Could Ron Paul Lose His Congressional Seat?
Despite millions of dollars and devoted online support, Ron Paul's idiosyncratic campaign for the Republican presidential candidacy never caught fire. Now, polls show Dr. Paul falling behind relatively unknown challenger Chris Peden in his 14th Texas District endangering his congressional seat in the Texas primary. Roger L. Simon interviewed challenger Peden exclusively for Pajamas Media. (podcast and transcript also available)
Some may call it poetic justice, others may call it unfair, but Ron Paul is in the fight of his political life, but it’s not for the presidency. It’s to stay in Congress from his own district.
While pursuing his thus far quixotic quest for the presidency, Congressman Paul has fallen behind by over ten points in the polls (43-32) in the fight for the Republican nomination in the Texas 14th to challenger Chris Peden, according to internal polls from both campaigns, which Pajamas Media was told were quite similar. Peden is a 43-year old CPA and city councilman from Friendswood, Texas. The primary takes place on March 4.
With reports for January 2008 not yet out, Congressman Paul has spent (according to OpenSecrets.org) $20,262,084 on his presidential campaign – well over a million dollars per delegate (he has 14 to John McCain’s 903). Paul still has nearly eight million in his presidential war chest, possibly more when the new report comes out on Feb. 20, but cannot use any of it in his contest against Peden unless the OBGYN-politician drops out of the presidential race.
In an exclusive interview with Pajamas Media, Chris Peden said Paul is unlikely to forego his long shot pursuit of the presidency because to do so would mean he would not be able to make a coveted speech before the Republican Convention this September in Minneapolis-St. Paul.
But Paul would be well advised to reconsider. His over ten-year incumbency in the 14th District – which spans ten counties of South Texas with 675 miles of coastline – is in jeopardy for several reasons, not the least of which, Peden told PJM, is the reconfiguration of the 14th itself. Since 2004, it not only includes Galveston but suburban Houston as well, coming within six miles of NASA headquarters with many of the space agency’s employees now within the district. Paul is known for opposing funding for NASA, calling it unconstitutional.
Paul’s supporters themselves seem to be worried. They have switched fund-raising efforts on their website The Daily Paul in recent days from the presidency to his congressional race.
Meanwhile, frontrunner Peden plans to expose many other of Dr. Paul’s positions to his constituents, which the challenger says have received little coverage by mainstream media. This, of course, could include the as yet unsolved mystery of the racially controversial newsletters authored under Paul’s name during the nineties. Paul claims to have forgotten who wrote them.
But number one among the issues, Peden said in his interview, is this: “I’m not running for Commander-In-Chief, and so once the decision was made to put troops in Iraq, and that decision, by the way, was made by Congress, then I would never vote to not send them body armor and the equipment they needed to be successful. That is the one area that Ron Paul and I are vastly different.”
For the other areas, listen to the full Peden podcast interview:
Roger Simon interviews Chris Peden
You can also read the transcript here. (transcription by eScribers)
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1. Michael Cathcart:Peden is being supported by the same neocons who tried to stop Paul back in 96 when Greg Laughlin switched from Dem to Republican to face off against Paul. They will still be unable to do so.
Feb 19, 2008 - 1:00 am 2. ALex:Are you, Roger L. Simon, paying attention? Or do you live paycheck-to-paycheck?
Idiosyncratic, quixotic, long shot, etc.
How inventive! Sending the MSM [a small contribution?]
Can you say, the _1st_ Depression happened in the 1930’s?
Don’t you realize it doesn’t matter what happens, even if a ‘DC neocon’ unseat Dr Paul?
Feb 19, 2008 - 1:17 am 3. David:I’ve never seen a breakdown of this “internal polling”, which only Peden’s side has claimed is true.
I also find it laughable that a popular 10 term incumbent is receiving 32% against an opponent with no name recognition.
In 2004, Ron Paul had no competition. In 2006, Paul won 80% in the primary, and 60% in the general election in this “newly configured district”.
Feb 19, 2008 - 2:23 am 4. Dan:“While pursuing his thus far quixotic quest for the presidency, Congressman Paul has fallen behind by over ten points in the polls (43-32) in the fight for the Republican nomination in the Texas 14th to challenger Chris Peden, according to internal polls from both campaigns, which Pajamas Media was told were quite similar.”
Pajamas media still lives in it’s own little fantasy world. This thinly-disguised cheerleading will not work.
1. The 43-32 thing is nowhere in the media, but has appeared on a couple of blogs, the same ones that say Paul was dropping his presidential big before March 4 (still not happening).
2. The newsletters where talked about a million times over in 1996, and they didn’t work. Paul’s 1996 opponent, Lefty Morris, ran television ads about those newsletters. They didn’t work. They’re not going to work now.
Feb 19, 2008 - 2:40 am 5. Linda:I’m concerned, Mr. Simon, that a good bit of your information is not correct.
PajamasMedia “Sending MSM down the River” ???
Hmmm, looks like you’re chasing MainStream Media.
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:45 am 6. Not that stupid:Ron Paul has raised over $800,000 as of today for the March 4th election, of which NOT a penny is from his presidential campaign fund. Chris Peden has had to loan himself nearly $150,000 (that’s his own money) of the nearly $220,000 his campaign has.
Feb 19, 2008 - 5:20 am 7. TFS:Peden is a joke. The majority of Peden’s funds are his own donations! So far, all that I have seen is him attack Dr. Paul.
Peden has absolutely nothing to contribute other than bashing others. It’s like he can’t think for himself, he is not experienced enough.
Feb 19, 2008 - 6:40 am 8. J. Benson:gloat \ˈglōt\ To observe or think about something with triumphant and often malicious satisfaction, gratification, or delight .
Neoconservatives are gloating. If they win against Paul, they will see it as a repudiation of Paul’s message, i.e, a license to send other peoples sons and daughters to die wars for Israel’s interests.
Feb 19, 2008 - 6:54 am 9. scott:Peden is a liar and a backstabber. His own campaign website shows the lies he’s telling and it’s all about attacking Ron Paul. I hope the 14th district voters are paying attention a lot better than the rest of the country. They have the easiest choice in America when it comes to voting for a Congressional representative
Feb 19, 2008 - 7:27 am 10. USAF Vet Dan:Roger, nice job of following the MSM “smear Ron Paul guidelines” to the letter. You used the standard insults like “quixotic” and “idiosyncratic”, you quoted Peden but didn’t give Paul the opportunity to respond, etc. You raise the newsletter issue like it hasn’t been answered a million times by Paul so that it makes it look like he actually has something to hide.
Have you no shame? Have you no respect for the Constitution that Paul is trying to defend? HAVE YOU EVEN EVER READ THE DAMNED THING? No, you haven’t. If you had, you would know that the Constitutional usurpations Paul “claims” are not just assertions on his part, they are clear if you read Art. 1, Sect. 8. There isn’t any room for interpretation – its written at a 6th grade level.
As a veteran, it makes me sick to think of the soldiers who risk and sacrificed their lives to protect undeserving pigs like you.
YOU HAVE NO HONOR! You are merely a prostitute trying to please your main stream media pimps.
Feb 19, 2008 - 8:10 am 11. Darel:Many details on Peden’s site are by far stretching the truth.. So I called Peden’s office and spoke to Roxanne last week and instead of hearing my points she went on and on about Ron not really being a republican and that the statements were true. Well, she never allowed me to even help her understand why Peden’s site was dishonest.. Because she hung up the phone… This was after I told her I have family who live in Paul’s district and I felt it was my duty to let her know the facts…
Now if Peden would hire someone to act as a gate keeper and to be rude think about the kind of staff he would hire if in congress?
Also, his site makes great effort to show he is a Christian but when a man lies about another it’s not only a lie but Chris is Guilty of bearing false witness.
