Obama Is the ‘Arrogant, Dismissive, and Derisive’ One
The president's comments in Europe are the most classic case of projection exhibited by an American president to date.
While in Strasbourg, President Barack Obama told an audience in a townhall meeting that America needs to change its attitude toward Europe. He said America was wrong for not celebrating Europe’s “dynamic union” and not seeking “to partner” with them to better address the “common challenges” that face our nations. He even went so far as to say past American policy was misguided because it had “shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive,” an obvious rebuke of former President Bush. The president made these highly critical comments of his own country on foreign soil in an effort to “rebuild” the transatlantic relationship between the United States and Europe by offering an olive branch.
The president’s comments were greeted with cheers. They were described as electrifying and inspiring. And they are the most classic case of projection exhibited by an American president to date.
Just a few days ago in a meeting with American CEOs of American banks, President Obama’s tone and attitude were rife with the arrogance, dismissiveness, and derision he had just criticized in Europe. A participant in the meeting told Politico that when the CEOs tried to explain that the nature, complexities, and competition of the finance and banking industries required that they continue retention bonuses for their employees, the president became impatient. He interrupted them and said, “Be careful how you make those statements, gentlemen. The public isn’t buying that. My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks.”
The imagery behind Obama’s threat couldn’t be more obvious: comply with my demands or I will make sure you are harassed, intimidated, and run out of town on a rail. He made them an offer they couldn’t refuse. Don Corleone couldn’t have said it better.
We can not forget, however, that it was Barack Obama himself along with his fellow Democrats who agitated this mob-like frenzy about the banks, the CEOs, and the bonuses. It was Obama who said the bonuses were an “outrage” and a “violation of our fundamental values.” Democrat Barney Frank hauled AIG’s CEO in front of the House Financial Services Committee and interrogated him, demanding to know why he approved the hundreds of millions of dollars of bonuses. Conveniently, Congressman Frank failed to mention that the approval was inside the very stimulus bill Obama championed and the Democrats overwhelmingly voted for.
This wasn’t the first time Obama bared his political teeth. Back in January he responded to the House Republicans’ concerns about not having enough tax cuts in the stimulus package with an arrogant and dismissive “I won.” Karl Rove reported in a recent Wall Street Journal column that Obama told fellow Democrat Rep. Peter De Fazio that he needed to watch his political backside after he voted against the president’s stimulus package: “Don’t think I’m not keeping score, brother,” he warned him.
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1. Delia:We have a self-serving, self-loving, selfish megalomaniacal turd who thinks he doesn’t ’stink’ in office.
Is it any wonder the ‘zero’ worships himself so fervently? He is full on LOONY TOONS and the rest of the world is laughing and pointing.
We’ve got a twatty, whimpy school bully as POTUS. “I won”? I want to puke at the immature gravity of such childish statements.
What next? “I am rubber, you are glue?”
Seriously? Could it get worse? The smiling, giggling douchebag is off the rails. It’s offical. We the people have NO VOICE.
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:30 am 2. Minerva:Compounding it is how the press still sucks up to Obama and Michelle. Havent’ heard “President” used so much in eight years.
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:33 am 3. MiamaMan:I am not surprised about this. I always knew Mr. Obama was arrogant, among other bad qualities that I don’t even want to mention here, and that he tried hard to hide in his so-called autobiography, where he went about re-inventing himself for political gains.
What is disturbing is that many other people, which will be most affected by his lunacies, could not see through him, would not take the time to investigate him, now in the era of the Internet, for there was a lot of information about his inventions, half-truths, lies, associations, put is simply: “Tell me with whom you hangout, and I will tell who you are”.
But then as French diplomat Joseph Marie de Maistre cynically said: “Each country has the government it deserves”. And I, even though did not vote for him, live in that country, the country where the miasma of ACORN and other like minded organizations and individuals, seem now to reign.
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:37 am 4. Sebastian Shaw:President Obama is ignorance, arrogance, & incompetence in one single package; his is the incarnation of the Political Left given human form. With these three weaknesses, Obama is also on limited time given the public will wake up to fact that unemployment is rising, despite Obama’s grab for absolute power.
I do agree that when Obama called America arrogant that he was really talking about himself, but he cannot see that.
What happens when Obama’s popularity plummets? Or his Telepromter stops working? Or something unexpected happens which Obama did not see coming? I think he will default to Nancy Pelosi, Michelle Obama, & Karl Marx.
Obama’s illusion is built on eggshells & sand. Once shattered, he will not be able to put himself back together in his prefab state. The masque is already off. People just have to see Obama for what he is: A wannabe dictator.
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:38 am 5. tanstaafl:A personal style of arrogance and an attitude of derisiveness towards America are definitely hallmarks of this President.
(I would submit that the former is a function of personal weakness and the latter a function of a vision of himself as Grandiose Transnationalist, but those arguments can be for another day)
You should watch Charles Krauthammer in last Friday’s panel, linked here…
In order to gain the adoration of the crowds, he denigrated his country in a way that I think is disgraceful
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:46 am 6. Jbl:Obama agitates because that is what community organizers do.
We are so screwed.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:09 pm 7. Perry:I think it may be called projection… “attributing your own repressed thoughts to someone else” (us Americans). Why would he think it unless he weren’t there himself? And her, too, pawing the Queen??? I bet they giggle every night over the fawning.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:15 pm 8. D Foster:We can only think that “America” will wake up and see Obama and his Chicago Cronies, for what they are. Big Government Spending Liberals,
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:17 pm 9. Sherab Zangpo:This will be difficult because the majority of voters are not informed to the commercial world. How else do we end up with a “Electric’
Car as our future for GM and Ford. Electric cars with no additional Electrical Power Plants in our future. There is no Energy plan in Washington.
When we have the likes of Pelosi, Durbin, Reid, Leahy, Frank, etc, etc in Washington.
Plus, what ever a Republican is these days, will need to convince the Conservatives, there is a future. I do not see anyone on the national scene, that can form the required political base for gaining a majority. We can only hope Congress gains some influence and places controls on Obama and Pelosi. this is only 2009, April, there is a long calender before the voters can have a consideration to Liberalism and Obama.
There are a lot of voters making a living within the Liberal Government System. All vote Democrat. It will take a special leader to be successful and elected.
“…He even went so far as to say past American policy was misguided because it had “shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive,”…”
At Omaha Beach for example.
Depending from which sacrifices WE had spared, the crowd in Europe would speak only German or only Russian.
They never really thanked us.
And now we have a “President” who hates America as much as any European lefty(-and/or-)nazi.
Truly excellent.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:18 pm 10. Still Bill:Kim: Are you talking about kow-tow Obama. He bent over so far in the presence of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, I thought he was going to fall on his Kenyan-born ass. This clown is an absolute disgrace to this country and to the office of the Presidency.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:19 pm 11. Anonymous:His attitudes, ideas and beliefs are wrong. We are in trouble.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:27 pm 12. Still Bill:And to you so-called journalists (i.e., leftists propagandists) out there. How come we didn’t see any coverage of our fraudulent President kow-towing to a King of one of the most repressive regimes in the world? I thought the clown in the White House was actually going to kiss the King’s “you know what”. Our country was disgraced, and the main stream propagandists are covering up for Obama once again. I hope you all go bankrupt. You’re worthless.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:31 pm 13. tanstaafl:The community organizer point is valid, see Barack Obama’s behavior & words as, essentially, an extension of the pressure tactics of an ACORN agitator. (as an attorney, Obama defended ACORN & later ACORN contributed heavily to the Obama campaign in the primaries)
Now, it’s possible that Obama doesn’t want to relinquish the measure of control he has gained over the banking system.
Obama Wants to Control the Banks
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:34 pm 14. RabelRabel:The Washington Post’s revelations about the shell companies that Obama’s treasury Department is setting up to avoid the bonus restrictions could lead to a different interpretation of the Politico quote. The important part of that quote is not the “pitchfork” reference, it is this: “Be careful how you make those statements, gentlemen. The public isn’t buying that.”
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:39 pm 15. TomF:He seems to be referring not to their statements to him defending the bonuses, but rather to their public statements. He was encouraging them to minimize their public objections to the restrictions in order to let the shell game play out without undue public attention. In other words, he wasn’t trying to intimidate, but was encouraging their collusion in the possibly illegal scheme to avoid the bonus restrictions.
Obama has a naive idea that the rest of the world is supposed to be our buddies. It is apparent that he does not know what the world thinks about America. Europe has been very arrogant and dismissive, even derisive in respect to America for a lot longer than the last eight years. True diplomacy is built on mutual respect, not kowtowing to European interests.
He is so bent on gaining the approval of others (Europe and the world) at the expense of the American people. He seems to exclude himself from the rest of America.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:39 pm 16. LeighB:Yet again our President is a disgrace to the office he holds and to our country. I must have been taught a different version of history in school, I seem to remember it is the USA who has put lives on the line to defend Europe again and again and again. Several of my relatives are buried in France not because they were over there apologizing for the USA but because they gave their lives for a greater cause.
And can someone please get Mrs. Grievance some better clothes? I am embarrassed by her too, cardigans with dresses? WTF?
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:43 pm 17. kentuckyliz:BHO:
GFY!
All right, someone, start printing up the T shirts.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:44 pm 18. LeighB:OK, I am really irritated about this…is someone willing to call him unpatriotic? If you like Europe so much better than this country, Obama, move there. I will be happy to contribute a fair amount of money to help you relocate. Go already. Buh-bye.
Apr 5, 2009 - 12:48 pm 19. D. Grant Chee:Obam undermined the sacrifices of the dead U.S.
Apr 5, 2009 - 1:10 pm 20. Scott:soldiers, soldiers killed in France while
freeing France from Nazi occupation, those
men (solsdiers)are buried in France and the
French patriots know obam is a liar and very
unimpressed by America’s true treatment of
Europe and Europeans. President obama could have taken the European tour opportunity to build on U.S. Euro relations without stabbing
our country in the back to do it. Obviously Obama has an agenda we have yet to comprehend!
So… when did The Dixie Chicks start writing Obama’s speeches?
Apr 5, 2009 - 1:14 pm 21. Sebastian Shaw:I have re-dubbed the mainstream meda (MSM) the Fellatio Media when they talk about President Barack Obama; reading or talking, they sound like little high school girls swooning over a teen star instead of being objective journalists. It’s disgusting to watch. The “journalists” still have no clue why they losing viewers.
Apr 5, 2009 - 1:29 pm 22. El Gordo:Apologies, blaming of America, bashing his predecessor – all this is no way to represent your country abroad. It is unprofessional. Obama is our President, not UN General Secretary (yet). He is using his power for self-aggrandizing gestures at our expense.
It doesn´t work. You get no credit from foreign governments. They have their own agendas which they won´t give up because of a speech. And the public doesn´t respect self-flagellation. Sure, they will say good things about Obama but they will be vindicated in their contempt for America. Nice for Obama, bad for America.
Apr 5, 2009 - 1:55 pm 23. Tonya:This article only further demonstrates my theory on Politicians and Prostitutes and how their actions are similar. It seems they will say anything and do anything by selling themselves.
If they want to sell their words, buy their words, lie with their words so be it, but why must they sell our country out with their words?
I think the words of “Hope and Change” are becoming bittersweet to many. The new words are sounding bitter, and we hear and see the arrogance of a bitter administration and bitter speech writers overwhelming us more and more everyday.
So far all they have are words and a huge deficit to pay back.
Apr 5, 2009 - 2:05 pm 24. Andrew Ian Dodge:Arrogant & dismissive is a way to cover up for his complete lack of abilities to do his job. I pondered and wrote about my worry he was Carter Mark II and surely enough he is proving me right quickly.
Apr 5, 2009 - 2:06 pm 25. Войска ПВО:..so, tanstaafl, Still Bill, Sherab Zangpo, Sebastian Shaw, MiamiMan, David Thompson, Marc Malone..
..and especially you, Delia..
What are you going to do about it? Are you (we) going to sit here for the next two-three years and write about our disgust for this sack? Or do we take up the cause and actively become involved in seeing that his ass is tossed out into the street in November 2012 and that the crudballs who caused this are turned out in 2010?
You all should remember that a group of very brave individuals stood up to the then only world superpower on 19 April 1775, and started the ball rolling. They had no guarantees of success and faced far more than we face if they were defeated. Yet, they stuck to it and began the birthign process that brought forth this nation.
(Please understand, I do NOT advocate armed rebellion or insurrection against this country nor the federal — or state — government. I say that if we are to get this done politically, then we’d better “cowboy up” and git rollin’ and not rely on those who merely read our words and nod in agreement. Acton talks and bullsh*t..well..it reads from a teleprompter.)
Apr 5, 2009 - 2:11 pm 26. drjohn:“The public isn’t buying that. My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks.”
And who was it who stirred up all that animus?
Apr 5, 2009 - 2:12 pm 27. Ozzie:I found interest in Germany’s leader, Merkell. She was unswayed by Obama, and skeptical. I know exactly why. The Germans have experience with “great orators” who want to confiscate guns, nationalize and control industry and rule by fear and intimidation. I would imagine any German leader would be ’skeptical’ of a “great Orator” with a cult of personality who wants to build a personal , well equiped civilian ‘army.’
Apr 5, 2009 - 2:19 pm 28. Sebastian Shaw:I was too young during Jimmy Carter’s term from 1976-1980. Although cable was new & the Big 3 networks–ABC, CBS, & NBC–still had clout, was Jimmy Carter such a total disaster as Barack Obama has been?
I think Barack Obama is going to be remembered for being worse than Jimmy Carter given he is a staunch ideologue Marxist. I am just glad Obama is incompetent…!
Just think how much damage would Obama being if he was a competent Marxist…
Apr 5, 2009 - 2:23 pm 29. Dave:Arrogant, Dismissive, and Derisive sums up Bush quite aptly.
You people clearly are unable to see yourselves in the mirror.
Apr 5, 2009 - 2:23 pm 30. MiamaMan:Here is the disgraceful bowing of Obamin to the King of Islam,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JGK-xbXxMw&feature=related
Next to him, non other than Don Quixote, Mr. Shoemaker (Zapatero), the coward president of Spain that owes his presidency to an Al Qaeda bomb.
Apr 5, 2009 - 2:50 pm 31. misanthropicus:For a daily exposures to lunacy, one can always examine the Huffongton Post front pages.
Apr 5, 2009 - 3:25 pm 32. AThinkingPerson:Dave… Ever considered actually reading the article before posting? I know that gathering information before forming an opinion is not how liberals operate but you ought to try it once. Might give your posts more depth.
Apr 5, 2009 - 3:35 pm 33. Jon:What a surprise – the most powerful politician on the planet plays politics, and has a big ego. You must lead an angry, frightened little life if you find reality that difficult to deal with. Maybe that’s why your article lacks a single constructive comment, just knee jerk reactions to a bunch of words from someone you didn’t like anyway.
It’s kind of weird that you think the President shouldn’t play hardball with Wall Street CEOs. With so much of their personal money and reputation at stake, do you think that being all polite and respectful would have gotten him anywhere? You’re either lying to yourself or just damned stupid.
