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		<title>By: thepen</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nodak, you&#039;ve managed to reach a new level of absurdity ... 

imagine for a moment -

&quot;journalist&quot;, &quot;responsibilities&quot;, &quot;obligations&quot;,&quot;courtesy&quot;, &quot;professional ethic&quot;, &quot;ethic is taken seriously at newspapers&quot; ... all in the preamble of your last post - brings new meaning to the word oxymoron!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nodak, you&#8217;ve managed to reach a new level of absurdity &#8230; </p>
<p>imagine for a moment -</p>
<p>&#8220;journalist&#8221;, &#8220;responsibilities&#8221;, &#8220;obligations&#8221;,&#8221;courtesy&#8221;, &#8220;professional ethic&#8221;, &#8220;ethic is taken seriously at newspapers&#8221; &#8230; all in the preamble of your last post &#8211; brings new meaning to the word oxymoron!</p>
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		<title>By: Bod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nodak, I&#039;m not sure you get this.

If I walk down the street and I see a crime being committed, and I state exactly what I saw in a blog, do you have a problem with that?

If I accurately record an exchange at a public meeting between a politician and a citizen, uttered in a public forum, and quote that accurately in a blog, in what way is that different?

Arguably, if I pose as a private individual at a public venue and ask a politician a &#039;loaded&#039; question, why should I NOT record and quote the response I get back in a blog?

And, while we&#039;re at it, what gives Helen Thomas the right to behave the way SHE does at White House press briefings? 200 years as a &#039;professional journalist&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nodak, I&#8217;m not sure you get this.</p>
<p>If I walk down the street and I see a crime being committed, and I state exactly what I saw in a blog, do you have a problem with that?</p>
<p>If I accurately record an exchange at a public meeting between a politician and a citizen, uttered in a public forum, and quote that accurately in a blog, in what way is that different?</p>
<p>Arguably, if I pose as a private individual at a public venue and ask a politician a &#8216;loaded&#8217; question, why should I NOT record and quote the response I get back in a blog?</p>
<p>And, while we&#8217;re at it, what gives Helen Thomas the right to behave the way SHE does at White House press briefings? 200 years as a &#8216;professional journalist&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: nodak boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nodak boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahn: You have it bass ackwards: there are two actors here: the journalist and/or blogger, and the public figure/source. 
Each has his own responsibilities and obligations and worries. 
I am talking about the journalist/blogger&#039;s: you should identify yourself before interviewing people. It&#039;s 1.) simply courtesy 2.)it&#039;s a professional ethic; so the source knows what is being said is subject to publication. Believe it or not, this ethic is taken seriously at newspapers, to the point that it&#039;s considered unethical to call around to gas stations to find out the prices if the caller doesn&#039;t first identify himself as a reporter for such and such newspaper. It&#039;s not a way of &quot;warning off Democrats&quot; from saying something stupid...&quot; That&#039;s a weird idea... there&#039;s all kinds of bias in the MSM and most of it (nearly all of it) leftish... but it don&#039;t work like that.
  I can&#039;t see what everyone can&#039;t see about this (does that make sense?); 
   Now, big ol&#039; billy clinton has to take care of himself, and realize anything he says in public or even private might end up published, on tv, or in a blog,; sure.
   but that plain fact of life doesn&#039;t speak to the ethical obligation of a reporter/blogger to simply identify themselves before starting an interview....
     The perspective of many on this thread is so weirdly perverse, it&#039;s like someone saying: lots of men commit adultery, so the divine command not to do it is stoooopid and out of date.....
    Gads, grow up.
    There&#039;s facts on the ground and there&#039;s ethics. 
    You can&#039;t always choose your facts, but you can choose your ethic.
   Now tell me, Hahn boy, do you think it&#039;s better for bloggers and/or reporters to NOT identify themselves before they start interviewing someone?
  Are you going to sit there (in your pajamas. Please, Lord, tell me you are wearing pajamas,cuz the alternative is sort of scary) and tell me you would NOT be infuriated with a newspaper reporter who dressed in shorts, tshirt, sandals and sunglasses, bumped into you outside some, say, political event, and asked you about stuff, pretending to be just a passerby, all the while secretly taping it,  and then posted it, video, audio, online and published it in a newspaper?  Even if you said nothing salacious or slanderous or stupid, I&#039;m betting you would be ticked off like heck.
     Why? 
 Well, that&#039;s what I&#039;m sayin&#039;....
 I&#039;m not saying bloggers have to do this or that. 
  I am suggesting that it seems to me that this ethic is a good one for bloggers, too.
 In general.
     