In my view a man who would bear false witness has no business in congress and I’m looking forward to Paul beating Peden…
By the way Roxanne, you need to start looking for another job in about two weeks… I think they hire rude people to work for the phone company you may want to start there first.
Feb 19, 2008 - 8:24 am 12. chite chen:On March 4, Texans voting for McCain or Huckabee to be Republican nominee as President will take Chris Peden over Ron Paul for congressional nominee. I think Ron Paul will not return to congress, unless he run as an independent.
When Ron Paul has nothing to lose as a Republican Congressman, maybe he will run as an independent for President and Congress, which will then give a Democrat presidency for sure.
that is the biggest poetic justice.
drop out Chris Peden.
ChiTe
Feb 19, 2008 - 9:11 am 13. B Dubya:Scratch Herr Doktor Paul, and look at the Paulbots slither out from under every rock and root in the neighborhood.
Luap Nor is a blight on his district in Texas, if only his automatonic supporters could see the reality of it, and he is a disgrace to the Republican Party.
I hope that the Texas 14th Congressional District sends someone not a loon to Congress next term.
Feb 19, 2008 - 9:12 am 14. Rav:Nice try buddy,some neocon started this 43-32 thingy and it has been passed on to all the anti-Paul blogs.Just wait…only a matter of weeks before Paul whips Peden in the polls.
TX-14 ppl …get ready to show Peden the door out…
Ron Paul revolution…restore the constitution…save America!!!
Feb 19, 2008 - 9:25 am 15. AJ:I am a conservative Republican and believe Ron Paul is among the most horrible people in America. Do we not remember he is devoutly anti-Israel and blames America for all the evils of the world. As much as Obama is horrid, even he does not go that far. I am ashamed that Paul is a Republican and hope he disappears. Most of his supporters are anarchist/leftists. Revolution, indeed.
Feb 19, 2008 - 9:41 am 16. MJ:One of the reasons the funding had to switch from the Presidential to the Congressional campaign was because Dr. Paul did not anticipte Peden’s run. The reason for this is that Peden endorsed Paul and committed to not running against him. My family and I live around Needville and intend to vote for Dr. Paul. I think Paul represents my family and friends and America well. If I did not have the opportunity to support Paul I would not support Peden.
Feb 19, 2008 - 10:23 am 17. BobDCOusy:I hope that everyone in district 14 rally for Dr. Paul. If you haven’t given please do…even a dollar. Minors that support Paul by wearing shirts, making signs, and supporting him on myspace may also contribute to the congressional campaign. If you support Dr. Paul please support his congressional campaign. Please help to ensure we have Dr. Paul in government who looks out for the American people, their freedom, and their prosperity.
I trust the polls more I do Ron Paul fans. Remember they were telling us not to trust the polls when he only had 4% for president, and looked what happened there.
Feb 19, 2008 - 10:24 am 18. Dena:I am a conservative Republican (long before the Neocon/Fanatical Christian takeover)and believe Ron Paul is among the most honorable and honest people in America. Do we not remember he is devoutly Pro-”America First” and blames the misguided policies of our “police the world” leaders for much of the evil of the world? I am so proud that Paul is a Republican and hope he and his Revolution live forever. Most of his supporters understand the value of liberty and abhor the policies of the current neocon fake “conservatives.” LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
Feb 19, 2008 - 10:44 am 19. junyo:“…a license to send other peoples sons and daughters to die wars for Israel’s interests.”
Why, oh why, would anyone think that R. Paul’s candidacy mostly supported by a bunch of racist xenophobes?
Feb 19, 2008 - 10:44 am 20. Buzz:Dear Paulnuts:
Perhaps the sane people of the 14th district are embarassed to be represented by a kook who thinks 9-11 was an “inside job”. The exposure Paul has gotten during the campaign has not endeared him to most people.
Feb 19, 2008 - 10:45 am 21. J. Benson:Aren’t you too busy fighting in the wars you support to be posting here, AJ?
It goes without saying that neoconservatives are all for war so long as they are not taxed for them and don’t have to die in them.
By the way, last quarter Paul received more campaign donations from the military than all other Republican candidates combined. I guess they’re “horrible people” for supporting him as well, right?
Feb 19, 2008 - 10:55 am 22. J. Benson:Junyo, please tell me what “race” Israel is…
Feb 19, 2008 - 11:04 am 23. mhowell:Unlike many of the Paul-Bots that have commented so far, I actually live in the TX-14th. I usually vote in the Dem primary to have a say in all the county races (in rural Texas most local races are still contested there) but this year I’m crossing over just for the privelege of voting against Ron Paul. This bozo has been slipping in under-the-radar for far too long. The non-kook element in this district is wise to him now. I think we can finally toss him out this time.
Feb 19, 2008 - 11:54 am 24. junyo:J. Benson,
I’m sure that Israel is under constant threat from it’s Muslim neighbors and singled out for the ire of the rank and file Paulite because of the 0.005% of the population that are Christians of Latvian origin…
If you’re going to deny the anti-Semitism the least you could do is be slightly clever about it. Hiding behind the “Israel is a country” argument is either ignorant or deliberately disingenuous about the fact that the vast majority of people effected by any actions towards Israel are ethnic Jews. The point is Paulites inevitably scream about how non-racist R. Paul is, then a few posts into one of these threads someone makes an anti “Israel” post, or a “but most blacks are criminals” post, and there’s a thunderous silence, or people like yourself, defending it. Yet we’re not supposed to believe that this crap is what Mr. Paul offers the country or his district.
Feb 19, 2008 - 12:25 pm 25. Trans-Mutant:If you get your informacion from the media, then yes you’re right, “Paul never caught on fire”. In fact, he never existed according to the media. This is crap!
Paul raised 400K for the congress campaign yesterday and there’s no way he’s loosing that seat to that clown.
Furthermore, Paul has the biggest movement for freedom this country has barely seen in two centuries and keeps growing by the day. Scary eh?
His delegate strategy is working though you’ll never figure that out with the media “doing its job”.
Hold on to your pants for the march on Washington, just before the convention…
Feb 19, 2008 - 12:28 pm 26. Mark L:I live in TX14. I am also active in Republican politics there. My take is that most precinct chairs in TX14 plan to vote for Peden. I plan to. So will our friends and relations.
Paul-bots do not typically live in TX-14. Even in 2006 a primary challenger got 36% of the vote against Paul. Republicans there support both Bush and the war. Paul? He is manning the barricades against both with the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Jack Murtha.
If Republicans wanted a Democrat representing them, we would elect one. Paul is in trouble.
Feb 19, 2008 - 12:39 pm 27. J. Benson:Junyo,
So if I don’t want my tax dollars poured into Israel, if I don’t want my countrymen dying in wars for “our friend in the region”, and if I don’t want a reckless religion-based foreign policy, I’m a racist.
Nice logic, bigot.
Being against Israel is every American’s right; we pay for that millstone every day with our tax dollars. Lets send our money and our soldiers home where they belong.
Feb 19, 2008 - 1:07 pm 28. Marianne:You’ve prompted me to donate another $250. Dr. Paul’s campaign thanks you.
Feb 19, 2008 - 1:11 pm 29. Sandra:I’m from Alvin but working in La. Peden has lost all credibility just from the way he ran his campaign.
Feb 19, 2008 - 1:29 pm 30. John Smith:Pedo is certainly not the frontrunner by any measure. Whoever runs this rinky dink website sure does hate Ron Paul, obviously. Good luck becoming the next CNN, as is your apparent grandiose fantasy! Pedo sure likes to volunteer with children at his Sunday School and teach them about the bible.
