Kennedy Qualified and Palin Unqualified? That’s Just Plain Snobbery
The Washington Post's chief Palin-basher Kathleen Parker strikes again.
She does have two books about law but their primary author is Ellen Alderman. The Right to Privacy — the favorite right among abortion-loving liberals — opens with a lurid, verging on pornographic, description of an illegal strip search of a woman stopped for a traffic violation. This book and In Our Defense (about the Bill of Rights), both published in the 1990s, are written in a style that suggests no heavy intellectual lifting is required.
Well, even if you write fluff and have a name like Kennedy, Clinton, Obama, or Ayers, agents and publishers will come with big contracts in hand.
Liberals control publishing and academia through ideological nepotism. Then they cast those who are not published or tenured as not up to par in erudition. I’ve heard it over and over as an adjunct. A thesis on Paradise Lost and a dissertation on Walker Percy do not fit into such currently fashionable categories in English departments as “trauma studies,” digital technology, video games, or explorations of the nine different genders put forth by “cutting-edge theorist” Judith Butler.
Kathleen Parker, seeing that my book manuscripts remain unpublished, might question my “erudition,” as she would that of my conservative colleague, a history professor with a book with original research on a trial of American communists, who is being edged out at the university where he has been teaching for several years by doctoral candidates who teach “gender history.” These gals come to interviews with dissertations on such topics as cookbooks, medical attitudes toward masturbation, and a feminist writers group for junior high girls.
Indeed, it was Barack Obama’s authorship of two memoirs that vaulted him to a position of more “erudition” than any Republican, by the standards of the liberal media. But a quick read of those two tomes reveals a solipsistic insipidness that rivals those of his speeches, written by a twenty-seven-year-old, who, in frat boy fashion, made the news with a photo of himself fondling the breast on a cut-out of our future secretary of state.
Yet, Parker in her column calls Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau a “wunderkind,” a “golden boy,” engaging in a “little harmless male sport.”
What Jon Favreau wrote for the reputedly great orator Obama resembles what I encounter in freshman essays that earn “D”s for content. It was no wonder that Obama captured the youth vote.
Parker, as could be expected, was courted by the liberal media, including CNN, where she used the interview to continue her analysis, calling Palin’s performance with Katie Couric “catastrophic.” Parker also claimed a double standard was in place for Palin: her “histrionics” like “winking” and saying “betcha” were tolerated only because she is a woman.
In addition to being wrong about where the real double standard was, Parker was wrong in predicting that Palin would bring down the ticket. Palin, instead, energized the moribund McCain campaign. It was McCain and his team that botched things up. Yet, Parker’s analysis is that the “GOP has surrendered its high ground to its lowest brows,” the “evangelical right-wing, oogedy-boogedy branch of the GOP.”
Latin this is not. The slam at a particular religious group with such terms invites like responses. So does Parker’s double standard in failing to question the community-organizer presidential candidate’s credentials, or the vice-presidential candidate’s grasp of history that would have gotten him kicked off Are You Smarter Than a Fifth-Grader?
Ms. Parker, then in parading her hate mail from the column in which she suggested Palin drop out, tried to present herself as a bold thinker, brave enough to say what others would not. The “vicious” comments she interprets as readers’ “overinvestment” in Palin.
No, among those comments and emails from which Parker selectively chose, some, I am sure, are pearls of wisdom from readers who know erudition when they read it. Rather than being the daring thinker she fancies herself, Ms. Parker has come to serve a very useful purpose for those who control the media and the academy.
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Mary Grabar earned her Ph.D. in English from the University of Georgia and teaches in the Atlanta area. She is a Pushcart Prize-nominated poet and published fiction writer. Visit her website and get on her mailing list at MaryGrabar.com. Mary blogs at the TheLiterateCitizen.com.
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1. David Thomson:Caroline Kennedy graduated from Radcliff College—and that likely means she obtained a mediocre education. This is the ugly secret unknown to most Americans: the typical liberal arts graduate who attended Harvard, Yale, Columbia, or one of our other “elite” universities is normally one step ahead of being brain dead. They rarely have learned to think and follow a logical argument. Indeed, it behooves one to consider such an individual to be an idiot until proven otherwise. Please note that it was the graduates of these supposedly great academic institutions that are responsible for the current economic mess. They forced lending institutions to provide mortgages to minorities possessing poor credit histories. How dumb was that? Only those graduating from these schools with a hard science degree deserve instant respect. You can, it must be conceded, take for granted that these folks are among the best in the entire world. But the same thing cannot also be said concerning the liberal arts graduates. They are too often dumber than a doornail.
Dec 24, 2008 - 12:25 am 2. John:What panic one honest woman (Sarah Palin)in the hearts of the masses of hypocrits. Sarah Palin was in fact the most qualified candidate for President of the United States on both tickets. Barack Oba,a was in fact the least qualified. Sarat palin:
1. Governor of the fourth most important state in the Union.
2. Highest voter approval rating of any governor in the country
3. Head of a National Guard who’s a member of NORAD 12/7 Red Alert.
4. $19B state operating budget
5. $1.7B capital budget
6. CEO of 29,000 state employees
7. Negotiated international pipeline between Alaska, Canada, and Big Oil.
8. Mother of 5
9. Achieved her position without the aid of a famous husband.
Caroline Kennedy, Hillary Clinton are qualified but Sarah Palin is not. Indeed!
Dec 24, 2008 - 1:07 am 3. Typewriter King:So the Mademoiselle Caroline Kennedy may not be the rara avis that flourishes in penning the prose that trips a fantastic light in the mind. The cosmos needs more than wordsmiths, but also scribes, and a scribe she is, of the most exquisite breeding stock…
Dec 24, 2008 - 1:28 am 4. Typewriter King:/Christopher Buckley
John listed “9. Achieved her position without the aid of a famous husband.”
Don’t underestimate the influence of a champion snowmachine racer.
Dec 24, 2008 - 1:45 am 5. Tina Trent:Right to Privacy, a creepy and shallow exercise in vanity press publishing, does resemble Obama’s output.
What an unpleasant revelation. As this administration turns Washington into a giant liberal arts graduate campus, expect more of the same.
Dec 24, 2008 - 3:02 am 6. canuck:Lets hope she does get the position. They are going to dump in some liberal or another and it is better it be a total airhead like this. The Conservative world (not a big group in New York) will then be able to take at least one of the two seats in New york and she might even drag down sleazy Chuckie.
There is no way she can become anything other than a joke in the next two years and even the method of obtaining the seat will become disgusting even to NYers.
The next two years needs to be filled with the Republicans finding two good candidates. Rudy would be one, Peter King another. Where is Pataki?
Dec 24, 2008 - 3:34 am 7. Tony R:The left really love those women of theirs who only exist in the public domain because of their connection to successful men.
Caroline may as well join this freeloading womens club to further cheapen the work of the real women who have worked hard for genuine equality over the decades.
Pathetic.
Dec 24, 2008 - 3:57 am 8. quasar:What is it about Sarah? To read Camille Paglia on Palin then Kathleen Porker on Palin in mind boggling. Is it a pedigree thing, where a person with a non-Ivy League education can’t possibly be a leader?
If there are any shrinks on this thread, please weigh in on women’s reaction to Sarah Palin’s arrival on the national scene. To read Camille Paglia and then Kathleen Porker, boggles the mind. Dime-Store shrinks will do.
Dec 24, 2008 - 4:00 am 9. DavidN:The story that most annoyed me during the campaign was about Palin’s lack of experience, and the fact that this disqualified her for the Vice Presidency. As I repeatedly explained to people who said this, you can say she’s not qualified, and you can say Obama *is* qualified, but you can’t say both and retain any intellectual integrity. Obama had less than two years experience as a Senator, and prior to that he was a state legislator in Illinois for a decade. His supporters argue that his experience as a community organizer give him executive experience that will serve him well when he runs the country. Frankly, a reading of his first book shows that the community organizer stuff involved doing things that a president doesn’t do, and not doing a lot of things presidents actually do. The only argument I heard that made him sound qualified was the one that contrasted Lincoln’s political experience with James Buchanan’s…problem with that is that Palin has to squeak in also. Now we’re confronted with someone who has no political experience whatsoever…but she has a famous name, and that of course is enough if the name is Kennedy. She, of course, is much better qualified than all of us to be a Senator, because she’s from America’s royal family, and they *deserve* to rule over the rest of us, because of how special they are. Frankly, politics has turned from surreal, during the campaign, to just farce in its aftermath.
Dec 24, 2008 - 4:07 am 10. Vaughn:Let’s face it. This clan’s DNA has been severely diluted since JFK and RFK died. From a drunk murderer, to druggies, what have they given to society?
Dec 24, 2008 - 4:19 am 11. formwiz:The one phrase never used for Sarah Palin which would be the most apt is a “Self-made woman”, something you never hear about the many leftist grande dames – Madame Hillary, Princess Caroline, Feinstein, etc. While the lefties need the nepotism and favoritism to achieve anything – and this goes for a lot of men, also, Mrs. Palin did with courage, integrity, and her own abilities. She is the Dirty Big Secret the Left truly fears – that left wing Academia and politics have become more inbred and ossified than the Hapsburgs (or the Longshoremen’s Union).
And, to disagree with David Thomson, a liberal arts education is a great way to learn critical and independent thinking, it just hasn’t been used for that in about forty years.
PS John’s point 9 should have read “Achieved her position without the aid of a famous husband or father.” Don’t forget Paterson, Cuomo, et al.
Dec 24, 2008 - 4:28 am 12. R a Z o R:The House of Lords by blood right .
