Obama Administration Stonewalls U.S. Civil Rights Commission on Black Panther Case
The Justice Department won't cooperate with an inquiry into why they helped the New Black Panther party avoid the legal consequences of voter intimidation.
Last month, the Obama administration’s decision to dismiss a default judgment against the New Black Panther Party in a clear case of voter intimidation (caught on videotape and circulated on the internet) drew scrutiny from Congress and from the U.S. Civil Rights Commission. That scrutiny has now resulted in one announced investigation by the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) and set the stage for a battle between the administration and the Commission.
In June, the Commission sent a letter of inquiry to the Justice Department demanding an explanation for the dismissal of the case against all but one defendant. In August, the Commission sent a second letter directly to Attorney General Eric Holder reiterating its demand for information on the reasons for the dismissal and advising Holder of its intention to use the Commission’s statutory authority to subpoena witnesses and documents. It also renewed its demand for records of past DOJ investigations so it could make an independent determination as to whether the New Black Panther case’s dismissal was an abrupt change in Justice Department policy, and if so, what the impact of that policy change might be on future acts of voter intimidation. However, the “most transparent administration” in history (it tells us) did not even acknowledge receipt of the letter for weeks.
Last week, the Commission’s General Counsel contacted the Justice Department to inquire if a response would be forthcoming and to advise the Justice Department that on Friday the Commission would meet to decide an issue left open at its meeting last month, namely whether to designate its already expanding investigation into the New Black Panther case as an issue for a year-long study and special report. (By statute the Commission must complete at least one such study and report each year on a matter of federal civil rights enforcement.) Later that day the Justice Department sent a one paragraph letter to the Commission advising that an OPR investigation would be opened and “accordingly” no answer would be forthcoming until OPR concluded its investigation.
A source familiar with the Commission’s deliberations tells Pajamas Media that a number of the commissioners were aghast by the response. An OPR investigation is, of course, no basis for declining to co-operate with the Commission in its statutorily authorized obligation to investigate enforcement of civil rights laws. Moreover, during the Bush administration many controversial issues were the subject of investigation and litigation on multiple “tracks” (e.g., the firing of nine U.S. attorneys triggered both congressional inquiries and an inspector general’s report, investigations of embattled former Voting Rights Section chief Jack Tanner were conducted by both Congress and OPR).
Moreover, the Commission’s concerns, including whether the dismissal marks a deviation from past policy and whether the underlying case did concern a serious civil rights violation, are beyond the ordinary purview of OPR. OPR, in contrast to the Commission, will examine the narrower issue of whether politics or other improper considerations played any role in overriding the decision of the career attorneys who opposed the dismissal.
As one Commissioner described it, the DOJ’s excuse would be analogous to a corporation charged with employment discrimination which instituted an internal investigation — and then claimed that a civil lawsuit couldn’t proceed until the corporation investigated itself.
The analogy is on target here given the fact that OPR is not an autonomous organization but reports up through the Justice Department chain of command to the attorney general. If in fact politics intervened at the behest or with the knowledge of the attorney general or his direct subordinates, then there is all the more reason for an independent entity such as the Commission to examine what occurred.
The commissioners met on Friday to debate the issue. Commissioner Todd Gaziano pointed out that the Commission’s independent examination of the fact witnesses and former defendants in Philadelphia as well as its request for the Department’s records of previous investigations could not possibly conflict with DOJ’s internal investigation of the New Black Panther case. Nevertheless, he acknowledged some potential concerns that might later arise with aspects of the Commission’s investigation and the Justice Department’s OPR investigation, and he offered that the Commission would be sensitive to the OPR interest in rooting out evidence of ethical misconduct by the Justice Department.
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1. Mike Murray:I am not a great fan of special prosecutors. But, if ever legitimate cause for one existed, it does now.
It would be ludicrous for Attorney General Eric Holder to continue to assert that the Department of Justice can properly (i.e., objectively, aggressively) investigate itself.
If Holder and Obama want the public they serve to believe that “justice for all” truly exists — and is colorblind — the solution is clear: step aside and let an impartial investigator take over.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:10 am 2. David Thomson:“If it succeeds we may finally learn why Obama’s Justice Department walked away from a high-profile victory against the New Black Panthers.”
