LAPD Treats Gay Marriage Protests With Kid Gloves
As angry Prop 8 demonstrators block traffic and disrupt city life, officers are under orders to leave them alone.
Police officers have requested that marchers not block traffic, but when these requests have been ignored, police commanders prohibited officers from taking any action to restore order. Thus in parts of Hollywood and West Los Angeles, where afternoon commutes can be hellish on the best of days, drivers unfortunate enough to be caught in any of these protests have found themselves helplessly delayed as marchers flooded into the streets, even as dozens of LAPD officers looked on from nearby waiting for orders that never came.
Had the protesters organized a march and sought the proper permits, Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, LAPD chief William Bratton, the city council, the police commission, indeed the entire municipal apparatus, nearly all of whose members are left-leaning and sympathetic to the same-sex marriage cause, would have moved heaven and earth to accommodate them, bringing large sections of the city to a halt if necessary, just as they have done to facilitate large-scale marches on behalf of another politically favored group, illegal aliens.
It’s interesting to note that the Los Angeles protests have been confined to such liberal enclaves as Hollywood and the West Side, where Proposition 8 was roundly rejected by the voters. If the marchers were intent on truly facing their opposition, they might take their activities to the, shall we say, grittier neighborhoods of South Central and East L.A., where it passed by wide margins. I suspect that drivers in those neighborhoods would not be so impassive upon finding their cars surrounded by people shrieking at them for being “hateful,” and that the marchers would welcome the LAPD’s assistance in escaping to the more hospitable zip codes whence they came.
The judicial creation of same-sex marriage has thus far been rejected by every American electorate to have considered the issue, but public opinion, at least in California, has been shifting. In 2000, California voters passed Proposition 22, which enacted a state law defining marriage as between one man and one woman. That initiative passed by a landslide, with a 61-39 margin. Proposition 8 passed by only a 52-48 margin, but the continuing antics of the protesters are doing little to change hearts and minds.
The dispute now returns predictably to the courts; three lawsuits have been filed in the hope of seeing the measure invalidated. The governments of both the city and county of Los Angeles have endorsed this effort, and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Catholic who twice vetoed legislation authorizing same-sex marriage, has demonstrated what is, even for him, an astonishing elasticity of conviction by voicing his support for those hoping to see Proposition 8 overturned.
Until the matter is resolved (isn’t that what the election was for?), be careful where you drive in Los Angeles. And if you should find yourself impeded in your travels by same-sex marriage advocates roaming willy-nilly in the streets, don’t expect the police to do anything about it.
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1. California “burning” Explained « Mark Epstein:[...] California “burning” Explained “…in Los Angeles we have seen…that noble ideals can be trumped by the demands of politics…“ [...]
Nov 17, 2008 - 3:11 am 2. David Thomson:Are we already living under a politically correct dictatorship? There are obviously two sets of laws in much of the United States. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign committed major credit card fraud. And yet, where are the widespread demands for a U.S. Justice Department investigation? Does anyone doubt for a moment that if John McCain’s campaign behaved in a similar manner—we would never hear the end of it? The same, of course, holds true for anyone representing supposedly white values. Gays apparently can also flagrantly break the law. Be afraid, be very afraid.
Nov 17, 2008 - 3:51 am 3. Tony:“If the marchers were intent on truly facing their opposition, they might take their activities to the, shall we say, grittier neighborhoods of South Central and East L.A., where it passed by wide margins.”
Ha. Its the same thing with the feminists who will whinge and cry over every perceived slight to womenkind in the West but don’t lift a finger to help genuinely oppressed women in some Islamic nations.
They are all just stinking cowards at heart who just complain because they want things their own way and not because its actually for the good of society as a whole.
God bless the never-ending patience of decent hard-working middle-class Americans who tolerate these fools and provide them with a safe playground in which to rant and rave and bully.
Nov 17, 2008 - 5:06 am 4. R a Z o R:Ignore them unless the situation escalates .
Sometimes the reporter’s camera will magnify
and multiply a protest out of porportion .
If homosexuals just want love who is stopping
them ? If straight folks want to protect the
traditional marriage between a man and a woman
that should be OK too . Let the law state that a
civil union has the same legal rights as a
marriage . Isn’t the law already set up that way
in California anyway ?