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proabortion
progay marriage
anti 1st amendment
anti 2nd amendment
anti gun [ the right to keep and bear arms ]
Dec 24, 2008 - 5:32 am 13. Gary Ogletree:________________________________________________
Caroline Kennedy ” the elite are are entitled “.
I was supporting the Princess as the least odious on the NY Gov’s list. Now that we know Precious can’t be bothered talking about politics in public, I withdraw my crucial endorsement.
Dec 24, 2008 - 6:08 am 14. Bilgeman:Ms. Grabar:
“This book and In Our Defense (about the Bill of Rights), both published in the 1990s, are written in a style that suggests no heavy intellectual lifting is required.”
I actually read “In Our Defense” back when it first came out,(and please don’t ask me why, because I’m not certain I’d want to know the answer even if I could recall it), your criticism of the writing style is spot-on.
I’ve read better constructed and more interesting paragraphs in TV Guide.
What I do remember is that La Kennedy chooses the case of the Morton Grove,Illinois, (THAT state again!), handgun ban to illustrate her position on the Second Amendment.(She holds, IIRC, the “collective right”/ “state militia” nonsense.
As the Supreme Court just ruled in the “Heller” decision earlier this year, such bans are Unconstitutional.
Kennedy’s written support for Unconstitutional laws should render her nqualified for appointment to a Federal elective office.
If Noo Yawkers elect her, that’s one thing. But simply having Paterson name her would be anathema.
Dec 24, 2008 - 6:17 am 15. Gary Ogletree:I blame James Madison for not listing “spoiled Ivy League brat” as a qualification for Senate and President. Sarah Palin is immediately disqualified for her stream of consciousness style of speaking. Jack Kerouac might have dug it but, hey, unlike Caroline, he hung out with real poets. Grubby ones that climbed mountains and stuff. Yuk. Palin is a clear threat to the election consultants industry. Besides, we well educated persons of quality admire women who have the courage to kill their own babies. We do not tolerate the murdering of innocent caribou. The solution is an amendment that spells it out: No hicks like that infamous self educated railroad lawyer from Springfield need apply for high office in the City of the Palace.
Dec 24, 2008 - 6:50 am 16. Karin:Let’s try and amateur-shrink/think this one through. What it is about the left and nepotism? Nepotism used to be terrible thing, something one wouldn’t want to be accused of. How did the left embrace it as something to be promoted and practiced without shame? I guess they believe that deep inside, people, themselves included, are simply powerless, helpless, and incapable of success. Achievement is impossible without a big brother, husband, uncle, or government to boost you up.
Typewriter King, did Chris Buckley really say that?
Dec 24, 2008 - 6:53 am 17. rocketeer:BTW, did K. Parker get fired from National Review? I think she only lit into Sarah because K’s husband had the hots for Sarah. Not exactly the intellectual level of NR.
Aren’t there any nepotism laws for any of the positions in government anywhere? These people have got to go. We’d be better off naming people to government by a random draw of names out of the phone book.
Also, I’ve completely lost all respect for Kathleen Parker’s opinion. Her obvious elitism is no longer acceptable to most conservatives. The Republican’s had better figure out who their core is, and it’s not snotty people like this.
Dec 24, 2008 - 6:59 am 18. Chuck Pelto:TO: Mary Grabar, et al.
RE: No….
….it’s caled ‘politics’. And the Democrats make it up as they go along.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Yesterday's 'Lie' is tomorrow's 'Truth'. -- Democratic political axiom]
P.S. And it’s ALWAYS the Big Lie…..
Dec 24, 2008 - 7:03 am 19. Josh:Amazingly, Parker throws in this personal attack on Palin:
” . . .though she would not have been “in charge of the U.S. Senate,” as she told a child who asked what the vice president does.”
Article I of the U.S. Constitution (the Article titled, “The Legislative Branch” that the wonderfully qualified Joe Biden thought was about the Executive Branch) states that “The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate.”
President – the officer who presides at the meetings of an organization (Google definition).
To preside = To exercise authority or control over (Wiktionary).
Certainly contemporary reality does not see the Vice President exercising day-to-day control over the actions of the Senate. However, the United States Constitution does state that the VP is “in charge of the US Senate,” so I don’t quite see how Gov. Palin was wrong on that one.
Although, we shouldn’t expect too much from someone (Parker) who doesn’t see a flaw in the qualifications of a Vice Presidential candidate and member of the Senate Judiciary Committee who can’t identify the relevant article of the Constitution covering his current or future job.
Dec 24, 2008 - 7:13 am 20. lynn:formwiz- I love “self-made woman.” I saw Parker talking once (ug) and she made a condescending comment about how Palin was so “confident”! What a horrible role model for young girls- a confident hardworking woman!
That people could say Palin was unqualified, yet Obama qualified, seemed like cognitive dissonance. Add to that “feminists” rabidly attacking a successful woman. I am an independent & as soon as this Caroline thing began, I knew if it is Palin v Kennedy 2016, I am voting for Palin. A hardworking qualified candidate who has so far done a great job vs a name? Seems like a no-brainer!
Dec 24, 2008 - 7:25 am 21. Jarhead91:I agree with canuck (except for the Pataki part – no more Rino’s please). Caroline Kennedy’s lack of experience, curiosity, common sense, and work ethic will guarantee that she accomplishes nothing as a Senator. The disgraceful manner of her appointment and the fact that she has never campaigned for anything also make it at least possible that Republican could beat her in a few years.
In other words, I vastly prefer her over any qualified liberal Paterson could pick.
Dec 24, 2008 - 7:25 am 22. Sandra:Apparently Sarah Palin still strikes fear in the hearts of left leaning politicos and feminists. Otherwise, why would they still be beating the dead horse candidacy of the McCain Palin ticket? Also, Kathleen Parker was an alleged “conservative” commentator – hardly a household name or serious writer – until she began conducting an all-out, hate-filled campaign against Palin. THEN people began to listen and pay attention. Parker used her platform against Palin to propel herself forward, gaining the nods of approval from the mainstream media. Alas, she was worthy- and Parker ensured her continued viability as a columnist through her Palin bashing. But why doesn’t she just come clean? She is just another liberal wearing a conservative cloth coat.
Dec 24, 2008 - 7:31 am 23. Tex Taylor:Concerning Sarah Palin, I believe the perceived degree of snootiness from the likes of Kathleen Parker and Peggy Noonan of a really simple nature. The oldest of maternal natures, in fact.
Mrs. Palin is the new babe on the block – witty, self-made and pretty. Kathleen and Peggy are past their prime, on that cusp of stiff, coarse hairs in the corner of their mouths, quickly approaching what happens to all women who hang around Washington too long – Hagville.
And because Kathleen and Peggy can’t bring themselves to admit that if Sarah Palin had looked more like Madeline Albright than a beauty queen, Mrs. Palin would have been an honored candidate, they mask their personal envy of the younger brick house and her adoring crowd in Washingtonian elitism.
Face it Kathleen and Peggy – your time is up. Step into grannyhood, estrogen help and sagging boobs with your heads held high. It’s unbecoming for the Washington matriarchs to swell up like a toad with self-pity that you’ve been bested in the beauty department. Time to put the journalistic pen down, save it for Christmas Cards and meet your wrinkles with dignity.
Dec 24, 2008 - 7:51 am 24. Heather:her “histrionics” like “winking” and saying “betcha” were tolerated only because she is a woman
I guess Ms. Parker never saw a press conference with Bill Clinton.
lynn: What a horrible role model for young girls- a confident hardworking woman!
Well, yeah–how DARE young women strive to get what they want in life without the mantle of victimhood and charity from men who’ve been browbeaten by feminists? Intolerable, is what that is.
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:06 am 25. seven:Caroline is qualified. She can tap the yes button, the no button and the present button. Obama was sent to write laws and he did not. Being in congress does not take a rocket scientist. Being a Governor is a different skill set. John listed a few of the obvious duties in post #2
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:11 am 26. Mudpie:Congressmen need to be available for lunch with lobbyists and available for junkets.
This is perfect because she doesn’t have to wear out shoe leather on the campaign trail.
Typewriter King:
Christopher Buckley is an excelent example of an
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:12 am 27. fear Obama:un-deserved family name.
But Caroline has something that Gov. Palin could never compete with.
$Hundreds of millions of dollars personal fortune. She also raised 65 million for NY schools.
New York needs money, Gov. Paterson said his state was cheated out of 600 million dollars when investment bank executives decided not to take, or lost their big bonuses due to the tax payer bailouts.
Gov. Paterson had to spend billions of NY dollars in the AIG bailouts.
I predict, I know she will be the next Senator from NY, and it is not because she is prettier than Hillary. $$$$$$$$$
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:18 am 28. fear Obama:MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL PJM WRITERS AND PRODUCERS
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Dec 24, 2008 - 8:23 am 29. Tex Taylor:There has never been a more undeserved family name than this: Ronald Prescott Reagan Jr., Air America
This poor man got shortchanged in every way possible. Never a better example of the recessive gene and Gregor Mendel would have had a field day trying to figure out this loon…
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:24 am 30. Sunderan Moses:All this chatter about who should be who is rather typical of Americans. Each one finds dirt on the other and then tries to bury them with it. In the case of Sarah Palin, yes, she was attractive, but only in looks. Her intellect was rather pale, as it showed on various interviews. Seems like, the Republicans can only vote for some body who is pretty, but does not necessarily have the intellect to make the best decisions when posed with one. They say that Sarah had more ‘Exective Experience’ than all others in the race. But those in Alaska – what do they know about intellect? May be whale oil, but that is just a greasy as their politics are!!! Sarah Palin having more executive experience than Obama? My God, what will the Republicans come up with next? Is it that’s why John McCain has had no connection with Sarah till now? If she was that brainy and intellect, why has not the rest of America – especially the Republicans — said so? Prove it NOW, I say.