It will succeed. Barack Obama is a lame duck president. He is losing influence by the minute. The power is rapidly shifting over to the Tea Party members and their allies. Red and purple state elected officials fear their wrath. Obama can do next to nothing to stop a genuine investigation. Perhaps over two million people marched yesterday in Washington, DC. The Democrats and their “moderate” Republican allies can no longer pretend to ignore them. They rock!
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:43 am 3. Poor Citizen:I always liked that line Forrest uses in the movie forrest gump “sorry to spoil your black panther party” which was very entertaining. The BPP is still around? wow, makes us older folks feel young again. Ahhhhh…the good old days…
Sep 13, 2009 - 4:27 am 4. Adina Kutnicki, Israel:The simple truth is that for the DOJ to truly investigate the Black Panthers and their voter intimidation tactics (a criminal offense to be sure) means that Holder would be tasked with investigating MANY in the Obama adminstration, including possibly Obama himself who has ties to many of these organiztions.
This is because the Black Panthers (not unlike the muscle driven ACORN and many other assorted street thug groups) are taking their marching orders from the powers behind the DNC. The DNC is so intertwined with radical groups that it is impossible to know where the hydra originates from.
In effect, for the DOJ to do an effective and legally mandated job it would be akin to asking the fox who guards the hen house to rat out the other foxes.
It ain’t gonna happen unless the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.
Sep 13, 2009 - 5:39 am 5. George S.:Major Garret of Fox news should pose the following question at the white house briefing
…”what is the presidents stand on the charges being dropped against the new black panthers VOTER intimidation case.”
with follow up ..where is the transparency? given that the DOJ is not co-operating with the commision ?
Sep 13, 2009 - 5:47 am 6. Pelaut:Like problems with the economy, progressives obfuscate problems with justice by blasting details of who said what when like fairy dust across the landscape. That way everyone gets lost and the whole thing devolves into far off investigations that never come off and it’s all forgotten.
Forget the details. Hammer on the main facts again and again so no one misses them: your government has been taken over by Bolsheviks who are forming phalanxes of S.A. to come after you. The BPP is just one of them.
Sep 13, 2009 - 5:57 am 7. Obama's Law:Assuming that all of these agencies, commissions, departments, groups, investigations and panels still represent the people through the Constitution it appears that Obama has; once again told everyone to stick their objections where the sun doesn’t shine.
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:03 am 8. canuck:The problem will go beyond the DOJ. Undoubtedly, Zero made a comment that he needed this to go away and the minions took it from there, thinking they could deal with this in the Chicago Way and Holder will be up to his sleazy eyeballs in it somewhere. The Ballerina will have his little tiny finger in this somewhere.
Unfortunately, we are unlikely to hear the full story any time soon, certainly not before 2012.
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:17 am 9. tanstaafl:…the matter as one for a year-long study
Just what the world needs, another year long inquiy, where office versus commission in terms of which office examines what, where the interpretation of a tiny sub-paragraph is haggled over…
Whereas, all the time, it’s simply a case of an arrogant Attorney General abusing the power of his office to get his buddies off the hook.
Let the games begin.
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:26 am 10. tanstaafl:Thomas Sowell’a observation applies equally well to Eric Holder.
“Con men understand that their job is not to use facts to convince skeptics but to use words to help the gullible believe what they want to believe.”
Charlatan-in-Chief
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:34 am 11. Blackwater:Looks like black politicians are creating their own good old boys network. Not surprising. Not only has the left not criticized black racists they encourage them yelling “Ya mon!” and “Kill whitey!” while wearing a beany cap, hemp sandals and pumping their noodly fists in the air.
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:46 am 12. George S.:the obanma administration is a criminal enterprise
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:59 am 13. neverquit:Obama/Holder Doctrine:
1) Make sure we conduct investigations against the evil CIA for abusing some Muslims caught on the battlefield trying to kill US Troops.
2) Steamroll all investigations against ACORN, NBPP, or any other group that helped Obama get elected with illegal and/or scare tactics.
Sep 13, 2009 - 7:04 am 14. Cybergeezer:Obamunism creeping in.
Sep 13, 2009 - 7:19 am 15. sallie:#5 DITTO!!….
We need to demand that something be done, now. It’s our country, not Obama’s
turn it over to Beck. At least this is one person on TV that calls a spade a spade…no pun intended.. Beck Revere..
we need to get our voices heard and something done. Obama is an arrogant man and thinks we are plebeians. America speaking up yesterday must have rocked his little brain. However, they tried to act like..”what?”..”there were groups in Washington…and around the nation?? What are you talking about?” He was off acting “campaignie”,pretending Rome was not burning. like the “national day of service”..laughin’ and painting..crap Our nation is under siege from within.