Maybe some people would be impressed that you’re able to judge a man by his words before the results of his actions have played out. Me, I find it hateful and ignorant. Especially when we’re in a situation everyone knows a lot of smart people didn’t see coming, and don’t see an easy way out of.
People like you have spent the last eight years helping run America into the ground. Time to let somebody else take over, with ideas different to the failed ones you like, and have the decency to keep quiet for at least six months while they try to get us out of the deep hole you dug.
Apr 5, 2009 - 3:37 pm 34. Meryl:Look at Sarkozy laughing at bambi, as bambi bows before his king.
Apr 5, 2009 - 3:40 pm 35. Will:Barak Hussien Obama is a charismatic master of deception and deflection. One doesn’t have to be smart to see Obamas adgenda,It isn’t in America’s best interest. By the way Jon,Kim does have a way of understanding what our president is doing.
Apr 5, 2009 - 4:06 pm 36. v for victory:Thanks for a good critique.
Harvard boys are like that: arrogant and ignorant.
What he accuses these other people of doing — derision etc. — is actually what he is doing except that it’s OK for him to do it. I have seen these snobbish Harvard boys by the thousand.
But the think nobody catches is that he is weak. He is not a standup man. Everytime he derides GWB, it means he is PWN’d. If he were standup, if he took ownership of the situation, he would get on with being president and would not need to trash his predecessor. Instead, he makes excuses.
Obama is PWN’d.
Apr 5, 2009 - 4:21 pm 37. Bade Science:The one minute history of my family:
Apr 5, 2009 - 4:21 pm 38. Still Bill:Within the last several hundred years, my ancestors said “You know what, Germany sucks. We’re out of here.” They left.
Various and sundry adventures occurred.
Then, they or their offspring ended up here in the United States, and said “How cool is this?”.
And now I’m here.
So I’m pretty sure I owe Europe in general and Germany in particular nothing, unless they want to prove to me that they don’t suck anymore. They’ve had several hundred years to change my attitude, and I remain unimpressed.
#32 Jon: You sound like a typical brain-washed college student. Obama is a joke in the world community. North Korea just thumbed their nose at Zero. Iran has thumbed their nose at Double Zero. They realize this guy is all teleprompter talk, and that’s it. What Gertrude Stein once said about Oakland, California: “there’s no there there”, you can also say about Triple Zero in the White House. Any President who kow-tows to a dictator ought to be impeached. So now we have two reasons to impeach Quadruple Zero: He kissed a dictator’s “you know what”, and he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.
Apr 5, 2009 - 4:30 pm 39. sule:Speaking of judging a man’s action:
Barry Soetero’s previous 20 years were spent absorbing the racist Rev. Wright’s rants, nut job Bill Ayer’s directions on community organizing (read: ACORN) and don’t forget Barry’s own chicago thug tactics (30 (that’s THIRTY) lawyers sent to Alaska to dig up dirt on Sarah Palin?) used to obtain a senate seat, and next, the White House…
Teleprompter Barry’O is somebody’s Milli Vanilli, I’m betting that he’ll be exposed.
Apr 5, 2009 - 4:33 pm 40. Jim Baker:The teleprompter pres is a tool. People who voted for this are the fools.
Apr 5, 2009 - 4:54 pm 41. Sebastian Shaw:Jon, I will take your straw argument & pull them to bits:
“What a surprise – the most powerful politician on the planet plays politics, and has a big ego. You must lead an angry, frightened little life if you find reality that difficult to deal with. Maybe that’s why your article lacks a single constructive comment, just knee jerk reactions to a bunch of words from someone you didn’t like anyway.”
It’s fine to have a healthy ego, but President Obama is a malignant narcissist literally craving approval & adulation at every turn & usually at America’s expense.
“It’s kind of weird that you think the President shouldn’t play hardball with Wall Street CEOs. With so much of their personal money and reputation at stake, do you think that being all polite and respectful would have gotten him anywhere? You’re either lying to yourself or just damned stupid.”
President Obama has absolutely no business dictating to banks & other businesses what they should do at his command. This is what we call a Free Market System, capitalism.
President Obama should be freeing up the credit, shrinking the Federal Government, & cutting taxes to move us out of this recession; thus far, Obama is using this crisis for a naked grab for power absolute. President Obama is slowly turning into Dictator Obama.
“Maybe some people would be impressed that you’re able to judge a man by his words before the results of his actions have played out. Me, I find it hateful and ignorant. Especially when we’re in a situation everyone knows a lot of smart people didn’t see coming, and don’t see an easy way out of.”
President Obama’s words mean nothing. His actions are where to look. Thus far, Obama has ignored most of his campaign rhetoric to date including a tax cut for 95% of all Americans & not placing any former lobbyists in his administration. There’s countless other examples too.
“People like you have spent the last eight years helping run America into the ground. Time to let somebody else take over, with ideas different to the failed ones you like, and have the decency to keep quiet for at least six months while they try to get us out of the deep hole you dug.”
More Bush Derangement Syndrome. President Obama is putting gasoline on a fire with his Socialism plans. He wants to take the power away from the people & put it in the hands of the few elites: This is antithetical to the very foundation of America itself!
Go suck on your passifyre now & go sulk you angry little thing.
Apr 5, 2009 - 4:55 pm 42. tanstaafl:http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-is-the-arrogant-dismissive-and-derisive-one/comment-page-1/#comment-25
It’s a good question you ask, and (flattery alert) I appreciate your writing here & elsewhere.
…then we’d better “cowboy up” and git rollin’ and not rely on those who merely read our words and nod in agreement.
I honestly don’t know what form action takes at this point, given that what’s left of an opposition in Congress seems to be rolling over on its back and sticking all 4’s in the air, as the disassembly of the Republic continues unabated.
I’ve never seen such an assignment of powers to the Presidency, Obama decides to do this (lift travel restrictions on Cuba, fire this CEO, demand this or that state take TARP $ when the state has said it doesn’t want that money), and, I wonder, when and how did all these unilateral kinds of powers come to be attached to the Executive ?
It’s beyond my comprehension, how unbalanced the powers of government seem to have become.
Until I know how to move, I’ll write here, and elsewhere. Then, when it becomes clear, I’ll join the tax revolt or whatever form of revolt becomes clear.
Apr 5, 2009 - 5:12 pm 43. tanstaafl:People like you have spent the last eight years helping run America into the ground.
Your President spent the past week doing exactly that, denigrating this country and apologizing for America so the Europeans would like him.
Obama tried to win over the crowds, and Europeans cheered his negative remarks about the country he purports to represent. But they likely know (even Sarkozy)* that he’s a sap.
(*Sarkozy, during the campaign, reportedly called Obama’s Iran views “…’utterly immature’ and comprised of ‘formulations empty of all content’”), although France later denied Sarkozy said those things)
Apr 5, 2009 - 5:32 pm 44. MiamaMan:Войска ПВО,
You got a point there, doing something about this disgraceful situation. Actually, I was thinking about escaping to Bulgaria for a while, where I own a couple of properties, and they are all paid for, I am a little tired of this BS.
That’s why I asked you if you were Bulgarian before, because Войска ПВО, Boiska PVO, means Army PVO, I like the name. No, I ain’t Bulgarian myself, but I like how ineffective the government is there and how clean the mountains and streams are, and the fact that the country is underpopulated. Muhovo, Inthiman, a couple hundred people and 1,000 goats, not a sound at night. Zdravti!
Apr 5, 2009 - 5:57 pm 45. Khiri:12. Still Bill
Bravo, my friend!! The MSM has got to go! And the people who think they’re unbiased complain about biased, state-run media in other countries? Do they really think what we have is better? It truly frightens me that people believe what they say as unbiased truth. Critical thinking is becoming as rare as common sense.
41. Sebastian
Thank you for taking on Jon’s “facts.” I’d like to add one point: Zero (I love that!) is not interested in saving the economy! As you said, he is using the tanking economy (thanks to the Demorats for that. Yes, that means you, Carter, Clinton and Frank) “to take the power away from the people and put it in the hands of the few elites.” The worse the economy gets, the quicker and more ferociously he’ll take control over everything.
As for you, Jon, go read “Atlas Shrugged.” If you’re not frightened of what the terrible trio (Obama/Pelosi/Reid) are doing to this country, then you’ve drank so much Kool-Aid, you’re better off standing off to the sidelines and let the thinking people save your ass.
Apr 5, 2009 - 5:57 pm 46. Sherab Zangpo:#25
You write:
“What are you going to do about it?”
Me ?
First I am going to pray for all of us, that we may open our hearts and minds to the Wisdom WHO (and not “that”) can lead us out of the darkness.
Then, I will keep working to subvert the subversion that has obscured and hidden the Sacred Tradition, and that means that I will keep hunting for the heart of the beast, for the nihilist folly that has made of the world the playing ground for hosts of demons.
It sounds a tad abstract, I know, but it is the most important thing to do now.
And I dare say that everyone who is honestly worried for our Country should do exactly what I do, i.e., assert again ALL THE FULL MEANING of
“…ONE NATION, UNDER GOD…”.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
Apr 5, 2009 - 6:15 pm 47. donttreadonme:The Daily Trader Classifieds
Europe: Willing to swap gifted Marxist reader of LCD screens for six-pack of Pilsner beer, a bon vin rouge, and a Eurail Pass. All sales final. Will carefully pack and ship within twenty-four hours of payment confirmation. Paypal accepted. Will throw in his wife for free. Shipping extra for wife – two trips necessary to haul her fat ass.
Apr 5, 2009 - 7:11 pm 48. bear:Most people I talk to that voted for Obama have changed their minds. He’s quickly losing his mandate, but a few still carry the mantle…Jon is one. Still using the campaign rhetoric that was burned into their collective subconscious.
Apr 5, 2009 - 7:16 pm 49. Delia:25. Войска ПВО,
Suggestions, hon? I’m all ears! I don’t drive and I work from home but even if I can help out with a website or something and volunteer my time I’m more than willing.
Apr 5, 2009 - 7:32 pm 50. Oscar the Grump:Folks, our messiah is visiting Turkey tomorrow. Let’s see what wonderful things he does and says there.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if he returned Cypress to Turkish rule? Maybe he’ll find a way to help the Turks crush their Kurdish rebellion. This is so heady it brings back the wonderful days of the Armenian massacres. Maybe he’ll visit that wonderful mosque, St. Sophia.
Apr 5, 2009 - 8:35 pm 51. DaveinPhoenix:It’s easy for this creep to piss on the graves of the thousands of dead U.S. servicemen who died defending Europe in the World Wars. We won. Maybe, just maybe, we have earned a right to feel a bit arrogant.
Apr 5, 2009 - 8:35 pm 52. Fat Man:A girl campaigning for BO came around to my door last fall. I asked her what she liked about Obama. She said he was intelligent and unlike President Bush, he would listen to everyone and make up his mind after due deliberation.
I would say that she got pwned.
Apr 5, 2009 - 8:45 pm 53. Delia:52. Fat Man,
LMFAO! Pwned indeed!
Apr 5, 2009 - 8:51 pm 54. Dave (the usual Dave..not the arogant leftist posting above):I’m not sure it is possible for this guy to be more clueless. I REALLY disagree with some of President Bushes domestic decisions, but he was right on the mark with with foreign policy. Iraq/Afghanistan (without the fog of idiocy provided by the MSM) is a no-brainer and his desire to get the Euros on board without bending to their completely misguided agendas was the right call.
Now we have a President who completely makes out country pliable to leaders that absolutely could care less for our country or anything but their own narrow interests.
If this guy is not reigned in come 2010, the price we pay will be huge.
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:10 pm 55. Tonya:Our military knew the press was holding back and not letting the American public know the truth. Many of our military knew that Bush did not lie, they believed in the war and they knew he found all of the yellowcake outside of Bagdad. I believe that Bush could not tell the world what he found when you have Iraq’s evil twin Iran wanting to get their hands on the nuclear weapons.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/
And now our President bows to them?
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:24 pm 56. Andy:We are in over our heads, and I have believed it from the moment the media turned into some insane tool for Pelosi and the rest of her kind.
Do you know that some in the military say the word Pelosi instead of the word shit when they cuss?
“Don’t give me any of your Pelosi”, because President Bush did not lie.
Blah blah blah
Get over it you Repulican losers …..
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:25 pm 57. Andy:Your opinions are totally irrelevent and most are arm chair quarterbacks. Bush waisted billions and yet did he capture Bin Laden. You guys must be a terrific mind readers, since for the last 8 years, Bush can even articulate his agendas, let alone the US policy in the world stage.
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:30 pm 58. Andy:Your opinions are totally irrelevent and most are arm chair quarterbacks. Bush waisted billions and yet did he capture Bin Laden? You guys must be a terrific mind readers, since for the last 8 years, Bush can’t even articulate his agendas, let alone the US policy in the world stage.
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:31 pm 59. Dave:Another Dave here:
Obviously Obama has ethnic identity disorientation.
Just because his name ends in a vowel, he thinks he can get away with all this stuff.
Truth of the matter is that he wouldn’t raise a blemish on a Sicilian posterior.
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:33 pm 60. sandra:Bring him on!
what a stupid article. Vicious for no good reason. We finally have somebody there in office with more intelligence than a fruitfly, who seems to be everywhere, reassuring everybody after the mess the republicans created and that has left thousands of people bereft, who goes out there and gives our standing in the world a much needed uplift, and all he gets from kim are some stupid allegiations of arrogance and dismissiveness. Very ironic considering that Obama is probably the least arrogant and dismissive president we had in decades. Maybe his intellect is intimidating for some? Maybe you should show a little bit more gratitude to the man that is trying to fix the mess your loonies left behind?
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:34 pm 61. Maggie:This must be the night for “idiot comments”.
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:35 pm 62. Shari:I’m surprised that you let so many of them out at the same time!
*****I honestly don’t know what form action takes at this point, given that what’s left of an opposition in Congress seems to be rolling over on its back and sticking all 4’s in the air, as the disassembly of the Republic continues unabated.*****
Weasels most of them. Suggest flooding congress, senate and the GOP with emails and attending tea parties. Keep writing in blogs and pray that this nation survives this presidency in a condition that can be salvaged by his replacement, if he is not impeached first.
Right now it’s what can we expect from him and his cabinet each day that seems to be incrementally worse than what he’s done the day before. His useful idiots (MSM, Hollywood. college professors, union members, activist organizations, etc.) are zombie-like in agreement no matter what he says or does. Their bumper stickers define them in ways they may not very
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:40 pm 63. Steve:much appreciate.
Obama has all of Jimmy Carter’s weaknesses plus a reckless arrogance that promises to get him into grave trouble. For all his foolhardy beliefs Jimmy Carter at least had a certain humbleness, he never harbored any illusion that he was some kind of messainic figure who could transform the world. Obama has no such inhibitions.
Obama is nothing more than Jimmy Carter on steroids.
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:50 pm 64. Войска ПВО:MiamaMan writes:
“Войска ПВО..I am a little tired of this BS..That’s why I asked you if you were Bulgarian before..”
