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1. Saltherring:

Notice to the RNC: Put another Democrat collaborator like McCain on the Republican presidential ticket and I (and I’m certain millions more conservatives) will stay home in 2012. I’ve had it with milquetoast moderates.

Mar 3, 2009 - 10:50 pm 2. Marc Malone:

Michael Steele was simply guilty of doing the same old thing of sucking up to the media. He had a golden opportunity and squandered it. He could have put a smackdown on Hughley and stood up for conservative values, but like other soft conservatives, he appeased. He just had this great chance to air the Pub message, and he wilted.

These professional politicians just don’t get that there is a war on and that the media serves the enemy, period. They are just too afraid of the Press. It is a conditioned response. the way out of hte wilderness is to get into the faces of the Press. You have to be incendiary enough that they are forced to air it because it bleeds. That’s the only way to get past the media filter.

Mar 3, 2009 - 11:34 pm 3. G Alston:

Graham –

The majority of voters are centrist. The “conservatives” (those who take Limbaugh seriously) top out at a fraction of voters and aren’t even the majority of the people who vote GOP.

Schools graduate up to a million kids a year. Few are “conservative.” Nor will they be. “Conservative” ranks are not increasing. They’re decreasing. So’s church attendance. By 2016 the “conservatives” will have to dig up an extra 8 million votes just to counter what the schools cranked out. Where are these votes going to come from?

This silly idea that “conservatives” don’t need the centrist voter in the GOP is based solely on the inability to do simple math.

“When many on the right say they hope Obama succeeds…”

…we mean exactly that. You sound no better than the leftists who claimed Bush wasn’t “their” president. Mr. Obama is the President of the United States. Have you no respect? No class?

(No. You have neither.)

Your article is unthinking, mean sprited, rabble rousing crap. I could feed my dog alphabet soup and he’d produce better considered commentary than yours.

Mar 3, 2009 - 11:54 pm 4. Войска ПВО:

..what he (Saltherring) said!

If we had treated Al Queda after 9/11 like the Republicans treated the minority Democrats these past eight years, our women would be wearing burkas and we’d all be driving camels to work.

When, O when will the RNC grow a pair?

Mar 3, 2009 - 11:58 pm 5. Scott M:

If the answer for Republicans is to be moderate, not bend to the will of the conservatives, why wasn’t Chris Shays re-elected? Why aren’t the vast army of moderate, North-East Republican former Senators and Congressmen still in office?

Moderates have this self-serving notion that only they are paying attention and responsible, while us knuckle-dragging conservatives just bark when our master says “bark.” I’ve never once met a moderate that was able to bring facts to an argument, beyond repeating what he heard on NPR that day.

Moderate Republicans are the fair-weather fans of politics. If they sense the crowds rushing toward the right, they’ll join in. Crowds rushing to the left, they’ll join in. By doing such they proclaim themself responsible. I’ve never witnessed a moderate in a valiant defense of anything conservative against a liberal. Their passion is only stirred when they can battle conservatives.

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:02 am 6. TomJW:

Steele also agreed during his Hughley interview that the repub convention had Nazi overtones. This man is an idiot. He doesn’t even imagine the leftist media will ambush and trick him. His only response is to agree. Then he attacks one of the only people telling everyone that the emporer has no clothes. I would not leave Steele in charge of a burnt out match.

Mar 4, 2009 - 3:30 am 7. syn:

“The majority of voters are centrist.”

If this is true why then did Centrists reject McCain only to put an extreme-Progressive Leftist into power:

Now I realize that Centrists (ie Brooks, Frum) are now saying that President Obama is not the man they thought he was however what are the other Centrists saying now that know they also were bamboozled?

Centrist voted for extreme-Progressive Leftism; please do defend Centrism.

Mar 4, 2009 - 3:35 am 8. Bob:

Great article. Rush is the soul of the conservative movement right now. I like Michael Steele, but in a good week, he may get 15 minutes of time on cable TV to briefly give a few Republican talking points. Rush Limbaugh is articulating conservative principles – freedom, capitalism, free markets, strong defense and less government – 15 hours a week to an audience of 20 million listeners. I regret that no one in the Republican Party – certainly not Chairman Steele or John McCain – is inspiring millions. The only other voice that is creating Repulbicans is President Obama, whose radical plans to remake America is stirring some backlash from freedom lovers. Until someone in the party can take on the leadership role once worn by Reagan or Gingrich, we need Rush and other talk show hosts to keep up the daily battle to preserve the American way of life.

Mar 4, 2009 - 3:59 am 9. IlikeIke:

“Rush’s “I hope he fails” is far closer to the hearts of conservatives who really do not want Obama to succeed in pushing through his agenda, even if they’re not cheering for the country to go down in flames.”

And this is why the conservative movement has very little appeal in today’s world. They offer no solutions, only negativity and sneers.

Mar 4, 2009 - 4:13 am 10. David Thomson:

Barack Obama is foolishly turning Rush Limbaugh into the face of conservatism. The famous radio talk show host possesses a first rate mind that is clearly superior to that of the president’s. Moreover, he has the incredible ability to convert people over to this way of thinking. They only have to take the time to actually listen to him. Obama is way out of his league in challenging Limbaugh. It is similar to a second string high school basketball player competing against an all-star NBA player. It’s not a fair fight.

Mar 4, 2009 - 4:17 am 11. RE:

The naivete of the ‘moderates’ is both disappointing and maddening. It’s clear that it’s the media trying to drive wedges and split the GOP into warring factions. Any discord in the GOP camp is sure to be amplified and exacerbated, while Democrat discord goes unreported. There’s nothing new about media distortion and political activism yet, but the ‘moderates’ seem to fall for media manipulation time and time again.

Mar 4, 2009 - 4:25 am 12. David Thomson:

“They offer no solutions, only negativity and sneers.”

Really? On the contrary, conservatives provide the best solution to our nation’s economic crisis: lower taxes and control spending. The stock market would jump up immediately if these two things occurred. What’s so negative about that?

Mar 4, 2009 - 4:47 am 13. Jack:

I would pay money to see a debate between Rush and Obambi.

Mar 4, 2009 - 5:07 am 14. PAR:

Obama wants to isolate Rush. He knows how popular he is and how he can rally the people. His strategy is to focus attention on him,ridicule him and hope we will distance ourselves from him. Obama and his dwarfs will keep on the attack for four years (or eight) if we let him.

Do not go on the defensive, we must stay on the attack. Obama is making enough mistakes that we have a target rich environment. Go after him every time he breaks one of his promises. Focus on every gaff and make fun of it. Yesterday he referred to a P/E ratio as a “profit earnings ratio” what an an idiot! Stay on the attack.

Mar 4, 2009 - 5:19 am 15. qbit:

G Alston ,
“When many on the right say they hope Obama succeeds…” is your delusion that has been ingrained in your head, and force-fed to you by your beloved “Government Controlled” media.

Mar 4, 2009 - 5:45 am 16. Jo:

The truth is that the Republicans have no real leader right now. The Republican Party has no one to step up and inspire them, no one to turn to for new ideas, so the void is filled by Rush. We better be glad we’ve got something because if we are waiting for someone else to articulate the conservative ideals, we may be waiting a long time. Where are the brilliant thinkers and speakers, the people that can make us want to get out, get to work and win an election?

Mar 4, 2009 - 5:45 am 17. tommyd:

It is apparent that many have fallen for the MSM’s & the Dem’s talking points that Limbaugh is from the extreme far right. Many with that opinion, whether it be genuine or simply for political purposes, have not spent much if any time listening to Limbaugh speak. (out of context sound bites don’t count).
Libs that spout “They offer no solutions” are only parroting the lefts talking points.
It is obviously apparent that the left has chosen to mount an offensive to bring down Limbaugh and the conservative talk radio crowd and like in everything else they do the facts have not much to do with how they get the job done. The current administration has decided they cannot afford to have Conservative talk radio freely presenting conservative views on the radio airwaves, which the libs fail miserably at , so they are actively attempting to silence them Hugo Chavez style.

The original article is right, Steele had the perfect opportunity to Stand UP but instead chose to sit down. Too bad but his action only proved he is unfortunately not the man for the job he was handed. He handled the opportunity in typical beltway politician style and LOST.

Limbaugh is not some far right wacko, (oh they exist just like the same on the left do make no mistake), the Dems and MSM like to paint him as.
How else can they hope to discredit him other than with lies or mischaracterizing him as they have a very hard time rebutting him in the actual arena of face to face debate of ideas. (might I add which is why they fail at talk radio, their ideas cannot stand the scrutiny of hours or days of open debate before the unwashed general public.)

What Limbaugh is bringing to light is how disconnected the Beltway D.C. crowd really is.
Limbaugh on the other hand spends 3 hours a day 5 days a week talking and interacting with regular Americans. (yes liberals do call and have discussions with him too) He knows where the majority of conservatives stand and what they want from their government.
The Beltway boys spend hours upon hours being fawned over by D.C. Lobbyist who stroke the politico’s overinflated egos , not to mention stuffing their wallets, and discussing the days problems amongst themselves where they foster the inevitable attitude of group mentality (us against them where the them is the American public)
If the current problems don’t prove who’s side the political class is on I don’t know what would. It is not the side of the average American.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:10 am 18. Craig:

“And this is why the conservative movement has very little appeal in today’s world. They offer no solutions, only negativity and sneers.”

Check back, when your cerebral cortex fires up.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:10 am 19. Laura:

You have to wonder about the President of the United States, the leader of the free world, telling people NOT to listen to Rush Limbaugh. The guy is a radio talk show host, not a political leader. Honestly folks, what’s happened to free speech in America?? Obama is playing dirty and it is disgusting. He is a pathetic and weak excuse for a man, let alone leader of the United States. Absolutely shameful that the American people let themselves be bamboozled by this shyster.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:14 am 20. acj:

Just as any preacher tells his congregation what they want to hear, Rush Limbaugh’s audience is a crowd ready to listen to any thing he says. He is telling “the last of the right wing republicans” what they want to hear. It is a crowd that most moderate or Reagan type republicans want to distance themselves. Who listens to Rush is just as important of a factor as the man himself. They are angry, and blame their ills on the liberal democrats and even their own party for being spineless. The result will be a small outcast of dysfunctional, wayward peoples manifesting and creating an imaginary friend.
My neighbor is a prime example of a Rush listener, and I see his demise, his arguments are becoming so far fetch that I try to avoid his lunacy.
Like I have said before, Rush has the special talent of connecting the dots from a Dalmatian to a mars landing in one run on sentence and have it make complete sense.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:20 am 21. Cybergeezer:

Before this administration is finished, they’ll single out every citizen that comments negatively about them. These idiots are absolute incompetent juveniles. So, come and get me, a-holes!

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:35 am 22. Steve P.:

Laura: You have to wonder about the President of the United States, the leader of the free world, telling people NOT to listen to Rush Limbaugh.

