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		<title>By: Steve Selengut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Selengut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How To Stimulate Consumer Spending And Jumpstart The Economy

My survey produced an interesting anomaly--- several respondents felt that excessive consumer spending was the primary cause of the economic problems we face today, and that spending is not to be encouraged. 

But the root problem they were correctly speaking to is the source of the spending money, not the spending itself. Spending is essential for demand creation, and increasing demand is what produces jobs. 

So why we ask, does government remove the dollars from the economy before they accomplish the demand stimulus &quot;thingie&quot; (highly technical economics jargon)? Nearly half the survey responses observed that consumption taxes (The Fair Tax) are far more productive/creative than income taxes. 

The other half wants to replace the IRC (Internal Revenue Code) with a Flat Tax on all forms of income. Both suggestions are simple, and quantum leaps better than anything being seriously considered by congress--- &quot;seriously&quot; being the operative word. 

A combination of the two--- priceless, but later!

The single, easiest, fastest, biggest, consumer-spending instant winner bonanza is not even a twinkle in an old politician&#039;s eye--- there are far too few new politicians. Replace the Social Security Retirement Program with a plain vanilla pension plan, pre-funded by smaller, mandated employee contributions. 

The current methodology is simple: it takes money out of our pockets (and our employers) puts it though governmental blenders, and spits out IOUs for a meager benefit at retirement. Why not let the private sector provide pension benefits to all employees under the direction of a trimmed down Social Security bureaucracy?

How? By purchasing Social Security Retirement Income Annuities (SSRIAs). Google &quot;A Capitalist&#039;s Social Security Reform&quot; for the nitty-gritty details, but here&#039;s what we accomplish:

We stimulate spending immediately by only withdrawing 3% of income from 300 million pockets and pocketbooks, and nothing from employer treasuries. We provide demand-push spending money and reduce demand for consumer credit.

And, looking forward an article or two, we collect a tax on every dollar spent in the economy--- except those for food, healthcare, and higher education; even from our friends and neighbors in the Underground and Internet economies.

There are several other ideas on the more-spending-money-in-consumer-pockets agenda, and some thoughts about consumer confidence. It&#039;s tough to be confident, for example, when you click the links between congress and business lobbyists. 

It&#039;s tough to be confident when we see Wall Street control its regulators, constantly produce the same speculative garbage, and reward its senior employees and sales persons from the carcasses of mutilated shareholder-owners and &quot;hostaged&quot; taxpayers. 

These confidence destroyers can be dealt with, but first the rest of the story, on increasing consumer spending without credit abuse:

One: Reduce the interest rate on all mortgages at least twenty-five basis points, and adjust monthly payments accordingly. The banks owe us, and will make-up the difference from increased business activity.

For the rest of the article, please google the title.