Nov 17, 2008 - 5:45 am 5. Susan:I have to agree with the posters comments that this resembles the feminist movement. NOW is such a sham that uses the same bullying tactics. Where were they when Palin was sacrificed on the Obama pyre? Of course I’m thinking the Prop. 8 supporters are in such a frenzy because it infuriates them that there just might be some conservatives left in California. How dare they voice their opinion in an election! Sad and funny at the same time somehow.
Nov 17, 2008 - 7:31 am 6. David’s Blog of Common Sense » Prop. 8 Protests Getting Out of Hand!:[...] and disorderly protests in streets across America to voice their opinion. The problem is, Police Departments in some areas have been told they cannot engage the protesters. Quite honestly, [...]
Nov 17, 2008 - 8:12 am 7. gnatsandcamels:I voted for traditional marriage at an election in the United States. I didn’t vote for hate or bigotry. Since then, my house has been vandalized, our business has received hateful letters, a close friend’s bakery has been the subject of a gay blog blacklist and lockstep boycotts. My children have had the most vile statements and gestures made directly at them. All of this under protection of civic leaders. Whadda country.
Nov 17, 2008 - 8:14 am 8. AD Army:Typical of the homosexual community. Let’s legislate from the bench when we don’t get our deviant way at the ballot box. The real issue is the forced acceptance of this behavior, an orchestrated campaign since the 1980’s. Go down to Watts and protest…you Dorothies.
Nov 17, 2008 - 8:22 am 9. Bill Perron:If you can’t get your way then have temper tantrums until you do. Guaranteed these homosexual protesters never where disiplined as children, they are living proof “spare the rod spoil the child” is an actual fact. Spoiled little brats wanting to legitimize what most folks view as an aberrant lifestyle……. L.A.P.D. is forced by pressure groups to be politically correct, even when it is incorrect.
Nov 17, 2008 - 8:27 am 10. Ms. Attitude:4. R a Z o R: For some reason they want the word “marriage”….now when this article gets sent around via email to those who support gay marriages there will be post on here saying that a union between a man and woman doesn’t own the word marriage, that we are all gay-haters, that we have already ruined the word marriage with divorce, etc, etc, etc….
I for one could care less what you call it. But what I find appaling is that they are being allowed to break the law. The majority of voters in California voted. Just like we have to accept Obama they need to accept that. I wonder though, maybe the politicians are trying to keep this issue from having any martyrs or letting it get to the Supreme Court; so just let them throw thier fit and they will calm down soon….
Nov 17, 2008 - 9:16 am 11. Dr. Lumplevin:I suggest we create another alternate universe where we can change the definition and paradigm of every word, institution, and human tradition in the dictionary.
Those that cannot adapt to change must be consigned to the old universe.
Nov 17, 2008 - 9:35 am 12. rappleby:Too bad they don’t use those same “kid gloves” when they deal with PRO-LIFE advocates!!!
Nov 17, 2008 - 9:40 am 13. Rob M.:I’ve questioned this since the day the protests started. Anybody in L.A. can get a permit to protest from city hall, the hotel workers do it every year. For some reason, though, they’re not holding the prop 8 protesters to this.
Back in the summer of 2000 during the Democratic National Convention, I was involved in coverage of the protests and rallies. Many of the groups were responsible, getting permits, having their own security people, and maintaining order for the most part. Standing in Pershing Square surrounded by 200 LAPD in riot gear while some idiot burns the American flag really put it into perspective for me. It cost the city way too much money to allow these people to exercise their rights, rights that they don’t appreciate and have never actually made any effort to deserve. The next day they shut down a Rage Against The Machine show in what used to be the Staples Center overflow parking lot, (now home to the Nokia Amphitheater), deeming it an illegal assembly. Suffice it to say, it wasn’t nearly as nasty as some of these prop 8 protests.
…and to think, these are “liberals”. These are people who complain about issues like wasteful spending and hatred, but don’t mind perpetrating their own waste and hate. This is freedom taken for granted in it’s most blatant form.
Nov 17, 2008 - 10:06 am 14. NahnCee:That’s alright. Maybe if LAPD aren’t worrying their pretty little heads about angry gays and lesbians, they’ll have more time to arrest illegal gangbangers.
Yeah.
Right.
(Because in LA, hands-off the Mexicans, too.)
