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1. Know Enough? - Political Wrinkles:

[...] Ayers and Obama had first met at the 1995 fundraiser. And what was missing? Find out at link. Pajamas Media

Aug 22, 2008 - 1:21 am 2. mike:

hizbullah and hamas also do humanitarian deeds for their communities. maybe we should overlook their terror and embrace them, too. i mean, it’s just a little murder and terror, that’s all.

Aug 22, 2008 - 2:37 am 3. More on Obama and the Annenberg Challenge | Where Liberty Dwells:

[...] excellent post by Tom Maguire at Pajamas Media detailing and summarizing Obama’s close connection with the terrorist Bill [...]

Aug 22, 2008 - 6:37 am 4. simpleLogic:

The other part of this should be the simple question – If Mr. Obama was a member of Republican party, would there be any more media attention given to his past “charitable/community” efforts?

Aug 22, 2008 - 6:42 am 5. goy:

Think like a Modern Liberal for a moment (thank you, Evan Sayet …

The thought that there was or ever might be anything unseemly (let alone politically suicidal) about a long-standing political alliance with a known, unrepentant domestic terrorist has never even crossed Obama’s stuttering mind. That is a mathematical certainty. Furthermore, what we know of Obama’s past leaves no doubt that in his heart of hearts he also believes Ayers “didn’t do enough”. And certainly Michelle Obama’s screeds denigrating America reflect that same sentiment. Either way, like Edwards’ elitist ego-blindness in the throes of his adulterous tryst, Obama sees what he does as beyond judgment by those he purports to ’serve’. Judgment – discrimination between good and evil – is for bitter, conservative neanderthals who cling to their guns and religion, not for the enlightened ‘progressives’ of the new millennium.

But there’s another, perhaps more mundane issue here that dwarfs even Obama’s ego. That is the combined question of Leadership and the Future of American Education.

Obama’s fantasy is that he is capable of leading what is still the most powerful nation on this planet. And perhaps more significantly in these (oddly) tumultuous times, he also fantasizes that he has the fortitude, experience and moral wherewithal to act as Commander-In-Chief of the United States Armed Forces – to directly wield the frightening power of the most dangerous military force ever seen in human history. He would like a majority of America to join him in this fantasy, and his minions from AP/Reuters on down have been desperately working to make that fantasy a reality.

So in light of this fantasy Obama would like to impose on the electorate, it’s instructive to examine – closely – the outcome of the one and only instance where he’s actually been handed a leadership position.

For that information, it may not be necessary to review the Annenberg documents themselves – which by now, as Glenn Reynolds has suggested (and I agree, having lived in and near Chicago until ‘73) have most likely been or are being purged by the ‘donor’ of any damning facts as I type this. A reading of the Annenberg Challenge Research Project’s Final Report is more than enough to demonstrate the suicidal folly of joining Obama in his personal fantasies about his fitness to lead a school board, let alone The United States of America.

That the “Challenge” was a classic study in how to waste tens of millions on mediocrity is now on record. But of course the additional tidbits buried in the Report are also of interest in light of who was driving the bus. Just as one tiny example: “The Challenge’s “bottom line” was improving student achievement and other social and psychological outcomes.” (emph. added)

Anyone who’s been the victim of and/or who’s watched the destructive effects of constructivism on our educational institutions already knows exactly what these “outcomes” refer to. And the implementation of that philosophy has had an empirically demonstrable relationship to the decline in “student achievement”. In short: the “Challenge’s” goals (which are the goals of Ed. Schools across America) are internally contradictory, and they’re only one example, among thousands, that demonstrate why education is faltering in America.

Alexander Russo wrote on this subject in Slate as far back as April. Tom Maguire covered the topic extensively in May. These of course were in the context of the primaries. Since then AP/Reuters (and subordinates) as well as the ‘crack’ investigative reporters at CNN, WaPo, NYT, etc., have studiously ignored this subject (npi). Time to force it on them, just like the Edwards scandal and all the other embarrassing issues they keep trying to hide.

Aug 22, 2008 - 7:11 am 6. Cletus:

Let’s not forget that the statement about Ayers’ and Obama’s kids going to school together is complete BS, because Obama’s kids are 10 and 7 or something like that, and Ayers kids are fully grown. It’s impossible for them to have gone to school together.

Aug 22, 2008 - 7:44 am 7. Chris:

Investigative jounalism is hard. Therefore there has to be a payoff sufficient to justify such an extraordinary effort for the MSM. Contributing in any way to electing a Republican president (by investigating Obama) is not sufficient reason for them to do that job.

Aug 22, 2008 - 7:57 am 8. BobNC:

Don’t forget all the other Chicago crooks. Annenberg gave the Ayers/Obama foundation a half million dollars to spread around on the south side. In the foundation minutes, you’ll probably find that Rezko, Jesse Jackson Jr., Arenda Troutman, some union bosses and some city employees’ relatives are mentioned and even become beneficiaries. Clearly, there is a cover up, they are hiding something, but it may not just be Hussein and Ayers.

Aug 22, 2008 - 8:30 am 9. Rubicon:

Like many, I suspected the Ayers connection was deeper than has been told. The socialist agenda of these folks is being obscured by media babble, that is perhaps intended to deflect all attention away from the facts, and onto such vacuous issues as race as a factor.
This article and the well thought out responses I have read here, clearly point out that we the people must continue to rabble rouse the media into a through investigative report on this connection.
The Ayers speech to Hugo Chavez quote, “We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution” or “La educacion es revolucion!”, is also a huge red flag (forgive the pun) warning to all of us that our educational system is under direct attack by those who embrace socialism as the answer to all of humanities problems.
Why is it we are asked to buy into a system or belief that seems to always digress into totalitarianism? The press in Venezuela has been quieted. The oil industry & the banking industry have been nationalized & qualified observers warn they are being milked of their assets, as we speak. Chavez has seized legal authority to remain president for life, plus authority to enact almost any change he wants, w/o the approval of the national legislature. In fact, I am unsure that body continues to exist. Last I heard, those remaining were committed Chavez followers & they were rubber stamping anything Hugo told them to do.
No, we do not need Obama. And, race is not the issue at all. The issue is, he is unqualified and an unrepentant socialist who would seek to push an agenda here that is shockingly similar to that which Chavez has “imposed” on the good citizens of Venezuela.
McCain ain’t no rose, but, he smells a whole lot better than the weed Democrats are trying to push on us!

Aug 22, 2008 - 8:47 am 10. Evil Pundit:

It’s a disgrace that the University of Illinois is participating in an act of political censorship. Universities were once meant to spread knowledge, not cover it up.