I am sorry to have missed your question. No, I am American and was, during the Viet Nam war, a Captain in the USAF working at Strategic Air Command Headquarters. The sobriquet Voyska PVO is from the name given to the Soviet Union’s Air Defense Force who were — arguably — my opponents at the time. It is a name I culled from my reading one of many Tom Clancy books and I guess I adopted it out of some sense of perversity. Also from some sense of irony because our staunchest allies in Europe are those who were formerly behind the Iron Curtain. They know the value of the liberty that BOOBUS POTUS is busy squandering.
Sebastian Shaw asked if Obama ia as bad as Carter was and my opinion is that he has exceeded that sorry sack’s performance in two short months with the capper being what Carter seemed to do so well: deprecate our country to the rest of the world.
That was the last straw for Carter (discounting his decimating the military to the point where they could not mount a rescue attempt of the hostages) and, despite the stranglehold that the three networks had on public information, the consummate disgust caused him to be soundly defeated in 1980.
What is written here by yourself, tanstaafl, Rachel Peepers, Delia, and others is significant and very moving. I just wanted to remind you that it will take action on our parts to effect change like what happened in 1980 and 1775.
(Again with the disclaimer: I only advocate peaceful and legal means of bringing this about.)
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:53 pm 65. Abbey:It’s always been so interesting to me how certain folks with regressive attitudes aften label African Americans as “arrogant” if they excel at what they do. Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Oprah Winfrey…..think long and hard about what word comes to your mind when you think of these famous personalities. Is President Obama arrogant because he has the nerve to be confidant and has succeeded in his life in spite of being African American? Or is he arrogant because he is a successful African American?
Apr 5, 2009 - 9:59 pm 66. Войска ПВО:Whatever the case, it’s interesting the words chosen by you to magnify and therefore misconstrue, include “arrogant”.
49. Delia writes:
“Suggestions, hon? I’m all ears! I don’t drive and I work from home but even if I can help out with a website or something and volunteer my time I’m more than willing.”
Backtrack on some recent PJM posts here and get in touch with your soul mate Rachel Peepers. She left her e-mail for you and said she was resigning from the field of battle. Contact her and contact me (k6whp at socal.rr.com) and join some erzatz committees of correspondence if it is your pleasure.
Both Rachel and I admire your writing greatly!
Apr 5, 2009 - 10:00 pm 67. Yolonda Y Carson:You people are crazy….don’t like it…move…I did from 2004-2008.
Apr 5, 2009 - 10:10 pm 68. Rachel Peepers:The first taste.
It was a foreshadowing I detected that time Eric Holder first spoke nonsense.
Like projectile vomiting, it came out of Eric Holder’s mouth a couple of months or so ago when Eric the terrible had the temerity to call Americans cowards.
Me thinks it also had another meaning.
Being Holder’s special way of announcing that Barack Obama’s pre-election talk about civilty and unity needed a pitchfork stuck in it; because it was done. It had served its lying political purpose. Then Barack’s crazy talk started revving up like a drag racer’s engine.
Whining on and on about why times are so troubled. Placing the blame on everything American. From greedy capitalists to closet racists to the desire to fight terrorists. Then the centerpiece of Barack’s little buffet was brought out. The scapegoating of the Horatio Alger American from rags to riches success story. The attack on capitalism had begun.
These days, Obama chooses his words from a menu rife with anti-American, anti-Bush, anti-military, anti-business, scapegoating entrees.
On foreign soil serves up this slop as he pounds the drumbeat of avaricious, bonus-getting CEO’s being the main cause of America’s economic troubles.
Apparently, Obama is a reader of German history because the kind of scapegoating Obama has such a rich appitite for is precisely what Hitler force-fed to the German people when talking about the “rich, selfish Jews”.
Hate-mongering, fear-mongering, implicit and explicit threats and violence. It’s Obama’s dish dejour in 2009, but the recipe is old as Nazism.
Devide America. Devide the American people.
Between the have and have nots. Richer and poorer. Old and young.
But don’t forget to play good cop, bad bop.
After you demonize the rich, then turn around and tell the rich; “I, Obama, am the only thing standing between you and a steady diet of pitchforks wielded by oppressed Americans.” While on foreign soil, Obama’s lynch mob metaphors liken average Americans like you and me to people ready to hold a neck tie party. Interesting racist connotations that Obama freely uses because he believes his skin color innoculates himself against backlash.
I swear, Obama is so full of hot air and night is day doubletalk that I can’t tell Obama from shinola.
Kim Priestap aptly and skillfully puts it this way.
“It seems the president is trying to play both sides of this issue. On the one hand, he wants to continue to stoke the populist outrage set ablaze by the lavish bonuses; on the other hand, he is trying to help the CEOs keep those same lavish bonuses.
This epitomizes arrogance, dismissiveness, derision, and duplicity toward the American taxpayers and his own party. The president was elected with the grand expectation that he would transform the way Washington does business, but his new scheme of circumventing Congress is nothing more than the old policies of the Chicago political machine. If President Obama keeps it up, he may find the pitchforks with which he threatened the CEOs pointing at him”.
For me, the Bama man’s duplicitous nature is like a free floating chemical radical ready to bond with anything lacking an element of decency, honesty and truth.
He implies (I don’t look like the guys on your money) racism will be used against him. Then is patently racist whenever it’s to his benefit.
He promises a new kind of Washington, one without earmarks, lobbyists and backroom shenanigans.
Then passes a gigantic, larger than life stimulus bill that’s stuffed with earmarks up the wazoo. And, incidentally is part of his plan to bankrupt America.
He says he’s for the troops one minute, then the next is pitching a plan that makes wounded solders coming back from laying their lives on the line lay out their own money for operations that are needed to heal their wounds. “No Bama. Say it ain’t so”. But it is.
No kidding. I could write all night giving you outrageous examples of BO’s duplicitiousness. Double- dealing. Fundamental misstatements of fact. Or outright lying.
Producing examples of Obama’s disingenuousnes and
mowing them down is easier than sitting on top of Fox Hill near Udam-ni Korea on 27 Nov., 1950 and mowing down onrushing hords of chinese troops with a freezing Marine index finger curled around the trigger of a trusty Browning Automatic Rifle.
Respectfully as I aim to be, if any of you still support this sorry, lying, corrupt, hate-filled, anti-American sack of horseradish excuse for a President known as Barack Obama, then either you’re Keith Olbermann, Billy Mahar, or you need serious therapy; an entire department of the best Austrian pyschiatrists thinking for months and even years only about you.
Oh, I forgot to mention something about me. I’m back.
Apr 5, 2009 - 10:27 pm 69. richard:Thanks for the messages. I needed them.
Rachel
How many stupid people respond to the blog .. COUNT THE ABOVE .. YOU ASSHOLES LOST SO GRT A LIFE.. 2016 might work loosers.
Apr 5, 2009 - 10:35 pm 70. injunjoe:I think we need to dump the whole lot of them. 435 Representatives, 100 senators, a V.P. and President; let’s change all of them out and let them stand in the unemployment line awhile. I will be at the Tax Day Tea Party, let’s make sure all friends and family are aware of it. I speak with my friends and none have heard of it because the local stations refuse to acknowledge its existence and will not speak of it until it actually happens.
Apr 5, 2009 - 10:39 pm 71. FromTexas:To Delia:
Let me quote you: “It’s offical. We the people have NO VOICE.”; as a matter of fact the people do have voice, and that voice elected the president. Saying “I won” is not child talk but a simple statement of fact. And the fact is that he won, the people’s voice selected him over someone else. Did these people elect his ideas? I’m not going to debate something that has no ending, but the voice of the people allowed those ideas.
The “I won” is just a remainder for the conservative side of the country that, at this time and date, the voice of the people elected a liberal. A big percentage of the people doesn’t like it, they voted against it, and that is fine… It’s called a democracy, the majority wins: liberals won, conservatives lost.. live with it.
To Sebastian’s “It’s fine to have a healthy ego, but President Obama is a malignant narcissist literally craving approval & adulation at every turn & usually at America’s expense.” How so? Seems like you don’t follow international politics, let me put you up to date: Nobody cares about America’s position anymore. It has been a while, but when Bush pushed the war in Irak without international support was the last straw. Germany, China and Russia they are all ready to take the position that once belonged to America, and that was lost long ago. Obama, by acknowloging that we lost our “world leader” position is actually taking big steps to, eventually, reclaim it.
To all of you that will flame my spelling and gramma, please do so, but add some ideas to your posts, would you?
Thanks for allowing my post.
Apr 5, 2009 - 10:42 pm 72. Oscar the Grump:I can’t believe that we got a president who bowed down and kissed a camel jockey’s jewels.
Apr 5, 2009 - 10:42 pm 73. dd:you guys just shut up and give obama a chance. he has been in office less than 100 days and you guys are expecting wonders. why didn’t you same idiots demand the same of bush who was driving this country in the wrong direction. the problem with you stupid white people is that you vote for a black person just to say you are not prejudice. all the time you are praying that he fails in his position. well idiots, if he fails, the country fails. so support what he is trying to do, fix the economy, have better relations with other countries, etc. and shut up. and yes, he did win. so get over it.
Apr 5, 2009 - 10:58 pm 74. Tristan:Why does an artical critical of Obama produce a hate fest? Shouldn’t we look at all our leaders with a critical eye regardless of what party they represent? Also, Obama has been associated with being liberal even though the evidence (aka his voting record) points to the contrary.
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:02 pm 75. Johnson:Wow, this has to be the biggest clutter of one-brain-celled people I have ever encountered. So, you are criticizing Obama, and do you even know why? Have you even taken a quick peak at the state of the economy? and what brought us to this state?
Keep watching Fox News, keep trying hard to fry that last brain cell with their propaganda. This is hilarious.
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:12 pm 76. Bruce Peterson:Europe loves Obama, of course they do. He says we were arrogant, what about Europe? When Bush wanted to go in united against sadaam, they said no, except for a few. the rest were making money with Sadaam. When Bush wanted help to rebuild Afganistan, they said no. Whne Bush wanted the UN to do something in the Sudan massacres, Europe said no. It seems they love it when we come over there and help them, like WWI, WWII, Nato, Iron curtain. But when anyone else needs help, they say ‘no way’. Obama does not need to apologize for Bush, Europe needs to apologize to the US, our soldiers, and the peopel of Iraq, Afganistan, Sudan, etc.
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:17 pm 77. pb:Neo-cons have a short memory. Bush 41 was pictured holding hands with the Saudi ruler..big whoop BHO bowed!! The guy’s been in office about 2.5 months..Gimmme a break! this crisis we’re in will take time to correct. Given the banking collapse, I wonder what would be said if Bush 43 had passed that Social Security (cash grab) initiative he failed to get thru! The past admin. knew this recession was coming…That’s why Paulson walked away from Goldman-Sachs (with his $500 Million bonus!!) Then took Bush’s stimulus ($350M, at least) and doled it out to themselves!! i bet G-S doesnt get a “haircut”!!
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:18 pm 78. pb:That should read $350B….as in billion for the banks..
Apr 5, 2009 - 11:21 pm 79. Jason:65. Abbey:
It’s always been so interesting to me how certain folks with regressive attitudes aften label African Americans as “arrogant” if they excel at what they do. Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Oprah Winfrey…..think long and hard about what word comes to your mind when you think of these famous personalities. Is President Obama arrogant because he has the nerve to be confidant and has succeeded in his life in spite of being African American? Or is he arrogant because he is a successful African American?
Whatever the case, it’s interesting the words chosen by you to magnify and therefore misconstrue, include “arrogant”.
No, I think you’ll find that it’s YOU who finds Obama’s skin color relevant, not us.
YOU are using Obama’s skin color in a pathetically transparent attempt to invalidate all criticism against him, by claiming that the only motive for said criticism is resentment for Obama’s ethnicity.
Read the article and subsequent comments – not one person mentions his skin color, until you came along and chose to throw it into the mix in the tedious way that liberals always do when they sense they can’t win an argument with ideas.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:19 am 80. Jason:67. Yolonda Y Carson:
You people are crazy….don’t like it…move…I did from 2004-2008.
No you didn’t.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:20 am 81. Marcus:Finally America gets a president who is acceptable to the world (which, we Americans need (the world) to support our economy by buying stuff we manufacture in the USA), and (finally) we are seeing a president who can RULE despite the political right tearing at him (left & center as well, for that matter). Yet, we Americans go out of our way to concentrate only on his image in his first 90 days in office because we don’t like the way he looks or his foreign origins (although we are all foreigners in fact). For God’s sake let’s give the man a chance to do something about five years of economic circus which preceded his rule. Let’s be realistic when we view the world’s opinion of us and ask ourselves..why we are viewed so negatively…
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:27 am 82. Tri Geek:Abbey- Nobody here has said anything about Obama’s race. That is a lefty thing. Arrogance is arrogamce, period. I can’t ever imagine calling Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan arrogant. ALL of my conservative friends absolutley admire both of these man. Both have worked extremely hard to attain their successes. They have both taken personal responsibility for their lives and successes, and this is what a conservative admires most. Take your racist trash and go slink away.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:29 am 83. Tri Geek:Yolanda- The difference between libs and conservatives: Libs will leave the U.S. if they don’t like it. Conservatives, love the U.S. too much to run away. Most of us have already spilled blood to defend this blessed country, unlike Libs who think planting a “peace pole” is all that is needed.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:34 am 84. Jason:60. sandra:
what a stupid article. Vicious for no good reason. We finally have somebody there in office with more intelligence than a fruitfly, who seems to be everywhere, reassuring everybody after the mess the republicans created and that has left thousands of people bereft, who goes out there and gives our standing in the world a much needed uplift, and all he gets from kim are some stupid allegiations of arrogance and dismissiveness. Very ironic considering that Obama is probably the least arrogant and dismissive president we had in decades. Maybe his intellect is intimidating for some? Maybe you should show a little bit more gratitude to the man that is trying to fix the mess your loonies left behind?
But Sandra – Obama is not particularly intelligent. He’s simply another talking head cut from the leftist academic cloth – well versed in a carefully learned repertoire of shopworn slogans and rhetoric, yet completely lacking in the kind of universal prudence and wisdom required to make sense of the geopolitical theater. That’s before we even begin to dissect his complete lack of understanding of economics and business.
One thing I’ve learned about liberals over the years is that they delude themselves into thinking that academic qualifications are some kind of guarantee of general intelligence and sound judgment, when in fact it is quite possible to become academically successful by simply learning parrot fashion the prepackaged word flow required to pass exams, i.e. to impress other academics by their own standards. Look around the world of academia and you’ll find an extraordinary number of cases of learned people with qualifications who are nonetheless in possession of a lousy sense of judgment, a poor understanding of human nature and an almost pathological tendency to misinterpret things out of their proper context and to confuse emotion with reality.
And no, not everybody is “reassured” by Obama. If you claim he is then perhaps you’d like to back that up with some kind of proof.
Furthermore, I’d seriously like to know when you liberals are going to get over your obsession with the idea that our “standing in the world” should be our top priority, especially since most of the rest of that world consists of countries which deny their citizens the most basic human rights and in which people are afforded no liberty and no democracy. What is it about their judgment that you find so compelling that you believe its satisfaction should be the goal of America? The trouble with the left is that they are fixated upon the template that “they” have some kind of ancient wisdom and that “we” are always wrong. Please, get over this nonsense.