Nov 17, 2008 - 10:08 am 15. BMoon:A couple of years ago while in Boston, I personally witnessed the politically-driven agenda that many PD’s are forced into by their municipal leftist overlords. An ex-gay conference was being held at the famous Tremont Temple Baptist church downtown with its attendant gay radicals outside protesting. Cindy Sheehan and her gaggle of severalthousand or so protestors on the Boston Commons decided to join them blocking the entire street, facilitated by policemen, who were overly-friendly with the protestors, engaging in sympathetic banter with the mob who effectively blockaded the building not letting the participants out until late at night when the protestors decided to head for the bath houses and gay clubs for celebration of their “victory.” The message from the city government and protestors was clear – “Anybody opposing the Gay political agenda is subject to open intimidation, violence, and intlerance.”
Nov 17, 2008 - 11:15 am 16. Sunny:ATTN: TO ALL GAY ACTIVISTS PROTESTING THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION:
Hmmmm….What exactly are your expectations here? What do you really expect to happen? Do you expect society in general and/or the voting public to just say, in essence:
“Oh…We’re so sorry. You were right. We were wrong. Now let’s just change that silly ol’ law and disenfranchise those voters, ok?”
Do you not believe in the “will” of the democracy and the people? Do you believe at all in the election process? Going to court and challenging the will of the people only distances you further from your goals. It angers those who believe that our country was founded on the principals of democracy.
The votes were cast, the election is done, finis. GET OVER IT! Just as Obama was elected and there are millions upon millions of disappointed people on the other side who did NOT incidently, take to the streets and threaten, cajole, and intimidate people, it is now time for you all to accept the results and stop behaving like spoiled children. Concede graciously and quietly and then prepare for the next election, just as McCain voters have done and are doing.
You say that you want society to “respect” you, and treat you “like human beings”. Well, perhaps it’s time that you behaved that way…. Storming into churches, knocking down little old ladies, ripping up signs, and generally just making a social terrorist out of yourselves and your cause furthers nothing but contempt for what you stand for. It certainly doesn’t endear you to anyone….
Go back to your corner, take a warm bath, meditate, and get ready for Round 2. Perhaps you will have better luck next time. Otherwise, you risk losing the support of those who just might vote your way next time.
Nov 17, 2008 - 11:46 am 17. 11B40:Greetings:
It has long been the same story in the Frisco area where pretty much any leftist organization is allowed to disrupt the community at will without any significant enforcement or legal consequence.
The most outrageous example I have found, however, is the police presence at the “Up Your Alley Fair” where public homosex acts seemed to be part of the activities. Google the quoted title if you dare.
I grew up back in the Bronx in the ’50s and ’60s and when the beat cop came down the block flipping his nightstick things weren’t so complicated. You kind of did what you were told.
Nov 17, 2008 - 11:58 am 18. Spindok:Heh, lets try this again.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
What part of that is so difficult to understand?
Spindok
Nov 17, 2008 - 12:18 pm 19. Whitehall:How about those bicyclists in San Francisco that tie up the streets one evening a month? They even beat up some people who thought they had right-of-way in their automobile.
Nov 17, 2008 - 12:37 pm 20. rocketeer:I tell you what, if these city governments don’t stop acting like third world dictators and start enforcing the law, we’re going to end up with the citizens doing it. I’m getting really tired of these “sanctuary city” mentalities deciding that they can use the police force to further their political beliefs.
Nov 17, 2008 - 1:11 pm 21. Spindok:@ Sunny (16)
Yes I do expect the government to protect the rights of citizens to protest and ask for a ‘redress of grievances’ even if they are a minority, no matter how small or ridiculous it may seem to you.
I dont expect anything but equal protection.
Those who not do so ‘peacably’ can be arrested under the law.
L.A.P.D. have done their best to allow that without provocation to violence so far as I can see. They are doing their jobs. Keeping things cool with respect for the legal rights of individuals.
This could get much worse and I hope it does not.
I see posts here telling these folks to keep quiet and make friends. That has not worked well for them.
Personally, since ‘Steve and Jeff’ live next door to me, pay their taxes, and take care of their property and neighborhood obligations I could care less if they call themselves “married”.
This country has much bigger problems. I need ‘Steve and Jeff’ to stand and work with me and make this country as strong and prosperous as it can be.
Statistics show that Gay folks tend to be better educated, higher income, and very constructive and creative people. We cant afford to lose that now.
