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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 Troll Feeder - Love your moniker!  Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 Troll Feeder &#8211; Love your moniker!  Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Troll Feeder</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/lies-damned-lies-and-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-196530</link>
		<dc:creator>Troll Feeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Malone:

I disagree with your assertion that the conflation of rate cuts and tax cuts is a recent trend.  Only very rarely in 25 years have I heard any pol or reporter provide a statement clearly differentiating between rate cuts and tax cuts.

The left mystificate the tax system to the greatest extent they can, as they do with so many of their policies that cannot withstand the clarity of honest discussion.

It is also possible that &quot;unwilling largesse&quot; is ironic.  Like Shakespeare, The Colbert Report, &quot;Frank Burns is a good doctor and a fine human being,&quot; and whatnot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Malone:</p>
<p>I disagree with your assertion that the conflation of rate cuts and tax cuts is a recent trend.  Only very rarely in 25 years have I heard any pol or reporter provide a statement clearly differentiating between rate cuts and tax cuts.</p>
<p>The left mystificate the tax system to the greatest extent they can, as they do with so many of their policies that cannot withstand the clarity of honest discussion.</p>
<p>It is also possible that &#8220;unwilling largesse&#8221; is ironic.  Like Shakespeare, The Colbert Report, &#8220;Frank Burns is a good doctor and a fine human being,&#8221; and whatnot.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that SOME pols are not speaking honestly when saying &quot;tax cuts&quot;, but this is a recent trend, and only among those on the Left as they try to disguise their massive spending agenda.  Those on the Right have been protesting this subterfuge calling it welfare.  It is still understood that tax cuts mean tax-rate cuts, efforts to twist the phrase notwithstanding.

  Furthermore, it is not largesse on the part of those forcing the &quot;donation&quot;.  There exists no generosity on their behalf, because it&#039;s not their money.  If you start calling this theft largesse, then so can they!  They can start touting how &quot;generous&quot; they are.  Do you really want to start abetting their thievery?  If you are forced to &quot;donate&quot;, then it is not largesse on your part, either, as there exists no generosity.  So, no such thing as unwilling largesse.

  I stand by my critique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that SOME pols are not speaking honestly when saying &#8220;tax cuts&#8221;, but this is a recent trend, and only among those on the Left as they try to disguise their massive spending agenda.  Those on the Right have been protesting this subterfuge calling it welfare.  It is still understood that tax cuts mean tax-rate cuts, efforts to twist the phrase notwithstanding.</p>
<p>  Furthermore, it is not largesse on the part of those forcing the &#8220;donation&#8221;.  There exists no generosity on their behalf, because it&#8217;s not their money.  If you start calling this theft largesse, then so can they!  They can start touting how &#8220;generous&#8221; they are.  Do you really want to start abetting their thievery?  If you are forced to &#8220;donate&#8221;, then it is not largesse on your part, either, as there exists no generosity.  So, no such thing as unwilling largesse.</p>
<p>  I stand by my critique.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/lies-damned-lies-and-tax-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-195138</link>
		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I view a reduction in my income tax as more of my own money, which I earned, that I am allowed to keep. Leftists start with the implicit assumption that all wealth, regardless of who actually earned it, is the property of the state, and any amount that we have after taxes is viewed as a gift from the state.&lt;/i&gt;

How in the world did the country manage until the 1913 (&quot;pre thievery&quot;) passage of the Sixteenth Amendment, giving the Congress &quot;power&quot; to levy taxes on income ?  

Now we are muddled in boatloads of ignorance, and generations in the gubbmint schools have been conditioned to think it&#039;s all the gubbmint&#039;s money. Joe Biden recently said it&#039;s &quot;patriotic&quot; to pay taxes.  (Geithner &amp; Daschle apparently didn&#039;t get the memo)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment16/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;U.S. Constitution: Sixteenth Amendment&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I view a reduction in my income tax as more of my own money, which I earned, that I am allowed to keep. Leftists start with the implicit assumption that all wealth, regardless of who actually earned it, is the property of the state, and any amount that we have after taxes is viewed as a gift from the state.</i></p>
<p>How in the world did the country manage until the 1913 (&#8221;pre thievery&#8221;) passage of the Sixteenth Amendment, giving the Congress &#8220;power&#8221; to levy taxes on income ?  </p>
<p>Now we are muddled in boatloads of ignorance, and generations in the gubbmint schools have been conditioned to think it&#8217;s all the gubbmint&#8217;s money. Joe Biden recently said it&#8217;s &#8220;patriotic&#8221; to pay taxes.  (Geithner &amp; Daschle apparently didn&#8217;t get the memo)</p>
<p><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment16/" rel="nofollow">U.S. Constitution: Sixteenth Amendment</a></p>
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		<title>By: myth buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>myth buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more note about calculus and the economy: income is a derivative, wealth is a function.  The derivative of wealth is savings (income minus expenses) plus net capital gains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more note about calculus and the economy: income is a derivative, wealth is a function.  The derivative of wealth is savings (income minus expenses) plus net capital gains.</p>
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		<title>By: Micha Elyi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micha Elyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try, Marc Malone, but I ain&#039;t buyin&#039; your implied claim that the pols are speaking honestly when they speak of tax cuts that are really tax rate cuts and any appearance of equivocation is the uneducamated rubes&#039; fault.

If the kleptocrats (of all parties) genuinely mean &quot;tax cut&quot; to be an abbreviated form of &quot;tax rate cut&quot; they wouldn&#039;t immediately follow their blather about tax cuts that aren&#039;t &#039;cause they&#039;re really tax rate cuts with prattle about how working Americans will be keeping more of their own money blah blah blah.