Obama is the “least arrogant and dismissive President we’ve had in decades?” What figment of your imagination do you base that assessment on? I see a President who has an unprecedented arrogance which is wholly undeserved and inappropriate.
Nor are we “intimidated” by his intellect. I’m not sure who you’re trying to impress with these scintillating arguments. No, we’re not grateful for his disastrous attempts to fix the mess left overwhelmingly by the policies and actions of Democrats. Have some self respect.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:38 am 85. hawkeye:to the many liberals posting here. first, be glad that you live in the usa, where, you are free, to speak in a boisterous sea of liberty. secondly, just as a suggestion, go, stand in front of the mirror, place your hand on your heart, and say aloud;” i pledge allegiance to the flag, of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible , with liberty and justice for all.”
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:53 am 86. lee:Barack Obama’s not smart, friends. We shouldn’t confuse eloquence and charisma (some would disagree wtih even that) with intelligence.
I don’t care what Bush did the last eight years. He’s gone. Obama’s the president now, and every president has to deal with recessions that he inherited. Bush admittedly left us in trouble, but Obama’s not taking the right steps to get us out of it. He’s been real good at continuing George Bush’s bailout scheme, that being his final mistake.
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:45 am 87. john from cinncinatti:66Abbey: in spite of being African American?
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:33 am 88. Marcia:is it a handicap? successfully arrogant because;certain folks with regressive attitudes?hmmmmm do you call them “those people”? so what is the issue BHO being black or someone looking close at his words. maybe because he had the audacity, to speak for me, when i didn’t give him permission. i’m not going to apologize for my attitude, I am an American, you, BHO, and Europe can kiss it.
To all you people quoting the “under god” from the pledge of allegiance should know that stupidity was added in the 1950’s. Your god sure has been looking out for the interests of the little people!!! Quit hiding under religion! Misguided religious beliefs are responsible for a good deal of the world’s ills, past and present.
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:36 am 89. Sapwolf:This a-hole will not make it to a second term. He is an arrogant street punk.
A Palin/Romney ticket in 2012 will take him out easily after the messes he gets us in.
The MSM will not be able to hide these tactics forever.
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:56 am 90. Emma:LeighB:OK, I am really irritated about this…is someone willing to call him unpatriotic? If you like Europe so much better than this country, Obama, move there. I will be happy to contribute a fair amount of money to help you relocate. Go already. Buh-bye.
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I’m willing to call him unpatriotic, and I’ll donate to the cause. If he promises to move to France specifically, I’ll even hold a fundraiser.
(And to the people who run this board – can’t you please give us the ability to use quote tags?)
Apr 6, 2009 - 3:42 am 91. A lawyer & soldier:To all of you Obama-haters: get over the fact that he won or get out. Had McCain-Palin won, I would have done just that. I would have resigned my military commission, given up my law license, sold my house, and moved to another country because after GWB literally drove this country into the biggest hole we’ve seen since the Great Depression, McCain-Palin would have advocated policies that would have only driven us deeper. President Obama is doing a fine job domestically and internationally. And to focus on one side of his Strausbourg speech is to do what right wing media continues to do: focus on the negative. President Obama (and for the idiot who complained about the constant use of the word president for the President, you are about as stupid as stupid can get), criticized both America for its at-times arrogant and derisive attitude while simultaneously criticizing Europe for its anti-American sentiment despite all the good that American has done for the world. He then implored both Americans and Europeans to see the good in the other. What’s wrong with that? I checked my arrogance at the door. Obviously, some of you haven’t.
Apr 6, 2009 - 4:22 am 92. Punisher:Wow, I stumbled on this site. Never knew how many morons there still are left in America. Then again, I guess most of you don’t read beyond a third grade level. Please move to China where you don’t need to “think”. Either that, or just listen to the drug addled Linblow make self rightous pablum. Please keep your thoughts to yourselves however as you are scaring the children.
Apr 6, 2009 - 4:36 am 93. Ed Wallis:Also excellent on just this topic:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/04/those_arrogant_americans_1.html
Apr 6, 2009 - 4:36 am 94. Abigail:Ignorance abounds which is quite evident from these radical, statements. Repubicans, bigots like the skinheads, and other hate groups who have nothing better to do with their time other than write this clap trap. It’s disgraceful, not to mention immature biased bigotry of the worst sort. How gratifying it must be to write, read comments of other just as sick minded as themselves. Other countries have continued to make strides in human and civil rights. While this country remains bogged down in their stupid prejudices. Most of the comments here are too ridiculous to address.
Apr 6, 2009 - 4:38 am 95. Michael O'Brein:I see Pajamas Media has made been put on the Obama-bot radar. They’ll be swarming here now, with their attempts to intimidate, ridicule, and silence till it becomes just way too much trouble to bother with a comment here. That’s what the desperate do, you know, when they don’t have a real justification or defense.
Apr 6, 2009 - 4:56 am 96. Horace:Wow, this is where the defeated, angry conservatives hang out. Now we just have to put a fence around it.
Apr 6, 2009 - 5:20 am 97. doubledge:Four years won’t pass quickly enough. The onslaught has begun. We the people are shafted until we can come up with VIABLE third, fourth and even fifth political parties. Democrats not included. Send your kids to political school.
Apr 6, 2009 - 5:25 am 98. check frank:If you all people were so patriotic as you put on you’d be constructive in your comments -not destructive!
The same for Kim Priestap.
Apr 6, 2009 - 5:33 am 99. STACY BEZNER:So if the president talks to the Turkish leader, the subject of Armenian genocide, and Greek genocide, and Syrian genocide, etc. shouldn’t come up. Why? Historians know it happened. If Turkey had been made to respond after World War I, Hitler may not have killed the Jews. Wake up!
Apr 6, 2009 - 5:53 am 100. STACY BEZNER:The Armenians and Greeks and Syrians are not pleased. Why are we playing kiss up?
Apr 6, 2009 - 5:55 am 101. Mac:You people who voted for Obama have my complete and total contempt. I hope you enjoy paying the extra taxes he’s serving up to you. He’s just like every other lying demagogue who said, “I’ll tax the rich!” What he knew, and you’re too stupid to realize, is that the rich can, and will move away from the taxes.
California is now finding that out, to their shock and dismay. The rich have sharp lawyers and lots of accountants, and they’ll keep their wealth safe no matter what it takes. If they’ve got to move, so be it. Google “Jim Rogers” and check out how one smart rich guy did it. You can bet he’s not the only one.
No, you lefties are going to be paying through the nose for Bama’s garbage and wondering why you thought it was such a good idea to vote for a guy who said he was going to take something from other people. You thought he was going to take something from your neighbor, didn’t you? Guess you forgot YOU were somebody’s neighbor too!
Look at the places in America that have followed the path Bama is leading you down. California, NY, NJ, Mass…all of them overpriced, underinvested, tax hells that are hemorrhaging smart people because anyone who can flee them does. The losers and the parasites flock there while the productive leave as quickly as they can.
Britain prior to Margaret Thatcher…same thing. Government can’t get the rich to pay the “fair share” it thinks they owe because the rich are too smart and too quick. Your standard of living is going down, lefties. If you’re not already, you’ll soon one of the proles you thought you were going to lead. Just remember, when you want to bitch about how the country is going to Hell in a handbasket, the culprit is close to hand. If you want a good look at who is responsible, JUST GO FIND A MIRROR!
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:06 am 102. Mojo:I find it interesting that there is no accounting for the fact that America has been viewed as both overbearing, arrogant, and unwilling to even consider the positions of other countries for some time. Have any of your idiot dittoheads even traveled outside the US/EU arena? America is not well loved for our foreign policy, or the actions of many of our citizens abroad. This stems from the American sense of entitlement and the whole “Neocon” legacy of take everything you can and leave nothing for others. I see more arrogance here than in the current administration. I also see more foolishness here, and a denial of fact. I guess the bloggosphere is raining bullsh*t again.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:11 am 103. Jezebel brown:Obama is a muslim, first and foremost. He is not an American citizen and he knows he is not. He was born in Kenya. His mentors were Communists. He has Narcissist Personality Disorder. THESE are the reasons why he has no problem selling us out. In four years we will be a third world country following Sharia law, which is Obama’s agenda.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:13 am 104. Chris Barry:What a joke!!!
Keep supporting AIG and Karl Rove, Kim!
The only unpatriotic Americans are the losers who posted on this board.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:19 am 105. Chris Barry:Palin/Romney Ticket? LMAO
Why not the David Duke/Rush Limbaugh ticket?
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:20 am 106. Iolanthe:You call Obama “arrogant” and “a punk”, and “egomaniacal”, and “unpatriotic”, and not deserving of a second term, and and yet you were all fine with Bush & Cheney & Rumsfeld et al for the past 8 years, as they nearly destroyed our country?
Amazing. Just amazing. The “pitchforks” comment was merely the truth, a friendly warning.
Get it through your heads.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:23 am 107. Iolanthe:As for saying the pledge of allegiance in front of the mirror, I can do that with a clear conscience, and I am an Obama supporter. Those of you who smiled while Bush/Cheney pillaged and frown and kvetch and agitate — yes, agitate — against Obama right now are the truly unpatriotic. You don’t own morality; you don’t own patriotism, and right now your behavior is utterly shameful.
As for Obama “kissing a camel jockey’s jewels”, did you miss the pictures of Bush, last year, kissing Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia’s hand? Obama faced the Muslim world with dignity, while Bush went, on his knees, begging for better oil prices.
A lot of you on the Right have a shocking case of tunnel vision, and a shocking case of double standards.
Shame on you.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:27 am 108. Kwasi Dee:Corporate CEOs and Wall Street are totally misguided in their insistence on bonuses. It is not arrogant for the President to use all the resources at his disposal to correct their thinking. Hopefully they got the message.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:30 am 109. Iolanthe:Bush continually spoke for *me*, without *my* permission. And clearly, about 60-70% of the country shares *my* feelings.
Bush started a war on false info — that he and the PNAC-ers knew was false — but you’re fine with that. Obama extends an olive branch to the responsible and most moderate segment of the Muslim world — something this country is going to have to do if our grandchildren are going to survive — and you’re all in high dudgeon.
Wow. It’s also funny that, after sleeping smugly for 8 years, now you’re all awake, paranoid, and nitpicking. If only you’d been this aware and critical during the runup to the Iraq War, hmmmm?
As for the press sucking up to the Obamas??? What about 8 years of sucking up to Bush about the Iraq War. The Press did not do their jobs then.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:32 am 110. naz:president obama showed cordialith towards the saudi king..what does idiot bush do afer 911.. he gives an executive order to open the skyways at the order of the saudi ambassador to evacuate the saudi s..why …who is kissing ass here
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:36 am 111. abu ahmad:i am ashamed being obama supporter, the president of most powerful country bow to the saudi king, leader of the country who’s objective is to defeat america. time to wake up americam a trojan horse is already in power.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:37 am 112. Iolanthe:One of you recommends “not confusing eloquence and charisma with intelligence”, and yet, for 30 years, you have made that mistake about Saint Ronald Reagan.
And — although you’re quick to distance yourselves from him now — you all loved and adored Bush, who had neither charisma, nor eloquence, nor intelligence — just good connections and plenty of protection from a compliant media.
Hilarious.
Double standard, again. Sure, I see lots of “Oh, Bush was in the past! This isn’t about Bush! He’s gone!” Perhaps. But the standards you all used, to give Bush an enthusiastic pass, that you now tighten up and apply so rigorously to judge and denigrate and condemn Obama … well … those are germane.
Those are supposed to be your principles, which you apply to every situation. But yours are oddly flexible depending on whom you’re examining.
While people are supposed to be looking in the mirror and taking stock of themselves, please look in your own mirrors and note how you apply utterly different standards to an opposing party member than you apply to members of your own party.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:38 am 113. ATrain:So – this is where all you disgruntled conservative base Republicans are hiding? I was wondering what rock you resided? Just wouldn’t be the same without you “Faux News watching- gun toting, bible bashing types? And you are stil using the same ole logic with regards to the economy – tax cuts and let the Free Market reign. _ Do me a favor and read and stop regurgitating Faux News or Flush Limbaugh.
One of the main reasons for the trillion dollar debt INHERITED by Obama is Bush’s tax cut. That coupled with IRAQ supposed “war” spending wich by te way was NEVER included on Bush budget drove the debt out of control. Keep in mind Bush inherited a budget SURPLUS.
Now you want to provide even more tax cuts that promote trickle down economics . Unbelievable. The man has to take a page out of Japan’s “lost decade”. One thing they learned is you cant do it all on both sides on the economic equation.
I wish Obama would repeal all Bush tax cuts then cut defense spending by 20%. That alone would take a chunk out of the deficit. The real problem with the Budget is ‘Entitlements” – Mdicare, Medicaid, etc. That is 60% of the Budgte and growing. Healt Care reform is soreley needed.
Taxcuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, is not going to get us out of this. Tax cuts mean little if no one is working and there are no jobs folks – in short – no income to tax. We have seen what tax cuts and deregulation does over 205 years – ist gets you a Depression. We need to stop thinking “government” is a bad word. Its for the people, by the people and its what you make it.
