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		<title>By: hourglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>hourglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a bunch of uninformed, misinformed, propagandized wackos posting here. talking head multimillionaires have convinced you they are on your side. the rich have had their way with your jobs, your kids and your futures with that joke of a 401k (if you&#039;ve even got one) for, oh, 30-odd years now. &quot;over 50% of americans are in the stock market&quot; the talking heads blurt - yeah, well thats because our pension funds from the jobs we once had were cut and the 401k was the congressional carrot on the string. how&#039;s that doing for ya? saps and suckers. you scream about investment in our commons yet grab your ankles when the bankers get your grandkids future. repugs and dems are all the same. no legislation gets passed without a corporate and lobbyist OK. the poor and people of color are not the ones fleecing you and your country and getting rich. heard rush screaming &quot;this is retribution, folks, that&#039;s what &#039;they&#039; are up to&quot; i say your damn right you 400 million dollar pig of a benedict arnold. yeah, beck, hannity, o&#039;reily, fox, nbc, cbs, abc are all on your side, suckers - check out who are on the boards of directors of the above and pentagon contractors - i dare you to learn to read and think for yourselves. i&#039;m ashamed to be your neighbor and countryman. turn off your teevee it lies to you - librul media - ha - get out of your pajamas and momma&#039;s basement and join the revolution you sissy-la-las.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a bunch of uninformed, misinformed, propagandized wackos posting here. talking head multimillionaires have convinced you they are on your side. the rich have had their way with your jobs, your kids and your futures with that joke of a 401k (if you&#8217;ve even got one) for, oh, 30-odd years now. &#8220;over 50% of americans are in the stock market&#8221; the talking heads blurt &#8211; yeah, well thats because our pension funds from the jobs we once had were cut and the 401k was the congressional carrot on the string. how&#8217;s that doing for ya? saps and suckers. you scream about investment in our commons yet grab your ankles when the bankers get your grandkids future. repugs and dems are all the same. no legislation gets passed without a corporate and lobbyist OK. the poor and people of color are not the ones fleecing you and your country and getting rich. heard rush screaming &#8220;this is retribution, folks, that&#8217;s what &#8216;they&#8217; are up to&#8221; i say your damn right you 400 million dollar pig of a benedict arnold. yeah, beck, hannity, o&#8217;reily, fox, nbc, cbs, abc are all on your side, suckers &#8211; check out who are on the boards of directors of the above and pentagon contractors &#8211; i dare you to learn to read and think for yourselves. i&#8217;m ashamed to be your neighbor and countryman. turn off your teevee it lies to you &#8211; librul media &#8211; ha &#8211; get out of your pajamas and momma&#8217;s basement and join the revolution you sissy-la-las.</p>
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		<title>By: JP49</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Obama is trying to change the pledge of allegiance, see:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/01/i-pledge-allegiance-to-obama-of-the-divided-states-of-america.html

I knew this was going to happen.  Can the people who verified he was a natural born citizen be tried for treason now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Obama is trying to change the pledge of allegiance, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/01/i-pledge-allegiance-to-obama-of-the-divided-states-of-america.html" rel="nofollow">http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/01/i-pledge-allegiance-to-obama-of-the-divided-states-of-america.html</a></p>
<p>I knew this was going to happen.  Can the people who verified he was a natural born citizen be tried for treason now?</p>
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		<title>By: 888</title>
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		<dc:creator>888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone knows, including his own liberal establishment, that Obama is only about self and  votes for his party in 2012.  He doesn&#039;t care about democracy and making lives better for those poor, terrorized, disenfranchised, disadvantaged people outside of the 50 (57?) states.  Remember,  he didn&#039;t even care about his own people in Chicago&#039;s South Side.  

And now, he&#039;ll do anything for the conservative and evangelical vote -- look, he&#039;s even putting his hand over his heart during the playing of the National Anthem and wearing the US flag on his lapel.  But we all know the truth: he&#039;s just doing that to fool y&#039;all into thinking he&#039;s changed.  Unfortunately, Obama&#039;s spots are huge and will always come out to show his true colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows, including his own liberal establishment, that Obama is only about self and  votes for his party in 2012.  He doesn&#8217;t care about democracy and making lives better for those poor, terrorized, disenfranchised, disadvantaged people outside of the 50 (57?) states.  Remember,  he didn&#8217;t even care about his own people in Chicago&#8217;s South Side.  </p>
<p>And now, he&#8217;ll do anything for the conservative and evangelical vote &#8212; look, he&#8217;s even putting his hand over his heart during the playing of the National Anthem and wearing the US flag on his lapel.  But we all know the truth: he&#8217;s just doing that to fool y&#8217;all into thinking he&#8217;s changed.  Unfortunately, Obama&#8217;s spots are huge and will always come out to show his true colors.</p>
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		<title>By: ReConUSMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReConUSMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBAMA : when it comes to Middle East matters &quot;all too often the United States starts by {Dictating}