Aug 22, 2008 - 9:13 am 11. Joshua:

Tom Maguire wrote: For example, his speech to Hugo Chavez of Venezuela in 2006 explained the importance of education reform: “We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution” or “La educacion es revolucion!”.

So let me get this right, Bill Ayers, domestic terrorist spends most of his life “reforming” education (re-education) to socialist ends. So much so, that Hugo Chavez, the new communist on the block asked for his expert opinion on enhancing la revelucion. Barack and Ayers worked closely on the same failed social re-engineering programs in Chicago education. Hum, interesting but not newsworthy I’m sure.

goy – Thank you for your clear insight as well.

It seems to me, that for all the “progressive” machinations, progress is no where to be found. Their power fantasies rule their lives. I’ll opt out of a ride on the progressive fantasy bus thank you.

Aug 22, 2008 - 9:33 am 12. RE:

Is there even ONE honorable character in Obama’s background?

I’ve seen no evidence to suggest there is.

Aug 22, 2008 - 9:40 am 13. goy:

- Barack and Ayers worked closely on the same failed social re-engineering programs in Chicago education. Hum, interesting but not newsworthy I’m sure.

Heh.

Forget it, Josh’. It’s Chi-Town.

Aug 22, 2008 - 10:09 am 14. Believer:

At the very least, this is a man who is happy to fritter away private funds on his and his fellow pals’ failed ideas.

He will be even happier to misuse far more of your dollars and mine.

Add to it that I suspect those of us who claim no personal harm from our nation’s history of oppression of blacks will be footing the bill for the advanced education of others as part of a reparations’ package.

I hear that intent every time the lovely Michelle complains about the heavy burden of paying off her and her hubby’s college debt.

And just imagine what our money will be teaching them. Ayers and Dorhn – the unrepentant domestic terrorists – are both professors.

I hope the full truth is known before the election. For now, I need know nothing more.

Aug 22, 2008 - 10:38 am 15. Joshua:

Can anyone tell me what the “tipping point” is that moves a country like Venezuela (or Iran, Cuba, Russia) from democratic elections and ideals to totalitarian rule? I know its not a single issue but it seems that the formula for this process doesn’t change that much wherever it is implemented. I mean look at Russia regressing towards totalitarian rule. There is obviously a blueprint of definable and measurable strategies and tactics. Why don’t we simply summarize these irrefutable strategies in bullet points (no pun intended) and I would be willing to canvas my neigborhood and city to raise awareness with the American people. It seems that we make this a little too complicated sometimes with far too many explanations and words and expert opinions, although most are accurate.

Can’t we agree on one or two pages of strategies & tactics that lead to totalitarian regimes and perpetrate socialism on the masses, print them back to back as a handout, e-mail them to all right thinking people for distribution and significantly raise awareness of this plague that is threatening America.

I’m convinced that America is nearing the “tipping point” itself and the evidence is all around us. But in all the words and opinions and 24 hour news cycle and propoganda and mis-information and dis-information and outright lying all America hears is… blah, blah, blah, Bush sucks, blah, blah, America sucks, blah, blah, blah, all terrorists are in Afghanistan, blah, blah! The plain fact is, very few elected officials are not motivated to do this for us. Certainly no where near enough to create change. Change, what a freaking joke, are you kidding me? Do I have a sign on my front and back that says “I’m Stupid & Kick Me Again Please.”

We’ll soon reach the tipping point in America, maybe we already have, where socialism gains critical mass and picks up speed exponentially toward complete saturation and destruction of America as we remember her. Can we create and communicate simple talking points addressing totalitarianism for every clear minded patriot that loves this country and wants to protect her from power hungry liberal socialists? People aren’t going to read the communist manifesto or the volumes written on this issue. Let’s make it simple… “3 yards and a cloud of dust” as Woody Hayes made so effective!

Aug 22, 2008 - 10:50 am 16. Rachel Peepers:

I really do hate to say it, but Tom McGuire’s article about Ayres and Obama and Annenberg scares the living daylights out of me. If before I thought Obama was a bad choice for even the Democrats, now I’m convinced he’s worse than bad, he’s dangerous. A consummate, socialistic, America-blaming, unpatriotic liar. One who’s potential election could send this country reeling for decades to come. To think that he could be the commander in chief of the most powerful armed forced the world has ever seen is almost to frightening to fathom. And I’m deadly serious. I’ve written a lot of tongue in cheek, cheeky posts, but right now, when I try to wrap my mind around the potential dire consequences of an Obama Presidency, I’ve got to admit, my hearts in my throat.

Aug 22, 2008 - 11:48 am 17. ice:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/21/ayers-in-2006-weather-underground-a-great-teaching-moment/

the “teaching moment” of the weather underground

Aug 22, 2008 - 12:13 pm 18. Dave ll:

Oy! Goy (and others)..some GREAT comments about this. Glad to see this getting the attention it so-well deserves.

The American voting public DESPERATELY (for some especially!) needs to see exactly what Obama did or didn’t do in his ONE SINGLE life experience as a chief executive.

What we have been able to glean from the “crumbs” is that it was a dismal failure at best, and a gross mismanagement of MILLIONS for pet radical-left projects of dubious and ultimately worthless value at worse.

They say it’s not the “crime” but the cover-up that ultimately leads to one’s downfall. This may not be the case here. Sure, we could find that (if) once the papers are released that nothing much is there (scrubbed clean, no doubt!) but the damage may already have been done with the final reports that we have. Obama has nowhere to hide on this and not much of a defense to back up his lack of accomplishment and complete wasting of millions for NO CHANGE in the Chicago public schools.

If there EVER was a lesson here that throwing money at a problem is the solution, when that money is controlled by liberals with leftist agendas…THIS IS IT!

Can you only IMAGINE the SPENDING and WASTE that would occur with a President Obama and a majority House and Senate????

I shudder to think of the consequences…hold onto your wallet!

Aug 22, 2008 - 12:17 pm 19. Dave ll:

Hmmm…that should have said, “is NOT the solution”…but you get my drift.

Aug 22, 2008 - 12:27 pm 20. Night Owl:

“Can anyone tell me what the “tipping point” is that moves a country like Venezuela (or Iran, Cuba, Russia) from democratic elections and ideals to totalitarian rule?”

Here’s my tongue-in-cheek reductionist response to that question:

1) Divide the population of a society into two definable groups- the “go-getters” and the “come-get-mes”.

