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1. Cletus:

I’m going to laugh [i] so [/i] hard when Obama loses

Sep 6, 2008 - 12:28 am 2. poul:

but how do you really feel about obama?

j/k, great article, will quote and read again.

i hope one day mccain runs an ad about obama’s connections to unrepentant domestic terrorists and black panthers. than, it will be over.

Sep 6, 2008 - 12:47 am 3. SAF:

Obama and Biden are lawyers. McCain and Palin are not.

Any wonder why the law lobby contributes to democrats?

McCain is a great strategist and Obama is a gifted orator. Who would you rather have running the country?

Obama’s only compass is getting elected to the white house. In times of crisis that isn’t good enough. At some point substance is required.

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:08 am 4. Joshua:

Make no mistake; Democrats are frantic now that the man behind the curtain has been revealed.

Dude, what the hell are you talking about?

They represent flyover country, the real America that most Americans live in

You realize that two-thirds of the population of the country lives along the coasts, right? I mean, just as a point of order.

Obama-Biden’s support comes from the big cities crammed with all of America’s social ills

And most of America’s colleges and universities. And, here again, I have to point out that, at the moment, most “social ills” like teen pregnancy, alcoholism and violence generally occur at higher rates in rural areas than they do in urban areas. But don’t let that stop you from digging up a meme that is — at least — as old as Shakespeare’s pastoral comedies.

But of course, I’m just messing with you. Carry on with your weird existential crisis theme.

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:12 am 5. xtina:

thanks to your enlightening, well researched commentary on the Obama camp state of mind, I can finally identify this strange nausea I have felt since watching the RNC as “existential crisis”. Clearly my “buying decision” as a supporter of intelligent change was a mistake swayed by the fact that I live in a mire of “social ills” in my big coastal city. Oh wait, if I am not conservative I must be a social ill myself in your eyes. Now I can see the light. Who am I? How can I carry on with such identity confusion? Oh, the crisis . . .

ok, now seriously, What the HELL are you talking about?

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:59 am 6. 888:

Outstanding article, Mr. Poole.

The Democrats just do not get it: America is moderate or conservative. America is NOT liberal — case in point, see what became of Dukakis, of Gore, of Kerry and pretty soon of Boy Wonder. (By the way, Clinton was a centrist moderate.)

Democratic machine, hear this: the heartland of America does not relate to Madonna, Reverend Wright or William Ayers. Get a clue! We’re not stupid.

Sep 6, 2008 - 2:09 am 7. Ed Wallis:

Mr. Poole, EXCELLENT ARTICLE! My favorite parts:

“Meanwhile, Obama’s public image has suddenly begun to revert from the carefully choreographed caricature of the bike-riding savior of the planet to the more candid and accurate picture of the Chicago political machine operative with the cigarette hanging out of his mouth.”

and

“Another gauge of the crisis inside the Obama camp is how his cheerleaders have come absolutely unhinged as the psychological strain of the Left having to appear mainstream is beginning to show. The smears that came out last weekend got their campaign way off message. Whether it has been Andrew Sullivan telling us that Sarah Palin recently gave birth to Elvis’ love child, or the lunatics at the Daily Kos asylum trolling the internet for pictures of her having tea with Adolf Hitler, the tight rein that Obama had kept on his smear merchants has suddenly been loosed, exposing to the world the company he keeps — including his Weather Underground terrorist friend, William Ayers.”

VERY NICE…heh.

Sep 6, 2008 - 2:21 am 8. Broadsword:

Some of Obamba’s memorable orates(sic): “…I don’t want her punished…with a baby.” “She was a typical white person.” “I don’t look like all those other Presidents on the dollar bill.” “We are the ones we have been waiting for.” “Did I mention, that I’m black?” “This was the time when the rising of the ocean…”
Right up there with “A house divided against itself cannot stand”. Or, “…and in the hills. We shall NEVER surrender!” Or, “Mr. Gorbachov. Tear down this wall!” Or, “…but by the content of their character.” Or, “Ye strain at the gnat, and swallow the camel.” Or even, “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.” Great orater my stubbed toe.

Sep 6, 2008 - 3:35 am 9. Mark:

The most frightening issue is that half of “polled” America actually bought in to Obamania in the first place. We have “community activists” in Richmond, VA as well, but usually associated with a healdine including the words “former” and “jail”. Any updates on Barack’s birth certificate? The parts that weren’t penciled in?

Sep 6, 2008 - 3:45 am 10. Koblog:

Victor Davis Hanson observed that America doesn’t elect lawyers, except for Clinton. And without Ross Perot’s distraction he would not have gotten in either, with only 43% of the vote.

Lawyers generally will take any side, no matter how evil, if it advances their pocketbooks.

McCain’s acceptance speech showed me for the first time what he means by “Country First.”

“Country” isn’t in Obama’s Ayers/Alinsky/Harvard Law world view, much less his smoke and mirrors campaign. He, after all, is a citizen of the world and won’t even put the flag of the country he seeks to run on his aircraft.

This campaign is about revealing the true animating forces within each man–and now, because of McCain’s courage, woman.

McCain is trying to get his message out. Obama is trying to hide his (and his wife’s).

Paraphrasing Al Rantel of KABC790 AM radio, “Conservatives are afraid they will be misunderstood; Liberals are afraid they will be seen for what they are.”

Sep 6, 2008 - 3:55 am 11. god:

The Republicans are running a tabloid election: many personal attacks and clever but misleading phrases. No solutions to issues. This time the Democrats have the right position. I’m not going to convince anyone of this because the Banana Republic mentality is quite widespread. This country could be better if we half-use our brains.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:03 am 12. Ed Wallis:

“NOTgod,” You are suffering from delusions and projecting your own behavior onto others.

“tabloid election”? “many personal attacks”? and “clever but misleading phrases”?

Check, check, and CHECK…for Zerobama:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/05/us-weekly-begs-readers-to-stay/

__________________________

As to your revealing masterpiece, “This country could be better if we half-use our brains“, I can truly imagine that only a half-wit would say such a thing.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:15 am 13. Ed Wallis:

“NOTgod,”

I believe it is exactly those in “Banana Republics” who “half-use” their brains, and so end up living in “Banana Republics”…or, was that the point that you wanted to make: that YOU WANT TO DESTROY The United States of America in that manner?!

Fraud.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:22 am 14. cedarford:

Patrick Poole - the Obama campaign has always been about big government liberalism, labor union dinosaurs, and K Street fat-cat lobbyists — Washington politics as usual

Change a few words, and you have big government pork, corporatist dinosaurs, and the same K-Street fatcats under Bush and Delay.
McCain has voted for most of it. The 40% growth in gov’t spending even outside Bush’s Iraq Fiasco which set us back a trillion. Bootlicking the corporatists and richest 1% instead of unions and working people. The same sort of K-Street fatcats laying out the gravy trough for Corrupticans and they did for Welfare-crats.

Same Wahingtom politics as usual except Dubya thinks he has figured out how to spend recklessly and cut permanently taxes on the rich. Borrow it from China, let people repay it after he is long gone from office.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:26 am 15. Andrew Ian Dodge:

So the trashing of Palin is not tabloid?

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:27 am 16. Obi's Sister:

Koblog - President John Adams was a lawyer. But he wasn’t the sleazeball that most lawyers are.
——————

Outstanding post, Mr. Poole! Oz is crumbling. There’s an old southern saying, “You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.” What Obama is made of has been outted for the world to see.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:54 am 17. Kent Ramsay:

Good article, but it gauzes over a key point - there are fairly strong policy differences between McCain and Palin. A conservative must hope that Palin will succeed in moving McCain from long held positions like 1) no offshore drilling, 2) no drilling in ANWR, 3) government set limits on business use of energy (cap and trade), 4) opposed to tax cuts, 5) for amnesty for illegal immigrants, 6) for government regulation of political speech, 7) for government acton against certain “bad” industries, eg, oil and pharmaceuticals. Palin seems to be right on energy and taxes. Don’t know about immigration.

The danger is Palin is just an “election strategy” that may prove very smart, energizing the conservative base and reaching out to regular people who love a good American story. Republicans of late have been famous for running as conservatives and then governing as moderate liberals, which is pretty much McCain’s recent history. The good news is that Palin seems principled - she has resigned from one job where she saw corruption rather that be part of it. I hope she would do the same if McCain is elected and the reverts to his liberal tendencies. Let’s see if she convinces him to switch his position on ANWR. How can he conceivably maintain his position against it, when he just picked an Alaskan who knows how lame the “pristine” argument is.

Kent Ramsay

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:56 am 18. RE:

Kent,

What you say makes sense, but first things first. Stopping the Democrat socialist agenda has got to be the priority.

If nothing else, Sarah Palin has amplified the call for a return to basic common sense to a level that the country club Republicans will find difficult to dismiss.

Sep 6, 2008 - 5:13 am 19. dutch:

So Cedarford, Obama’s first major decision is to hire Biden as his VP. As you say “politics as usual.”

Sep 6, 2008 - 5:19 am 20. Boris:

This article is delusional.

“Meanwhile, Obama’s public image has suddenly begun to revert from the carefully choreographed caricature of the bike-riding savior of the planet to the more candid and accurate picture of the Chicago political machine operative with the cigarette hanging out of his mouth.”

Let’s see. Over the past couple of weeks, Obama’s favorable ratings have moved up about 2 points and his unfavorable ratings have moved up about 2 points. He maintains a +21% favorable rating and yet, somehow, you have evidence that his image has suddenly shifted. Dream on.

Sep 6, 2008 - 5:22 am 21. Militant-Infidel:

Newsflash to the left:
It is difficult to win a debate or to even have your message appreciated if the first thing out of your mouth (or keyboard) is to question the intelligence of your opponent. Perhaps you should just stick to MOONING your adversary.

I do hope you don’t take this advice, and I suspect I won’t be disappointed.

Sep 6, 2008 - 5:24 am 22. gldnldy:

Kent, Palin is not ‘just an election strategy’. She knows her stuff when it comes to energy. She blows away any of the 3 candidates and most of the Washington politicians when the discussion turns to this subject. That’s one of the main reasons McCain picked her. He knows energy is a national security issue, as well as a domestic, economic one. He will listen to what she has to say on this issue, and eventually I think she will succeed in convincing him to take on her ANWR position. Energy will prove to be the defining issue for this Republican ticket and what will catapult them into the White House.

Sep 6, 2008 - 5:27 am 23. BC:

Another dopey, fact free article. Republicans have made a complete complete botch of things the past several years, and mockingly calling the Obama “the One,” or “Barry,” or trying to maliciously and moronically smear him with stuff like that Ayers nonsense just highlights what a collection of lowlifes they have become. McCain may have been a maverick of sorts back in 2000, but he has long since become just another GOP toadie — supporting Bush’s position 95% of the time, doing a birthday cake photo op with Bush on the day of Katrina, misrepresenting (or outright lying about)Iraq war and the supposed surge (how many of you know that we are currently paying off about 70,000 Sunni insurgent members to leave the Shi’ites alone, hassle al-Qaeda, and play nice in general?) and currently using vile PNAC-ers as advisers (Bush had a pile of members of the Partners for a New American Century on his staff, and the PNAC had a standing desired policy of getting Saddam Hussein removed — 9/11 made for a nice excuse, and all was needed was a little exaggeration or two about WMD’s, al-Qaeda connections and such….)

With McCain, you will get the same old, same old knee jerk, poorly thought out crap that he himself had been party to. Palin has one good sounding speech (content wise, it was kind of dumb) and the highlights in her political history only consist of a couple of instances of disagreeing with the over the top greedy, corrupt behavior of her Republican colleagues in Alaska.

Obama is not only easily the best choice for genuine reform, he is the only choice. No smart, ethical, well informed person is going to vote for McCain, but you Republicans can take some heart from the 2004 elections — no smart, ethical, well informed person voted for Bush then either and look what still happened. Such is the state of the news media and American politics these days…..

Sep 6, 2008 - 5:39 am 24. misanthropicus:

True… and let’s wait, it’s Saturday and there are some polls which measured the entire week to come out - probably there is more there to give the Dems and Oprah reasons for… perhaps “blues” is the term.

Sep 6, 2008 - 5:51 am 25. gldnldy:

god: “The Republicans are running a tabloid election: many personal attacks and clever but misleading phrases. No solutions to issues.”

You need a dose of reality. It’s the Democrats and Obama’s surrogates who’ve been doing all the vicious personal attacks from Day 1. They were quick to question Palin’s experience calling her “a lightweight” (she having only been a governor, mayor, business owner and sportscaster), even though, to date, they still cannot come up with a single piece of legislation that Obama has penned or any accomplishment he has made while a community organizer, while in the Illinois senate and while a US senator (the latter is especially troublesome and embarrassing because all he’s done in the past 150 days is to campaign and vote “Present”). Palin, on the other hand, has led, managed and has overall responsibility of the day-to-day government operations of the largest state in the nation; has vetoed legislation; brought down a corrupt and entrenched good ole boy network; balanced budgets; served on an Energy Commission; and, serves as commander of her National Guard unit, even donning her commander’s uniform and visiting her unit in Iraq. Also, Obama’s surrogates pounced on Palin for being a delinquent mother while serving as governor implying that that’s why her 17-yr old daughter got pregnant, but none of them ever mentioned that Obama’s mother was herself only 18 years old when she got pregnant by Obama’s already married Kenyan father, nor did they criticize John Edwards when he was out campaigning and enjoying Riehl while his cancer-stricken wife was at home tending to the young children, or how about both Clintons working and Bill frolicking around Arkansas and the White House with mistress and girlfriends in tow while Chelsea was also in grade school. The Democrats and the Obama-maniacs have shown their true colors, and America knows it. They are the height of hypocrisy, and they’ve lost credibility big time.

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:29 am 26. gldnldy:

BC, what exactly has Obama accomplished in his adult life that makes you say he’s “the best choice for genuine reform”?

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:32 am 27. Robbins Mitchell:

Baroque Obozo has now been redefined from the ‘candidate of change’ to the ‘candidate who needs an old Beltway fart on the ticket to ingratiate himself to Washington insiders…and it is slowly dawning on him that tap dancing through the watermelon patch passing out pork chops ain’t gonna put any hay in the barn…how’s that for a mixed metaphor?

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:34 am 28. WR Jonas:

We will know Obamas campaign is falling apart when Joe Biden contracts a mysterious disease and has to be replaced on the ticket

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:34 am 29. Albert:

Excellent article. McCain’s choice of Palin was brilliant, and it shows in the absolute hysteria of the Democratic party. As Napoleon once remarked, never interrupt you opponent when he is making an error. Thus if the Democrats had truly perceived McCain’s choice to be such an enormous blunder, they would have sat back and watched her go down in flames. Instead they unleashed their surrogates — both in the media and in the fever swamps of the internet — to spread the most horrendous lies and fabrications. Fat lot of good it did them! When Americans met Sarah Palin they loved her.