Feb 19, 2008 - 1:34 pm 31. Diesel:Wow, I cannot believe how many people spew information as fact without looking at the figures or information themselves. Do you realize how foolish you look when all you can do is parrot the same wrong data that has been fed to you over and over again by MSM? Do yourselves a favor and get your news from a different source or at least check your facts before you run off at the mouth about why Dr. Paul is a kook or not a conservative. At least take a quick history lesson to learn about what each party actually stands for or at least stood for.
Feb 19, 2008 - 1:59 pm 32. Jack Sheet:Wow the tin foil hat brigade is out in force!
Revolution?
Save America?
You guys need to switch to decaf (or lithium).
Feb 19, 2008 - 2:20 pm 33. buzz:The Paulbots seem to think that the rest of us just breathlessly lap up whatever info the mainstream media is pushing. Speaking for myself, I get info from lots of sources – just not the Alex Jones Show and the Stormfront website. That may be where the disconnect lies.
Can’t wait to see that March on Washington though!
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:01 pm 34. Eric Baum:The claim Paul has only 14 delegates also appears incorrect. Paul claims to have at least 42.
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:03 pm 35. TC Bell:You’re wrong again Peden! Congress voted to give the President the authourity to go to War. Which is unconstitional. So what you said is “When the Congress acts in direct oppostion to the Constitution, I will guarentee that I too will not consider what the Ratifiers had to say.”
It is idiots like this who we DO NOT need in Congress.
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:19 pm 36. BP:So… what’s kooky about Ron Paul:
He’s against a war for profit of cronies. Yeah, how dare he not want Americas killed for the profits of industrial military complex.
He’s against giving money to foreign nations. So kooky not to want to spend money we don’t have by *GIVING* it away.
Ron Paul saw the mortgage mess coming in 2005 and tried to do something about it. Yeah, that’s the sure sign of a kook seeing things before most people.
Ron Paul is for the US constitution. Yeah so kooky that he takes that document seriously.
I could go on and on. Everything he has opposed Bush Jr. on will be power passed on to Hillary Clinton the way things are going. You’ll all sound like Paul after the Clinton machine starts using those new bush powers. And speaking of sounding like Ron Paul, how about Cheney in 2001? http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/news-speeches/speeches/vp20010916.html
Cheney clearly states US foreign policy motivated the attacks….
BTW, read this: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019503.html
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:20 pm 37. Fed Up:Jack Sheet…
Just like your typical neocon…attacking the supporters, but never the message. If anyone has a tin foil hat on its those who support the same neocon waqrmongering platform that lost them the House and the Senate in 2006. So now the dollar is much weaker than then and you think 100 years in Iraq McCain is going to save your arses? Hey…I think your neocon hat needs adjusting. See the price of gold today? Who’s in fantasy land? Who ignored the Constitution? You and your neocon ilk, that’s who. The world doesn’t hate Americans, the world hates the warmongering neocons!
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:23 pm 38. Kemp:For those of you Bush apologists on here who seem to think he is a “conservative” you just crack me up. Did you watch the most recent state of the union address? GWB proposed enough spending and big government programs to make a hard core Democrat blush. Anyone with any sense (I guess those who you warmongering head-in-the-sand types call “kooks” LMAO) would support and vote for Ron Paul. Being the most honest person in major American politics is one major reason.
On January 12, 2007, a Texas city councilman named Chris Peden told the Galveston Daily News, “I have an immense amount of respect for Ron Paul. Politics has a way of forcing people to go against their core principles for political gain. That has never been the case for Ron Paul.”
http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods85.html
BTW, saying we shouldn’t give Israel billions of taxpayer dollars is in absolutely no way racist. Ron Paul also supports cutting off the taxpayer funding hose to all the Arab countries as well. He is consistent in his morally-correct position that American taxpayers should not be plundered for the benefit of overseas governments.
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:27 pm 39. ubbu:Israel has to be the home of the most vicous bigots and racists known to mankind. Jesus H, they built a wall to keep their country racially pure and the jews forever the majority! Yet these same racists are over here telling us to keep our borders wide open, while waging a global war against terrorism, and our country is being overwhelmed by mexicans who hate the US! What an ALIPAC of liars!
For all the Peden-ophiles who are writing in from CENTCOM (er, I mean the TX14, wink wink), you’re network of lying web propagandists are now being revealed. No more crediblity for Pajamas Media, Little Green Footballs, Michelle Malkin, and the like. We should have known better, what with the professional websites and extensive blogging that no real journalist or part-timer could ever manage.
Get ready for 2-3 million in Wachington DC this summer. It’ll be nice to see, this revolution, with Ron Paul in the front or not.
Bye guys!
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:33 pm 40. buzz:I have no idea what I am talking about.
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:40 pm 41. AJ:Dena, as to your silly “I am a conservative Republican (long before the Neocon/Fanatical Christian takeover)and believe Ron Paul is among the most honorable and honest people in America. Do we not remember he is devoutly Pro-”America First” and blames the misguided policies of our “police the world” leaders for much of the evil of the world? I am so proud that Paul is a Republican and hope he and his Revolution live forever. Most of his supporters understand the value of liberty and abhor the policies of the current neocon fake “conservatives.” LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!”
We GOPers support Israel and America. That’s why we’re not leftist tools. Wake up and prioritize. Because of your ilk, Obama will be president.
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:41 pm 42. Jack Sheet:Perhaps that was rude…but fun!
People think RP supporters are kooky because of the kooky ideas they support. That and the spittle flying from your mouths when you “debate” someone.
Feb 19, 2008 - 3:50 pm 43. Steven:I see a lot of people “claiming” Ron Paul is not conservative, but I don’t see a single argument WHY, much less any evidence to support any such argument.
Furthermore, other attacks on Dr. Paul fit into 2 categories: either non-political and irrelevant OR knowingly false.
I’ll save you guys attacking Ron Paul some time typing your attacks, just copy and paste this:
“Ron Paul ad hominem, ad hominem, ad hominem. Ron Paul ad hominum, ad hominem, ad hominem.”
I’d also recommend you review the information at the following link to learn about new ways to distort reality to attack Ron Paul (and anyone else you would like to):
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
Reality is what happens whether you believe it or not.
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:03 pm 44. mwl:I’ve often noticed that Paul supporters have more passion than sense. The comments I’ve read here only reinforce that opinion.
The U.S. literally cannot afford Paul’s isolationism. It’s a strategy of weakness, which would be fatal to the country’s long-term interests.
I wish Mr. Peden luck on March 4th.
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:07 pm 45. robert:Hello Roger.
As an outsider looking in… I think you should preface your articles as being political advertisements. It sure would make it easy for those wanting to skip that “stuff” when looking for some objective information.
One sided political opinions are a joke. So are those who make them. RL.
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:09 pm 46. Lem:How much longer is The Ronulan Empire going to be still allowed to command troops?
Give it up allready!
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:11 pm 47. Jon:Junyo, If the idea of personal liberty appeals to malcontents–so be it. Good usage of the standard ad hominem though. With regards to Israel, he neither wants to support it, nor does he want to support its Arab neighbors (currently receiving four times what Israel receives) in American tax dollars. Why? Anti-semitism? No, Junyo. He doesn’t support the subsidization of any foreign governments. They can support themselves. They should neither fear U.S. bombs when they disagree, nor should they demand U.S. dollars when they do agree. That money should stay at home to fix the problems at home–which even you must admit, are extant and important.
Read up on middle east affairs. The U.S. has no business there whatsoever, and being there only causes us trouble.
Anyways, Junyo, I’m sure you can suss this out. Issues are always deeper than forum posts make them out to be.
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:13 pm 48. Kemp:AJ -
“We GOPers support Israel and America. That’s why we’re not leftist tools. Wake up and prioritize. Because of your ilk, Obama will be president.”