Sorry, you’re wrong, the President never told people not to listen to Limbaugh. He told a closed session of a congressional committee of Republicans that they coudn’t listen to Limbaugh and get things done, i.e., that following Limbaugh’s prescription for how to handle the economic crisis is a recipe for disaster. Why? Because Limbaugh is a high school drop out who has never held office and has only casual knowledge of the economy. He is not a leader, he is an entertainer of the lowest common demoniator. But apparently ou folks are content to have a blowhard comedian as your party leader. Good luck with that.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:41 am 23. Canuckistani:

#20 acj said,
“Like I have said before, Rush has the special talent of connecting the dots from a Dalmatian to a mars landing in one run on sentence and have it make complete sense.”

I have to respond, unlike you.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:43 am 24. Spider79:

G Alston
“”When many on the right say they hope Obama succeeds…”

…we mean exactly that. You sound no better than the leftists who claimed Bush wasn’t “their” president. Mr. Obama is the President of the United States. Have you no respect? No class?”

The only people on the right who hope Obama succeeds are the people who are not paying attention to what he is doing and saying that he wants to do. If Obama succeeds, many of the ideals and principles that founded our country will be obliterated. I can only conclude that is what you want.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:45 am 25. tommyd:

“acj:

Just as any preacher tells his congregation what they want to hear,”

Like the Rev. Wright told Obama for 2 decades, that is until it became a political liability. But that did not matter then did it…..

quote: acj:
“He is telling “the last of the right wing republicans”

like I said:
Parroting leftist talking points,
Limbaugh’s audience is something like 20 million, gee that’s a lot of Americans to be calling “Right Wing Republicans”

bla bla bla that’s all the left has.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:50 am 26. Dr. Fred in PA:

The majority of Republicans in DC are pork swilling morally bankrupt careerists. John Boehner has actually started showing some hope but John Cornyn needs to go. And don’t even get me started on MY senior senator. What is the difficulty in advocating for lower taxes, less regulation and personal responsibility? WHY can’t SOMEBODY stand up in front of a national microphone and declare that the number of people on the government teat is completely unacceptable? Until the GOP grows a spine and speaks the truth to the American people things will remain hopeless.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:55 am 27. tommyd:

quote:
” Steve P:
Because Limbaugh is a high school drop out who has never held office and has only casual knowledge of the economy. He is not a leader, he is an entertainer of the lowest common demoniator. But apparently ou folks are content to have a blowhard comedian as your party leader. Good luck with that.”

this is too funny,

I would LOVE to see the Highly educated Obama debate Limbaugh, that would be true entertainment.

Oh by the way, it is the left who just elected a Comedian to the Senate in Minnesota.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:56 am 28. AnninCA:

I don’t mind a few points Rush makes….or O’Reilly for that matter. But if he’s going to be truly important in the party, then another independent will be avoiding most Republicans in the voting booth. That’s crazy. He’s a crazed and very entertaining talk show guy, back from the edge of insanity of prescription med abuse.

The administration has, it appears, effectively set up their strawman. When even the conservatives are writing pieces as though this makes sense, then obviously, Gibbs was right.

Too bad.

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:05 am 29. Northern Light:

I haven’t listened to Rush LImbaugh in about 15 years. It seems things have changed a bit since then.

Rush is now leader of the Republican Party. He allows no criticism. Michael Steele forgot who was boss for a few seconds and crossed the line. It was the leader’s job to get him back in line.

Rush apparently has the support of 20 million listeners. I can’t remember how many votes the GOP got in the last election, but I am assuming that 20 million is a good sized, possibly majority of Republican votes. So Rush is unquestionably the boss and he is not to be questioned.

Mr. Limbaugh declared at CPAC that the policies of the Republican party are sound and all the party needs is someone to articulate them. Is he going to do the right thing and run?

2012: Palin-Limbaugh or would it be Limbaugh-Palin?

To dittoheads this would be a dream come true. But I have to wonder if the Democratic Party would also see this ticket as their dreams coming true as well.

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:07 am 30. JHM:

“… Limbaugh’s overall ratings were even lower than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s controversial former pastor, and William Ayers, the domestic terrorist and Chicago resident who Republicans sought to tie to Obama during the campaign….”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596.html

Happy days.

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:11 am 31. Col.Smeag:

Liberals only get specific when they’re scared of someone. Take Bill Clinton for example he knew he was cornered into Impeachment so he took to the air waves to deny having ” relations” with “THAT” women…The Barrack knows he couldn’t win a debate win anything less than a Sand Flea (aka John McCain) but up against someone who can articulate a point instead of just using political speech. As for Robert Gibbs….is Gibbs short for Gibberish?

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:13 am 32. savage24:

I told the RNC a while back that they should have taken Ann Coulter’s advice to heart. She told them that they should have the words ” Never Take Advice From Your Enemies” tattoo on their foreheads so they would be reminded of every time they look in a mirror. Well the RNC doesn’t take advice well unless it comes from the enemy. Steele said he’d fight for the black vote, but I didn’t hear him say he’d fight for the conservative vote. 95% of the blacks vote democrat, and that will not be changed in our lifetime. A big share of the conservative voters were fed up and just stayed home in this last election. You cannot blame them either, look at what was running!

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:14 am 33. Steve P.:

tommyd says: “I would LOVE to see the Highly educated Obama debate Limbaugh, that would be true entertainment.”

Yeah, it would be very entertaining, but it won’t ever take place because Limbaugh has never had the balls to debate anyone. He’s a coward who hides in a studio. At least the President had the cajones to go on O’Reilly.

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:41 am 34. Cichawoda:

“He knows how popular he is and how he can rally the people.”

In a recent poll run before the “I want Obama to fail!” flap Rush had a 89% disapproval rating with people under 30.

I don’t recall any elected Democrat having to apologize to a talk show host. You people are embarrassing. A democracy needs a viable, rational, intelligent opposition to the ruling party – you guys can’t hack it – we need something new. A party with ideals and ideas would be nice – maybe the Libertarians can pick up the slack.

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:47 am 35. Gustav:

Limbaugh is an admitted narcotics addict. Glenn Beck is an admitted alcoholic. Hannity is probably too ashamed to admit he is a homosexual. These are the preferred voices and choices of the Republican party. It doesn’t get any better. Neither democrats nor the ‘drive-by media’ need to do anything.

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:52 am 36. one of my own:

32 savage 24 . . . the “conservative vote” is no longer enough. The arrogant, incompetent and profligate ways of the Republicans have awakened a new electorate, more informed, more independent and more activist than the Right can handle. You had power and opportunity and you abused it at the expense of every “real american” (not just the ones from Alaska).

We have seen the courting and dismissal of the religious right by Republicans. We have witnessed the unparalleled expansion of executive power. We have seen the politicization of the Justice Department. We have seen the contempt for Congress. We have experienced the subjugation of civil liberties, which is becoming even more frightening with the release of each new Yoo memo. We have seen the capitalist manipulation of war at work. As for bipartisanship, you can expect the same commitment to that from Democrats that Republicans showed over the last 8 years. That sounds fair.

Fact is, you all believed that the permanent Republican majority was a done deal. You think that flag pins and hockey moms and tea bags are all this country needs to compete and excel in the 21st century economy. Well, America is changing. We can’t wring our hands in regret that Andy and Barney aren’t down at the sheriff’s office playing checkers with Otis the drunk. American can’t operate like we’re alone in the world . . . that if we just close the borders and pass out the guns and put Sarah Palin in the White House then everything will be fine. We can all sit around and drink beer and watch reruns of Happy Days.

You all better realize something . . . no matter who wins what going forward, things will never be the same. That doesn’t mean that we will lose our heritage or values. It means that we will have to actually live them again, instead of whoring them out through the right wing media.

Or you can root for America to fail.

Now, got a light?

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:59 am 37. G Alston:

#24 — If Obama succeeds, many of the ideals and principles that founded our country will be obliterated.

Get a grip. A clue might be useful as well. Mr. Obama is the President, not the supreme leader. He doesn’t snap his fingers and poof his whim into existence or the constitution out of existence.

#32 — A big share of the conservative voters were fed up and just stayed home in this last election. You cannot blame them either, look at what was running!

Interesting commentary, and telling.

Limbaugh has some 20 million listeners, and that’s about the extent of the “conservative” base. They are a minority of the electorate and a minority of the GOP.

Meanwhile other posters claim I’m incorrect about the centrist nature of the electorate. Seems to me McCain got close to 50 million votes. If half of the dittoheads stayed home (unlikely) then that leaves some 40 million centrists who voted McCain. Another 30+ million voted Obama. Centrists are the majority.

Using your logic, presume Limbaugh was running, and 20 million dittoheads turn out to vote. The GOP still loses, but this time it loses worse, because there’s no place for centrists.

My premise (mathematics is your friend) remains solid — the GOP will continue to lose ground to the left if it rejects the centrists and embraces the dittohead vote instead.

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:02 am 38. imyou:

The elite political class and the cross fire media are all doing what they do best. By keeping us divided, off target, and distracted while they lick their chops, we the people are losing our voice while these time bandits are robbing us blind. I cannot wait to see every one of the current crop thrown out of office. The people have to take their power back.

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:08 am 39. Tennwriter:

Scott M,
Brief, but brilliant.

Northern Light,
Limbaugh is the leader of the party because mental and moral midgets have abdicated their posts. They still cling to their honors, their ribbons, their medals, even as they flee from the battlefield. If they had decency, they would cast aside their uniforms and pretend to be the cowardly peasants they are in their hearts.

Limbaugh is the leader by default. Its rather like Braveheart where the Scottish leaders were very possibly in the pocket of the English king, or afraid, but one ordinary guy stood up and said “NO.”

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:15 am 40. PAR:

The Conservatives need a leader. Someone Rush will support but not overshadow. That person then needs to go after the weaknesses in BO’s administration. The weakest link is that idiot Timmy Geittner. Now the tax cheat is going after the tax cheats. He can start by arresting himself and the rest of BO’s cabinet. Attack! Do not go on the defensive.

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:16 am 41. Tennwriter:

What was it Brooks said…centrists are a vapid something or other, that might become a tendency, and we need to get enthused so that we might become a force…

Or was it, Centrists are a dozen different factions, most of them not that enthused or interested or coherent, who are attracted by positive energy, clear principles, and fine oratory, and that if the Conservative Movement gets its way, they will vote Republican and there will be a sixty percent victory in 2012 for the Republican Party, and if the elitists get their way the R Party will go off the cliff as the Democrats get a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and further cement their dominance nation-wide?

Those who grasp for the cloak of centrism to cover their extremism fail to realize that the clearsighted can see right through them.

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:24 am 42. NWMA:

The democrats have just made Rush more powerful than they could ever imagine. Given a clear choice rather than sort of one and it’s worse with the other, look for the Zel Miller ( actual producers ) types to get along side Rush and hammer the crap out of the obama traitors.

They just don’t get it. We love our country, not the people who try to use it.

Let the Rusholution begin! ( remember you heard that here first.)

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:26 am 43. Carolb:

“Limbaugh is an admitted narcotics addict. Glenn Beck is an admitted alcoholic.”

And, Barack Obama is an admitted user of illegal drugs (to what extent, we’ll never know)… And, Barack Obama attended a racist church for 20 years…

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:28 am 44. A View:

22. Steve P.:

In my view. Obama’s IQ is much lower than Limbaugh. Becsuse he is so afrear of Limbaugh. Obama can not stand dirrefent voice.