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:36 am 30. ES:

Who’s Your Messiah Now?

Sarah Palin’s rapid elevation from small town mayor to candidate for national office to revered deity, has got me asking if conservatives aren’t taking a bit too much of the savior in mass (or smoking crack). The hyperbole exceeds satire.

Who’s your messiah now? Sarah Palin. And you better pray she’s studying hard and paying off the townies back home, or she just might be a false prophet.

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:39 am 31. Letalis Maximus, Esq.:

Sigh.

OODA. Loop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_Loop

The old flyboy still has a few tricks up his sleeve, it seems.

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:40 am 32. Steve:

The country is waking up and seeing Obama for what he is… “The emperor marched in the procession under the beautiful canopy, and all who saw him in the street and out of the windows exclaimed: “Indeed, the emperor’s new suit is incomparable! What a long train he has! How well it fits him!” Nobody wished to let others know he saw nothing, for then he would have been unfit for his office or too stupid. Never were the emperors clothes more admired.

“But he has nothing on at all,” said a little child at last. “Good heavens! listen to the voice of an innocent child,” said the father, and one whispered to the other what the child had said. “But he has nothing on at all,” cried at last the whole people”. Hans Christian Andersen (1837)

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:43 am 33. DC Gamer:

BC - “moronically smear him with stuff like that Ayers nonsense” - Wishing the inconvenient truths away only works in fairy tales. The fact is, Obama began his career in the Chicago political machine surrounded by disreputable characters: William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist; Rev. Wright, the “black liberation theology” racist pastor; Tony Rezco, the slimy slumlord, et al. He cannot claim that he was unaware of their dubious character since he spent years in association with them.

Calling McCain a “GOP toadie — supporting Bush’s position 95% of the time” also fails to stick. First of all, I think that you read your Democrat talking points incorrectly. They usually claim 90% not 95%. Anyway, the reason conservatives were lukewarm or even hostile to McCain is because he separated himself from the GOP on many occasions. The only reason conservatives are excited now is because of his brilliant VP choice, Sarah Palin.

The fact that your rant is so childishly filled with name calling and innuendo suggests that you are scared that a “smart, ethical, well informed person is going to vote for McCain.”

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:56 am 34. gldnldy:

ES, you got us wrong. Conservatives’ revered deity and messiah is not Sarah Palin — our messiah is the Lord himself, unlike Obama worshippers who experience an “epiphany” and witness planets healing, clouds trembling, doves singing…when in the presence of the great teleprompter-orator.

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:57 am 35. BobNC:

Some day we will thank our neo-communist media, the labor union fat cat bosses and the black racist thugs who all supported and raised up Obama. If they hadn’t rigged the contest in Hussein’s favor, Hillary would be the nominee. Hussein is such a nothing and the contrast between the tickets so stark that McCain should take the White House easily. It wouldn’t have been so easy against Hillary. So, anti-Americans, thanks for taking Hillary out (at least assuming the dems don’t pull a Lautenberg for Torrecelli on us).

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:00 am 36. Freedom's just another word..:

Damn scared Democrats launch a new, false attack against Palin in an attempt to discredit her.

The news is reporting that Palin “flip-flopped” on the Bridge to Nowhere, and never sent back the money. The source of these news storeis is a “Mayor Bob Weinstein” of Ketchikan, Alaska.

Bob Weinstein is an entrenched Democrat. He is Alaska’s longest serving Mayor.

Bob Weinstein also has an ax to grind against Sarah Palin.

In May 12, 2008, the Juneau Empire newspaper reported in the story, “Ketchikan mayor says bias shown in road plan” the following:

Ketchikan’s mayor, angry about the loss of the city’s infamous “Bridge to Nowhere,” is accusing the Juneau-based Department of Transportation and Public Facilities staff of bias against his project and being in favor of the Juneau Access Project. “It has been obvious to me for some time that the Southeast Region of DOT has an emotional commitment to the Juneau Access Project, and has been driving the project forward through the use of what appears to be inaccurate, incomplete and/or misleading information,” wrote Bob Weinstein, mayor of Ketchikan, in a March letter to DOT Commissioner Leo Von Scheben.

Palin gets nominated, an entrenched Democrat Mayor with an ax to grind against Palin starts a story, the liberal newspapers pick it up, and the Mayor Weinstein’s accusations become “fact”.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:05 am 37. Scott Somerville:

American elections are won or lost state by state, and here’s Obama’s problem: he’s got all the big dark blue states (like New York) and no boom in partisan popularity in the hotbeds of the Eastern establishment are going to add to his electoral votes.

The Rust Belt and the Rockies have been teetering between blue and red for the last four years. This election will be won or lost on Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. (With Joe Lieberman campaigning for McCain in South Florida, Obama can probably concede that state.) Palin is a western governor with a libertarian streak–a cross between Ronald Reagan and Annie Oakley–which ought to do well out west. No amount of Biden’s bloviating or Obama’s oratory is going to win them more rural votes out west. I’d say Colorado and Nevada go pink this year, and New Mexico is REALLY close.

Then there’s the Rust Belt. Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania are in play in a big way. McCain can concede inner-city Philadelphia but he’s back in the race for the suburbs. He won’t win State College, PA, but he’s going to fight Joe Biden for Altoona, Allentown, Harrisburg, and everything north of Pittsburgh. Obama COULD NOT have said anything more damaging than his “bitter” quote, and Palin pounced on it in prime-time. Pennsylvanians don’t like people who say one thing in Scranton and another in San Francisco. If Obama loses Pennsylvania, it’s over.

Michigan is the one state where race really is going to affect the outcome. A black mayor just resigned in scandal in Detroit. Hard economic times make people tense, and there are plenty of white guys who feel like they can’t feed their families because of affirmative action. McCain and Palin aren’t going to run as the White People’s Party, but they’re going to do everything they can to put Palin in front of union men who are sick and tired of being blamed for black America’s woes. The “angry white male” is out there–all they need to do is vote, and McCain wins Michigan.

Then there’s the Evangelical base, which is OVER THE MOON about Palin. (I speak for myself, here.) I think they’ll give McCain the edge in Kansas, and Missouri, and maybe even Iowa.

The Show-Me State is going to be interesting. It has a big African-American population, but it’s still arguably in the Bible Belt. I don’t think Obama has done what he needs to win in Missouri. Missouri’s most famous obscure vice-presidential pick once said, “The buck stops here.” The One from Illinois says it’s “above his pay grade” to decide when babies acquire human rights.

The only state where Palin might conceivably cause the Republicans to lose a state they might have won with a different pick is New Hampshire. I think the Granite State would have responded well to a Lieberman pick, but only at the cost of half a dozen others. If McCain unleashes Sarah Barracuda on the Rockies and the Rust Belt, he can go back to town hall meetings in Manchester and get back in the game there. I’ll bet he can win New Hampshire if he wants it.

None of this says McCain/Palin win it. It is, after all, a “Hail Sarah” pass, and it’s hard to catch a football fifty yards down the field when you’re five points down in the final seconds of the fourth quarter. Sarah can stumble, and the press is twice as ready to pounce as they were when they went offsides on the last play.

But…

It’s far and away the most fun politics has been in my lifetime! We’re looking at two championship teams that are both “on their game” for the Super Bowl. Let’s wish all Americans well as we enjoy self-government at its finest!

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:10 am 38. LogicalUS:

Note to liberals casting dispersions upon people’s intelligence:
The “brilliant” Obama failed miserably as an attorney, a “community organizer”, a state senator and his small leadership experience with the Annanberg boondoggle which wasted 45 million dollars attempting to turn Chicago education into marxist indoctrination centers, but now he is going to save the world? I suppose in liberal “intelligence” circles being a complete failure is the ultimate qualification but you will soon find out in the rest of the country not so much.

Obama is neither especially intelligent and definitely not experienced but
presents a nice picture and you are gullible enough to fall for it. Not too bright, huh!

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:10 am 39. Javelin:

This is pure bs, full of cliches like “big government liberalism” or the “Messiah”. But when you are just a right wing hack who can’t think out of the box, cause he can barely think at all except in slogans, this is what you get. Serve up all the tight slogans and fears, and all the usual idiots here will respond like the sheep they are.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:13 am 40. Zhombre:

1.

“And I looked, and behold a roaring snowmobile, and her name that sat on it was Palin, and Hell-to-Pay followed with her. And power was given unto her over the red states of the West and the South, and Ohio and Michigan, to injure the Messiah with irony, and with sarcasm, and with plain speaking like those of the red of neck who slay the beasts of the earth and mock the pharisees of Harvard and DC.”

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:14 am 41. Fallon:

ES-

“Who’s Your Messiah Now?”

Well, I don’t have or want a Messiah running for office. Sarah Palin is the woman next door with aspirations, intelligence and gumption. No one worships her, though we’d like to have her on our side in a conflict. She’s real. Messiah’s need vague and mystical backgrounds. Her resume and record haven’t been scrubbed clean to obfuscate who she is, whom she knows, what she has accomplished or how she stands on issues. I don’t agree with her on every issue. I don’t agree with anyone on every issue but I like her as the VP candidate. There is definitely a balanced sense of yin and yang on the Republican ticket with a generous sprinkling of nonconformity, but no Mesiah worship, sorry.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:22 am 42. Chad:

Wow, with the exception of Joshua, Obama’s team didn’t get any of their filth in here for almost four hours. Their budget must really be hurting when their blog attack chihuahuas take that long to bring their talking points.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:23 am 43. Dave II:

“The wheels are starting to come off the Messiah Express.”

Ouch! Ya gotta pity all those people under the bus right about now!

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:23 am 44. N Campbell:

Pride goeth before a fall!

Cheers.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:28 am 45. Deb D:

Sarah Barracuda has convinced me to vote for the “maverick” McCain. Anyone with a brain won’t vote for Obama, the enlightened lightweight. If liberals are so concerned about Mrs. Palin’s experience being “a heartbeat” away from the presidency, then there’s no way they could vote for Obama’s lesser experience being the heart of the presidency. Why is this so hard to understand? Oh, I forgot, truth is relative.

Just remember,those of you on the left, what Margaret Thatcher said: “The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:29 am 46. Barry Dauphin:

One of the reasons for the wheels coming off is revealed in the attacks on Palin. By comparing the #1 on the Dem ticket to the #2 on the Rep ticket so shrilly, they revealed their insecurity. When Palin was announced, she became the “one”. She got the excited attention of many. Team Obama can’t allow someone else to become “hot”, since that is what he’s riding on.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:35 am 47. Concerned Citizen:

Speaking of Hitler, Obama is having his own “mini-Hitler” moments.

To wit:

- The Leni Riefenstahl-esque spectacles we have witnessed in Denver and Berlin are symptomatic of a kind of megalomania not seen since Mussolini or Hitler.

- Brownshirt-like tactics of sending letters threatening Department of Justice actions against TV stations who air an ad that apparently was completely factual. This is extremely troubling for constitutional rights.

- The beyond nasty treatment of Sarah Palin, bordering on persecution, backed by the Obama campaign (which let things run their course for a couple days before telling people to “lay off her family”). Pushing obvious lies through proxies, as Goebbels said “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. “.

Disinformation, lack of disclosure by Obama and the fact that he wasn’t properly vetted by the media. Trouble ahead.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:46 am 48. Deb D:

Zhombre –

Hillarious! Thanks for the chuckle. I especially liked “those of the red of neck who slay the beasts of the earth and mock the pharisees of Harvard and DC.”

Good stuff

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:54 am 49. Jim Kidder:

It seems as if Obama picked Biden because he knew that he would need those connections AFTER he had won the election, not because he needed Biden to WIN the election. He already thought the election was won. This reflects arrogance and hubris of the highest order.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:03 am 50. Self-hating boomer:

Some day we will thank our neo-communist media, the labor union fat cat bosses and the black racist thugs who all supported and raised up Obama. If they hadn’t rigged the contest in Hussein’s favor, Hillary would be the nominee.

I was just thinking about that a little earlier. Obama would have been smart to quit while he was ahead, and take Hillary up on her offer to be her VP. That ticket would have been a much more uphill battle for McCain/Palin than this one. Now, he’s destined to to become another also-ran nobody like Dukakis. Careful what you wish for, O messiah. Your hubris got the best of you.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:04 am 51. The Den Mother:

Joshua: “And most of America’s colleges and universities. And, here again, I have to point out that, at the moment, most ’social ills’ like teen pregnancy, alcoholism and violence generally occur at higher rates in rural areas than they do in urban areas.”

So now we know you’re capable of pulling stuff out of your ass. But just because I’m in a playful mood, find me one bit of reliable evidence to prove your point (not that I expect you to come back here and read this). And just to give you something to push off from, chew on these facts based on, you know, reality:

1) There is no statistical correlation between population density by state (as measured by the 200 U.S. census) and teen pregnancy rates (compiled by Guttmacher Institute, “U.S. Teenage Pregnancy Statistics: National and States Trends and Trends by Race and Ethnicity”, updated September 2006).

2) There is no statistical correlation between population density by state (as measured by the 2000 U.S. census) and violent crime rates by state (as reported by FBI Uniform Crime Reports).

(If you want to see scatter charts showing both correlations, e-mail me - denmother at gmail.)

3) I can’t readily find alcoholism rates, but since you pulled that item out of your ass too, there’s no reason to believe you aren’t wrong on that as well.

Obviously, this doesn’t account for urban versus rural areas within a state. But on its face, it illustrates quite well that Joshua is high.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:04 am 52. AdrianS:

In our form of government we have a Judicial, Legislative, and Executive branch. Obama claims his “executive” experience was as a “community organizer.”

To expand on the definition of executive experience, please note that:

Executive experience, in part, means holding a position subject to responsibilities as prescribed by law, managing human resources, managing budgets and making decisions, which have the potential of affecting several to many people, or the public in general.

The Honorable Governor of the Great State of Alaska, Sarah Palin, has been a council person, a mayor, and now a governor. All of these are positions of intense responsibility.

Obama has NO executive experience.

Please view the article listed below, “Obama’s Community Roots,” which reads, “In 1985, freshly graduated from Columbia University and working for a New York business consultant, Barack Obama decided to become a community organizer. Though he liked the idea, he didn’t understand what the job involved, and his inquiries turned up few opportunities.”

The article continues elsewhere, “He discovered the importance of personal storytelling in politics …” And, “Despite some meaningful victories, the work of Obama–and hundreds of other organizers–did not transform the South Side or restore lost industries.”

