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		<title>By: Sylvie</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-bad-for-the-jews/comment-page-1/#comment-191361</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Obama has finally  been elected as President, there has not been the slightest hint of animosity  nor hatred for the Jewish people nor of the &#039;questionable&#039; existence of the State of Israel as yet. Infact neither has there been any passion  shown for the Palestinians except for the reminder of the fact that Palestinians  first have to accept their responsibilities towards implementing the Road Map by first recognising the existence of the State of Israel ...  and then also accepting all past agreements before a Palestinian State could be achieved. Indeed, for the time being anyway Obama  sounds &#039;fair play&#039; all round and whether it is only &#039;the Beginning&#039; is a question that might be answered in the not too distant future.  By the same token people do change sometimes and who may know if his visit to Israel last summer and the insight he may have gained during that experience of visiting the Holocaust Museum and the different historical sites  may have had some new influences on his until then, rather one-sided approach? We shall soon see ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Obama has finally  been elected as President, there has not been the slightest hint of animosity  nor hatred for the Jewish people nor of the &#8216;questionable&#8217; existence of the State of Israel as yet. Infact neither has there been any passion  shown for the Palestinians except for the reminder of the fact that Palestinians  first have to accept their responsibilities towards implementing the Road Map by first recognising the existence of the State of Israel &#8230;  and then also accepting all past agreements before a Palestinian State could be achieved. Indeed, for the time being anyway Obama  sounds &#8216;fair play&#8217; all round and whether it is only &#8216;the Beginning&#8217; is a question that might be answered in the not too distant future.  By the same token people do change sometimes and who may know if his visit to Israel last summer and the insight he may have gained during that experience of visiting the Holocaust Museum and the different historical sites  may have had some new influences on his until then, rather one-sided approach? We shall soon see &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Morast</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-bad-for-the-jews/comment-page-1/#comment-76139</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Morast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WILD WITH FEAR..... That&#039;s what you people are... Has any of you brilliant people read his book &#039;Audacity of Hope&quot;?  I bet not,,, as a Christian he knows that he is just GRAFTED IN to the chosen people of Israel and God has special plans for His people....  And in the Bible it does state.. Those that bless Israel will be blessed, and those that curse Israel will be cursed... If you don&#039;t believe me, just look at history and the countries and civilizations that have been destroyed for hurting Israel...

Obama is not out to hurt Israel... and, by the way, if you didn&#039;t know it, 

HE IS NOT A MUSLIM...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WILD WITH FEAR&#8230;.. That&#8217;s what you people are&#8230; Has any of you brilliant people read his book &#8216;Audacity of Hope&#8221;?  I bet not,,, as a Christian he knows that he is just GRAFTED IN to the chosen people of Israel and God has special plans for His people&#8230;.  And in the Bible it does state.. Those that bless Israel will be blessed, and those that curse Israel will be cursed&#8230; If you don&#8217;t believe me, just look at history and the countries and civilizations that have been destroyed for hurting Israel&#8230;</p>
<p>Obama is not out to hurt Israel&#8230; and, by the way, if you didn&#8217;t know it, </p>
<p>HE IS NOT A MUSLIM&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: philz</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-bad-for-the-jews/comment-page-1/#comment-67259</link>
		<dc:creator>philz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s election and his policies may actually be a wakeup call for the Europeans, the Israelis, and even the Arabs, who will no longer be able to rely upon the U.S. as a shield/supporter against the bad guys like Iran.  The result could be a stronge Europe militarily, an Israel that finally does what it must do to the Palestinian Arabs to stop their aggression against Israel, and the Arab states may actually decide to cooperate with Israel against Iran and Syria.  This may be the great plan from above as there is no way we should even be taking aboout a lightweight nothing like Obama as a serious candidate for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s election and his policies may actually be a wakeup call for the Europeans, the Israelis, and even the Arabs, who will no longer be able to rely upon the U.S. as a shield/supporter against the bad guys like Iran.  The result could be a stronge Europe militarily, an Israel that finally does what it must do to the Palestinian Arabs to stop their aggression against Israel, and the Arab states may actually decide to cooperate with Israel against Iran and Syria.  This may be the great plan from above as there is no way we should even be taking aboout a lightweight nothing like Obama as a serious candidate for President.</p>
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		<title>By: In Excess Of Demand &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama and the Jews</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Excess Of Demand &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama and the Jews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   Ed Lasky has written an excellent article on Obama and the Jews: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: myna</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-bad-for-the-jews/comment-page-1/#comment-66337</link>
		<dc:creator>myna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why elect Obama Messiah? Just elect George Soros, he is the mastermind. Obama is surrounded by Soros&#039; associates. We do not need a proxy. Elect Soros instead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why elect Obama Messiah? Just elect George Soros, he is the mastermind. Obama is surrounded by Soros&#8217; associates. We do not need a proxy. Elect Soros instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Hold_That_Tiger</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-bad-for-the-jews/comment-page-1/#comment-66211</link>
		<dc:creator>Hold_That_Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This opinion piece is what I thought it would be: half truths and innuendos. It is weak beer indeed.