This economy is not your Reagan years economic model. That model wont work today. yet all you neo-cons spout the same garbage. Yet another reason the Republican Party will die from its own irrelevance.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:41 am 114. TheRealist:America is a great nation, but you created the mess that you are in by voting George Dubya in twice. I’m sorry but by doing so, YOU, the ones who voted Bush in twice, are the reason that Obama has an obligation to mend fences right now. And I know some of you are saying “I don’t care what Bush did, he’s gone now.” Bush himself may be gone but the damage he has done to your image hasn’t even reared it’s ugly head yet. If you think the Republicans can do a better job, then why isn’t the right wing throwing out any worthwhile ideas to fix the economy, which was there mistake to begin with? Are you really so diluted that you believe America can afford to be arrogant right now? Sorry guys but your country is being outsourced and owes China some 8 trillion dollars at this very moment, so self-indulgence is not an option. Forging deeper ties with Europe is in your best interest, whether your precious Fox news tells you so or not. Nobody is asking you to give up your rights as American citizens, all that other nations are asking for is assurances that the U.S. is not going to continue down a spiraling path of mistrust and war rhetoric that the previous administration based it’s polcy on. I haven’t agreed with all of Obama’s policies but after reading all of these posts on here, I’m glad he’s the one in power and not any of you that’s for sure. Is he unpatriotic? No. He’s educated and cultured. Unlike his intolerant predecessor (and many of you I might add) he knows that nuclear brinkmanship, a loud mouth and bible-thumping has no place in diplomacy. And so what if uses charm to boost America’s popularity, the point is that it’s working! Give Obama four years then do a review. You people put your expectations too high, it’s only April for f*** sakes.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:43 am 115. J.C.:wow!! you people are amazing!!!!!!!!hey the same Saudi Arabian ass that the President kissed was the same ass Junior Bush Pinhead kissed!! Enough with all this!!!! let the man do his job, and if after four years you’re not satisfied then by all means get rid of him!! Wah!!!Wah!!! you whining Bastards!!!I guess you have nothing else to do!!! hey! I got an idea!! why don’t you Whining Bastards fly to Alaska and get Wonder Woman ready for her election!! I could go on and on!! but I got better things to do with my time!! just let me know when you run out of cheese to go with that WHINE!!!!!!! Get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:43 am 116. Tim H:LMAO at you small, narrow minded people. I totally support President Obama. Obama pretty much won praise from world leaders and did accomplish some small goals. Getting 5000 more non combat personel for Afghanistan and G20 agreeing on more oversight so that the financial crisis which lead to world recession will hopefuly be averted in future. President obama is looking 20 years down the road for the future of this country. He inherited a huge mess and is trying to clean it up. I can think of no one else that ran for president who could be doing a better job. Obama understands unlike alot of you AMERICA CAN DO NO WRONG pollsters… That to truly succeed in dealing with terrorists, trade, nuclear proliferation, economic solutions etc… It takes cooperation between world leaders of many nations to accomplish this goal. Going to other nation’s and trying to dictate what they should or will do does not work. Ask George Bush. frankly I am fascinated by the lot of you… Obama is doing more for America’s prestige around the world then all of you combined. As for the Bank CEO’s meeting. Obama went around country during campaign listening and seeing average people’s lives disrupted and ruined over the greed on wall street lead by said bank CEO’s… So you don’t think he is a little peeved listening to their complaints when Obama has seen what that greed has done to the common man in say Iowa?? Of course go ahead and blow me off as some lying liberal. I know this!! Right now the Republican party is in the tank. Go follow your Limabaugh leader and see where that get’s you. What amusement it is seeing posters call Obama arrogant and other names when compared to Limbaugh. Obama treats people with respect and dignity something Limbaugh could learn a thing or two…
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:47 am 117. Truth:Time and time again Americans are presented with reality and fiercely reject it. Yes, Americans are arrogant. Yes, Americans are dismissive and derisive. Europe does not owe America anything. This attitude about America being the best and dominant is exactly why we are so hated everywhere.
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:50 am 118. Andy:Sapwolf,
You are a moron. Get this in your thick head, these messes were made by your esteemed Republican Senator from Texas, Gramm and Bush sleeping at the helm. I can see that you will get your wish and the Republican party will go down in defeat like many of your neocon incomptences. Palin is a Hillbily and Romney is a disguised Republican. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld wasted billions and have nothing to show for, except for a depleted arm force.
Emma,
Are you a 10 years old? anh how do you define “Patriotic”? Don’t tell me that you ate up the Bush/Cheney Bullsh..t
Apr 6, 2009 - 6:54 am 119. Notafan:Impeach this moron already! It amazes me how many idiots voted for this complete moron!
Apr 6, 2009 - 7:04 am 120. Alan:Putting Hussin Obama in office is unequivically the dumbest move our country has ever made. And it was all because the left wing marxist who voted for him were pissed off with someone else, not because he was qualified. They voted for change – well guess what? You are getting it people. And there will be a lot more changes – so bend over, spread’em wide – cuz it’s coming.
To Jon in post 33. I AM giving him six months Jon. That means he has three left. You think he’s going to fix things by then?
One thing we as Americans can do. DO NOT GIVE IN TO ISLAMIC BELIEFS. Just as there are professing Christains and true practicing Christains, there are true practicing Islamics who belive in holy war and want to kill all Christians and Jews. A person who is just a confessing Islamic don’t know what the hell they talking about. We do not worship the same God. End of story!
Apr 6, 2009 - 7:11 am 121. Louiggi:My problems with Obama the Car-Salesman-in-chief.
Triples the deficit while spending money on a 750 billion bill filled with pork that no member of congress read. Remember how urgent it was to pass the bill and then he goes away on vacation and signs it 4 days later. The reason for the urgency was to cram the vill down our throats so members of congress didn’t have time to read or scrutinize it. Remember the campaign promise of Transparency? BULL.
Omnibus Bill for 450 billion filled with 900 earmarks. Remember his campaign promise of cutting down on earmarks. He preaches fiscal responsibility while passing this monstrosity. George Orwell must be rolling over in his grave.
Bailing out banks, insurance companies and car companies. What ever happened to bankruptcy? Bush is also guilty.
Fake outrage over the AIG bonuses. Obama either knew about or should have known about the bonuses.
Obama believes Government spending is the answer to all our economic woes, our Health Care problems and our education deficiencies. Yet the government can’t even run the Post Office which is now 3 billion dollars in the hole. Why Americans think Government can solve our problems is beyond belief.
What Law did Obama cite when he fired the CEO of GM? Obama is supposed to be a constitutional lawyer. Time to go back to school.
But my biggest problem is
Apr 6, 2009 - 7:33 am 122. Alan:To Tim post 116. Call us back in two years Tim. It will be interesting seeing your post then. BTW, the last two years our country was controlled by a Democratic Congress and Senate, not by President Bush. You and your liberal cronies need to get off this kick about all the problems Obama assumed.
Apr 6, 2009 - 7:39 am 123. Peter:To all the bashers out there – it is NOT unpatriotic to hold an alternative point-of-view.
I’ve served my country, I’m working/parenting/paying taxes, and I serve my community now as a volunteer (as I have for the past 20 years). And I am proud to be an American, but I do NOT vote Republican. Pidgeon-hole me at your peril, and if you question MY patriotism, and I’ll call you a neo-McCarthyistic little @#&*!
Patriotism is adherence to our personal beliefs REGARDLESS OF WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY. Read Mark Twain’s letter about “In a republic” and you’ll understand. Or not. I really don’t care… I have no time or patience for the blind faith of zealots.
But suggesting your fellow Americans are unpatriotic and should leave the country if they disagree with you? Just who the @#*! do you think you are??!? How fragile is your faith if it can’t stand up to opposition?
Apr 6, 2009 - 7:46 am 124. Steve:From Abbey: “It’s always been so interesting to me how certain folks with regressive attitudes aften label African Americans as “arrogant” if they excel at what they do. ”
Apr 6, 2009 - 7:53 am 125. Maddog:It is always interesting to me how Obama apologists play the race card at every opportunity, as if being black makes all criticism of him is verboten, then go off on completely irrelevant tangents about his life. Obama’s own activities make him arrogant, this man has never run so much as a hot dog stand in his adult life, yet he thinks he can run two large automobile companies and dictate what cars they should build, the run finance industry and be president at the same time. Then he plans to triple the national debt, pass crushing tax increases, and make unprecedented changes to foreign policy kowtowing to our sworn enemies, and seems completely oblivious to the grave risks he is taking. No president in history has has such a cavalier attitude, let alone said he would “transform” the country. Obama is headed for a fall, and it will be a bad one.
I wish you people would hae the courage to just say “you just don’t like niggers” at least them we would know where you really stand. You don’t have to make up all this rediculous nonsense about telepromters, jackets in the oval office, flag pins, etc.. nobody is buying that crap oputside your little necon bubble anyway. Stand up and say what really is bothering you. Stop making up rediculous nonsense to vent your hatred. 122 posts and not a single actual fact, not one quote, nothing but a bunch of hate filled winguts preaching hate and fear to each other. I understand your ideals and policies have just failed right before your eyes. The results of followin gthe GOP had been disaterous for our country, you can’t hide that by posting how much you hate Obama for representing a better choice than the ones you made. Grow up!
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:06 am 126. Tonya:71. FromTexas,
Texas is a red state, and Obama did not take our state.
My Governor is Republican, my Senators are Republican and my Representatives are Republican. Our local government even went to the Republicans last election, and it will be hard for a liberal to win in Texas.
What you write makes you a loser, because if you are a liberal in Texas you are a big loser here.
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:06 am 127. Sebastian Shaw:Although President Obama only has been in office for a little over 2 months, he has spent, to date, more money than all the other Presidents of the United States combined from George Washington to George W. Bush. Worse, Obama wants to spend even more money we don’t have to implement his goals to transform the United States of America into a Socialist Republic. It’s a mad man’s dream & our nightmare.
Moderate Democrats are now trying to distance themselves from the Obama train wreck.
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:10 am 128. Rubicon:In case anyone missed it, this is how despots begin to consolidate their power over the people. Despots use threats. Despots use the public to admonish & control any who object to plans they have made or are imposing. Despots use the media (in this case, the media comply willingly & in fact are complicit in this ruse), & despots always portray others, or more accurately their opponents, as having failed to recognize & pay tribute to that or those which the despot has determined is good & right.
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:11 am 129. AThinkingPerson:Just as the left said often that “Bush was not their president,” I now say openly, Obama is definitely not my president. His attribution to America all faults & failures while failing to adequately recognize the failures of others & himself, shows he plans nothing but a nation that reflects only “his” opinion & “his” position on life in the world today.
Obama has now made himself a “one-termer” president & for that I thank God. In the end, one term is probably more than any nation of decent people can handle as it is!
The old establishment mainstream media is attempting to portray Obama as all good & all knowing. They want Americans to look upon him as “royalty.” I respect NO American royalty & in fact, I despise any who would accept or lay claim to such a state.
Those who love freedom will have much to undo once this clown is out. And this time around we need to make it clear we accept no socialist model nor will we ever allow any to occupy the office that fails to totally respect our Constitution.
If America has acted arrogantly, she has done so in self defense against the very nations he spoke to. they abandoned America & in fact worked behind the scenes to personally profit in their dealings w/ Saddam, then they vilified us for acting on UN resolutions those same European nations had signed onto. That duplicity shows us they will use & abuse us for their own sake & discard us at any time.
Europe’s heyday is over. America’s heyday will end when the worlds ends & not before.
If he wants to apologize or vilify America, I suggest he gets the hell out since he is openly admitting he is not an American & has no desire to see her prosper & flourish!
If anyone enjoys reading the one-line liberal posts as much as I do and getting a good laugh, I’d suggest reading a few posts over at the Huffington Post. The caliber of liberal group-think that goes on there is truly scary. I just hope when Obama’s policies actually go into effect and start working there’s enough government cheese to feed them all.
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:11 am 130. AThinkingPerson:Maddog…. Take your N word and go back into your cave. There’s no room for knuckle draggers like you around here.
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:12 am 131. Pamela:It’s interesting, reading here from overseas.
You can pick the conservative writers immediately. The writing is good, the arguements fact based, the manners and courtesy impeccable.
The Democrats write like dirty faced street kids – full of insults, mockery, ad hominen attacks, no intelligence, no fact based comment, just abuse.
I guess that about says it all. It’s why I’m afraid your country and mine are in for many years of Bambi and his ilk. There are more dimwits than there are intelligent people, and their numbers are increasing with modern dumb down schooling and made-for-morons TV.
The future doesnt look good.
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:25 am 132. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:RICHARD
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:27 am 133. The UnPatriot:#69
Hey illiterate one – You may want to get a dictionary !! How about “GET a life”. Also try spelling it L-O-S-E-R.
–describes you perfectly – another cranial rectitis sufferer !!!
S.M.
A friend just returned from a week’s sojourn en France. Europe is horrified at the comportement of President Obama during his trip. They are reeling in disbelief because their shiny centime is not what they thought. “Pas de classe” was the money quote.
–The UnPatriot
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:29 am 134. Peter:Pamela – I believe you meant “ad hominem”. Of course, I’m just a dirty-faced street kid, evidently, so pardon me for correcting your English.
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:33 am 135. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:TRISTAN
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:34 am 136. Peter:#74
You might want to take a closer look at Zero’s voting record – aka your evidence. Voting “present” doesn’t qualify a politician for much of anything. Additionally – it is a well documented fact, that his political beliefs are far left of the “Hero of Chappaquidick’s” – aka Ted Kennedy. You might want to read just a bit more before subjecting us to uninformed opinions.
S.M.
Re Post #89 – Sapwold
A Palin/Romney ticket in 2012… two Governors with no Federal/foreign experience whatsoever… except one can see Russia from their house, and the other was on the International Olympic Committee.
Yeah, that’s just what America needs. How about exhuming Dan Quayle just to give the ticket a little more cred?
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:35 am 137. Paul -Indiana:#30. It seems that Obama has a lot of ‘respect’ for Islam. I wonder if he had a tingle down his leg when introduced to ‘The Keeper of the Two Mosques’?
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:39 am 138. AThinkingPerson:#136 Peter… “exhuming Dan Quayle”? …. He’s not dead. As for your assertion that Palin and Romney have no Federal/foreign experience whatsoever…Great! Then they are AS qualified as our current President. You voted for him with as much so I guess you’d see fit to vote for them too. You might want to research your points a bit more before making them. Some of them are quite silly.
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:47 am 139. elvis:Europe is suck on our teat, and Obama says we are the problem?
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:47 am 140. simon:It’s over. Is it not? Let them be in the spotlight for four years, let them travel to wherever they are “told to travel”, say what “others” want them to say, etc, but we shall know them by the fruits of their labor. Can’t we wait? “YES WE CAN” Waited for Bush for eight years shoving America’s image in the mud, interfering in world’s affairs as if we are “ordained” to be the savior of the world at a time we could not save our own “hide”, being labeled the “crusaders” of the 21st. century, supporting regimes far detached from justice and devoid of ethics. Now with an image tarnished, disgraced in the eyes of many, comes the unknown who bought the presidency and claims that he is for change…oh…I get it now…change of color of skin…This man put the final touch and finished the job. Let us always remember that if the oppressed controls, destruction ensues…let us wait and see; just give the man a chance to do what “others” tell him to do…but now…It’s over…is it not? At least till the year 2 0 1 2…what a waste
Apr 6, 2009 - 8:51 am 141. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:JASON
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:02 am 142. AThinkingPerson:#84
I just wanted to take a minute to thank you for your thoughtful and excellent post. We need more like you….
S.M.
#140 simon… Sorry bub. Americans have never been the type to roll over and play dead. Wait and see? Never. It’s not in the makeup of the American patriot. This country was founded by people who risked life and limb for what they thought was right. Once we lay down and accept the status quo, what it means to be a true American is lost forever. Obama is attacking the very fabric of this country. He’s dismantling the Constitution. He’s taking over the private sector. He’s verbally trashing us overseas. It would be easy to wait it out. My finances and my conscious can’t wait that long. If our only option is to protest, so be it. Protest I will (and have). The world hated Bush for the simple reason that he didn’t care WHAT they thought. They couldn’t control him. He would never bow to their desires and always put America first.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:05 am 143. The UnPatriot:Peter, you’ve been pwned
Sarah Palin: “You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”
Tina Fey: “And I can see Russia from my house.”
Peter should be forgiven, however, for confusing an SNL skit with an ABC interview.
–The UnPatriot
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:07 am 144. Peter:138. AThinkingPerson:
Correct, our former VP is quite alive in the literal sense, quite a cadaver on the political front.
As for suggestion I “research my points a bit more” I would suggest you “read what you’re responding to”. Honorables Palin and Romney have WHAT Federal office experience, again? And Obama had none, you claim? Care to retract, or will you simply bluster onward?