The same article says, “A recent Los Angeles Times report contended that Obama overstated his own importance …”

Not really much to Obama’s “experience”; no definition of responsibilities, no results.

ARTICLE: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg.

I just learned that Mr. Obama was head of the Harvard Law Review. However, the ONLY article he appears to have written was on abortion. Wouldn’t you know it.

Barack Obama’s Sole Article in Harvard Law Review Promotes Abortion
http://www.lifenews.com/nat4184.html

Add to Obama’s lack of experience, a severe lack of judgment.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:14 am 53. CalDem:

Wow! I guess I’m just a novice here but it seems there really are political operatives that post on this site. I just found this site and I like it except for the paid political advertisements that show up over and over…wierd!

I live in one of the most liberal states in the U.S., California. I fnally understand what my conservative friends have been so upset about. 3-4 metropolitan counties run the other 48-49 counties completely out of state politics. My parents were Reagan Democrats and I’ve seen the Democratic party become more and more strange over the past 15 years. I still want to help people with my politics but today liberalism seems more inclined to take away from people. I guess it’s true, maybe I’m just growing up and faced with adult decisions.

I started a business 2 years ago and OH MY GOD what a freaking nightmare the government has made for us here in California. It’s no wonder there is a mass exodus of business from this great state. And don’t even get me started on the absolutely insane educational system here. From primary education through the universities it is one big mess - 50% dropout rate on top of all the touchy feely “education.”

I guess it was John McCains speech that woke me up to the fact that I’m an American not a Democrat. I think John McCain is actually the real Democrat in this race and he brings a strong woman as a Republican. To me that is the best of both worlds. I will get a Democrat (John McCain) and a Republican (Sarah Palin) on the same ticket. Sorry Barack, I just can’t do it anymore. CalDem = CalInd

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:26 am 54. Ed Wallis:

ES: how convenient - and not surprising - that you ignore Palin’s current (and 2 year long) position as GOVERNOR of a State in the Union. FRAUD.

Javelin: Based on too many of your posts at PJM, it seems that the “thinking outside the box” which you recommend consists of little more than “beyond the truth and facts”…outside that spacious styrofoam temple-world which you inhabit, we mere mortals call it LYING.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:47 am 55. Chuck Pelto:

TO: CalDem
RE: [OT] THAT Problem….

3-4 metropolitan counties run the other 48-49 counties completely out of state politics. — CalDem

….is EVERYWHERE in this nation.

It’s not necessarily a matter of party politics, although most metropolitan areas seem to be dominated by the Democrat Party.

The most important reason for that problem stems from a Supreme Court ruling in 1964; Reynolds v. Simms. Infamously misnomered as the One-Man/One-Vote ruling.

What it did was destroy the balance of legislative power between metropolitan and rural areas by declaring that at the state level the state senate MUST be elected based on population and NOT on geography. This destroyed the concept of what we enjoy at the federal level in Congress known as The Great Compromise; wherein the House of Representatives is based on population of a state and the Senate is based on all states being equal, geographically.

Now, here in Colorado, the Denver metropolitan area holds 17 of the 35 seats in the Colorado State Senate. And Denver is continually sucking up all the resources it can handle through that overbearing presence in the upper house.

EVERY state in the Union, less Nebraska—which has a one-house legislative body—was affected by this insidious and heinous ruling. And the situation is just going to keep getting worse until the Supremes revisit this ruling and overthrow it.

I would LIKE to see the McCain-Palin campaign address this problem.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:04 am 56. E. Nough:

“But when you are just a… hack who can’t think out of the box, cause he can barely think at all except in slogans…”

Change!

Hope!

Yes we can!

We are the ones we’ve been waiting for!

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:07 am 57. Sandra M:

I keep reading about all these categories: red vs. blue state, urban vs. rural, etc. etc. I acknowledge two categories, people who think for themselves and those who don’t.

I don’t hunt, fish, was raised in Manhattan, have no children, am not a Christian, nor a Conservative — and I LOVE Sarah Palin as I haven’t loved a politician since Ronald Reagan who had so many lies and smears hurled at him that the mud eventually hardened into a Teflon shield. I laugh at the left-wing fantasy that she will “stumble.” If Sarah stumbles, millions of hands will be outstretched to her to help her right herself.

One of the few things I have in common with Sarah Palin, other than libertarian tendencies, is that on the college debate circuit, the word got around “watch out for the BARRACUDA on rebuttal.”

I am in awe of Palin’s skills as a speaker and debater. As Michael Reagan wrote in HUMAN EVENTS, “Welcome Back, Dad.”

I, like the PUMAs, “love her mad assassin skills.” (Tom W. PJM commenter)

Did you see her take on Obama’s muddled answer to O’Reilly on the surge? I, who had little interest in watching the interview am now mesmerized because having seen a preview of a segment from next week’s interview I can already anticipate Sarah’s rebuttal. Delicious!!!

I appreciate some of what George Bush did: the war in Iraq was the right war in the right country (secular, entrepreneurial with oil AND agriculture) to change the entire Middle East.

But both Bush presidents were total and utter failures at persuasion, rhetoric, skills of which Reagan and Palin are masters. Read Reagan’s speech at Moscow State University and you see THE master of soft power in action.

We need a great advocate for capitalism and freedom. In Sarah Palin, we have found the world’s best.

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:19 am 58. Truth Fairy:

I was just a-settin’ here, clingin’ to my gun, and it dawned on me that mebee John and Sarah are gonna have to campaign together for the rest of the way. John can’t draw them crowds by hisself.

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:21 am 59. Sue:

Great discussion….One of the reasons that I visit daily. To CalDem, California is where I’ve rested my head for over forty years. I have watched it deteriorate yearly. The City of LA wants a 10% sales tax, temporarily, as usual. They charge patrons .25 cents per bag if they don’t have their own. Almost every facet of life if so dictated by the laws of the socialists yet, nothing gets done. They are billions in debt but continue to take per diem of over $100 daily even when they are not in session, the guards here make close to $36 per hour plus benefits. They get over $140K per years including overtime and they want more, more and more just like very union in this state. But, go to any government run facility and watch the laziness that afflicts them. They hire temporary workers just so they don’t have to put in a full day’s work. Welcome to what happens when you want the government to do all things for all people.

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:26 am 60. Truth Fairy:

Moderation? I’m new to this. What kind of moderation are you looking for?

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:26 am 61. rookwood:

I have an idea…

Why don’t we just expose and tag the trolls for all to see and end it there. What purpose is served by arguing with them their flawed sense of reasoning? Certainly not going to change their view, or opinions.

I was waiting to be seated for lunch yesterday and watched a report on CNN (OMG!)interviewing “on the street” peeps on their take of Sarah. To my utter disblief, one respondent said (paraphrasing)he could never accept anyone who was featured in so many tabloid magazines. It is most unfortunate that the right and priviledge to vote is extended to these people.

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:28 am 62. Herb:

When you said “Messiah Express” I thought you were talking about Sarah Palin for a second. Then I realized it was just more mockery of Obama.

I’m sure that kind of stuff makes you feel good, but it’s not going to win you any elections.

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:32 am 63. Porkov:

There is so much about Obama to mock, and he’s so pretty when he pouts.

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:48 am 64. Dave S:

Joshua: You hanging around to check responses to your post? How about this–

You say, “You realize that two-thirds of the population of the country lives along the coasts, right? I mean, just as a point of order.”

I say, just as a point of order, do you ever research before throwing out random numbers, or do you just make them up out of your preconceptions and prejudices as most liberal tend to do?

Please see http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0004986.html. This is a table titled “Population by State.” I put the numbers in a spread sheet, state by state. Then I made two columns– one with states having ocean coastline (i.e., Gulf coast, such as Texas, doesn’t count) and the other having even the slightest coastline (e.g., New Hampshire has about 60 miles of Atlantic coastline and was included). Due to my perception of social make-up of Alaska, and since by inference you include that state in your “rural” category, I included Alaska in the non-coastal column.

Guess what! the coastal column makes up 48% of US population, with the non-coastal, “flyover,” country having 52% of the population. So, as is typical with libs, you made up a “statistic” and it is horribly wrong. While I’m too lazy to check your “social ills” “statistic,” I’m willing to bet that in both absolute terms and per capita there are far more unwed mothers, single-parent households, and drug-addled parents in the cities than in rural areas.

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:51 am 65. Samson Wright:

Perfectly said. Palin, the One.

Not since Reagan. The next few weeks will tell. Palin, the One.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:03 am 66. john from cinncinati:

doing the right thing is hard, but its not impossible. i like a good story same as the next guy. Baracks story started turning into a ghost story, not much substance.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:09 am 67. Formwiz:

888, Bill Clinton was/is a centrist moderate like I’m Sarah Palin. He governed with his finger in the political wind, but he often let his true feelings show; treatment of the military, Elian Gonzales, and, of course, the real reason there was no middle class tax cut in his administration, “We could give it all back to you and hope you spend it right”.
Just like Barry Soetaro.

On McCain’s campain strategy, Patrick Poole is right. The guy running it must be a jiu-jitsu master; he has taken Obama’s whole strategy and turned it against him. Robert Rogers would be proud.

If McCain is calling the shots himself, it’s too bad he wasn’t CINCPAC in WWII instead of Chester Nimitz. A lot more Marines would have survived the war.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:12 am 68. CalDem:

Chuck Pelto - “EVERY state in the Union, less Nebraska—which has a one-house legislative body—was affected by this insidious and heinous ruling. And the situation is just going to keep getting worse until the Supremes revisit this ruling and overthrow it. I would LIKE to see the McCain-Palin campaign address this problem.”

I can’t put my finger on it, but I have a feeling McCain/Palin actually can make positive changes for our country. I would sure like to have a Congress that wouldn’t fight them at every step. I know John McCain has worked in a bi-partisan way, but part of the problem with my party (former now) is they just seem to lose their mind when it comes to actually taking care of government business. I mean look at the last session of Congress before summer vacation. The Democrats totally blew off the American people on an up or down vote for drilling off shore.

Sue - “To CalDem, California is where I’ve rested my head for over forty years. I have watched it deteriorate yearly.

Sue, as I’ve tried to start and run a business in California it has literally made me sick to my stomach to deal with all the taxation, regulation and bureacratic nonsense, layer after layer of govt. I’m am not kidding you, the size, scope and reach of the California government has completely sucked the life out of my dream to be an entrepreneur. It actually made me think about the Democrats in control of this state as communists. I know they’re not, but the sense of despair my wife and I have dealing with the taxation alone is not what America is about. I don’t feel like I live in America anymore. I feel like California is some European country that just wants to take more and more from hard working people. This is why, after hearing Barack Obama’s plans the past year, I can’t vote for bigger government, ever! Sorry for rambling on.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:13 am 69. Robbins Mitchell:

My sister who lives just outside of Nashville and is with the Tenn Ed Assoc but is no doctrinaire liberal had an interesting take on this election…she told me she is going to vote for McCain because even though she may not agree with him on some things,he is the kind of man she respects and trusts like our late father…who also served in the Navy (Okinawa 1945) and because “Obama strikes me as the kind of guy who will smooth talk you out of your panties to get you into bed but when you wake up in the morning you find he is gone and has snatched your purse,too”

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:17 am 70. Mystic55:

Yeah I’m a democrat and I’m TERRIFIED!

Oh noz! McCain has a budding serial killer hockey mask mom as his VP.

Gee. Scary.

The only way Obama can’t loose is if he’s too dumb to show her for what she is.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:22 am 71. Herb:

A little perspective for Dave S:

Massachusetts is only about 10,000 square miles, but it’s population is greater than Kansas, Nebraska, Montana, and both Dakotas…COMBINED. Washington DC has more people than the entire state of Wyoming. California has almost twice as many people as New York state, but New York state has more people than all of Kentucky, Louisiana, Alabama, and Missouri.

Also, are the governors of California and Florida not Republicans? Those two states alone account for 18% of our country’s population! (Almost a 5th, in TWO states!)

This country is big, diverse, and a little lop-sided. It’s not a bad thing or a good thing. It’s just how things are.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:30 am 72. Election ‘08: Coming down to Authenticity? | The Anchoress:

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Sep 6, 2008 - 10:33 am 73. Rotwang:

I firmly believe that McCain/Palin can lead America to where it needs to be…in 1952.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:35 am 74. Ed Wallis:

I’ve heard about Joe Biden’s fate…but I wonder…

…is Barack’s face also showing up on milk cartons yet?

GOT PALIN?

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:41 am 75. Andy:

Look, this is real simple.

A Republican ticket with something, is going to beat empty rhetoric every time.

No matter how much the media and the dems try to hide the sins of candidates, people will find out, and realize that there is an attempt to cover up.

The dems try and run candidates who pretend to be what the republicans really are.
Do I need to remind you of the Kerry “Can I get me a hunting license heyah?” incident? I bet Palin knows where to get a hunting license, and I’m sure we’ll have a photo op with Obama in hunting camouflage showing how he is just the ‘everyday’ guy. Meanwhile he’s worrying about the price of Arugula.

This is why the dems have lost the last 2 elections and why they’ll lose the next one.

The dems are offering the left most 2 candidates available. Do you think that is where America is at?

Normally, moderates and non-far-right republicans have to put up with candidates that lean to the right of where they are. Now the far right is having to lean to the left of where they are and the centrists are leaning right to McCain.
Obama is too far left for the centrists to lean to and there is no-one to the left of them to lean to the right. Therefore, there is a small base of support for Obama, and a major piece of support comes from dumbos that vote for Obama for no reason other than he’s for change and they see him on the news along (thanks to a helpful media, what was it, 7 times on the cover of Time magazine this year? McCain 2?).

These people can be swayed the other way with a good narrative and lots of media exposure.

I often think the the Dems were deliberately throwing the last 2 and the current election so that they can continually play the injured under dog, claim the Right stole the election, blame the republican president for everything and still get the benefits of being somewhat in power without having any responsibility and having to be a grown up.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:45 am 76. Ed Wallis:

Rotwang - 10:35 am: “I firmly believe that McCain/Palin can lead America to where it needs to be…in 1952.”

HEY “RED CHEEKS,” if that’s so, Obama/Biden would lead The United States to where Russia was…in 1917.