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:35 am 45. MarkD:

The anti-Limbaugh vehemence is telling, isn’t it. Here’s a radio talk show host, a man who has run for nothing, with no political power, being identified as the leader of a political party. Somebody must be afraid.

About Obama, I hope he fails as well. If he succeeds, my country fails. That oath I took was to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. It didn’t have a word in it about the president, his policies, or political parties. Obama doesn’t stand for equality or freedom.

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:49 am 46. TOhio:

I started listening to Rush Limbaugh about 6 months ago. I thought that he was a racist and wondered why he was so popular. Now I know why!

Rush Limbaugh makes sense. He speaks the truth from his heart and he is the only one who has the courage right now to directly take on Obama and his leftist flunkies.

If you listen to Rush, you’ll understand why conservatism makes sense and why moderate and liberal ideas fail. Obama, the media and moderate Republicans want Rush to fail because as long as Rush Limbaugh is around speaking the truth and calling out their lies, they can’t dupe everyone.

Right now, the only real American patriot I see on the national stage is Rush Limbaugh and I support him wholeheartedly.

Mar 4, 2009 - 8:58 am 47. Maggie:

I love Rush. Making personal attacks on him – rather than debating the points he makes – just shows how on target he is.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:07 am 48. Pat J:

“I would LOVE to see the Highly educated Obama debate Limbaugh, that would be true entertainment.”

So would I. I get the feeling Obama would make mincemeat out of old porky.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:10 am 49. Cybergeezer:

Rush is challenging “The Campaigner in Chief” to a debate right now; 1214 hrs. EDT.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:15 am 50. Cybergeezer:

Obama can’t handle the truth!

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:17 am 51. deguello:

Any republican who is worried about Limbaugh confronting the Ohole,should become a democrat and paint a broad yellow stripe down his back.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:36 am 52. krusher:

Pat J: “Highly educated Obama”?? Educated in what? Socialism 101. Stalin starvation techniques. Castro concentration camps. Ayers Anti-Americanism. Wright’s rag-tag hate religion.

That’s an education that Rush would devour if Obama spoke his true feelings.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:44 am 53. Cichawoda:

46. TOhio:
“conservatism makes sense and why moderate and liberal ideas fail.”
So lets make a list. On the “liberal” column we have:
- American Constitution and the bill of rights
- Emancipation
- Right to vote
- Civil Rights
- 8 hour work day and 40 hour work week
- child labor laws and work safety rules
- the new deal
- environmental protection
- promotion of basic scientific research
- freedom of speech
- I could go on and on – what ideas do you guys have?

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:47 am 54. Maggie:

deguello – ditto for any Republican worried about Obama (and his hacks) confronting Limbaugh.

Democrats attacking Limbaugh is pathetic. Imagine Republicans attacking Jon Stewart or Chris Matthews by claiming either as the “leader” of the Democrats.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:51 am 55. MikeD:

I too avoided Rush’s program for years, believing the knee-jerk comments that he was simply a rabid, over-the-top entertainer, not to be taken seriously. And if you listen to him once or twice I can see how you might arrive at that conclusion. But if you listen to him for a couple of weeks or longer, which I finally did, you realize he speaks a lot of sense and truth. And I find that I agree with him about 95% of the time. Is he the new leader of the GOP? I don’t know, but I am firmly convinced he and his 20 million listeners (and the number grows daily) are an important constituent group for the right. And to Steve P, who ignorantly states that he is afraid to debate the White House Clown, I simply will state that Rush effectively debates people every day on his program (but you have to listen to know that), has offered to debate Obama (did so again this morning), and would, I believe, eat Obama alive. Despite Obama’s affirmative action, Ivy-League degree I am not convinced he is particularly bright. In fact, he demonstrates his lack of experience and knowledge day in and day out. The country will come to realize as the months go by that Obama is a just a smooth talking liar, surrounded by petty thieves and syncophants. A false giant surrounded by real dwarfs, where “culture of corruption” was simply a Democrat party campaign promise. And Rush will increasingly point this out to a growing audience. But go ahead and demean Limbaugh as a fool and an inferior. That is wishful thinking and it will bite you in the ass.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:52 am 56. PAR:

I’d rather have Limbaugh leading the way than being Pelosi’s little errand boy. How long is BO going to keep saying yes maam to everything Pelosi asks for. Let’s make a list of what Pelosi has asked for and BO has said yes maam to, oh yea, everything.

Now that’s leadership. Just wait until BO says please Nancy and she says no. Watch him cry.

Mar 4, 2009 - 10:02 am 57. WestGuard:

How sad and insecure the weak lib dems are that they feel the need to rally a crusade to attack an American radio talk show host. It’s too bad they don’t show the same zeal for going after Americas enemies.

Michael Steele should be kept away from the media unless he is packing a conservative cheat-sheet to read from.

Mar 4, 2009 - 10:11 am 58. Dee:

Just remember Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative is a philosophy of how to live your life, run a business or run a country. Republican, as the Democrat Party, is organized to seize power.

So the Republicans, some of them, have determined that we Conservatives are a pesky nuisance. However, since we Conservatives have lost everything and tend to be ignorant,(just read these posts that point that out.),supporting Demo-lites makes no sense.

Michael Steele let us know what he thinks of Conservatives. Adios RNC.

Mar 4, 2009 - 10:14 am 59. jw:

Reply to #46 TOhio:

“Conservatism” as it is now used means to “conserve” what is good about the United States, and is classical liberalism, not socialism which is euphemistically called “liberalism” and is really illiberalism.
Rush Limbaugh supports the American Constitution and the Bill of Rights. President Barack Obama wants to violate the Constitution and make himself in charge of the Census. And see Senator Robert Byrd’s criticism of Obama’s violating the Constitution.
Emancipation? That was what the Republicans did: Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president. The southern states were Democratic, first being slave states and then being states with state-enforced racial discrimination.
Right to vote? See the 14th and 15th Amendments to the Constitution, passed by Republicans.
Civil Rights? Again, Republican. It was southern Democrats who supported racial segregation laws.
I don’t know about who got the eight hour work day or the 40 hour work week, or child labor laws and work safety rules. Laws regulating hours of work and work safety came at the beginning of the 20th century, when Republicans were the dominant political party (except in the south). See Muller v. Oregon, 1908.
Freedom of Speech? The illiberals attack it continuously by hate-speech laws, political correctness, and trying to shut Rush Limbaugh up.

Mar 4, 2009 - 10:15 am 60. Steve P.:

jw says: “Rush Limbaugh supports the American Constitution and the Bill of Rights.”

No, Rush Limbaugh supports whatever will make him more money. Obviously, being a blowhard conservative voice of opposition has made him a wealthy guy, and that’s what he’s about. If he actually supported the Constitution and Bill of Rights, he would have criticized President Bush’s betrayal of conservativism these epast 8 years. But of course, he’s just another GOP hypocrite who thinks that being patriotic is ignoring the failings of your own party while relentelssly attacking a new president simply because he is of the opposition party. Some patriot.

Mar 4, 2009 - 10:47 am 61. WestWright:

jw, thanks for that reply to the obviously misinformed #46 TOhio. I just don’t have the patience to take on the craven OBot posters today

Mar 4, 2009 - 10:54 am 62. Will:

When Hughely accused the RNC of looking like the Nazi Party Steele should have taken offense at the comment and responded with this:

Mr Hughley, are you aware that the NAZI Party was the NSDAP or Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei which in English is the “National SOCIALIST German Workers’ Party” and it has far more in common with 0bama and his policies than it ever has had with the GOP.

It’s 0bama that held a mass propaganda rally in Berlin.

It’s 0bama who wants to build a “domestic security force”

It’s 0bama who has groups of indoctrinated children singing his praises in choirs.

It’s 0bama who has a messianic following.

It’s 0bama that has the media in his pocket.

It’s 0bama who uses staged events to project soaring rhetoric to disguise his socialist ambitions.

It’s 0bama who is attempting to stifle opposition speech.

It’s 0bama that is slowly nationalizing the banks.

It’s 0bama that is taking major control of the auto industry.

It’s 0bama who will confiscate guns from the citizenry if he gets the chance.

Hitler did all of the above. Has any GOP leader ever attempted the same?

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:02 am 63. Cichawoda:

54. Maggie:
“Imagine Republicans attacking Jon Stewart or Chris Matthews by claiming either as the “leader” of the Democrats.”
Have you heard any of any elected Democrat apologizing to any of them?

59. jw:
““Conservatism” as it is now used means to “conserve” what is good about the United States” – you mean what YOU think is good, like when conservatives where opposed to Civil Rights Act? A conservative can be Republican or Democrat – in all cases bad.
“Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president” – that’s when Republicans where “liberal/progressive”
“It was southern Democrats who supported racial segregation laws.” – are you trying to say that the Southern Democrats where liberals/progressives? The Republican party became the bastion of conservatism, in part, to co-opt the Southern Democrats. Ike and Nixon where flaming liberals by Rush standards of conservatism.

To me this is not a fight between Republicans and Democrats – these are parties not world views – but between conservatives and progressives. Conservatives fear change and the future – “a known devil is better than an unknown angel” – they fear loosing what they already have. Progressives embrace change and forge into the unknown because they see so much that can be improved in the world.

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:03 am 64. TOhio:

#59 jw: Thanks! I agree with your points.

#53 Cichawoda: Read #59 jw’s response to your points. I would like to add that Civil Rights was not something that Democrats claim credit for. This is a lie. It turns out that if it weren’t for the Republicans, the Civil Rights Act would have never been passed.

You should listen to the following interview of Frances Rice, the head of the National Black Republican Association, who addresses this lie and other ones that Democrats have been perpetuating. It is very eye-opening and based on truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YdEmn7IYOg

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:03 am 65. Northern Light:

Just a point on Limbaugh and the Constitution.
In his speech to CPAC, Limbaugh said he was quoting from the Constitution when he was really quoting from The Declaration of Independence.

I say he can’t support the Constitution if he doesn’t know what it is.

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:09 am 66. Jesse:

Conservatives are not a minority. Conservative politicians are.

Megaditto’s to Rush.

As for Steele, he ain’t got it. Dump him now, before it is too late.

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:12 am 67. shrubnose:

Mr Graham says, ” Rush Limbaugh isn’t perfect”. I certainly agree with that! Next he says, ” but he’s closer to the minds of most Americans than the party’s leaders in Washington are.” I disagree, MOST Americans ( who are not members of the Limbaugh cult ), see this man for what he is – A racist, misogynist, hate and fearmonger. Limbaugh is to the GOP what Oxycontin is to Limbaugh! Finally Graham says, ” This doesn’t mean he should be the leader of the conservative movement. ” And who does Graham nominate to oppose Limbaugh ? Who will dare oppose Limbaugh ? Graham does not say. Graham wastes our time, he tells us nothing we do not already know . Any GOPer leaders who are not Rush Limbaugh ditto-heads ( and immune to common sense ! )have a choice – just say no to Limbaugh and reach out to middle America, or follow the ever shrinking crowd. When Limbaugh tells his cult he hopes President Obama fails, he is saying he hopes America fails. AND, he is telling them to work for this – the failure of our country, America . Sad. This is skating closer and closer to the thin ice of sedition ( see Smith Act, still in effect to protect the USA from people like Limbaugh ! ). Let’s wait and see how this works out for the GOP in 2010, 2012 and beyond. I am sure most Americans will reject this anti-American BS. Most American voters do NOT want America to fail. And America will not fail. Limbaugh and those who support him will fail. Hate and fear are poor selling points, that and rapidly changing demographics will soon spell the end of the GOP as a major party if it does not change and become more inclusive. People of colour ( who will be the voting majority by 2042 ! ), will not vote for those who hate, fear and despise them. Would you? I do NOT like the idea of a one party country, but that looks like the future in the USA . Don’t think so ? Let’s wait and see . My guess ? – Buh-bye GOP ! Have a nice day .