2) When the number of people willing and able to think for themselves, learn from their mistakes, and contribute positively to society through their competence (go-getters), is outweighed by the intellectually lazy, trend-following, emotionally stunted, incompetent often to the to the point of dependence (come-get-mes), expect one of the authoritarian “isms” to take hold.

In simpler terms, the “isms” take control when the majority willingly give up their individuality to an overarching orthodoxy, because they are too incompetent or lazy to think for themselves.

Aug 22, 2008 - 12:31 pm 21. always right:

Can anybody make a guess at how many true ‘victims’ in this failed project?

Sure millions were wasted, but the guy donating the money must have a similar philosophical bend, at the very least a sympathetic attitude.

However, during the ‘experiment’, exactly how many kids’ minds were touched, or ruined?

Aug 22, 2008 - 2:20 pm 22. WR Jonas:

The tipping point is probably a bit harder to discern but I like visual references since they grip our thoughts and reactions.
I traveled near the Royal Gorge one year and we went over to see the bridge. My wife and daughter puttered around in the parking area looking for scarves and I sauntered over to a viewing area. I leaned out and peered into the chasm and I distinctly remember inhaling sharply and gasping at the sheer depth of a thousand foot plunge.
We are at that parking area about to consider the complete annihilation of our society and we are convinced ” it can’t be that serious”? The Hell you say?

Aug 22, 2008 - 2:39 pm 23. bad:

There is much more money involved than just the Annenberg Grant of $49.2 million. The grant required 2:1 matching funds, on the part of the Obama & Ayers foundation, The Chicago Annenberg Challenge. By the time Obama stepped down in 1999, CAC had raised $60 million, far short of the $98.4 million required to fully access all $49.2 million of the Annenberg Grant.

But when the CAC closed shop in 2001, the full $49.2 million original grant had been awarded, which is suggestive that CAC manged to raise the matching funds.

The required matching funds of $98.4 million plus the original grant of $49.2 million adds up to nearly $150 million spent on the Ayers & Obama venture.

Aug 22, 2008 - 3:12 pm 24. goy:

Josh’ – part of the problem with demonstrating the inherent evil of marxism OR socialism in a straightforward way – outside of pointing to the 150,000,000 lives snuffed out during the 20th century in the fruitless pursuit of its “perfection” – is that it requires thinking things all the way through to their logical conclusion using reason, mathematics, history and a knowledge of human nature as guides. This isn’t something the average voter has the attention span or, sadly, the necessary level of education to do. And the latter, at least, is absolutely by design here in America.

Th. Jefferson correctly observed: a nation that wishes to be ignorant and free wishes for what never was and never will be. Student achievement in America has taken a flaming nosedive over the course of academia’s stewardship by liberals, constructivists, collectivists and those who share the sentiments of American-ideal-despising, wannabe militants like Ayers. Not a coincidence.

So, to answer your question, IMHO a major lever in the tipping point is provided when a majority of the population in question can be rendered ignorant enough:

- Ignorant enough to be duped by the formal and informal logical fallacies required to denigrate free market capitalism and promote the false promise of socialism.

- Ignorant enough to blindly buy into what is essentially just vacuous marketing hype and sloganeering, like “diversity”, multiculturalism, “tolerance”, “sustainability”, “social justice”, “progressive” education, “hope” and “change”.

- Ignorant enough to be convinced that it’s the State’s responsibility to see to their needs, and that they have a natural entitlement to a job, a home, an education, health care, a happy and care-free retirement and reparations for the damage done to persons no longer living by others who are long since dead.

- Ignorant enough to be whipped into a frenzy over corporate profits when the government is receiving “pure” profit at five times the rate; and ignorant enough to applaud the notion of “taking those profits”, and to cheer as that government demands accountability from those corporations when it should be them demanding accountability from their government.

As you can hopefully see, we’re well on the way.

This process realistically only takes a few generations. At least with no active resistance. And so far there’s been just about zero of that.

Aug 22, 2008 - 3:33 pm 25. Nathan:

This is a great story. We Americans who truely love this country must stand united and make sure Obama does not get elected as our next president. He is a great danger to our country and our future. Just a bit news about the convention comping next week, Obama is letting an Islamic Group, which is tied to 9/11 and other terrorist threats, a role and speech time at the convention. If that doesn’t tell you something, I don’t know what will.

Aug 22, 2008 - 3:33 pm 26. AdrianS:

Philip J. Berg, Esq. Files Federal Lawsuit Requesting Obama Be Removed as a Candidate as he does not meet the Qualifications for President.

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=43

Aug 22, 2008 - 3:44 pm 27. mee:

strange how Factcheck.org is also funded by the Anneberg group. maybe they can help and get those “infamouse” Anneberg challenge papers made public..instead of allowing Daley and crew keeping them locked up my guess is mayor Daley got a lot of $$$ for nuthin also…there is nothing more frustrating than “public do-gooders” taking advantage of the poor and blinded..maybe that is Obama’s real “HOPE” background rememeber his ties to the HELPING OPPRESSED PEOPLE EVERYWHERE group???(Farrakhan)

Aug 22, 2008 - 4:43 pm 28. mee:

you know I read somewhere that Obama worked for THOMAS AYERS at SIDNEY AUSTIN law firm in the summer of 1989 (right out of college) and maybe that is when he first meet our “home-grown” terroist Billy ayers.also Ayers wife Bernadine Dohrn worked there also along-side Michelle
(Obama) 1988-1991 so yes his association with Ayers is more than a “neighbor”so wow OBAMA,AYERS MICHELLE AND BERNIDINE ALL working @SIDNEY AUSTIN and if you ever look it up SIDNEY AUSTIN IS A large $$$ SUPORTRER OF oBAMA SO MUCH FOR NO TIES TO SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS(APRIL 16 USA TODAY)

Aug 22, 2008 - 5:09 pm 29. Right Face:

Claire Wolfe was right….
“America is at the awkward stage. Too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the bastards.”

Aug 22, 2008 - 5:19 pm 30. Obama and Ayers 4: A History « The Rhetorican:

[...] August 22, 2008 Posted by Jehuda in Uncategorized. Tags: News, Politics trackback Tom Maguire explains why Annenberg-Gate [...]

Aug 22, 2008 - 5:52 pm 31. Twok:

I never thought there would be a serious candidate that could make Gore, Kerry, and Hillary Clinton seem like tolerable moderates, who at least aren’t cozy with overt anti-Americans.

Incredibly, such a situation is actually upon us.

Aug 22, 2008 - 6:00 pm 32. Twok:

I still think Obama will win.

But the interesting situation happens after that. I think it will take 90 days, until April 2009, for most people to actually miss Bush.

Obama will be THAT scary.