Oh and please, let me asssure you as a former resident under Romney’s Massachusetts regime – I experienced his leadership quite thoroughly. I can’t decide what leadership skill I was most impressed with – his reductions in assistance to Veterans, or his tax hikes.
You might want to check your facts a bit more before making counter-arguments. Some of them are quite silly.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:09 am 145. Peter:142. AThinkingPerson
“simon… Sorry bub. Americans have never been the type to roll over and play dead. Wait and see? Never. It’s not in the makeup of the American patriot. This country was founded by people who risked life and limb for what they thought was right.”
And on THAT I completely agree with you!!! The rest… well… not so much. But I am grateful to the opportunity & rights to have this discourse with you.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:14 am 146. simon:to #137 regarding #30- have you forgotten the man’s middle name: He loudly and “bravely” uttered his middle name “hussein” while he was in Europe. Each to his own; the branches are connected to the trunk of the tree and the tree will always be part and parcel of the root. To those who elected the man: let us together wait and see!…
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:16 am 147. Peter:“for confusing an SNL skit with an ABC interview”
LOL! Acknowledged…. they were extraordinarily difficult to tell apart! Have you seen the split-screen comparison of that interview/skit on YouTube?
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:19 am 148. susan:Peter, community organizing is not federal experience, and being a governor is usually a good step before becoming president, see Reagan, Bush, Clinton.
Never having a real job like obama is not a “reference”.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:19 am 149. tanstaafl:I see Pajamas Media has made been put on the Obama-bot radar. They’ll be swarming here now, with their attempts to intimidate, ridicule, and silence…
It happened more than once during the campaign, for example, “the swarm” on command hit a Chicago radio station that was planning to host an individual (Stanley Kurtz?) critical of The One™
Obamatrons love it when they’re marshalled for some kind of denial of service attack. They feel relevant, while not seeming to be even dimly aware that their handlers (non-transparent sundry Soros organizations) use them as Useful Idiots in the campaign to dismantle America.
The ignorance and idolatry of the
O’tron Swarm
are the scariest aspects of the ‘Tron personality and most depressing for the future of intelligent life in the universe.
(that said, some very great comments & analysis above)
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:27 am 150. Matt:Ahh, Republicans. You can sit here, complaining about Obama, but just know, that right now, your party is crumbling because of the very beliefs that you Neo-Cons hold.
Do you guys have any ideas anymore, or do you just oppose everything that the Democrats do? I mean, I’m okay with that too. I see failure for your party in 2012 as well.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:32 am 151. Judy, NYC:he’s a chicago street hoodlum and meglomaniac. what an embarrassment. i feel nothing but disgust for this president, who is no president at all, just a slimeball talking blabbing mental case. case closed.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:37 am 152. Peter:148 Susan
OK, if I read your comment correctly, you’re suggesting that serving in the US Senate is “community organizing”. Huh.
I don’t disagree that state Governors are commonly candidates for President; that goes back to Jefferson & Monroe. And of course, the perennial invocation favorite of Republicans, Teddy Roosevelt.
Interestingly, however, Teddy was a famous “Trust-Buster”, conservationist and “Square Deal” advocate (going so far as to regulate the railroads in his time). He even won a Nobel Peace Prize. Hmmm. Doesn’t really sound like a contemporary Republican, does he? I mean, if we’re going to vilify Obama as a “socialist” and “destroying America”, etc., how can the GOP simultaneously uphold Teddy Roosevelt as a great president???
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:37 am 153. Iolanthe:To #146:
Your name is “Simon”; does that mean you’re going to charge people by healing them through the Holy Spirit (check your Bible … it’s for reading, not just waving!)
Does every kid named “Adolph” or “Adolf” actually adore Hitler?
Does every guy named “Jesus” walk on water or raise the dead?
The guy’s Dad came from a culturally Muslim society, although Obama Sr. just wasn’t very religious. And Obama’s parents didn’t have a time machine to foresee the rise of Saddam Hussein, so they couldn’t have named their son “Hussein” to honor a dictator who hadn’t done any serious dictating yet (early 1960s).
The name “Hussein” is about as common among culturally Muslim folks ans “Christopher” is among culturally Christian folks.
You guys need to listen to yourselves. Then take a deep breath and calm the hell down.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:38 am 154. Iolanthe:*OBAMA’s* trashing the Constitution?
How?
He’s a constitutional scholar, for God’s sake.
You were all strangely silent as Bush/Cheney reinterpreted the Constitution to give themselves near-unlimited power. Or trashed the 4th amendment to spy on us without warrants. You were fine with that.
But “interfering” with an out-of-control economic sector, essentially dismantled by the administration you all blindly followed (no matter how you repudiate this now) is somehow a violation of the Constitution?
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:42 am 155. godwin:Godwin! 27 posts! FTW!
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:48 am 156. Still Bill:125 Maddog: I read your comments and have pointed out your numerous grammatical errors below.
“I wish you people would hae [sic] the courage to just say “you just don’t like niggers” at least them [sic] we would know where you really stand. You don’t have to make up all this rediculous [sic] nonsense about telepromters [sic], jackets in the oval office, flag pins, etc.. nobody is buying that crap oputside [sic] your little necon [sic] bubble anyway. Stand up and say what really is bothering you. Stop making up rediculous [sic] nonsense to vent your hatred. 122 posts and not a single actual fact, not one quote, nothing but a bunch of hate filled winguts [sic] preaching hate and fear to each other. I understand your ideals and policies have just failed right before your eyes. The results of followin [sic] gthe [sic] GOP had [sic] been disaterous [sic] for our country, you can’t hide that by posting how much you hate Obama for representing a better choice than the ones you made. Grow up!”
You are exactly the kind of person the Democrat Party attracts: a semi-literate, dependent person who is envious of other peoples’ success, an ideal candidate for a class warrior. As a former Democrat in my younger years, I learned very early on that the Democrat Party’s goal is to make as many people dependent on Government as possible. That’s where they get their votes. I chose not to become a ward of the state. It looks like you made a different decision. By the way, millions of white people voted for Obama. How many black people voted for McCain? If you’re looking for racism, look in your own community and look in the mirror. Racism is not a one-way street.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:50 am 157. simon:Peter… You are absolutely correct. But it was an attempt to calm the criticism that is rampant and somewhat void of substance. We cannot begin to draw out descriptive language from the bin of garbage and trash the man that bought the presidency with funds from those who were probably angry, frustrated and out of breath and ended up picking the lesser of two evils. Bush began sucking oxygen from the air, and here comes a follower that only God knows his origin “except that which was mentioned all over the place that his ancestry comes from Kenya, here comes this man and thrives on criticizing the American system and the American values, and he thrives on sucking the air from our lungs. The man is a pawn and we all know that, but to let this pawn freely roam the spheres of hate and pick what he chooses to pick and slam it in the face of others so he could look brave and clean is somewhat demeaning to us all, particularly those who belong to the MENSA group. Americans must wake up now and say what ought to have been said long time ago: “let those who know how to cook enter the kitchen.” It is the people that should decide what is right and what is wrong, but to incite a riot would not be wise or healthy. As for the man elected for the sake of showing that America is great I say, America is great because her peoples know that it is time to tell this man that the honeymoon is over: the Presidency of the US is not a game to be played by those who cannot stand the heat of small fires. Change did occur by allowing such a thing to take place in America at a time that this man is more of a mystery than a mystery. Finally, the ones to be blamed are the ones that did not want or were unable or restricted or were unwilling to the rock the boat. Now wait and see is all we got…because as long as dozens of advisors surround the man add to that the teleprompter, we shall be waiting in vain: Brave men and women have become a rarity in America. Sorry…it’s over…but we cannot but wait! (My opinion)
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:51 am 158. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:MARCIA
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:58 am 159. tanstaafl:#88
Hey Bimbo – get a life ! Of all the petty Bullsh*t I’ve read lately from you whiney Libs, yours has to be the
most petty ! You are truly pathetic !
S.M.
OK, if I read your comment correctly, you’re suggesting that serving in the US Senate is “community organizing”.
Voting “present” in the Illinois state senate and missing most of the votes in the US Senate (”running” for 2 years) do not qualify as serving.
Obama this, Obama that, you can’t turn on the tee vee without seeing his mug, hearing his voice. It took me until Bill Clinton’s 2nd term to be so utterly sick of him I had to turn off the tee vee when he came on. I’m already there with O.
He’ll be travelling, speechifying, travelling s’more. Being President should be boring, like actually reading the Pelosi- written crapola you sign. (Obama considers he’s the Big Picture guy and the boring part is left to his hundreds (literally) of “advisors”)
Presidents & Rock Stars are way too alike these daze.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:58 am 160. Iolanthe:BTW, props and kudos to your moderators here for permitting so many comments dissenting from the general political weather on this site!
I wish all conservative-leaning sites showed such fairness.
I’m serious. And in deference to the good work and good judgment you moderators show, I will try extra-hard to keep my comments relatively calm and respectful.
That said, guys, from one of the kinder spots in my heart, I want you Obama-bashers to know:
Many, many, many of the things you have all been told about Liberals are simply not true. For example, you’ve been told that we are godless and unpatriotic and lazy and either poor and shiftless or impossibly rich, elitist, and arrogant, or that we “expect government to take care of us” or we’re “all on welfare” or we “all have government jobs.”
Nope. We’re a lot like you. Middle class, hurting, p***ed off, and kinda scared. Only diff is, *we’ve* been scared for the past 8 years, and it sounds like you guys are just getting scared *now*. ;->
Hell, I’m even a 2nd Amendment supporter. We *like* capitalism, except when it’s used as a front for huge worldwide Ponzi schemes. We wish small businesses didn’t face such a thicket of regulations, while giant corporations seem to face little oversight.
Most of all, we’re patriotic, just like you are. We have been upset at the direction of this country for a long time, and Obama was the best choice we saw. You’re right – he didn’t have as much experience as I would have liked, but at least he seemed calm, deliberative, and intelligent. The “street thug” and “arrogant” personality that you see when he speaks or acts, well … I just don’t see it.
And it *FLABBERGASTS* me that someone can call Obama an “arrogant street thug”, but yet you were completely silent during the 8 years of Dick Cheney’s reign. Come on.
Even given all that, my hope is that we can soon get together and fix the things that are broken, regardless of who broke them, or on whose watch they were broken. And to me, that means mending relationships with more reasonable countries in this world, not just rattling the saber. We all love our kids and grandkids and we all want them to grow up in a safer fairer world.
I believe that we want the same things; we just disagree about how we’re going to get them.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:06 am 161. John:Not the most cerebral bloggers here! Quite a few racists and conservatives it would appear. The dark side of America, I should say.
The reality is Barack Obama has been very well received in Europe for the most part. The President’s remarks–those that I heard, at least–were right on. Sorry, folks. but America is not perfect, and it has much to learn from Europe. And yes, Europe has much to learn from us.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:06 am 162. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:A LAWYER & A SOLDIER
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:08 am 163. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:#101
It seems more like you checked your intellect & patriotism at the door. Just about what I would expect from a liberal shyster. Keep your whining and lib attitude/politics in the courtroom…its not needed here. Before long, your Usurper-in-chief may just rescind your First Amendment rights anyway (just because he “Won” and feels he has the power to do it.
Btw, I fought and bled for this country in Viet Nam just to keep hacks like yourself in Pabulum…
S.M.
A LAWYER & A SOLDIER
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:09 am 164. tanstaafl:#101
YOU’RE A DISGRACE TO YOUR UNIFORM……….!!!
He’s a constitutional scholar, for God’s sake.
Gasp. Hardly think so.
Obama doesn’t appreciate, to the slightest degree, the limited powers of the Executive set forth in Article II.
A President doesn’t have powers to re-direct or mis-direct the economic sector, except (through precedent, not as a power granted to the Executive) on an emergency or temporary basis. This guy seems to want to make control (with the assistance of tax cheat Timothy Geithner) permanent.
That’s the point he kept pounding, and apologizing for, in Europe, the lack of government “regulation” of the private sector.
Obama does, however, recognize that this country is in such disarray and so many of its citizens completely brain dead (due to several decades of conditioning in government schools) that a great opening exists now to seriously subvert the US Constitution.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:09 am 165. Peter:156 – Still Bill
If you’re going to correct other people’s grammar and claim intellectual superiority, please be advised to call it the Democratic Party not the “Democrat Party”. Similar to the “Republican Party” as opposed to the “Republic Party”
Of course, I’m just a “semi-literate, dependent person who is envious of other peoples’ success”. Oh, and, “dirty-faced street kid” too. Good thing all Conservative input is fair & balanced, categorized themselves like Pamela did earlier… “writing is good, the arguements [sic] fact based, the manners and courtesy impeccable.”
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:10 am 166. simon:A short response: why in your opinion then did the man refrain from mentioning his middle name during the election time…here in America, and was “gutsy” overseas? May be he said it once or twice but was “probably” advised to refrain from making the same “mistake” that could end up costing him the highest office in the land.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:11 am 167. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:Is it because the name Hussein scares most Americans (a by-product of politicians’ and media dissemination of fed-misconceptions and fraudulent claims regarding Saddam Hussein and the biggest lie “ever fabricated” of weapons of mass destruction that cost us and still costing us the loss of our sons and daughters, brothers and sisters in Iraq.)
Sorry – I meant #91.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:12 am 168. COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:Abigail
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:16 am 169. susan:#94
Why is it then, that so many of you asinine Libs & Demorats spend so much time on this site…
Get a life, Bimbo !
S.M.
“OK, if I read your comment correctly, you’re suggesting that serving in the US Senate is “community organizing”. Huh.”
and you call his celebrity tour from 2004 to 2008 “serving the US senate”?
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:19 am 170. tanstaafl:The reality is Barack Obama has been very well received in Europe for the most part.
He denigrated America and they clapped. Of course, they (many, not all Europeans) love to denigrate America.
But the European press, not being as politically correct as the entrenched media in America, are already in the bizness of making fun of the long-winded American President.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:23 am 171. Iolanthe:About “Hussein Obama” and the belief of some of you that he’s just about to sell us out to Islamic Communists, etc:
A few of us were discussing this on a Lib-friendly site, but it’s a question I’d like to raise here, just to make some of you think … or just giggle:
If *YOU* were an Evil Communist Conspiracy interested in planting a Manchurian Candidate, sure to give America away to the Mohametan Fiends and sell us all into slavery to Satan, would *YOU* pick a half-black guy with an Arabic name who spent part of his childhood in Indonesia?
How well do you think that would focus-group, especially back in the 1950s or 1960s, before this elaborate scheme was apparently planned?
If you wanted to destroy America, bring it to its knees, via Manchurian Candidate, wouldn’t you instead choose something/somebody sneakier, less apt to raise red flags? Like … maybe a son of a patrician New England family, maybe a Harvard-educated, baseball club owner, entrepreneur, tough-talking conservative Texan?
;->
Seriously, if anyone ever planned to destroy America, it would probably be for financial reasons — we are a fat plum for the picking — not so much for any ideological or religious reasons.
Also, about the Communist/Islam connection: I don’t think Communism is very popular among Muslims. Are there *any* Communist Muslim countries? I know about “strange bedfellows”, but … religious extremism and Communism seem never to mix.