Obama gives first TV interview to Arabic network


{{{{{{{{WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama gave his first formal television interview as president to an Arabic cable TV network, telling Al-Arabiya that when it comes to Middle East matters &quot;all 

too often the United States starts by dictating.&quot;}}}}}}}}}}}}

And we all though Jimmy Carter screwed the Middle East up .
Obama just out did Jimmy Carter winning by a Mile . 


   Mr President ..Pssssssssstttt We are the only Supper Power in the  World .
                                       
This man needs help . Word matter : Now lets see the Media spin that  insane statement in  a positive way with that was a very smart statement . 
But it tells us what Obama really  thinks about America without any question .... 
He Obviously sees and deeply Believes America as do College students and the left 
is are  Imperialist , Bullies who need to be put in our place and he scolded us thought a Middle east net work that hates America .




One can only imagine what  that totally &quot;Moronic Statement &quot; and the Cheering that brought The &quot;Media &quot; in the Middle East ,UN ,  Europe , America ,Anti American left ,Code Pink , Russia , Cuba , Hugo Chevez , N Korea , China ,  Iran , College Class rooms ,The Egyptian Brother Hood , Hamas&#039; , Hesbollah  , Fatah 
Al Quada , Bin Laden and even Saddam from his grave . 

And of course the great despair it will bring America in dealing with other Nations that want American and Israeli Blood on the streets .
In basic # 101 negotiations training . You don&#039;t start with ..We are Wrong ( Dictating &quot;meaning Bully &quot; in Liberal terms . And what can we do you can help us &quot;change &quot;. We are all ears ? 
One suspects those few words will haunt Obama but sadly America as well  for years to come . 
Ronald Reagan and our Founding Fathers must be sad in their own graves of  honor .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBAMA : when it comes to Middle East matters &#8220;all too often the United States starts by {Dictating}</p>
<p>Obama gives first TV interview to Arabic network</p>
<p>{{{{{{{{WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama gave his first formal television interview as president to an Arabic cable TV network, telling Al-Arabiya that when it comes to Middle East matters &#8220;all </p>
<p>too often the United States starts by dictating.&#8221;}}}}}}}}}}}}</p>
<p>And we all though Jimmy Carter screwed the Middle East up .<br />
Obama just out did Jimmy Carter winning by a Mile . </p>
<p>   Mr President ..Pssssssssstttt We are the only Supper Power in the  World .</p>
<p>This man needs help . Word matter : Now lets see the Media spin that  insane statement in  a positive way with that was a very smart statement .<br />
But it tells us what Obama really  thinks about America without any question &#8230;.<br />
He Obviously sees and deeply Believes America as do College students and the left<br />
is are  Imperialist , Bullies who need to be put in our place and he scolded us thought a Middle east net work that hates America .</p>
<p>One can only imagine what  that totally &#8220;Moronic Statement &#8221; and the Cheering that brought The &#8220;Media &#8221; in the Middle East ,UN ,  Europe , America ,Anti American left ,Code Pink , Russia , Cuba , Hugo Chevez , N Korea , China ,  Iran , College Class rooms ,The Egyptian Brother Hood , Hamas&#8217; , Hesbollah  , Fatah<br />
Al Quada , Bin Laden and even Saddam from his grave . </p>
<p>And of course the great despair it will bring America in dealing with other Nations that want American and Israeli Blood on the streets .<br />
In basic # 101 negotiations training . You don&#8217;t start with ..We are Wrong ( Dictating &#8220;meaning Bully &#8221; in Liberal terms . And what can we do you can help us &#8220;change &#8220;. We are all ears ?<br />
One suspects those few words will haunt Obama but sadly America as well  for years to come .<br />
Ronald Reagan and our Founding Fathers must be sad in their own graves of  honor .</p>
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		<title>By: SGT Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGT Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repack and gizmo,

As a recently retired E-7, having served 24 years in the All Volunteer Army, I am disgusted with your cheap attempt to use the &quot;chicken hawk&quot; arguement in order to try and shut people up. This arguement is as stupid as the one where being a fighter pilot is the same as dodging the draft.