&quot;for our most dependable Middle East ally.&quot;

For whom 2 spies have been prosecuted in the last 30 years...and those were the ones we caught. Why does our &quot;closet ally&quot; in the middle east spy on us?

&quot;He has also said that he has been in the “foxholes” in Chicago with his Jewish friends trying to heal the rifts between the African-American and Jewish populations. There is absolutely no proof of any of these claims.&quot;

And the &quot;proof&quot; of most of your assertions are no where to be seen either.
 
&quot;the Woods Foundation, a charity with a broad mandate&quot;

Their foremost mandate is fighting poverty.

&quot;(Obama) has singled out two figures  demonized by anti-Semites, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, as being responsible for the Iraq War. This despite the fact that Perle was not in the government and George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld were the key figures and decision-makers.&quot;

Is this a joke? It is clear, from the many investigative pieces, written since 2003, that Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, et.al, did have undue influence on the prosecution of the War whether they were offically in the Government or not.

&quot;His use of the term “separation barrier” or “wall”  rather than the far more commonly used “security barrier” has apartheid-like connotations.&quot;

It seems to me that YOU are the one giving the term &quot;barrier wall&quot;, etc. an apartheid connotation, although if we are being honest the Wall is de facto a &quot;seperation barrier&quot; not to mention that once again, Palestinan Land has been confiscated to build parts of the barrier.

&quot;(Israeli removal of all settlements from Gaza has not resulted in peace.)&quot;

Maybe the fact that Gaza is maintained like the Warsaw Ghetto has something to do with the lack of &quot;peace.&quot;
 
&quot;this seems to be Obama’s approach to the Iranian problem, only with Iran, he believes that they will give up their nuclear program if America will just negotiate with them to reach an agreement to let them have the nuclear weapons.&quot;

Oh please, Obama never said that &quot;just talking&quot; to the Iranians would take care of their Nuclear Ambitions, but talking first (yes even without pre-conditions) is certainly better than threatening them with the &quot;Obliterate&quot; button ala Clinton and McCain. Cold War Era Politics are simply not working any longer...the fact is that going into Iraq has emboldened Iran and weakened our &quot;friend&quot; Israel. BTW, Ronald Reagan actually did speak privately to Gorbachov before Communism imploded (they corrosponded with Letters.) Reagan knew that you could catch a fly or 2 with Honey instead of vinegar. Need more proof that &quot;talking&quot; can make a positive change? Look at the Bush Administration&#039;s success with North Korea this past week; diplomacy should always be the first line of defense..(someone needs to wake McCain up to this fact before he bomb,bomb,bombs Iran.)

Obama would rather keep Iran from going Nuclear and diplomacy is on the table, but military action, he has made clear, will always be an option, In short, Obama promises to &quot;speak softly but carry a BIG stick.&quot;

