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		<title>By: Gordon Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gh, thanks for your encouragement.  I learn tons from commenters in this forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gh, thanks for your encouragement.  I learn tons from commenters in this forum.</p>
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		<title>By: gh</title>
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		<dc:creator>gh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon.

I am so impressed by your comment section that I will try to start reading your blog regularly.  Heard about you from Derb on NRO.</description>
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<p>I am so impressed by your comment section that I will try to start reading your blog regularly.  Heard about you from Derb on NRO.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Gordon, for your kind comments. Yes, you are correct that Kim cares not for his people. Somehow, somewhen, the other shoe is going to drop on N. Korea. It remains to be seen what the consequences will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Gordon, for your kind comments. Yes, you are correct that Kim cares not for his people. Somehow, somewhen, the other shoe is going to drop on N. Korea. It remains to be seen what the consequences will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roderick Reilly, many thanks for your sensible comments.  I agree with your negotiating strategy.  I encourage you to write widely about it.

I agree that Kim will try to keep his weapons, but he may not care what happens in some circumstances.  After all, is not always deterred by mass death, as we saw in the great famine last decade.  When he had the means to save everyone, he adopted policies that could only have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands--and perhaps millions--of his fellow Koreans.  And that is in fact what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roderick Reilly, many thanks for your sensible comments.  I agree with your negotiating strategy.  I encourage you to write widely about it.</p>
<p>I agree that Kim will try to keep his weapons, but he may not care what happens in some circumstances.  After all, is not always deterred by mass death, as we saw in the great famine last decade.  When he had the means to save everyone, he adopted policies that could only have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands&#8211;and perhaps millions&#8211;of his fellow Koreans.  And that is in fact what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;Roderick Reilly, yes, but time permits the improvement of all weapons. The time to deal with him is now, when his weapons are still in their initial stages.

And although we are focused on missiles at this moment, Kim does not need one to deliver a bomb. He can use one of his rusted merchant ships or a pickup truck&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;

Gordon, appreciate your reply. I do agree that dealing with a potentially dangerous adversary while they&#039;re still weak is a good strategy -- no argument there. I was pointing out -- perhaps not clearly enough -- that we have to be clear-eyed about what capabilities N. Korea does and does not have. I have no problem with getting tough with Kim Jong Il and his gang, but the world&#039;s leaders do, and they are being buffaloed into a silly game by N. Korea by ascribing capabilities to N. Korea that it doesn&#039;t have; as a result, he gets concessions from them even though they bluster about &quot;consequences&quot;. Wouldn&#039;t it make more sense for negotiators to sit down and tell the N. Koreans that we know they&#039;re weak, that we know they&#039;d lose a war, that we know their &quot;missile&quot; is useless, and we know they have no working nukes, so cut the crap, and oh -- by the way -- we&#039;re giving you NOTHING. Bye. I think we&#039;d be amazed and gratified at what would happen.

As to the &quot;rusted merchant ship&quot; or pickup truck, again, he needs to have an actual bomb, and not a &quot;dirty bomb,&quot; (dirty bombs are for terrorists -- he fancies himself a major player) but one that&#039;s an actual fission weapon. Also, he would need to be able to sneak it into a harbor somewhere. If he has a third-party try this stunt, he first needs to be able to deliver it to them. While Western, Japanese and Chinese surveillance and intelligence systems may have flaws and holes, such activity -- especially with N. Korea -- are monitored and looked for. Also, I don&#039;t think that &quot;Lil&#039; Kim&quot; would be willing to give up a single one of his nukes, because, again, they function as his &quot;blackmailer&#039;s Fort Knox&quot; rather than the bombs he may eventually posess being intended to ever be used. WHEN he eventually has any real bombs, they&#039;ll never leave &quot;the vault.&quot; THAT is his game. And forget the pickup truck. The geography and border security in those areas make that option problematic for N. Korea -- not impossible -- but not a viable option. Again, he&#039;s going to sit on any nukes his people may manage to actually build.