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:30 am 68. johngaltlives:

Acj-Stupid poster # 20-I guess you must be a member of the “trinity United Church Of Christ”. Talk about brainwashed idiots. Ill put my house up to find out how many of Limbaughs listeners have engaged in street crime, cheated on there taxes, or have iqs above 120 as compared to some idiots who attended a “church” like the “rev” wrights. It would be nice to see what the ones Iq is, except for the fact that none of his so-called “academic achievements” has never been released to the public. Yep acj, you must be a demozombie. Or a useful idiot. Same difference.

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:33 am 69. G Alston:

#63 — Progressives embrace change and forge into the unknown because they see so much that can be improved in the world.

Unadulterated horsepiddle. So called “progressives” have one trick and one trick only, which is bureaucratic control. Here’s the breakdown:

A moderate (centrist) wants to make a business atmosphere where an iPod is possible, desirable, and affordable. They invent the electronics, the software, and the methods to be able to make this dream a reality.

A “progressive” wants to figure out how to regulate and tax the manufacturing and use of it. Because of “progresssive” environazi regulation, it will be made in Thailand. “Progressives” then work on how to tax the imported units and the downloads.

A “conservative” wants to make sure dirty words aren’t played on it so it doesn’t offend Aunt Minnie’s sensibilities, so they create a TSA-like organisation to oversee downloads and make sure they’re family safe.

“Progressives” and “conservatives” have complete control over others as the ultimate goal, and the only difference is how they go about doing it. However, since “progressives” aren’t worried about how debased the lyrical content of the downloads are, they can thump their chests and proclaim that they’re for free speech.

Meanwhile, the moderates are puzzled by all of this and scratch their heads while observing the abject stupidity around them.

Any questions?

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:45 am 70. johngaltlives:

Poster # 62- we can go even further. The illegal Federal Reserve system-set up by demon rat commie pinko Woodrow Wilson. The illegal,unconstitutional 16th amendment(income tax) , set up by Woodrow Wilson. The divisive, illegal 17th amendmment(direct election of Us senators) , Woodorow Wilson, all of them passed during ww1 when the country was distracted by the war.The divisive 18th amendment(prohibition)passed during the Wilson era. Forced busing-demorats. Abortion-demorats. Affirmative Contamination-dems. Every social and fiscal policy promoted by the left in the last 100 yrs has been designed to balkanize America. Time for us to destroy the real enemy.

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:51 am 71. Cichawoda:

64. TOhio:
Read my post – I do not use the “Republican” or “Democrat” – these are parties not ideologies.

66. Jesse:
If we say that Republicans are conservative and Democrats are liberal than liberals have a 8 point advantage over conservatives today. Over the past 20 years the advantage has been on the conservative side for a total of only 5 years (1991 and 2001-2005 wars seem to make America more conservative – that’s why Republicans like them so much) and that only by 2 points according to Gallup (http://tinyurl.com/bu8bza). If you have any facts to contradict this – please post them.

Mar 4, 2009 - 11:53 am 72. MikeD:

“When Limbaugh tells his cult he hopes President Obama fails, he is saying he hopes America fails.”

Ah…, Shrubnose, another half-witted Obamabot! Pure projection and total BS. He states what he wishes to be, unable or unwilling to see what actually is. Rush wants Obama’s socialism to fail and so do I. But if America becomes socialist, and it is well on it’s way, then I hope it fails spectacularly and I will both do and promote all I personally can to assure that result, including armed opposition. And Shrubnose’s blathering disdain will simply reinforce my resolve.

Further, am I wrong, or do others here sense that Steve P, Chichawoda, Shrubnose, and others of similar response are young and that, while they have learned how to type, they have not learned very well how to think? Lamentably, I suspect, they never will.

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:01 pm 73. Cichawoda:

69. G Alston:
From what I know from personal experience about the computer revolution of the 60s and 70s and about today’s innovators in this field and in fact all the sciences – 8 out of 10 would call themselves Progressives and strongly support the progressive agenda. As the name implies Progressives are about positive change in science, technology, government, society etc. Where does the “bureaucratic control” come in?
As for taxes – you can’t have a great country without them. In the period of some of Americas greatest advances – highways, higher education, science, technology and innovation – the top tax rate was over 60%.

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:04 pm 74. Steve P.:

MikeD blabs: Further, am I wrong, or do others here sense that Steve P, Chichawoda, Shrubnose, and others of similar response are young and that, while they have learned how to type, they have not learned very well how to think?

Mike, for someone who belongs to a political party that has no good ideas, has no good leadership, has no power and pathetically has to bend over and grab its ankles everytime it perturbs a college-drop-out AM radio jockey, it’s comical that you would accuse anyone of failing to think critically.

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:22 pm 75. NWMA:

Long live the Rusholution!

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:33 pm 76. JD:

Most of Rush’s principles are sound conservative beliefs. Steele should not be distancing himself from a man with admirable beliefs and 20,000,000 listeners. And agreeing that CPAC appeared reminiscent of Nazi Germany was worse than spineless.

http://trackacrat.com/

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:39 pm 77. shrubnose:

Mike D is correct – Rush Limbaugh “states what he wishes to be, unable or unwilling to see what actually is” Yes, Mike D and Rush Limbaugh WISH the GOP had won the last electtion. But their GOP got it’s butt handed to it in November . Barrack Obama IS the President. And the GOP is sinking fast. Soon the GOP will be a minor, regional party with no national power. And Mike D will still be in his moms basement pounding away on his keyboard. Full of hate and empty of ideas. Another GOP ( Greed Over Principles party ) dead end loser . I am forwarding your post to the FBI, Mike D. Maybe you won’t be in moms basement much longer1 Some fresh air might do you some good. Armed opposition is not permitted in the USA. Here we use the ballot box. Have a nice day.

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:41 pm 78. Cichawoda:

“Steve P, Chichawoda, Shrubnose, and others of similar response are young” – I don’t know about the others but I’m quite old.
Rush did say he wants Obama to fail. He did not say he wanted Obama’s socialist policies to fail. I don’t think he gives a damn about what it would mean to the country if Obama failed.

“America becomes socialist” – you are against the Lockheed bailout, first Chrysler bailout, S&L bailout, Airline industry bailout, ect. Against public education, social security, medicaid, veterans benefits and the public finance of the police force and fire department – right?

“including armed opposition.” – we have dealt with your kind many times in history and you have always ended up the losers in the long run.

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:43 pm 79. shrubnose:

Mike D is correct – Rush Limbaugh “states what he wishes to be, unable or unwilling to see what actually is” Yes, Mike D and Rush Limbaugh WISH the GOP had won the last electtion. But their GOP got it’s butt handed to it in November . Barrack Obama IS the President. And the GOP is sinking fast. Soon the GOP will be a minor, regional party with no national power. And Mike D will still be in his moms basement pounding away on his keyboard. Full of hate and empty of ideas. Another GOP ( Greed Over Principles party ) dead end loser . I am forwarding your post to the FBI, Mike D. Maybe you won’t be in moms basement much longer! Some fresh air might do you some good. Armed opposition is not permitted in the USA. Here we use the ballot box. Have a nice day. Tell your 300# cellmate Bubba how tough you are .

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:45 pm 80. DavidN:

This is one of the most fascinating discussions in recent years. It’s become obvious that Obama’s stimulus bill, or whatever you wish to call it, won’t work immediately. It may not work at all. So the Democrats, who didn’t enact it to save the economy (it’s more about patronage and rewarding supporters) need to find a way to explain to the voters what happened to all their money, without blaming themselves. The first, obvious choice is to blame BushHitler, who of course trashed the economy on his own. The problem is that Bush has left office, and you can hardly say that the idiot trashed the economy so well that the brilliant guy can’t fix it. So of course there needs to be another culprit, someone presently here. How about Limbaugh? Everyone on the left hates him, as a hypocrite, hate-monger, and otherwise destructive force in American politics. The public’s gullible. Hopefully, no one will notice that Limbaugh has no political power and can’t work on legislation or anything else. This will serve to distract the public long enough that the extra spending and the high taxes that result will become part of American life before anyone notices.

Mar 4, 2009 - 12:56 pm 81. shrubnose:

FBI website is great ! Mike D should hear from the G-men soon.

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:00 pm 82. MikeD:

Sorry Steve P, I’m not a member of any political party and your musing about the comedy of my accusation doesn’t really prompt me to spar with you. My sentiments about you and the other clowns mentioned still stands, however. I find your thoughts, your ideas, and the level of intelligence you represent to be both shallow and repugnant.

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:01 pm 83. Anonymous:

Conservative principles – freedom, capitalism, free markets, strong defense and less government.
Less government includes freedom of religion. Too many people think that to be a conservative means to be a Christian. I am a Christian and we need to take our religion out of politics. Politicizing our religion gives Christianity a bad name and it goes against the conservative principles. Keep them seperate!

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:23 pm 84. richard fusilier:

My advice to Rush 1. Lose some weight. You look (and sometimes act like a buffoon) and today, Wednesday, you wrongfully talked with a double negative, Be calm for you are mostly correct, but start being more direct in laying culpability of these ideological incursionists that do not have any respect for traditions nor traditional Americans. History is only repeating itself and someone more consdervative tha even you will soon come along for it is obvious that some strong leadership and teachings are necessary to put the USA back on it’s feet, as before the invasion and intellectual conquest and control of thinking occurred here.

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:26 pm 85. richard fusilier:

My advice to Rush 1. Lose some weight. You look (and sometimes act like a buffoon) and today, Wednesday, you wrongfully talked with a double negative, Be calm for you are mostly correct, but start being more direct in laying culpability of these ideological incursionists that do not have any respect for traditions nor traditional Americans. History is only repeating itself and someone more conservative tha even you will soon come along for it is obvious that some strong leadership and teachings are necessary to put the USA back on it’s feet, as before the invasion and intellectual conquest and control of thinking occurred here.

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:27 pm 86. G Alston:

#73 — From what I know from personal experience about the computer revolution of the 60s and 70s and about today’s innovators…

I have been in this field since the 70’s (I’m elderly like you) and most everyone I have ever worked with tend to be moderates or centrists.

“Progressives” are harder left types like the idiots who think they can replace coal with windmills, the imbeciles who protest nuke plants, stump for $5/gal gas tax, socialised (taxpayer forced rape) healthcare, and so on. They’re anti-progress luddites. I can’t help but laugh anytime I see that term, which is an oxymoron by definition. But then again it’s how most writers are using it!

YOU may have intended the term as something meaning “moderate” which I see as being neither overtly left nor right but generally more right than left in fiscal leanings and generally more left than right in social leanings. (If so we’re in violent agreement. If not then I have no idea what your definition you are working under.)

