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		<title>By: GusH</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-fairness-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-215309</link>
		<dc:creator>GusH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cable shows are recieved by a CATV (which cable companies want you to think stands for CAble TV but really stands for Community Antenna TV) and they are sent through the air unless they originate in that city, therefore they are broadcast through the public air waves. The point of the Fairness Doctrine was to make the television and radio distributors anylize the truthiness of the shows and advertisements to some degree lest they have to air a conflicting view, making them charge twice the price (in case they were forced to give equal time away to a resonable apposing view) for products like cigarettes or hard liquor. The other benefit would be to make all broadcasters be somewhat responsible for their editorial comments being factual. Is is any wonder that people at right wing and alleged &quot;Christian&quot; radio and television stations are upset and worried? These people don&#039;t want to be tied down to anything like &quot;Truth&quot; or &quot;Fairness&quot; or &quot;Facts&quot;. They are not interested in consistancy either. What is funny is that nothing has changed in 2000 years as the people who ran the churches were hypocrites and pharacies, and those who valued truth and honesty were outsiders who were even hunted and persicuted. The fear was that Jesus might get everyone into trouble by telling the truth, when actually he just said things like &quot;give to Ceasar what is his and give to god what is his&quot; (in essence).

   These people just want what ever gets themselves and the RED TEAM ahead. They act like we should all vote on the right math answer? Why shouldn&#039;t the guy you want to have a beer with run the country? Why not make the most popular high school students doctors instead of the smartest? Well math is math and evedence is evedence and some opinions (like most of Rush&#039;s) are not based on facts act all, and should be opposed. If you can go to a court and say &quot;Rush L. says that most small businesses will suffer if taxes are raised on those making over $250,000 and even conservative fact finding organizations say that less than 2% of small business owners make over $250,000, then channels that air his nonsense should have to air someone saying those facts! That is less than equal anyways as the sum of both statements made separatley is that half the people heard an opinion that is opposite of the truth (like Rush cares).

   It&#039;s like if I said &quot;all republicans are child molestors and studies show that&quot; and then the RNC got to say &quot;most repulblicans are not child molesters&quot;(which in fairness is more accurate) the damage is still done to some degree isn&#039;t it?

   Why would anyone be afraid of the fairness doctrine unless they are HUGE LIARS? I think the answer is evedent and I would be okay with a law that simply made them say on the half hour: &quot;This is the Fox network and we oppose the fairness doctrine which has the goal of making broadcast&#039;s content fair and accurate. We think any donkeys rear end should be entitled to say and dang thing they want regardless of it&#039;s innaccuracies as this is America - Dang It&quot; :-)

