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	<title>Comments on: MTV and the Holocaust</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua Sharf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Sharf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with both Alan and John.  The Holocaust was part of WWII, but not the whole thing.

That said, MTV is continuing the de-Judaization of the Holocaust here, and we&#039;re going to pay mightily for this moral confusion unless it&#039;s stopped.

By, &quot;us,&quot; MTV means average, everyday, probably middle-class folk.

By that definition, the Holocaust didn&#039;t happen to people like &quot;us.&quot;  It happened to people like me.  And it was perpetrated, overwhelmingly, &lt;i&gt;by&lt;/i&gt; &quot;people like us.&quot;

Stalin&#039;s gulags and Mao&#039;s depredations happened to &quot;people like us.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with both Alan and John.  The Holocaust was part of WWII, but not the whole thing.</p>
<p>That said, MTV is continuing the de-Judaization of the Holocaust here, and we&#8217;re going to pay mightily for this moral confusion unless it&#8217;s stopped.</p>
<p>By, &#8220;us,&#8221; MTV means average, everyday, probably middle-class folk.</p>
<p>By that definition, the Holocaust didn&#8217;t happen to people like &#8220;us.&#8221;  It happened to people like me.  And it was perpetrated, overwhelmingly, <i>by</i> &#8220;people like us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stalin&#8217;s gulags and Mao&#8217;s depredations happened to &#8220;people like us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Tuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Tuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is what the heck does MTV mean by:  &quot;The Holocaust Happened To People Like Us.&quot;?Teenage MTV viewers are targets of an oppressive government, like Jews were under the Nazis?  Or &#039;we&#039;re all victims&#039;?  Or what?  I think it&#039;s good to remind people that freedom is fragile and must be defended constantly.  Why not make it even more realistic?  Put up a video of the Janjweed rousting the Dafur population.  Or the genocide in Rwanda.  Or, let&#039;s be really up to date and &#039;edgy&#039;, how about covering the Jihad against Christians, Hindus and Buddhists?  How about Beslan?  The threat of soldiers breaking into American homes to load people on trucks is pretty low.  Why now get real?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is what the heck does MTV mean by:  &#8220;The Holocaust Happened To People Like Us.&#8221;?Teenage MTV viewers are targets of an oppressive government, like Jews were under the Nazis?  Or &#8216;we&#8217;re all victims&#8217;?  Or what?  I think it&#8217;s good to remind people that freedom is fragile and must be defended constantly.  Why not make it even more realistic?  Put up a video of the Janjweed rousting the Dafur population.  Or the genocide in Rwanda.  Or, let&#8217;s be really up to date and &#8216;edgy&#8217;, how about covering the Jihad against Christians, Hindus and Buddhists?  How about Beslan?  The threat of soldiers breaking into American homes to load people on trucks is pretty low.  Why now get real?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting observation:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This phenomenon combines with the much-needed rejection of political correctness to form a curious, rancorous, yet prevalent understanding amongst many: that taking the Holocaust seriously is old-fashioned and uptight.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I got into a somewhat rancorous argument with a prominent climatologist on a climate blog over her use of the term &quot;denier&quot;. She told me that I was simply being PC to object the use of the term. I was aghast, but there it is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting observation:</p>
<blockquote><p>This phenomenon combines with the much-needed rejection of political correctness to form a curious, rancorous, yet prevalent understanding amongst many: that taking the Holocaust seriously is old-fashioned and uptight.</p></blockquote>
<p>I got into a somewhat rancorous argument with a prominent climatologist on a climate blog over her use of the term &#8220;denier&#8221;. She told me that I was simply being PC to object the use of the term. I was aghast, but there it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really object to the notion that the only thing that should come to mind when you think about world war two or Nazi Germany is the holocaust.  As a Jew, its certainly quite relevant to me, but that does not mean a movie like downfall is &lt;i&gt; basically &lt;/i&gt; about the holocaust.  It isn&#039;t, as I recall the holocaust wasn&#039;t even mentioned.  Hitler wasn&#039;t just a mass murderer, he also overthrew the German government and conquered half of Europe.  So it is only in the eye of the prejudiced beholder that the Hitler XBOX live video has anything to do with the holocaust.  I thought the video was funny because, to read the way people in web forums talk about having their XBOX live subscription canceled, you would think they were watching their life&#039;s work crumble around them.  The joke is in comparing a man loosing his empire to an angry internet denizen loosing their video game subscription.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really object to the notion that the only thing that should come to mind when you think about world war two or Nazi Germany is the holocaust.  As a Jew, its certainly quite relevant to me, but that does not mean a movie like downfall is <i> basically </i> about the holocaust.  It isn&#8217;t, as I recall the holocaust wasn&#8217;t even mentioned.  Hitler wasn&#8217;t just a mass murderer, he also overthrew the German government and conquered half of Europe.  So it is only in the eye of the prejudiced beholder that the Hitler XBOX live video has anything to do with the holocaust.  I thought the video was funny because, to read the way people in web forums talk about having their XBOX live subscription canceled, you would think they were watching their life&#8217;s work crumble around them.  The joke is in comparing a man loosing his empire to an angry internet denizen loosing their video game subscription.</p>
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