Let me break down this comedy sentence by sentence:
1. “We GOPers support Israel and America.” OK, do you really support America? America is the Constitution, that’s what America is, everything else is built off of that. If you support taxpayer plunder to pay foreign governments, which is clearly not constitutional or sensible, then you do not support America. You actually support Anti-American activity. If you, as a free American support Israel, you can send her money. It is easy. But don’t pull out the big guns of government to bludgeon taxpayers to send money everywhere.
2. “That’s why we’re not leftist tools.” OK, asserting Ron Paul is somehow a leftist is complete, unabridged ignorance. He is 100% for LIMITED GOVERNMENT. The opposite is big government totalitarianism. Leftism is a philosophy of big government totalitarianism so how could Ron Paul or his supporters who share his views tools for this philosophy? Because we believe in being wise when it comes to waging war? There is an old saying: war is the health of the state. I think those of you who seek perpetual war are the real totalitarians. You are more aligned with leftism than those who advocate for minimal government.
3. “Wake up and prioritize. Because of your ilk, Obama will be president.” No, because of the complete idiocy and blatant lack of integrity of GWB, as well as the beligerence of the chosen candidate John McCain (not to mention a word called “amnesty”) that is the reason Obama will likely be the guy. Ron Paul was the only conservative who could beat the Dems this year but the GOP cut off its nose to spite its face.
People who bash Ron Paul usually lack at least some portion of their rational faculties. It is ironic that they are the ones quick to pass out the “kook” label. What a joke?
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:15 pm 49. Thundercloud:Neo-tards
Is that acceptable? Neo-tard? Good..thank you.
I was once one myself. Hard to admit you have been duped all these years.
It’s curable though.
Just takes a good doctor.
It’s plain to see that you’ve been collecting MSM rhetoric for all these months. And now you regurgitate it here. Your statements regarding Ron Paul, show that you know nothing about him. You spew only the things that you wish others to think.
Please try to think for yourself.
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:22 pm 50. Kemp:Neo-tard!
LOL – love it!
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:31 pm 51. Mark Elam:I hate to dash the spirits of what few Peden supporters exist out there, but the desperate propoganda being promoted by the Peden campaign is no where near reality. Peden is NOT leading Dr. Paul in this race. In fact, most voters still don’t even know who Peden is. How do I know this? Because I am Ron Paul’s campaign manager and I have personally overseen 4 different political surveys in district 14 in recent weeks. All 4 surveys have shown the same results: Ron Paul has a high favorabilty rating and high marks on his job approval. And if the election were held today, 60+ percent of the GOP voters say they would vote to reelect Ron Paul, while only 18-20% chose Peden. The remaining 20% or so say they are undecided or refuse to give an answer to these scientific and statistically accurate surveys.
For those who follow the Ron Paul congressional campaigns you will remember that Shane Sklar, Dr. Paul’s Democrat opponent pulled this same kind of deceptive game toward the end of his campaign, putting out press statements saying he had polls claiming his was tied with or even ahead of Ron Paul.
For example:
Burnt Orange Report::: TX-14: Shane Sklar Can Beat Ron Paul
Shane Sklar leads Ron Paul 54-30% in an informed Congressional vote.
And let me see now…Sklar got beat by Ron Paul by how much? This press clip may jog your memory of the election outcome…
Ron Paul …. defeated Democratic rancher Shane Sklar with 60 percent of the vote. …
So, those of you who believe Peden’s supposed lead in the polls should really place some bets on this one…BIG bets. And then when Peden, who is still virtually unknown to the voters and has almost no money in his campaign, (other than what he has loaned himself)loses the election and you lose a lot of money…then, maybe, reality might become a little more clear.
Just presenting the facts to help provide a little political reality check.
Oh, and BTW, Ron Paul can not and will not access money he has raised for his presidential race for use in his congressional campaign. It is not allowed under federal election rules. But then again, he doesn’t need to, because his congressional campaign has raised $1 million dollars over the past two weeks. Check it out at:
http://www.RonPaulforCongress.com
Sincerely,
Mark Elam
Campaign Manager,
Committee to Reelect Ron Paul
Feb 19, 2008 - 4:38 pm 52. Kat:This is just laughable. Ron Paul is going to win and Peden can go pound sand
Feb 19, 2008 - 5:03 pm 53. Bryant Knight:Mr. Simon:
Poor journalism.
You might as well be a Gonzo journalist like Hunter S. Thompson. Just put a disclaimer at the beginning of the article, please.
Feb 19, 2008 - 5:08 pm 54. AJ:Kemp, simple question:
do you want to kill terrorists, protect America and Israel, and win the War on Islamo-fascism?
To answer me with anything but a “yes” makes you a leftist tool, just like 90% of the Ron Paul supporters I know.
Feb 19, 2008 - 5:35 pm 55. Madeline:AJ, you are not a conservative Republican. You don’t even know the meaning, the history, of the word. Dr. Paul definitely does. A neo-con, you are.
Feb 19, 2008 - 6:06 pm 56. mike l.:Ron Paul is certainly not an “anti-Semite”, but I am. Is there something wrong with that?
Feb 19, 2008 - 6:29 pm 57. Sam:Not that anyone reads this far down (but me) but all this “kook” stuf got me thinking…
Feb 19, 2008 - 6:31 pm 58. LysanderSpoon:I find it interesting that the phrase found in (dare I say) every religion, accepted and reiterated by philosophers and common folk alike throughout recorded history is some version of:
“Treat others the way you would want to be treated.”
Yet, here we have Dr. Paul offering this tried and true wisdom only to be ridiculed as an isolationist, a kook, a crackpot or heaven forbid a conspiracy theorist. He is simply telling the sour truth.
It is universal and constant that most arguments are a matter of misunderstanding and here we have a politician that dares ask the question, “What would we do if China were doing this to us?” Well, the media pundits will have none of that. It might get the people thinking.
Ron Paul is not an isolationist, kook, anti-Semite, tin foil hat wearer or any of the other derogatory names often pinned on him by the pundits. These ad homonym attacks (aka name calling)and they are emotional. For better or for worse we are much more influenced by emotion than logic. So, these attacks are often brought out, and quite effectively so, to sway public opinion (aka spin) when the logical argument is not an available defense.
Dr. Paul is, in fact, the only candidate actually looking in the mirror and bravely telling the truth, “Yes, we’re fat.” If it were your child you would commend them for telling the truth when it is most difficult. But ours is a sour truth so it’s easily rejected. Especially when the media offer such delectable lies. Sadly, until we realize (what we already know) we are powerless to fix our problems.
We’ve learned as individuals to do unto others as we would have them do unto us, so why do we let the media confuse us into thinking that it is anti-social or kooky to apply this to our neighbors?
Ron Paul or no Ron Paul we are heading for trying times. I would rather face them head on and lessen the blow than delay the inevitable and make things worse. Again with the logic; I must be a kook?
Congressman Paul is the only consistent & honorable politician I know of. I’m from CA and have been sending him donations for 10 years. I wish I could vote for him too. Hopefully the people in his district appreciate the man, because there is no one else like him in politics. If they end up electing a status quo mediocrity like Peden, they don’t deserve Paul anyway. It would hurt the rest of us too though, because Paul’s the only person in D.C. who can be counted on to represent the interests of all Americans.
Feb 19, 2008 - 6:54 pm 59. yhtr:If you don’t adopt the “pre-emptive war” doctrine of Nazi Germany, you are now considered an isolationist among neo-cons (aka Peden-philes).
Feb 19, 2008 - 8:16 pm 60. ancapaaron:The pro-middle east intervention military industrial crowd has got their wish in regards to the presidential race and they’ll be angry, if Obama beats Clinton out on the Democractic ticket. They chose McCain because he’s just like Hillary only with bigger boobs. Not that Obama is that much better than the other two, but the neo-con wing is aching for Hillary, so that McCain can compete.