Most of the people I have worked with and most of those I work with now tend to be more this way than either of the extremes. (And to be fair the few Limbaugh fan types are known to be pretty crappy engineers… hmmm.) So is this a quibble re definitions?

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:31 pm 87. MikeD:

If they show up Shrubnose I’m sure we will have a nice conversation. You and your friends have not repealed the first amendment yet and saying I support armed insurrection is not likely to land me in jail with Bubba. However, it might be interesting to talk to Bubba to discover how his previous experience with anal intercourse spawned you.

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:41 pm 88. NWMA:

Rush has extended a offer to have a debate. Obammy will decline with out his teleprompter he is CLUELESS.

He knows he stands no chance against anyne who uses truth. So bicker, banter and belly ache all you want.

The fact remains, obama is a coward and a traitor.

Viva the Rusholution!

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:41 pm 89. Pat J:

Rush and his knuckle-dragging regressive dittoheads are more afraid Obama will actually succeed.

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:43 pm 90. Steve P.:

DavidN says: “Hopefully, no one will notice that Limbaugh has no political power and can’t work on legislation or anything else. This will serve to distract the public long enough that the extra spending and the high taxes that result will become part of American life before anyone notices.”

Sure, Rush is just an AM radio jockey beloved by truck drivers, angry white guys and other people who don’t work (because who the eff else is listening to AM radio during the day?), but to say that he has no political power is naive and disingenuous. What about Operation Chaos? Wasn’t that a huge political success for Limbaugh?

Mar 4, 2009 - 1:54 pm 91. G Alston:

#90 — What about Operation Chaos? Wasn’t that a huge political success for Limbaugh?

Obviously not. Never heard of it until just now.

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:18 pm 92. whyyeseyec:

All 82 previous replies miss the point entirely. The dems don`t care how much money they spend or what it is spent on. That is merely a distraction.

The end game is total control over American society from cradle to grave. That is all that matters to them.

The Constitution means nothing to DC.

Only power over We the People

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:18 pm 93. shrubnose:

MikeD said (at Mar. 4-12) : “But if America becomes socialist and it is well on it’s way, then I hope it fails spectacularly and I will do and promote all I personally can to assure that result, including armed opposition” WOW. Here we have a real live right wing terrorist who has made a public statement about the harm he intends to do to the USA. Who does MikeD intend to shoot during this “armed opposition” ? Will he let the women and children flee before he starts blasting away ? He should give us more details. But, in any case he has said enough to be charged under the Smith Act ( which he should read). He will probably be charged for conspiracy, since this is easy to prove and he has provided the evidence already . Bubba is waiting for him at the greybar hotel. None are so dumb as those who ( like MikeD ! What a maroon ! ) open their mouth before they turn their brain on ! Have a nice day, MikeD .

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:23 pm 94. shrubnose:

MikeD, the 1st Amendment does NOT protect those who have, like you, violated the Smith Act. You should read the Smith Act and buy some vaseline. Bubba is waiting for you. Have a nice day.

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:32 pm 95. MikeD:

Sorry about mis-estimating your age Chichawoda. Apparently, rather than young, you are just plain stupid for you clearly did not listen to what Limbaugh actually said. You need to do that rather than accept what Steve P, and Shrubnose the halfwit say he said. And yes, frankly, I am/was against most of the bailouts you mention. Failure should be allowed to occur when incompetence, malfeasance, and crookedness create it. In the past with those you mention and today.

Social Security is an unfortunate ponzi scheme attributable to FDR who was also, arguably, a disaster for America. SS exists today primarily to enable Democrat politicians (who refuse to fix the program’s deficiencies)to scare little old ladies on the edge of dementia into voting for them. Government, however, DOES HAVE a legitimate responsibility to provide for the common good and protection of the citizenry through the armed forces, the police and fire departments so you do get credit for getting one thing right; but government should not be in the business of supporting the poor, the indolent, the lazy, the stupid who acquire mortgages they have no prayer of repaying, morons who acquire $25,000 in credit card debt, those who irresponsibly did not provide for their own retirement, and the other pathetic victim groups liberals pander to in order to maintain their self-serving, elitist power base while robbing the rest of us who play by the rules of our freedoms.

And, finally, the only two times armed insurrection was used in any viable manner was in 1776, when it turned out reasonably well, and in 1860 when it did not (depending on your perspective). You are grasping at straws and showing again your ignorance. On the other hand, maybe a third time is justified. Oooops….better tell Shrubnose the halfwit to call out the FBI again.

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:34 pm 96. James:

DEAR “G ALSTON”: You’re a plant. You surf websites, such as the present, and put forth BS opinions in the cause of helping your leftie buddies. The country is “centrist”? Everyone I’ve spoke to (and I mean eveyone, including the nit-wits who voted for Obama) have grave fears over Obama’s economic policies. “Centrists” we are not. We’re not far right bombs throwers, but that is a small bunch to begin with. Our kids are more conservative, are more relgious, and are simply better humans than the crap that came out of the 60’s. Face it, Obama is a blip in the road, the culmination of what all the crazy 60’s era, guilt ridden, spoiled brats have worked for over the last 35+ years. Obama’s crazy stimulus (Or what I refer to as the “Obama Spend Our Way into Social Dependence Progam”) is nothing but a last ditch, Sol Alinsky inspired attempt to force socialism on a conservative population. And it’s be the end once a few more million people wake up. Now go have a latte and read the “Arts” section of the Seattle Times, you jackball.

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:37 pm 97. Phoenix48:

“Steve P, Chichawoda, Shrubnose, and others of similar response are young” – I don’t know about the others but I’m quite old.

Then you have NO EXCUSE! You didn’t learn squat from the Nixon/Ford/Carter years – a lost decade – which Pelosi & Reid are determined to repeat.

Fact is when Reagan took office in 1980 he had 10+ million more votes than Carter and took 44 states to Jimmy’s 6. Obama has presumed a ‘mandate’ this past election didn’t hand him. Reagans deficit spending was heavily slanted towards defense spending – which did create jobs – private sector jobs. By ‘84 all sectors of the economy were hiring not firing and the inflation scourge was scuttled.

Obama’s plans call for the greatest jobs creation in government – federal state and local. He claims to be ‘prioritizing’ with housing, health care, and energy.
It’s a charade to claim it has any priorities other than massive spending – everywhere possible.

Obama and his ‘team of rivals’ have spent the past twenty years claiming that supply-side economics was the problem – and crass class warfare types suck it up. Americans were convinced ( or scared enough) to look past his Chicago roots and bona fides as the most liberal person ever to run for office.

Now were all stuck with him. All we hear is ‘it will take time’ from all his appointee’s – well we have a schedule – it’s the ‘10 congressional elections. By then we will have a verdict on whether he is ‘transformational’ or flash in the frying pan.

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:38 pm 98. miriam jaffe:

It’s so simple. We have Ron Paul. We should just throw our support behind him. If we put up a wishy washy moderate Republican and win, what have we really won? I would rather put up a Ron Paul candidate, or some one else with real principles, and lost to a Marxist like Obama, I’m not afraid of him, his program cannot succeed and the voters will get exactly what they deserve, until they learn.

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:49 pm 99. G Alston:

#93 — Here we have a real live right wing terrorist who has made a public statement about the harm he intends to do to the USA.

Take a laxative. MikeD has a point. If government goon squads are coming to take your deer hunting rifle away from you, they’re violating the 2nd amendment, and the founding fathers intended that we are armed SPECIFICALLY to have a way to reject tyrranical government. As such he’s merely reaffirming his duty as a citizen.

There’s no style points taken away merely because he comes off like an imbecile. It’s not illegal to be stupid or write poorly.

You, on the other hand, are coming off as little more than a rabid, accusatory, shit-stirring creep. Go bother the Kos people.

Mar 4, 2009 - 2:49 pm 100. TOhio:

Rush Limbaugh has the facts straight – President Obama is a leftist radical whose real plan is to destroy capitalism and make the government in charge of everything (of course, with the Democrats in charge).

Obama lies, CNN and MSNBC spins it and Rush Limbaugh exposes them. This is the true reason for the hullaballoo.

Does the left argue based on the facts? No. They call Rush Limbaugh names and try to marginalize him.

Think about Joe the Plumber, Rick Santelli, Sean Hannity and you’ll see a pattern with Obama and his minions. They’re following the Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals” playbook everyday – Rule #13 “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Here’s an excellent article from a conservative standpoint about using these same Alinksy rules against the liberals themselves:
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/03/03/rules-for-conservative-radicals-1.php#more

Mar 4, 2009 - 3:10 pm 101. Mike:

I’m waiting for the Rush and Obama debate. Rush laid down the challenge. Will Obama accept? No chance of that happening.

Obama is nothing but a puppet with many pulling his strings.

Mar 4, 2009 - 3:12 pm 102. PAR:

Why is everyone focused on Obama. Pelosi is the “brains” of the Democrats. She has been telling BO what to do since he came to power. While getting the spending bill together there was talk that BO was trying to stop some of her spending but not long after he was praising her leadership. Next thing you know she will have him carrying her purse. Of course BO could always send Rahm Emanuel over to carry it, he doesn’t appear to be overly busy.

Mar 4, 2009 - 3:51 pm 103. shrubnose:

MikeD- you appear to be too ignorant to understand that it is not your terroristic threat of armed opposition to the US government that is most likely to get you prison time. It’s the conspiracy. This is easy to prove. Since YOU have provided the proof. As I have said, you should read the Smith Act. The 1st Amendment will NOT protect you from punishment under the Smith Act for the crime you have committed. You should turn yourself in at your local police station. That would be the safest thing for you and your family. In any case have as nice a day as any far Reich-wing ant-American terrorist deserves. May you continue to live in interesting times until you receive that which you richly deserve.

Mar 4, 2009 - 4:15 pm 104. shrubnose:

MikeD- you appear to be too ignorant to understand that it is not your terroristic threat of armed opposition to the US government that is most likely to get you prison time. It’s the conspiracy. This is easy to prove. Since YOU have provided the proof. As I have said, you should read the Smith Act. The 1st Amendment will NOT protect you from punishment under the Smith Act for the crime you have committed. You should turn yourself in at your local police station. That would be the safest thing for you and your family. In any case have as nice a day as any far Reich-wing anti-American terrorist deserves. May you continue to live in interesting times until you receive that which you richly deserve.

Mar 4, 2009 - 4:18 pm 105. Roark:

Michael Steele is an idiot and Obama is an idiot. We need Rush now more than ever.

Mar 4, 2009 - 4:30 pm 106. shrubnose:

MikeD – Time marches on. Rapidly changing demographics will soon wash you and those like you aside, like a tidal wave. You can not stop this, unless you can stop us coloured people from having children. By 2042 non-white voters will be the majority in the USA. And we will NOT be voting for those who hate, fear and despise us. Think about it. Where does that leave people like you, MikeD ? I’ll tell you – on the outside looking in . Deal with it. Your best bet ? Learn to get along with people.

Mar 4, 2009 - 4:53 pm 107. Tex Taylor:

Man, anybody with an ounce of sense ought to be able to see through this ruse of Emanuel, Begala and the rest of the Dim toadies. It’s the status quo of every election season only this time it is a little harder to hide, being America is quickly sinking into the abyss. And the Dimocratic party is the collective weight around the neck.