    I&#039;d like to add &quot;GROW UP&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cable shows are recieved by a CATV (which cable companies want you to think stands for CAble TV but really stands for Community Antenna TV) and they are sent through the air unless they originate in that city, therefore they are broadcast through the public air waves. The point of the Fairness Doctrine was to make the television and radio distributors anylize the truthiness of the shows and advertisements to some degree lest they have to air a conflicting view, making them charge twice the price (in case they were forced to give equal time away to a resonable apposing view) for products like cigarettes or hard liquor. The other benefit would be to make all broadcasters be somewhat responsible for their editorial comments being factual. Is is any wonder that people at right wing and alleged &#8220;Christian&#8221; radio and television stations are upset and worried? These people don&#8217;t want to be tied down to anything like &#8220;Truth&#8221; or &#8220;Fairness&#8221; or &#8220;Facts&#8221;. They are not interested in consistancy either. What is funny is that nothing has changed in 2000 years as the people who ran the churches were hypocrites and pharacies, and those who valued truth and honesty were outsiders who were even hunted and persicuted. The fear was that Jesus might get everyone into trouble by telling the truth, when actually he just said things like &#8220;give to Ceasar what is his and give to god what is his&#8221; (in essence).</p>
<p>   These people just want what ever gets themselves and the RED TEAM ahead. They act like we should all vote on the right math answer? Why shouldn&#8217;t the guy you want to have a beer with run the country? Why not make the most popular high school students doctors instead of the smartest? Well math is math and evedence is evedence and some opinions (like most of Rush&#8217;s) are not based on facts act all, and should be opposed. If you can go to a court and say &#8220;Rush L. says that most small businesses will suffer if taxes are raised on those making over $250,000 and even conservative fact finding organizations say that less than 2% of small business owners make over $250,000, then channels that air his nonsense should have to air someone saying those facts! That is less than equal anyways as the sum of both statements made separatley is that half the people heard an opinion that is opposite of the truth (like Rush cares).</p>
<p>   It&#8217;s like if I said &#8220;all republicans are child molestors and studies show that&#8221; and then the RNC got to say &#8220;most repulblicans are not child molesters&#8221;(which in fairness is more accurate) the damage is still done to some degree isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>   Why would anyone be afraid of the fairness doctrine unless they are HUGE LIARS? I think the answer is evedent and I would be okay with a law that simply made them say on the half hour: &#8220;This is the Fox network and we oppose the fairness doctrine which has the goal of making broadcast&#8217;s content fair and accurate. We think any donkeys rear end should be entitled to say and dang thing they want regardless of it&#8217;s innaccuracies as this is America &#8211; Dang It&#8221; <img src='http://pajamasmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>    I&#8217;d like to add &#8220;GROW UP&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Woody Evins</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-fairness-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-205858</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody Evins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is nearly 5 months old, and even then the author saw this was coming. The only way you could even justify this to a 5- year- old is to say that all media forms have to present both sides of the argument, but alas, all the left- wing televised programs will remain uncontested by Conservative views on their channels. It seems to me that this is a direct attack on Conservatives. Now I may be young, but I&#039;m pretty sure I haven&#039;t heard of any conservative political plots to kill liberalism, so why are liberals trying to kill the Conservative line of thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is nearly 5 months old, and even then the author saw this was coming. The only way you could even justify this to a 5- year- old is to say that all media forms have to present both sides of the argument, but alas, all the left- wing televised programs will remain uncontested by Conservative views on their channels. It seems to me that this is a direct attack on Conservatives. Now I may be young, but I&#8217;m pretty sure I haven&#8217;t heard of any conservative political plots to kill liberalism, so why are liberals trying to kill the Conservative line of thought?</p>
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		<title>By: Expose The Media &#187; Democrats In Congress Want To Control Free Speech: Does Obama?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expose The Media &#187; Democrats In Congress Want To Control Free Speech: Does Obama?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Media Doesn&#8217;t Want You To See   Democrats Consider Reviving &#8216;Fairness Doctrine&#8217; Obama And The Fairness Doctrine Dems Push, Yet Deny Radio Censorship Effort Democrats Launch New Petition Against Rush Limbaugh [...]</description>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-fairness-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-204111</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s something to take into consideration though. Do you remember a month ago when it was reported the Leon Panetta&#039;s daughter was an &quot;anti-American, anti-military, avowed Marxist&quot;? Conservative radio ran with this. Well it was later revealed that the person in question wasn&#039;t his daughter. He doesn&#039;t have one. Did you ever hear a retraction? I didn&#039;t. It&#039;s crappy reporting like this that&#039;s giving the fairness doctrine more of an implied legitimacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s something to take into consideration though. Do you remember a month ago when it was reported the Leon Panetta&#8217;s daughter was an &#8220;anti-American, anti-military, avowed Marxist&#8221;? Conservative radio ran with this. Well it was later revealed that the person in question wasn&#8217;t his daughter. He doesn&#8217;t have one. Did you ever hear a retraction? I didn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s crappy reporting like this that&#8217;s giving the fairness doctrine more of an implied legitimacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Clinton Backs Fairness Doctrine or Something Similar - Page 5 - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Clinton Backs Fairness Doctrine or Something Similar - Page 5 - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Powerman   where the hell did i say he did???    Pajamas Media </description>
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		<title>By: Aaron Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sen. Obama does not support reimposing the Fairness Doctrine on broadcasters. He considers this debate to be a distraction from the conversation we should be having about opening up the airwaves and modern communications to as many diverse viewpoints as possible. That is why Sen. Obama supports media-ownership caps, network neutrality, public broadcasting, as well as increasing minority ownership of broadcasting and print outlets.&quot;

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I hate to break it to you, but imposing media-ownership caps, enforcing network neutrality, and increasing media minority ownership IS the Fairness Doctrine, but in a different form.  Media ownership caps is an attempt to curtail the pervasiveness of conservative talk radio by limiting their success and making it easier for liberal networks to compete.  Network neutrality is no different then applying fairness principles to broadcasters.  The terminology is no different than the Fairness Doctrine.  And minority ownership is a nicer way of saying &quot;more liberal broadcasters&quot; since most minority groups are liberal.

Liberals need to stop using the Federal Government to settle scores they ought to settle in the free market.  If they can&#039;t compete, therefore break the legs of conservative radio via legislation is cowardly and pathetic.  The Fairness Doctrine will resurface just like it did under the Reagan, Bush senior, and Bush junior administrations.  I have a hard time believing that Obama would veto the legislation when it passes both houses.