Just take a look at some these comments. Some people think sending millions of tax dollars to other countries governments is the American thing to do. I wonder if they would still do it if it wasn’t compulsory?
They’re so “Amurekun” that I’m sure they wake up in the morning and say “I feel so bad for middle eastern countries today” and then send a middle eastern country half their paycheck. Way more “Amurekun” than the Paul crowd…..
Feb 19, 2008 - 9:29 pm 61. dom youngross:A sure sign someone doesn’t have something worthwhile to say is when they have to use pejoratives to say it.
Comments that hinge on the terms Paultard, Ronulans, kook, tin-foil hat, or loon tell us something only about the person making the comment, not what that person is commenting on.
Reread any of the comments using such pejoratives, here or elsewhere, and take those pejoratives out of the comments.
What are you left with? Comments that say nothing.
Separately to mwl: What you call ‘isolationist,’ a type of groupthink pejorative that always catches my eye, I call non-interventionist.
Consider how successful we were previously with our ‘non-isolationist’ support of:
1) Diem in South Vietnam,
2) the Shah in Iran,
3) Saddam Hussein when he was at war with the Iranians, or;
4) bin Laden and the Afghan mujahedeen against the Soviet ‘non-isolationists.’
I’ve often noticed that Paul detractors have more passion than historical sense.
I also get the feeling that many may equate non-interventionalism with peace-loving ‘hippies’ who would just sit around in one, big ‘love-fest’ while Al-Qaeda ruthlessly invaded us and slit our throats in our sleep.
Not so! We could retract from ‘imperialistic’ nation-building foreign policy tomorrow and still maintain the greatest military force ever assembled in the history of the world.
I’ve also noticed that the form of representational democracy we have here in the US today is something that took us about 800 years worth of painful trial-and-error to produce — 200-plus years here in the US, and almost 600 years previous to that in England.
The thinking that believes we can do the world a big favor and install the benefits of our form of government elsewhere in the world in a short, maybe 50-year period, through the strategic placement of a few aircraft carriers, 50-150K ground troops, and a few hundred laser-guided bombs is tragically flawed.
Yes, that’s right, installing representational democracy in Iraq in only 50 years’ time, at a cost of $275,000,000 per day, would be a short, very short, period.
And how ‘affordable’ is that?
As an outsider, I’m not going to weigh in directly on the Ron Paul – Peden contest in Texas district 14, other than to thank the voters of district 14 for previously bringing Ron Paul to Congress, and now to national attention.
I’m hopeful that Ron Paul has served you well and he will decisively retain his congressional seat.
Feb 19, 2008 - 9:34 pm 62. Bob:This Peden character will accelerate the bankrupcy of our country by following in lockstep the neocons and their 1 billion plus dollar a day fiasco in Iraq while brinking home the pork for his district. (The same pork McCain supposedly rails against.)
Elect Peden and get politics as usual and the bankrupcy of the country. Nice going Texas Republicans!
Feb 19, 2008 - 10:54 pm 63. RPTX:Saying Ron Paul is “kooky” is basically saying that the Constitution is kooky, since we all know that Ron Paul strictly follows and adheres to the Constition. And if you think that he is kooky, well in that case you must believe that our founder fathers were also kooky.
The 14th district voters will make the follow decision:
Paul: The Constitution, our founding fathers, traditional (true) conservatism…with a voting record to prove it. Someone who lives by true Christian principles and values.
Peden: Cut-and-Paste Bush Neo-conservative. Bigger Government, bigger spender, against civl liberties (God-given btw). Flip-flopper (Who actually supported Ron Paul before he didn’t support him). Spends more time attacking his opponent instead of discussing his positions.
Let me also remind people here that Ronald Reagan was also considered “kooky” and a “long-shot candidate” when he entered the politcal arena. Dare you say that about him now?
With all do respect to the Peden supporters, you should probably go back to checking the latest Brittney news on Fox and let us fighting Patriots fix our country once again, like we have done time and time again. At least your kids and their kids will remember us and thank us down the road.
I have just one question for the self-proclaimed Christian conservatives that is for the war in Iraq:
Who would Jesus bomb?
Thats what I call a question of mass neocon destruction.
Feb 19, 2008 - 11:09 pm 64. Deet:simple question:
do you want to kill terrorists, protect America and Israel, and win the War on Islamo-fascism?
Terrorist -a person who tries to frighten people or governments into doing what he/she wants by using or threatening violence.
Feb 19, 2008 - 11:40 pm 65. lolmonkeys:That can be a very vague and broad term. The US has created and funded “terrorists” many times, sometimes we called them “freedom fighters”. Even Bush falls under this definition as he threatened violence to Sadam if he didn’t reveal his WMD’s. If you imply the question “should we kill those responsible for 911″, yes, but should that include a million innocent Iraqi civilians, NO!
Protect America and Isreal, ok, but we don’t do that by wearing down our military nation building.
Win the War on Islamo-fascism? Do YOU even know what that is? Islam is a religion, and NO, the US should not be at war with a religion. Facsism is a system of government under a dictator in collusion with business
emphasing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. I don’t think there is such a dictator that we should be at war with. War, by definition, is a conflict between two countries, you can’t have a war against a tactic, or religion! That could only be a “simple quetion” to a brainwashed neo-con! A better question might be, “Do you want to detroy and bankrupt your country and childrens future pursuing a failed policy?”
All these “Anti-Ron Paul” comments are posted by Chris Peden himself. He has ZERO support. So, he comes online and posts under different account names by using free wireless.
Feb 19, 2008 - 11:58 pm 66. Torqued:One thing that I have learned throught the 2008 presidential election thus far is, lies. We have liars here, we have liars there. Ron Paul has kept this seat 10 terms, not by lying, but by being a true person. Racist he is not, anti-sematic he is not, LIAR he is not, he hates no-one as far as I can tell.
But I do,
I hate anyone that tries to kill the Constitution of this nation. I hate manipulators that try to pervert and twist the writings of the founders of the United States’ blood stained hands. You can kill my body, but you cannot kill my soul. I will not bow down to tyranny like the capitolists of this nation will. Anyone out there that has less than $200,000 in assets and cash, should be ashamed of themselves for not backing this one true statesman, Ron Paul.
Feb 20, 2008 - 12:06 am 67. OmegaPaladin:Ron Paul is a joke. The sooner he is gone the better. It’s a whole bunch of lines about neocons and gold standard and evil Zionists and other assorted BS. What does he think this is, the 1890s?
Has it not dawned on you that the Republican party completely rejected Paulitics? The revolution is dead
Feb 20, 2008 - 1:04 am 68. ancapaaron:OmegaPaladin you and you’re fellow McCainiacs sure don’t put a lot of thought into your comments posted here. The same sort of apathy will/or already has gone into your vote casted for McCain, I’m sure. Ron Paul doesn’t need to win the primaries, nor does he need to win against Peden even. The minority of the Republican he has won over is the more thoughtful and intellectual side of the party. The revolution isn’t dead, but your straw man arguments against Pauls positions are.
Feb 20, 2008 - 2:39 am 69. Nancy:Don’t acknowledge this guy even exists.
Feb 20, 2008 - 3:43 am 70. robert:Chris Peden is the most unqualified candidate to run for Congress in decades. He is a brain-dead neocon loser, that swallows the Bush family BS whole. Terrorism is made in Washington, by politicians who insist on intervening in the affairs of other nations. Our house is NOT in order. Our elections are a fraud, and our nation is over-taxed and over-regulated and headed for financial disaster. Chris and his other Pedenphiles will only make things worse.