Many of our Nations founders never served in the Continental Army, either, but their ideas about individual liberty, fighting for freedom are just as right today as they were back then. Were they &quot;chickenhawks&quot; too? 

I beleive in helping others to be free and I&#039;ve put my butt on the line for it. I appreciate that others who don&#039;t serve recognise the importance of freedom to the human spirit and support me, unlike you who have served but don&#039;t care why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repack and gizmo,</p>
<p>As a recently retired E-7, having served 24 years in the All Volunteer Army, I am disgusted with your cheap attempt to use the &#8220;chicken hawk&#8221; arguement in order to try and shut people up. This arguement is as stupid as the one where being a fighter pilot is the same as dodging the draft.</p>
<p>Many of our Nations founders never served in the Continental Army, either, but their ideas about individual liberty, fighting for freedom are just as right today as they were back then. Were they &#8220;chickenhawks&#8221; too? </p>
<p>I beleive in helping others to be free and I&#8217;ve put my butt on the line for it. I appreciate that others who don&#8217;t serve recognise the importance of freedom to the human spirit and support me, unlike you who have served but don&#8217;t care why.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Attitude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Attitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>62. bit:

Why is it the US&#039;s responsibility to take care of Europe?  All of the money and lives that the US has lost defending Europe goes without a thanks....nothing but being asked to do more.  Let your military defend you since your nation is so much better than ours!  

You must have the wrong information on conservatives in the United States, we are not the same as conservatives in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62. bit:</p>
<p>Why is it the US&#8217;s responsibility to take care of Europe?  All of the money and lives that the US has lost defending Europe goes without a thanks&#8230;.nothing but being asked to do more.  Let your military defend you since your nation is so much better than ours!  </p>
<p>You must have the wrong information on conservatives in the United States, we are not the same as conservatives in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Attitude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Attitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cedarford---Do you recommend isolationism?  Where we take care of our people and our land and to heck with the rest of them.  Let the EU be overran by Islamic terrorist, let Israel be innihilated, let the people of other nations be murdered by their dictators while the dictators live a life of luxury (Saddam)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cedarford&#8212;Do you recommend isolationism?  Where we take care of our people and our land and to heck with the rest of them.  Let the EU be overran by Islamic terrorist, let Israel be innihilated, let the people of other nations be murdered by their dictators while the dictators live a life of luxury (Saddam)?</p>
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		<title>By: Horace Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horace Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>e
my #67 applies to the whole post to begin with, it was an attempt at humor but I guess it went over your little head.</description>
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my #67 applies to the whole post to begin with, it was an attempt at humor but I guess it went over your little head.</p>
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		<title>By: Northstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Northstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#72  I didn&#039;t mean to say that Islam is the only drawback to democracy, only that many of the failures are religion based.  Northeast Africa has most of its problems caused by Islamic culture (Sudan, Somalia, Etheopia, etc), however, most of the other &quot;black&quot; nations have similar cultural roadblocks to succesful democracy placed by old tribal religions.
Pakistan and Indonesisa are hanging on by a thread only because of a few strong leaders that so far have held it together.  Trukey is a exception, based largely on it&#039;s success in keeping &quot;church and state&quot; seperate, time will tell.
Russia has a different situation.  Although they have tried for almost a hundred years to deny any religion, there is still a strong undercurrent of several religions that are at odds with each other and and like Venezuela, a few politically power hungry individuals have taken every advantage of it that they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#72  I didn&#8217;t mean to say that Islam is the only drawback to democracy, only that many of the failures are religion based.  Northeast Africa has most of its problems caused by Islamic culture (Sudan, Somalia, Etheopia, etc), however, most of the other &#8220;black&#8221; nations have similar cultural roadblocks to succesful democracy placed by old tribal religions.<br />
Pakistan and Indonesisa are hanging on by a thread only because of a few strong leaders that so far have held it together.  Trukey is a exception, based largely on it&#8217;s success in keeping &#8220;church and state&#8221; seperate, time will tell.<br />
Russia has a different situation.  Although they have tried for almost a hundred years to deny any religion, there is still a strong undercurrent of several religions that are at odds with each other and and like Venezuela, a few politically power hungry individuals have taken every advantage of it that they can.</p>
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		<title>By: cedarford</title>
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		<dc:creator>cedarford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Northstar:
 Notice where democracy has “stuck” and where it has not. The common thread is religion. The countries that have stuck with it are, for the most part, either Judao-Christian or Hindu. The mid-east and asian “stans” are Islamic. The greartest drawback of accepting anything new is the human weakness called “religion”. Case in point, compare the cooperation of the international scientific community, which places a lot less emphesis on religion, to the human rights beliefs in the same countries.&lt;/i&gt;

Not entirely true. Most black Christian nations that started out democratic at independence, many with the same legal structures and parallel constitutions to France&#039;s, the UKs, even the US Constitution - soon failed or are in the process of reaching &quot;failed&quot;.