Traitorous blathering, Mister Thinking-Ouside-The-Deconstructivist-Cereal-Box.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:47 am 77. Mike Boyce:

You are 100% correct. The left-wing Liberal and liberal establishment with the willing use and abuse the established main stream media were working on the 4th decade of brainwashing Americans into thinking that they, the left wing radicals, had Americas best interests at heart. In reality they have always had their own way out radical far left extemist views at heart. Disarm American citizens, wipe out American business and break America’s free enterprise economy, eliminate free speech from the Conservative and Christan side, persecute Christians and remove God, dishonor American servicemen and women, burn our flag, re-interpret the Constitution through radical left wing court appointments and bring our free society to its knees. At the heart of all of the left wing extremists was the Democratic Party and the media as their established vehicles through whom they would become all powerful and the dictatorial law of the land. Obama is, at the bottom of all of this, totallly inexperienced in leadership and wisdom, both in domestic matters and especially on international matters. Terrorists and America’s long standing communist enemies have been rubbing their hands with glee at the sight of America continuing to self-destruct internally and the thought of Obama becoming President, so as to once again, a la Clinton, disarm and demoralize the American Armed Forces and arrive at the point where we cannot defend ourselves from anyone or anything.

McCain and Palin represent hope, clarity, original American spirit and values, true freedoms, faith in our Father (which was a given in the times of our founding fathers) and strength both internally and militarily.

I’m revved since Mrs. Palin came on board. She’s got spunk, spirit, values and intelligence. D**n the left wing torpedoes and full speed ahead. It’s time for a GOP narrow front spearhead with McCain and Palin with the flank support and mop up of GOP supporters close at hand. Don’t give ground Mr. McCain and Mrs.Palin, it costs twice as much to try to re-take that lost ground. Maintain an open, honest and values laden frontal attack. You both have the charachter qualities to do it and to do it the right way. This ticket is good, very, very good.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:58 am 78. BC:

To gldnldy:

Umm, did you miss the part about how McCain supported Bush 95% of the time, has PNAC members on his staff, is making the same misleading BS statements about Iraq, and in general has not given any indication whatsoever that’s it’s not going to be the same old, same old as usual? Are you the type who would keep taking your car to the same crummy, sleazy, overpriced auto repair place because….well, you think all auto repair places are rip-offs and it’s better to stick with the devil you know? That’s actually a very good reason to NOT vote for McCain — how can you expect to get better, more competent political leaders if there are little or no consequences for bad behavior and crummy service? As far as Obama goes, he’s already proven to be very, very potent organizer — how do you think he reached this point? That might seem trivial, but Presidents are wholly dependent on the people surrounding them to do the grunt research and present the choices, and Obama will obviously (painfully so) bring in much higher caliber people genuinely committed to making this a country a better place than McCain will, whose adviser choices already include PNAC members, all of whom should be put into an Iraqi prison if there is any real justice.

And as far why as more specifics to vote for Obama as opposed to just voting against McCain, there is an awful lot of right wing FUD cluttering up Google, but I did find this not so bad detailed page: http://www.grist.org/feature/2007/07/30/obama_factsheet

Hope this helps.

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:07 am 79. Cletus:

BC:

I’m guessing if Barack was caught hanging out with Ramzi Yousef, or Timothy McVeigh, or Eric Robert Rudolph, you would call it a whole lot of nothing as well, huh? Because they are all EXACTLY THE SAME AS AYERS. They are all BOMB SETTING TERRORISTS. So when you say that the whole thing with Ayers is nothing, is that a passive agreement with and acceptance of terrorism?

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:17 am 80. Joshua:

Den Mother:

Obviously, this doesn’t account for urban versus rural areas within a state.

That’s funny.

I’m not going to get into a big research battle with you about this because, for one thing, there are too many opportunities for little tricks like the one above — not accounting for urban vs. rural areas within the state. There are other variables: sample size, timeframe, definitions of “urban” and “rural” and so on, and, basically, I just don’t care that much. Like I said, I was just messing around to begin with. If you honestly think that “social ills” occur at a significantly higher rate in cities — ie “crammed” — than they do in rural areas, you’re welcome to it.

Dave S:

Was that satire?

I said two-thirds of the population lives along the coasts and you respond by arbitrarily re-defining the word “coast”. Gulf states don’t count? Alaska, doesn’t count? Tell me, Dave, does Florida count? It’s got coastline in the Atlantic and the Gulf. Or what about Hawaii? Hey, I have an idea — let’s not count any state with a “w” in its name, because I clearly hate George W. Bush. I think that actually takes out most of them.

Other than that, if you use the definition of “coast” you find in most dictionaries — which would include the Gulf Coast and Alaska — I believe my point was entirely accurate.

So, as is typical with libs, you made up a “statistic” and it is horribly wrong. While I’m too lazy to check your “social ills” “statistic,”

Contrary to what you seem to be suggesting, not all statements that involve a number, ratio, or comparison should be considered “statistics.” If, for example, I were to say that Mount Everest is taller than Mount Rainier, that Bob makes five times as much as Robert, or that Dave S is dumber than a bag of hair, none of those are actually statistics, as the term is commonly applied.

In conclusion, you guys seriously need to relax.

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:19 am 81. bmc:

The sad truth is that many of us Democrats saw this coming a mile away. Barack Obama is simply a coward–and he proved that with his pick of Biden. And, the DNC proved their cowardice too, in the face of the Obama campaign’s election fraud in every single one of the caucuses–well documented fraud–which the DNC chose to ignore, not to mention the disenfranchisement of 2.3 million Democrats in order to select–not elect–the best candidate for the campaign. But, to top all of that off, as the final blow to the party, Obama refused to add that candidate to the ticket as his VP. Why? E.G.O. He couldn’t take having a more qualified candidate, a better candidate, a more popular candidate overshadowing him. This party–my former party–has been pathetic in its breathtaking stupidity this entire campaign season. I’m voting McCain/Palin. And the Democratic Party can stuff it where the sun don’t shine. They deserve to lose–bigtime.

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:22 am 82. Ed Wallis:

“BC,”

When you further promote the jaded, EMBARASSING-TO-THE-LEFT-TO-PROMULGATE canard of, “…McCain supported Bush 95% of the time…,” did you or your Zerobama-bots ever stop to consider that this “95%” includes a number of GOOD DECISIONS?!

It seems more and more that the Leftist posters out there are more interested in mimicking the “sophisticated contrarian technique” of 2-year-olds having just learned to say “no!”

GROW UP.

*** McCAIN / PALIN ‘08 !!! ***

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:26 am 83. Herb:

The guy who calls Obama supporters “Zerobama-bots” admonishes us to grow up…

That’s rich.

Sep 6, 2008 - 12:07 pm 84. Uli Pele:

This Obama supporter is fine. I have confidence that the American public will see McCain for the lying liar that he actually is. First McCain said Iraq would be an easy victory, then a few years later he said he always “knew” it would be difficult (LIE). First McCain said he doesn’t really understand the economy, then he called himself and economic “expert” (LIE). McCain tries to paint himself as some maverick outsider who’s going to stick it to the lobbyists, but his campaign is chock full of the biggest, sleaziest lobbyists on capitol hill.

How can the republican’s swallow McCain’s mistruths and deceptions and not choke? I think the American public tuned into his speech to see if the skies would open up and strike McCain with lightening for lying one too many times, or if McPinnochio’s nose would bust out so fast that it would impale the blind supporters cheering on the convention floor. (I’m actually surprised neither happened.)

Sep 6, 2008 - 12:11 pm 85. mr burns:

Dear Ule Pele, on your planet is a lying liar better or worse than a liar ? If so is a lying lying liar worse still ? Please respond at once . My inner 2 year old needs to know.

Sep 6, 2008 - 12:41 pm 86. Rubicon:

Just to clear up an issue….. Community Organizer is not a bad profession. There are many across the nation, doing very good things.
When they become connected to outfits like ACORN, or the Gamaliel Foundation, who support socialism & government control of our lives,
“then”, community organizer takes on a whole new meaning. Then it mean, rabble rouser. Then it means socialist agitator. Then it means, we want the Constitution to “breathe” or flex, according to social conditions of the times, that “we” determine mean it is out of date.
It also means we support judges making rulings that create law, so we can circumvent the legislature & not have the people vote on an issue or be able to express their opinions.
I commend those community organizers working for “real change” and the improvement of the lives of those they serve. I do not commend those seeking to make political change that matches “only their point of view” while the rest of America pays the bills for it!

Sep 6, 2008 - 12:45 pm 87. lee:

“This Obama supporter is fine.”

Good for you, but maybe you should be a little concerned. Considering Bush’s LOW approval ratings, slow economy and gas prices, and the always controversial war in Iraq, Obama should be leading by 10% right now. If the GOP candidate was someone like Mitt Romney or Huckabee, he would be.

Sep 6, 2008 - 12:47 pm 88. Rubicon:

Another update on “big oil contributors.”

Seems a large number of corporate executives from “big oil” are donating to…………..

the Obama campaign.

Its not McCain, its ALL of them!

Sep 6, 2008 - 12:47 pm 89. Rachel Peepers:

How can little old blond blue eyed me, a simple college coed, add anything to the discussion when you guys have filled the analysis trough to overflowing. From Cletus to Mike, excluding a few Code Blue (for brain dead) Marxists, you guys have explained things better than Edison explained electricity.

At this point, the brown eyed handsome man’s campaign is like a car with four bald tires that’s suddenly hit ice. It’s lost all its traction.

To make a military analogy.

Once Patton’s 3rd Army hit the beaches of Normandy on August 23, 1944, they did nothing but attack, stopping to sleep, first sprinting east across Germany, (parts of the 3rd armored division diverting north to visit the little town of Bastogne), then tearing through Germany,Czechoslovakia and then into Austria where the war ended. And victory achieved.

I propose the McCain/Palin political expeditionary force should do the same. For the next 65 or so days, attack, attack, attack.

Certainly rebut lies and smears, but don’t let them get you off track. Concentrate on moving forward. And attacking. Fire salvo after salvo at Barack’s pansy brigade.

The targets are obvious.

From Barack’s drill-less energy dependence scheme, to his pansy-ass plan to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq, to his tax raising promises, to his Reparation plans, to his bridge-playing terrorist partner Bill Ayers, to his refusal to ever use nuclear weapons (or nuclear energy), to his detailed plans to gut the military, to his incredible but steadfast and ludicrous denial of the surge, to Michelle’s redistribution of wealth nonsense, to their quest to eliminate free speech, to his desire to nominate left wing judges to rewrite the constitution in the image and likeness Karl Marx, to every hair brained left wing scheme imaginable, attack, attack, attack.

Barack Obama has the instincts of a bully, the tactics of a liar, and the character and integrity of
a common thug. He’ll bravely step up to a microphone because a microphone can’t hit back, but falls apart like a private school boy when faced with somebody who doesn’t back down.

Barack Obama and the Smear Merchants. One hit wonders. A band whose 15 minutes of fame is about to vanish. And their leader, Obama, at best a misguided politician. At worst a devious paper tiger.

One that’s about to be crumbled up and, like a rotten apple, thrown away. Because it’s rotten to the core.

Let history record that once a left leaning Marxist named Barack Obama actually won the Democratic nomination and ran for President.

Further, that a tough-as-nails woman from Alaska and a man who virtually came back from the dead, joined forces. Then, using a combination of true grit, and a John Wayne belief in America stopped the Barack machine in its tracks. Handing it a one way ticket to oblivion.

The sailor will soon be kissing the nurse. We’ll once again be looking forward to the future. And Johney will be marching home.

New England may have lost the Super Bowl. But the Presidency will be won by the patriots.

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:05 pm 90. Navlav8ter:

LOL this is a hoot. Right on bro. Talk about squealing like a stuck pig. The left are in this country are imploding. Wheels coming off….I think Barack Hussein Obama overinflated his tires to improve his mileage. Now there is a great comparison “The One” said we should inflate our tires as an answer to our energy problems while Sarah was negotiating a $40,000,000,000 gas pipline deal with energy companies and with the Canadian government.

Who can turn the world on with her smile? Who can take a nothing day, and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile? Well it’s you girl, and you should know it With each glance and every little movement you show it ….Sarah’s gonna make it after all!!!!!

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:10 pm 91. Ed Wallis:

Da Peeps sez*: “At this point, the brown eyed handsome man’s campaign is like a car with four bald tires that’s suddenly hit ice. It’s lost all its traction.”

…and after the election, his campaign will look more like Bonnie and Clyde’s car after they were taken….

A “common thug”?! HEY, he’s from Chicago!

* Since Zerobama has now said the surge worked (though not said that he has been “SOOOOOOOOO WRONG FOR SOOOOOOOOO LONG” thank you, Patsy Cline), I’d modify that one…and add “banning guns” to the list.

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:29 pm 92. Terry Gain:

Setting aside the Hope and Change bs, the central plank in the campaign of this black man is his opposition to the liberation of 28 million people. The incongruity of his candidacy is begining to sink in.

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:46 pm 93. Paul M Hupf:

The Democartic party nominee shows himself unfit for the office of President of the United States. Something like 40% of Americans do not pay income taxes. This number would be enlarged by the nominee with government hand outs (he calls them tax credits) so as to create a voting base which he intends to be beholden to him. This is what a “community organizer” does. This is the limit of the Democratic party candidate’s experience.

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:48 pm 94. Moultrie:

Mr. Poole, thank you for putting into words my joy the day John McCain picked Sarah Palin…the money quote: The existential crisis for Democrats is that this campaign is no longer about Barack Obama. It really is about the vision that Americans have for the future, and Americans are now able to envision a future without “The One.” Reality has set in on the Democratic Party and they realize they no longer have control of the public narrative or the political momentum. In a pair of authentic mavericks and challenge-the-system reformers, America is starting to see herself and her highest hopes again.

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:54 pm 95. HRPKathy:

That’s a great stem-winder there, Ms. Peepers. Amen and again I say amen!!!

It’s True Grit vs. The Manchurian Candidate

Sep 6, 2008 - 2:31 pm 96. Herb:

To Ed Wallis…your ignorance does not become you.

Witness:
“I believe in the Second Amendment, and if you are a law-abiding gun owner you have nothing to fear from an Obama administration,” Obama said. “This has been peddled again and again. Here’s what I believe: The Second Amendment is an indvidual right. . . people have the right to bear arms. But I also believe there is nothing wrong with some common-sense gun safety measures.”

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/obama_and_guns_not_going_to_me.html

Banning guns? No.
“Common-sense gun safety measures.” Yes.

Why are you against common-sense gun safety? And why are you talking about a subject you clearly know nothing about?

Sep 6, 2008 - 2:46 pm 97. pappy:

we have too many gun laws now, we need some real jail time for crimes commited with guns. oh, i forgot, we have too many people in jail now and most are minorities. they either commit the most crime, or get caught the most. just think, by 2042 minority people will be in the majority, time to build more jails.

