Comments on: Mexican Government Goes ‘All In’ on Drug War http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:36:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ken http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-257379 Ken Sun, 10 May 2009 12:02:06 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-257379 Everyone seems to forget that the reason this WILL continue is all that MONEY. JUDGES,LAW ENFORCEMENT,DOCTORS, ETC are involved in this too. I have ILLEGALS 3 doors down who smuggle people and drugs but the COP across the street wont do anything about it and the CITY wont do anything to a SANTUARY person. Everyone seems to forget that the reason this WILL continue is all that MONEY. JUDGES,LAW ENFORCEMENT,DOCTORS, ETC are involved in this too. I have ILLEGALS 3 doors down who smuggle people and drugs but the COP across the street wont do anything about it and the CITY wont do anything to a SANTUARY person.

]]> By: Jim Baker http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-256807 Jim Baker Sat, 09 May 2009 03:36:13 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-256807 Doc, Nice argument, except that adult Americans doing recreational drugs usually do harm to more than just themselves. Many times, the other people they harm are their own children. What you advocate was tried in Amsterdam and has been a miserable failure. The obvious choice, if Americans could be trained to think rationally, would be to stop buying drugs that feed terrorists and stop using them to detroy themselves. I suppose that I am arguing that Americans are too stupid to be taught to behave in their best self-interest and don't, therefore, deserve what remnants of liberty they still enjoy. Doc,
Nice argument, except that adult Americans doing recreational drugs usually do harm to more than just themselves. Many times, the other people they harm are their own children. What you advocate was tried in Amsterdam and has been a miserable failure. The obvious choice, if Americans could be trained to think rationally, would be to stop buying drugs that feed terrorists and stop using them to detroy themselves. I suppose that I am arguing that Americans are too stupid to be taught to behave in their best self-interest and don’t, therefore, deserve what remnants of liberty they still enjoy.

]]> By: kabud http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-256703 kabud Fri, 08 May 2009 23:33:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-256703 my friend, a journalist, met some mexican guy in South California years ago, some time in the 80s the guy was a drug runner, with a gun on the kitchen table- that's how he met my friend interesting part was about that drug dealer/trafficker `political` views: he was a violent marxist, who loved to talk about how nice would it be to poison American water reservoirs, rivers, so that millions of americans would die This is all very serious stuff. They do plan it and they have been working on routs to bring in poison here For now they just test routs with tons of cocaine my friend, a journalist, met some mexican guy in South California years ago, some time in the 80s

the guy was a drug runner, with a gun on the kitchen table- that’s how he met my friend

interesting part was about that drug dealer/trafficker `political` views:

he was a violent marxist, who loved to talk about how nice would it be to poison American water reservoirs, rivers, so that millions of americans would die

This is all very serious stuff.

They do plan it and they have been working on routs to bring in poison here

For now they just test routs with tons of cocaine

]]> By: WhyamInotsurprised? http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-256230 WhyamInotsurprised? Fri, 08 May 2009 07:24:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-256230 Reuben, you must think readers here are idiots. "Mexico is all in" my ass! All that means to me is that the Calderon admin. is feeling very threatened and is fighting for survival. Has nothing to do with fighting drugs. This is another side show orchestrated by The One to distract from the games being played at home. Interesting that this happens following BHO's visit to Mexico. Why don't you do some real investigation instead of spewing this crapola. Reuben, you must think readers here are idiots. “Mexico is all in” my ass! All that means to me is that the Calderon admin. is feeling very threatened and is fighting for survival. Has nothing to do with fighting drugs. This is another side show orchestrated by The One to distract from the games being played at home. Interesting that this happens following BHO’s visit to Mexico. Why don’t you do some real investigation instead of spewing this crapola.

]]> By: Frank http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-256199 Frank Fri, 08 May 2009 05:16:41 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-256199 Americans will never stop using drugs or owning guns. The only answer to get rid of the crime associated with them is to stop criminalizing them. Legalize drugs and the cartels, as well as the violence associated with them, will disappear. America has been fighting the war on drugs for years, along with the rest of the world, and they aren't any closer to winning. They never will be. Prohibition was BS, we all saw that for what it was. Why can't we do the same for the "WoD"? Americans will never stop using drugs or owning guns. The only answer to get rid of the crime associated with them is to stop criminalizing them. Legalize drugs and the cartels, as well as the violence associated with them, will disappear. America has been fighting the war on drugs for years, along with the rest of the world, and they aren’t any closer to winning. They never will be. Prohibition was BS, we all saw that for what it was. Why can’t we do the same for the “WoD”?