And many white nations in the &quot;judeo-christian&quot; tradition, headed by Russia, but including Venezuela, Moldava, Nicaragua recently have backslid after finding democracy failed to work well..And, of course, the historical list of white nations in which democracy &quot;blew it&quot; and was replaced by authoritarian or communist rule is long.

Nor are all nations outside &quot;judeo-christian&quot; or &quot;hindu&quot; traditions excluded from being stable democracies. Japan - and more recently Singapore, Bangladesh, S Korea, Philippines, even Indonesia are presently democracies.   

We can also add that Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey are quasi-democracies - where democracy is well-established as desired by most the people, and practiced...But fragile, and tempered by Mullahs in the case of Iran or the military in the case of the other two usurping the will of the people on key points.

But,  if we are honest, we would admit that the will of the People is also frequently usurped in Europe by unaccountable EU ministers, in Israel by judges and lawyers (substituting as secular Mullahs of the Jews).

And in the USA, our democracy is frequently usurped by courts and by an unaccountable Jewish-Gentile Ruling Elite determined to shove Free Trade, Open Borders, Wall Street machinations, abortion, PC, ruinous anti-AGW actions, an ever-growing government, uncontrolled debt - on the American masses no matter how the &quot;little people&quot; vote. In many ways, our democracy is now similar to Irans. The people vote and if the Ruling Elites or Mullahs agree, the peoples will prevails. If they disagree, well, the people of Iran or the USA are out of luck. We and the Iranians effectively have democracies subject to veto by powerful, unelected forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Northstar:<br />
 Notice where democracy has “stuck” and where it has not. The common thread is religion. The countries that have stuck with it are, for the most part, either Judao-Christian or Hindu. The mid-east and asian “stans” are Islamic. The greartest drawback of accepting anything new is the human weakness called “religion”. Case in point, compare the cooperation of the international scientific community, which places a lot less emphesis on religion, to the human rights beliefs in the same countries.</i></p>
<p>Not entirely true. Most black Christian nations that started out democratic at independence, many with the same legal structures and parallel constitutions to France&#8217;s, the UKs, even the US Constitution &#8211; soon failed or are in the process of reaching &#8220;failed&#8221;.</p>
<p>And many white nations in the &#8220;judeo-christian&#8221; tradition, headed by Russia, but including Venezuela, Moldava, Nicaragua recently have backslid after finding democracy failed to work well..And, of course, the historical list of white nations in which democracy &#8220;blew it&#8221; and was replaced by authoritarian or communist rule is long.</p>
<p>Nor are all nations outside &#8220;judeo-christian&#8221; or &#8220;hindu&#8221; traditions excluded from being stable democracies. Japan &#8211; and more recently Singapore, Bangladesh, S Korea, Philippines, even Indonesia are presently democracies.   </p>
<p>We can also add that Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey are quasi-democracies &#8211; where democracy is well-established as desired by most the people, and practiced&#8230;But fragile, and tempered by Mullahs in the case of Iran or the military in the case of the other two usurping the will of the people on key points.</p>
<p>But,  if we are honest, we would admit that the will of the People is also frequently usurped in Europe by unaccountable EU ministers, in Israel by judges and lawyers (substituting as secular Mullahs of the Jews).</p>
<p>And in the USA, our democracy is frequently usurped by courts and by an unaccountable Jewish-Gentile Ruling Elite determined to shove Free Trade, Open Borders, Wall Street machinations, abortion, PC, ruinous anti-AGW actions, an ever-growing government, uncontrolled debt &#8211; on the American masses no matter how the &#8220;little people&#8221; vote. In many ways, our democracy is now similar to Irans. The people vote and if the Ruling Elites or Mullahs agree, the peoples will prevails. If they disagree, well, the people of Iran or the USA are out of luck. We and the Iranians effectively have democracies subject to veto by powerful, unelected forces.</p>
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