Comments on: No Smoke, Fire, or Truth in Anti-War Book

By: Mortimer

Mortimer — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:26:04 +0000

It’s easy to have contempt for these pacifists of WW ll. But I object to trashing Gandhi: he was being totally consistent and he abhorred Nazism. He was opposed to war on moral grounds and was no Jew hater. Our cause was just, but at the end we were becoming more and more callous and brutal. Initially we condemned the Nazis for bombing of Warsaw, Guernica and Rotterdam but at the end of the war we were burning a Japanese city off the map every 4 days. Does it matter what the actual statistics of deaths in Dresden? It was an act of horror, even Germans have souls. It was not our finest hour. More people died in the Tokyo firestorm than the Atomic attacks. Yes, they started the war and were brutal as heck but let’s look at our souls and methods if we want to make any claims to moral superiority. It seems that today’s cons can’t get beyond Munich and Auschwitz and the logic that engenders where there is no limit to what we should do to the enemy.

By: Misanthropicus

Misanthropicus — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:22:16 +0000

There was mixure of factors which lead to WWII: the ascension & rivalry of the one party/states in Europe (Soviet Union/3rd. Reich), the militarization & acute ideologization of both (on nat’l revanchist and supremacis line of Germany, and the attempt of mondialization of the marxist doctrine/Russian imperialism line in Soviet Union) – AND! the european pacifism.
Remember the “Ah! Les cons!”? (”Ah! Those idiots!”/ Daladier, about the adoring crowds praising him for saving the continent’s pece when returning from Munchen after ceding to Hitler the entire Mittle Europe).
Appeasement – don’t we see similarities beween those years’ pacifists and our times’ enlightened, lefty crowds? and what about the consequences of appeasement?

By: J.J. Sefton

J.J. Sefton — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:57:38 +0000

Hats off to most here especially Rubicon and Tom W. Of course if (heaven forbid ‘when’) a mushroom cloud appears over Central Park, you can bet that the Dhimmi Carters, Noam Chomskys and VIchy-crats will naturally blame us for it.

Sad

By: L. Raj

L. Raj — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:20:52 +0000

Evil exists. It must be confronted and rooted out.

Sadly, even great men like Mahatama Gandhi could see only good in people and never knew how to adequately counter evil. As a result, India was partitioned and millions killed in the process. Mahatma Gandhi still refused to see the pain of partition on a personal level and called on suffering Hindus and Sikhs to cheerfully, non-violently embrace death doled out by the militant muslims of Pakistan.

His countless peace marches, hunger strikes and emotional blackmail techniques have been used time and again by peaceniks around the world. Like children with temper tantrums, they insist on prevailing against sound judgment and reasoning. Sometimes, like well meaning parents, we give in to avoid the pain of dealing with their whining and crying and public embarrassment.

Sadly, this is bad policy ! Evil can not be reasoned with and it certainly does not remember “One good turn deserves another.” Quicker everyone understands this, the better – as we are facing another great evil in the world and we need to face it with firm resolve.

By: OmegaPaladin

OmegaPaladin — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:57:38 +0000

I think the author was trying to say:

“They were written in 1925 by Sir Edward Grey. [Grey had been the] British Foreign Secretary at the outbreak of WWI.”

By: Cogito Ergo Doleo

Cogito Ergo Doleo — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:51:37 +0000

Hrmm . . . Nit-picknic? Mr. Kamm’s comment may confuse some slightly; but, given the fact most anyone aware of WWI knows the years it devoured, Mr. Kamm’s meaning is not lost on informed readers (and, ISTM, ill-informed ones wouldn’t notice). For clarity’s sake, I s’pose the sentence might have been more accurately phrased thusly: “Sir Edward Grey, British Foreign Secretary at the outbreak of WWI in 1914, penned those words at least a decade after the fact (in 1925).”

OTOH, we both agree Mr. Kamm’s assessment is witheringly accurate, thank HIM. (And, FYI, it’s “Post-WWI,” GM Roper . People who live in niggle-nitzical houses ought not toss bared boner-groaners . . ..)

Just my deux.

By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:47:32 +0000

And slowly but surely the history of the world is being rewritten.

The question is, how long will it take……30 years?….50 years?….before those enjoying the freedoms bought by the deaths of 55 million souls convince each other that Hitler was, in fact, the good guy.

Inevitable and utterly shameful.

By: GM Roper

GM Roper — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:42:59 +0000

Mr. Kamm: “They were written in 1925 by Sir Edward Grey, British Foreign Secretary at the outbreak of WWI.”

A minor correction in an otherwise superior posting. 1925 is NOT at the outbreak of WWI. 1925 is slightly POST WWI.

By: Tom W.

Tom W. — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:37:00 +0000

Somebody had to post it, so let me be him:

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

–John Stuart Mill

By: Dark Helmt

Dark Helmt — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:19:04 +0000

Yet another over simplification of a complex event with personal agendas mucking up the waters every step of the way.

Oh wait, that is history 101