    Yes, the world has changed. 
I love blogging. I love bloggers. in general and in theory.
    Doesn&#039;t mean that the courtesy and ethic of being upfront about who you are and what you are doing isn&#039;t a good one for bloggers to adhere to.
    Where do you stand on the adultery thing, anyway? 
    (this is on the record.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahn: You have it bass ackwards: there are two actors here: the journalist and/or blogger, and the public figure/source.<br />
Each has his own responsibilities and obligations and worries.<br />
I am talking about the journalist/blogger&#8217;s: you should identify yourself before interviewing people. It&#8217;s 1.) simply courtesy 2.)it&#8217;s a professional ethic; so the source knows what is being said is subject to publication. Believe it or not, this ethic is taken seriously at newspapers, to the point that it&#8217;s considered unethical to call around to gas stations to find out the prices if the caller doesn&#8217;t first identify himself as a reporter for such and such newspaper. It&#8217;s not a way of &#8220;warning off Democrats&#8221; from saying something stupid&#8230;&#8221; That&#8217;s a weird idea&#8230; there&#8217;s all kinds of bias in the MSM and most of it (nearly all of it) leftish&#8230; but it don&#8217;t work like that.<br />
  I can&#8217;t see what everyone can&#8217;t see about this (does that make sense?);<br />
   Now, big ol&#8217; billy clinton has to take care of himself, and realize anything he says in public or even private might end up published, on tv, or in a blog,; sure.<br />
   but that plain fact of life doesn&#8217;t speak to the ethical obligation of a reporter/blogger to simply identify themselves before starting an interview&#8230;.<br />
     The perspective of many on this thread is so weirdly perverse, it&#8217;s like someone saying: lots of men commit adultery, so the divine command not to do it is stoooopid and out of date&#8230;..<br />
    Gads, grow up.<br />
    There&#8217;s facts on the ground and there&#8217;s ethics.<br />
    You can&#8217;t always choose your facts, but you can choose your ethic.<br />
   Now tell me, Hahn boy, do you think it&#8217;s better for bloggers and/or reporters to NOT identify themselves before they start interviewing someone?<br />
  Are you going to sit there (in your pajamas. Please, Lord, tell me you are wearing pajamas,cuz the alternative is sort of scary) and tell me you would NOT be infuriated with a newspaper reporter who dressed in shorts, tshirt, sandals and sunglasses, bumped into you outside some, say, political event, and asked you about stuff, pretending to be just a passerby, all the while secretly taping it,  and then posted it, video, audio, online and published it in a newspaper?  Even if you said nothing salacious or slanderous or stupid, I&#8217;m betting you would be ticked off like heck.<br />
     Why?<br />
 Well, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m sayin&#8217;&#8230;.<br />
 I&#8217;m not saying bloggers have to do this or that.<br />
  I am suggesting that it seems to me that this ethic is a good one for bloggers, too.<br />
 In general.</p>
<p>    Yes, the world has changed.<br />
I love blogging. I love bloggers. in general and in theory.<br />
    Doesn&#8217;t mean that the courtesy and ethic of being upfront about who you are and what you are doing isn&#8217;t a good one for bloggers to adhere to.<br />
    Where do you stand on the adultery thing, anyway?<br />
    (this is on the record.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nodak,
I&#039;m not running for anything. If I was, I&#039;d say the same thing to journalists and anyone else ( except perhaps my close friends ). Why would it matter whether you were talking to a journalist unless you felt you didn&#039;t have to lie because you were protecte?  But then again I&#039;m not a Democrat so no protection would be offered any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nodak,<br />
I&#8217;m not running for anything. If I was, I&#8217;d say the same thing to journalists and anyone else ( except perhaps my close friends ). Why would it matter whether you were talking to a journalist unless you felt you didn&#8217;t have to lie because you were protecte?  But then again I&#8217;m not a Democrat so no protection would be offered any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Jacobs</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mainstream-media-picking-on-bloggersagain/comment-page-1/#comment-58474</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for mainstream media for most of my adult life. I think some journalists don&#039;t understand that technology has erased the line between professionals and amateurs. Or they get it but they don&#039;t know what to do about it.