This is nothing but diversion to get everyone’s eye off the miserable failure of the Jimmy Obama party. It took all of six weeks to show their ideas abject failures. How much further down the S&P need to slide before even the rubes understand this idiot’s plans are going down in flames, and the guy is a closet Marxist?

I hope PJM calls their bluff every time and this article was a good start.

Thanks to you Adam Graham. Job well done.

Mar 4, 2009 - 5:35 pm 108. MikeD:

Shrubnose, I was going to ignore your senseless blatherings and let you continue to make a fool of yourself. As a matter of fact, following this final rejoinder I will do just that. I have scraped better than you off by my boot after crossing the corral. That you trumpet your color in your last comment tells me everything I needed to know. You are just a sorry, racist piece of sh*t. You undoubtedly voted for Obama because he was black. I voted against him because he was a slimey, socialist empty suit. I had good reasons for my vote–you, clearly, did not. My decision looks better every day. Yours will be discredited with each passing moment. Had MLK known you he probably would have shot himself. FOAD.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:05 pm 109. rotto:

Note to the RNC.

I will not waste my vote on another “moderate” (what ever that means) like Dole, Bush, McCain. If that is all you give us in the next election, I will vote third party with the hopes that the Republican party withers and dies on the vine – as quickly as possible.

Today’s Republican Party in nothing more than Democrat lite…

Go Rush!

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:22 pm 110. HT:

106. shrubnose:

“… unless you can stop us coloured people from having children. By 2042 non-white voters will be the majority in the USA. And we will NOT be voting for those who hate, fear and despise us.”

This says all we need to know about you. We do not care if you are coloured, or even colored. But, as is usual, on cue, never fear the race card will trump all.

Mar 4, 2009 - 6:49 pm 111. tanstaafl:

Republicans worried about Rush Limbaugh costing the GOP votes need to get in touch with reality.

The Republican party is (or should be) about a set or principles that Rush Limbaugh intelligently espouses.

This country was founded on principles and not on the identity politics that (some) Republicans say we have to indulge in to gain (political) support from this group, that group, the other group, blacks, women, gays, whomever.

Principles cut across groups. If conservatives forget/ignore principles, they’re dead in the water and everyone becomes everyone else.

Limbaugh is probably the best spokesperson for this idea alive today.

Mar 4, 2009 - 7:47 pm 112. ked5:

#106

I thought that was why planned parenthood puts most of it’s abortion clinics in “BLACK” neighborhoods.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:45 pm 113. Deborah:

I’ve been listening to Rush since August 1988, and in all those years, his message has never changed. The sweetest water comes from the well you dig yourself.

Mar 4, 2009 - 9:50 pm 114. tommyd:

I guess it is better for the current administration to have the media spend their time talking about Limbaugh, beats them talking about the current financial fiasco.
Misdirection is all it is.

Mar 4, 2009 - 10:11 pm 115. rotto:

Classic strategy of the tyrant – demonize a group or a person to focus the attention of the stupid masses on anything but the failures of the tyrant’s leadership. More proof that Obama is a Marxist and is surrounded by Marxists.

Mar 4, 2009 - 10:12 pm 116. lee:

A great number of minority (especially older generation and Latinos) are social and religious conservatives. Prop 8 passed with great minority support. They support the dems because the lefists successfully cater to their sense of entitlements, victimhood mentality, and open border wishes. Vietnamese and other Asians are always sympathetic to the GOP due to their historic anti communism stand.

It’s a total myth that conservatives are a dying breed, although the younger generation will be indeed less conservative. The GOP just bumbles away opportunity to attract church / mass attending Latinos who should be their most reliable voting base.

Centrist parties like the libertarians can barely escape the Ralph Nader Zone when it comes to popular vote. Mind you, most libertarians are pro abortion, anti war, pro gay marriage and legalization of drugs. But they fight against welfare and big govt. entitlement programs (unions too) and that’s reason enough for leftists and “moderates” to not approach them. I find the notion of a pro choice, big govt GOP candidate winning a landslide with tremendous “moderate” support laughable.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:48 am 117. eurabitopian:

Michael Steele (whose only steel seems to be in his name) says “I was maybe a little bit inarticulate.” At least that’s something that Rush can’t be accused of and furthermore what’s with the past simple “was”? Surely the present simple “am” would be more, err, umm, articulawhatyamacallit.

Mar 5, 2009 - 1:51 am 118. acj:

When Rush says he wants Obama to fail, it shows just how the republicans are about the other parties agenda. When George Bush declared war on Iraq, you didn’t see the democrats wanting him to fail at Iraq.
And of course republicans want to see this fail, because if we ever get out of this mess, the republicans will never be elected again-they are terrible with handling the checkbook!

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:54 am 119. tommyd:

acj:

what a joke,
It is the Obama administration that wants to silence the opposition.

Why is that??

Is that the way you want to live from now forward? What if your views become the ones that are determined to be Not for public consumption?

It was Obama that told Congressional members that they could not expect to work with his administration if they continue to “Listen to Rush Limbaugh”.

Open you eyes

How come when the shoe was on the other foot we were treated to the famous Hillary rant about her being “Sick & Tired” of being called unpatriotic for voicing opposition to the administration but now that it is a Dem in the oval office that same opposition is not to be tolerated or allowed???

what’s up with that???

the left is acting like a bunch of thug 3rd world Marxist wannabe’s.

Hey Hugo Chavez has already done all this stuff, He’s a couple of years ahead of your Messiah.

Obama is in reality a very small man.

Mar 5, 2009 - 6:27 am 120. Cichawoda:

“Republicans this week are processing two sobering new polls that found the party’s support reduced to a slim one-quarter of Americans. In the absence of a popular elected leader, its most visible figure is a polarizing radio host. Its strategic powerhouse is a still-divisive former House speaker forced from power 15 years ago.

And its hopes of demonstrating swift and visible change by pushing people of color to the fore have been dented by the stumbles of the party’s two most prominent non-white leaders, national Chairman Michael Steele and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.”

Rush is showing up the true colors of the Republican party and the religious right to the American people. And we don’t like you, your myopic self interest and your hate driven by fear and ignorance.

MikeD: lay of the cheap brandy – it makes you sound like Archy.

Mar 5, 2009 - 7:09 am 121. Cichawoda:

119. tommyd:
“opposition is not to be tolerated or allowed” – what are you talking about?

“It’s great for us, great for him, great for the press,” he said of Limbaugh. “The only people he’s not good for are the actual Republicans in Congress.” James Carville

Rush – keep talking nobody is trying to shut you up. I our own way we love you and your 11% approval rating with Americans under 40.

Mar 5, 2009 - 7:32 am 122. Dissenting Justice:

Here’s the perspective of a liberal who thinks this is just disgusting: http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/03/rush-new-bush.html

Mar 5, 2009 - 8:24 am 123. Volubrjotr:

I am flabbergasted at the foot note to this article.

“Republicans worried about Rush Limbaugh costing the GOP votes need to get in touch with reality.”

To see this type of thinking continue even after the democrats mopped up the floor with spinless Republicans is unbelievable. This clearly shows to me that Democrats set the MEDIA stage and Republicnas CONSISTENTLY practice DEFENSE instead of OFFENSE.

Republicans better get a clue and start getting into the face of the G.E. controlled MSNBC, NBC, ABC, and other networks like Fox. I have to hand it to the Democrats. They had nothing to bring to the table, so they blocked President Bush’s proposal for a Regulatory Oversight Agency on Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac in 2003. This allowed the Democrats to average out America by self hate. Then in 2005, the Democrats again blocked S.190 which also would have prevented the bilking of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac causing an financial implosion.

Now the stage was set for the Democrats thru G.E. (who is in collusion with Obama to be America’s main Government provider) to begin the media propaganda Blitz Krieg against the wimpy Republicans. Yes McCain can count himself in that category by always trying to appease the self hating Democrats who are rampant w/o self control.

For EVIL to exist requires that Good Men Do Nothing and with this foot note, “Republicans worried about Rush Limbaugh costing the GOP votes need to get in touch with reality.” Either the Democratic Media Machine is dictating how we should perceive ourselves as insecure wimps or the author of the above article is still believing Republicans cannot represent themselves unless it is approved first by the Main Stream Media (MSM) controlled by G.E.

Rush Limbaugh was succinct in rallying the True Spirit Of this Federated Republic.

Mar 5, 2009 - 8:52 am 124. Pat J:

The GOP is led by an overweight, drug-addicted, thrice-divorced, sexist, racist, college dropout. Makes one wonder.

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:13 am 125. tommyd:

quote:

Pat J:

The GOP is led by an overweight, drug-addicted, thrice-divorced, sexist, racist, college dropout. Makes one wonder.

I find responses like this a bit troubling, Just what does this statement say about this poster??

He/she obviously Hates Fat people, that’s discrimination obviously, he/she hates anyone who has used drugs, it is a fact Rush no longer has a substance abuse problem, of course it must have been just fine and dandy that Obama was a SELF ADMITTED COCAINE USER, but some how that is different
Any of you that are divorced forget being this persons friend as you obviously fall short of this persons standards.
If you harbor ANY sexist thoughts you are not worthy.
Racist?? that’s not even close to being accurate but those that judge others with no actual fact usually are incorrect in their assumptions.
And last but not least Rush Dropped out of college.

I guess that puts Rush in the company of the following :

Bill Gates,
Michael Dell,
William Faulkner (Nobel & Pulitzer prize winning author),
Ben Franklin (only had 2 years of formal schooling),
Poet Robert Frost,
R. Buckminister Fuller (expelled from Harvard twice never finished)
Woody Allen (thrown out of NY University for poor grades, dropped out of City College of NY)
Julie Andrews (Oscar winning actress dropped out of high school)
Louis (Louie) Armstrong famous jazz musician.
Irving Berlin Oscar winner, wrote such as God Bless America, White Christmas.
Ray Bradbury (never went to college)
Winston Churchill never attended college.
Charles Culpeper owner & CEO of Coca Cola dropped out of H/S
Walt Disney dropped out of H/S
George Eastman inventor & founder of Kodak H/S dropout
Bobby Fischer chess master h/s DO
George Gershwin
J. Paul Getty once richest man in the world.
Woopi Goldberg daytime tv genius.
Peter Jennings FAILED the 10th grade. H/S dropout
Steve Jobs Apple CEO
Ingvar Kamprad billionaire, founder of IKEA, dyslexic never attended college
Charles Lindberg
Ted Turner
Mark Twain
George Washington
Tiger Woods
Frank Loyd Wright
Orville & Wilbur Wright

Albert Einstein dropped out @ age 15…….

the list goes on an on.

oh and you would not believe how many of the lefts worshipped hollywood crowd are on the dropout list.

The op (pat) is obviously superior to all on that list….