Again, by all means, we should work hard to bring him down, and DO let him know that WE KNOW he&#039;s weak and vulnerable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;"Roderick Reilly, yes, but time permits the improvement of all weapons. The time to deal with him is now, when his weapons are still in their initial stages.</p>
<p>And although we are focused on missiles at this moment, Kim does not need one to deliver a bomb. He can use one of his rusted merchant ships or a pickup truck&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Gordon, appreciate your reply. I do agree that dealing with a potentially dangerous adversary while they&#8217;re still weak is a good strategy &#8212; no argument there. I was pointing out &#8212; perhaps not clearly enough &#8212; that we have to be clear-eyed about what capabilities N. Korea does and does not have. I have no problem with getting tough with Kim Jong Il and his gang, but the world&#8217;s leaders do, and they are being buffaloed into a silly game by N. Korea by ascribing capabilities to N. Korea that it doesn&#8217;t have; as a result, he gets concessions from them even though they bluster about &#8220;consequences&#8221;. Wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense for negotiators to sit down and tell the N. Koreans that we know they&#8217;re weak, that we know they&#8217;d lose a war, that we know their &#8220;missile&#8221; is useless, and we know they have no working nukes, so cut the crap, and oh &#8212; by the way &#8212; we&#8217;re giving you NOTHING. Bye. I think we&#8217;d be amazed and gratified at what would happen.</p>
<p>As to the &#8220;rusted merchant ship&#8221; or pickup truck, again, he needs to have an actual bomb, and not a &#8220;dirty bomb,&#8221; (dirty bombs are for terrorists &#8212; he fancies himself a major player) but one that&#8217;s an actual fission weapon. Also, he would need to be able to sneak it into a harbor somewhere. If he has a third-party try this stunt, he first needs to be able to deliver it to them. While Western, Japanese and Chinese surveillance and intelligence systems may have flaws and holes, such activity &#8212; especially with N. Korea &#8212; are monitored and looked for. Also, I don&#8217;t think that &#8220;Lil&#8217; Kim&#8221; would be willing to give up a single one of his nukes, because, again, they function as his &#8220;blackmailer&#8217;s Fort Knox&#8221; rather than the bombs he may eventually posess being intended to ever be used. WHEN he eventually has any real bombs, they&#8217;ll never leave &#8220;the vault.&#8221; THAT is his game. And forget the pickup truck. The geography and border security in those areas make that option problematic for N. Korea &#8212; not impossible &#8212; but not a viable option. Again, he&#8217;s going to sit on any nukes his people may manage to actually build.</p>
<p>Again, by all means, we should work hard to bring him down, and DO let him know that WE KNOW he&#8217;s weak and vulnerable.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roderick Reilly, yes, but time permits the improvement of all weapons.  The time to deal with him is now, when his weapons are still in their initial stages.

And although we are focused on missiles at this moment, Kim does not need one to deliver a bomb.  He can use one of his rusted merchant ships or a pickup truck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roderick Reilly, yes, but time permits the improvement of all weapons.  The time to deal with him is now, when his weapons are still in their initial stages.</p>
<p>And although we are focused on missiles at this moment, Kim does not need one to deliver a bomb.  He can use one of his rusted merchant ships or a pickup truck.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nemrod, we know what effective diplomacy looks like.  For example, see this: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/disarming-north-korea-once-in-a-generation-opportunity/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nemrod, we know what effective diplomacy looks like.  For example, see this: <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/disarming-north-korea-once-in-a-generation-opportunity/" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/disarming-north-korea-once-in-a-generation-opportunity/</a></p>
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		<title>By: typos_R_us</title>
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		<dc:creator>typos_R_us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ah, million man army, right next to the South Korean capitol. You might want to take some care!&quot;