When a public figure speaks in a public place, he  has to assume that what he says is public. It may appear in a newspaper; it may appear on a blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for mainstream media for most of my adult life. I think some journalists don&#8217;t understand that technology has erased the line between professionals and amateurs. Or they get it but they don&#8217;t know what to do about it.</p>
<p>When a public figure speaks in a public place, he  has to assume that what he says is public. It may appear in a newspaper; it may appear on a blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You rarely need to be a &#039;real journalist&#039; at this point, because &#039;real journalists&#039; are in name only. They happen to be on the payroll of a news organization, that&#039;s all that makes them different from you and me. Too many reporters don&#039;t actually do reporting and haven&#039;t for quite some time. 

Vast amounts of &#039;news&#039; is based on books, studies, surveys, reports, polls, conference presentations, speeches, testimony and, of course, press releases -- all written by someone else, based on research (a sphere of activity that once included real reporting) done by someone else at a university, bank, think tank, government agency, non-profit, advocacy group, and so on. 

These documents are semi-digested and spit out as news (&quot;Survey discovers ....&quot; &quot;new book says...&quot; &quot;researchers conclude ...&quot;) and so on. These are dressed up as &quot;stories&quot; through the expedient of getting a few quotes from a generally short list of experts (who of course produce their own reports, studies etc. and will need press time to promote them in the future, therefore cooperate with this whole artificial process). 

If the reporter is lucky, the item may be controversial enough to get various groups of experts sniping at one another, thus providing material for a second day or more of &quot;news&quot; requiring little additional effort to &quot;report&quot; (e.g. the McClellan book -- doesn&#039;t that seem like so last month?) and on it goes.

A lot of reporters only get out of the office to pick up a copy of one of these items at an event where they will meet numerous clones of themselves and, if lucky, score enough quotes to write up the item quickly without having to do any additional phone calls or e-mails. It&#039;s extremely easy to get through the day (news cycle), week, month, year ... in this manner. Sure, they are going out of the newsroom, and meeting people, and getting quotes ... but is this really &#039;reporting&#039; in the sense that it requires some vast professional training and experience to do? I don&#039;t think so! 

Also, folks, notice if you will how often a story that requires quotes or anecdotes about &#039;real people&#039; (lifestyle articles, career advice) features freelance writers, book editors, marketing managers, novelists, public relations consultants and the like. In other words, all people from the reporter&#039;s larger sphere of media acquaintances. I think these types appear all out of proportion to their real incidence in the population. 

Sure, you can&#039;t quote your colleague at the next desk (that&#039;s &#039;unethical&#039;) but you can quote a guy you met at a party given by that colleague at the next desk, so long as he works at some other place, who will very likely be another media type.

Add these two categories, plus the obligatory stuff (the plane crash, the four-alarm fire, last night&#039;s game, the daily stock report) and there isn&#039;t a whole lot left in the newspaper.

Don&#039;t blame the recent years of cost-cutting; it&#039;s a popular villain in the newsroom, but all this stuff has been going on way longer than that. Most journalists became over-paid, over-rated and lazy about 20 years ago, and it is their abdication of actual journalism that got them to where they are. 

And no, I don&#039;t mean they weren&#039;t critical enough of authority; many journalists are so critical, so bitter, so relentlessly negative and angry so much of the time, a career of it warps the mind. I mean what I said: lazy and (given what they brought to the job) over-paid.

They, not publishers, outsourced the thinking part of the job to others -- the consultants, the professors, the think-tankers, etc. as it made the job easier. That&#039;s a reality. Most of them have only a superficial understanding of what they allegedly cover; you can see that by examining their substance-less work closely. 

A few factoids interspersed with quotes in some story-like order ... if you have ever done it yourself, and dear readers, I have, you discover at some point early in on your career that even if you don&#039;t understand the issues or material, you can still produce a plausible &#039;story&#039; by just picking out some numbers, facts etc. from the source material, interspersed with a handful of quotes at what look like appropriate points. Every journalist I have ever known, has admitted this mutual discovery to me. 