Spindok
Nov 17, 2008 - 1:52 pm 22. Paul T.:Thanks Liberals, you have created a group of people that are MORE EQUAL than other people…Homosexuals. The Homosexuals, Bi’s, and others(?) LOST THE VOTE…Get over it!!!!
Nov 17, 2008 - 1:56 pm 23. susan:You have tried and failed but you are a lot better off than you were, in earlier times. Be happy that you’re not governed by Shira Law….Think about it. You really have a lot to be thankful for. Rioting in the street is only bringing the hate and loathing AGAINST YOU. You really need someone intelligent to advise you on how Straight people think and how they would react to your actions. Whoever you are followiing now will achieve in turning BACK the clock of the MAJORITIES thoughts of Gays.
sorry spindok, your carachterization of gays smells of class clash
“Statistics show that Gay folks tend to be better educated, higher income, and very constructive and creative people. We cant afford to lose that now.”
Even serial killers are usually highly intelligent, should we grant them some priviledges?
Hitler was a vegetarian, didn’t drink or smoke, lovel animals and could draw very well. So what?
I do not see how being NOT married can prevent someone from being better educated, with higher income, constructive and creative.
It is pretty pathetic that groups of gays that vomited vitriol on established religions and traditional institutions now want both.
If they are so “superior” as you claim, I am sure there are million ways in which they can sit down with a lawyer and settle all their financial disputes.
Nov 17, 2008 - 2:38 pm 24. sean birnie:As a European, non-Obama supporter (believe me a very very dangerous thing to admit here), I am truly shocked by your censorship of my last two posts. Your delicate sensibilities remind me of Daily Kos. If you Republicans are ever going to win another election you are going to have to learn from the people who just trashed you and get off you puritanical high horses, it’s such a turn off. In Europe you are seen as humourless, boring, old-fasioned and, hey dood, you just proved it. Wake up, this is serious. You let the left utterly ridicule you and George Bush (a great President) yet, apparently, have some weirdo scruples that forbid you to respond in kind. I mean where are the hard hitting conservative comedians (Rush? Are you kidding) Hopeless. Just hopeless. Ya feel me, yo?
Bye bye America. I knew you would dump us all in the s**t, just like you have all your allies since WW2. Just as my democracy supporting Lebanese friends warned me (BTW all refugees now).
Yours in despair
A confused but true fan of America
Nov 17, 2008 - 3:01 pm 25. Spindok:Q.E.D.
Nov 17, 2008 - 3:09 pm 26. sean birnie:Oh, you published that last post without allowing your readers to see the two previous censored posts to which it referred. Are you takin’ the piss mate? Where I come from that’d get you a knuckle sandwich right up the bracket before you could say hope’n'change and oh we lost, what a surprise.
What a bunch of pusillanimous wimps you are.
Nov 17, 2008 - 3:21 pm 27. susan:spindok
tabula rasa
Nov 17, 2008 - 3:25 pm 28. Saltherring:sean birnie:
I, too, have had posts censored by PJM. These were posts that contained no profanity or personal attacks against other posters, but were (I surmise) a bit too point blank for PJM’s PC editors. So much for free speech……
Nov 17, 2008 - 3:39 pm 29. sean birnie:Thanks for the support Saltherring. Pajamas media is demonstrating exactly why the GOP lost this election. And they still haven’t learned. My posts didn’t contain any profanities either, in fact, if you’d had the chance to read them, you may have realised they were parody and found them quite funny.
Venga moderator! Grow a pair and post them.
Nov 17, 2008 - 3:52 pm 30. gippergal:As much as inequity and unfairness rile me, I’m not at all surprised at the political tack being taken by LAPD leadership.
It doesn’t take a Saul Alinsky, Richard Daley, Barack Obama, or other leftist illuminati to see what’s politically expedient in this situation. (Though the failure to properly direct traffic in a city notorious for its traffic problems is, indeed, eyebrow-raising.)
Unfortunately, the LAPD is setting a lamentable example for law enforcement in other areas of the country, like San Fransisco and Florida, where gay activists are massing and bullying protesters on the other side, requiring police escort to be given to the others.
The very pragmatic point I would make is fiscal: how much time, money, and manpower is being spent by police departments on these demonstrations?