2012 will, however, allow America to elect a solid conservative with little resistance.

Aug 22, 2008 - 6:06 pm 33. ZEITGEIST:

[...] ON BARACK OBAMA AND BILL AYERS from Tom Maguire. “Barack Obama and the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers have worked closely [...]

Aug 22, 2008 - 6:19 pm 34. b. mcmanus:

I know it’s painful, but its also clear. McCain is slowing throttling his chances with this bs. Keep it up, please. Ha HA Ha!!

Aug 22, 2008 - 6:31 pm 35. Percy Dovetonsils:

“…a serious candidate that could make Gore, Kerry, and Hillary Clinton seem like tolerable moderates…”

Hell, I miss Mondale.

Aug 22, 2008 - 6:46 pm 36. wooof:

Let’s see. Wasting anywhere from 50 to 150 million dollars on a failed educational project. And failing in ever project he was involved with on the South Side. Gee, wonder why he doesn’t want publicity.
I can tell you from 30 years in education……every reform spends money and delievers NOTHING> How many “mojo” jobs did the millions create. Mojo jobs are “magic” jobs that produce nothing but a salary for the managers of the millions.

Aug 22, 2008 - 7:26 pm 37. Elroy Jetson:

RE said:
“Is there even ONE honorable character in Obama’s background?”

Obama’s grandmother, but he threw her under the infamous bus a long time ago.

Aug 22, 2008 - 7:49 pm 38. bad:

The link takes you to documents from the CAC board that are marked as final grant certification. The final 10 pages of the file are the most interesting.

Aug 22, 2008 - 7:50 pm 39. Insufficiently Sensitive:

Ayers and Obama in their CAC career were able to hand out over $100,000,000 in disbursements. Ostensibly these were to improve learning performance in schoolchildren, although the bottom line report at the end of the campaign showed no such improvement.

So what were they up to, exactly? Certainly political organization and agitation, in opposition to the elected Chicago School Board’s administration. But a reading of their organizational goals leaves the reader gasping in admiration for the glib verbose clouds of meanlingless drivel and wafty considerations – as if the language deliberately concealed the smallest hint of specific actions the CAC shelled out to support.

We are therefore left to wonder, who benefited? Certainly not the schoolchildren. Nor the elected school board, which was forced to spend significant resources in political defenses against the enormous Obama-Ayers war chest.

Most likely, the beneficiaries were Obama and Ayers themselves, in that those mighty resources enabled them to organize and maintain a very large political network, useful to them in fields far beyond education. One pinpoint view is that of Ayers’s endowment of the Maoist Klonsky – and how many other radicals buried within local groups?

I would conclude that Obama’s proposal for a Federal do-gooder corps, funded in parity with the US military, is his logical next step after his pilot project with the CAC. If a hundred million organized the radicals well enough to float Obama’s political career, think how such Federal resources might be used as a slush fund to endow hundreds of thousands of ‘activists’ in overwhelming the democratic process in every urban center of the country. Hint: they wouldn’t be Republicans.

Aug 22, 2008 - 7:51 pm 40. bad:

The file from global labor has financial documents marked as “FINAL.” The final 10 pages are the most informative.

http://globallabor.info/Annenberg%20Documents/CAC%202000%20Annual%20Report.pdf

Aug 22, 2008 - 7:54 pm 41. Joshua:

Night Owl:

It seems the “go-getters” can be taxed ad infinitum because they are go getters. They’re not going to stop working because it’s woven into their fabric to be self starters, take initiative and be industrious. They will suit up and show up day after day in spite of the redistribution of their wealth and press on towards their goal. I guess that is until they become vodka swizzling drunks that sit and stare at the single bulb hanging from the cieling of their government provided apartment.

The “come-get-mes” are just lazy opportunists that say, “Hey, the man owes me and I’m going to get me some.” Walking to the mailbox on the 1st and the 15th are celebrated every month as their contribution to the American dream. I get it, thank you!

WR Jonas – Yikes! I find myself gasping like that just getting out of bed in the AM! As comedian Steven Wright said, “You know that feeling you get when you lean back in your chair and you almost tip over? I feel like that all the time!” Thank you, I think this is coming together!

goy – So the “dumbing down” of America, as former Education Czar Bill Bennett called it, is a key component of the blueprint for socialism? It makes complete sense. Would you subscribe to the thinking that prior to the industrial revolution and the implementation of the public school system in the mid 1800’s, America was not lacking for scholars, scientists, philosophers or great thinkers across all disciplines? Therefore, the public school system plays a role in creating workers that simply produce and consume and won’t complain as their freedoms slowly erode? If so, do you think the explosion of home school educators (combined with those that excel in public schools in spite of the odds) can turn the tide of stupidity being pumped out of the public school system? Here’s a chilling thought, maybe the 40-50% drop out rate in public schools is a blessing in disguise. Geez, what a nightmare!

Right Face – Me thinks Claire Wolfe has empathy for our plight!

b. mcmanus – What the hell are you talking about. Say something intelligent please! Can you make a succinct, intelligent case for Marxism or systemic socialism as the driving force for revolutionizing America and the global landscape as Bill Ayers suggests? I’d like you to describe SPECIFICALLY how it has succeeded globally and how we can logically depend on it to strengthen America over the next century and beyond. I’m eagerly anticipating your response? Please teach me Professor b. mcmanus!

Aug 22, 2008 - 8:05 pm 42. Ed:

Is it possible to find some of the now adult kids who were schooled through the Annenberg Challenge? Find out what kinds of ideas were fed to them? That would be the key item. If the radical Ayers spent his efforts indoctrinating and creating radicals with OB’s help, that would be a hot smoking gun. Otherwise OB is simply consorting with a couple who should be serving time.

Aug 22, 2008 - 8:44 pm 43. David H Dennis:

I don’t think a friendship with Mr Ayers, in and of itself, disqualifies anyone from the Presidency. Mr Ayers is known as a reformer and so it is natural that someone else known as a reformer would find him of interest.

No, that’s not too interesting.

What IS interesting is the nature of the reforms being planned. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge is truly an Obama-style project – it had vague goals that were not designed to be understood, the method in which these goals were to be achieved was as clear as mud, and the outcome was muddled at best. Read the 1999 and 2003 reports, or at least as much as you can understand of them, and I think you will get the idea.

As far as I can tell, the real point of the Annenberg Challenge was a bureaucratic turf battle between businesspeople, who wanted students who could read and write, the teachers and administrators working in the schools, and this fuzzy “decentralized” system of councils that the Challenge promoted. The Annenberg Challenge reports assessed student performance but did not try to understand what was changed in the classroom, what happened there and why the outcomes were as they were. The whole thing was attention to bureaucratic inputs and turf fighting.