There&#039;s no there, there, but it qualifies as a &#039;story&#039; for the purpose at hand. And if it&#039;s &#039;polished&#039; enough then possibly (you hope) readers will get through it without realizing how little meat there is to it. And until recently, it worked just fine for most journalists. Even if the readers were vaguely dissatisifed, where else could they go?  

If you as the reader know anything about the subject at hand, you can often see that they haven&#039;t a clue but have just produced a piece of &#039;journalism&#039; full of formulaic phrases (&quot;for now ...&quot; is my favorite) according to what they learned in class. Certainly, nobody expects a reporter to know exactly as much about finance, medicine, etc. as the people they interview (otherwise, they would likely be doing those jobs themselves) but the depth of ignorance is in many cases appalling. 

The reporting on energy is a particularly sad case -- it hasn&#039;t changed much since the 70s. I believe Mr. Ibrahim would agree. A senator from an oil-producing state (bad); a quote from an environmentalist group (good), well, there&#039;s your story. Or, the lights go out because utilities don&#039;t invest enough (bad); when the utilities do want to invest, which would be in power lines or power plants to produce and distribute more electricity (that&#039;s what they invest in!), both are bad (brain cancer! coal!) Clean natural gas is ok, as long as you don&#039;t drill for it (bad), move it through a pipeline (bad) or deliver it via LNG tanker (really bad, it might blow up in a fireball). 

Have a look at this formulaic doozy from the SF Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/10/MNI6116RIU.DTL&amp;hw=energy&amp;sn=002&amp;sc=881

No wonder people in the Bay area can&#039;t think straight about energy issues.

How many of those who cover energy as part of or all of their job for the mainstream media (I don&#039;t mean Platts or the like) have read EPACT 2005 or the accompanying documents such as CRS studies, FERC and NRC reports etc.? 

EPACT is free online and flawed though it is (five years in the making), the nearest thing we have to an official national energy policy, and its basic goal is to raise the supply of all kinds of energy in the US (fossil fuels and nuclear now, because that&#039;s what we have the most of immediately at hand) while also supporting solar, wind, fuel cells, efficiency and the like as PART of the effort. Reading it and all those other documents would, however,  mean slogging through thousands of pages of dense technical, legal and tax issues. Too hard! Call your friendly local environmental group!   

Medicine is the same:
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/05/28/how-do-american-journalists-cover-medicine-not-well/?mod=googlenews_wsj

The bottom line is that most reporters are clever rather than truly smart; quick with catch-words and &quot;nutshell&quot; concepts rather than outstanding writers or thinkers. Far too many of them also relied on bluster, bravado, the ignorance of the public, the near-monopoly on channels of information, the comfortable assurance of groupthink, the absence of any oversight except for &#039;professional discipline&#039; (uh-huh), and the power to batter and destroy people who didn&#039;t cooperate with them. Far too many of them were mean-spirited, small-minded and resentful of people who were accomplishing things in the world, while they merely wrote about it.  

Their problem is that, media sneering aside, Americans have more education and access to more information than before. So, the people they cover know more about the subject in most cases than they do, and many of the consumers of news know much more than they used to. To some extent, the journalist is superfluous and even gets in the way -- confusing the issues with their ignorance rather than illuminating.

Nonetheless, they were good enough for the traditional media, since until recently, there were few other ways to disseminate knowledge quickly and widely. Their shortcomings had to be endured by the public as the price of getting any information, in any timely way, at all. 

But, and of course I am not the first to say it, say I want to know about Congress. I can read the text of proposed legislation online, plus staff analyses of its impact and cost, free; read Congressional testimony and watch many of the hearings on live webcasts by the Congress or regulatory agencies themselves or on C-Span (both of which are often archived for some time if I&#039;m busy at the moment); see the Federal Register and the Congressional Record online every day. I can get all of the facts and comments, not just those a reporter chooses to give me. 