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:48 am 31. Jack Sams:Palin got a raw deal, Kennedy is a Kennedy, what else need to be said?????
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:48 am 32. Mary Jackson:There seems to be a strong element of misogyny, and an even stronger element of social snobbery in attitudes to Sarah Palin.
Margaret Thatcher got the same, but she managed to tough it out, and I suspect Palin will too.
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:50 am 33. Pat J:All I have to say is HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE. I’ve enjoyed the discussions. I’ve even enjoyed Pelto’s memos. Well, sometimes!
namaste
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:55 am 34. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Heh
I guess that Sunderan Moses has been in his/her alternate reality since August of this year. Either that or just came out of a drug-induced coma from smoking too many colored crayons.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Dec 24, 2008 - 8:57 am 35. Martge:[Reality. What a concept. -- Robin Williams]
So Sarah Palin who was the mayor of a city and the governor of a state was not qualified for public office.
But Caroline Kennedy, who’s only claim to fame was being in favor or obama, the least qualified to be anything is. Gee can I apply for a reporter or commentator at the Washington Post. Since anybody and I mean anybody can get a job, at least I would present THE TRUTH.
Dec 24, 2008 - 9:00 am 36. ster:Thanks for the quote from the Constitution. When Palin said she would be in “charge” of the Senate… I immediately knew what she meant by that. That’s about all a VP is… a do-boy for the President, and to preside over the Senate. Period.
I could throw a brick at the TV newscasters everytime that laughed at what she said. Basically, she was right.
Dec 24, 2008 - 9:09 am 37. Donna V.:To my mind, Parker followed in the footsteps of Andrew Sullivan and Ariana Huffington. (Remember, once upon a time, the Huff was a Republican.) Sully was a strong Bush backer until Bush “betrayed” him regarding gay marriage. (”Betrayed” is in quotes because Bush had never, in fact, indicated that he supported gay marriage.) After that, Sullivan decided that Bush could do nothing right. Andy became a bitter opponent of the war he had once passionately supported. He once denounced the deranged crowd at Daily Kos. Now he sounds exactly like them.
And Sullivan was rewarded well for his about-face – hired by the Atlantic and invited to all the best Georgetown parties. If there is anything the media establishment loves, it’s a reformed conservative who has seen the “progressive” light. Of course, they continue to describe Sully as “a conservative,” although he hasn’t had a conservative thought in his head since around 2003. (In fact, he barely has a thought of any kind in his head these days, as his idiotic and spiteful obsession with Trig’s parenthood showed.) It’s so satisfying for libs to quote “conservative Andrew Sullivan” spitting out venom about Bush and Palin and “Christianists.”
Well, Parker saw how the cookie crumbled. Why side with all those uncool red-state folks when you can garner praise and respect from the hip people who really matter – the Kennedys, rich and liberal DC hostesses, NY Times editiors, CNN pundits,…,
A liberal writer who switches sides has a hard time of it. (I suspect Roger Simon has dropped off a few Hollywood guest lists since 2001.) But for someone who moves in the other direction? It’s all gravy.
Dec 24, 2008 - 9:34 am 38. Saltherring:Sunderan Moses @ 30 decries the editorial practice of finding dirt and burying an opponent with it. She then proceeds to shovel over Sarah Palin with uniquely brilliant epithets such as, “Her intellect was rather pale”, and, “But those in Alaska – what do they know about intellect?”, and the never-to-be-forgotten, “May be whale oil, but that is just a greasy as their politics are!!! Such brilliance….such diverse and sundry intellect, Sunderan! I’m certain the world shudders when your shovel unearths such gems as, “Sarah Palin having more executive experience than Obama?” May we all bow at the throne of The Mighty Obama and present you with the well-deserved golden shovel of wisdom.
Dec 24, 2008 - 10:15 am 39. cedarford:I don’t support Princess Caroline, but I understand how she is a Cult Goddess. Goddess worship is central to religion and mythology. It is as old as civilization.
The earliest carved images were of Neolithic Asian, European, ME fertility Goddesses. And Cults surrounding female Godesses NEVER celebrate them for wisdom – but for being the source of life, being right in their heart, which is all that matters. Goddesses are the beneficent ones, the authentic ones. They have the power to confer absolution on their Cult followers, who feel a compelling moral bond and love of the Goddess.
And they are always referred to in intimate terms…even today as Goddesses move from religion to the secular world of entertainment and politics.
“Our Blessed Virgin Mary”
“Wonderful Oprah, who heals and forgives us in our living rooms.”
“Hillary! Our Hope!”
“Our Sarah. Leader of Our Party. Denunciator of apostasy.”
“My Princess Caroline, as fertile and authentic as the Other Side’s “Sweet Sarah!”
What?? Sarah, the hero hockey mom who is everywoman, so pure and authentic? A secular Goddess like Madonna, Princess Caroline?
Of course.
It is the same stuff.
People defending the Goddess Caroline lead with the first step of Goddesshood. She is such a Good Mother and has done such a wonderful job raising them.
And follow that right on with how authentic Princess Caroline is – as just another average workin’ mom with the same concerns and same basic wisdom that everyday folks who need a wise Mummy cherish so. Caroline’s “Common sense wisdom” came from her Goddess Mom, who Caroline actually wrote a book about – extolling Jackie’s common sense wisdom and Jackie’s urge for America to get back to basic values. Like the Goddess Palin, Caroline speaks mainly by parrotting her side’s talking points…which are lapped up by her Cult’s followers.
With the Goddess basics dispensed with – fertility, good Mom, down home folksy wisdom…Godesses Palin and Caroline can get down to their real purpose in Western Mythos.
Dispensing Goddess absolution.
Goddess Caroline promises to forgive sensitive Lefties of all their guilt and bring them back to Camelot.
Goddess Sarah Palin has declared that America’s economic collapse is not the American public’s fault…as they all steered clear of ChinaMart and movin’ out of the Alaskan single-wide to triplewide with no money down.. No sirsee! You gosh-tooting betcha! And says that true believers in The Base are the real America, as pure in their hearts as the Goddess of the Far North is.
Cause hockey Moms and practical, authentic down-to-earth Manhattan socialite Moms know best, and they forgive us all. Caroline forgave America’s assassination sins…Cherished absolution. Goddess Sarah forgave Republican intolerance of non-conservative non-Christian Fundies, and greed…Whatta Goddess!
As for “intellectual heft” – Goddesses have little. Their Cults love them not for their medium-level brains but because they live the Mommy Madonna role and “they are right in their heart”.
Republicans who are befuddled how 70% of Americans have a visceral antipathy to their Goddess and her moral right to be President should sit down with Camelot worshippers on the Left. Since they are also befuddled how 70% of Americans do not love the Princess Caroline and her moral right, as a Goddess, to be a Senator.
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Tex Taylor – And because Kathleen and Peggy can’t bring themselves to admit that if Sarah Palin had looked more like Madeline Albright than a beauty queen, Mrs. Palin would have been an honored candidate, they mask their personal envy of the younger brick house and her adoring crowd in Washingtonian elitism.
Goddesses always have adoring crowds, and those that debunk them, like Noonan, are hardly motivated by jealousy over “looks”. Noonan also goes after the non-sexy Goddesses Oprah and Hillary! when they say something stupid. Or show themselves largely berift of the powers of cognition and of depth of knowledge when forced to go “off script” – Goddess Palin’s problem in campaign, and more recent US and Canadian interviews.
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John:
What panic one honest woman (Sarah Palin)in the hearts of the masses of hypocrits. Sarah Palin was in fact the most qualified candidate for President of the United States on both tickets. Barack Oba,a was in fact the least qualified. Sarat palin:
1. Governor of the fourth most important state in the Union.
2. Highest voter approval rating of any governor in the country
3. Head of a National Guard who’s a member of NORAD 12/7 Red Alert.
4. $19B state operating budget
5. $1.7B capital budget
6. CEO of 29,000 state employees
7. Negotiated international pipeline between Alaska, Canada, and Big Oil.
8. Mother of 5
Followers always want their Goddesses to be powerful. So they tend to puff up their female icon. Hillary was magically imbued with all God Bill’s experience and decision-making power though being 1st Lady. Goddess Oprah supposedly commands the Will of 22 million bon-bon munching housewives and 1 million homosexual males..
AS for John’s puffery:
1a. How is a state with bottom 5 ranking in GDP, population – and in the bottom 25 in defense assets – The 4th Most Important State? Do you refer to a poll of Alaskan schoolkids?
2a. Tiny states, population-wise tend to like their governors better. Same pattern with tiny town mayors over big city mayors.
3a. Goddess Palin is completely outside the military Chain-of-Command for Norad, missile defense, any national defense mission or response.
4a. No, Alaska only has a GDP of 29 billion, ranking 48th of the States and DC. It has an operating budget of 11 billion, mainly oil wealth givebacks under their socialist “redistribute the oil & gas wealth” program. The budget for actual gov’t is 5.5 billion. And “rugged, independent, Alaska” leads the nation in percent of population who are state or local employees – 16.6% – with DC 2nd at 16.2% and Nevada 51st with 8.3% of employees involved in Gov’t. Alaska and DC’s level of gov’t employees is more like what you find in Sweden, more than you find in France..
5a. A 1.7 billion capital budget for a small state like Alaska is fairly impressive, but remember that we are talking about Ted Stevens moving pork into that capital budget for things like “The Bridge to Nowhere” (Which the Goddess fully backed until the stench was too great).
6a. “CEO” of 29,000 people getting taxpayer-funded paychecks? The teachers and roadworker’s CEO? I guess that sort of metric would make Gray Davis, 1 1/2 years into his governorship of California, 22 times the CEO that Goddess Palin is.