]]> By: Mike2 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-256153 Mike2 Fri, 08 May 2009 02:54:11 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-256153 2. ddc: Yes you are right. Closing border would at least come close to stopping the drug trade in its present form. Now you know why there has never been a serious attempt to do so. 6. Doc: I agree. Legalize a bunch of the stuff and I have advocated for years that we should give heroin or some other opiate away for free. Talk about making a dent in the cartel's profits! 10. Juvenal: Thank you for pointing out that "La Santa Muerte" is absolutely not a Catholic saint and has nothing to do with Catholicism. 2. ddc:
Yes you are right. Closing border would at least come close to stopping the drug trade in its present form. Now you know why there has never been a serious attempt to do so.

6. Doc:
I agree. Legalize a bunch of the stuff and I have advocated for years that we should give heroin or some other opiate away for free. Talk about making a dent in the cartel’s profits!

10. Juvenal:
Thank you for pointing out that “La Santa Muerte” is absolutely not a Catholic saint and has nothing to do with Catholicism.

]]> By: kabud http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-256112 kabud Fri, 08 May 2009 01:41:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-256112 Cuban agents are very active in Mexico So i remembered the sudden death of Mexican scientist(the Obama's archeologist-guide) the next after he spent hours with Obama It was a very strange thing. Officially it was reported that scientist died out of pneumonia. This is just impossible : one day he is fine , next day develops pneumonia and DIES right away! It is known that soviet and Cuban intelligence posses poisons that can cause similar symptoms and death So the diseased Mexican archeologist could have been not very careful and may be he said something to Obama about things that Obama may not really wants others to know. Something about Obama Marxists connection. It is a second body already after the `suicide` death of CFO of Freddy Mac Cuban agents are very active in Mexico

So i remembered the sudden death of Mexican scientist(the Obama’s archeologist-guide) the next after he spent hours with Obama

It was a very strange thing.

Officially it was reported that scientist died out of pneumonia.

This is just impossible : one day he is fine , next day develops pneumonia and DIES right away!

It is known that soviet and Cuban intelligence
posses poisons that can cause similar symptoms and death

So the diseased Mexican archeologist could have been not very careful and may be he said something to Obama about things that Obama may not really wants others to know. Something about Obama Marxists connection.

It is a second body already after the `suicide` death of CFO of Freddy Mac

]]> By: BettyBlue http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-255917 BettyBlue Thu, 07 May 2009 20:24:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-255917 Naverette has made a career blaming America for all of Mexico's problems. Naverette has made a career blaming America for all of Mexico’s problems.

]]> By: Juvenal http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-255863 Juvenal Thu, 07 May 2009 18:27:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-255863 "Santa Muerte" is not a Catholic saint, not even a suppressed one, like St. Expeditus, say. This is something that's been made up entirely outside of the Church's traditions. People belonging to her cult might dress up their devotion in Catholic-inspired piety (making the sign of the cross while praying to Santa Muerte, for example), but these folks have enough experience with Catholicism to know she's got nothing to do with the Church. So I really think you're barking up the wrong tree when you say that Mexican authorities are "playing with fire" because their taking sledgehammers to la Santa Muerte's shrines will offend die-hard Catholics. It's really just the opposite. “Santa Muerte” is not a Catholic saint, not even a suppressed one, like St. Expeditus, say. This is something that’s been made up entirely outside of the Church’s traditions.

People belonging to her cult might dress up their devotion in Catholic-inspired piety (making the sign of the cross while praying to Santa Muerte, for example), but these folks have enough experience with Catholicism to know she’s got nothing to do with the Church.

So I really think you’re barking up the wrong tree when you say that Mexican authorities are “playing with fire” because their taking sledgehammers to la Santa Muerte’s shrines will offend die-hard Catholics. It’s really just the opposite.

]]> By: scott http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mexican-government-goes-all-in-on-drug-war/comment-page-1/#comment-255839 scott Thu, 07 May 2009 17:31:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=54802#comment-255839 Drugs are distributed more or less openly in every ghetto in America. All that is necessary to kill the drug trade is to pick up the suburban kids as they exit distribution points and fine their parents heavily on the first offense. Second offense = 1 year in the military cleaning latrines and digging ditches. Third offense = two years. Etc. For a bit this would be a big money maker. It would also cut costs in the military as there would be no pay for these offenders. Only food and housing. So, kill the demand, end the problem. There is no drug problem in Singapore. Drugs are distributed more or less openly in every ghetto in America. All that is necessary to kill the drug trade is to pick up the suburban kids as they exit distribution points and fine their parents heavily on the first offense. Second offense = 1 year in the military cleaning latrines and digging ditches. Third offense = two years. Etc. For a bit this would be a big money maker. It would also cut costs in the military as there would be no pay for these offenders. Only food and housing.

So, kill the demand, end the problem. There is no drug problem in Singapore.

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