Sep 6, 2008 - 3:39 pm 98. Judy, NYC:

if the democratic party was The New Deal/Great Society party, i would be voting for them, despite obama. it is, not, however anything resembling that model. indeed, joe biden voted for the reformed bankruptcy bill mightily lobbied by the banking industry, that keeps americans in debt till they die. thanks, biden. the democrats who have a mandate from the american people have been sitting in their cushy congressonal seats, voting themselves raises, vacations and full free medical coverage. the democratic party has done nothing for the middle class. and, it is the democrats who invited ingrid mattson, islamic fascist president of the isna, that is funded by barry’s pal, mansour (whose website calls for the murder of jews) to speak at the democratic party convention. you think i would vote for a party like that.
the democrats are just plain full of crap and their islamic political correctness, is driven by the extreme leftists. if you want to know how they think, read huffpo that anti-american rag. it’s the favorite meeting place of anti-semites and terrorist apologists, the same one that poured filth on hillary clinton and bill clinton, calling them racists and every other dirty lie they could think up. morons. after voting democratic my entire adult life, i will vote for mccain-palin, without a backward glance.

Sep 6, 2008 - 3:41 pm 99. gldnldy:

BC, what you showed us is a bunch of proposals, plans and what Obama is calling for. I’m not a professional politician, but, I, too, can come up with a bunch of proposals and plans for America. I asked you to name a significant accomplishment that Obama has done in his adult life. Okay, I’ll give you one: he’s written two memoirs about his life. There, you see, I even helped you. Now, it’s your turn to tell us what other accomplishment Obama has done. We’re waiting.

Sep 6, 2008 - 3:48 pm 100. RE:

It’s good to see conservatives mobilizing again.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:15 pm 101. Battlecat:

“Can anyone really tell the difference between these political triplets?”

I can give it a try: Obama is a fraud, Kerry is a joke, and Gore can at least make a difference in this world without the mantel of presidency. We can argue about global warming and climate change, but Gore’s call to environmental action is admirable because a greener planet with renewable energy resources ultimately benefits us all.

I emphatically voted for Gore, reluctantly voted for Kerry, and will defiantly vote against Obama. Sorry Dems, you purged my vote when you purged Hillary.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:19 pm 102. Self-hating boomer:

you guys have explained things better than Edison explained electricity.

Rachel, love you, but Edison didn’t understand electricity, he just knew how to use it in some cases. Westinghouse understood it, which is why his AC system ended up beating Edison’s DC system. If Edison understood it, he’d have agreed with Westinghouse instead of stubbornly resisting.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:23 pm 103. nobozons:

Where is bo’s love child.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:24 pm 104. WRpeach:

I am sooo tired of hearing the lie that McCain voted 90% of the time with Bush!!!

From Team Obama (and the BC ilk) referencing McCain:

“He talked about bipartisanship but didn’t mention that he’s been a Bush partisan 90 percent of the time…”

According to the Washington Post’s Votes Database Project, http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/,the claims of Obama and the DNC are 100% false. McCain, unlike Obama, does not consistently tow the party line. McCain, unlike Obama, can honestly talk about his bipartisanship.

During the 110th Session of Congress, McCain placed 65th in his party having voted along the party line 88% of the time; Obama placed 12th, voting along the D party line 96% of the time.

During the 109th session of congress, McCain placed 94th, voting along the party line 79.4% of the time; the wiper-snapper placed 5th, voting along the party line 94.8% of the time.

In the 108th and 107th sessions, McCain placed 93rd in both and of course BO wasn’t in Congress at that time, he was doing his damage and conspiring for greater damage in IL.

Rank and % of time voted with party:
2007-2008
Obama - 12th - 96.0%
McCain - 65th - 88.0%

2005-2006
Obama - 5th - 94.8%
McCain- 94th - 79.4%

Of the two, the only one that voted the party line 90% of the time (actually over) is Obama. Obama’s claims to reach across the aisle, of unity and moderation are like most everything else that comes out of his mouth - straight up lies.

And look at the Party Voting Averages during the 110th session ,,, which party is more hard line and less likely to reach across the aisle?

(These scores represent the percentage of votes on which a lawmaker agrees with the position taken by a majority of his or her party members.)

Democrate - 87.6%
Republican - 80.8%

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:35 pm 105. Ed Wallis:

“Herb”,

It does not surprise me that you seemingly confuse mockery with ignorance. You invent strawmen at will, to no avail.

I mention the gun matter since Zerobama said, “‘Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,’ he said. ‘This can’t be the reason not to vote for me. Can everyone hear me in the back? I see a couple of sportsmen back there. I’m not going to take away your guns.’”

Nice “qualifier.” He IS a lawyer. He knows that he doesn’t regularly consult domestic terrorist Ayers, so that’s just OK!…sorta like having the educational advantage of knowing the multi-faceted use of “is”…a hard one to swallow, I know. And anyway, AWW…he doesn’t have the votes in Congress…wink wink.

Oh, yes…”safety measures” CAN mean “seatbelts”…yet so much more as well…euphemisms, like qualifiers, are SOOOOOOOO conveniently flexible.

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:44 pm 106. WRpeach:

Sorry, that link should be: http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/

Sep 6, 2008 - 4:46 pm 107. CoolCzech:

“I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.”

(Quoted from earlier post)

See, what many people don’t realize is that Clinton was referring to Hillary as “that woman.” A wise decision on his part, and perfectly understandable. What Miss Lewinsky’s reaction to Clinton’s confession was… I don’t know.

(wink)

Sep 6, 2008 - 5:34 pm 108. Michel:

Another reason that the Democrats lose - their condecension. We don’t ‘adore’ the one, simply because we are not ’smart enough’. BS! Here, they have finally found a Kerry that is a better speaker, and think that everyone will fall for it hook, line and sinker. Same substance dressed-up in a different package. As a conservative, it matters not how they dress it up - color, gender, disability etc. - It’s the liberalism - stupid. As pointed out, Clinton won by changing the mold a little bit (supposed new Democrat). That cetist approach has all but been banned by the Democrat party…

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:42 pm 109. KansasGirl:

The libs are starting to panic.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:08 pm 110. Rachel Peepers:

Ed Wallis,

I wish newspaper reporters were as skilled as you at understanding the meaning of words.

“Doesn’t REGULARLY meet”

Good for you identifying the weasel word.

Self-hating Boomer,

When I wrote that, I wondered if my statement was in error. But I was too lazy to mull it over. Thanks to you, now I know. Thanks for explaining it to me.

Regards,
Rachel

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:24 pm 111. Dave II:

Some good digging, WRPeach! What you failed to mention though, and what the Obama campaign RARELY, if EVER, brings up or wants to be reminded of, is Obama’s vote in favor of the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill.

Obama voted WITH Bush.

McCain voted AGAINST Bush.

Gee… millions in subsidies to oil companies and Obama votes FOR IT!

NOW who looks like they are in BIG OIL’S pocket? Could it be….uh, Obama???

And who stood up against his OWN PARTY and stuck to his principles?

John S. McCain

If ever there was an agent of TRUE CHANGE, not only for America but for the party he is a member of…it’s John S. McCain.

Oh…and who picked a 36 year veteran of ol’ style northeastern liberal Democratic Party political wars?

The “so-called” hopey, changey candidate…i.e., the empty-suit fraud.

Besides all that…Obama wants to tag McCain as being just like Bush…who has, though low, a mid 30% approval rating.

And yet, he picks Biden, who is a LOOOOOOONG time member of Congress, now controlled by HIS PARTY…and they have an approval rating in SINGLE DIGITS!

TWO SENATORS from a congress with an approval below 10%…and THIS is who they expect American’s to believe will bring CHANGE? Don’t make me laugh!

You can see now why Sarah Palin’s pick has so energized the right, and this election….AMERICA can see WHO is bringing TRUE CHANGE to WASHINGTON!

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:52 pm 112. Jeff:

I agree with most Americans that are apprehensive about Barack Obama’s believed lack of experiences, solely based on the GOP’s assumptions and from the majority of right wing critics out there. But to make my point very clear, do we want to take a chance on a candidate that is perceived to have lack of experiences or do we want to take a chance on a candidate that is perceived to have ALL of the experiences but voted on alot of issues that agrees with the Bush Administration 90% of the time? Are we willing to take that 10% chance that this candidate will make a dramatic change from the previous administration’s horrendous 8 years? To clarify my point even further, Bush says to stay the course in the biggest mistake of the 21st century that we called,”The Iraq War”. Guess who else agrees to stay the course? You guessed it, it’s our very own John McCain. Bush pushed for offshore drilling over alternative renewable energy. You can now guess who else also agreed with this idea, right? If you guessed John McCain, you are on the right track and the list goes on and on. So my last question to all Americans out there is that, does McCain bring anything to the table that truly sets himself apart from Bush? If anyone out there can define something significant that even remotely sets McCain apart from Bush, then you are truly on to something because a lot of us have really missed it. So to end this on a good note for the rest of America to really think about, we are voting for the next candidate to take office not for a day, a week, a month, or even a year, we are responsible for our own actions to bring the next candidate into our everyday lives for the next 4 years. So for all Americans out there, would a candidate who is perceived to have lack of experiences but disagrees with a lot of the Bush Administration’s ideas be that bad for our country? Think about this one and think about it carefully.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:07 pm 113. Jeff:

I would like to address my point one step even further on the similarities between Bush and McCain—
1) Bush will NOT acknowledge that we are in a recession, so does McCain. The fact is that
we have the highest rate of mortgage
foreclosures and unemployment today than any
other time in history since the Great
Depression of 1929.
2) Bush feels that the right war on terrorism
is in Iraq, so does McCain. The fact is that
Osama Bin Laden attacked us on 9/11/01 from
Afghanistan, NOT Iraq, so the right war on
terrorism is in Afghanistan, NOT Iraq. Osama
Bin Laden is still hiding in the comforts of
his cave somewhere up in the mountains on the
border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. He
is still unscathed and untouchable by our
troops to this very day.
3) Bush feels that we should win this needless
war in Iraq, so does McCain. The fact is
clear now that the war in Afghanistan IS the
war on terrorism that we should win. But
they both still put more emphasis on Iraq
than Afghanistan and the troop deployment in
Iraq speaks for itself since it far
outweighs that of Afghanistan in terms of the
volume of troops on the ground.
4) Bush feels that we are at our safest state
now since 9/11/01, so does McCain. The fact
is that we have less alliances now in the
world’s communities than we did with the
Reagan and Clinton Administrations. True
national securities are the ties that binds
us to our world’s communities and the ties
that binds them to us.
5) Bush feels that the solution to independence
of foreign oil is to push for offshore
drilling here at home, so does McCain. True
independence of foreign oil is to promote
alternative renewable energy sources so that
we will not be dependent on foreign oil, ONCE
AND FOR ALL! Oil will be yesterday’s news.

Only one candidate disagrees with all of the Bush Administration’s views and truly sees all of the facts stated above and his name is Barack Obama. Does this make things alot more clearer, America?

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:09 pm 114. Jeff:

Conservatism is the tired old need to hold on to the past while liberalism is the brand new approach to a better change for the future.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:12 pm 115. bucko36:

New ballgame after 8 months of Media Bias “BS”. The “cat” is out of the bag.
Damn the torpedo’s. Full speed ahead. McCain/Palin “08″

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:23 pm 116. Herb:

gldnldy, He beat Hillary Clinton to become the first black nominee for President. There’s two. He was the president of the Harvard Law Review. (Sneer at the liberal elitism of that if you will, but it goes into the “accomplishment” column.) He served as a State Senator. As a United States Senator. Was a law professor, started a family, wrote his books, was a (snort) community organizer. I’m sorry none of those accomplishments impress you, but they count nonetheless.

Ed, Let’s take the man at his word, huh? He has clearly stated in unequivocal terms that he’s not trying to revoke the Second Amendment. He may be lying, and if he is, THEN we should slam him. But let’s not slam him because he’s a liberal and “liberals want to take our guns away.” What is that if not a straw man?

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:39 pm 117. Chuck:

This analysis is prescient. Heretofore, the election was in fact being portrayed as a “referendum on Obama,” with doddering old John McCain being just a placeholder for the “no” vote. But that crafty old fox reshaped the game in the course of a few days - now it is a contest between two stark alternatives.

May I submit something to your attention that I learned at the RNC? One of the starkest contrasts between these two alternatives is the “card check” or “Employee Free Choice Act” iaaue. This determines whether union representation in workplaces will be determined by a secret ballot conducted under uniform regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, or not. For me, this is a defining issue, with consequences that could last our lifetimes.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:42 pm 118. bucko36:

New ballgame after 8 months of Liberal Media Bias.
The “cat” is out of the bag.
McCain/Palin “08″

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:43 pm 119. reno911:

Here’s how clueless the Left is. Obama did not pick Biden. McCain picked Biden for Obama. How? Remember those ads about Obama not being ready to lead and not having any experience? By running those ads McCain manipulated Obama into picking Biden.

The old guy must have learned some Jedi mind tricks back in Hanoi.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:47 pm 120. Nostradamus:

Zogby: McCain/Palin Leads by 4-Points. McCain approval rate skyrockets. Obama approval rate plummets. Folks: The Arctic Fox has fangs, and the fox can hunt. http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1548

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:05 pm 121. Marc Boyd:

After reading all of the comments I had to come to the conclusion that the hard core libs will not change, some Dems will vote for Mac/Palin, and most conservatives will also. I really didn’t see many I’s posting.

I am a conservative and have been since Johnson…a real coward. I went to Nam because of his political unwillingness to win the war. It could have been finished before I was called up. Obama would have been an even worse disaster back then.

To their credit, Bush and McCain stuck to their guns and we will win in Iraq and hopefully we will have a friend in the ME when we leave.

I Author at http://www.fauxnews.org/blog/ and will have more coming up.

Marc

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:09 pm 122. David P:

any undecided voter who thinks Obama/Biden will do more for them over the next 4 years then McCain/Palin are in for a very rude awakening

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:29 pm 123. Dave II:

Jeff- the only thing clear is your gullibility in believing the Democratic Party propaganda points! Let’s see the TRUTH here one-by-one:

1. A recession is defined by 2 quarters of negative economic GNP growth. We have not even had ONE yet! Yes, unemployment has risen and the real estate market is in a downturn, but the unemployment figure of 6.1% is still below the historical average of 7-10% of previous recession periods. And you forget this is a GLOBAL economy now, and globally EVERYONE is in a downturn of one kind or another…some MUCH worse than us.

2. I’m not going to debate the justification for going into Iraq, except to say that 30+ million people are free of a ruthless dictator that harbored terrorists and encouraged terrorism around the globe, and now the Iraqi’s are in control of 90% of their country THEMSELVES! And yes…we DID fight and defeat Al-Qaeda there, NO QUESTION about it, but now all those thousands of jihadists are no longer walking this earth to plot and send their minions HERE to kill innocent AMERICAN lives HERE! All in all, a job (finally) WELL-DONE (thanks to Gen. Petraus) and even though Obama refuses to acknowledge his mistake in not supporting the surge…he now says it has worked! (Gee…20/20 HINDSIGHT is everything..eh?)