Feb 20, 2008 - 4:58 am 71. Jacques Poirier:If south Texans ever rejected Ron Paul, we want him here in Canada. We never had a politician with half the integrity of this fine gentleman. We have no neocons here and we would treat him very well. He made the US palatable again after Americans elected Bush for a second term. Also, we’d like him to bring along several thousand Paulites. They would whip up the intellectual life of our frozen country!
Feb 20, 2008 - 6:15 am 72. Steve:“Ron Paul is a joke. The sooner he is gone the better. It’s a whole bunch of lines about neocons and gold standard and evil Zionists and other assorted BS. What does he think this is, the 1890s?”
I’ll tell you, if the outcome wasn’t going to be so horrific, I would love to see it come to fruition just so that I, and many others, could point in your face and mock you for your incredibly ignorance that will be the demise of America. YOU (and the others like you) are leading America into oblivion, and it will be YOUR fault that we’ll all be suffering.
If you want to educate yourself on what you obviously don’t understand, then watch this film and maybe, just maybe, you’ll “get it”. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
Anyone who understands this and still denegrates Ron Paul should be executed for treason to America.
Feb 20, 2008 - 7:09 am 73. Steve:“Luap Nor (Ron Paul) is a blight on his district in Texas, if only his automatonic supporters could see the reality of it”
And what reality would that be, Dubya? What great insight do YOU have that we don’t? Because I’ll tell you what… If you knew even a fraction of what WE, Ron’s “automatic supporters”, knew you wouldn’t vote for anyone else.
See my previous post where I linked to a film that will clue you in to what we’re really facing. And no, it’s not terrorists like our exhaulted leaders (by you) are telling us.
The time has come for the American people to stop listening to politicians who lie (most of them. Ron Paul NOT included), to stop listening to the mainstream media who are parrots of the political establishment, and to start doing their own homework. for any of you who care to understand before you go displaying your ignorance and idiocy on boards like these, search for any of these items and you’ll understand a whole lot of what you will never get from the mainstream media, or from the establishment politicians.
- Iranian Oil Bourse (the real reason we’re threatening Iran)
Feb 20, 2008 - 7:24 am 74. Steve:- Fractional Reserve Lending (legal counterfeiting by banks)
- Federal Reserve (the mother of all banks, and the root of almost all of Americas problems)
You know, after reading a bunch of the anti-Ron Paul comments here, and the arguments made against him, I can only say that I truly feel sorry for those ignorant souls on this board.
And I say this sincerely, because you all have no idea what is heading our way. You honestly think that terrorists are our biggest threat. You honestly think that it is the job of the USA to keep peace and order around the globe, regardless of the fact that we have no moreal justification to do so, let alone the resources.
There are so many glaring examples of atrocities that our government has turned away from because there was no benefit to the establishment to intervene, yet you all still swallow the idea that we needed to overthrow Saddam Hussein to “liberate the Iraqi people”. Are you all really this naive?
If you’re a Republican who trusts your party, you’ve been duped. If you’re a Democrat who trusts your party, you’ve been duped. If you want to understand how you’ve been duped, just ask any 1 of the many Ron Paul supporters who were R’s or D’s, and ask them what it was that made them a die-hard RP supporter. There is a very distinct reason that none of you have seen yet. Trust me, I was one of you for a very long time. You all still think the enemy is who our government claims they are protecting us from. The truth is that our government IS the enemy. If you don’t believe me, educate yourself. Search for these items and learn.
- America: Freedom to Fascism
- Debt as Money
- The Money Masters
- Fiat Empire
- The Creature from Jekyll Island
- The Liberty Dollar
- Iranian Oil Bourse
I’m not trying to insult anyone, and I’m truly saddened by the villafication of a man who has dedicated his life to helping others. Not only as a doctor, but as a Congresman who understands the real dangers we face.
If you do nothing else this election cycle, search for any 1 of those items above and maybe you’ll begin to see what we’re dealing with. If you don’t, America will founder. She’s taking on a lot of water right now, and she won’t hold out much longer. Don’t take my word for it, educate yourself.
Feb 20, 2008 - 7:43 am 75. America FIRST:Wonder who is backing this America-second neocon…
Feb 20, 2008 - 9:03 am 76. DIE NAZI NEOCONNS:Ron Paul has more integrity, and honesty than peden could ever have.
Ron Paul speaks truth and some cant handle it. America the Great? no, more like amreica the corrupt under the Bush Nazi regime. Facists corporatists. The Congressman will retain his seat. The only thing that will oust him is your fraudulent E-Voting machines. Do you think you can continue to tell the lie over and over and people still believe it.
Feb 20, 2008 - 12:57 pm 77. Barry Hess:Ron Paul is a man of integrity, unlike most of you divorcee’s, in your second or third politcally convienient marriages. We are Change. Pro Liberty Caucus!
Peden, go home.
The author is obviously in the pocket of the olde media, a total idiot incapable of serious research and confirmation or just plain recklessly stupid.
I’m sick and tired of the olde media propaganda, and I know it when I see it. For instance, the author says Paul has “19″ delegates, uh…he has over 43. Whoops! I’m sure the sleight wasn’t intended to diminish or marginalize Dr. Paul, yeah, right. But how does the moron explain that Dr. Paul has served 10 terms—not “10 years” as he states.
This is why I, like many other educated thinking people are certain the ‘jig’ is up for the olde propaganda wing of the Republican/Democrat Party, and why we block offending networks from our TV scan list and why we quit supporting the olde media rags–like this one–through subscription.
I hope they never catch on and completely go away. I’d be more interested in replacing the olde media cronies and fools than reforming them.
As always, I remain at your service–
Feb 20, 2008 - 2:03 pm 78. Barry Hess:Barry Hess
(yeah, I’ll put my name on it.)
The author is obviously in the pocket of the olde media, a total idiot incapable of serious research and confirmation or just plain recklessly stupid.
I’m sick and tired of the olde media propaganda, and I know it when I see it. For instance, the author says Paul has “19″ delegates, uh…he has over 43. Whoops! I’m sure the sleight wasn’t intended to diminish or marginalize Dr. Paul, yeah, right. But how does the moron explain that Dr. Paul has served 10 terms—not “10 years” (20 years)as he states.
This is why I, like many other educated thinking people are certain the ‘jig’ is up for the olde propaganda wing of the Republican/Democrat Party, and why we block offending networks from our TV scan list and why we quit supporting the olde media rags–like this one–through subscription.
I hope they never catch on and completely go away. I’d be more interested in replacing the olde media cronies and fools than reforming them.
As always, I remain at your service–
Barry Hess
(yeah, I’ll put my name on it.)
I noticed that the comments have to be approved….will this one?
Feb 20, 2008 - 2:05 pm 79. Jeremy:Peden is laughable hypocrite who’s only goal is to become famous. His idea of conservatism is giving as much money as possible to NASA.
Feb 20, 2008 - 2:09 pm 80. Paul:Could Ron Paul lose his congressional seat? If they use Diebold machines in that election he sure could…
Feb 20, 2008 - 2:27 pm 81. Niles Standush:If L. Ron Paul loses his seat in congress, I will throw a big party. He and his cultish followers have become a pox on the house of the GOP. We may have to deal with Barry “Che” Obama or Captain McAmnesty as president, but at least we won’t ever have to hear from Paul and his merry band of Kool-Aid drinkers again!
Feb 20, 2008 - 2:44 pm 82. Stephen:Ron Paul supporters were some of the biggest jerks I’ve ever seen. I’m glad their candidate lost.
Feb 20, 2008 - 2:55 pm 83. s35wf:Ron Paul IS Intgrity! If TX doesn’t want him, I DO! He is honest, truthful, and tells it like it is. If only Congress and America had more like him, we would NOT have illegal, immoral wars, a bankrupt nation, a patriot act, and our own gov’t spying illegally on it’s own Citizens.
May God Bless this man.