The opaque educational bureaucratic language made reading those reports an exercise in masochism and I’m sure this was quite deliberate. There was no feeling like you were in the classroom or personally involved with anything, or that the people writing the report cared about students or teaching.

The reason I go into this in detail is that I believe this is a glimpse of how Obama would run things. He would go for style over substance and he would wind up accomplishing nothing. He had $50 million to blow in the Annenberg Challenge, and it essentially vanished into thin air.

If you want to see a reason to condemn Obama, I think his role as Chairman of the Challenge is a good start. Not because of any personal associations but because he had a chance to make a difference and accomplished nothing.

D

Aug 22, 2008 - 8:59 pm 44. Joshua:

ED – Join a home study group from Trinity United Church of Black Liberation Theology (oh yea, in Christ) and you can sit right at the feet of those who were schooled in the dark arts (no pun intended)of CAC and liberal socialism. I’ll bet a big fat dollar that of the 8500 members at Trinity every last one has been touched by the golden handouts of BO & Ayers! This is going to be really fun to watch as it unfolds. Slippery people + slippery places = A slippery slope!

Aug 22, 2008 - 9:13 pm 45. Believer:

I’m encouraging everyone go to “michellemalkin.com” to follow her reporting on ACORN Watch.

This is another very troubling association of the would-be messiah. And Michelle is one of the few getting the word out about it.

Already ACORN has been convicted of voter fraud and BO’s campaign is now adjusting its report to the FEC to ‘more correctly’ reflect the use of some $800,000 – and to whom that money actually went. Not peanuts, folks.

This is making me ill. Sorry to be OT. I thought this was the thread I’d posted about ACORN earlier…

Aug 22, 2008 - 9:34 pm 46. Joshua:

David H Dennis – “I don’t think a friendship with Mr Ayers, in and of itself, disqualifies anyone from the Presidency.”

I get your point… kind of. So if John McCain, Mit Romney, Fred Thompson, Mike Huckabee, Rudy Guiliani (scratch Rudy, that wouldn’t happen in a gazillion years) had a close working relationship with an unrepentant domestic terrorist who said “I wish we would havd done more” to terrorize America, that wouldn’t disqualify them in the eyes of the liberal media to be POTUS? Hum, call me naive, but I have a sneaking suspicion anyone within 100 miles of that mess would be effectively disqualified by the media.

Take the recent Ralph Reed double standard. Ralph was buddies with a slippery lobbyist, Jack Abramoff, but was never convicted of any crime himself. Ralph strongly supports John McCain for President and he used his extensive list of contacts to bolster a fundraising dinner recently for John McCain. He didn’t attend the event and he didn’t ask anyone to donate to John McCain, he just wants to help the Republican party. John McCain was harpooned by the liberal media for being in the pocket of Ralph Reed & and convicted felon Jack Abramoff. The implication was of course, how desperately wicked all republicans are and how Ralph Reed’s support of McCain would obviously give us four more years of the failed George Bush policies, and did we mention John McCain is getting money from a convicted felon Jack Abramoff, Jack Abramoff, Jack Abramoff… Jack Abramoff!

The significant point that you did make about Barack Obama’s ideology I think is very accurate. I would disagree with one small point.

David H Dennis – “The reason I go into this in detail is that I believe this is a glimpse of how Obama would run things.”

I don’t think this is a true glimpse of Obama’s “opaqueness.” I’m convinced if BO is elected with a Democrat majority in Congress, we could only hope and dream of opaqueness. Accurate record keeping and accountablity will be completely non-existant to the point of complete blackout(once again, no pun intended).

Aug 22, 2008 - 9:50 pm 47. Larry:

I think the focus on Ayers socialist agenda could be a red herring here. Think this though…

First and foremost, $49.2 million dollars from Walter Annenberg. How many grants did they disburse? Did all that money really get used up printing flyers and holding community meetings? I’ve volunteered in a few non-profits in my time, and the one thing they all had in common was their lack of cash. I guess I should have focused on the quality of their business cards instead of their policies. Given the extent of their activities, I fail to see how it is possible to spend the funds they raised.

On the surface, their organization provided a $49.2 million dollar tax deduction for Walter Annenberg. That’s a pretty handy service, and it can be provided for many entities, both individual and corporate. Just promise to generate the appropriate paper trail and you can claim to have received an incredible amount of charity from many sources. Say you charge a 20% fee for this service, and set about the work of generating the paper trail and recruiting new customers to the scheme.

The pyramid works in as second direction as well. In order to wash these phony donations and the real commissions, you will need to establish a network of new charities and groups to move the funds through. Fortunately, their financial reports aren’t audited by big 6 accounting firms like fortune 500 firms or high net worth individuals.

If you really want to dig into this, the papers in the archive are a first step. But only a first step. To really get things going, as per The Untouchables, find the bookkeeper. The financial wizard behind all this activity is certainly an artist, and one we’d love to meet.

Oh well, just some weird thoughts I thought I’d share.

Aug 22, 2008 - 10:52 pm 48. ReCon USMC:

Was Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers really just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” as Obama described him?
No !
not at all they had very close ties with their racial Socialist plans in both their racial anti American backgrounds .

If this does not Cook Obama’s Goose . There is no such thing as Fried Chicken or Intelligent aware American Voters .
Bill Ayers make’s David Duke look … ‘Formally’ of the KKK like a innocent young Quire Boy lighting candles . Since David Duke never bombed a Government building or Black Church , Pentagon or ever burned and stomped on the American flags repeatedly or gave endless speeches on how to hate anybody and a plan to destroy America . Bill Ayers and Oboma’s minister are equal in purpose as is Obama obviously since he is personally close to both terrible men for many years .
David Duke main goal was to end Black … Red , Yellow , Brown White or a given Nation before or in one’s name and race on any subject ….
like Black Miss America …
Since having a White Miss America contest or a White mind would be a terrible thing to lose would be deeded racist . As it should be .
Equality has no race color or title David Duke wrote . Who would disagree with that .Oboma ? And I would not vote for David Duke Oboma or Bill Ayers .
PhD Thomas Sowell calls himself a American that happens to be Black . And thank God his family was brought to America sold to the Dutch by many tribes in Africa never mentioned in the media or by Blacks . Since Thomas Sowell enjoys his cars , water out of a foist ,daily showers , TV’s, Refrigerator and freezers with loads of food along with his AC and well heated home . Not found in most of Africa he says often .
Thomas Sowell also writes you can see my color and hopefully my love for the greatest country ever on this earth …. America .
Bill Ayers never ever said that in fact he said the complete opposite about America as would any racial Socialist .Oboma is a racial Socialist as well .