3. Uh…do you even read or listen to the news coming from Iraq? Fact is, WE HAVE WON…leaving now would only invite the terrorists and jihadists back in before the Iraqi’s have completed their takeover of security. It’s just dumb, dumb, DUMB (did I say dumb?) to leave now when the country is getting up on it’s own feet. Anything less would be…well, DUMB!! (Oh, but don’t let THAT stop you and your fellow Dems from thinking that!) Oh, and yes, Afghanistan remains a challenge (the Taliban are a whole different “animal”) but then, even YOU feel we should remain there and continue to fight Islamic jihadists so I’ll move on…

4. Well, let’s see about our “safety” now. NOT ONE attack on our soil since 9/11 (and who would ever have predicted THAT 7 years ago?) and as for our “alliances”…again, do you ever read or listen to the news??? BOTH France and Germany have elected PRO-American leaders, and the governments of Poland, Georgia, Ukraine, and others in Eastern Europe are FAR more PRO-American in their thinking, and DEPEND on our standing up to problems with Russia with a COMPLETE understanding of what America means to the free world. You are just TOTALLY WRONG that we have “less” alliances now than during Reagan and Clinton. When you count Eastern Europe, and include counties that have elected pro-american governments…we actually have MORE than during Clinton and especially Reagan. Of course, if you only read Democratic propaganda points or liberal blogs…you wouldn’t know better.

5. McCain feels ALL forms of AMERICAN energy need to be promoted and produced. WHY limit oil production HERE and continue to send our dollars overseas to unstable or unfiendly regimes (like Venezuela!) when WE DON’T HAVE TO! It is just another example of DUMB thinking to LIMIT our OWN oil production here, so we can enrich others, and in the process LOSE more American jobs. Oh, and let me know when that FULLY funtional electric car comes on line at a reasonable price. Until then we will we ALL be using OIL for the forseeable future…even YOU Jeff. (What’s that? I’m right? You DON’T drive an electric car???)

Thus ends the education of one more ill-informed Democrat. Next?

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:39 pm 124. chicago:

Self-hating boomer:

you guys have explained things better than Edison explained electricity.

Rachel, love you, but Edison didn’t understand electricity, he just knew how to use it in some cases. Westinghouse understood it, which is why his AC system ended up beating Edison’s DC system. If Edison understood it, he’d have agreed with Westinghouse instead of stubbornly resisting.

let’s give credit where credit is due, Tesla gave the world AC electricity.

kinda off topic but Tesla’s legacy has been stepped on for generations.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:55 pm 125. Dave II:

Herb…

You didn’t actually say “starting a family” was an ACCOMPLISHMENT for Obama now, did you???

LOL!!! OMG…how low can Dems reach to prop up the empty suit????

Oh, and Herb…educate yourself (I hate doing it all the time for you guys) on the bills Obama supported and spoke out in favor of during his time in Illinois on LIMITING your right to own guns…

Just like abortion (where he NEVER supported a bill limiting ANY abortion method…even down to letting surviving babies die) he was ALWAYS.FOR.ANY. bill RESTRICTING gun ownership, and even sat on the board of the Woods Fund that gave money out to gun-restriction promoting groups.

About the ONLY thing you can say about him on these 2 issues is that he was ALWAYS consistent (and they are about the ONLY thing he HAS been consistent on!)

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:03 pm 126. schnargley:

“What is also causing existential angst for the Obama campaign today…”

LOL! You moronic Republicans look like Gilligan - sinking your own boat. Despite the apparent distress, confusion, self-analysis in the Obama campaign, we have a 2% jump! That’s 2 (two) per-cent! Ever think why? (Noooo, Repukes don’t think..you’re stuck in the Paleocene epoch waiting to evolve one still.) Let me spell it out for you before your two brain cells overheat and blow a fuse.

The reason there is a surge (but this one works) of support for Obama is that he understands us. He knows that we are a nation of narcissists. We are the self-esteem generation. We are in touch with our emotions. We are an angst-ridden generation that fears nuclear war, global warming, CIA-Republican-Christian-multinational corporate-Big Oil company-fascist conspiracies behind most major world events, as well as a fear of intimacy and of death. John McCain scares us to hell as some old relic from a lost civilization, and Sarah Plain, yes, scares us too - she is mom with a bat!

Get it, idiots? The more angst, the greater the existential crisis you force upon Obama, the more we will identify with him, projecting all our hopes, need for love, searching for identity, undefined emptiness and fears upon him, and there will be an even greater groundswell of support.

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:35 pm 127. Danny:

schnargley, so in a year with a deeply unpopular president and massive economic problems Obama is managing a 2% lead - well within statistical error - is a matter of pride for you?

Feel free to identify with him, I suspect you’d identify with stick if someone hung “Bush is a war criminal” on it.

Sep 7, 2008 - 12:21 am 128. Patrick Poole:

McCain-Palin up by 4:

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1548

Suck on your surge, schnargley.

Sep 7, 2008 - 1:09 am 129. Ed Wallis:

“DAVE II”, Thanks for the good start on cutting apart “Jeff’s” nonsense.

I’d like to address only one more item on his tired, old “look at me parrot all the Leftist lines!” laundry list:

The melody usually goes something like this: “McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time!”

Well, most of the useful idiots who voice this one fail to realize that this “90%” includes quite a number of sound, GOOD decisions.

THIS MEANS: These Leftists place a higher priority on invoking the sophisticated “contrarian” technique of a 2-year-old who has just learned to say “no!”

Sep 7, 2008 - 2:29 am 130. Ed Wallis:

Listen “schnargley”, you are not exactly speaking the truth when you write, “we have a 2% jump! That’s 2 (two) per-cent! Ever think why?”

YES, I DO THINK - and know - WHY: the truth of the matter is that, 4 days ago, Obama was 8 points ahead and is now ONLY 2…a DROP of 6 points.

YOUR VERBAL ORWELLIAN TECHNIQUE (”chocolate rations will be RAISED from 150g to 100g!”) IS TOO TRANSPARENT.

Please slither away into the slimy cave from which you appeared.

Sep 7, 2008 - 2:35 am 131. god:

Ed Wallis 9/06 4:03 am:

“This country could be better if we half-use our brains.”

This means that with just some basic efforts, the country could be better. It also implies that lots of people don’t us their brains and they vote for the wrong candidates.

4:15 am

Nobody questions that the Banana Republics use half their brains, but the US is doing precisely that (overall). You need to learn how to read and not put words in my mouth. I don’t want to destroy our country. It’s the opposite. Be aware how Third World we are now. Are you out of touch? We need to be more informed, educated and open minded.

Who’s the half wit now?

Sep 7, 2008 - 3:42 am 132. TomJW:

Rachel Peepers:
New England may have lost the Super Bowl. But the Presidency will be won by the patriots.
Sep 6, 2008 - 1:05 pm

You’re entry was a great summary, but I’m going to have to use that line myself, thank you.

Sep 7, 2008 - 3:54 am 133. Ed Wallis:

AN UPDATE FROM SEPTEMBER 5-6:

McCain-Palin 49.7%

Obama-Biden 45.9%

Sep 7, 2008 - 4:00 am 134. 888:

Herb, Obama’s final title at the U of Chicago Law School was Senior Lecturer (first, he was just a regular Lecturer), but since the school has now been helping him save face after Hillary’s folks criticized Obama for exaggerating his credentials during the primaries, the school has responded to many inquiries by saying that Obama was an untenured professor: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_really_a_constitutional_law.html. As far as him being once the president of the Harvard Law Review, he was picked by the other non-competing student editors, not on the basis of his grades as was the policy before him, but because of a new affirmative action policy the Review had just established (how convenient). He served in that post for 2 semesters, and his volume is not only the least cited volume in the last 20 yrs, it has also been considered the most liberal and radical (probably why it rarely gets cited). In the Illinois state senate, Obama had 0 legislation written. But, just like his performance as a US senator, he made it a point to vote “Present” there, also, every chance he got. Very compelling work history, Herb, and I won’t even dignify the ’starting the family’ bit.

Sep 7, 2008 - 4:49 am 135. Jeff:

Dave II,

It’s just so funny how all of you disillusioned Republicans have different excuses and smokescreens for Iraq. I’ve heard them all. Buddy, IT WAS A MISTAKE. We could not tie any alliances between Saddam and Osama Bin Laden. We could not find any weapons of mass destructions. You, Republicans, are the only ones that are ill-informed and gullible by the propagandas of your own party. Bush completely mislead the entire country. Don’t tell me that he went into Iraq with the intention of freeing the people of Iraq from a ruthless dictator? That’s just a major smokescreen now since no other evidence was found to tie any link to 9/11.

I only have one major question for you that I believe most Americans have on their minds right this very moment. With 4 days left, we are closing in on our 7th anniversary of 9/11. Have we, as the strongest nation of this God’s green Earth, been able to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice 7 years after the fact? We all know the answer to this and the answer is NO. That is why Afghanistan should had been the main focal point of the war on terrorism, NOT Iraq.

Sep 7, 2008 - 5:13 am 136. Herb:

Can we all give Dave II a big raspberry for saying that that starting a family is not an accomplishment? Come on, Palin supporters and pro-family conservatives! Put your money where your mouth is.

For many people, forming a marriage and raising children is the most important thing they will ever do!

Also, Dave, in your world, “common-sense gun safety” clearly means “limiting your right to own guns.” Get some principles, then get back to me.

Also, 888, thanks for the background. Now can you do the same for Palin’s educational career?

Sep 7, 2008 - 6:33 am 137. Ed Wallis:

Oh JEFFIE:

Have WE, “as the strongest nation of this God’s green Earth,” been safe from further attacks since 9/11/01?

If you think you’re really such a smartypants, go join the State or Defense Department.

Oh, RIGHT, it’s EASIER just to Wah Wah WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH….

Sep 7, 2008 - 6:35 am 138. Herb:

Ed,

“Have WE, “as the strongest nation of this God’s green Earth,” been safe from further attacks since 9/11/01?”

No. Over 4000 of our bravest have been killed in Iraq. That doesn’t count the number that have been kidnapped and beheaded.

Oh, those don’t count? I see….

Sep 7, 2008 - 7:00 am 139. exDemocrat:

The candidates’ most important decision was their Veep selection.

Which selection SCREAMS change (I know, rhetorical):

Obama = Biden (36 years in the Senate? Never done anything else in his life? Are you KIDDING me?)

McCain = Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska

Case = closed.

Sep 7, 2008 - 8:25 am 140. exDemocrat:

“McCain said Iraq would be an easy victory”

U-lie, please post the proof of this?

Oh wait. You made it up.

This is not DhimmiUnderground.

Sep 7, 2008 - 8:41 am 141. exDemocrat:

“Sorry Barack, I just can’t do it anymore. CalDem = CalInd”

CalDem, welcome to the (growing) club.

I ordered two “Independent for McCain/Palin” bumper stickers today.

Can’t wait to promote this ticket and REALLY hope a rally comes to where I live (Northern VA).

Sep 7, 2008 - 8:53 am 142. Sara:

One of the major themes Obama has been running is that he is a unifier. That was great until his preacher was exposed as being a big fat racist, radical who hates whites and America. The Obama media tried to rationalize Black racism with it’s usual double standard as it rationalizes discrimination against whites. They don’t realize that Americans don’t accept liberalism’s double standard of race hate.

To most white Americans a white racist is just as ugly as a black, brown, yellow, red or purple one. Either one embraces racism or one rejects racism. Either one accepts the concept of equality and equal treatment before the law or one rejects it.

left embraces racism and preferences just as they have always done throughout American history; beginning with slavery, following on to segregation and the KKK, and now a “diversity” of racsim and inequality and the racial crimes of street thugs. Hate and intimidation is the source of their power.

Sep 7, 2008 - 9:32 am 143. Shocked!:

Obama thinks he is the Messiah. That alone should raise a red flag. Did not Christ warn of false Messiah’s. Did not Hitler think he was some sort of Messiah. Have not previous dictators with ultimate power truly believe they were God’s in their own right. Not that Obama would have ultimate power if elected nor is he Hitler, but the Elites that own him for certain desperately demand ultimate power/world domination.

Here in the net i am looking at a painting of the “Manifest Hope” gallery, which brings together many of the classic works of Obama along with new additions. This particular painting invoked the sacred, picturing Obama’s great head-illuminated by sunbursts-emerging from the clouds over a bare-breasted maiden who is robed in an American flag and emerging from a volcano. In the lower-right-hand corner an assemblage of people are literally kneeling before Obama. They must be his supporters.

“A light will shine through that window. A beam of light will come down upon you. You will experience an epiphany…and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama.”-Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hamsphire, January 7, 2008.

I do not believe Obama is the coming Antichrist. But he strikes me similar to the Biblical John the Baptist-who cleared the path for Christ in the Gospel. Obama seems to be clearing a path for the opposite side. The Antichrist will be a great motivator-a brilliant speaker-a superior intellectual-one that will create illusion’s with artificial miracles. He is the son of Satan. The great majority of people will believe-love him as the coming Messiah. They will worship him as God.

Sep 7, 2008 - 9:42 am 144. tencer.net » Blog Archive » Palinmania update:

[...] no mistake; Democrats are frantic now that the man behind the curtain has been revealed. Despite their shameless attempt to mask their plans behind identity politics, the Obama campaign [...]

Sep 7, 2008 - 9:51 am 145. Dave II:

Jeff- even your “empty suit” is not for a immediate full-on pullout from Iraq, and recognizes the importance of staying their for the security of a strong Iraq. And it’s really USELESS arguing the same tired points you all were bringing up in 2002-03 (around the time the DEMS in congress voted FOR the use of force…including Biden!). Fact is, we ARE THERE, we will continue to BE THERE until the job is complete…and the country of Iraq is far, FAR better off for what we did…not to mention the region as a whole!

But you can keep your head in the sand and wish and lament that Sadaam Hussein and his ruthless sons were still in power with their rape rooms and torture chambers were still in use…but that ship has SAILED!

As for Osama bin Biden, oops, Laden, he is in PAKISTAN…NOT Afghanistan, and yes, he will be caught eventually…but that is a mission that’s like looking for a needle in a mountain range of haystacks…unless of course, you believe sending in our military FULL-FORCE into ANOTHER Islamic country, (that just so happens to be an ally with a new PRO-American President, btw) is a GOOD THING…but I digress. You’re not suggesting THAT now, are you??? You’d not be sticking to the DEM talking points if you are.