Our state dept revoked the visas of the interim pres of Honduras, and several cab members…until they restore the ousted crap leader. Of course Obama and Hillary were behind it..Alinskyites at their best.. We meddle too much, and the arrogance of our leaders is disgusting.
Sep 13, 2009 - 7:32 am 16. BIG:Eric Holder is a coward for not facing up to the black racism that exists in our urban environments.
Sep 13, 2009 - 7:37 am 17. NCBob:But the MSM will show as much interest in this story as they did Van Jones and any other signs of corruption that come from the left side of the aisle.
When will we realize that black racism, the racism of black people, is far more destructive than the klan ever was. They profit from claims of victimhood and blame all their problems, real and imagined, on whitey.
Sep 13, 2009 - 7:42 am 18. misanthopicus:Everything said, fact is that we are a nation of cowards when it comes to race matters. (Per mr. Eric Holder, US Attorney general).
PS. And also, that four legs are better than two legs.
Sep 13, 2009 - 8:41 am 19. 1GooDDaDDy:I’ve posted these two screen shots I grabbed from “The Obama Forum” before.
Most people don’t take them all that seriously.
I do.
Shabazz was the guy carrying the billy club back on Nov. 3rd.
He “claims” to have inside approval from the WH. (From other posts he’s made at the same site, I have them screen grabbed too).
Who knows.
Anyone of our “Investigating Journalist” types out there have the guts to check it out.
Could be a “Pulitzer” in it for you.
Here ➥ http://www.screencast.com/users/GooDDaDDy/folders/Jing/media/2a212054-b4cf-4e13-845c-b7c7659b1df7
And here ➥ http://www.screencast.com/users/GooDDaDDy/folders/Jing/media/83be1c27-b4ce-4893-bcd8-403ca3299f49#
Not Over.
Sep 13, 2009 - 9:04 am 20. Brian Richard Allen:#2, David Thomson said that Herr 0zero is a lame duck pretender and is losing influence by the minute. The power has already shifted over to the Tea Party’s allies. Red and purple state elected officials fear their wrath and 0zero can do next to nothing to stop a genuine investigation. Perhaps over two million people marched yesterday in Washington and the “Democrats” and their RINO mates may no longer pretend to ignore them.
And I so much enjoyed it when Mr Thomson said it, I said it again!
Sep 13, 2009 - 9:19 am 21. DoctorT:Another sign that this administration believes in circumventing the law when it is convenient. If there is nothing to hide then there should be no resistance. I plead with the government to come back to the societal values that make us a great society and a great country.
Sep 13, 2009 - 10:46 am 22. Marla Simmons:Maybe this case is not being pursued because it is utterly ridiculous? The NBPP were at a polling place in a poor black neighborhood in Philly. Housing projects are part of this voting district, and there are virtually no whites in the area except the guys at the local homeless shelter. The whole story of this supposed “intimidation” makes no sense if you know the place it occurred.
Sep 13, 2009 - 11:28 am 23. Silence Do Good:So #22, you wouldn’t mind, of course, KKK members standing at polling place in white neighborhoods?
Sep 13, 2009 - 11:43 am 24. 1GooDDaDDy:22. Marla Simmons:
So, you never did look at the screen cap I posted in #19?
I suppose, that those words that Shabazz wrote is just him using “tough talk” in an attempt to impress his next door neighbors daughter then.
Dream on lady.
Not Over.
Sep 13, 2009 - 12:07 pm 25. Gracie:I would like to see Beck get hold of the Black Panther issue.. totally out of line for it to be swept under the proverbial rug.
No body else seems care about what is going on .surely not the MSM..
OMG!! The look on Pelosi’s face when Joe Wilson called Obama a liar, was disgustingly funny
GO JOE WILSON!!! the man needs to be supported not reprimanded!!
YEA BECK AND WILSON!!!
Sep 13, 2009 - 12:54 pm 26. Marla Simmons:1GooDDaDDy:
I saw your screencaps. Methinks you’re being played. Someone who thinks he knows how blacks talk wrote those posts.
Silence Do Good, what would be the point of KKK members standing at a white polling place?