Aug 23, 2008 - 7:43 am 49. Joshua:

Larry – “I think the focus on Ayers socialist agenda could be a red herring here. Think this though…”

What do you think motivated Bill Ayers, Dorhn and the Weather Underground to blow things up? Socialism my friend, actually Marxism, which advocates armed revolution. Go back and read the Communist Manifesto. I mean how much clearer does it get than to have Hugo Chavez call Bill Ayers down to his upstart communist country as an expert on “la educacion es de revalucion?” Translation: Shape the minds of the children and you can get the country to march lock step with your Marxist, communist, socialist methods. It’s like taking candy from a 3rd grader… actually it is taking candy from a 3rd grader! Socialism is not a red herring here, Socialism is the driving force here.

Larry – “Given the extent of their activities, I fail to see how it is possible to spend the funds they raised.”

Are you kidding me, this is CHICAGO POLITICS man! Barack and Ayers and the like come from a long line of Chicago grifters. They just happen to be some of the best white collar grifters Chicago has ever seen and that’s saying something!

Aug 23, 2008 - 9:00 am 50. Self-hating boomer:

David H Dennis – “I don’t think a friendship with Mr Ayers, in and of itself, disqualifies anyone from the Presidency.”

Would a friendship with David Duke disqualify one from the Presidency? What’s the standard? Are we playing Calvinball? Is there anyone at all who, as a friend, would become a disqualifier?

Aug 23, 2008 - 9:02 am 51. Believer:

Larry — I think we should consider Joshua’s words re “la educacion:”

“Translation: Shape the minds of the children and you can get the country to march lock step with your Marxist, communist, socialist methods.”

Just look at the success Frank Marshall Davis had with Barry.

Aug 23, 2008 - 10:04 am 52. Butter:

Another area that would be interesting to learn about is how ordinary it is to be Far Left in the Hyde Park, IL community and South Chicago. Michelle Obama especially grated on my values. How could she be so public with her ideas in an almost “Black Power” persona? The reason must be that in her Chicago world, this is ordinary, taken-for-granted behavior. Only in the larger milieu of the country as a whole did they sound off – way off.

Palmer, the lady that Obama “X-ed” off the ballot by challenging her petition signatures was a bonafied Communist who attended Communist Party functions and was ecstatic with the Soviet’s “accomplishments.” See http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/38046/

Although Obama’s candidacy is seen in terms of race, it is not fundamentally about race. It is about the subjugation of the producers (enslavement) to the whims of the unproductive masses.

Aug 23, 2008 - 10:40 am 53. Butter:

I’m now persuaded that the issue of race is a ruse in Obama’s campaign. The blacks are “the masses” used for Communist/Socialist purposes.

This is going to get distinguished because I don’t think for most people it is about race. It may be for some blacks and it is being underscored by Congressman John Lewis here in GA when he says that “he never thought he would see the day when a black man was a candidate for President” like that in itself is a value.

Obama has a history of walking on the backs of blacks to get political power. The results for the blacks he claimed to help have been negative and injurious. (I’m thinking of the worsened condition of the public housing after his work to get Rezko funded, the increase in crime in black neighborhoods following the bill he advocated and voted for to stop “profiling” when police were acting to stop crime in those neighborhoods, and the absence of results in his education project.

Notice further how he is stressing that the middle class, comprised of millions of blacks, is not going to pay higher taxes, ignoring the effects (because the economy is an integrated whole) of higher taxes on coroporations and the wealthy. His actions will hurt them as any other person in the economy and he could give a damn. It’s not the point of his candidacy. There’s no evidence that blacks have ever been anything other than a means to power for him.

And allowing unchallenged Obama and his campaigners’ to make charges or advocate action on the basis of race is what allows them to keep their cover in place.

Aug 23, 2008 - 11:21 am 54. goy:

@Josh’ -

So the “dumbing down” of America, as former Education Czar Bill Bennett called it, is a key component of the blueprint for socialism?

No, I no longer believe this is the case, although I did at one time. It certainly does seem that way – until one digs deeper. I think the reality is far more subtle and therefore far more difficult to expose. And I don’t subscribe to the notion that the schools became a “happy worker production mill” for the industrialists starting in the mid-19th Century either. IMHO that is an irrational proposition on its face. Unfortunately, a lot of home schoolers seem to subscribe to some variation of this notion, and quite honestly it comes off as rather crackpottish, which in turn provides media spin fodder for the narrative that nominally equates home schoolers with anti-government survivalists and militia types.

IMHO, the current failure rate in education is absolutely vital to this discussion, and I’d echo David Dennis’ comments (again – since it’s the thesis of my first post way up there) that the more ‘mundane’ aspect of this issue is ultimately far more important than the sensational scandal. A clever McCain campaign would use the latter to get people’s attention and then (further) illustrate Obama’s utter lack of credibility as a serious person, using the evidence in the former. BOTH of these speak to the personal integrity you’re never going to find in Obama’s empty suit, but the clearly stated goals of the Annenberg Challenge he chaired have significant portents for our nation’s future if we don’t wake up.

As noted above, an ignorant People are far too easily duped into mindlessly accepting despotic governance by supporting policies that “feel good” or “sound good” but which, once thought completely through, reveal themselves to be destructive on multiple levels. As a result we see support for things like the following:

- So-called “universal health care” – so-called because it’s actually nothing less than universally mandated comprehensive health care insurance, which is not, in and of itself, health care. Furthermore, this is a non-solution (an anti-solution, actually) to the problem of relentlessly skyrocketing health care costs, the root cause of which no one has ever seriously considered examining.

- So-called “windfall profits taxes” – so-called because when the State and federal governments receive up to ONE TRILLION DOLLARS for every $250B that is earned in profits by the oil companies collectively, it’s very clear WHO is receiving the windfall. Any thinking person would recognize immediately WHY the government is hesitant to kill this cash cow. No wonder we have seen exactly ZERO real effort on the part of our government to actively support replacement of the fossil fuels they claim are (suddenly) so “deadly” to the environment.

- So-called “cap-and-trade” scams – so-called because they neither cap overall emissions nor does the process involve actual trade. What these scams actually do is promote increased emissions insofar as it’s cost-effective to do so. In the bargain, it creates a gigantic, punitive slush fund that will be “managed” by – you guessed it – the government. Oh, and investment bankers, of course. All of this will naturally be funded by – you guessed it – the consumer, resulting in the loss of TRILLIONS in GDP by 2030.