Personally I&#039;m an American Firster who actually doesn&#039;t give a rat&#039;s patoot about  protecting Israel, especially at the cost of American lives, that said, I believe that Obama meant what he said at AIPAC: he will continue the strong relationship between the US and Israel that Harry Truman got rolling 60 years ago (a mistake, IMO, but I digress.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This opinion piece is what I thought it would be: half truths and innuendos. It is weak beer indeed.</p>
<p>&#8220;for our most dependable Middle East ally.&#8221;</p>
<p>For whom 2 spies have been prosecuted in the last 30 years&#8230;and those were the ones we caught. Why does our &#8220;closet ally&#8221; in the middle east spy on us?</p>
<p>&#8220;He has also said that he has been in the “foxholes” in Chicago with his Jewish friends trying to heal the rifts between the African-American and Jewish populations. There is absolutely no proof of any of these claims.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the &#8220;proof&#8221; of most of your assertions are no where to be seen either.</p>
<p>&#8220;the Woods Foundation, a charity with a broad mandate&#8221;</p>
<p>Their foremost mandate is fighting poverty.</p>
<p>&#8220;(Obama) has singled out two figures  demonized by anti-Semites, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, as being responsible for the Iraq War. This despite the fact that Perle was not in the government and George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld were the key figures and decision-makers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this a joke? It is clear, from the many investigative pieces, written since 2003, that Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, et.al, did have undue influence on the prosecution of the War whether they were offically in the Government or not.</p>
<p>&#8220;His use of the term “separation barrier” or “wall”  rather than the far more commonly used “security barrier” has apartheid-like connotations.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems to me that YOU are the one giving the term &#8220;barrier wall&#8221;, etc. an apartheid connotation, although if we are being honest the Wall is de facto a &#8220;seperation barrier&#8221; not to mention that once again, Palestinan Land has been confiscated to build parts of the barrier.</p>
<p>&#8220;(Israeli removal of all settlements from Gaza has not resulted in peace.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe the fact that Gaza is maintained like the Warsaw Ghetto has something to do with the lack of &#8220;peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;this seems to be Obama’s approach to the Iranian problem, only with Iran, he believes that they will give up their nuclear program if America will just negotiate with them to reach an agreement to let them have the nuclear weapons.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh please, Obama never said that &#8220;just talking&#8221; to the Iranians would take care of their Nuclear Ambitions, but talking first (yes even without pre-conditions) is certainly better than threatening them with the &#8220;Obliterate&#8221; button ala Clinton and McCain. Cold War Era Politics are simply not working any longer&#8230;the fact is that going into Iraq has emboldened Iran and weakened our &#8220;friend&#8221; Israel. BTW, Ronald Reagan actually did speak privately to Gorbachov before Communism imploded (they corrosponded with Letters.) Reagan knew that you could catch a fly or 2 with Honey instead of vinegar. Need more proof that &#8220;talking&#8221; can make a positive change? Look at the Bush Administration&#8217;s success with North Korea this past week; diplomacy should always be the first line of defense..(someone needs to wake McCain up to this fact before he bomb,bomb,bombs Iran.)</p>
<p>Obama would rather keep Iran from going Nuclear and diplomacy is on the table, but military action, he has made clear, will always be an option, In short, Obama promises to &#8220;speak softly but carry a BIG stick.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;m an American Firster who actually doesn&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s patoot about  protecting Israel, especially at the cost of American lives, that said, I believe that Obama meant what he said at AIPAC: he will continue the strong relationship between the US and Israel that Harry Truman got rolling 60 years ago (a mistake, IMO, but I digress.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s top foreign policy advisor is and has been Dennis Ross who is considered a friend of Israel.  Congressman Howard Berman (Chair of the House Foreign Relations Committee)says he has worked closely with Obama and they share the same outlook on the Middle East and that Barack Obama has been and will be a strong supporter of Israel&#039;s.  The newspaper Haaretz recently published a report saying that intelligence agents had advised the Israeli government that Israel may have some problems in the first year of an Obama Presidency because some of those on the left that are supporting him don&#039;t realize how strong his support for Israel is and there may be a backlash when they figure out that he means what he says and that Obama is the strongest supporter of Israel to run for President this year.   Some of these statements may be too strong, but if so, they are no different than what is in Mr. Lasky&#039;s article.  Why not let it go that Obama has a consistent record of supporting the Jewish state and that some people are worried because of his ethnicity and family background that when he gets into the top job, he might be different than he seems.  That&#039;s a very fearful way to look at the world, but it&#039;s the only thing that justifies nonsense like this column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s top foreign policy advisor is and has been Dennis Ross who is considered a friend of Israel.  Congressman Howard Berman (Chair of the House Foreign Relations Committee)says he has worked closely with Obama and they share the same outlook on the Middle East and that Barack Obama has been and will be a strong supporter of Israel&#8217;s.  The newspaper Haaretz recently published a report saying that intelligence agents had advised the Israeli government that Israel may have some problems in the first year of an Obama Presidency because some of those on the left that are supporting him don&#8217;t realize how strong his support for Israel is and there may be a backlash when they figure out that he means what he says and that Obama is the strongest supporter of Israel to run for President this year.   Some of these statements may be too strong, but if so, they are no different than what is in Mr. Lasky&#8217;s article.  Why not let it go that Obama has a consistent record of supporting the Jewish state and that some people are worried because of his ethnicity and family background that when he gets into the top job, he might be different than he seems.  That&#8217;s a very fearful way to look at the world, but it&#8217;s the only thing that justifies nonsense like this column.</p>
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		<title>By: Selecting Dots - The Art of Misrepresentation &#171; Republican Jewish Coalition Watch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selecting Dots - The Art of Misrepresentation &#171; Republican Jewish Coalition Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Republican Jewish Coalition wants to tell everyone that they are &#8220;connecting the dots&#8221; when it comes to Obama and Israel.  They try to stress that what they are doing is putting together relevant facts that need to be &#8220;considered&#8221; rather than dismissed.  But when the RJC seeks to examine a record like Obama&#8217;s they never talk about the whole picture.  They ignore Obama&#8217;s voting record on Israel-related bills, disregard Obama&#8217;s actual mideast advisors like Dan Shapiro and Dannis McDonough, and make bold and often unsourced claims about Obama&#8217;s viewpoints [1]. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Republican Jewish Coalition wants to tell everyone that they are &#8220;connecting the dots&#8221; when it comes to Obama and Israel.  They try to stress that what they are doing is putting together relevant facts that need to be &#8220;considered&#8221; rather than dismissed.  But when the RJC seeks to examine a record like Obama&#8217;s they never talk about the whole picture.  They ignore Obama&#8217;s voting record on Israel-related bills, disregard Obama&#8217;s actual mideast advisors like Dan Shapiro and Dannis McDonough, and make bold and often unsourced claims about Obama&#8217;s viewpoints [1]. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Fred.  I&#039;m Catholic too and I feel the same way.  Israel is our ally and the only democracy in a terrible neighborhood. We must stand by her.