Steve Selengut
sanserve (at) aol.com
http://www.kiawahgolfinvestmentseminars.com 
Author of: &quot;The Brainwashing of the American Investor: The Book that Wall Street Does Not Want YOU to Read&quot;, and &quot;A Millionaire&#039;s Secret Investment Strategy&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How To Stimulate Consumer Spending And Jumpstart The Economy</p>
<p>My survey produced an interesting anomaly&#8212; several respondents felt that excessive consumer spending was the primary cause of the economic problems we face today, and that spending is not to be encouraged. </p>
<p>But the root problem they were correctly speaking to is the source of the spending money, not the spending itself. Spending is essential for demand creation, and increasing demand is what produces jobs. </p>
<p>So why we ask, does government remove the dollars from the economy before they accomplish the demand stimulus &#8220;thingie&#8221; (highly technical economics jargon)? Nearly half the survey responses observed that consumption taxes (The Fair Tax) are far more productive/creative than income taxes. </p>
<p>The other half wants to replace the IRC (Internal Revenue Code) with a Flat Tax on all forms of income. Both suggestions are simple, and quantum leaps better than anything being seriously considered by congress&#8212; &#8220;seriously&#8221; being the operative word. </p>
<p>A combination of the two&#8212; priceless, but later!</p>
<p>The single, easiest, fastest, biggest, consumer-spending instant winner bonanza is not even a twinkle in an old politician&#8217;s eye&#8212; there are far too few new politicians. Replace the Social Security Retirement Program with a plain vanilla pension plan, pre-funded by smaller, mandated employee contributions. </p>
<p>The current methodology is simple: it takes money out of our pockets (and our employers) puts it though governmental blenders, and spits out IOUs for a meager benefit at retirement. Why not let the private sector provide pension benefits to all employees under the direction of a trimmed down Social Security bureaucracy?</p>
<p>How? By purchasing Social Security Retirement Income Annuities (SSRIAs). Google &#8220;A Capitalist&#8217;s Social Security Reform&#8221; for the nitty-gritty details, but here&#8217;s what we accomplish:</p>
<p>We stimulate spending immediately by only withdrawing 3% of income from 300 million pockets and pocketbooks, and nothing from employer treasuries. We provide demand-push spending money and reduce demand for consumer credit.</p>
<p>And, looking forward an article or two, we collect a tax on every dollar spent in the economy&#8212; except those for food, healthcare, and higher education; even from our friends and neighbors in the Underground and Internet economies.</p>
<p>There are several other ideas on the more-spending-money-in-consumer-pockets agenda, and some thoughts about consumer confidence. It&#8217;s tough to be confident, for example, when you click the links between congress and business lobbyists. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough to be confident when we see Wall Street control its regulators, constantly produce the same speculative garbage, and reward its senior employees and sales persons from the carcasses of mutilated shareholder-owners and &#8220;hostaged&#8221; taxpayers. </p>
<p>These confidence destroyers can be dealt with, but first the rest of the story, on increasing consumer spending without credit abuse:</p>
<p>One: Reduce the interest rate on all mortgages at least twenty-five basis points, and adjust monthly payments accordingly. The banks owe us, and will make-up the difference from increased business activity.</p>
<p>For the rest of the article, please google the title.</p>
<p>Steve Selengut<br />
sanserve (at) aol.com<br />
<a href="http://www.kiawahgolfinvestmentseminars.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kiawahgolfinvestmentseminars.com</a><br />
Author of: &#8220;The Brainwashing of the American Investor: The Book that Wall Street Does Not Want YOU to Read&#8221;, and &#8220;A Millionaire&#8217;s Secret Investment Strategy&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Charging Elephants .com &#187; California Progressives Fail Economics 102</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charging Elephants .com &#187; California Progressives Fail Economics 102</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1) Government is a weaker source of stimulating the economy than the free market. [Proof] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1) Government is a weaker source of stimulating the economy than the free market. [Proof] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Time to say goodbye to 2008, Year of the Bailout &#171; Senate Conservatives Fund</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/myth-government-spending-stimulates-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-177922</link>
		<dc:creator>Time to say goodbye to 2008, Year of the Bailout &#171; Senate Conservatives Fund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will say these government-run projects will stimulate the economy but that doesn&#8217;t make it true. How many times have we seen Congress over the last year spend money for the sake of the economy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will say these government-run projects will stimulate the economy but that doesn&#8217;t make it true. How many times have we seen Congress over the last year spend money for the sake of the economy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hubbard47</title>