The list goes on (and on, unfortunately), but the pattern is clear: increasingly onerous restrictions and punitive policies toward business and more and more individual, personal responsibility (and with it, personal freedom) handed over to the State. These are the fundamental underpinnings of socialism. But such a system is simply not mathematically viable over time. It’s just a Ponzi-choreographed fantasy/dance that goes endlessly on because, when it stops, someone will be forced to pay the piper.

Proof that America is well on its way in this evolution is the fact that our government must borrow the money needed to pay out the billion$ in entitlements we already have (SSI, SSDI, Medicare, etc.). Where does it borrow the money? In part it borrows – via T-Bills, their pension funds, savings (via banks), savings bonds – from the 30% of the overall population that is already paying almost 100% of all income taxes paid. Increasing the entitlements guaranteed by the government will ultimately overload that 30% of the population that is footing the bill for all 100% (plus). But long before that happens we’ll see a veritable police state, out of necessity. Thanks to liberal political policies and the race- and class-baiting tactics of the Democrat Party, the entitlement mindset is now most prevalent among minority communities – where crime, dysfunctional families, gang warfare, drugs, murder and the like are most prevalent. When that entitlement mindset becomes more the norm, don’t think for a minute that we won’t get all those other wonderful things that go along with it.

When Ayers admits that he shares “the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution” – La educacion es revolucion! – and exhorts the ed. community to recognize the “brilliance” of failed educators like Herbert Kohl – another whack-job more interested in “social justice” indoctrination than in actual, you know… education – it’s pretty clear why public education is in the state it’s in: Ayers’ and Kohl’s – and obviously Obama’s – sentiments are the rule in education today, not the exception. That, in a nutshell, is why academia is failing at all levels to produce literate, numerate, rationally competent, historically aware graduates.

So it’s not a blueprint, per se – the academic failure is a side effect. It’s pretty simple: one can’t teach math, symbolic logic, history and the vital classics if one is spending the entire semester forcing students to read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, write essays on every unsavory aspect of European and American History, out of balance with all the rest, and participate in collectivist group projects where 3 people do all the work and the other 7 smoke pot in the john.

p.s. – someone really ought to archive Ayers’ site, since with the media exposure he’s about to get, if there’s ANYTHING anywhere in there that connects him to Obama, it’ll likely disappear, if it hasn’t already.

Aug 23, 2008 - 11:22 am 55. Six Meat Buffet » A Party of The Trial Lawyers, By The Trial Lawyers, And For The Trial Lawyers:

[...] On official Obama letterhead with an implied threat that they will attempt to have their FCC license yanked for running a campaign ad that is well within the boundaries of facts and decency using an emaciated semantic argument that the ad links The Messiah to terrorism when the ad only links him to a known terrorist.  A terrorist with whom he has ample ties. [...]

Aug 23, 2008 - 12:36 pm 56. GeorgeWilliams:

Follow the Obama Machine makers and backers. Soros, Huffington, Ayers, Rezko, Alinsky, ACORN, mediamatters, moveon.org. What you will find is a group of people who want to take the United States down to its knees. Huffington, How to take down a government lover of Soros and infamous website huffington post. soros funds moveon.org, acorn, mediamatters and huffington post, with one goal and that is to take down the fascist government of the U.S. To create lies and media hysteria surrounding the two they fear the most, Bush and Cheney. To obfuscate and hush when truth is reported about their sordid, evil pasts. One world, one socialist world controlled by Obama and his group of cons.

Aug 23, 2008 - 12:55 pm 57. Believer:

I just hope Americans consider how much of the truth regarding this man and his life and associations has been hidden, lied about or wiped clean from the records. An appalling amount.

This is just the beginning of the evils I’m sure we’ll see should he have the power of the presidency. Remember he was both student and teacher of Alinsky methodology. And this rule was paramount: “The end justifies the means.”

Please. He is unqualified to be in a position of power. If his inexperience doesn’t disqualify him, his lack of character and judgment do.

Aug 23, 2008 - 1:46 pm 58. Lee:

I have a question:

If Obama won the election, what makes one think he would ever make it to inauguration?

Aug 25, 2008 - 1:52 am 59. Mary in LA:

Lee: If Obama were to win the election, as President-elect of the United States, he would have 24/7 Secret Service protection. That should count for something.

Why? Who do you think would try to off him at that stage? They’d just get President Biden for their trouble.

Aug 25, 2008 - 11:28 am 60. seah:

There are many records that are *cough* lost.

Want to bet Ayers, Daly or Obama already Cleaned out anything that would incriminate them?

Aug 26, 2008 - 8:58 pm 61. >bt: Barack Obama vs. Free Speech:

[...] four years, Barack Obama chaired an organization just after it was set up by Bill Ayers to advance his education agenda in Chicago. Ayers is clearly more than just “a guy who lives [...]

Aug 27, 2008 - 4:52 am 62. Mike:

You right wing republicans suck!

Aug 27, 2008 - 8:47 pm 63. GayPatriot » Obama’a Unanswered Questions (and Misleading Answers) on Bill Ayers:

[...] At the time of the show, Kurtz had just been granted access to archives of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge at the University of Illinois-Chicago. Bill Ayers co-founded that education reform group in 1995. Barack Obama chaired it from 1995-99. [...]

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:18 am 64. Silent Running » Blog Archive » Too clever by half:

[...] much deeper, much more extensive partnership (no, not in a legal sense) with William Ayers than he’d like everyone to believe, with greater scrutiny placed upon the agenda that Obama actively helped realize. At the risk of [...]

Sep 10, 2008 - 1:54 pm 65. Obama likened to Christ in congress! | Global Toad News:

[...] job Obama, keep up the good work and you might be working for as a community organizer again, spending 100+ million dollars with little o….  Oh, wait that’s what Senators do for the most part.  In any case, Obama doesn’t [...]

Sep 11, 2008 - 5:14 am 66. BREAKING NEWS: Obama is Ayers is Annenberg! « The Edge of the American West:

[...] begins, as Tom Maguire writes, “[a]t a White House event with Bill Clinton [where] philanthropist Walter Annenberg [...]

Sep 11, 2008 - 8:00 pm 67. LouiseCA:

Obviously, a real thoughtful remark here by Mike. To goy-it doesn’t necessarily take a high level of education to be aware of the dangers of Marxism and socialism. It just takes a willingness to read and dig for the real news, think for yourself and have some discernment-along with a close walk with the Lord. Some people just choose to believe a lie. It’s easier just to believe whatever they hear and go along with group think. We’ll see more of it as the days progress, especially if Obama is elected. If that happens, we won’t recognize America within four years.