So why do I need the LA Times to have 47 staff (!) in its DC bureau. Of course, I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You rarely need to be a &#8216;real journalist&#8217; at this point, because &#8216;real journalists&#8217; are in name only. They happen to be on the payroll of a news organization, that&#8217;s all that makes them different from you and me. Too many reporters don&#8217;t actually do reporting and haven&#8217;t for quite some time. </p>
<p>Vast amounts of &#8216;news&#8217; is based on books, studies, surveys, reports, polls, conference presentations, speeches, testimony and, of course, press releases &#8212; all written by someone else, based on research (a sphere of activity that once included real reporting) done by someone else at a university, bank, think tank, government agency, non-profit, advocacy group, and so on. </p>
<p>These documents are semi-digested and spit out as news (&#8221;Survey discovers &#8230;.&#8221; &#8220;new book says&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;researchers conclude &#8230;&#8221;) and so on. These are dressed up as &#8220;stories&#8221; through the expedient of getting a few quotes from a generally short list of experts (who of course produce their own reports, studies etc. and will need press time to promote them in the future, therefore cooperate with this whole artificial process). </p>
<p>If the reporter is lucky, the item may be controversial enough to get various groups of experts sniping at one another, thus providing material for a second day or more of &#8220;news&#8221; requiring little additional effort to &#8220;report&#8221; (e.g. the McClellan book &#8212; doesn&#8217;t that seem like so last month?) and on it goes.</p>
<p>A lot of reporters only get out of the office to pick up a copy of one of these items at an event where they will meet numerous clones of themselves and, if lucky, score enough quotes to write up the item quickly without having to do any additional phone calls or e-mails. It&#8217;s extremely easy to get through the day (news cycle), week, month, year &#8230; in this manner. Sure, they are going out of the newsroom, and meeting people, and getting quotes &#8230; but is this really &#8216;reporting&#8217; in the sense that it requires some vast professional training and experience to do? I don&#8217;t think so! </p>
<p>Also, folks, notice if you will how often a story that requires quotes or anecdotes about &#8216;real people&#8217; (lifestyle articles, career advice) features freelance writers, book editors, marketing managers, novelists, public relations consultants and the like. In other words, all people from the reporter&#8217;s larger sphere of media acquaintances. I think these types appear all out of proportion to their real incidence in the population. </p>
<p>Sure, you can&#8217;t quote your colleague at the next desk (that&#8217;s &#8216;unethical&#8217;) but you can quote a guy you met at a party given by that colleague at the next desk, so long as he works at some other place, who will very likely be another media type.</p>
<p>Add these two categories, plus the obligatory stuff (the plane crash, the four-alarm fire, last night&#8217;s game, the daily stock report) and there isn&#8217;t a whole lot left in the newspaper.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t blame the recent years of cost-cutting; it&#8217;s a popular villain in the newsroom, but all this stuff has been going on way longer than that. Most journalists became over-paid, over-rated and lazy about 20 years ago, and it is their abdication of actual journalism that got them to where they are. </p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t mean they weren&#8217;t critical enough of authority; many journalists are so critical, so bitter, so relentlessly negative and angry so much of the time, a career of it warps the mind. I mean what I said: lazy and (given what they brought to the job) over-paid.</p>
<p>They, not publishers, outsourced the thinking part of the job to others &#8212; the consultants, the professors, the think-tankers, etc. as it made the job easier. That&#8217;s a reality. Most of them have only a superficial understanding of what they allegedly cover; you can see that by examining their substance-less work closely. </p>
<p>A few factoids interspersed with quotes in some story-like order &#8230; if you have ever done it yourself, and dear readers, I have, you discover at some point early in on your career that even if you don&#8217;t understand the issues or material, you can still produce a plausible &#8217;story&#8217; by just picking out some numbers, facts etc. from the source material, interspersed with a handful of quotes at what look like appropriate points. Every journalist I have ever known, has admitted this mutual discovery to me. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no there, there, but it qualifies as a &#8217;story&#8217; for the purpose at hand. And if it&#8217;s &#8216;polished&#8217; enough then possibly (you hope) readers will get through it without realizing how little meat there is to it. And until recently, it worked just fine for most journalists. Even if the readers were vaguely dissatisifed, where else could they go?  </p>
<p>If you as the reader know anything about the subject at hand, you can often see that they haven&#8217;t a clue but have just produced a piece of &#8216;journalism&#8217; full of formulaic phrases (&#8221;for now &#8230;&#8221; is my favorite) according to what they learned in class. Certainly, nobody expects a reporter to know exactly as much about finance, medicine, etc. as the people they interview (otherwise, they would likely be doing those jobs themselves) but the depth of ignorance is in many cases appalling. </p>
<p>The reporting on energy is a particularly sad case &#8212; it hasn&#8217;t changed much since the 70s. I believe Mr. Ibrahim would agree. A senator from an oil-producing state (bad); a quote from an environmentalist group (good), well, there&#8217;s your story. Or, the lights go out because utilities don&#8217;t invest enough (bad); when the utilities do want to invest, which would be in power lines or power plants to produce and distribute more electricity (that&#8217;s what they invest in!), both are bad (brain cancer! coal!) Clean natural gas is ok, as long as you don&#8217;t drill for it (bad), move it through a pipeline (bad) or deliver it via LNG tanker (really bad, it might blow up in a fireball). </p>
<p>Have a look at this formulaic doozy from the SF Chronicle: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/10/MNI6116RIU.DTL&amp;hw=energy&amp;sn=002&amp;sc=881" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/10/MNI6116RIU.DTL&amp;hw=energy&amp;sn=002&amp;sc=881</a></p>