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		<dc:creator>hubbard47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this article simply untrue, the fact that Keynesianism has been a sound economic theory for almost 80 years and is now being undermined isn&#039;t right. 
It is correct, in stating that the money governments spend has to come from somewhere, mainly out of the &#039;economy&#039;s pocket&#039; but when borrowing occurs, it borrows onto the government debt, meant to be re-payed in times of prosperity. It does not simply redistribute wealth right there and then. What the government should be doing, is borrowing now, whilst the economy heads to recession, and increase spending in order to bolster consumer spending and investment, but then be taking the money out of the economy in the good times, &#039;the boom&#039;. This way the two extremes of the standard boom and bust economic cycle are softened and the standard of living can still increase over time with recessions being shallower and shorter, and booms not being so dramatic and, increasing inflationary pressure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this article simply untrue, the fact that Keynesianism has been a sound economic theory for almost 80 years and is now being undermined isn&#8217;t right.<br />
It is correct, in stating that the money governments spend has to come from somewhere, mainly out of the &#8216;economy&#8217;s pocket&#8217; but when borrowing occurs, it borrows onto the government debt, meant to be re-payed in times of prosperity. It does not simply redistribute wealth right there and then. What the government should be doing, is borrowing now, whilst the economy heads to recession, and increase spending in order to bolster consumer spending and investment, but then be taking the money out of the economy in the good times, &#8216;the boom&#8217;. This way the two extremes of the standard boom and bust economic cycle are softened and the standard of living can still increase over time with recessions being shallower and shorter, and booms not being so dramatic and, increasing inflationary pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/myth-government-spending-stimulates-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-166185</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keynes&#039; general theory as any economics student will tell you is at the core of the practice of modern economics. That&#039;s not to say other developments haven&#039;t been overlayed upon it, but the general theory is still central. It&#039;s basically practiced to a greater or lesser extent by governments of every description around the world, what else have Paulson and Bernanke been doing for the last year. Honestly, Keynes denial along with science/evolution/global warming and all the other denials is why conservatism and the GOP is so completely f$#@e&amp;* up at present. I just read some of the stuff here and much it along with the original posting belongs with alien abduction belief, scientology, holocaust denial, Elvis sightings, and just about every other nutball theory that&#039;s out there. If we carry on subscribing to this nonsense it&#039;s going to destroy conservatism as widespread belief system and reduce us to a lunatic fringe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keynes&#8217; general theory as any economics student will tell you is at the core of the practice of modern economics. That&#8217;s not to say other developments haven&#8217;t been overlayed upon it, but the general theory is still central. It&#8217;s basically practiced to a greater or lesser extent by governments of every description around the world, what else have Paulson and Bernanke been doing for the last year. Honestly, Keynes denial along with science/evolution/global warming and all the other denials is why conservatism and the GOP is so completely f$#@e&amp;* up at present. I just read some of the stuff here and much it along with the original posting belongs with alien abduction belief, scientology, holocaust denial, Elvis sightings, and just about every other nutball theory that&#8217;s out there. If we carry on subscribing to this nonsense it&#8217;s going to destroy conservatism as widespread belief system and reduce us to a lunatic fringe.</p>
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		<title>By: Pejman_Yousefzadeh&#8217;s blog &#187; Not All Of Us Are Keynesians Yet ::</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pejman_Yousefzadeh&#8217;s blog &#187; Not All Of Us Are Keynesians Yet ::</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and present some reality-based economics to the self-styled &#8220;reality-based community.&#8221; Here is something from a few weeks back showing that Keynesian theory is all wet: . . . Keynesian theory [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and present some reality-based economics to the self-styled &#8220;reality-based community.&#8221; Here is something from a few weeks back showing that Keynesian theory is all wet: . . . Keynesian theory [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake Peachey wrote at #28: &quot;The government can indeed create an asset to which the marketplace will ascribe full value. And this would not be a liability to be paying off with future cash flow.&quot;