7a. The “deal” the Goddess negotiated, is the one prepared 24 years ago by the oil & gas industry consortium of US, Dutch, British, Canadian firms and submitted to Canada and Alaska. Goddess Palin benefitted from conditions that blocked the deal…Stevens and others were able to beat back Fed Envilonmental obstructionists as energy prices went crazy, and Harper led a “pro-West Canada” government into power.
8a. Mother of 5!!!! Well, I know the love that Goddesses get from their fertility function, but does 5 vs Reagan’s 3 make her 40% more qualified, or 5 times more than the Clinton candidates, equally qualified to McCain given his litter size?
Dec 24, 2008 - 10:29 am 40. Mr Blackwell:Parker has predictably succumbed to the PEOPLE magazine fostered mystique, while knowing nothing about Caroline Kennedy.
CK takes all the soft and appropriate positions for people in her strata of inherited wealth. No wonder Parker prefers her soft, untroubled presence. And as Donna V notes, the rewards are so much better there.
Its so comforting to be among people that go to the same parties, never risk a mistake and start at the top economically.
But its a slap in the face to hundreds of men and women, in and out of politics, who have been tested in ways CK has not and who deserve the positon on their own merits.
Dec 24, 2008 - 10:39 am 41. St Ant Knee:DavidN You have it, sir. Key word, intellectual integrity.
Dec 24, 2008 - 10:42 am 42. Assistant Village Idiot:Agreeing with the general tenor of the essay and comments, I nonetheless have something to point out about women and power. Feminism was never about power for women. It was about power for certain women in the ruling class. (Or rather, the class that believes it should rule). Those women resented not having access to the tribal elderships of their own group. It was never about women in general having power, or questioning that the Arts & Humanities Clan should rule.
This is why actual qualifications do not carry any weight, and why it is perfectly all right for progressive women to ride the coattails of a male relative. The male relative simply reinforces the tribal membership.
An uncomfortable number of progressives simply regard Caroline Kennedy as “one of us,” and Sarah Palin as “not one of us.” All their other comments are rationalizations.
P.S. Kudos to those progressives who have broken free of this. I can do business with such folk.
Dec 24, 2008 - 10:48 am 43. Bilgeman:Mary Jackson:
“There seems to be a strong element of misogyny, and an even stronger element of social snobbery in attitudes to Sarah Palin.”
You think? I chalk it up to the idea that the Governor of Alaska awakens repressed feelings of latent heterosexuality in Democrats…and they don’t like it.
Dec 24, 2008 - 11:05 am 44. Paula:For me the undertow of this story is that there is a part of the Republican party which has it in mind to marginalize, mock, and eventually eliminate the social conservatives, esp. the Christian right, and replace it with full-on social libertarians.
I think this is Kathleen Parker’s main disappointment with Sarah Palin, and the overflowing support she inspired in the party’s base. On social issues, she prefers to see no difference between the two parties. Next election, I predict, will feature Christian-bashing within the GOP which would make even the left blush.
Dec 24, 2008 - 11:16 am 45. Mr Blackwell:Asst Village Idiot: touche.
Dec 24, 2008 - 11:25 am 46. Insufficiently Sensitive:Obama: His supporters argue that his experience as a community organizer give him executive experience that will serve him well when he runs the country.
Off topic, but you started it. His only executive experience consisted of being placed as chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge by his close friend Bill Ayers. Dang, isn’t that like being placed in the Senate by close friends like Rod Blagojevic or Pinch Sulzberger?
As Chairman, he presided over the distribution of $150,000,000 for the purpose of improving the performance of Chicago schoolchildren. Those vast disbursements failed to make any improvement in school performance, but most likely set Obama’s ‘community organizing’ cronies up in clover for the rest of their natural lives.
That’s the Chicago way – a big success story from the insiders point of view.
Dec 24, 2008 - 11:33 am 47. George007:Can anyone imagine the fate of America if George Washington,Thomas Jefferson,etal were Conservatives and the Main stream media was as leftist then as it is now???HMMMMMMM
Dec 24, 2008 - 11:34 am 48. Donna V.:Cedarford, you have an astounding talent. Most of us would have to feed my friend Flicka and Mr. Ed 10 pounds of prunes apiece to come up with the huge and steaming piles you deposit at PJM with no effort whatsoever. Are you gunning for Camille Paglia’s gig? Sorry, she does the whole mythological Goddess thing much better (and unlike you, she’s also right about Palin).
You are slipping a bit. You somehow forgot to tie it all with the perfidious Jews and Israel – but I’m sure if you think about it for about a minute or so, you’ll discover the link. Historically, psuedo-intellectual pretentiousness and anti-Semitism go together like, well, like pus and boils.
Dec 24, 2008 - 11:49 am 49. Sonny:#39
That was a wonderful analysis of the situation in Alaska.
I was wondering if it would be too much trouble to do the same for Barack Obama?
And, oh yes, please include how the Chicago politican machine helped in his campaign for presidency?
Dec 24, 2008 - 12:11 pm 50. cedarford:Donna V – Disappointed Goddess supporter.
It was funny when supporters of Goddess Hillary! collapsed in hysterics when she lost. Then the Palin supplicants, who saw, aghast, 70% of the American public express a visceral antipathy for the dim-brained Goddess of the Far North, the Redeemer of the Republican Base and 30-year old Right Winger talking points. Their sorrow on “Our Sarah!! losing is almost too much for the rest of us to bear…honestly…Ranks right up there with the bitter Hillary! dykes threatening to destroy the Democrat Party…
Now, seeing bewildered lovers of Goddess Caroline and the return of Camelot see their love spurned by the public not into this particular Goddess?
That would be a sweet iconoclastic Trifecta.
(PS. I am also convinced that the dividing line between women who are taken seriously in high places and Goddesses that are the object of simple adoration – is in their names:
Dec 24, 2008 - 12:33 pm 51. Brian Richard Allen:Diane Feinstein, Minister Helen Merkel, Maggie Thatcher, the Iron Lady, even the Iron Bitch vs. the Goddess adoration terminology “Blessed Madonna”, “Our Sarah”, “My Hillary!”, “Magnificent Diana”, “Beloved Caroline..” Always a familiar 1st name usage, and Goddess worshippers tolerate no descration of their icons…)
How telling, Gary Ogletree, that you interpret Governor Palin’s ruthlessly practiced radical honesty as a “stream of consciousness style of speaking.”
Are we so hypnotized by the lip movements of the masks behind which both our erstwhile political masters and their uniformly-Goebbelsesque and every-bit-as-malignant-mouthed media maties, Kathleen Couric, Charlie Parker, Catty Gibson et al, all effect, as to have lost our abilities to recognize the real thing when it comes along?
And if Missus Schlossberg is not to be appointed to oversee the continuation of the now decades-long schlurping of schlops from the public trough and into the war-profiteering Kennedy Crime Family’s coffers, who among that schower of schikkered sots will be schobered up to undertake that task?
May Almighty God save all of us from all of them all. And may He also save our beloved fraternal republic.
Brian Richard Allen
Dec 24, 2008 - 12:56 pm 52. Donna V.:Los Angeles – CalifUBAMAcated 90028 — & the Far Abroad
yeah, cedarford,now there’s a theory. ‘Cause nobody ever referred to Thatcher as “Maggie.” I’m trying to remember a time when I referred to Palin as “Our Sarah.” I don’t recall ever doing that, but since I’m a “worshipper” I must be mistaken.
Keeping shovin’ it, cedarford. You do have a knack.
Dec 24, 2008 - 1:17 pm 53. Donna V.:Opps, that should be “keep on shoveling it, cedarford.” That’s what happens when you try to put mascara on and type at the same time.
Merry Christmas and Happy Hannakah to all!
Dec 24, 2008 - 1:27 pm 54. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Cedarford, Wrong
Obviously, Donna V.’s comment has left a mark on the little c.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Manure Occurs.]
P.S. Especially if cedarford is around.
Dec 24, 2008 - 1:29 pm 55. Tex Taylor:Cedarford is one of those rare individuals with the ability to write dissertations and say nothing. It’s a gift really.
It’s like playing a 40 minute basketball game and never crossing half court while the opponents stand watching with both amusement and amazement.
Guys like Cedarford continue to dribble while the crowd meanders off from boredom, as he occasionally tries the behind-the-back dribble to entertain.
Dec 24, 2008 - 3:27 pm 56. Chuck Pelto:TO: Tex Taylor
RE: Cedarford
I’m suddenly reminded of that adage….
So much for ‘eloquence’…..
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[There is a truth and beauty in rhetoric; but it oftener serves ill turns than good ones. -- William Penn]
P.S. I offer cedarford as prima facie evidence…..
Dec 24, 2008 - 3:52 pm 57. cedarford:Sonny:
#39
That was a wonderful analysis of the situation in Alaska.
I was wondering if it would be too much trouble to do the same for Barack Obama?
And, oh yes, please include how the Chicago politican machine helped in his campaign for presidency?
It’s a great idea, and I likely join you in saying the press gave Obama a big pass on his Jeremiah Wright mess and his Big Bucks donors and his and his wife’s sinecures. But now it is largely academic.
Academic because largely once someone becomes Prez, their past record is judged by the public to be far less important than what they do in the White House.
Opposition Parties have fairly well learned this lesson after being pounded by the voters into crap for trying to dredge up crap on sitting Presidents before they became President. FDR, Truman, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and even Bush with his copious store of Presidential screwups – had zealous opposition foes go after stuff years, decades before they took the oath of office. And the foes only alienated themselves with the public.