Supreme Court, here we come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sen. Obama does not support reimposing the Fairness Doctrine on broadcasters. He considers this debate to be a distraction from the conversation we should be having about opening up the airwaves and modern communications to as many diverse viewpoints as possible. That is why Sen. Obama supports media-ownership caps, network neutrality, public broadcasting, as well as increasing minority ownership of broadcasting and print outlets.&#8221;</p>
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<p>I hate to break it to you, but imposing media-ownership caps, enforcing network neutrality, and increasing media minority ownership IS the Fairness Doctrine, but in a different form.  Media ownership caps is an attempt to curtail the pervasiveness of conservative talk radio by limiting their success and making it easier for liberal networks to compete.  Network neutrality is no different then applying fairness principles to broadcasters.  The terminology is no different than the Fairness Doctrine.  And minority ownership is a nicer way of saying &#8220;more liberal broadcasters&#8221; since most minority groups are liberal.</p>
<p>Liberals need to stop using the Federal Government to settle scores they ought to settle in the free market.  If they can&#8217;t compete, therefore break the legs of conservative radio via legislation is cowardly and pathetic.  The Fairness Doctrine will resurface just like it did under the Reagan, Bush senior, and Bush junior administrations.  I have a hard time believing that Obama would veto the legislation when it passes both houses.</p>
<p>Supreme Court, here we come.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Coburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Coburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before the election I visited a couple of Obama blog sites. I asked simple questions, wanting to know why the people there supported Obama so strongly. When I would ask a specific question or quote a news source, such as Fox, the &#039;locals&#039; would go ballistic. I was told that I would be sorry after Obama was elected because he would make sure I couldn&#039;t spread my bigotry, that FOX news would be shut down, that all of the people that had radio shows would be choked out. It was truly magnificent in its monstrosity. I pointed out that they, too, would be muffled if Obama restricts free speech and then I made the cardinal mistake of asking why they would condone such a thing. They wouldn&#039;t be allowed to voice their opinions, and if they preferred to live in a country where freedom of speech is bridged, I would prefer that they go to one as opposed to trying to change this one. Oh my. I was told I was anti-American, stupid, and worse. I never did get a reasonable answer about the Fairness Doctrine issue or why they supported Obama. How can anyone in this country support the reinsitution of the Doctrine? There is NO RESTRICTION on who can be on the airways, now. Part of the problem is that the Liberals just scream an hollar, talk over each other and never make rational points. When my husband and I watch Hannity and Colmes, he always leaves when Colmes starts an interrogation. He is strident, over-bearing, and angry. No one, not even liberals themselves, want to listen to them in a talk show format. If Obama chooses to try an end-run on our freedom of speech, he will be in for quite a fight. I for one, will use every avenue at my disposal to keep our freedoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before the election I visited a couple of Obama blog sites. I asked simple questions, wanting to know why the people there supported Obama so strongly. When I would ask a specific question or quote a news source, such as Fox, the &#8216;locals&#8217; would go ballistic. I was told that I would be sorry after Obama was elected because he would make sure I couldn&#8217;t spread my bigotry, that FOX news would be shut down, that all of the people that had radio shows would be choked out. It was truly magnificent in its monstrosity. I pointed out that they, too, would be muffled if Obama restricts free speech and then I made the cardinal mistake of asking why they would condone such a thing. They wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to voice their opinions, and if they preferred to live in a country where freedom of speech is bridged, I would prefer that they go to one as opposed to trying to change this one. Oh my. I was told I was anti-American, stupid, and worse. I never did get a reasonable answer about the Fairness Doctrine issue or why they supported Obama. How can anyone in this country support the reinsitution of the Doctrine? There is NO RESTRICTION on who can be on the airways, now. Part of the problem is that the Liberals just scream an hollar, talk over each other and never make rational points. When my husband and I watch Hannity and Colmes, he always leaves when Colmes starts an interrogation. He is strident, over-bearing, and angry. No one, not even liberals themselves, want to listen to them in a talk show format. If Obama chooses to try an end-run on our freedom of speech, he will be in for quite a fight. I for one, will use every avenue at my disposal to keep our freedoms.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordpress Blogs Support Being Censored By The Government &#171; Needs of the Many</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordpress Blogs Support Being Censored By The Government &#171; Needs of the Many</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all know that Obama is blatantly opposed to free speech, and has put great effort into censoring news and broadcast elements during the campaign.  Even censoring a debate between a critic, and supporter, of his. Obama is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all know that Obama is blatantly opposed to free speech, and has put great effort into censoring news and broadcast elements during the campaign.  Even censoring a debate between a critic, and supporter, of his. Obama is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Call for Action &#171; The Conservative Resistance&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Call for Action &#171; The Conservative Resistance&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Democratic President-Elect Barak Obama, June 2008: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-fairness-doctrine/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-fairness-doctrine/comment-page-2/#comment-149800</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who would&#039;ve thought ONE YEAR AGO... 

1) That we would&#039;ve elected the most radical marxist in the US Senate.
2) That we&#039;d be staring down the barrel of history, not only repeating other socialist states of the past who elected charismatic leaders (which I thought before last week, the US was immune to...) but WANTING more government intervention after Bush&#039;s failures in this regard?</description>
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<p>1) That we would&#8217;ve elected the most radical marxist in the US Senate.<br />
2) That we&#8217;d be staring down the barrel of history, not only repeating other socialist states of the past who elected charismatic leaders (which I thought before last week, the US was immune to&#8230;) but WANTING more government intervention after Bush&#8217;s failures in this regard?</p>
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