Sep 13, 2009 - 1:23 pm 27. Nick Reynolds:It’s all about the imposition of a “New Narrative” on the people of this country.
Sep 13, 2009 - 1:38 pm 28. 1GooDDaDDy:26. Marla Simmons:
Head too thick to penetrate, “methinks” lady.
Once a droid…always a droid.
Not Over.
Sep 13, 2009 - 1:42 pm 29. rabidfox:So, Marla, what’s the point of BPP standing at a black polling place? Regardless of the motive, it’s not cool to stand around polling places holding what can be a lethal weapon issuing threats to voters. Investigate and prosecute before we turn into a third world republic-in-name-only.
Sep 13, 2009 - 1:51 pm 30. Steve:“Someone who thinks he knows how blacks talk wrote those posts.”
I can tell already that Martha speaks jive.
Sep 13, 2009 - 1:51 pm 31. Steve:“a white polling place”
There are no white or black polling places in America, Martha. We defeated you Democrats on this very issue fifty years ago. Now you’re trying to bring back the old days.
Sep 13, 2009 - 1:54 pm 32. jdkchem:26. – “what would be the point of KKK members standing at a white polling place?”
Probably the same as nbpp members standing at a “polling place in a poor black neighborhood in Philly”.
Are you intentionally being obtuse? Make whatever excuses you want but the fact is that you voted for failure.
Sep 13, 2009 - 1:58 pm 33. willis:It is easy to understand. The New Black Panther Party, like the Old Black Panther Party, is a Marxist organization. As Marxists they are friends of the Administration. This is the same reason we are trying to help Hugo Chavez take over the Honduran government.
Sep 13, 2009 - 2:08 pm 34. edh:From Mass Lawyer’s Weekly:
“[Judge] Collings… asked both the prosecutor and [Andrew] Sullivan’s attorney, Robert Delahunt Jr. (cousin of U. S. Rep. William D. Delahunt), for more information about why paying the $125 would have “any additional adverse effect.”
When no attorney could fully answer the question beyond citing advice from immigration lawyers, Collings requested that Delahunt submit a brief on the issue. But before Delahunt could reply, Assistant U. S. Attorney James F. Lang jumped in and said that [Judge] Collings had no power to inquire why the U.S. Attorney had decided to have the charge dismissed.”
http://blogs.masslawyersweekly.com/news/2009/09/10/judge-angered-by-special-treatment-for-andrew-sullivan/
Sep 13, 2009 - 2:09 pm 35. Common Sense:Marla Simmons:
“Silence Do Good, what would be the point of KKK members standing at a white polling place?
Sep 13, 2009 – 1:23 pm
Marla, So what is the point of Black Panthers standing guard outside a “black” polling place? Because that is what actually happened. It is absolutely inexcusable that it was allowed to happen, and sad that you feel compelled to defend third world-style intimidation at the polls.
If this is the new standard, I do not want to hear whining when someone shows up to “guard” your polling place.
Sep 13, 2009 - 2:25 pm 36. Do the Math:Move along, nothing to see here.
This administration is about as transparent as a brick…and about as smart as a box of rocks.
Welcome to Chicago-style race-based politics now operating out of the DOJ.
The right/independents gets called racist for questioning the one, but when you have an organization, the Black Panthers, committing clearly intimidating acts, there is no DOJ interest in advancing an investigation.
We are all owed an explanation.
Sep 13, 2009 - 2:37 pm 37. Mikey NTH:Invoke executive privilege in a voter rights intimidation investigation? That works in foreign policy/intelligence/military operations. Not this.
Dude…
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:04 pm 38. SPIKE:President O’dipshit is the one who will be responsible for the up and coming race war.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:10 pm 39. J-Bone:Already brewing, it will come to a head during the 2010 elections as O’dipshit and is asshat democraps know they are going to get their asses kicked will try and steal the election via fraud and their usual corruption.
To Martha, @22 and 26: You are intentionally ignoring what happened here.
This was the footage from a brave Penn student who went to see what was going on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4MTQVMatW0&feature=related
And, here was Rick Leventhal’s interview immediately afterwards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wwAsjErHeU
There is no justification for anyone to wield a weapon in front of a polling place. And it absolutely stinks that DOJ did nothing about this.
I would feel the same way if Neo-Nazis stood in front of a polling place anywhere, intimidating others from entering.