Where your point is relevant is if some present scandal can be tied back to Barack’s earlier years or MO tries playing a Hillary! thirsting for power – (claiming she is a gifted lawyer and then corporate exec when she never really was).
Overall, though, Obama will be leading us in awful times where so much of America was built on lies that betrayed the Average guy. Lies that went very bad and wiped out American jobs and half their lifetime savings. Little patience exists for the 20% of Americans that want it to be 2004 forever and want to help Obama and America to fail.
Tex – Guys like Cedarford continue to dribble while the crowd meanders off from boredom, as he occasionally tries the behind-the-back dribble to entertain.
It’s called keeping the conservative Fundies entertained – while the Dems and RINOs are far ahead in the game – and just want to play out the clock in a manner that pleases fans who know the Good ‘ol Southern Base just got wiped out, again.
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Dec 24, 2008 - 5:04 pm 58. Bevy:Donna V = funny you talk about shoveling it when the Goddesses you worship are shoveling it right down your eager Mouth.
I understood the 1st page – but the second page of this article was too garbeled to understand.
I would put that Kennedy has published books BECAUSE her Mom was with Doubleday or one of those other publishers – and you know it’s very inbred these days … they hardly let any new authors in … it’s just not done.
Erudite to you too!
I think it’s appalling how the liberal press treated Gov. Sarah Palin – but she’s able to handle herself well with the best of them.
I also really don’t think that she LIKED Katie Courick and that was the main rub in the whole interview.
Katie HATES Christians and that was very evident in her treatment of Palin who is unabashed about her God and her Christianity.
Dec 24, 2008 - 6:51 pm 59. Bevy:God bless you all!
You have to admit that the Kennedy appointment – hey it’s ONLY a Senate seat … not like she’s going to be V.P.
Dec 24, 2008 - 6:53 pm 60. narciso:It’s a large state, it’s relatively lightly populated fifty years after statehood. An influx of workers for oil and gas development
would probably expand the population; but it might lose much of its distinct character. It’s a frontier state, possibly the last of it’s kind; What California used to be before it became dominated by big urban centers. The PFUD
is not socialist and don’t pretend it is so.
Governor Palin comes from a tradition where a person’s word is their bond. trust is at a premium, a gun is not something to be demonized
but a tool for self defense, and to provide for your family. You don’t know anything about Elmendorf AFB, or the Ballistic Missile Defense station outside Ketchikan. The fact that the state has been procluded from development of oil, gas and other resources likely reduces their potential GDP. So the big oil giants made
a compact twenty four years ago, but because Sarah, got the AGIA pipeline last year this
counts against her how again.
Those aren’t the real objections, One she’s a Christian, and she’s in favor of the State of Israel, her church was also at the forefront of the campaign against the Janjaweed in Darfur. Two, she has a record of fighting corruption and wasteful spending. Three , she helped force out of some of the leading figures in the Alaska political machine. Fourth, she thinks the war against Islamic extremism is important, it ties into her support of natural resources as a tool against them. Fifth, she supported the Georgians against Putin, going into a second
quagmire in the Caucasus in the last decade, Because of this and other factors, the Russians named her the Okhonitsa, the Huntress, a definite sign of respect. Sixth, she made mention in her conventions speech about the potential choke points that could deprive us of fuel in the future, Whether it be Chavez’s Venezuela or an attack on the AbQuaiq pumping station in Arabia. Seventh, she doesn’t just talk the prolife line she walks the walk. This is most likely at the core of Sullivan’s Trig truther derangement.
Now you may not be aware of these facts, because you relied on Couric and Gibson’s inane and edited interviews, snippets of which were repeated by Tina Fey; which really makes me doubt the schooling of students in Upper Darby Pennsylvania, susceptibility to gullible ideas like she’s opposed to evolution, seem to proceed
from this type of thinking. The idea that abstinence education is somehow responsible for her daughter’s pregnancy also proceeds from flawed assumptions.
Pedigree, in terms of geneology, she comes from a long line descended from the Mayflower, among them the Lathrop clan, The Kennedys are generally very nouveau rich by that standard.
Dec 24, 2008 - 7:40 pm 61. John:The Buckleys, whose youngest chose to under
estimate her, were Texas wildcatters less
than two generations ago, forced out by socialist elements in Mexico It’s true she didn’t come from inherited wealth, like the Kennedys or Bill Richardson, or the Rockefellers
or the Bushes. But is that to be the standard we follow now. with our new president elect we struggle in vain to find some achievement in the multiple offices he held, from community organizer and CAC foundation board member to state rep (which he won the first time, by challenging all the signatures of his rivals)
to Senate; where he won by default, unsealing
the records of the rivals in both parties forcing them out of the race.
cederford:
1a. How is a state with bottom 5 ranking in GDP, population – and in the bottom 25 in defense assets – The 4th Most Important State? Do you refer to a poll of Alaskan schoolkids?
~~ Alaska is considered the fourth most important state in terms of energy revenues and production, environment, and proximity to foreign (friendly and unfriendly) soil. NORAD is a strategic defense system located in that state and is considered vital to national security like in no other state.
2a. Tiny states, population-wise tend to like their governors better. Same pattern with tiny town mayors over big city mayors.
~~~ Nonsense. No credible data showing this assumption. Alaska politics is a partisan as any other state and there’s credible data to show that. Have you been asleep during the recent presidential campaign?
3a. Goddess Palin is completely outside the military Chain-of-Command for Norad, missile defense, any national defense mission or response.
~~~ Sarah palin is the Commander-and-Chief of the Alaska National Guard. Period. As governor she has regular security briefings unlike most state governors. This is necessary since NORAD is in Alaska and must be coordinated with state activities, both military and civilian. That’s a fact.
4a. No, Alaska only has a GDP of 29 billion, ranking 48th of the States and DC. It has an operating budget of 11 billion, mainly oil wealth givebacks under their socialist “redistribute the oil & gas wealth” program. The budget for actual gov’t is 5.5 billion. And “rugged, independent, Alaska” leads the nation in percent of population who are state or local employees – 16.6% – with DC 2nd at 16.2% and Nevada 51st with 8.3% of employees involved in Gov’t. Alaska and DC’s level of gov’t employees is more like what you find in Sweden, more than you find in France..
~~~ $11B is $11B and it needs to be managed regardless if was in the public or private sectors. Wouldn’t one expect to find a governor of a state managing state employees?!?! Unlike Obama’s “spread the wealth” where he will take one person’s money and give it to another, in Alaska the resources belong to the people of Alaska. Sarah Plain is distributing their money to back to those who own the resources. She is distributing a earnings “dividend” not “redistributing the wealth”. Look up Alaska state policy on resource dividends.
5a. A 1.7 billion capital budget for a small state like Alaska is fairly impressive, but remember that we are talking about Ted Stevens moving pork into that capital budget for things like “The Bridge to Nowhere” (Which the Goddess fully backed until the stench was too great).
~~~ Again, $1.7B is $1.7B regardless, and needs to be managed. She did that exceptionally well. Nonsense on the bridge, and you need to do your homework and get the facts straight. She backed the “bridge to nowhere” until she became governor and learned the facts and details of the project. Based on this new information the project made no sense and therefore she killed it. Give her credit for making the right decision based on facts.
6a. “CEO” of 29,000 people getting taxpayer-funded paychecks? The teachers and roadworker’s CEO? I guess that sort of metric would make Gray Davis, 1 1/2 years into his governorship of California, 22 times the CEO that Goddess Palin is.
~~~ So what, 29,000 employees are 29,000 employees and need managed as the state’s Chief Executive Officer. Any CEO will tell you government workers are the hardest to manage and motivate. She did an exceptional kob as manager and leader. Ask the employees of the state. However, unlike Gray Davis, she managed those employees effectively –EFFECTIVELY. Grey Davis shows you, not everyone can do it.
7a. The “deal” the Goddess negotiated, is the one prepared 24 years ago by the oil & gas industry consortium of US, Dutch, British, Canadian firms and submitted to Canada and Alaska. Goddess Palin benefitted from conditions that blocked the deal…Stevens and others were able to beat back Fed Envilonmental obstructionists as energy prices went crazy, and Harper led a “pro-West Canada” government into power.
~~~ In the end, Sarah Palin had to sit at a table with domestic oil producers, and foreign entities and make a deal. The right deal. How started it, the elements that transpired in the meantime does not negate the fact she successfully negotiated and closed the deal. Period. If she had failed, you would be criticizing her. She didn’t, so . . .
8a. Mother of 5!!!! Well, I know the love that Goddesses get from their fertility function, but does 5 vs Reagan’s 3 make her 40% more qualified, or 5 times more than the Clinton candidates, equally qualified to McCain given his litter size?
~~~ This is the root cause of “Palin Haters” The feminists hate the fact Sarah Palin could raise a family, and be professionally accomplished. The Feminists hate the fact she didn’t abort little Trig like 92% of them do, and she broke the 45 year feminist model. She is living proof that you need not abort your babies for the sake of career accomplishment and life fulfillment. She would have been fully embraced had she had an abortion. This is the core issue that scares the pantsuits off the Liberal Feminists. They therefore have to destroy her for she is destroying their bankrupt philosophy every day she is seen or her name is mentioned.
Bottom line is you made the argument for me. Just the fact that you responded to the items above, you acknowledge her accomplishments in contrast to Caroline Kennedy or Hillary Clinton. Just for fun, list a set of matching accomplishments for Caroline Kennedy. Final thought. I detect a tone of jealously in your blog toward accomplished, or at least prominent Women. Tisk, tisk. Just remember. What Sarah Palin, Caroline Kennedy, or Hillary Clinton are and do doesn’t make you one bit more or less than you are.
