israel in 1947, not raising it (well, typical of Arab Armies the Israelis raised it for them) until after the Yom Kippur War. Israel turned out like Israel. Try again. DLAW:

Please, Hong Kong is populated by a civilized, industrious people (their only natural resource, really, not unlike Israel). They survived a pretty bloody Japanese occupation and emerged one of the world’s vibrant cities.

Gaza may be populated by some wonderful people, but their leaders are savages intent on leading their people back to the Stone Age, judging from the rubble piling up in Gaza city. There’s no comparison to Hong Kong.

But, hey, sticking to the region…

…the Arab states laid seige to Israel in 1947, not raising it (well, typical of Arab Armies the Israelis raised it for them) until after the Yom Kippur War. Israel turned out like Israel.

Try again.

]]> By: furious_a http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-186675 furious_a Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:10:11 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-186675 Thinking about what Hamas has done for the people of Gaza reminds me of the following: Q: Why are there no Arab characters on <i>Star Trek</i>? A: Because it's set in the future. Hamas fires its rockets from among civilians, then hides among them to ensure civilian casualties when retaliation comes, then parades the bodies like the bloody shirt. They're beyond cowards, they're death cult zombies who murder their wives and children before taking their own useless lives. All for the joys of a pornographic afterlife ruled by a bloodthirsty god. The innnocent blood over which such as cedardford and DLAW lament is on Hamas' hands -- this is the way they have chosen. <i>Peace will come when the Arabs will <b>love their children more than they hate us</b>....When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but <b>it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons</b>.</i> --Golda Meir Thinking about what Hamas has done for the people of Gaza reminds me of the following:

Q: Why are there no Arab characters on Star Trek?
A: Because it’s set in the future.

Hamas fires its rockets from among civilians, then hides among them to ensure civilian casualties when retaliation comes, then parades the bodies like the bloody shirt. They’re beyond cowards, they’re death cult zombies who murder their wives and children before taking their own useless lives. All for the joys of a pornographic afterlife ruled by a bloodthirsty god. The innnocent blood over which such as cedardford and DLAW lament is on Hamas’ hands — this is the way they have chosen.

Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us….When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.
–Golda Meir

]]> By: Truthwillprevail http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-186428 Truthwillprevail Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:30:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-186428 With the exception of the few - never read so much rubbish in my life as the above. With the exception of the few – never read so much rubbish in my life as the above.

]]> By: Bilgeman http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-186236 Bilgeman Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:15:53 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-186236 #94 DLAW: "I was referring to the West Bank land deal." Sure you were. The thread is about Gaza, the IDF is bombing Hamas in Gaza, and out of the blue, you decide to start yakking about the West Bank? Suuuure. "Please remain civil." My civility will remain in direct proportion to your honesty. Seriously, chappie, I don't know what kind of drooling dirt-merchants you're used to talking to,(liberal arts majors?), but this ain't MY first rodeo, see? "The Palis are genetically the same as the Shepardic Jews" Which means....what? Germans are genetically the same as Frenchmen. That didn't stop Deutschland from launching two wars against France in the 20th century, or the French, (ahem), Empire from starting a war against Prussia in 1870. Is that "The Force" speaking to me through your keyboard again? Or are we back on your Hutu/Tutsi Rwanda genocide schtick again? #94 DLAW:
“I was referring to the West Bank land deal.”

Sure you were. The thread is about Gaza, the IDF is bombing Hamas in Gaza, and out of the blue, you decide to start yakking about the West Bank?
Suuuure.

“Please remain civil.”
My civility will remain in direct proportion to your honesty.
Seriously, chappie, I don’t know what kind of drooling dirt-merchants you’re used to talking to,(liberal arts majors?), but this ain’t MY first rodeo, see?

“The Palis are genetically the same as the Shepardic Jews”
Which means….what?
Germans are genetically the same as Frenchmen. That didn’t stop Deutschland from launching two wars against France in the 20th century, or the French, (ahem), Empire from starting a war against Prussia in 1870.

Is that “The Force” speaking to me through your keyboard again?
Or are we back on your Hutu/Tutsi Rwanda genocide schtick again?