Sep 7, 2008 - 9:56 am 146. John:

I’m gonna laugh so hard when the MSM loses this election. That’s right, not the Democrats, the MSM.

Because *they* are the opposition that must be defeated time and time again so they finally learn, once and for all, that they cannot sit in ivory towers and shove their political choices down our throats.

Sep 7, 2008 - 10:02 am 147. Dave S:

Herb: What the hell is your point? Joshua states that 2/3 of the population lives along the coasts. He makes no reference to land mass or individual state populations. So MA is small and heavily populated. Well, California is huge and heavily populated. BFD. It’s moot to his point.

And I do have perspective. I would hate for every thing that governs my life in New Mexico (5th largest state in land mass, 37th in population) be determined by people in Massachusetts who, frankly, generally don’t have proper perspective on these things.

Joshua: Folks describing the “coasts” nearly always are describing the East and West coasts, with everything else referred to as flyover country. (In fact, Wikipedia notes that even the large city Chicago, in Illinois, with Lake Michigan coastline, is considered flyover country.) “Flyover country” is referenced in the blog post and is in your rebuttal. So I have to take you at your word that you are distinguishing the coasts from flyover country.

My summary honors that distinction. Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and, yes, Texas are typically included in that vernacular as flyover country. If your intent was otherwise, you stand nearly alone in that characterization. So sorry.

Regardless, yes Hawaii and Florida were included in the “coastal” states. Florida has Atlantic coastline and so fits the criterion. But Alaska doesn’t count as a coastal state in this sense because, frankly, except for some of the smallest, furthest, unpopulated Aleutian Islands, Alaska’s coastline includes the Bering Sea, the Gulf of Alaska, the Chukchi Sea and the Beaufort Sea. No Pacific Ocean coastline for the populated portions of Alaska. (Or are you concerned about the social ills of polar bears and seals?)

Regardless, I’ll give you all the Gulf Coast states except Texas (definitely a southwest state by all accounts) and the percentage of population on the east and west and Gulf coasts reaches 53% of the US total. Still barely over 1/2. Even with Texas it’s only 60%, but that’s getting enough to 2/3 make a point, but still, inclusion of Texas is arguable.

BTW: you throw out a number, with some attempt at showing knowledge and meant support a point of contention, saying that some percentage of something belongs in some category or another, that’s a statistic. (On the other hand, observing that libs always resort to insults when they can’t otherwise support a point is called “strong anecdotal evidence.”) You would have been on much stronger ground, and still have an interesting point to say half of the population is on the coasts. So, FWIW, your arguments to me and to Den Mother are very weak. Whether, you’re serious or not, whether we’re relaxed or not, when you throw out numbers in a forum you should be ready to have them questioned, if not necessarily ready to defend them. e.g., you must think exaggerating (2/3 vs 1/2) gives a stronger argument, but in fact, being wrong on a fact always weakens your argument.

Sep 7, 2008 - 10:30 am 148. William of Orange:

Rachel Peepers writes:

How can little old blond blue eyed me, a simple college coed, add anything to the discussion when you guys have filled the analysis trough to overflowing..”

Rachel, I love you! Will you marry me?

(Seriously, your post was superb!)

Sep 7, 2008 - 10:50 am 149. geofizz:

Great article (I’m a new Pajamas Media fan), and I hope it’s true that McCain and Palins’ platform of policy reform and change is as obvious to all as Patrick Poole suggests, especially to independents and undecideds. But I’m nonetheless still concerned about how close a race it is, and about whether McCain/Palin are truly going to grab the moment so as to ride the momentum they’ve generated over the past week.

My husband and I (and our 2-year old) attended the McCain/Palin rally yesterday in Colorado Springs, CO. After driving over an hour to get there, spending at least an hour in a long 1/2-mile or so line to get in, and then waiting for them to speak for 1 or more hours in the hot sun, we were really bummed that all we got to hear was a re-hash of their RNC convention speeches. After being excited about the Palin nomination, and her hitting it out of the stands in St. Paul, and McCain’s fantastic speech where he convincingly showed us his human soul and how it’s the core of what he stands for politcally and leadership-wise, we were SO stoked to be able to go see them. And it was SO deflating to not hear MORE. There was nothing that built up and went beyond what was already said at the convention!

Even though we’re both independents, and solidly backing the McCain/Palin ticket, we’re concerned that this post-convention strategy is not going to cash in on the hook both candidates employed at the convention (to see what I mean about “hook”, read An Undecided Voter Listens to McCain’s Speech). Add to that, we keep hearing Obama’s campaign saying how McCain is more of the same, how he voted with Bush 90% of the time. While I myself think that’s a rather simplistic inane response (where the heck is this 90% voting record coming from???? senators are voting all the time but what was Bush voting on??? oh and btw how many times did Obama vote with Bush??? certainly not 100% against…), one must acknowledge how the continuous drone of a coherent focused message such as this (especially with the MSM chiming in) can really be effective. Look at how the MSM keeps telling us how horrible the economy is and has been under Bush, to the point where many people are actually believing it. Granted, things have gotten pretty bad in the past year, but certainly things haven’t been that bad during the past 8 years (especially if one takes into account 9/11 and the implosion of the tech bubble and how our economy had decent recovery from those events).

One gets the sense that McCain and Palin’s handlers are making them both stick to a well-defined script, and that they’re keeping Palin bottled up for whatever reasons… This is stifling McCain’s style when it comes to interacting with people and the press. And it risks killing their post-convention momentum and dampening the excitement folks have over the overall ticket – ESPECIALLY where independents and undecideds are unconcerned. The very crowd who is going to be key in who ultimately wins this election.

Somehow someway, either McCain/Palin and/or their surrogates need to come out and re-iterate very clearly and repeatedly how they will

“…fight to restore the pride and principles of our party. We were elected to change Washington, and we let Washington change us. We lost the trust of the American people when some Republicans gave in to the temptations of corruption. We lost their trust when rather than reform government, both parties made it bigger. We lost their trust when instead of freeing ourselves from a dangerous dependence on foreign oil, both parties and Senator Obama passed another corporate welfare bill for oil companies. We lost their trust, when we valued our power over our principles.”

This is the crux of where McCain departs from Bush; where he represents the Maverick he is. The public needs to marinate in this as much as they are already marinating in Obama’s claims that McCain is more of the same.

Sep 7, 2008 - 11:07 am 150. Dr. Frank Lippenheimer:

“Another gauge of the crisis inside the Obama camp is how his cheerleaders have come absolutely unhinged as the psychological strain of the Left having to appear mainstream is beginning to show.”

Badda bip! What a beautifully argued, beautifully written piece. I have never doubted that the “wheels” would eventually “fall off” this idiot, but it has been an agonizing process. But no more. Sarah Palin opened the window, and the weather is SO fine. They think Obama is a brilliant orator? Yeah, okay, but step aside, Harvard boy. The real deal has entered the room.

Sep 7, 2008 - 11:16 am 151. Ed Wallis:

NOTgod 4:03am,

Please stop LYING.

I quoted YOUR OWN WORDS: “This country could be better if we half-use our brains.”

This stupid sentence is NOT from me. YOU WROTE IT; I cited it.

For you to tell me, “You need to learn how to read and not put words in my mouth” is

A) rude
B) ignorant
C) A LIE

…but at least you come off VERY amusing….

If you cannot even articulate a clear thought fully - even using untruths - then please post elsewhere. Your drivel is not needed here.

Sep 7, 2008 - 11:29 am 152. Herb:

Dave S, my point can be summed up in my last sentence: “This country is big, diverse, and a little lop-sided.” Got it? Good.

Also, there’s this: “I would hate for every thing that governs my life in New Mexico (5th largest state in land mass, 37th in population) be determined by people in Massachusetts who, frankly, generally don’t have proper perspective on these things.”

I’m not from Massachusetts, but if I were, this is what I’d say to that. “I would hate for every thing that governs my life in Massachusetts (44th largest state in land mass, 14th in population) be determined by people in New Mexico who, frankly, generally don’t have proper perspective on these things.”

Do you have principles or just political loyalties? Or just more culture war nonsense to peddle?

Sep 7, 2008 - 11:50 am 153. BC:

To Cletus: you’re an idiot:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/1136991,cst-edt-lenz30.article

To Ed Wallis: you’re bigger idiot:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/05/b64326.html
http://hnn.us/articles/5019.html

Bush has been the ultimate Presidential screw-up, and if you agree 95% with what a screw-up does, that marks you as a screw-up as well. And if you vote for a screw-up, well, then you’re no friend of this country.

Sep 7, 2008 - 12:11 pm 154. Ed Wallis:

BC 12:11pm:

ON THE TOPIC OF “agreed with Bush 90%” hysteria smears, it is only HALF the equation to cite what “errors” GWB has made…and intellectually FULLY dishonest to disregard what he has done right. UNTIL YOU ELABORATE ON ALL…please accept the mantle of FRAUD.

Sep 7, 2008 - 12:38 pm 155. Herb:

Ed Wallis, Please elaborate on what you think GWB has done right. Isn’t it equally intellectually dishonest to focus on what he did right while ignoring his errors?

Sep 7, 2008 - 1:10 pm 156. Ed Wallis:

Herb, It’s your point to prove, buster. Telling half the story and claiming it’s the whole picture is fraud.

For your amusement, try this one for a Zerobama breathtaking prattfall:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/09/07/barack-obamas-1-1-million-botanical-garden-er-100-000-gazebo

Sep 7, 2008 - 1:24 pm 157. Dave S:

Herb: I didn’t say you were from Mass. You used it in your example of state sizes vs population. Therefore, it was logical for me to use it in my rebuttal. Never claimed that it would pertain to you. In hindsight, I guess I should have stuck with Mr. Poole’s point of reference, which is that folks in New York, DC and Hollywood have different points of view than those in flyover country. But I was answering you, not Mr. Poole.

As to my confusion of the point in your post, it was a non-sequiter in the discussion with Joshua. He stated that the coasts dominate the country in population size. I provided facts to point out that he is wrong. I said nothing else. Then you accused me of lacking perspective because this country is diverse. I never said it wasn’t. In fact, one should be able to imply that I understand the diversity by knowing that the population is more evenly distributed than Joshua claims that it is.

Finally, how does stating that I have different perspective from Mass people show my political loyalties? I live in a rural, Rocky Mountain state. I have much different lifestyle than one living in an urban coastal state. Nothing political about that.

Sep 7, 2008 - 1:49 pm 158. Joshua:

Dave S:

From encarta:

In 2000 almost two-thirds of the U.S. population lived in states along the three major coasts — 38 percent along the Atlantic Ocean, 16 percent along the Pacific Ocean, and 12 percent along the Gulf of Mexico.

From the wikipedia article you claim supports your position:

“Flyover country” thus refers to the part of the country that such Americans only view by air. Even Chicago, one of the larger cities in the U.S., is often considered part of the region. However, the term tends to refer to regions such as the Great Plains and the Rocky Mountains which are sparsely populated and not as much of a draw to visitors as the coastal regions.

So “sparsely populated” is actually part of the definition of the word. Meaning that “the America that most Americans live in” and “flyover country” are, basically, mutually exclusive concepts.

And I’m bored now. Thanks for that.

Sep 7, 2008 - 1:56 pm 159. Joshua:

Dave S:

From encarta:

In 2000 almost two-thirds of the U.S. population lived in states along the three major coasts — 38 percent along the Atlantic Ocean, 16 percent along the Pacific Ocean, and 12 percent along the Gulf of Mexico.

From the wikipedia article you claim supports your position:

“Flyover country” thus refers to the part of the country that such Americans only view by air. Even Chicago, one of the larger cities in the U.S., is often considered part of the region. However, the term tends to refer to regions such as the Great Plains and the Rocky Mountains which are sparsely populated and not as much of a draw to visitors as the coastal regions.

So “sparsely populated” is actually part of the definition of the word. Meaning that “the America that most Americans live in” and “flyover country” are, basically, mutually exclusive concepts.

And I’m bored now. Thanks for that.

Sep 7, 2008 - 1:57 pm 160. Rachel Peepers:

William of Orange
and Tom JW.

Today, one of my brothers visited me at school and I went out and shot some hoops with the boys.

Just came in, though, and am sweaty and hot as a football player with full pads at summer practice under a scorching Texas sun.

But before my shower, my eager fingers checked PJM to see what was going on, and I do declare, when I came upon your posts, you boys made me blush like a shy school girl.

Tommie JW, I’m so excited you like the Patriots line. I’m also partial to the quarterback.

And Willie of Orange, you should know I fall for compliments like a blind roofer.

Warmest Regards Boys,
Rachel

Sep 7, 2008 - 2:31 pm 161. Believer:

The concluding line of this terrific article says it all:

“In a pair of authentic mavericks and challenge-the-system reformers, America is starting to see herself and her highest hopes again.”

You bet.

It’s their authenticity - and especially Palin’s considerable record of accomplishments as a gutsy reformer - that leave the sputtering BO panicked.

He’s now exposed - even to those who didn’t want to see - as the fraud we knew him to be. Somebody up there must like us.

Sep 7, 2008 - 2:38 pm 162. Rachel Peepers:

I forgot to add:

HRP Kathy

Your line: It’s True Grit vs. The Manchurian Candidate. It’s a gem.

And Ed Wallis,

I like everything you write so much just let me say that everything you say goes double for me.

Really, most everybody out there is so talented and smart, I’m trying my best just to keep up. And Dave II, “Hi.”

Regards,
Rachel

Sep 7, 2008 - 2:53 pm 163. Herb:

Ed, What’s your point about the garden? You thoroughly confused me, dude. I thought we were talking about you scolding another guy for only focusing on what GWB did wrong while you were only focusing on what GWB did right. Same crime, different side of the coin if you ask me. How about a little balance? Anyway….

Dave S, Thanks for being reasonable in your response. I apologize if I bared my teeth a little too much, but I’m tired of this idea that rural small town America is the “real” America while the densely populated coasts are some kind of haven of alien liberal elitists who prefer to just fly over it.

New York City isn’t part of the “real” America? Boston isn’t either? San Francisco? Washington DC? (Thomas Jefferson never went to Kansas, I’ll tell you that…)

The heartland doesn’t have a monopoly on American identity or American values. Who cares if New Yorkers don’t come to New Mexico? That doesn’t make them less American or less patriotic.

So what? I’ve lived my entire life in Colorado (howdy, neighbor) and I’ve never been to New York City.