I really don’t understand how you can so easily minimize what happened here.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:18 pm 40. J-Bone:Make that Marla, sorry.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:19 pm 41. mshatto:It isn’t the scandal, it’s the coverup.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:27 pm 42. Concerned4all:i look forward to the day some punk tries to intimidate me from my right to vote. I’d shove his head up his very own punk ass. It is sad that a lot of people worked very hard to get the races to make the strides that we have made (TOGETHER). Now President Punkbama has trashed it and reawakened racists feelings, for his own political gain. I still will try to teach my daughter that it is nothing but pigmentation of skin, and that below the surface we are all human and want what is best for our children.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:34 pm 43. Jack Okie:tanstaafl:
One year from today we will be in the thick of the 2010 election season. Having the Civil Rights Commission investigation going on for a year is a plus. There are already a large number of Obama goofs that will make excellent attack ads. If we are going to win long term, we’ve got to educate the inattentive and uncommitted voters that our philosophy is sound and we know what we’re talking about. If Obama invokes executive privilege against the Civil Rights Commission so much the better. The death of 1000 (political) cuts works – look what happened to Bush.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:34 pm 44. Dave Surls:‘It all began when Mr. [Jerry] Jackson stood outside a Philadelphia polling area with Malik Zulu Shabazz and another New Black Panther member during the 2008 presidential election. They later faced charges for intimidating voters on November 4th, 2008. Appointed to be a poll watcher in 2008 for the Democratic Party and the Obama campaign, Mr. Jackson is also an elected member of Philadelphia’s 14th Ward Democratic Committee.’–Washington Times
And…
‘The New Black Panther Party provoked a melee outside of Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney’s campaign headquarters after she had lost a Democratic primary to her opponent, Hank Johnson. The NBPP’s Chief of Staff, Hashim Nzinga, had been acting as security detail for McKinney when, in a volatile confrontation, he physically attacked reporters, derogatorily calling them “Jews”…’–wiki
I’d say it’s pretty obvious why Obama’s DOJ doesn’t want to cooperate. They’re not likely to go after their own bully boys, unless they’re forced to do so.
Simple as that.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:51 pm 45. Delia:This will set precedent. THAT is why it is dangerous and WRONG to discount this.
THAT, Marla, is what this is ‘all’ about.
The thuggery starts its upshoots in the black community and people can say it’s ‘innocuous’… and then it bleeds into the rest of the USA and it ain’t so friggin’ ‘innocuous’.
Sep 13, 2009 - 3:59 pm 46. Silence Do Good:Silence Do Good, what would be the point of KKK members standing at a white polling place?
The point # 22 is that they (KKK) would be there to intimidate anyone they do not want to see voting. In much the same way, the NBPP was at the polling station to intimidate anyone they don’t want to see voting.
It’s really rather basic. Allowing anyone to loiter, intimidate or otherwise curtail the free exercise of voting in a Federal Republic is repugnant, offensive and a cancer on American society….black, white, yellow or any other color.
Sep 13, 2009 - 4:08 pm 47. Hrothgar:Wrote Rep Frank Wolf, my Congressman, who has been pursuing this from the House. He had a detailed list of excellent questions about this case he had forwarded to DoJ/Holder, citing a Congressional exemption to limits on FOIA requests. Results to date NADA!
Chicago politics in Chicago is bad enough, but Chicago politics in Washington DC is downright dangerous for this country!
Sep 13, 2009 - 5:20 pm 48. drjohn:This is simply one more of those “If Bush had done this…”
We no longer have a responsible network media. Not by a long shot.
Sep 13, 2009 - 5:45 pm 49. Delia:Chicago Politics is just more ‘obvious’.
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:01 pm 50. Delia:I’m not afraid to be branded a racist by the d0h crew:
Here I am:
http://seraphima.freehostia.com/Angel-Face.jpg
BFD. I’m not afraid of you asshats.
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:02 pm 51. tanstaafl:Jack (#43), I’m a little tired of 100 paper cuts following another 100 paper cuts.
This is all pretty transparent, altho’ the tall guy w/o the billy club was some kind of official poll watcher, people (any people, not just people wearing NBPP garb and looking intimidating) standing outside a polling place is how Hamas does things when Palestinians go to vote in the Gaza strip.
The only difference is that the Hamas guys are carrying AK-47’s, which the Panther guys would carry (have no doubt) if they thought there was any way in hell they could get away with it.