Just roll this around in your minds a bit. That’s all I ask.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:31 am 172. Grey Fox:It’s funny (not), that when G. Bush the second got into office, he didn’t face anything like the criticism we are seeing now. When the shoe is on the other foot…
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:34 am 173. Peter:My blogging friend: I hate to break it to you, but America WAS arrogant, terribly so, for the past eight years. I don’t know if it was a case of adolescent hubris, or payback, or a simple case of Rousseau’s ‘evil is a robust child’. But in any event, we can’t pretend. Please. I’m am so tired of knee-jerk agenda-driven writing. The problems inherited by Obama are mind-boggling. Revenue cuts and corporate greed and mismanagement leading to a financial debacle; two wars, one of which is in a shaky stasis, and the other going south; a decaying infrastructure that needs immediate attention; energy policies that weren’t; and on and on. G. Bush Jr. inherited a surplus, and a relatively robust economy, and no wars. Hmmm. Wonder how he would have done in the present circumstance? How would anybody do? Obama at least has given some actual ideas and moved us off center. There were tons of fences to mended overseas. Sorry. If we don’t do that, then we are totally isolated, and that is the path to ruin. I frankly don’t think anyone will ’solve’ what we have now, but this nasty silliness about Obama and Democrats is puerile. Lumping everyone together in some ideological straightjacket is intellectual foolishness. Or worse. It becomes a blame game, when what we need is for all hands to be on board to solve critical issues before they overwhelm us. Or is that what you want?
169 – Susan
Are you calling Palin’s 2 yrs as Governor of Alaska (preceeded as 2X Mayor of Wasillia… pop. 6300) is a better qualifier?
Oh, wait and Fred Thompson is not a “celebrity tourist”?
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:38 am 174. Adolph III Wonkeratti:Hey, could y’all remind me when the next crossing burning is, ‘coz I didn’t get your Klan memo. Will Heinrich and Ludwig and the other National Socialists be there too, or just you true Aryan bluebloods?
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:39 am 175. Dave:Wow, Axelrod has the astro-turf machine going full guns on this one.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:40 am 176. Iolanthe:And COLONEL SEBASTIAN MORAN, *my* child fought in Kuwait, sacrificing his sanity, to protect your right to say horrible, untrue, and grievously insulting things about a sitting President and about your fellow Americans who, like you, are concerned about the future, but are choosing a different set of guys, and a different set of actions, to try to deal with it for awhile.
Your buddies and my kid *all* died to protect the right of folks on both sides of the political fence to run their mouths.
You Rightwingers do *not* own Patriotism, and the choice you guys made have landed us squarely in this mess. Maybe Obama will turn out to be the Horrible Bum you all say he is. But I doubt it. Like most Presidents, he’ll do some things right, some things wrong.
But you guys aren’t even giving him a chance, examining his every move, every clothing choice, every facial expression, with a microscope, while you let guys on *your* side of the political fence get away with lies, torture, murder, and stirring up hornets’ nests of violence long before exhausting other options … ’cause it makes Good TV, or makes their friends richer.
Once again, COLONEL, you do not own Patriotism. And you do not own God. And you do not own the United States.
My kid did not survive his PTSD, BTW. He was a brave boy and a good Marine, willing to risk death many times. But it turned out he just had no stomach for killing other poor little 19- and 20-year-old b*st*rds like himself, for reasons none of them understood, some of which may have been founded on utter lies or dreams of glory for their leaders.
I’m not against all war. But man, it’s nice to see Thinking coming back into style, especially in the Oval Office. This way, if we get into another war, I’ll know it wasn’t ’cause the President’s Fancy Buddies (e.g. PNAC) just kinda *wanted* one so “history would sing great songs about them.” (That last bit attributed to Richard Perle, I believe.)
Thank you for your service and your bravery. Sincerely. But please try to engage your mind, too.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:45 am 177. LizBerneyforCongress:It was very interesting that Obama’s arrogance remark was made at about the very same time as the revelation that BEFORE he took office, Obama threatened Israel to stop wiping out the terrorist rocket-launching pads in Gaza. (Israel listened to Obama’s threats and stopped its action, against its better judgment, and now Israeli civilians still face rocket attacks from Gaza every day.) Talk about arrogance and interference with another nation’s right to defend her people from attack!
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:51 am 178. ib42:Like cowardly bullies in a school playground, this lot of disgruntled sore losers gather together to denigrate and insult our President, and call themselves patriots at the same time. What a bunch of brainwashed twerps!
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:56 am 179. tanstaafl:Obam promised change we can believe in. I guess that lets out those who want the same downward direction of the previous government.
Obama is trying to give America a new direction, new attitude of cooperation, new and better rules to rebuild this country shattered by the ineptitude and arrogance of men who should be tried and found guilty of murder and just plain stealing.
But you guys aren’t even giving him a chance, examining his every move, every clothing choice, every facial expression, with a microscope…
Barack is way overly exposed already. He kept himself in our faces for 2 solid years of droning. (this isn’t entirely his fault, since, these days, the next presidential election cycle start about one year after the last one ended)
If he’d just sit in that boring Oral office and do his homework, honestly, I’d have to examine him far less.
He loves being Rock Star to the Planet. His mission appears to be community organizin’ The World, but, I suspect his mission and his Ego are indistinguishable.
(adios for the nonce, thanks for an excellent article, Kim)
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:58 am 180. Iolanthe:172: I know. Where was all this watchfulness, all this energy, all this critical fire and fervor, during the *past 8 years*?
Folks here and on Free Republic now repudiate Bush, or say, “Oh, the past is past.”
But these are the same folks who were happily sleeping for the past 8 years while Bush and friends dismantled the country.
We are in this mess now as the direct result of the policies of Bush/Cheney … and of you guys *sleeping* through it all!
*WE* bitched! *WE* saw this coming! And all you had to say to us was “UNPATRIOTIC! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!” You called us Godless.
You called us Traitors.
You called us Communists.
None of that was true, no more than it’s really true of *you*, tempted as I am to just scream at you sometimes, “AW SHADDUP! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!” when you “criticize a sitting President” (you know … that action you used to consider an Unpardonable Sin?)
I say we *all* stay; we face facts; we work together to fix it,
No, ACORN didn’t bring down America. And two years of a fairly hamstrung Democratic Congress didn’t bring down America. And even Bush/Cheney didn’t bring down America without help: the sleeping populace bears part of the responsibility.
Waving the Flag and putting decals on your car and calling your neighbors Godless Traitors is not the same thing as actively participating in democracy.
Sure, calling a President on his BS, or what you *think* is his BS, *is* actively participating in democracy. But what took you guys so long? And is it possible you’re kicking the wrong guy? And what do you really have against him? His funny name? His wife’s bare arms? His teleprompter? His foreign Dad? His supposed “arrogance” (which, I think, you’d call “confidence” if you saw it in a Republican.) Vague allusions to his “destroying the Constitution” when you can’t point to anything he’s actually doing that destroys the Constitution?
The Second Amendment isn’t the *only* Amendment. ;->
Sigh … Rush is fun to listen to, but he just isn’t very smart, and he tries to be outrageous so you guys will keep listening. But you’re not supposed to *BELIEVE* him on everything! Hell, I loved him in 1994, but turned him off around the same time my kid died from his Gulf War I-contracted combat PTSD.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:59 am 181. RationalAmerican:These comments are HILARIOUS! Comedy gold! An American President is well-received in Europe and you act like its a bad thing. It used to be the norm, until 8 years ago. If bin Laden (remember him?) is going to be defeated, it will take multi-national cooperation. It seems much more likely now than ever. Iolanthe, I take my hat off to you and offer condolences for your brave son. I’m wondering how many of these yahoos have ever had to face what he did.
Apr 6, 2009 - 11:23 am 182. Peter:Iolanthe – Thank you for sharing that – It must have been painful, but it is SO valuable… sincerely, thank you to you & your son on many levels.
The point that Rush is an entertainer is an important one; he’s an un-elected, self-appointed, dogmatic bully who is RATINGS-DRIVEN. He’s a modern-day McCarthyist, and totally unaccountable. And now we see that no one is safe; he’s even snapping at Conservatives who don’t pass “his” criteria as “Good for America”.
Fortunately, that doesn’t mean he’s free from ridicule:
Apr 6, 2009 - 11:26 am 183. Steve Smith:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omSqEwaO_X0
Obama is not only a radical who trashes America at first chance…
He is also a radical who is flying headlong into a challenge with the constitution.
He is a presidential bully. He threatens banks who don’t want government money. Forces them to take it under threats of audits. Once they take it, he then controls them.
You can see presidential bullying at his press conferences. A citizen, Rick Santelli, calls him out on paying mortgages with government money. The president then goes into attack mode against this civilian. Sad. Sad. Sad.
Obama is a bully who uses government as a weapon against those who speak out.
He is the saddest excuse of a president. I am sorry to admit he is even my president.
Apr 6, 2009 - 11:42 am 184. susan:“Are you calling Palin’s 2 yrs as Governor of Alaska (preceeded as 2X Mayor of Wasillia… pop. 6300) is a better qualifier?
Oh, wait and Fred Thompson is not a “celebrity tourist”?”
I take being a mayor and governor more than being a fake senator, so yes, palin was widely more qualified as VP than obamatron will ever be as a PRECEDENT. I see that you have to bring up palin because it’s evident that mccain had more experience. Still don’t understand why you compare president and VP.
And was fred thompson the candidate for the republicans?
if those are your “argument” you should shut the mouth, you are just embarassing yourself.
Just admit you are an obama groupie in love with his man boobs and you would do a better figure.
Apr 6, 2009 - 11:56 am 185. susan:I do also consider Peanut Jimmy carter to be more experienced than zerobama. Running a farm is still more of a job than being a celebrity senator.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:11 pm 186. engulfedinflames:teleprompters!!!!!! !teleprompters!!!! acorn acorn!!!!!!! bare arms!!!!!! crappy gifts!!!!! muslim????? citizen??????? the people in france seem to like him! freedom fries!!! freedom fries!!!! why doesn’t this so called “prez”understand that he needs to scare the crap out of everyone if he wants to get elected again? doesn’t he know that pretending to be nice only inflames sentiment against the USA!USA!USA!USA! (were number one!) to think so called americans voted for this ___________ ______________________________________________________________ (you fill in the blank) makes me ____ ______________________________________________________________(you fill in the blank) things were going so well under the last administration, next election let’s let the supreme court decide.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:23 pm 187. Peter:Interesting rebuttal, Susan. Looks like you are backing down from the “celebrity tourist” pablum, hoist by your own petard. Oh, well… that’s what happens when you blindly repeat dogma. Glad you haven’t swallowed the teleprompter thing.
I never denied McCain has more experience; where did you get that from my comments? I was pointing out that you seem quick to attack Obama’s credentials, and people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Because by the standards you outlined, Larry Craig, Ted Stevens, Rick Renzi, Tom Delay, Bob Ney and many others were great legislators qualified for the Presidency. But I didn’t know you are so sensitive about the Mayoral thing… I should’ve guessed you were pulling for Rudy Giuliani so you lost a couple times over in 2008.
To quote Pamela above in post #131 “You can pick the conservative writers immediately. The writing is good, the arguements fact based, the manners and courtesy impeccable. The Democrats write like dirty faced street kids – full of insults, mockery, ad hominen attacks, no intelligence, no fact based comment, just abuse.”
Hmmm. “Obamatron”, mis-spelled President, “Shut the mouth”, “man boobs” and an incomplete sentence to wrap it up. Sounds to me like you’re a Democrat. At least by your own colleagues’ standards, anyway.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:39 pm 188. Still Bill:156 Peter: I said Democrat Party and I meant Democrat Party. The Democrat Party is a Party of envious class warriors who want to take money out of the pockets of productive people and redistribute it to free-loading Democrat Party bums so those Democrat Party bums can sit on their lazy asses and complain about how unfair life is while they’re drinking beer and eating potato chips and blowing farts. There is nothing democratic about the Democrat Party. It’s still the Democrat Party you ignoramus.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:40 pm 189. Sebastian Shaw:Rational American, President Obama is only well recieved because he went down on his knees to give the other world leaders head in the following:
*President Obama bashes his own country with his arrogant statement of the United States while in Europe; as Commander-in-Chief, who represents America’s interests, this is a disgrace.
*President Obama concedes to the world leaders & comes back with nothing substantial.
*While North Korea tests a missile, Obama’s teleprompter says that the United States must lead…in getting rid of our nuclear arsenal. North Korea made Obama the fool.
*Obama is capitulating to Russia & bashes the USA for defending Georgia.
Obama basically rolled over & played doormat. He is well liked since he is as much as Socialist as the European leaders. They look into a mirror & see themselves.
President Obama is looking for Europe for leadership when the USA has always lead. This is not going end well for Obama or the United States. President Obama will look feckless & being a follower instead of a leader.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:46 pm 190. Peter:Whoops – I posted too soon! You ARE blinded by the “celebrity senator” venom! LOL! Wait, wait… can I hear the “Dittos from Anywhere” thing? I love that.
Here’s a little reality slap for you, Susan; the Republican party is directionless, the platform is showing signs of fissure, and the leading populist Conservative (Rush) has gone Ronin.
Here’s some better guidance from a much smarter Conservative icon (Lee Iaccoca) that you can follow: “Lead, follow, or get out of the way.” Blind thrashing & wailing is just plain pathetic.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:48 pm 191. fireyourguns:Well, I see that the liberal freaks are out in force today, trying to defend the indefensible, and once again failing to impress anyone with their collective verbal vomit. I offer you a gift. A most accurate, and definitive description of liberalism. Feel free to cut and print, and be sure to stand in front of the nearest mirror as you read and interpret this fine delineation, and know that it is a projection of the person that is staring back at you… Enjoy!
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:49 pm 192. Mike:————————–
Liberalism
lib·er·al·ism /ˈlɪbərəˌlɪzəm, ˈlɪbrə-/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation [lib-er-uh-liz-uhm, lib-ruh-]
–noun
1. The quality or state of being liberal, as in behavior or attitude.
2. A profound mental disorder of unknown etiology, characterized by a marked disassociation from objective reality. Its victims display an inability to grasp facts or understand even the most basic rational concepts. It is thought to be a disease of arrested intellectual development as many of Liberalisms victims display a childlike immaturity. Analytic and rational thought are impossible. Magical thinking and almost infantile fantasies based on unfulfilled emotional needs are substituted for adult reasoning.
Origin theories:
Liberalism is theorized by some to be the result of a as yet unknown virus, as it appears to spread through a population in geometric fashion. Others say that childhood exposure to neurotoxic poisons in the environment may be responsible. Evidence presented for this is that the more time a child (or adult) spends in government funded public education buildings the more likely it is they will contract liberalism and the more profound is the infection and subsequent severe cerebral atrophy. To date no chemical or substance has yet been isolated from these buildings that might cause the disease.
There is no known vaccine or cure, but it has been noted that individuals exposed to the realities that directly contradict their delusions sometimes show improvement. The longer their exposure to reality, the greater the curative effect seems to be.
A number scientific studies indicate that Liberalism has become so widespread that Western civilization may become extinct in its present form unless a cure can be found.