]]> By: DLAW http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-185695 DLAW Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:56:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-185695 Bilgeman: Please remain civil. I was referring to the West Bank land deal. If the Chinese had put a siege around Hong Kong it would have been another Gaza. The Palis are genetically the same as the Shepardic Jews Bilgeman:

Please remain civil.

I was referring to the West Bank land deal.

If the Chinese had put a siege around Hong Kong it would have been another Gaza.

The Palis are genetically the same as the Shepardic Jews

]]> By: Bilgeman http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-185521 Bilgeman Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:51:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-185521 #90 DLAW: "But the trade offerings were flawed" Boo-Effin'-hoo! Y'know, as I recall it, no-one asked Hamas' opinion about a damned thing when the deal was being negotiated. And while Fatah was in power, shooting no rockets at Israel TMK, they had a remarkably quiet time in Gaza. Are there any Palis being bombed by the IDF over in the West Bank, where Fatah rules? No. "Small pieces of disconnected land do not a country make." Tell me something, ace. Do you have your eyes open when you type your twaddle, or do you, like, use "The Force"? Gaza? Could be Monte Carlo. Could be Hong Kong. Could be San Marino. Heck...they could be akin to Bahrain, and be the "Atlantic City" for Egyptians and Jordanians like Bahrain is the "Las Vegas" for the Saudis. (Places they go to do things that they wouldn't or couldn't do at home). Instead they want to be Haiti, (which is unfair to Haiti...no Haitian in his right mind would move to Gaza.) #90 DLAW:

“But the trade offerings were flawed”

Boo-Effin’-hoo! Y’know, as I recall it, no-one asked Hamas’ opinion about a damned thing when the deal was being negotiated. And while Fatah was in power, shooting no rockets at Israel TMK, they had a remarkably quiet time in Gaza.

Are there any Palis being bombed by the IDF over in the West Bank, where Fatah rules?

No.

“Small pieces of disconnected land do not a country make.”

Tell me something, ace. Do you have your eyes open when you type your twaddle, or do you, like, use “The Force”?

Gaza? Could be Monte Carlo. Could be Hong Kong. Could be San Marino.
Heck…they could be akin to Bahrain, and be the “Atlantic City” for Egyptians and Jordanians like Bahrain is the “Las Vegas” for the Saudis.
(Places they go to do things that they wouldn’t or couldn’t do at home).

Instead they want to be Haiti, (which is unfair to Haiti…no Haitian in his right mind would move to Gaza.)

]]> By: DLAW http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-185484 DLAW Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:55:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-185484 #90 Bilgeman: "Fact: Israel traded Land for Peace." But the trade offerings were flawed Small pieces of disconnected land do not a country make. #90 Bilgeman:
“Fact: Israel traded Land for Peace.”

But the trade offerings were flawed
Small pieces of disconnected land do not a country make.

]]> By: peacebunny http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-the-war-on-gaza-immoral/comment-page-2/#comment-185476 peacebunny Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:34:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43882#comment-185476 They were not hiding in the UN compound hit by phosphorous today. They were not in hiding in the school hit last week or the UN trucks. The numbers of civilian casualties may well be over-estimated or it may be under-estimated, without independent verification who can tell. How can 'they' keep civilians from harm if journalists are not allowed into Gaza and what give Israel the right to prevent entry anyway? Bet you get ignored 86 Bruce. Posters will continue to say 8 years of unbroken attacks by Hamas or some such nonsense. A working ceasefire despite the sanctions that should have been removed? Offers of a 10 year ceasefire? That almost recognition! Peace? Intolerable! Before anyone notices, bomb them and kill a few, that will do the trick and do it quick, we have election coming up. They were not hiding in the UN compound hit by phosphorous today. They were not in hiding in the school hit last week or the UN trucks.
The numbers of civilian casualties may well be over-estimated or it may be under-estimated, without independent verification who can tell. How can ‘they’ keep civilians from harm if journalists are not allowed into Gaza and what give Israel the right to prevent entry anyway?

Bet you get ignored 86 Bruce. Posters will continue to say 8 years of unbroken attacks by Hamas or some such nonsense.
A working ceasefire despite the sanctions that should have been removed? Offers of a 10 year ceasefire? That almost recognition! Peace? Intolerable! Before anyone notices, bomb them and kill a few, that will do the trick and do it quick, we have election coming up.

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