Personally, I’m not really up for, yet another, charade of this nature. Like those Guantanamo guys on whose behalf the ACLU and friends have continuously agitated, these types of charades go on forever into legalistic neverneverland, until some people give up out of sheer exhaustion.
Eric Holder and his justice dept. are preparing the reams of exhausting paperwork as we speak, rest assured.
Poor Philly neighborhood or not poor Philly neighborhood (and I don’t know) there is absolutely no excuse for this kind of stuff.
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:18 pm 52. Eric W:This is an egregious example of politicians coming to the aid of a group of racist extremists. I expect Charles Johnson to be all over this story in 3…2…
Sep 13, 2009 - 6:58 pm 53. Vasio:Okay, this is the craziest thing I have ever read in my life, besides the things about “BIRTHERS”… Because a group that is predominantly black encouraged people of their same race to get out and vote, that is a crime?
There was no black panther that intemidated a caucasian american and said vote for obama or you will be sorry. This is completely ridiculous and its a waste of conversation.
People lie, books lie, but numbers don’t lie. It would take much more for obama to win to become president. So this would mean that you are referring to black panthers intemidating whites, because obama didn’t win because of the black vote. Besides every black person in america didn’t vote for him.
The continuing of looking and digging to continue to find something discrediting or continuing to talk about this guy is becoming boring.
Let’s think for a minute, what would be the difference if Obama lost and it was McCain and Palin.. what would be so good about that??
Let’s just face it people are people and need to be judged on an individual basis not as a race.
If you can understand a society and I understand them all!!! Blacks are not political people, many blacks don’t vote. The black vote has increased tremendously in the past 8 years and this has nothing to do with race.
It has everything to do with; why are my loved ones fighting in a far off land and I don’t know what the fight is even about? That’s what it boils down to.
So while you blogged and you continue to trump up these things that make completely no sense. You think the Black Panthers had to intemidate blacks to vote for Obama, than you are crazy. That’s like KKK intemidating whites to vote for McCain.
This looks like a big race issue and it will continue to be that way… Why not let it go and see what happens.
Because the rewards are not here on earth, they are in heaven and the true judgement comes from God and nobody get to God except through the son Jesus Christ. So while you fumble around and think you have control, you don’t.. It’s God. Though your behaviors is what you do have control over.
So if you believe this that the black panthers intemidated people to vote… Tell me who? and if these people are black, the black panthers would not have to intemidate, period.
Sep 14, 2009 - 11:32 am 54. Steve Sampson:This is the initial phase of implementing a Totalitarian Regime, Obama does not plan on relinquishing his power nor does he intend being hindered by details like the Constitution or the law. Once he has successfully stiff armed this investigation it will be much easier in the future to deflect challenges to his tyranny. He will become in effect a President above the law and immune to the law, free to wield power like any other banana Republic Colonel as he implements his Marxist Programs.
He is already establishing a government of Czars around him that is immune to Congressional Oversight and free of any other restraints except to the Authoritarian Wishes of Colonel Obama. The rest of our Constitutional Government’s power becomes diminished with each new Czar.
FDR initiated the concept of Czars, except he called them dictators and they were instituted in a war where we were fighting for our very survival. The situation is considerably different with a Marxist in the White House who is only interested in adulterating traditional American Government with his own interpretation of the Constitution applied thru a Marxist looking glass. Our conversion is already under way, by obstructing this investigation, he is thumbing his nose at the people, the government, and the Constitution.
If we allow him an Affirmative Action Pass on this one, we can expect flagrant violations to come at a much faster rate in the future and once his provisional government of Czars are installed, he will need the rest of government and their impediments to his Marxist Visions less and less.
What is his maximum number Czars, is it one hundred or is it one thousand, how many Czars does he need to complete his Politburo? Who is going to stop him? The only reason this didn’t happen in the past is that previous presidents, no matter how great their faults, they were Americans first who believed in America. Our system has holes in it, that is obvious; otherwise, an America hating despot could not get elected and so quickly dismantle a country that has stood firm for over two hundred years. We are under attack, but the attack is not from overseas, it is headquartered in Washington it is in our Congress and in the White House.