Feb 20, 2008 - 3:00 pm 84. Buzz:RP 08
I see the latest Paulnut has already come up with an excuse if Herr Doktor loses – the “fraudulent E-voting machines.” Yeah, that’s the ticket! I guess that’s why his actual votes so far haven’t come anywhere near the “landslide” we were told to expect. Funny how the “true conservatives” are using the same excuse the liberals always scream when they lose.
Feb 20, 2008 - 4:14 pm 85. Paine:The sane majority of Americans who now consider Iraq a catastrophic “mistake” should actually thank the Pajama-freaks and their ilk for their great service to the nation. They’ve unwittingly created in the U.S. what they created in Iraq–massive blowback.
Take a good look at the primary results, Pajama stains. Candidates who opposed the Iraq invasion, or who now claim it was a “mistake” and want to pull out (Hillary the Hypocrite) are drawing three times more voters to the polls. And Ron Paul’s campaign was HUGELY successful considering his odds a few months ago.
Of course, the greatest benefactors by far will be antiwar Dems who will be stacked up like firewood at the polls in November to eradicate the neocon cancer from their lives. Too many for Diebold to “flip” this time (without getting caught and imprisoned for 10+ years).
Feb 20, 2008 - 4:18 pm 86. Dylboz:LMFAO @ this from mwl:
“The U.S. literally cannot afford Paul’s isolationism. It’s a strategy of weakness, which would be fatal to the country’s long-term interests.”
Do I even need to explain the basic economics of printing money to fill the pockets of Lockheed-Martin, Blackwater, KBR and Halliburton at the expense of the U.S. Taxpayer? Do you understand inflation, credit expansion, the disaster of monetizing debt, the housing crisis, the coming depression… ALL DUE TO NEO-CON “ECONOMICS” AND THE WAR ON TERROR!
How can we afford one war after another? This war is illegal in the U.S. and by Nuremburg standards (yes, Bush and the current G.O.P. establishment are morally on par with Hitler, Stalin and other war criminals) and it is the direct result of 50+ years of illegal meddling in foreign nations, the very policy you support, a policy advanced by Trotskyites (yes, your neo-con heros are actually COMMUNISTS! Look it up, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Perele, etc. – all of ‘em!) that will bankrupt the U.S. for the benefit of multi-national corporations and Israel. It’s a huge wealth transfer from the average American’s bank account to Bush’s corporate cronies and a foreign government. What is conservative about that? Is it not welfare if the recipient doesn’t actually need or deserve it?
All of you Bushites will be regarded by history the same way the “good Germans” of the 30’s and 40’s are. You will be ashamed in 20 years, if you even survive the events your horrible policies will precipitate, that you followed these pied pipers into the inflationary, welfare/warfare state and all it’s brutality, cronyism and profiteering, and you’ll be too embarrassed to admit that you ignored the one chance (Ron Paul and his revolution) you had to hit the brakes before the train really went off the tracks.
I do hope you all live to see the mess you’ll have made of things for your kids and grand kids, and I hope they spit in your faces for it before they go off to work like slaves for their Chinese masters. Ask yourselves if killing Arabs for the benefit of Israel is really worth it.
Neo-cons will be fatal to the long term interests of this nation, they’ve already poisoned its politics and crippled its military. All that is left is to put the Republic out of it’s misery. Martial law, here we come!
Feb 20, 2008 - 4:55 pm 87. Andrew:If Paden is such a joke, why are all the Paul sycophants waging such a verbal war against him? I smell fear. After all, in most cases when you’re up against a joke of a candidate, normally you just ignore them. Instead the sycophants on the Paul sites smear Paden on a daily basis.
Feb 20, 2008 - 6:18 pm 88. Allison D.:“If Paden is such a joke, why are all the Paul sycophants waging such a verbal war against him? I smell fear. After all, in most cases when you’re up against a joke of a candidate, normally you just ignore them. Instead the sycophants on the Paul sites smear Paden on a daily basis.”
After reading the blog and the comments such as the one Andrew made, I’m really getting tired of the erroneous commentary I am being forced to endure.
Since when is speaking up for the maligned wrong?
On a side note, considering that I’m seeing lots of paulites on here and very very few Padenites….one might draw the conclusion that Paden has noone informed enough to defend his petard.
But there I go drawing flights of fancy again.
Feb 20, 2008 - 9:30 pm 89. Dan:“Paul-bots do not typically live in TX-14. Even in 2006 a primary challenger got 36% of the vote against Paul.”
Umm…no. Cynthia Sinatra (Paul’s 2006 republican primary challenger) got 22% of the vote, not 36%. She lost by 56 percentage points despite spending 150,000 dollars of her own money on her campaign (sound familiar?)
Do get your facts straight before posting.
Feb 20, 2008 - 9:49 pm 90. mwl:Dylboz:
I understand basic economics and strategy quite well. Perhaps better than you do.
You imply that the U.S. is overextending itself to pay for the GWOT. Yet, how much more expensive would it be for us to sit on our hands? $100/bbl oil is far from ideal, but how much more expensive do you think oil would become if the Persian Gulf were to become inaccessible to Western shipping due to its surrender to Iran? As long as the U.S. engages in foreign trade, that trade must be defended. That lesson was learned early in our nation’s history, in the campaigns against the Barbary pirates.
You claim that the GWOT is “illegal”. I’ve often noticed that lefties claim that policies they simply don’t like are “illegal”. Both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars were authorized by Acts of Congress, and neither is illegal in any way.
If your vision comes to pass, I hope you live to see the consequences as well. I expect you’d pay the jizya with a smile.
Feb 21, 2008 - 12:48 am 91. Saltherring:You Paultards ought to have your own TV sitcom. Your hilarity outdoes the Saturday Night Live crew of the late 70’s. Adios, RP!
Feb 21, 2008 - 7:34 am 92. Dylboz:mwl, the so-called GWOT is illegal because the U.S. Constitution in no way allows for Congress to abdicate its power to declare war to the POTUS. It’s illegal under international law and the Geneva conventions because, at least in Iraq, it is a War of Aggression, like when Hitler invaded Poland.
Having grown up in countries like Libya and Saudi Arabia (my father was a government contractor teaching English in both countries, and we knew Americans and Europeans there with oil concerns) I can say, the jizya is of little importance, since there is already a highly militarized occupying force here in the United States, in the form of the police. Living in the military dictatorship of Libya, I saw fewer armed soldiers and checkpoints and dogs and machine guns in Tripoli of the 70’s, than I do at any professional sports game or airport in America. This place is a police state already. To serve and protect is right, they just serve and protect their corporate masters. You guys are wetting your pants about Muslims in caves and your reaction is to welcome tyranny at home just because it promises to protect you. You reject Hillary care (hey, me too), but then you gobble up Bush’s bedtime stories about Al-Queda? Puh-lease!
Free trade that is fair and mutually profitable should not require military force to maintain. Piracy doesn’t require the kind of military we have to suppress. Only neo-colonialism and economic imperialism require rattling sabres and parking carrier groups in the Straits of Hormuz.
Furthermore, I wont get in a pissing contest about who knows more about what, but it seems clear to me you have little if any experience outside the cozy confines of your American suburban lifestyle. And lastly I’m not a “leftie.” I’m a libertarian. I’m pro free market, anti-state, anti-war and anti-welfare, especially for multi-national corporations.
Feb 21, 2008 - 7:57 am 93. Dylboz:The shorter version…
Why is “Irhe papieren, bitte,” more palatable to Republicans when spoken in English by a minimum wage TSA agent than when spoken in Arabic by a bearded Taliban? I guess it’s not tyranny if your oppressors look like you, huh. Good Germans, indeed.