Sep 7, 2008 - 4:02 pm 164. Jeff:

Dave II,

It’s so convenient to make the the biggest mistake of the 21st century called, “The Iraq War” and now to try to sell the “stay the course” strategy. Of course we have to finish it through and ensure the country’s stable welfare now. We can’t just make a huge mistake and then leave a country to tend to our mistake. It will breed further resentment from the Islamic world, so we now have no choice but to do right by our wrong. As far as how huge of a mistake this was, we have spent HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS of taxpayer’s money on this Iraq War and still counting. This was our biggest national liability following 9/11. Remember Dave, Afghanistan was necessary so it is not a liability, but Iraq IS. We also diverted our attention away from Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden when we went into Iraq and found no solid evidence of any ties between Saddam and Osama Bin Laden or weapons of mass destructions. Had we solely just fought the Afghanistan War without going into Iraq, Bush might have finished his Presidential legacy by actually bringing Osama Bin Laden to justice. Now, we are all left with the question - WHAT IF?

Ed Wallis,

Can YOU, yourself elaborate further on the great accomplishments of the Bush Administration in these 8 years that has a major impact on the American people? Has our economy moved forward for the better? Has our GNP grown in these years? Have we stopped outsourcing jobs to other countries? Are we absolutely safe from further terrorist plots? Are our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq safe from further attacks? I am both anxious and open to hear your thoughts.

Sep 7, 2008 - 4:07 pm 165. god:

Ed Wallis 9/07 11:29 am:
Boy, are you really confused!!

If you used your half-brain, maybe you could read . . .

If you used your full brain, maybe you could be a decent person . . .

If you used your brain and a half, maybe you could be President . . .

Sep 7, 2008 - 4:07 pm 166. Ed Wallis:

To Peeps and all:

…a nice post-modern “attack” video worth sharing:

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2281

Sep 7, 2008 - 5:28 pm 167. BC:

To Ed Wallis: What “smears”:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_voted_with.html

For example, Bush was 100% dead wrong on Iraq and there was no intel screw-up to blame for it: just the records publicly available at the time showed that Hussein’s support of terrorism began and ended with the Palestinians (Stephen Hayes’s claims otherwise are so dishonest and so much BS that he didn’t even mention the Palestinians in at least one article, “Saddam’s Terror Training Camps,” — despite them being the primary and likely only users) and it was Iran, and *not* Iraq that had ties to al-Qaeda, and Iran and Iraq were mortal enemies at the time. (A typo in the memo, perhaps?)

And Iraq was typical of how Bush has been running things: DHS has been money pit disaster, lack of monitoring and regulation on the highly leveraged (aka “monopoly money”) financial markets, especially in “shadow” banking, led directly to the mortgage mess — who do you think is going to pay for the Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac bailout?; healthcare costs keep skyrocketing and nobody knows even why (believe it or not, there’s yet to be a deep and comprehensive enough study that shows where the money goes); and there’s been squat and diddly for any sort of coherent energy policy, including setting any sort of semi-intelligent MPG goals for US automakers in 2003 when the matter came up — which ended up pretty much eventually taking the US car makers our of contention when the gas prices shot up.

And this beat will very, very likely go on with McCain/Palin (or is that Palin/McCain?)

Sep 7, 2008 - 10:12 pm 168. trangbang68:

Hey Snarley, Get a clue the world is not like all emo. Your angst does not strengthen your candidate’s chances. Outside of your circle jerk of self absorbed little twits; everybody is not a narcissist.

Sep 7, 2008 - 11:07 pm 169. cell phone gps:

I hope Obama make the next leader of America United States. And I believe, he able to the change face of the world.

Sep 8, 2008 - 2:43 am 170. Jeff:

Ed Wallis posted Sep 7, 2008 - 5:28 pm,

I had already seen that one sided video but what you didn’t know or failed to mention was that –
1) George H. W. Bush Sr. declared the first Gulf War on Saddam on 8/2/90 with coalition forces to free Kuwait from Saddam’s occupation, because of his accusations that Kuwait was stealing his oil through slant drilling. That was the right war at that time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

2) After the attacks of 9/11/01, George W. Bush Jr. pushed the ticket with Congress for us to declare war on Saddam on 3/20/03, which is the Iraq War, with the notion that Iraq’s possession and further pursuit of weapons of mass destruction posed an imminent threat to our security and the free world, and a possible tie to Osama Bin Laden. This was the wrong war since there was no evidence of weapons of mass destruction or a tie to Osama Bin Laden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

So you see Ed, that propaganda video showed the Democrats talking positively about the first Gulf War declared by Bush Sr., which was the right war on Saddam but showed the Democrats talking negatively about the current Iraq War declared by Bush Jr., which is the wrong war on Saddam this time around. For people out there, just look at the dates on the video interviews and refer to my links on the Gulf War and the Iraq War above. The fact still remains, both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. were the ones who declared war on Saddam. One war was for the right reasons and one war was for the wrong reasons.

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:02 am 171. god:

Why everyone keeps calling it the Iraq WAR?
It was an invasion.
Bush had a message from “god”.
After realizing it was a mistake, didn’t have the decency to admit it and who cares if thousands die. And who cares about the cost. The sheep of America will pay for it. And we want 4 more years of this?
Even the Democrats had no guts to end it. The people who elected them wanted to end the war, but the electorate has ADD.
I wish the dictatorship of two major parties would end and a true democracy would exist.
I guess I can only dream . . .

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:43 am 172. Ed Wallis:

NO, Jeff. “THAT VIDEO” [http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=2281] shows Clinton and Gore speaking of S. Hussein in the present tense (i.e. in office 1993-2000), NOT historical references of GHW Bush and the Gulf War. Your tin foil hat has you on the “WAYBACK MACHINE” (google it re: Rocky and Bullwinkle…heh) spinning dates.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:27 am 173. schnargley:

Trangbang,
Your bigotry, ignorance and hatred are obvious. How can you reject somebody as pure, kind, wise, and hip as Barack Obama? He is Harvard-educated and black besides! How cool is that? Plus almost the entire academic community and the Mainstream Media are solidly behind him. Those people know better than any of us the way things should be, which is why they are trying so incredibly hard, on the airwaves, campuses and classrooms of Amerika, to get him elected. Why can’t you see that? Why do you hate so much? Why can’t all you mean, ignorant haters just LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!!!!!

You hurt my feelings. I hate you. Now I have to go talk this over with my therapist.

Sep 8, 2008 - 6:43 am 174. Vivienne Avare:

Kudos P.P. you nailed the great Pretender ‘O’ and his agenda! Finally, better late then never, his smokescreen has cleared and most of us do not like what we see and hear! The truth will out! Unfortunately, for the solid, qualified Hillary, the teflon Obama wasn’t vetted in time and he was served the Nominee on a silver platter. The faulty Dem., system and rules favored the weak, misguided Rookie. They should have listened to the Clintons, then not now, Ha! Clinton knows the delusive Obama is not ready but for her Partys sake and future career she must grin and bear it and campaign for the loser ‘O’! Ex Democrat, Go Lady Sara

Sep 8, 2008 - 8:29 am 175. Herb:

Did Ed Wallis just refer to that tinfoil hat nonsense? Dude, 2003 called and they want their straw man back.

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:17 pm 176. Inventor:

Folks:
Be careful what you wish for!!
Is Obama the “False Profit” so stated in the Bible?? Would anyone know?? How would you tell.
Is anyone watching out for this??

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:41 pm 177. Ed Wallis:

Herb, Please feel free to update my lingo (as one should rarely write jargon/slang-free); I was out of the country for a number of years and returned only recently…am still working and thinking in two languages (yikes!). Hence some (what may seem to others) “outdated” references. We may disagree, but I recognize a literate thinker. Thanks.

Sep 8, 2008 - 2:15 pm 178. BaltimoreD:

How is it that Obama can claim to be a great unifier when he can’t even unify his own party?

How can this person, who was so very ineffective as a community organizer and as a state senator claim that he is somehow, magically, going to be effective as President of the United States?

Does he think that job will be easier than the other posts he’s held?

How can this candidate’s platform be packaged as innovative when it is nearly identical to John Kerry’s platform, which the voters already threw out?

Hope - I hope the voters choose wisely.

Change - Time to change the channel.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:18 pm 179. BMoon:

Rachel Peepers,
If you are currently attending an East Coast institution of “higher learning” you have my utmost respect and sympathy. My son is also at an East coast (literally) university and said that the Leftist propaganda machine is appalling there. Every student had to read Obama’s insipid book. Speaker after speaker of pro-Leftist, pro-Obama views are incessantly promoted and paraded on campus. The one conservative professor he knew, a head of a science dept., was driven off campus last semester when they literally ended his depatrtment by merging it. (He went to work for the DOD.) I’ll tell you what I told him yesterday - don’t get discouraged. This election year is a great opportunity because by virtue of the almost total blanket of Leftist banality, a smart, infornmed conservative can really shine. besides that. McCain-Palin wil defintely win, regardless of how it looks in the fogbound bubble of academia.

Sep 8, 2008 - 4:57 pm 180. da dirty monkey:

Mr. Poole gives us a very clear and insightful vision of the tectonic political shift that John McCain has accomplished with his pick of Gov. Sarah Palin. Pure poetry. The polls of the past few days vindicates Mr. Poole’s assessment. The question that remains is whether they can sustain the present momentum until Nov. 4th. If McCain-Palin does well in the debates, or if Obama isn’t able to get any traction, it isn’t that much of a reach to say that this election is over.

PWTM!

Sep 8, 2008 - 5:58 pm 181. Jeff:

Ed Wallis,

That empty video is as empty as your broken sentences. I have debunked your right wing propaganda video and it really hurts, doesn’t it? Being misinformed and uneducated with broken sentences and paragraphs is personally painful. I do feel you and I hope that your grammar will improve within time. When we reach our full potential with education, we then see distinctions between right and wrong, true and false, facts and fiction, etc. As your education grows, your mind will transcend with a higher level of tolerance and understanding. Good luck, Ed.

Sep 8, 2008 - 7:29 pm 182. Believer:

Inventor asks, “Is Obama the False Profit” –

We can agree, I’m sure, the answer is “yes.”

He profits us nothing.

Sep 9, 2008 - 12:07 am 183. Ed Wallis:

Jeff, you have said and proven NOTHING, mister PSEUDO-INDEPENDENT. Your “cheap shots” are pathetic.

I think it is clear to most here that you are clearly mistaking your propaganda-glazed eyes for “knowledge.”

Your post-modern, deconstructionist, alternate thinking - in the reality in which the rest of us live - is called LYING.

Sep 9, 2008 - 4:32 am 184. gldnldy:

Geofizz: You are absolutely right. McCain/Palin has the momentum now, so she shouldn’t blow it by repeating every darn thing she said at the convention, almost word for word. There is much more to Sarah Palin, and that needs to come out during these events. Otherwise, people will think she’s saying scripted lines just like Obama’s been doing the past 2 years.

Sep 9, 2008 - 6:16 am 185. 888:

Herb, about Palin’s education…if I were you, I wouldn’t go there. But…since you asked, okay, let’s go there.

#1 Sarah Palin’s parents were paying for her and her siblings’ college tuition all at the same time, so because of the financial hardship this burden was causing her parents, Palin would quit school temporarily or transfer to less expensive community colleges until she was financially able to attend one on a continuous basis. Her stroke of luck finally appeared when she became the runner-up at a beauty contest, where she was awarded enough money to pay for her university expenses. That’s how she ended up at the Univ of Idaho, which is more affordable than most 4-yr colleges in the US.

Obama, on the other hand, whom his wife is so proud to proclaim was this poor black boy raised by a single mother, got into Columbia and Harvard through affirmative action policies. Interestingly, Libertarian VP candidate, Wayne Root, who graduated from Columbia in ‘83 with a bachelor’s in Political Science never knew of Obama when they were attending Columbia at the same time, nor does he know of any alumni who knew Obama when Obama was attending back then (Obama was also an ‘83 Poli Sci grad). And, of course, as has been widely reported, Obama’s grades, senior year thesis & transcripts from Columbia went missing. Thus, no one knows how he fared as a student there. The other presidential candidates in the past and present (GWB, Kerry, Gore, Clintons, etc.) have released their transcripts or were released by the school or other sources. But, Obama’s grades??? Well, let’s just say, it’s another strange mystery about the guy. It’s funny how every establishment he’s been associated with tries to cover up for him. But, what exactly are they, and he, trying to hide from us???

Anyhow, the bottom line with Palin’s education is that it is a compelling story and one that resonates with true, struggling Americans, while Obama’s easy path to schools that one can only dream about, is one of fortune due to his skin color.

Sep 9, 2008 - 7:26 am 186. Herb:

888, I find this whole notion that one’s education must tell a “compelling story” to, ahem, true (as opposed to fake?) struggling Americans odd. Shouldn’t one’s education prepare you for what you are eventually going to do?

With that said, please explain why a BA in journalism is better preparation for the White House than a BS in political science with a law degree on top.

I won’t even comment on your conspiracy theories about his grades… Dan Rather anyone?

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:51 am 187. 888:

You’re the one who brought up her education.

Actually, most Americans can relate to her story of struggle to get higher education. Here’s someone from a small town in Alaska whose family is not well-off financially, but from sheer luck (the beauty pageant), she gets into the University of Idaho and eventually gets her bachelor’s degree. After a stint as a sportscaster, she gets elected to the city council, serves 2 terms as a mayor, is appointed to Alaska’s most powerful energy commission, then becomes the youngest and 1st woman governor of Alaska. And all this achieved through sheer hard work, intelligence, determination, guts to take on the powerful big oil companies and corrupt politicians from her own party, but very little help financially. Her story resonates well with America.

Going to elite private schools in Hawaii and Indonesia and then getting into Columbia & Harvard through connections, while as an adult pretending to have been raised poor and disadvantaged, is disingenuous and not a story that sit well with regular, humble, non-elitist Americans.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:46 am 188. Richard:

You forgot to mention that under Bush, the goverment has undergone the greatest expansion since D. Roosevelt. And Bush is supposedly a Republican. So remind again who is for small government? I was under the impression that neither party really is. Pull your heads out of your waste evacuation ports people, the “Big Two” are only out for themselves.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:27 pm 189. McRib:

You gotta know it - Obama smokes Kools.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:42 pm 190. Kudzu Fire:

The Marxist Messiah has come on hard times. Maybe that Pontius Pilate Governor Bill Clinton can loan President Hussein a REAL running mate. Hilary Clinton.

Joe Biden CAN plagiarize his way out of this one….

Sep 13, 2008 - 6:42 am 191. Ojamas:

What planet are you on? Here on Earth, McCain’s the one doing all the catching-up and for every step forward, he takes two back. Even when Obama get’s us back on good footing, you guys will still be crediting McCain and the minority (Replublican) party in Congress, but as long was we get there, I guess that’s all that matters.

Sep 26, 2008 - 8:16 am 192. the nutshell paragraph » Blog Archive » Palinmania update:

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