Wake up Blackhorse!  This is the 21st century. A one million man army just means a higher body count.  Those 1 million men are barely armed.  No C3 to speak of.  No night vision gear, no modern aircraft, no modern armor.  Very little fuel, ammo  or food.
Cannon fodder.  
We have nothing to fear except fear itself.
ROK has around 600,000 men.  Armed with state of the art armor, more modern aircraft, lots of food and as much fuel as they need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ah, million man army, right next to the South Korean capitol. You might want to take some care!&#8221;</p>
<p>Wake up Blackhorse!  This is the 21st century. A one million man army just means a higher body count.  Those 1 million men are barely armed.  No C3 to speak of.  No night vision gear, no modern aircraft, no modern armor.  Very little fuel, ammo  or food.<br />
Cannon fodder.<br />
We have nothing to fear except fear itself.<br />
ROK has around 600,000 men.  Armed with state of the art armor, more modern aircraft, lots of food and as much fuel as they need.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackhorse Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackhorse Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, million man army, right next to the South Korean capitol. You might want to take some care!</description>
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		<title>By: Roderick Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies and germs:

I detest Kim Jong Il as much as any of you, and am in favor of the N. Korena people killing and eating the little bastard along with the entire NoKo leadership -- I&#039;ll even supply the Kim Chi.

But I have to tell you: N. Korea has no proven nuclear arsenal. I have seen no accounts that confirm the &quot;nuclear test&quot; of a couple of years ago was a success. It seems that effort was an implosion dud that failed to cause fission. If anyone knows better, please let us know. And when you do, please tell us what happened to Saddam&#039;s WMD.

As to the &quot;nuclear-tipped missile,&quot; let me teach you a little rocket science: That pencil-thin rocket couldn&#039;t carry any warhead that N. Korea could possibly produce. Unless they somehow proccured a mini-nuke, AND found a way to make a working re-entry nose cone, they have no capability to deliver a nuke by missile. Got that?

Here&#039;s what that demented stroke-crippled midget is doing: He is playing a bluffing game that he has determined works against the West and Japan. He realizes that he doesn&#039;t need a working bomb or a working, delivery-capable missile. He can send our metrosexual, striped-pantsed diplo-idiots into a swoon by performing a series of technical-failure stunts. It&#039;s working for him isn&#039;t it?

And speaking of midgets, many N. Korean soldiers are only 5 ft. tall due to malnutrition. While a N. Korean invasion of the South would wreak havoc, N. Korea would lose this new war badly.

Amazing what a little knowledge done by gleaning and reading can do to put things in perspective, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies and germs:</p>
<p>I detest Kim Jong Il as much as any of you, and am in favor of the N. Korena people killing and eating the little bastard along with the entire NoKo leadership &#8212; I&#8217;ll even supply the Kim Chi.</p>
<p>But I have to tell you: N. Korea has no proven nuclear arsenal. I have seen no accounts that confirm the &#8220;nuclear test&#8221; of a couple of years ago was a success. It seems that effort was an implosion dud that failed to cause fission. If anyone knows better, please let us know. And when you do, please tell us what happened to Saddam&#8217;s WMD.</p>
<p>As to the &#8220;nuclear-tipped missile,&#8221; let me teach you a little rocket science: That pencil-thin rocket couldn&#8217;t carry any warhead that N. Korea could possibly produce. Unless they somehow proccured a mini-nuke, AND found a way to make a working re-entry nose cone, they have no capability to deliver a nuke by missile. Got that?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what that demented stroke-crippled midget is doing: He is playing a bluffing game that he has determined works against the West and Japan. He realizes that he doesn&#8217;t need a working bomb or a working, delivery-capable missile. He can send our metrosexual, striped-pantsed diplo-idiots into a swoon by performing a series of technical-failure stunts. It&#8217;s working for him isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>And speaking of midgets, many N. Korean soldiers are only 5 ft. tall due to malnutrition. While a N. Korean invasion of the South would wreak havoc, N. Korea would lose this new war badly.</p>
<p>Amazing what a little knowledge done by gleaning and reading can do to put things in perspective, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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