<p>No wonder people in the Bay area can&#8217;t think straight about energy issues.</p>
<p>How many of those who cover energy as part of or all of their job for the mainstream media (I don&#8217;t mean Platts or the like) have read EPACT 2005 or the accompanying documents such as CRS studies, FERC and NRC reports etc.? </p>
<p>EPACT is free online and flawed though it is (five years in the making), the nearest thing we have to an official national energy policy, and its basic goal is to raise the supply of all kinds of energy in the US (fossil fuels and nuclear now, because that&#8217;s what we have the most of immediately at hand) while also supporting solar, wind, fuel cells, efficiency and the like as PART of the effort. Reading it and all those other documents would, however,  mean slogging through thousands of pages of dense technical, legal and tax issues. Too hard! Call your friendly local environmental group!   </p>
<p>Medicine is the same:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/05/28/how-do-american-journalists-cover-medicine-not-well/?mod=googlenews_wsj" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/05/28/how-do-american-journalists-cover-medicine-not-well/?mod=googlenews_wsj</a></p>
<p>The bottom line is that most reporters are clever rather than truly smart; quick with catch-words and &#8220;nutshell&#8221; concepts rather than outstanding writers or thinkers. Far too many of them also relied on bluster, bravado, the ignorance of the public, the near-monopoly on channels of information, the comfortable assurance of groupthink, the absence of any oversight except for &#8216;professional discipline&#8217; (uh-huh), and the power to batter and destroy people who didn&#8217;t cooperate with them. Far too many of them were mean-spirited, small-minded and resentful of people who were accomplishing things in the world, while they merely wrote about it.  </p>
<p>Their problem is that, media sneering aside, Americans have more education and access to more information than before. So, the people they cover know more about the subject in most cases than they do, and many of the consumers of news know much more than they used to. To some extent, the journalist is superfluous and even gets in the way &#8212; confusing the issues with their ignorance rather than illuminating.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, they were good enough for the traditional media, since until recently, there were few other ways to disseminate knowledge quickly and widely. Their shortcomings had to be endured by the public as the price of getting any information, in any timely way, at all. </p>
<p>But, and of course I am not the first to say it, say I want to know about Congress. I can read the text of proposed legislation online, plus staff analyses of its impact and cost, free; read Congressional testimony and watch many of the hearings on live webcasts by the Congress or regulatory agencies themselves or on C-Span (both of which are often archived for some time if I&#8217;m busy at the moment); see the Federal Register and the Congressional Record online every day. I can get all of the facts and comments, not just those a reporter chooses to give me. </p>
<p>So why do I need the LA Times to have 47 staff (!) in its DC bureau. Of course, I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: nodak boy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G-boy: 
    Hey, I&#039;m thin-skinned. What can I say? I thought Blaine boy brought it on himself. Maybe I was wrong about that. 
   But could you just answer the question? Do you think journalists, reporters and/or bloggers, should NOT identify themselves when interviewing sources? 
    Is that so hard?
    Is there something wrong with that?
  I&#039;m betting that any of you screeding on here, if you were interviewed by a reporter, journalist and/or blogger or all of the above, would freak out if said interviewer did NOT tell you who they were, before they elicited comments (which, let&#039;s be honest, would probably be embarrassing to you the morning after, knowing you as I do now) from you. 
  That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying.
  I&#039;m a big fan of blogging, believe me. 
    Just rather amazed at the sort of mindless, knee-jerk hostility to MSMers...which isn&#039;t the point of my little primer. Try to be more considered and intelligent with your hostility.
    I&#039;m not &quot;making up rules&quot; for anyone: i&#039;m pointing out what this rule happens to be, and, as an aside, arguing that this particular rule seems like a good one for bloggers, too. 
    Be honest: you wouldn&#039;t want to be ambushed by anyone, journalist, reporter, blogger, whatever: so why do you think it&#039;s OK for people you dislike to be ambushed? 
  That&#039;s the ethic of &quot;Lord of the Flies.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G-boy:<br />
    Hey, I&#8217;m thin-skinned. What can I say? I thought Blaine boy brought it on himself. Maybe I was wrong about that.<br />
   But could you just answer the question? Do you think journalists, reporters and/or bloggers, should NOT identify themselves when interviewing sources?<br />
    Is that so hard?<br />
    Is there something wrong with that?<br />
  I&#8217;m betting that any of you screeding on here, if you were interviewed by a reporter, journalist and/or blogger or all of the above, would freak out if said interviewer did NOT tell you who they were, before they elicited comments (which, let&#8217;s be honest, would probably be embarrassing to you the morning after, knowing you as I do now) from you.<br />
  That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying.<br />
  I&#8217;m a big fan of blogging, believe me.<br />
    Just rather amazed at the sort of mindless, knee-jerk hostility to MSMers&#8230;which isn&#8217;t the point of my little primer. Try to be more considered and intelligent with your hostility.<br />
    I&#8217;m not &#8220;making up rules&#8221; for anyone: i&#8217;m pointing out what this rule happens to be, and, as an aside, arguing that this particular rule seems like a good one for bloggers, too.<br />
    Be honest: you wouldn&#8217;t want to be ambushed by anyone, journalist, reporter, blogger, whatever: so why do you think it&#8217;s OK for people you dislike to be ambushed?<br />
  That&#8217;s the ethic of &#8220;Lord of the Flies.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to Mr. Blaine for succulently demonstrating how incredibly pompous these MSM types are. &quot;nodak boy&quot; name calling temper tantrum proves the point