Dec 25, 2008 - 3:01 am 62. susan:i have been reading cedarford rantings for a while, he sounds more and more deranged when he talks about sarah palin.
cedarford don’t project your own mother failures on other women, solve your mommy issues to the doctor please.
Dec 25, 2008 - 8:06 am 63. james:John,
Dec 25, 2008 - 9:42 am 64. James V. Yardley III:And don’t forget that Sarah Palin got elected in the first place without the support of her own party machine; in fact, in the teeth of its opposition.
If you want to know what non-enitities like Caroline Scholssberg, and the people who love them, like Kathleen Parker, are really all about, I suggest you dig out your old copy of Juvenal. Any of the Satires will do.
Note to Katie Couric: Ever heard of Jevenal, darlin’?
Perhaps it’s just me, but the Kennedy nonsense brings an image I’ve been carrying around in my head into sharper focus.
The crowd, seeming made up in large part by “liberals” such as Clinton, Kennedy, and others of their mindset appear to be a case of history repeating itself. The feeling of self-entitlement, the appearance of dismissing those whose economic status is not as exalted, and who are not graduates of “prestigious” centers of higher education has a clear precedent, obvious to anyone who has even a slight knowledge of history.
They appear, to me at least, to be identical to the aristocracy of France just prior to 1789.
They might want to read up on that period and draw a lesson from how their predecessors ended up. Of course, the big difference today is that the beheadings would be on pay-per-view!
Dec 25, 2008 - 10:19 am 65. Horace Wells:The Palin admirers are out in full force with their usual anti-intelligence rantings. Of course, they support her cause they are reactionary dim bulbs like her. I have never seen such a bunch of nasty stupid low brows making themselves into victims with no appearent oppression to speak of. Is Ms. Parker poisoning your wells or stealing your credit card numbers? I guess you need some reason to feel victims, but face, 90% of the world, including most people with any sort of intelligence thinks you are morons. Grabar is as usual pandering to the no minds in her endless quest to rise to the top of the pundit junk pile. I noticed she joined the list of War on Xmas paranoid whiners on Townhall, babbeling about the imaginary grinches who stole her tree and presents!
Dec 25, 2008 - 11:47 am 66. Horace Wells:John:
Dec 25, 2008 - 12:29 pm 67. susan:Don’t forget she is a hunter too, all US presidents have to be a hunter. That is such an important skill to have. Honestly, I heard some caller on talk radio bring up that all important qualification. Moose have no fear of man so hunting moose is a little more involved than hunting cows. Of course, we all know that Palin is hated for her sex, race, religion and intelligence. There are no smart, white Christian women in the Democratic party at all. They are all stupid Black Muslim terrorists or demented Hebrew Bolsheviks. Caroline Kennedy is secretly a Muslim Man made up as a woman.
horace wells is another with mommy issues
being a hunter is a qualification for being president exactly like having your mother sleeping around with non-american foreign men is an “international experience”. I heard that justification for obama quite often.
But on one thing you are right, there are no smart women among the democraps. If they were smart they would have managed to reach top position without their men or families opening up doors for them.
Dec 25, 2008 - 12:54 pm 68. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Horace Wells
I wonder if Horace is a member of the same group I am. [Note: Click on my name.]
Indeed. Horace ‘projects’ his ‘anti-intelligence’ on the rest of US.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Dec 25, 2008 - 1:10 pm 69. Marc Malone:P.S. He’s probably a member of Densa.
Wells – You ‘misconscrew’ the Palin-admirers. We admire her because she’s a winner. Her story should be made into a movie. She embodies the traditional core principles that made this country great. She need not say anything. She lives her life according to those principles… and succeeds. She is simply the very symbol of the values we hold dear. She can simply stand on stage and we cheer her.
The left perceives this. They need to smear her, to stain her, to diminish her. She is living proof of the rightness of conservatism. Thus, the incredibly visceral response to her from the left. She is simply, “The Enemy”. Her mere existence is an existential threat to the left. She exposes the lies of their value-system. Parker is participating in this smear campaign, so we revile her and repudiate her. In a way, she is indeed attempting to poison our well.
Dec 25, 2008 - 4:04 pm 70. narciso:Marc, you’ve put it more succinctly than most, it’s ‘misconstrue’ by the way, I’ve made bigger errors by not hitting preview first. Horace, doesn’t even bother with facts this time, he does project one of the crazier? theories proposed by one former Gore advisor and premium moombat, who thought they were stealing her information. Parker, has really befouled her nest with her recent contortions, if she said she’s now more disposed to liberalism it would ring more honest and we’d have a smidge more respect for her. The news media has almost irrevocably contaminated the information well
Dec 25, 2008 - 5:02 pm 71. thegre8_1:in order to succeed; their award to Tina Fey indicates they can’t even tell the difference any more
Talk about unqualified look who is President elect. Voters are brain dead drones who sit hypnotized in front of the retarded TV watching the mainstream media. Name one smart Democratic woman. Diane Frankenfeinstein, Nancy Leprosy, Michelle proud Obama, Orca Winfrey etc. Caroline Kennedy can’t run a 7-11 much less be a senator.
Dec 25, 2008 - 5:16 pm 72. Chuck Pelto:TO: narciso
RE: Actually…
….many prefer the deliberate misspelling. It seems so much more apropos when dealing with the likes of Wells.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Dec 25, 2008 - 6:41 pm 73. myth buster:[Ever wonder why Oprah spelled backwards is Harpo?]
Maybe 90% of the rest of the world does think us to be fools, why should I care? Let them hate and ridicule us! I honestly don’t care if other people hate me. Jesus said we’d be hated for His namesake, so all the haters are doing is proving Him right. They call themselves tolerant all day long until someone tells them the truth and they don’t want to hear it, then they flip out and try to suppress you in ten minutes or less.
Dec 25, 2008 - 7:16 pm 74. TB:“The crowd, seeming made up in large part by “liberals” such as Clinton, Kennedy, and others of their mindset appear to be a case of history repeating itself…they appear, to me at least, to be identical to the aristocracy of France just prior to 1789.”
The problem is, James, that the noble aristocracy of France prior to 1789 was not made up of ‘liberals’ such as Kennedy and Clinton. The aristocracy was conservative, and would have most likely sympathized with the modern conservative agenda. As an example, look at the ways in which modern conservatives condemn the “evil socialists,” the democrats. Socialism was born out of the revolution of 1789, i.e. the idea that the state should provide for people who could not provide for themselves, that a “common good” existed at all, ideas directly opposed to the institutionalized conservative aristocracy. The aristocracy stood in the way of these ideas, much in the same way as conservatives sneer at Obama the socialist.
To draw a parallel between the conservative aristocracy of pre-revolutionary France and the modern Democratic leadership is ridiculous. It seems that your predecessors were in fact the ones whose heads were landing in baskets at the foot of the guillotine, so maybe you’re the one who needs to open a book and get informed.
Dec 25, 2008 - 9:59 pm 75. Chip:Caroline Kennedy is a throwback to a time of political monophonic platforms, while real policies were being hammered out in smoke-filled back rooms.
I doubt that Caroline will ever become much more than a token pedigree button pusher who just happens to be from a historically well known Democratic family.
Dec 26, 2008 - 5:35 am 76. narciso:Let’s just try to unpack that second to last comment, shall we. The clear point is that Caroline and before her Hillary show signs of an aristocratic caste system. People coming to power, almost exclusively due to family connections and without the inconvenience of the people’s imput. That’s clearly the case, the contrast with Sarah is striking on that point; but more on that later.
The commenter, evinces another instinct I would Jacobinism, or what some would call radical elite vanguardism. It was present in the French Revolution, in the form of Danton, Robespierre and Marat; who ultimately consumed themselves and led to the man on horseback, Napoleon, and for a time, the return of the Monarchy. Lenin with the Russian Revolution, Mao with the Chinese, Hitler with the National Socialist one, Fidel with the Cuban Revolution are all examples of this; and unfortunately I detect the same whiff of human perfectionism with the incoming administration. Too much indistinct
“Hope and Change” speaking of “negative rights”
in the bill of rights among other things give me that twinge. My family was witness to this tale, and it often doesn’t end well.
To contrast with this with Governor Palin, entirely self made, crusader against corrupt interests in the Snowy Arabia, willing to challenge her own schlerotic party elders, with a common sense attitude on too many issues to consider; although energy, foreign policy, constitutional rights come to mind. Not so long ago, we applauded the likes of her, very much in the Lincoln, Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt way. Now it looks we applaud a charismatic cipher, who’s never challenged the establishment or really make a mark in any of the offices he’s held. If the likes of her kind, fade away, under a cloud of vitriol ;they burned her church down, they hung her in effigy in West Hollywood, they made a porn tape, to try to slander her,they tried to deny that her blessed child was her own! and jealousy than ultimately I fear for the health of this republic, in the long run.
Dec 26, 2008 - 9:08 am 77. Anonymous:Governor of Alaska? Applied for per diem reimbursement because she “worked” from home over 300 days a year, even though the typical work year totals no more than 260 days, excluding holidays? Among other things, lied about her Bridge to Nowhere no thanks, or was it thanks? Inciting crowds to believe that Obama supported domestic terrorism? Yeah, Sarah certainly was qualified to be the VP of the Republican Party.
Dec 26, 2008 - 9:52 am 78. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Anonymouse….
….is STILL deathly afraid of Palin.
I see it as a good thing.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Dec 26, 2008 - 10:08 am 79. susan:[Hate is the [anonymous] cowards revenge for being intimidated.]
balls-less anonymous
“Among other things, lied about her Bridge to Nowhere no thanks,”
are we talking about the same bridge to nowhere that your fellow repulican wanted desperately throwing away tons of money? Yes it’s the same bridge. Don’t let facts get in the way of your stupidity
The per diem reinbursement were totally legit, care to tell us where taxpayer money wasted by brakko obama to increase the level of schools in chicago went?