I wouldn&#039;t say that anti-Semitism is entirely dead among Catholics, but there are many friends of Israel among us.  Please don&#039;t judge us all by Pat Buchanan.

I support McCain in large part because of his stance on security and foreign affairs.  And yes, it is frustrating to talk to Jews who are star-struck over Obama.  

I know some very smart Jews.  Are they politically smart?  

Not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Fred.  I&#8217;m Catholic too and I feel the same way.  Israel is our ally and the only democracy in a terrible neighborhood. We must stand by her.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that anti-Semitism is entirely dead among Catholics, but there are many friends of Israel among us.  Please don&#8217;t judge us all by Pat Buchanan.</p>
<p>I support McCain in large part because of his stance on security and foreign affairs.  And yes, it is frustrating to talk to Jews who are star-struck over Obama.  </p>
<p>I know some very smart Jews.  Are they politically smart?  </p>
<p>Not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homer,

We Catholics do not teach Jew hatred anymore.  Not at all.  I know, because I&#039;m old enough and involved enough to straddle the old, pre-Vatican II world and the post-Vatican II world.  In the early grades of my Catholic school experience, we were never taught Jew hatred.  Plus, I found out recently that in Germany at that time it was not uniformly propagated.  Most of the teaching of Jew hatred happened outside of church, in the neighborhoods and associations, but not all of them.  Objectively, the Jew hatred was more intense in the Protestant and the atheist sectors.  And that included the Communists and the socialists too.

Has the Church fessed up to the role it played in Jew hatred?  Yet it has.  Has anyone else publicly admitted as much and publicly apologized as often?  No.

Israel matters to me because of a variety of reasons.  But let me set the record straight to those Buchananites on the board:  loyalty to America does not mean one has to be hostile towards Israel.  Israel is an underdog in a region full of jackals baying for Jewish blood.  It was so long before the formation of the state of Israel.  Hello?  Hajj Amin al Husseini anyone?  As in, a Muslim Arab who went to Hitler to get an entire SS Division (Handschar) for himself to use in Europe to wipe out Jews in the Balkans.  Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East (another reason).  It is an outpost that stands guard against the hoards of Allah&#039;s minions.  Plus, I DO believe they are God&#039;s Chosen People.  Jesus Christ and the New Testament do not change that one iota.  God has a purpose for these people, and if some of them hate themselves, well that&#039;s their problem.  We can support them, but if Israelis and their American cousins do not want to defend themselves, well there&#039;s nothing we can do about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homer,</p>
<p>We Catholics do not teach Jew hatred anymore.  Not at all.  I know, because I&#8217;m old enough and involved enough to straddle the old, pre-Vatican II world and the post-Vatican II world.  In the early grades of my Catholic school experience, we were never taught Jew hatred.  Plus, I found out recently that in Germany at that time it was not uniformly propagated.  Most of the teaching of Jew hatred happened outside of church, in the neighborhoods and associations, but not all of them.  Objectively, the Jew hatred was more intense in the Protestant and the atheist sectors.  And that included the Communists and the socialists too.</p>
<p>Has the Church fessed up to the role it played in Jew hatred?  Yet it has.  Has anyone else publicly admitted as much and publicly apologized as often?  No.</p>
<p>Israel matters to me because of a variety of reasons.  But let me set the record straight to those Buchananites on the board:  loyalty to America does not mean one has to be hostile towards Israel.  Israel is an underdog in a region full of jackals baying for Jewish blood.  It was so long before the formation of the state of Israel.  Hello?  Hajj Amin al Husseini anyone?  As in, a Muslim Arab who went to Hitler to get an entire SS Division (Handschar) for himself to use in Europe to wipe out Jews in the Balkans.  Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East (another reason).  It is an outpost that stands guard against the hoards of Allah&#8217;s minions.  Plus, I DO believe they are God&#8217;s Chosen People.  Jesus Christ and the New Testament do not change that one iota.  God has a purpose for these people, and if some of them hate themselves, well that&#8217;s their problem.  We can support them, but if Israelis and their American cousins do not want to defend themselves, well there&#8217;s nothing we can do about that.</p>
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