Nov 17, 2008 - 5:14 pm 31. misanthropicus:RE #1/David Thomson: No, the Obama campaign’s financing will not be audited for all its frauds; yes, the McCain campaign will be audited because it has accepted public financing.
In case things are not clear, I’d suggest a re-visiting of Lilliput, Brobdignag or Laputa for a shot of normalcy…
Nov 17, 2008 - 5:57 pm 32. myth buster:Isn’t Laputa the place where Al Gore and his ilk are from? Floating above us in their ivory tower island spending all their time thinking up doomsday scenarios.
Nov 17, 2008 - 7:05 pm 33. Abhor Gore:Al Gore is from Laputa? Man, what an eye-opener. I thought he had always lived in his own mind, constantly muttering something incoherently about global warming or some such nonsense while listening to the echo in his cobweb-filled abyss of a brain. My bad.
Nov 17, 2008 - 7:55 pm 34. ak:Sean Birnie, you and some of your fellow Euros should give up on the humorless, old-fashioned puritan B.S. Really, you sound like asinine teenagers.
And the fact that PJ Media “censored” you is an exactly demonstration of why we lost the election? Yeah, that’s a perspicuous comment on modern American society and politics.
But maybe I’m missing something. Maybe I would’ve understood you better if only I’d had the opportunity to read your clever and hilarious parody.
Nov 17, 2008 - 9:16 pm 35. RAP:This is typical of the Left. If they win at the ballot box it’s Democracy in action. If they lose they take to the streets and demand the courts overturn the will of the people.
Nov 17, 2008 - 10:58 pm 36. Bandit:Hysterical in defeat and graceless in victory – hallmarks of the left. Someone needs to ask the LAPD what those batons are for?
Nov 18, 2008 - 5:58 am 37. BizzyBlog » Things I’d Like To Post About Today ….. (111808, Morning):[...] Jack Dunphy, “LAPD Treats Gay Marriage Protests With Kid Gloves” — It’s really a bad idea to let the 21st century’s first large-scale intimidation-inflicting and violence-condoning movement run amok. [...]
Nov 18, 2008 - 6:10 am 38. Wes:I find it funny that some many people on this blog talk about the gay community break the law and causes chaos, yet they support a measure that blanently goes against what our country was founded on, the seperation of church and state and the ability for individuals to do relatively whatever they want in private. And those who proudly display TRADITION as the reason gay marriage is bad, tell that to blacks who werent allowed to marry until the 40s, woman who were treated as property up until the 50s, hispanics and every other minority who have had rights repealed because of so called tradition!
“I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.” –Thomas Jefferson to Edward Dowse, 1803. ME 10:378
Nov 18, 2008 - 10:01 am 39. Matt:In this amazing phantasmagoria of bigotry, hatred, homophobia, and regressive thinking, I’m particularly stunned by the comments of one Susan:
That’s right, the gays are like serial killers and Hitler.
What a vile, insignificant little enclave you people have formed. What can it possibly be like to live in a country founded on principles that you in no way understand?
I give it exactly a decade, tops, before gay marriage is legal in all 50 states. You know why? Because civil rights and human progress and tolerance. You should look into that, you seething monsters.
Nov 18, 2008 - 10:43 am 40. Donna:Tony: well said about the lack of gay demonstrations in South Central as well as the feminists analogy.I agree with you completely
Nov 18, 2008 - 11:28 am 41. Heather:the ability for individuals to do relatively whatever they want in private.
Uh, the protestors are able to do anything and everything they want with each other in private with the possible–and I do mean possible–exception of fatal asphyxiation. No one is beating up old ladies or vandalizing churches over what they do in private.
Nov 18, 2008 - 11:44 am 42. Mark:Matt: The Country was founded on the principle that the people are able to govern themselves and not be subject to the whims of individuals promoting minority social agendas.I’m afraid that is you who don’t understand how republics work
Nov 18, 2008 - 12:45 pm 43. Brooklyn Dave:Well, we’ve had our gay activist protests here in NYC over Prop. 8 in California–in front of the LDS temple by Lincoln Center in Manhattan. You see, this whole thing over gay marriage is not about equity or justice even though that’s what they would love you to believe. At the end of the road it’s about demanding love, attention and approval by society as well as prohibition (legally enforced of course)against being criticized which in the activist mind equals discrimination. If same sex couples were solely after the legal benefits that come with being married, they would be satisfied with some civil union law—but they’re not. One could ask how are gays and lesbians being married or not going to affect the daily lives of straight people? On its face it wouldn’t. But if the agenda I mentioned above is followed, many aspects of people’s lives (especially those people who believe that homosexuality is morally wrong) will be affected. Why do you think that churches are the target of the gay activist’s anger? Because they are the bulwarks of disapproval in society. The object is to tie the hands and sever the tongues of any priest, minister, rabbi or mullah (let’s throw in a frustrated warlock in there for a bit of inclusiveness) who dare oppose their agenda.