Mar 5, 2009 - 11:57 am 126. deguello:

PAT J. 124: Even assuming that your sewer of a post is true;that’s still far better than a Democrat President who is a marxoid street thug/drugdealer,who can’t speak without a teleprompter,and whose knowledge about how the economy works is less than that of a retarded slug.Your (fictional) description of Rush:”drug addicted,thrice divorced,sexist,racist,college dropout”,matches almost exactly the profile of voters who constitute the OHOLE’s inner city base, except for the marriage part,they just have kids out of wedlock(future,welfare-dependent democrats); and the schooling, they drop out of high schoo1).It’s also a pretty good description of Ted Kennedy ,who only had one divorce,but murdered one of his molls.How many schools did you drop out of before you were placed in Special Education class for retarded psychopaths?

Mar 5, 2009 - 12:11 pm 127. Pat J:

Oop! I forgot big hypocrite. Sorry.

“There’s nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up,” Mr. Limbaugh declared on his radio show on October 5th, 1995.***

“I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication.” – October, 10, 2003.

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:03 pm 128. shrubnose:

If Rush Limbaugh and his redneck cult can’t finish the destruction of the GOP that GW Bush and the neocons made a good start on – well I guess we will just have to wait until changing demographics turns most red states blue. That day is coming !

Mar 5, 2009 - 2:49 pm 129. tommyd:

#127 Pat J

Would you care to produce any legit Court document showing where Limbaugh was convicted in any court of any violation of any law???

Please I’d be interested to see that.

I didn’t think so….

A person with character will face the fact and admit where they went wrong and take necessary steps to make it right. All of which Mr. Limbaugh did.

You might ought to try applying your simplistic little mind set to members of your own chosen political persuasion… although you wouldn’t like the results…

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:08 pm 130. Will:

Nothing is gained by moderate and over the fence thinking. Traditional Conservatism is the only way out of this mess.

Mar 5, 2009 - 4:34 pm 131. Pat J:

128. tommyd:
————
He wasn’t convicted. But he adhered to the position that anyone who abuses drugs should be incarcerated. And he opined this position to around 13 million people daily.

And Republicans look to him for leadership?

Mar 5, 2009 - 6:08 pm 132. G Alston:

129 — Would you care to produce any legit Court document showing where Limbaugh was convicted in any court of any violation of any law???

Are you saying Limbaugh wasn’t addicted to oxycontin? That he wasn’t buying it illegally? That he didn’t violate FL law with multiple prescriptions? Does the lack of conviction because he’s rich and famous make this untrue? What colour is the sky where you live?

Meanwhile, his rants were about people addicted to drugs, not disposition about the ones who have been convicted. You sort of conveniently managed to leave that part out. So did he. I’m shocked.

Mar 5, 2009 - 8:50 pm 133. tommyd:

Read what I said again instead of trying to do the liberal spin.
Whatever law(s) might have been broken the prosecution determined they could not prove it in open court. Or they would have.
What because Limbaugh is conservative he is to be denied the protection of our legal system?
I guess that is how you would like it but that is not how it works..yet.

Limbaugh unlike most from the left had the courage to admit his addiction and confront it in a adult manner and took the necessary actions to defeat the addiction which he successfully did.

He could have done like heros from the left do.
Let’s see here, Clinton lied under oath, I do believe a federal judge said so , had his law license revoked, made numerous public statements that were proven to be lies. He did this for months costing the taxpayers millions when all he had to do was admit what he had done and it would have been over. No one cares he was getting the Lewinsky treatment… But try to cover up, why politicians continually do that I don’t know..( well they are basically chicken sh*ts i guess)
No he had to wag his finger and give us all his best how dare you look… “I did not have sexual relations with That woman….

Teddy Kennedy committed what drunken vehicular manslaughter? and ran away like a scared high school kid to his should I say rather wealthy family for protection and is well known to still be a drunk. Had a dog named Splash, bet he thought that was funny.

yet the left holds people like this out as examples of the best they have to offer….

get a life and clean up your own backyard.

Mar 5, 2009 - 10:15 pm 134. G Alston:

#133 — Read what I said again instead of trying to do the liberal spin.

Wow, so if I don’t like Limbaugh and find him to be a lying, vacuous, hypocritical twit, it’s obvious that I must be some sort of marxist. I couldn’t possibly be a republican. After all, everyone knows that all republicans are dittoheads and worship the water his Rushness walks on.

Get a clue, wingnut.

Mar 5, 2009 - 11:08 pm 135. deguello:

ShruBnose: Wishful thinking will not keep Rush from what you and Pat J fear the most: A reenergized,militant conservative movement that will liberate the nation from a hopelessly incompetent marxoid thug.

Mar 6, 2009 - 5:33 am 136. deguello:

#134 G ALSTONED You are not a marxist,that would take brains; you are just another petty liberal cretin, whom Rush daily and successfully mocks.

Mar 6, 2009 - 5:36 am 137. acj:

Rush makes $200,000,000.00. Do you really think he wants Joe the plumber to think on his own, and tax the rich? Do you think he wants people to get healthcare? Government healthcare is what every military person receives and also the president….also every congress and senator. Healthcare reform will cure our economy. Greed is what fuels it now…that is why YOU can’t afford it.
Do you think Rush really likes people that are suckers? He hate suckers….but whoever listens to him and gets caught up in his frenzy are what? SUCKERS.

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:33 am 138. Horace Wells:

As much as I don’t like Rush for his bullying, shallow, often dishonest style of framing issues, as well as his monstrous vanity, I dislike the Democrats using Congress to denounce him way more. It’s one thing to personally counter attack him, but to bully others to denonce and disown him is unacceptable.

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:46 am 139. Horace Wells:

Rush was a virutal mouthpiece for Bush in Bush’s eight years, did he even question the folly of the War in Iraq or any of the other Bush eff ups? All he did was label any critic of any Bush’s manifold screw ups as BDS, or leftists yadda yaddda. Real titan of integrity and introspection there. His “Operation Chaos” during the 2008 primaries was certainly as unethical as it was unwise. This idea that he is some great thinker based on his popularity, his bullying, his simplistic issue framing and his slick radio speaking style is bunk. He is a little more than a bag of liberal baiting cliches and simplistic knee jerk comments, the prototype for most of today’s cons.

Mar 6, 2009 - 7:55 am 140. deguello:

#139 I owe you an apology;thanks for demonstrating an understanding of what the first amendment is all about.I cannot stand Al Franken,but both he and Air America have the right to attack the right as much as they want to.

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:28 am 141. deguello:

ACJ#137: Yes, Rush despises people that are suckers,ACJ,that’s why he despises Obama voters.FDR was a multimillionaire,and he seemed pretty sincere in trying to help the destitute. You want to trust your life to the same corrupt degenerates, that have banrupted social security,and medicare,gave away welfare mortgages that destroyed our banking systemand tanked the dow.It seems to me,dear ACJ,that the biggest sucker here is you!.

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:38 am 142. deguello:

#104:Shrubnose: you finally revealed yourself as the stalinist you really are! Under your precious Smith act, thomas Jefferson would have been imprisoned for his famous quote about needing periodic revolutions to refresh the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants, Like all liberals,you reserve the right to withdraw the first amendment frrm those who disagree with you. With typical stupidity the Ohole,and his white house thugs,have embedded Rush into the nationaldebate,raising the number of his listeners.You will not shut him up,nor us,but I would be the last person to stop a liberal from indulging in mean-spirited fantasies!SCATCH A LIBERAL:FIND A STALINIST!

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:47 am 143. deguello:

#124 PAT J WROTE (LIBELLED: The gop is led by an overweight,thrice -divorced,sexist,racist,college drop out.Makes one wonder. Yes indeed, except for divorce(they typically never marry),and dropping out of college(they typically drop out of high school),this description is a proyection of the nature of the average Obama male,inner-city voter…..Or Teddy Kennedy,without the murder by drowning bit.

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:54 am 144. deguello:

SHRUBNOSE: apropos your posts 103, 104. Sieg Heil! You would have loved nazi germany;especially the socialist,and gestapo bits!

Mar 6, 2009 - 8:58 am 145. deguello:

#139 Apology retracted! interested readers, see end of thread on the SHAIDLE’sarticle on leftist sympathy for tyrants.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:13 am 146. tommyd:

Alston,

I can understand someone not liking Limbaugh. That’s easy to do and everyone has their right to choose with whom the associate themselves with whether it be an actual personal relationship or Ideologically.
Personally I believe the prescription drug thing was blown way out of proportion however when confronted he did the right thing.
He stopped doing what he was doing, undertook successful treatment, and made financial restitution to pay for the gov’s cost of the investigation.
I believe the Clinton Lewinsky deal was also blown way out but Clinton chose NOT to do the right thing resulting in millions of dollars of taxpayers money spent on a useless investigation and who really knows what business of the countries was hurt by the distraction of it all.
Maybe he would have nailed Bin Laden had he not been distracted who knows?
The whole affair did cause harm to the country and why just because the man would not accept responsibility.

I also find it unlikely that you believe that Limbaugh is a “Far Right wing Conservative.” His ideas are not far right, If he was I would not support him.
The MSM & the left have for years tried to paint him as a Far Right winger but that is simply not accurate any more than saying Pres. Clinton was a left wing wacko.
I do not support wackos from either side I am a conservative. (left the rep. party 5 years ago)
The MSM with the left try to paint middle of the road conservatives as being way out right while trying to move the perception that mainstream liberalism is centrist. Both false premises.
So the fact you do not like Limbaugh matters not to me but if you want to claim he is a far right loon then I disagree.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:39 am 147. shrubnose:

ANYONE who “thinks” they are going to use any means other than the ballot box to change the US government the majority of voters elected will need more help than they are likely to get from Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh will not join you in your “armed opposition”. Call him and ask him if he will join you at the barricades in this mad anti-American idea ! I don’t think he is as crazy as some of you ditto-heads are. Have a nice day.

Mar 6, 2009 - 11:52 am 148. Pat J:

deguello = pendejo

Mar 6, 2009 - 1:23 pm 149. G Alston:

146 — Personally I believe the prescription drug thing was blown way out of proportion…

It proves he’s a hypocrite. If he had any integrity he would have volunteered for jail time like those stuck in the same position as he was but instead he ranted about them on the airwaves. He has no integrity. The left uses this to their advantage. If he had any brains he’d know this and step aside, or defer speaking engagements like CPAC. But he doesn’t. That moron invited, nay, BEGGED the left to stomp him. This was his vanity. He’s willing to sully the image of all republicans for his own vanity. He thinks he can win; he’s since challenged a sitting president to a debate.

Meanwhile the dittoheads and assorted bootlickers are too busy cackling over their hero to notice that the American people don’t seem amused. They’re idealogues and blinded by it.

I’m not sure why you mentioned certain things, but let’s make something clear: Clinton had no integrity. Ted Kennedy can’t spell the word. It’s doubtful Obama has any understanding of it whatsoever. Knowing that Limbaugh is a hypocrite and saying so doesn’t mean that one works for the other side.

Mar 6, 2009 - 2:05 pm 150. shrubnose:

At #142 deguello has. among oter things, Jeffersons quote wrong. Actually Thomas Jefferson wrote ; ” The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of PATROITS and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” This is a quote taken out of context from a letter Jefferson wrote to William S. Smith, John Adams secretary and future son-in-law. At the time Jefferson was US minister to France, living in Paris. This letter was written 7 months before the US constitution was ratified. Present US law was not in effect at that time . Without reading the full letter, and knowing the history of the “Shays Rebellion” ( which the letter is refering to ) AND what was going on in the world at the time Jefferson wrote the letter no one can appreciate what Jefferson meant. Thomas Jefferson NEVER advocated “armed opposition” to the US government. Do YOU advocate armed opposition to the US government, deguello, as MikeD does at #72 ? We need to know these things . Have a nice day.