No, Marc Malone, America&#039;s only native criminal class is deliberately indulging in bamboozling us by steeping their rhetoric with the fallacy of equivocation (among many others) and hoping that marks like you don&#039;t notice you&#039;re being lied to, &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; the crooks under the big white teat that tops the capitol building have been so effortlessly equivocating for so long that they&#039;ve formed the habit of misusing language and truly don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about any more.

So, they&#039;re liars or idiots.  Choose one or both, Marc, and you &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; choose.

Mr. Simberg&#039;s article would have been much shorter if he&#039;d pointed out that the &quot;tax cut&quot; conflation is rooted in the Fallacy of Confounding the Derivative with the Function.

Leftists, who Mr. Simberg rightly refuses to call &quot;liberals,&quot; are often the sort who fret that those of us who took the calculus didn&#039;t leave any for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try, Marc Malone, but I ain&#8217;t buyin&#8217; your implied claim that the pols are speaking honestly when they speak of tax cuts that are really tax rate cuts and any appearance of equivocation is the uneducamated rubes&#8217; fault.</p>
<p>If the kleptocrats (of all parties) genuinely mean &#8220;tax cut&#8221; to be an abbreviated form of &#8220;tax rate cut&#8221; they wouldn&#8217;t immediately follow their blather about tax cuts that aren&#8217;t &#8217;cause they&#8217;re really tax rate cuts with prattle about how working Americans will be keeping more of their own money blah blah blah.</p>
<p>No, Marc Malone, America&#8217;s only native criminal class is deliberately indulging in bamboozling us by steeping their rhetoric with the fallacy of equivocation (among many others) and hoping that marks like you don&#8217;t notice you&#8217;re being lied to, <i>or</i> the crooks under the big white teat that tops the capitol building have been so effortlessly equivocating for so long that they&#8217;ve formed the habit of misusing language and truly don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about any more.</p>
<p>So, they&#8217;re liars or idiots.  Choose one or both, Marc, and you <i>must</i> choose.</p>
<p>Mr. Simberg&#8217;s article would have been much shorter if he&#8217;d pointed out that the &#8220;tax cut&#8221; conflation is rooted in the Fallacy of Confounding the Derivative with the Function.</p>
<p>Leftists, who Mr. Simberg rightly refuses to call &#8220;liberals,&#8221; are often the sort who fret that those of us who took the calculus didn&#8217;t leave any for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2009/01/real-tax-burden.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Real Tax Burden&lt;/a&gt;
Excerpt:

The amount of tax that a government imposes is the amount it spends. The timing and amount of tax collections is merely finance. 

If the government cuts rates or gives rebates, but also increases the size of government, then real taxes are higher. Government is taking a bigger share of the economic pie leaving less for private use or investment.
 
Milton Friedman pointed out that the burden on the private sector is bigger when the government grows as a percentage of the economy. Focus on government spending, not on how government is financed, whether it&#039;s out of current taxes or future taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2009/01/real-tax-burden.html" rel="nofollow">The Real Tax Burden</a><br />
Excerpt:</p>
<p>The amount of tax that a government imposes is the amount it spends. The timing and amount of tax collections is merely finance. </p>
<p>If the government cuts rates or gives rebates, but also increases the size of government, then real taxes are higher. Government is taking a bigger share of the economic pie leaving less for private use or investment.</p>
<p>Milton Friedman pointed out that the burden on the private sector is bigger when the government grows as a percentage of the economy. Focus on government spending, not on how government is financed, whether it&#8217;s out of current taxes or future taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Sorbello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Sorbello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John from Cinnncinatti...........YEAH RIGHT!!!!LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John from Cinnncinatti&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..YEAH RIGHT!!!!LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Sorbello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Sorbello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T In answer to Gwyn.....
So sorry you feel that way I hope your are wrong about that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T In answer to Gwyn&#8230;..<br />
So sorry you feel that way I hope your are wrong about that</p>
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		<title>By: Gwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Obama&#039;s agenda is NOT to help the economy or tax-paying citizens.  He could care less. The Dems and Obama, et al have only ONE agenda--to increase the size of the govt and its bureaucracies and their power. Pure and simple.  These people are fascist, bottom line. They all are Keynesians and think of the &quot;government&quot; as the only means of securing the most good for the most people.  Trouble is that this is becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy as the govt. is the largest employer of the largest amount of people in this nation. These people would rather reign over Hell than serve in Heaven. A goodly percentage are athiestic or agnostic and they certainly are all &quot;humanists,&quot; placing the human being on the top of everything. They are a mass of contradictions. 
Those who really want change should band with those of us who are supporting the disbanding of tht IRS and the enactment of the Fairtax.  It is really the only possible cure to the endemic poison and corruption that Washington and the elite east coast are soaked in.
The very idea of taking money from the fruits of people&#039;s labor should be abhorrent to any honest human being on this earth.  It is nothing more than outright theft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Obama&#8217;s agenda is NOT to help the economy or tax-paying citizens.  He could care less. The Dems and Obama, et al have only ONE agenda&#8211;to increase the size of the govt and its bureaucracies and their power. Pure and simple.  These people are fascist, bottom line. They all are Keynesians and think of the &#8220;government&#8221; as the only means of securing the most good for the most people.  Trouble is that this is becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy as the govt. is the largest employer of the largest amount of people in this nation. These people would rather reign over Hell than serve in Heaven. A goodly percentage are athiestic or agnostic and they certainly are all &#8220;humanists,&#8221; placing the human being on the top of everything. They are a mass of contradictions.<br />
Those who really want change should band with those of us who are supporting the disbanding of tht IRS and the enactment of the Fairtax.  It is really the only possible cure to the endemic poison and corruption that Washington and the elite east coast are soaked in.<br />
The very idea of taking money from the fruits of people&#8217;s labor should be abhorrent to any honest human being on this earth.  It is nothing more than outright theft.</p>
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