Nov 18, 2008 - 12:45 pm 44. p.Johanna:Now as for the police handling gay activists with kid gloves–another phenomenon to be looked at. First of all, gay people as a group are highly educated and very politically active–I am not saying all are radical activists- but they vote in huge numbers, know their rights, won’t hesitate to bring law suits, and know how to apply political pressure. That’s why the police are going daintily with them—to avoid these kinds of headaches. And Mary I tell ya, the LAPD would have a closet full of excedrine headaches if one of these activist got the slightest boo-boo from a cop. Politicans are scared to death of these activist….especially ones who are on the down low. The Lavender Mafia is alive and well and will figuratively stick you with a stiletto, harpoon you with a high heel, or b*tch slap you with a baseball bat if you get in their way.
Ah, Jack Dunphy, another person misinforming people. Let me clarify something: Saturday’s protest was with permits and it was in a very secluded area of Los Angeles. The march in front of the Mormon Temple were directed by police officers. The few, and I mean few incidents that have been OVER dramatized by the media have been, in part, from straight people. What are we doing? Letting you know that we are not as minor as you think we are. The campaign on YES misinformed people, which by the way, was funded by people that do not even live in California. It is amazing how you people sit there ranting and raving FOR INTOLERANCE. You should be Ashamed of yourselves. Evolve and also on that not, inform yourselves and don’t let your bigotry misinform and mislead others.
Nov 18, 2008 - 12:52 pm 45. el polacko:liberal judges ?! where the heck are you getting that idea ? the california supremes happen to be republicans, appointed by republican governors. they did not find “for gay marriage”, they found that the complaintants were being denied under the state’s equal protection clause… which is the same issue they will have to wrestle with in determining the constitutionality of prop 8. that’s what the judicial branch of government is FOR. as for the cops and the demonstrators, a little civil disobedience from folks who have been stripped of their rights is to be expected and the cops are wise to not make a huge deal out of it as long as they are not endangering life or property.
Nov 18, 2008 - 1:45 pm 46. Donna V.:Sheesh, sean birnie, get over yourself. Occasionally, I’ve posted (or thought I posted) comments at PJ and when I checked back for responses, my comments were nowhere to be found. Although I was a bit miffed that the world had been deprived of my great insights, I did not go batsh*t crazy and assume I was being “censored.” I figured that there might have been some sort of technical glitch, and it could have been my fault as much as PJM’s. (I have found that “do not write blog comments after 3 glasses of wine” is a good rule – that’s when I start writing epic novels and then forgetting to click on “submit.” Sometimes it takes forever for a comment to be posted and sometimes it goes up right away. I don’t take it personally, for God’s sake.)
So many offensive, insulting, and moronic lefties post here that it’s clear that PJM (unlike Kos and HuffPo) is not censoring anybody. If so, the censor needs to be booted – he/she isn’t very competent.
At any rate, it’s only a damn comment on a blog. People read it, agree or disagree, answer you or not, and scroll on. I can’t believe you’re saying “Goodbye” to a nation of 300 million because of 2 PJM comments. Jeez, we’ll have to fly the flag at half mast tomorrow due to this national tragedy.;-)
Nov 18, 2008 - 5:03 pm 47. Gay Marriage: A Subject Beyond Debate | Mediacondom.com:[...] Pajamasmedia Reports HERE [...]
Nov 18, 2008 - 7:43 pm 48. Arrested for “erotic driving”? « Mark Epstein:[...] Using a typical ploy from the leftist playbook (accuse your opponent of what you are doing e.g., being “bullies”), the gays, and their totalitarianesque accomplices on the left, routinely play the sympathy card for a group of Americans who do not deserve compassion, as evidenced by their outrageous and injurious conduct toward other members of our society. Conduct those sworn to protect us passively watch with inaction. [...]