That is a lot of money, a lot more than the palin per diem
“Inciting crowds to believe that Obama supported domestic terrorism? ”
yes, he is good friends with people who wanted to bomb the pentagon, too bad they were too inept to do it, do you have evidence that this is false?
Dec 26, 2008 - 10:18 am 80. susan:i meant to say your fellow DEMOCRAPS, promoted the bridge of nowhere
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/23/biden.earmarks/index.html
Although Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden routinely mocks his Republican counterpart, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, for her onetime support of the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere,” Biden and his running mate voted to keep the project alive twice.
Both Biden and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama voted to kill a Senate amendment that would have diverted federal funding for the bridge to repair a Louisiana span badly damaged by Hurricane Katrina, Senate records show.
so you deranged democraps shouldn’t even talk about the bridge of nowhere
Dec 26, 2008 - 11:48 am 81. Richard M,:The Obama team is probably still camped out near Wasilla to publish any negative news about Sarah.
Dec 27, 2008 - 3:22 am 82. Eugene Car:They are perhaps also stationed in Louisiana to keep an eye on Bobby Jindal. Barack has the media to do much of the heavy lifting for him. Obama is the typical Chicago hack politician who will do anything to get elected and stay in power.
Isn’t everyone making a fundamentally erroneous assunmption about Kathleen Parker: that she is somehow ‘qualified’ to properly evaluate and judge the life, career, performance and worldview of Governor Sarah Palin.
If her views are based on no more than antipathy to religion and social conservatism, then she hardly belongs to the traditions of the truly great conservative thinkers of Europe and America, such as Burke, DeMaistre, Donoso, DeToqueville, DeJuvenel, Voegelin, Kuehnelt Leddhin, Kirk, Weaver and last but not least William Buckley. They understood only to well that the decline of religion and the family would inevitably be accompanied by the totalitarian expansion of the State to fill the vacuum. Somehow I think these thinkers would heartily approve of Sarah Palin.
Dec 27, 2008 - 7:25 am 83. Annie:I’m the odd person who likes Sarah Palin, Hilary Clinton, Caroline Kennedy, and Peggy Noonan, but Obama somehow doesn’t do it for me. All four of these woman seem like serious, hard workers, unlike Obama-he reminds me of a guy in high schppl who skates by on looks and charm. I’m a liberal, but I feel as though there’s much to admire in all four of these women. I totally disagree with Peggy Noonan, but unlike Obama, I think she writes like an angel.
Dec 27, 2008 - 8:44 am 84. narciso:You got it Richard, of course the media serves the same function, witness the shameful performance of the Anchorage Daily News, the Times Picayune’s fantastically deranged coverage of Katrina (for which they got a Pulitzer)Parker clearly snapped, in a very visceral reaction to Sarah, and to curry favor with the new courtiers. Her subsequent columns asking for a news paper bailout, extolling Caroline, have been almost too good to parody.
Dec 27, 2008 - 11:03 am 85. Jan D:Noonan, has been extolling narrative and faith and American exceptionalism yet she can’t see it in Sarah.
Well Kennedy is being mentioned as a junior Senator from New York. Palin was being offered up as a Vice President. The requirements for each job are different. I don’t think Kennedy is qualified to be a Senator, nor was Palin qualified to be vice president.
But this article is comparing apples to oranges. Kennedy is not asking to be nominated for the VP post.
Dec 27, 2008 - 2:50 pm 86. John Burke:A lot of us Democrats are not enamored of handing Dame Caroline a high office based on her blood lines. I’ve been commenting on my blog about this all along, beginning with this post about her breathtaking aristocratic presumption:
http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/2008/12/dame-caroline-deigns-to-represent-us.html
Dec 28, 2008 - 12:14 am 87. Chuck Pelto:TO: Jan D
RE: [Slightly OT] Palin ‘Not Qualified’?
Then neither was Bill Clinton.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Dec 28, 2008 - 5:50 am 88. Chuck Pelto:[The Truth will out....but the Democrats won't like it.]
P.S. Let alone President.
And he proved it at places like…
• Waco
Dec 28, 2008 - 5:52 am 89. Jim Baker:• Sudan & Afghanistan
• The Oval Office with Monica
Don’t forget, Jan D, that Governor Palin ran for VP and tried to get elected nationwide and that Caroline Kennedy didn’t even vote in an election for the Senate seat she wants to be handed. Maybe you didn’t think Governor Palin was qualified to be VP, lots of people didn’t, but I have to hand it to Palin because at least she tried to earn the job.
Dec 28, 2008 - 8:27 pm 90. David S:@87
Chuck,
Care to elaborate, or are you just mouthing off now?
Clinton demonsrated his fitness for the job through his intelligence and accomplishments. Palin fails to demonstrate even a sliver of the intellect of Clinton or of Kennedy. Palin is a gift for democrats – the longer it takes for Rs to see this, the better for Obama.
Palin is not going to be able to join your favorite club, Chuck. Clinton, Obama, Kennedy and myself would have no trouble.
I guess it takes a weak mind to lead the weak-minded.
DS
Dec 30, 2008 - 9:37 am 91. Albert:I question your erudition not because I subscribe to some liberal conspiracy to keep you from being published (or getting a full time job, for that matter), but, rather, because you have some of the worst teaching ratings I have ever seen. RatemyProfessor.com might not be the most reliable, or valid index of professor teaching performance, but I would still be horrified if I had students who said so many negative things about me, as they do about you
Dec 30, 2008 - 9:41 am 92. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: David S on Clinton’s Fitness
David S obviously has serious issues with memory, long AND short. I say this based on the obvious fact that David S cannot remember the massacre of 84 men, women and children at Waco at the hands of federal ‘law enforcement’ officers shortly after Clinton took office.
Then there is the business of bombing Sudan and Afghanistan to no ‘good’ effect. On the day his Oval Office blow-job honey was to testify before Congress on his pejorative depositions.
THESE are things that David S obviously thinks of as ‘qualifications’ and demonstrations of ‘fitness’.
David S, is, in my honest opinion, either someone lacking any memory. Or worse, lacking any principles.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Dec 30, 2008 - 10:35 am 93. David S:[The Truth will out.....and David S isn't going to like it....]
@92
Chuck,
You have found three items on which to base your critique of Clinton, and offer no evidence that Palin is really qualified. Lest you forget, Clinton ended the federal deficits, reformed welfare, and provided much better leadership than Reagan and the Bushes.
Palin demonstrates a lack of intelligence and doesn’t have a clue what it means to serve the country.
So please, be my guest, make Palin the nominee in 2012. She’s young enough that she could go on to lose in 2016 and 2020 as well. Party on!
DS
Dec 30, 2008 - 12:54 pm 94. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: As I Said…
…earlier about Sunderan Moses (item #34, above), it looks like David S has also has been in his/her alternate reality since August of this year. Either that or just came out of a drug-induced coma from smoking too many colored crayons.
TO: David S
RE: Play Some Catch-Up….
….and re-read some of the threads about Palin after she was nominated.
RE: Murderous Bill Clinton
You have not refuted my allegations that Bill Clinton is a murderous person who willfully commits perjury, i.e., you agree that he was a crappy president and certainly demonstrated his lack of ability.
However, my original point vis-a-vis Governor Clintov vs. Governor Palin is that she was better qualified to be Vice President of the United States than HE was at the time he ran for president. And, you’ll find my arguments supporting that stance here on PJM on threads like….
• Sarah Barracuda Strikes
• A Natural Patton: How Palin Nearly Saved McCain
I’m sure there are others, but you can begin playing ‘catch-up’ with those, as I see no reason to burn up PJM bandwidth repeating what I said there.
Enjoy,
Chuck(le)
Dec 31, 2008 - 2:04 pm 95. Kevin:P.S. Happy New Year….
David….
Liberals, as always, blatant masters of the double standard. We are STILL waiting for you and yours to provide a single example of why Obama is qualified.
I suspect it won’t happen in our lifetimes.
Dec 31, 2008 - 6:54 pm 96. Chuck Pelto:TO: Kevin
RE: I’m Confident
…that we’ll see ‘documentation’ AFTER he takes the oath of office. At that point he’ll have the FBI and CIA available to falsify official ‘documents’.
And for those who doubt that idea, remember that the Pentagon and hundreds of military and naval officers around the world KNEW that the Gulf of Tonkin ‘incident’ didn’t happen the way LBJ and MacNamara reported it to Congress.
And at what cost?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. The answer is 58,000 dead Americans in Southeast Asia….
P.P.S. And THAT truth did not come out until about 20 years [too] later…..
Jan 1, 2009 - 9:01 am 97. David S:@94 & 96 Chuck Pelto
Chuck,
Bill Clinton certainly bears some responsibility for the mishandled Waco raid. Of course, botched FBI raids are nothing new (Ruby Ridge?) so I don’t consider this a damning personal failure of leadership. There are institutional issues as well. Your contention that Clinton’s perjured testimony regarding a blow job makes him a crappy president is laughable. We have since been treated to a presidential administration that considers lying about WMD for a chance to go to war acceptable. I’d rather have the sex scandal, thanks.
None of these issues address Clinton’s competence or effectiveness on the whole – they are isolated instances. Everybody makes mistakes. Clinton’s presidential errors may have caused some deaths in a few cases – but this pales in comparison to the errors that have followed his departure.
Your original point that Governor Palin was better qualified than Clinton (what happened to Kennedy?) demonstrates your own willful ignorance. From your own threads, it appears that you consider her status as Commander of the Alaska National Guard to over-ride all other qualifications. Of course, Bill Clinton had similar command authority of the Arkansas National Guard. More to the point of experience, Clinton had this responsibility for a decade before he became President, while Palin had been on the job less than two years before her nomination. Let me know if you have any other qualifications to offer for Palin.