Sep 14, 2009 - 2:13 pm 55. deguello:#54 STEVE SAMPSON .The correct term is commisar,not czar. The Czars, panthers,union thugs, and acorn hoods,constitute the brown shirts of the democrat permanently.It’s easy to envision Rahm Emmanuel telling the bluedogs not to worry about voter retaliation, because he will guarantee that no republican gets to vote.Obama is creating the infrastructure of totalitarianisnm in the USA.We, in the conservative movement, need to create the corresponding infrastucture of resistance,including armed militias to protect the votes of our people.
Sep 14, 2009 - 6:27 pm 56. Dave Surls:“Okay, this is the craziest thing I have ever read in my life…”
Yeah, it’s not every day that you read a story that says the DOJ had won a default summary judgement against a racist hate group, and then decides to not pursue the case after it has already been won.
Pretty wacky stuff.
Sep 14, 2009 - 10:05 pm 57. Steve Sampson:Yes #55 deguello, I am aware of the conflict of phrases. FDR called them dictators, a more apt name, but offensive to the average American. I will use the commisar term in the future.
I am aware of the possibility of Obama’ Political Army establishing Martial Law, while our military is off fighting wars without rudders or compasses.
Trust me, there are many who have been trained and are more than ready for conflict, should the need arise.
I believe Obama has no intention of relinquishing his power, whether there are elections are not, he plans to have a Hugo Chavez Presidency. I think they underestimate the Patriot Spirit and Resolve.
I also believe it is his intention to keep our armed forces involved on the other side of the world indefinitely with no strategic planning, to help facilitate his Totalitarian control in a safer manner. Winning those wars is the least of his concerns.
Long Live The Republic. Semper Fi
Sep 15, 2009 - 12:29 am 58. caestal:“Because a group that is predominantly black encouraged people of their same race to get out and vote, that is a crime?”
Sep 15, 2009 - 3:42 am 59. Ben Stanwright:No, of course not; but discouraging others from using the polling place or voting the “wrong way” clearly is.
That was kind of weak, friend.
I agree that the conduct of the DOJ is outrageous, but, ugh, actually, under virtually all states’ corporate law, a corporation whose directors and officers are accused of wrongdoing is allowed to delay a lawsuit while it engages in an internal investigation through a special committee. In many states, e.g. New York, the determination of that internal investigation is conclusive, unless a shareholder can show some flaw in the process.
Sep 15, 2009 - 5:58 am 60. Vasio:Okay # 58. caestal:
“Because a group that is predominantly black encouraged people of their same race to get out and vote, that is a crime?”
No, of course not; but discouraging others from using the polling place or voting the “wrong way” clearly is.
That was kind of weak, friend.
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Above is what you stated. How did they discourage other people from using the polling place? Just because they were their. Nobody can see what your ballot says or monitor. So this is weak, just like America.. Weak! You spend all day and time excercising prejudices.
This goes for all americans.. Black people can be racist. Black people are prejudice against other black people, so what! White people are racist. White people are prejudice against other white people.
Though each person is a individual and it is still hard to believe that these “Black Panthers” Where intimidating…
So what? where there some caucasion people voting in a polling center near Cabrini Green in Chicago? That area is predominately black, and besides the black panthers their are other elements. So this talk is stupid. But spend your life looking at race and ethnicity.
You had no control of your race or ethnicity, but spend your life judging. God is the keeper of time and he sees and knows all.
Sep 15, 2009 - 11:33 am 61. J-Bone:@60 — How did they discourage others? By brandishing a weapon in front of the polling place. How can this possibly be deemed acceptable behavior? The issue is the behavior, not the race.
Sep 15, 2009 - 3:16 pm 62. Judy, NYC:there is nothing to explain. it’s illegal. the police should have been called immediately and these vermin with their weapons in front of a polling place thrown into a police car and charged. all the bullcrap in the world does not change the fact of this matter. i would agree with the poster who wouldn’t be intimidated by these morons and i fear for anyone, any color who would try and intimidate me.
Sep 15, 2009 - 6:14 pm 63. Vasio:So I saw men at town hall meetings brandishing automatic weapons, meaning guns.. How is that accpetable??? It is the race. And these areas where predominately black.. So it was no reason for uproar..! Did you go into Compton and vote?
Sep 16, 2009 - 12:30 pm 64. Cybergeezer:I know this is late, but, I had to enter this since it’s on point;
Sep 19, 2009 - 6:13 amCheck out this video on Obama’s campaign;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DQAOZlNrO8