Feb 21, 2008 - 8:00 am 94. dom youngross:“If Paden is such a joke, why are all the Paul sycophants waging such a verbal war against him? I smell fear.”
Definition: A sycophant is a servile person who, acting in their own self interest, attempts to win favor by flattering one or more influential people, at the cost of their own personal pride, principles, and peer respect.
Well, I am acting in my own self-interest by supporting Ron Paul’s candidacy for president. And there’s everything right with that as such support upholds my own principles, values, and outlook.
My support for Ron Paul’s candidacy is not an attempt to win favor through self-effacing flattery, but the best way to secure the right to enjoy life more fully — by voting to downsize the bloated and intrusive federal government to constitutionally-authorized size.
Chris Peden is just another small impediment along the way in this process. IMHO Peden is just another body the entrenched Texas and National Republican party is trying to throw against the growing support for greater personal and economic freedom, locally and nationwide, to try and stave off its inevitable progress.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Texas and National Republican party held an open-call audition to find someone to throw up against Paul in Texas district 14.
I’d like to thank Pajamas Media by the way, for providing the online infrastructure with which to increase public awareness of Ron Paul’s presidential candidacy. One of the greatest things to come out of Ron Paul’s run for president so far is the growing awareness of how blatantly biased the MSM is. The Internet, which would remain uncensored and untaxed under a Paul presidency, is a great alternative news source.
If anyone is still undecided about who to vote for in their state primary or caucus, and also believes the federal government needs substantial downsizing, check out Ron Paul.
Also, phantom smells, such as the ’smell of fear,’ may be caused by nasal polyps or damage to olfactory or taste nerves. Anyone else suffering from such should see an ear, nose, and throat doctor.
Good point Allison D!:
Where are the Peden supporters?
How about it, couldn’t one of the many unidentified McCain supporters posting comments here actually stand up for Peden?
Feb 21, 2008 - 2:55 pm 95. Matt:Is this supposed to be a satire site? Anyway, ‘The Corner’ blog on the National Review quoted this from Paul’s campaign manager:
“Peden is NOT leading Dr. Paul in this race. In fact, most voters still don’t even know who Peden is. How do I know this? Because I am Ron Paul’s campaign manager and I have personally overseen 4 different political surveys in district 14 in recent weeks. All 4 surveys have shown the same results: Ron Paul has a high favorable rating and high marks on his job approval. And if the election were held today, 60+ percent of the GOP voters say they would vote to reelect Ron Paul, while only 18-20% chose Peden. The remaining 20% or so say they are undecided or refuse to give an answer to these scientific and statistically accurate surveys.”
Sounds a lot more convincing to me than this vague 43-32 nonsense. As others have noted, most of Peden’s money comes from himself or his friends/family. He’s very well connected in that regard, but that’s about it. I highly doubt TX-14 is going to suddenly decide to vote against Paul this time around. It seems like some of the GOP leadership want Paul out of Congress and the presidential race, so that’s why they’re trotting out a hack opportunist like Peden.
As for the ‘Paul is anti-Israel’ comment… why should my tax dollars go to Israel, or ANY OTHER COUNTRY? I have no problem if YOU think that Israel needs our cash to solve their problems, but I would like to decide for myself what to do with the money. In addition, the idea that we should even be helping out other countries with foreign aid is insulting to those countries. Do you honestly believe that Israel can’t defend herself with her 200-300 nuclear weapons? And you really think Iran (or any other country in the region) is seriously contemplating an attack knowing that Israel possesses a formidable nuclear arsenal? I’ve heard of crazy conspiracies, but the idea that the middle east would gang up and destroy Israel without us being there to defend them ranks pretty high up there.
Feb 22, 2008 - 1:17 pm 96. DS Ward:Dear Dr. Paul,
Feb 22, 2008 - 3:50 pm 97. DJ:I just read another piece of pure drivel written about you. Please accept another $100.00 from my husband and myself. We would like to offer the money on behalf of Roger L. Simon. Poor misguided soul that he is.
Oh wonderful! The “grown-ups” have arrived to the Freedom Party! I love how these so-called adults use big words like “Paul-bot” and “Kooky”. Who needs an intellectual discussion when we can just sling mud, right? Well let’s try it out, as this is my weekend.
What’s it like being a fanatical Ron Paul hater? Obviously there is a lot of kool-aid in that haterade you little tools love. Does it make you feel bad for being a fascist sheep, willing to lap up every last drop of socialist welfare you can sacrifice your liberty for? Are you too far left/right to see straight with those Big Brother Mussolini eyes? Do you dream of a real Media, like Agitprop or something out of an Orwellian utopia? You know… War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Power!
Must be fun to blindly follow your “Decider” and do whatever he tells you, right? Let’s mindlessly drool to McInsane singing, “Bomb, bomb, bomb… bomb, bomb, IRAN!” over and over again. Yeeeeeehaaaawwwwww! Love doesn’t bring freedom to countries, our BOMBS do! Hahah! Good one, tools.
Are you a baby boomer or a naive college student? You know, the ones who need to be taken care with Social (in)Security or Socialist Student Aid? Funny how Ron Paul would make sure the “dependents” are taken care of, while letting the younger people get out. Oh how kooky! Omg… that is “quixotic!”
I love what this Neo-Con puppet (de)Penden(t). said about Ron Paul, how he doesn’t support the troops! Hahaha! Wow… couldn’t stop laughing from that gut blubbering vomit of mental surrender. The troops have given Ron Paul more money then the other candidates combined, but money doesn’t talk for brainwashed, American Idol, Faux News watching sheeple, who think Freedom should be spread by the barrel of a gun.
Oh no, that’s not all! Heaven forbid I say ANYTHING negative about Israel. That would automagically make me an anti-Semite! Right, sheeple? Who cares that WE give subsidies to Israel’s pre/post enemies with around TWICE the amount of money then Israel itself, right? Dictator-tots? Who cares that Israel could wipe out all of the Arabs with their 300 something NUKES. Pfft… if anything, you’re the anti-Semites cause you won’t let her stand up on her own two feet! Israel kicked Egypt’s tail, among other posteriors. Sadly, you ignorant apologists are just holding her down with welfare checks.
Personally, these fanatical anti-Paul stalkers are just fascist zombie sheep. They can’t even be just sheep anymore as the grass they’re grazing on has Iraqi blood all over the pasture, yet they are feeding hoof over fist! I bet they just LOVE Iranian children’s brains! Must be good stuff, since America is the fattest country in the world!
Wow… that was kinda fun. I feel a little dirty, like a childish attention seeker who needs “hits” on his site to help prop up his welfare checks. Then again, I don’t go around parroting the same thoughtless babble the Main Stream Media pajamasmediasmearDOTnazi fishes from.
Now I know why you guys do it at least — sad, sad, sad.
I will tell you one thing, it sure takes more intelligence to debate issues, rather then act like a petulant little corporate peon, waiting for his handler to throw him a measly bone. Of course, in the Fox World, the sheeple love their handlers.
Feb 24, 2008 - 1:46 am 98. Mo's Mom:DJ, your words…muddy irony-
to pick a few:
“you little tools”
“gut blubbering vomit of mental surrender”
“you ignorant apologists ”
“fascist zombie sheep”
Nice.
Feb 24, 2008 - 4:13 pm 99. Leyla:You must admit, Peden has a real nice dimple in his chin. If someone votes for him over RP for that reason, then I totally understand.
Feb 24, 2008 - 8:30 pm 100. Steve Moffett:You, sir, are a crackpot, neo-con toadie. Peden a ‘front-runner’? Show me the numbers — and I mean some credible numbers. Give me a break. Look at the fund-raising numbers. Look at the fact that most people in his district don’t even know who Peden is. You may wish for a Peden victory, but wishful thinking is not reporting.
Feb 25, 2008 - 2:59 pm