Happy New Year!
DS
PS – You might want to read up on Obama’s qualifications as well, as you seem to be ignorant of the legislation that he authored as a Senator.
This is not counting the over 10,000 bills in the state senate.
Jan 1, 2009 - 12:23 pm 98. Chuck Pelto:Obama:
Senate Accomplishments:
Since entering the U.S. Senate in January 2005, Senator Obama has written approximately 890 bills and co-sponsored an additional 1096. Some are now law. You might want to take a look at his legislative accomplishments before you dismiss him – it will give you some insight into what is important to the president-elect. Obama is qualified because he is an extremely intelligent and accomplished legal scholar, with legislative experience, who understands that there is more to running the USA than cutting taxes and killing arabs.
TO: David S
RE: ‘Some’?
Try not to be a total jack-ass.
As the last GOOD Democratic President put a sign on the same desk Bill Clinton sat at…
Happy New Year,
Chuck(le)
Jan 1, 2009 - 12:40 pm 99. Chuck Pelto:P.S. Nothing you mention about Obama’s ‘qualifications’ involves ‘executive’ responsibilities. You know…something like being the chief executive officer of a state.
But I mentioned all of that in those threads I referred you to review, lazy….
Jan 1, 2009 - 12:41 pm 100. David S:@98 & 99
Chuck,
Most of your comments in the threads you sent me to were snide comments quite similar to those you offer here. If you want to see Obama’s success in an executive capacity you can refer to the Presidential election of 2008.
I suppose that without a military background, you will consider none of Obama’s experience sufficient. The fact is, he has spent a large portion of his life studying and working with the law, and has a superior understanding of the constitution. I consider this a very important part of the President’s duty to protect and defend our country’s laws.
You can rail all you want about how Palin is qualified by virtue of her governorship in Alaska, but she does not have the experience and track record to demonstrate an understanding of the laws of the USA. She has already shown very poor judgement as governor, which is not surprising given her experience in Wasilla.
Tell me, Chuck, aside from being the governor of a state, what would qualify a candidate to be President in your eyes?
DS
Jan 1, 2009 - 1:08 pm 101. Chuck Pelto:TO: David S
RE: What?
Your stupidity is showing. As Obama has never been a state governor. Indeed, as I pointed out, he’s never held an executive position in government.
But your short term memory issues seem to keep forgetting/omitting that.
You are behaving as a complete ass, compadre. And therefore not worthy of engaging directly.
Vaya con Dios…..
Chuck(le)
Jan 1, 2009 - 1:56 pm 102. David S:[I was not put on this Earth to teach those who refuse to learn.]
@101
Chuck,
Okay, I think your mensa membership may need to be revoked. I never asserted that Obama was a state governor. I was asking you to name ANY OTHER METHOD by which a person could achieve sufficient experience to meet your litmus test.
I’m sorry if you consider me a complete ass for ASKING YOUR OPINION. Your projection seems to be getting the better of you, old man.
You can run, but you can’t hide your refusal to address the question. You keep on trying to change the subject, regardless of the topic at hand. I still hold out hope that your claim of mensa membership is not just a farce.
What was that? You don’t have any evidence to offer to support your assertion that Palin is qualified to be VP? And you have no argument to support your assertion that Obama is unqualified?
I thought so. You are trying to use personal attacks to answer substantive questions again. This is the typical GOP response. When the facts are inconvenient, attack the messenger. Keep up the good work, Chuck. You are a wonderfully mindless foot soldier for your military industrial masters.
Peace.
DS
Jan 1, 2009 - 2:29 pm 103. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: David S & Stupidity….
…manifested.
I never said he [David S] said that Obama had been a state governor. This is just mere dust thrown up because he [David S] has nowhere to hide on this matter. And, as a former First Sergeant I once had the pleasure and honor of working with said, “Once the dust settles, all there is is YOU standing there as an idiot.”
Gads! I’ve known simple soldiers, mere infantrymen, who were more clever than David S. And they probably qualified for being Mensans as well. As opposed to that other unrecognized group of Densans.
RE: Memberships
He and a bunch of other mindless sorts. Unfortunately, the way the bylaws of the organization read right now, he’ll have to take it up with the AMC. Actually, I’d invite such a hearing. It would make wonderful copy for the blogosphere….moron—or worse—attacks mensan….as I see it.
However, I’m reminded, by David S, of the approach other totalitarians take when confronted with an obstacle they cannot ‘remove’ or ’silence’. The Russians/Soviets tend to declare they are non compus mentis, i.e., ‘insane’, just like David S is touching on here. The first Chinese Emperor had them all executed. [Note: I can imagine what David S would like, give the power and opportunity. He'd behave like Amy Alkon and Charles Johnson and Rachal Lucas and so many others who can't deal with 'reality', as manifested in someone who can recognize the 'sanity' that is REALLY opposing them.] There’s a saying that fits this situation almost perfectly….
The point here being that David S wishes he could ’silence’ me….by one means or another. [Note: If he could get my membership revoked, that would not silence me in this venue. So, it's just a manifestation of his sociopathic approach to 'debate'.....If you can't beat them, 'kill' them.]
I don’t mind David S spouting his ‘political’ approach. Indeed. I invite it. Why? Because it allows me a foil against which I can demonstrate the ‘nature’ of his ‘approach’. [Note: At the moment, it seems to be as I stated earlier in this comment.]
He’s ‘intelligent’. But not as intelligent as some of the soldiers I’ve lived—in my enlisted days—and worked with. And the allegation that I’m “a wonderfully mindless foot soldier” for my “masters” is an EXCELLENT demonstration of ‘projection’.
Why do I say that? Well, probably because in the early 80s, I stood up to my newly appointed battalion commander telling him I didn’t care for his screwing over my men: making their life miserable for no purpose other than his own benefit.
Would a ‘mindless foot soldier of the military industrial’ complex put his ‘career’ on the line in that manner? Or would he merely say, “Yes sir! Yes sir! Three bags full!”
RE: In Closing
In David S we have a wonder ‘lab-animal’ with which we can demonstrate all kinds of aspects of the TRUE BELIEVER, in the classic since. And, given the opportunity, I intend to take full advantage of this target-of-opportunity.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Jan 1, 2009 - 3:24 pm 104. David S:[The Truth will out......three guesses as to David S's 'benefit'.....]
@103
Chuck,
You persist in using the same GOP tactic of attacking the messenger – not a very clever response. You serve as the mindless foot soldier, defending Alaska’s commander in chief, while denigrating the wholly capable president-elect, as well as a past-president.
You still offer no evidence to support your assertion that Palin is qualified to be VP.
You still offer no argument to support your assertion that Obama is unqualified.
As always, as a good GOP foot soldier, you revert to personal attack. I have no desire to silence you. I keep returning here to see if I can tease any answers out of you. If you persist in this foolishness of personal attacks, and refuse to engage the topic at hand, I will need to rethink the practicality of this project.
I never insinuated that you were insane – although now that you mention it that would explain a lot. I merely indicated that I find it hard to believe that a mensan would waste their mental powers on personal attack when such grave matters are being aired.
Or perhaps, as you have said before:
[Integrity has no need for rules. As it behaves properly in and of itself.]
I’ll believe it when I see it.
DS
Jan 1, 2009 - 4:42 pm 105. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: David S & Message Traffic
If Fidel Castro came up and said Communism was ‘good’, despite the fact that Cuba has been a third world country for the last half century, would you not tell him he’s ’stupid’?
I knew you would.
’nuff said.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Jan 3, 2009 - 10:43 am 106. Chuck Pelto:P.S.
I did. But David is unwilling to research it.
We’re talk’n about REAL ’stupid’ here.
Jan 3, 2009 - 1:55 pm 107. David S:Chuck,
Trying to put words in another person’s mouth is still a personal attack on the messenger:
If Chuck Pelto came up and said the GOP was ‘good’, despite the fact that the GOP has been a third rate party for the last half century, would you not tell him he’s ’stupid’?
I knew you would.
Your irrelevant comment is a good example of the kind of idiocy perpetrated by the GOP for the past five decades. An endless string of personal attacks without basis in fact. You may not be a fan of Fidel Castro, but Cuba beats the USA in many ways. Calling Cuba ‘third world’ implies some ugly truths about the USA.
According to the CIA factbook:
Cuba has a lower rate of infant mortality.
Cuba has a lower rate of HIV infection.
Cuba has a lower rate of illiteracy.
Cuba also has better GDP growth, lower unemployment, less poverty, less public debt, a positive account balance, and lower military expenditures than the USA.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/cu.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/us.html
If Castro is stupid, what does that make Bush? You are really going to get out of your depth rapidly if you try to trot out more GOP talking points.
The bottom line is that the author of this article is incorrect to imply that those of us who have serious reservations about Palin are snobs. Kennedy is qualified in many ways that Palin is not, just as Obama is qualified in many ways that McCain is not.
So long as the GOP offers inferior ideas, inferior organization, and inferior candidates, supporting them is ’stupid’.
DS
PS – Fidel is retired; I don’t think he’ll be around for long. Palin on the other hand will be here for us to kick around for a while. Peace.
Jan 3, 2009 - 2:08 pm 108. Chuck Pelto:P.P.S….
What David S has failed to address speaks ‘volumes’….
Jan 3, 2009 - 2:36 pm 109. David S:Chuck,
Just tell me what part you didn’t understand – I’m happy to slow down and explain myself to folks who can’t keep up.
Peace.
DS
Jan 3, 2009 - 3:00 pm