Mar 6, 2009 - 4:13 pm 151. Cichawoda:

125. tommyd:
Why do you people always resort on lies and distortion:

“Albert Einstein dropped out @ age 15″ – The Einsteins sent Albert to Aarau, Switzerland to finish secondary school. At age 17 he graduated, and enrolled in 1896 in the mathematics and physics program at the Polytechnic in Zurich. Einstein graduated in 1900 a diploma in mathematics and physics.

“Winston Churchill never attended college” – After Churchill left Harrow in 1893, he applied to attend the Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst, he graduated eighth out of a class of 150 in December 1894.

“George Washington” – Moving to Ferry Farm in Stafford County at age six, he was educated in the home by his father and older brother. – are you saying that home schooling is like droping out?

the list goes on an on.

Mar 6, 2009 - 6:20 pm 152. Hal:

Obama will not debate Rush Limbaugh. Obama cannot say a logical statement without his teleprompter. The question that should be answered is, “who is the Wizard of Ooze”, behind the telepromter.

Mar 7, 2009 - 12:31 am 153. one of my own:

152 Hal . . . debate Obama. Rush doesn’t even have the Limballs to debate Campbell Brown, for godsake. The guy is all gas.

Mar 7, 2009 - 10:01 pm 154. shrubnose:

Mr Limbaugh should get off the Oxycontin and face reality – We have already had the only debate that matters. On November 4, 2009 the American people sent a clear message to the GOP: ” You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!” ( Oliver Cromwell 1635 ) What more needs to be said ? Other than, don’t let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you, hit the road and don’t look back. NO ONE is waving a fond goodbye to you losers ! In any case – have a nice day .

Mar 8, 2009 - 6:35 am 155. deguello:

#148 PatJ(JOKE) : I’m so happy you were able to look up a spanish word, and manage to spell it correctly Pat,your Speciel Ed. teacher is to be commended on her work!Now, if you can manage to get to the VD clinic,and take care of your other problem,maybe you’ll become a conservative!

Mar 8, 2009 - 5:34 pm 156. deguello:

Shrubnose: please don’t try insult us with petty shyster’s tricks about the meaning of jefferson’s quuotes. The quote means exactly what it says;it is a general priciple,and doesn’t depend on Parsing or context.!Your idea of political debate ending when An election decides a victor is totalitarian and hypocritical;by your standards you and the othter libs should have gone home and shut your traps when Bush won in 2004. This is typical of the lib mindset “We won, shut up,and we will destroy and censor your instruments of public dissent(talk radio),so there will be no debate,and I can consolidate my power. You even give the game away by quoting ,approvingly,England’d greatest thug and only military dictator Oliver Cromwell. SCRATCH A LIBERAL:FIND A STALINIST! FROM DEGUELLO’S RULES FOR THE CONSERVATIVE RSISTANCE. As for the other question; that depends on what you folks do.We will not have a Cromwell or a Hugo Chavez wannabee in the US.

Mar 8, 2009 - 5:54 pm 157. deguello:

SHRUBNOSE: How long have you been working as an FBI/informant provocateur? Wouldn’t it have been better just to take the rap for pedophilia and be done with it!

Mar 8, 2009 - 6:03 pm 158. shrubnose:

At #155 deguello is 100% off topic, he is a typical GOPer. If they do not have a good answer, they talk about something else. I’ll ask one more time – do you – “deguello” support MikeD at #72 with his ideas about “armed opposition” to the US government? We really need to know this, to understand how committed you are to your cause . You are not wishy-washy, are you ? Do you believe in your cause or not?

Mar 8, 2009 - 6:57 pm 159. shrubnose:

deguello at 156 is a mighty tough hombre, except when it comes to being a real man and saying exactly where he stands on an issue. He just will not say if he supports MikeD at 72 with his ideas about “armed opposition” to the elected US government. I think he is afraid to say where he stands on this. Is that one of deguello’s Rules for the Conservative Resistance : Hang tough until you meet resistance, then start using weasel words? Sounds like a pretty weak resistance to me. The GOP will soon be history. Have a nice day.

Mar 8, 2009 - 7:29 pm 160. deguello:

Sorry Shrub,you are a cheap provocateur,and an informant wannabee for Obama’s nascent police state. Anyone who has read my posts knows whereI stand vis avis resistance to government abuse and tyranny,how dense are you? But then,yousympathize with tyrants,and are a closet Stalinist.You do not deserve the time of day. #155 was not adressed to you or had anything to do with your real topic, of trying to provoke me into saying something that could be construed as treasonous.#156 did, and of course, you couldn’t reply;you lack the intellect.I would hardly call your pathetic attempts at provocation,”resistance”.Don’t flatter yourself. BTW hypocrite: Why don’t you answer my question ; Are you an FBI informant?

Mar 9, 2009 - 7:25 am 161. deguello:

#153ONE OF MY OWN?Calling Rush:” Limballs” just proves that you envy his set, and lack a set of your own;maybe under Obama care, they can graft a set on to your groin, and while they are at it, a brain as well.

Mar 9, 2009 - 7:29 am 162. shrubnose:

deguello appears to be a Timothy McVeigh clone. IF it comes down to a war between deguello and the government of the USA, I will be betting on the USA to come out on top . I am sure the vast majority of Americans, without regard to politics reject deguello’s radical ideas. In the USA we change our leaders with elections, not revolutions. deguello obviously needs professional help. He should go to his local police station and talk to the desk sergeant about his problems, he will be taken care of .

Mar 9, 2009 - 9:40 am 163. deguello:

SHRUBNOSE: Police this, FBI that,Quoting Cromwell,and shutting down post election debate, debate,the Smith act,turning people in to police stations for psychological problems(isn’t that what they did in the Soviet Union?): what a list of wishful thinking” “arguments”.You have revealed yourself for what you are: a lickspittle for a police state and informant who became one to avoid prosecution when the police caught him posting pictures of 5 year olds on the net,while wearing one of J.Edgar Hoover’s dresses.SCRATCH SHRUBNOSE; FIND A STALINIST! .

Mar 9, 2009 - 10:25 am 164. shrubnose:

I suppose most of these Timothy McVeigh clones, like MikeD and deguello, see them themselves as patriotic Americans. They are not happy with the government the majority put in power so they are going to change things. Not at the ballot boxes in the next election, but with guns and bombs.I don’t think Mr Rush Limbaugh will be there with them at the barricades. He will have better, more important, things to do at that time. Since you can’t negotiate with terrorists, I guess the only thing we can say to these misguided fools is, Bring It On ! ( as President Bush told those dead-enders in Iraq ). We will give you what you deserve and a little extra. I am betting on the USA winning this battle, IF it ever happens. Have a nice day.

Mar 9, 2009 - 1:27 pm 165. Oster:

@syn RE: ““The majority of voters are centrist.”

If this is true why then did Centrists reject McCain only to put an extreme-Progressive Leftist into power:”

I’m one of those centrists who went left, so I can at least tell you why I did. I preferred McCain up until two weeks before the election, and will not hesitate to extol his virtues to this day. I went left, nervously, because I saw how the GOP was directing McCain during the campaign, and realized we wouldn’t be putting McCain into office, so much as keeping the GOP in control; and we see where that led.

I also realized the important sociological effect of electing Obama on how Americans felt themselves, and how the world felt about America. I didn’t realize how profound the positive reaction worldwide would be.

Nevertheless, I am a centrist, and radical left and right make me nervous. I have no regrets at all for my vote, nor do I feel the sky is falling. GOP reactions drive me further away from them, and I’m certainly willing to give Obama 4 years to prove himself.

Mar 10, 2009 - 4:18 am 166. deguello:

You won’t have to wait that long, have you checked the economic news lately.The “important sociological effect”is only to prove that a bunch of poitical cretins, made hysterical,by an economic catastrophe engineereered by, Obama’s allies,elected a racist, incompetent marxoid thug with the economic knowledge of a retarded newt. You voted for this clown trying to get a rabble of terminally decadent europeans to like us?Speaking of “positive reactions from the euros”,the O’hole has already alienated the Brits with his amateurishly rude, gaffe-laden handling of Gordon Brown! The O’hole can’t even speak without a prompter. You are neither a centrist,nor even a crypto leftist hiding behind false respect for Mccain, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!a perfect example of what Mencken called:”BOOBUS AMERICANUS!

Mar 10, 2009 - 10:43 am 167. deguello:

#164 SHRUBNOSE: You continue to dishonestly mistate the discussion on this thread in order,to caricature the it as an attempt to plan a undemocratic putsch. No one here except your fellow libtards buys your argumnents.Go find someone else you can rat on, INFORMER!

Mar 10, 2009 - 10:52 am 168. Packeryman:

I am also betting on the USA. We will recover from this deregulated mess. Anytime a complex society that runs well, deregulates itself, it will self destruct. It will run from great booms to busts. We have just experienced this phenomeon. The Military-Industrial Complex misguided adventures disguised as fighting for Democracy and Freedom?, they all go wrong, we lost thousands of lives , with thousands more maimed for life. Iraq turned into an Occupation and we are still there, for what? Iraqs lost hundreds of thousands of lives, and over 2 million Iraqies became refugees. We did this to take out one bad guy? B.S. We will come out of the economic hole America has been buried in. You have to believe in America or leave. We do have a problem regaining the lost jobs in America. We were promised that free trade would help our economy, it has done just the opposite. Our trading defict has gone from bad to worst that free trade was started. We continually lose jobs. People then have to take lesser jobs. The free traders continue to tell us we are doing good, while it all crumbles around you. We have no industry and jobs to return to. The stimulus will work for a few short years but there are no jobs after the stimulus unless we began to rebuild and stop the robber barrons from leaving the country with our jobs for quick profits. Hopefully the day has passed that the public will stand by and let corporations rape the American people. The Republican party is going the way of the Whigs. The demographics are changing. Republicans will lose seats in congress in 2010 and lose the election in 2012. They have let a group of far righr conservatives take control of the party when Americans are in the middle of the political spectrum. Blacks, Latino’s and the youth of the nation don’t buy the old reactionary crap of the conservatives. You have another factor coming, and that is the reintroduction of McCain-Kennedy Comperhensive Immigration Bill(Amnesty). It will pass this time. That means 13 to 30 million new voters. They will vote Democrat. The same radical Latino groups that put 500,000 illlegals in the streets of L.A. will sign these people up for Democrats. Standby the change is coming and your far right ideaology wont change it.

Mar 11, 2009 - 9:21 pm 169. Don Rhudy:

I’m reading plenty of milquetoasts writing here, not to rule out morons as well. Anyone who suggests that “moderate Republicans” can win is blind, can’t read, or understand the socialist news. Every time a “moderate Republican” runs, Republicans lose. When “conservative Republicans” run, the species also called Genunine Americans, Republicans win. The rest of you so-called Americans need to move over to the socialist Democrat Party and get out of the way of patriots.

Mar 28, 2009 - 7:34 pm