Full value? To which individual valuers in which marketplace, and at what times and for what purpose?

Fiat money inflation (temporarily) benefits only those who are first to get the new currency - the politicians and their friends.  From there, as the purchasing power of the dollar declines, each successive receiver and holder of dollars gets successively more shortchanged for his past real labor and savings.  This is why counterfeiting - whether legalized or not is always morally wrong; it&#039;s theft!

Mr. Peachey&#039;s arbitrary floating abstractions need to be concretized - i.e., tied to perceptual reality.  Fiat does not create real sustainable, stable, reliable value; only production of real, not fiat, goods and services can create real wealth.

This is the root problem of the mainstream modern economics profession: virtually no economist studies the root of economics - production and trade by individuals and incorporations.  They&#039;re too busy studying consumption for the statist folly of concocting ever more impossible schemes to centrally &quot;plan&quot; and manage&quot; the flow of billions of individual trades.

Read J. B. Say, and learn, as Ayn Rand put it, that &quot;When you accept money in payment for your effort, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for the product of the effort of others... Destroyers seize gold and leave its owners a counterfeit pile of paper.  This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values.&quot; [like the FED] &quot;Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced.  Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked &#039;Account overdrawn.&#039;&quot;

We need to return to free banking and privately issued, competing  currencies.  Then the quality of our money would be restored and its value would again be objective - set by millions of individual traders every day instead of by the whims of 12 Fed governors every 6 weeks.

Of course, the statists demand a monopoly on the issue of currency because if they had to compete with REAL money, they be out of business in a week and their giant looting scheme would be over.  

Under a free market, only reckless fools would take Federal Reserve IOU Nothings in payment for their hard work.  Abolish the Fed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake Peachey wrote at #28: &#8220;The government can indeed create an asset to which the marketplace will ascribe full value. And this would not be a liability to be paying off with future cash flow.&#8221;</p>
<p>Full value? To which individual valuers in which marketplace, and at what times and for what purpose?</p>
<p>Fiat money inflation (temporarily) benefits only those who are first to get the new currency &#8211; the politicians and their friends.  From there, as the purchasing power of the dollar declines, each successive receiver and holder of dollars gets successively more shortchanged for his past real labor and savings.  This is why counterfeiting &#8211; whether legalized or not is always morally wrong; it&#8217;s theft!</p>
<p>Mr. Peachey&#8217;s arbitrary floating abstractions need to be concretized &#8211; i.e., tied to perceptual reality.  Fiat does not create real sustainable, stable, reliable value; only production of real, not fiat, goods and services can create real wealth.</p>
<p>This is the root problem of the mainstream modern economics profession: virtually no economist studies the root of economics &#8211; production and trade by individuals and incorporations.  They&#8217;re too busy studying consumption for the statist folly of concocting ever more impossible schemes to centrally &#8220;plan&#8221; and manage&#8221; the flow of billions of individual trades.</p>
<p>Read J. B. Say, and learn, as Ayn Rand put it, that &#8220;When you accept money in payment for your effort, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for the product of the effort of others&#8230; Destroyers seize gold and leave its owners a counterfeit pile of paper.  This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values.&#8221; [like the FED] &#8220;Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced.  Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked &#8216;Account overdrawn.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>We need to return to free banking and privately issued, competing  currencies.  Then the quality of our money would be restored and its value would again be objective &#8211; set by millions of individual traders every day instead of by the whims of 12 Fed governors every 6 weeks.</p>
<p>Of course, the statists demand a monopoly on the issue of currency because if they had to compete with REAL money, they be out of business in a week and their giant looting scheme would be over.  </p>
<p>Under a free market, only reckless fools would take Federal Reserve IOU Nothings in payment for their hard work.  Abolish the Fed.</p>
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		<title>By: The Folly Of USGOV Stimulus packages and Keynesian Economic Theory: (On the Bailout, Part 31) &#171; PurpleSlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Folly Of USGOV Stimulus packages and Keynesian Economic Theory: (On the Bailout, Part 31) &#171; PurpleSlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Historian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Historian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMERICA&#039;S REAL ECONOMIC CHAOS
Those in charge, trying to fix this economy, don&#039;t have a clue:

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/americas-real-economic-chaos.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMERICA&#8217;S REAL ECONOMIC CHAOS<br />
Those in charge, trying to fix this economy, don&#8217;t have a clue:</p>
<p><a href="http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/americas-real-economic-chaos.html" rel="nofollow">http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/americas-real-economic-chaos.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen McQuade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen McQuade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Unemployment remained very high throughout the 1930s and overall output did not get back to the 1929 level until World War II.&quot;

But why did WWII end the depression?  Oh, because government spending increased aggregate demand.  That put the unused capacity of the nation to work.

Under serious recession/depression conditions deficit spending is indicated.  The problem becomes it is addictive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Unemployment remained very high throughout the 1930s and overall output did not get back to the 1929 level until World War II.&#8221;</p>
<p>But why did WWII end the depression?  Oh, because government spending increased aggregate demand.  That put the unused capacity of the nation to work.</p>
<p>Under serious recession/depression conditions deficit spending is indicated.  The problem becomes it is addictive.</p>
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