Sep 13, 2008 - 8:51 am 68. Idkal » Blog Archive » Barack Obama vs. Free Speech:

[...] four years, Barack Obama chaired an organization just after it was set up by Bill Ayers to advance his education agenda in Chicago. Ayers is clearly more than just “a guy who lives [...]

Sep 14, 2008 - 5:08 am 69. A Good Start « Nice Deb:

[...] it’s time to revisit Rev. Wright, Ayers, and [...]

Sep 22, 2008 - 8:12 am 70. SUE:

WHY ARE WE NOT LOOKING CLOSER INTO THE REALTIONSHIP OF OBAMA AND AYERS? HOW CAN WE EVEN CONSIDER A MAN FOR PRESIDENT THAT HAS CLEARLY BEEN LINKED TO EXTEME RACIST AS WELL AS TERRORIST? I AM AMAZED THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE COMPLETLY CLOSED THEIR MINDS TO THESE ISSUES. FOR US TO THINK THAT THE SAFETY OF FAMILY AND COUNTRY SHOULD BE PLACED ON A BACK BURNER IS CRAZY!! IGNORANCE!!!!

Sep 27, 2008 - 8:08 am 71. Obama’s Radical Friends: Communists, Marxists, Corrupt Politicians, Racist Mentors « Sooshi Soo:

[...] Obama, Ayers, and the Annenberg Challenge Cover-Up [...]

Sep 29, 2008 - 2:01 pm 72. Obama fans can sleep well tonight « Annsnewfriend’s Weblog:

[...] you’ll have to find out the answer to that mystery somewhere else.  (The Times is going to soft peddle that later – after November — hint, hint [...]

Oct 4, 2008 - 2:47 pm 73. Socrates:

I don’t care if Obama DID pal around with this guy – for real! I’m still voting for him. I’ve been friends with some radical leftist hippies myself!

Oct 5, 2008 - 10:20 am 74. Yvonne Heinrichs:

I’m totally mystified as to why McCain and Palin haven’t focused on all these terorist association’s and activities Oboma’s had over the years. The Oboma ‘BO’ smells to high heaven.

Oct 5, 2008 - 4:15 pm 75. Obama/Ayers Timeline « Nice Deb:

[...] January 1995: Bill Ayers led the group that brought $49.2 million to Chicago and formed the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The kick-off in January 1995 was attended by the governor of Illinois and the mayor of Chicago, as well as many other luminaries. The first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was Barack Obama, a post he held until 1999 when he stepped down and remained on the board. Bill Ayers worked closely with the Challenge as a leader of the newly-formed Chicago School Reform Collaborative. [...]

Oct 6, 2008 - 10:26 am 76. Paul:

You guys only know half the story. The organization the they served on the board together on is named after Walter Annenberg Was A Conservative Republican Who Donated A Total Of $128,100 To Republican Candidates From 1981-2000
President Reagan Awarded Annenberg The Presidential Medal Of Freedom The Nations Highest Civilian Honor For His Philanthropic Work On Education.
Walter Annenberg Was President Nixons Ambassador To Great Britain From 1969-1974.
REALITY: CHICAGO ANNENBERG CHALLENGE PROPOSAL RECEIVED SUPPORT LETTERS FROM REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR JIM EDGAR AND THE DEANS OF EDUCATION FROM 16 CHICAGO AREA UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES
REALITY: OBAMA SERVED ON THE CAC BOARD WITH NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT ARNOLD WEBER, A FORMER ADVISOR TO NIXON AND REAGAN

Oct 9, 2008 - 8:14 am 77. Do Your Associates Hang Out With Hugo Chavez? « Quipster:

[...] http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-ayers-and-the-annenberg-challenge-cover-up/.  Obama, Ayers, and the Annenberg Challenge Cover-Up.  August 22, 2008. [...]

Oct 9, 2008 - 12:49 pm 78. Taylor:

Wasn’t Walter Annenberg a major contributor to the Republican Party, palling around with Republican presidents? Am I missing something? You can see many photos of him with Ronald Reagan and wasn’t he an Ambassador appointed by a (gulp) Republican?

Maybe the connection to examine is Barack Obama and Walter Annenberg? Could Barack really be a republican sympathizer, or maybe he just wanted an invite to Sunnylands to hang out with Annenberg and Frank Sinatra. Oh the conspiracy.

Oct 9, 2008 - 5:29 pm 79. Katherine:

The Chicago Fund was one of many funds established across the nation to improve education in the country. Ayers was in charge of that specific fund. Then Obama was chosen as Chairman. The Annenberg Foundation gave $500 million to establish education funds across the country. I don’t see how Annenberg has anything to do with it besides giving the money. He was a philanthropist and wanted to improve schools. And, Mr. Anneberg – now passed – is not running for President. Maybe we would question his giving of money and placing a former terrorist in charge of it. That was not a good idea. I think we are required on both sides to find all the information necessary about both candidates. The American people should be informed and doing their own research and checking the records of these two potential Presidents. I don’t know, just my two cents after reading through all this different information.

Oct 11, 2008 - 6:05 am 80. Derrick:

why are people so blind,or is that they don’t want to see or hear truth about Barack Obams,why no one havn’t confront him about is connection with ayres, and all the other dirty rats who is a part of stealing this election,George Stepphanolis is already in barack obama pocket,he is not the one to be interviewin him,because he is not fair to macain,palin or hillary,barack obama stole the election from hillary by playing the race card,and he and his organisation is doing the same thing to john macain,i’m a conservative,this election is one of the dirtiest election i’ve ever see.

Oct 12, 2008 - 10:58 am 81. Are You Worried About Socialism Taking Over Your Country? Join the Pitchfork and Torch Rally! « Facts Are Stubborn Things:

[...] Evidence suggests that the relationship may have begun as early as 1987. Bill Ayers’ father, Thomas, led a coalition for school reform in Chicago that was coordinated by Bill Ayers. One member of the Coalition was the Developing Communities Project, which you will recall, was directed by Obama from 1985-1987. [...]

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:07 am 82. Palin on Khalidi: Does it matter? » The Commentariat | SpecBlogs.com:

[...] course not–if Obama’s constructive ties to an unrepentant domestic terrorist aren’t swaying anyone, his ties to a one-time maybe [...]

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:07 am 83. But, Wait! There’s Less! or President Popeil « Natural Fake:

[...] had little or no executive experience unless you take seriously his argument that running for an executive position equals executive [...]

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