Nov 19, 2008 - 3:13 am 49. Rose from Ohio:p.Johanna …
Your post was a great example of being your own worst enemy. Had I had the opportunity to vote, I would have supported gay marriage at the polls. You did nothing to convince to your cause if given the opportunity to vote in the future.
I am not going to allow your religous bigotry to go unchallenged. While I know that it makes a much better story to say that the funding came from outside California, it is at best misinformed and potentially simply a flat out lie.
Had you chosen to tell the actual truth, you would have had a much better argument. As is, you come across as pretty hypocritical.
Did some of the pro-Prop 8 funding come from outside California? Undoubtedly – just as some of the no-Prop 8 funding came from outside California.
Don’t lecture others on misinformation while remaining misinformed yourself and expect to be taken seriously.
Nov 19, 2008 - 4:52 am 50. Martin Luther:Well as far as where and when gay people demonstrate for their civil rights is not important, what is important is that they get out there and get the attention of the media. Look what has happened everyone is talking about this issue! Even those of you that don’t belive in equal rights for gays are talking and bloging about this! The purpose of the demostrations is to let everyone know that the gay community is fed up and they are now demanding the same rights that other tax paying citizens enjoy.
Nov 19, 2008 - 12:33 pm 51. Steynian 286 « Free Canuckistan!:[...] SPECIAL TREATMENT: “As angry Prop 8 demonstrators block traffic and disrupt city life, officers are under orders to leave them alone“; TIME: What Happens If You’re on the Gay “Enemies List”; California [...]
Nov 19, 2008 - 2:10 pm 52. mnotaro:I am shocked to see such hatred and frightening, malicious anger from a group of people who want to be treated just like everyone else and who just want to be accepted and don’t want to be discriminated against…but isn’t that what they are doing to the Prop 8 supporters? The liberal illuminati are all about civil rights–only when it fits in with their agenda, and if it doesn’t then the right to have an opinion is apparently not allowed to be heard?!!!
Nov 20, 2008 - 10:59 am 53. Paul Welssen:Dear my American Friends:
For the sake of the rest of the world, please learn to extinguish human right violations in your own country as well as around the world.. Your government and corporate corruptions have caused enough suffering for your own people as well as the rest of the world. Allow people to love and to be loved because in a society that almost 60% of marriages failed, you should encourage love & marriage to grow not to extinguish it. Millions of US children are still in orphanage but people who reached out to offer them a home were not allowed to do so because of their sexual orientations.
I’m a straight Caucasian male, but that doesn’t give me the privilege to discriminate against other human beings for who they are. If you ever wonder why people had to protest throughout the U.S. history, you’ll realize that it’s all about fairness and unless you acknowledge & appreciate that simple ideology, how do you expect to improve your country, your economy, and your international relations. One can live by the words of mass media but unless one can think independently, the world is just an illusion and one will never be free even though he/she thinks he/she is free. The next time your president has a tough time getting through human right issues around the world, we probably will shed a tear for his efforts knowing that the world has seen all the unfairness in his own country.
You’re welcome to reply as you wish but remember unless fairness and love exist, people will never be free and the cost of maintaining such society will always be a huge burden on its taxpayers. So unless you want to continue to enjoy your growing national debt burden for generations to come as you have inherited the same from the previous generations due to their narrowed mindedness, you’re welcome to let history repeat itself.
Just a friendly reminder from your European friends.
Nov 20, 2008 - 4:05 pm 54. Barry 0351:The Rodney King syndrome.
Nov 21, 2008 - 8:23 am 55. Rachel:Do nothing and receive no blame.
The citizens of California have gotten what they sought and now receive what they richly deserve.
We are a democracy and proposition 8 was defeated. That does not entitle people to run out in the streets and cause problems. The Californians have gotten what they voted for. No Gay Marriages. Leave it alone. If you don’t like the system, pack up and leave. I’m sure there’s alot of places in Africa, the middle east and all that wont bother you. They wonder why the LAPD cannot do their job. Thank the liberal lawyers that have banned to not uphold the victims just the wheels that squeek the most and the bullys.
Nov 21, 2008 - 12:04 pm 56. Atomant:Your dinosaurs..buncha turds stuck on Aristotlean logic and sour grapes..lol, have fun missing the bus to reality you f*cktard right-wing losers…Yippeeeeeee!!!!
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