&quot;nodak boy&quot;: &quot;Journalists&quot; are neither Superheros nor Saints. The admiration you hold for them is found only amoung their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to Mr. Blaine for succulently demonstrating how incredibly pompous these MSM types are. &#8220;nodak boy&#8221; name calling temper tantrum proves the point</p>
<p>&#8220;nodak boy&#8221;: &#8220;Journalists&#8221; are neither Superheros nor Saints. The admiration you hold for them is found only amoung their own.</p>
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		<title>By: ChknLtL</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would someone explain to me exactly what it is that makes the MSM think they&#039;re entitled to make rules for bloggers?  I don&#039;t remember any reputable blogger asking to join their club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would someone explain to me exactly what it is that makes the MSM think they&#8217;re entitled to make rules for bloggers?  I don&#8217;t remember any reputable blogger asking to join their club.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Alter, like most journalists, is terrified that the public will find out how lazy, biased and incompetent they are. The media is undergoing as great a transformation as happened when newspapers and pamphlets challenged the pulpit and back fence as trusted sources. No renaissance priest or preacher was as frightened of the people questioning their direct line to the truth. Talk radio, cable television and the internet are killing the carefully built image of an objective and dedicated press and returning reporters, like the clerics before, to human status.

nodak: the only use for that &quot;rule&quot; is that Democratic politicians know that they can spout off to a journalist, they will be protected. Sorry, that&#039;s a big part of the reason no one respects journalists any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Alter, like most journalists, is terrified that the public will find out how lazy, biased and incompetent they are. The media is undergoing as great a transformation as happened when newspapers and pamphlets challenged the pulpit and back fence as trusted sources. No renaissance priest or preacher was as frightened of the people questioning their direct line to the truth. Talk radio, cable television and the internet are killing the carefully built image of an objective and dedicated press and returning reporters, like the clerics before, to human status.</p>
<p>nodak: the only use for that &#8220;rule&#8221; is that Democratic politicians know that they can spout off to a journalist, they will be protected. Sorry, that&#8217;s a big part of the reason no one respects journalists any more.</p>
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