Comments on: Let’s Debate, Not Dehumanize

By: Bush, Obama, & Ghosts of Hate « The Sassy Tn’T PoLITicallY InCorrect

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:51:19 +0000

[...] that ideology trumped having a decent respect for another’s humanity. I wrote about that a little here: Thus, George W. Bush is “Chimpy McHitler.” Hillary Clinton is “a pig in a pantsuit.” [...]

By: Bush, Obama, & Ghosts | The Anchoress

Bush, Obama, & Ghosts | The Anchoress — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:02:49 +0000

[...] ideology trumped having a decent respect for another’s humanity. I wrote about that a little here: Thus, George W. Bush is “Chimpy McHitler.” Hillary Clinton is “a pig in a pantsuit.” [...]

By: McCain Volunteer attacked & maimed? | The Anchoress

McCain Volunteer attacked & maimed? | The Anchoress — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:56:34 +0000

[...] then we need to seriously look at how we – as a nation – have learned (with the help of the press) to dehumanize one another to a new and frightening [...]

By: Sept 16; Vespers | The Anchoress

Sept 16; Vespers | The Anchoress — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:27:16 +0000

[...] times are also the times I find myself most tempted to forget about the humanity of the politicians we write about, and that is where I try really hard not to [...]

By: hp

hp — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:54:03 +0000

had someone called me a half-hearted, low blow name on a thread recently. they did it to do exactly that. dehumanize me in their eyes and i recognized it as such immediately.

what it told me was that i was successfully holding my own pitch after pitch as they were trying all the while to bully their opinion down my throat.

did the best thing i could after reading what they called me. turned cheek and went to another thread where they were not.

too much to do. too little time to do it in so that kind of sandbox play is out.

about them, i will say: they are true to their convictions.

By: Lex Rationis

Lex Rationis — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:09:58 +0000

Great Article!

By: Charles Giacometti

Charles Giacometti — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:46:33 +0000

As far as saying something nice, that is superficial. Let me say this instead. I have a deep and abiding respect for many Republicans, including McCain. He is not the enemy. He is not un-American. Indeed, he is a war hero, a very effective senator, and a person to be admired. He won’t get my vote, of course, but that’s the name of the game.

By: Charles Giacometti

Charles Giacometti — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:41:51 +0000

Actually notropis, there is absolutely no question of victimhood here–a wingnut terrorist went into a liberal church and slaughtered as many people as he could. Fortunately, there were courageous people who stopped his suicide attack before he could kill more.

What Elizabeth sloppily attempted to do is equate the stories that he hated Christians with the reality that he specifically targeted religious liberals. I am sure she and others (Cornfed Yankee) would love to believe that. They would like to claim victimhood where there is no basis. (Freud would have a field day with that–why wingnuts burst into flames and cry victim when their terrorist goes on a rampage.)

It’s crystal clear whom your terrorist was targeting.

I have mentioned this elsewhere. It would be instructive for people to look at what the Boston pro-life and pro-choice communities did in the wake of the John Salvi murders (he shot up two abortion clinics, killing 2 or 3 people). They quietly sat down and talked about the issue. They lowered the temperature. Elizabeth is vaguely making the same point, but her bias trips her up. The difference is that in the Salvi case the pro-life people acknowledged at the start that they helped create the monster. They didn’t bizarrely claim he was trying to slaughter Christians. Just like a 12 step program–you start by admitting you have a problem.

The only question is whether the wingnuts can accept that they have blood on their hands. Based on your anonymous and snarky response, I can tell that you are too much of a coward to deal with that reality. That is only your problem, not mine.

By: notropis

notropis — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:57:45 +0000

So, Charlie, I guess you’d qualify as one on the left who staked out a claim of victimhood and identified those on the right as the true culprits upon whom blame and condemnation must rain down.

Seems like Elizabeth got it exactly right.

What was that nice thing you were going to say about someone you disagreed with, again? Or are you exempt from that, since only right-wing hate speech leads to violence?

By: Charles Giacometti

Charles Giacometti — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:04:53 +0000

Except, jbl, the “initial report” was one random neighbor and the real reports were from, well, the police, you know.

Like I said, Adkisson is a terrorist for your side. Deal with it.