[Origin: 1810–20; liberal + -ism]
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Kim:
Great article. Now how can we get rid of Obama and this terrible administration. Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, and all the tax cheats should be removed.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:51 pm 193. Peter:Still Bill – (sigh). I hear a lonely, sad cry for help in everything you type.
Where is the decisive logic? Where is the intellect and leadership? Where is the character and integrity of Republicans like Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln? Is “sit on their lazy asses and complain about how unfair life is while they’re drinking beer and eating potato chips and blowing farts” the BEST political dialogue a neoCon can generate?!?
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:56 pm 194. JohnC:Here’s the rest of Obama’s quote, which Kim Priestap doesn’t have the guts to post:
“But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what’s bad.”
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:57 pm 195. Pat J:After reading some of these posts I have to wonder who the arrogant, dismissive and derisive ones really are. I for one don’t agree with everything Obama’s done or said. But his demeanor, his behavior and his open mind is refreshing compared to his predecessor. Obama is going to help America regain its place in the world by leading by example.
Apr 6, 2009 - 12:57 pm 196. susan:“Interesting rebuttal, Susan. Looks like you are backing down from the “celebrity tourist” pablum, hoist by your own petard. Oh, well… that’s what happens when you blindly repeat dogma. Glad you haven’t swallowed the teleprompter thing.”
backing down? he was a celebrity senator, and now he is a celebrity president. Do I have to repeat it once every 2 sentence for your poor understanding?
See, for you limited leftist brain it works like that.
Being a president is a higher version of being a governor, being a governor is a higher version of being mayor. You have to deal with both politics and money/budget at a different level. Being a senator doesn’t mean much (especially if you were around campaigning and promoting your books), as a matter of fact, you libtards wanted to put brainless caroline kennedy as senator, a total zero.
Plus, during his very short carreer as a senator, while being there only to vote present he managed to get his wife a well paid job inside an hospital that received (how strage) public financing thanks to him. So he’s experienced in unethical behaviour, I grant you this much. Is this a dogma? Aunt Esther would have NEVER get that job. It was a pay for play, so much that when the disgraceful lady was annoyed with working, they cancelled the position. It was a job CUSTOM made for her to repay Ogabe of the public money he kindly directed to the hospital. Is this a dogma? Yes, dogmas are truths.
Oh also, he never had a real job prior to that. And when he was allowed to swim in a huge amount of money to “improve” the chicago school system, he managed to achieve ZERO success. Chicago is still the toilet that it was before.
So what is the “executive experience” you brag about?
Ok, I grant you that writing 2 books is a sort of job (even if I doubt he wrote them), but he’s no Hemingway.
PS: just because I don’t talk about the teleprompter, it doesn’t mean I do not notice that your celebretard PRECEDENT cannot talk to save his life, it’s just that we cannot collectively list all his incapabilities all the time.
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:09 pm 197. susan:OH, silly peter, you thought I misspelled PRESIDENT?
no, I wrote what I meant, Zerobama is not PRESIDENT, he’s just a PRECEDENT, he’s there because he’s black, america now needed a PRECEDENT (the first black person), not a president.
Because, no white person with such a thin resume would have been allowed, no white person would have survived the scandal of being in a racist church for 20 years.
Zerobama is there to clean the white guilt from leftist retards. He is the PRECEDENT you have been waiting for.
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:13 pm 198. Bear:I think we need a new party. The liberals that come to this site are generally vicious and can’t seem to get over Bush. The conservatives just respond in kind (but at least most present evidence for their beliefs). Anyone that actually listens to the (prez) double speak should be able to recognize and call it out regardless of party affiliation. I was against the war before I was for it. You have to play the hand you’re given. (not make excuses about it) same with the recession. Bush did not need the WMD claim to invade Iraq, only to make it politically palatable.
Our current President should refrain from making apologies on behalf of former Presidents. That shows a disrepect that is demeaning to his position and the office. Be Presidential. Bush had his faults as most will be quick to point out. It took a while for them to be so obvious.
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:13 pm 199. Peter:Oh, and Still Bill – I checked the DNC website and double-checked their Charter. It is the Democratic Party (full name: Democratic Party of the United States)
Did you double-check your “facts”?
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:14 pm 200. Eileen:America needs to fix this mistake and vote this trash out of the white house and Congress
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:19 pm 201. Peter:Bear – interesting thought. The Bull Moose party formed under similar circumstances.
It is NOT a surprise that both sides in a disagreement are quick to claim a “moral high ground” as their own, and say that they’re only responding to attacks. But I just read one of your own colleagues post “he’s there because he’s black”. I’m going to leave that alone, and let you folks sort it out amongst yourselves.
I’ve been called all kinds of stuff today… from “dirty-faced street fighter” to “ignoramus” to “liberal freak”. Hmmm. Even when I found points of similarity, acknowledged corrections, gave points of fact & historical reference, it still gets labeled a “vicious attack.” Hmm. So what I see is that talking sense or facts (like you claim you want) is kinda pointless… if you don’t agree, you simply ignore it and assault the source (the ad hominem argument Pamela cited earlier)
What I’ve learned today is that America’s Republican Party is far too fractured, directionless, and self-conflicted to lead this country. And guys, more than half the country agrees (even some of your own party). It’s simply incapable of cohesion. I think the most interesting idea of the day is what Bear cited… form a new party.
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:44 pm 202. Sebastian Shaw:Pat J, give us SPECIFIC examples Obama is a leader. If he were truly a leader, he would have stood for America’s interests & came back with something substantial. Otherwise, the symbolic President has only symbols to give.
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:46 pm 203. The Helvetica Scenario:This is the place that hired “Joe” the “Plumber” as a “journalist”, right? Lol.
Apr 6, 2009 - 1:49 pm 204. Still Bill:199 Peter: Did I say I was a Republican? As far as I’m concerned, they’re just as bad as Democrats. I’m an American who doesn’t like seeing “Giggles the Clown”, who unfortunately represents the USA, bowing down to a tyrant in order to ingratiate himself with Arabs and their repressive cultures. Zero bowed down so low to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, I thought he was preparing to give the King a “you know what.”
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:06 pm 205. Bear:Peter”But I just read one of your own colleagues post “he’s there because he’s black”.
Not sure what you mean by that. It certainly didn’t hurt. He’s there because he was groomed for the job by the party(to win), and everyone fell in line (Clintons). I registered as a republican in ‘76 because someone came to the house on a campaign drive. No other reason. By definition I’m a Libertarian, which is conservative in many respects.
The party has no traction however. I hadn’t voted republican for years until this election. I didn’t vote for Kerry and am not proud to say I voted for Gore, because I thought he was smarter than Bush. My vote is irrelevant in my state regardless since it is overwhelmingly blue. So most votes are protest votes.
My issue with liberals is the candidates always have an unwarranted air of superiority, and as a consequence appear-are untrustworthy. (witness Barney Frank in the Lou Dobbs interview a few days back, talk fast and interrupt alot, saying absolutely nothing.)
So claims about Bush fall on deaf ears with me. Your guys are no better, and with the erosion of our liberties (oppressive taxation/spending plans etc.) going on with the current government, I’d say they’re alot worse. We will soon be a two class system…the ruling class with their selected corporate allies, and the rest of us. Most of the independents that voted for Obama are recanting. Live with it. I for one am hoping for a change.
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:52 pm 206. Cybergeezer:Obama is a scumbag and should find a nice mansion in the Sudan and stay there
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:54 pm 207. lee:Oh, the world might like Obama now, but they will manufacture some reason not to like him later on. At least conservatives here question him for good reason.
If you can actually read in another language, you’ll find that most anti-American sentiments in media abroad is thin skinned. Honsetly, you’ll cringe when you hear the conspricay and drivel that comes out of their mouth. Many liberal American expats shake their heads at this.
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:56 pm 208. engulfedinflames:GOLLY! i think it would be so nice if we could find a way to recognize that we’re all on the same team and want the same things. i don’t like paying taxes as much as the next guy but governance costs money. i”m more concerned with how my taxes are spent than with how much i’m paying. no one likes waste. no one likes abortion. no one wants to send their kids to war. no one wants anyone else telling them how to live or what to believe or why she left me for that salesman. GEE WHIZZZ can”t we all just get a bong???
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:58 pm 209. AThinkingPerson:Funny how all of the liberals pop up their heads to throw out the N word or shout “racist” or whatever their blather of the day is, but they never seem to be able to say anything good about what POTUS Obamaprompter has done since being in office. Hmmm… Wonder why? Why so much venom? Why so much hatred spewing out of the left? Buyer’s remorse? Too bad there’s no lemon law for the people’s house. Is it kind of hard to defend a President that dislikes his own country? I’m guessing yes.
C’mon liberal group-thinkers, you know you’ve got buckets of regret yet to spew…. we await it with glee (and a guilty smug feeling).
Apr 6, 2009 - 2:58 pm 210. WJA:I recently asked my friend’s little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up.
She said she wanted to be President some day.
Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, ‘If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?’
She replied, ‘I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.’ Her parents beamed.
‘Wow….what a worthy goal.’ I told her, ‘But you don’t have to wait until you’re President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard,and I’ll pay you $50. Then I’ll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.’
She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and sked, ‘Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?’
I said, ‘Welcome to the Republican Party.’
Her parents still aren’t speaking to me anymore.
Apr 6, 2009 - 3:08 pm 211. Tonya:I know that my state is doing better than other states are doing in this recession. I know that I have a Republican Governor, and a Republican run state government. My state is red and it is doing better than the states run by Democratic state government.
I voted for people of many races when I voted for the straight Republican ticket during our last election. The outcome for our state government was that the Republican Party took almost every seat, because the Republican party wiped out the Democratic party in the last election. If it would have been up to our state vote, we would not have a President bowing down to Saudi Arabia, and we would not have a President crossing the ocean to apologize for America. A war hero took our state votes, and he sure as hell would not be bowing down.
When you vote for local government keep in mind that the “Community Leader” just may grow up to be your worst nightmare.
Apr 6, 2009 - 3:18 pm 212. Bear:$50k for the Italian quake victims? I hope that was a typo. Petty cash fund must be getting low.
Apr 6, 2009 - 3:19 pm 213. Oscar the Grump:First of all I want to welcome
Apr 6, 2009 - 3:48 pm 214. Oscar the Grump:Mojo
Iolanthe
Atrain
TheRealist
J.C.
Tim H
Peter
Maddog
Matt
GreyFox
ib42
Rational American
Pat J
……… to this web site. I have to say I love the name calling and derisive comments. This has brought joy to my heart. That said, you’re all a bunch of idiots. If you want to stick to the facts and investigate what we bring up you’ll see that we are dead-on on matters. Iolanthe you’ll make a great Republican. Peter its going to be fun crossing blades with you. Welcome aboard you bunch of spooks.
Sorry folks, I didn’t mean to leave out
Apr 6, 2009 - 4:03 pm 215. Oscar the Grump:Andy
sandra
Shari
Abbey
richard
Johnson
pb
Marcus
Marcia
Punisher
Abigail
Horace
You’re a bunch of A**holes too. Welcome aboard!
Congradulations PJM you must of hit a raw nerve. I better reread this article.
Here is what I do see. Europe, Russia, China, and Iran are all attempting to bring down the US. Each does it in its own way. Europe united in order to match our industrial, and economic might. A weaker America means that they are stronger. Unfortunately Europe is still divided socially and ethnically, something very hard to overcome. I think they’ll disintegrate within the next 20 years. Russia still fancies herself as the other world power and tries to do as much mischief as it can. Ultimately this will come back to haunt Russia. China now has all the American factories and is the world’s strongest growing power. It is trying to flex it muscle. America is a great target. Iran sees itself as the new Islamists and is trying to climb to the top of the heap. It is the most dangerous of the American opponents.
Our problem is that we don’t have a President who recognizes this. He tries to make nice nice with everyone instead of acting like a world leader. His speeches don’t make any difference when they are falling on the deaf ears of people who want to bring us down.
The MSM panders on every word and action Obama makes. They helped create him and they push his agenda. To all my new liberal friends out there, what is created by the media can easily be destroyed by the media. As Obama goes about doing his agenda and it starts effecting you, you’ll be more and more disenamored by him. There are many who supported him jumping ship already. Believe me give it time, the ship has a leak and soon it will be a hemorage.
Different people have different heroes. You liberals always want to rub Ronald Reagan in our face. He wasn’t the best President we ever had but he gave us stability after the Carter fiasco. You have Bill Clinton, eight years of growth, a surplus etc. Yet it was Clinton who set the ground work for todays financial disaster. It was his implementation of Carter’s housing plan that set everything up.
Most Presidents take 3 to 6 months before they seriously try to implement their agenda. That is the time for the feeling out process, advice, and attempting to recognize possible consequences. It took Obama less than one hour to start implementing his agenda. He’s either God and knows all the answers or he’s a damn fool.
Apr 6, 2009 - 4:37 pm 216. Bear:I read this article yesterday and was surprised at the number of comments today…
“Most Presidents take 3 to 6 months before they seriously try to implement their agenda. That is the time for the feeling out process, advice, and attempting to recognize possible consequences. It took Obama less than one hour to start implementing his agenda. He’s either God and knows all the answers or he’s a damn fool.”
The last hits the nail on the head. Thanks Oscar.
That’s what my circle of friends have been saying since he drove the stock market to an 11 year low.
Apr 6, 2009 - 5:04 pm 217. donttreadonme:wow, a whole bevy of “we won, whitey” racist comments from leftists and Obama apologists. What’s the matter, Church’s Fried Chicken closed? Early parole? Too cold on the porch? You guys started it, and boy, oh boy, do I love a good verbal scrap with Libtards-especially the race-sensitive ones!
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:25 pm 218. donttreadonme:…Since the discussion has shifted towards skin color, thanks to the abundance of Obama fellating, race-baiting cowards posting on this article, I will give Obama props from a relative standpoint.. he is undoubtedly the most capable of any brown-skinned head of state in world history. I mean, who is better? Mugabe? nope. Chavez? nope. Castro? nope. Little Elvis? nope. I rest my case.
Apr 6, 2009 - 9:31 pm 219. Tonya:President Bush did not lie, he had to keep the American people safe.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/u/uraniumyellowcake.htm
There is a big show to put on for many will be there and Obama must not upset people.
http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/March05/0513.html
Things like this make me angry, because people voted for an actor, just an actor with a script to read.
Apr 6, 2009 - 10:19 pm 220. Delia:215. Oscar the Grump,
Yep! Not only did this PJM article [obviously] hit a raw nerve but my [first] post was at the helm leading the way to liberal mayhem! I’m beginning to think there is curious ‘obsession’ from the Kos Kiddles…
Apr 6, 2009 - 11:33 pm 221. Andy:Oscar the Grump
Are you insane? How do China, Russia, and Iran will bring us (US)down? And why are you always think in terms of winning and losing like a barbarian, eat or be eaten?
All I see is the people like you why bring the US down to an uncivilized level at which Bush/Cheney had done in the last 8 years. Why can’t y’all admit that you can’t speak for all Americans. The majority of the Americans wanted a change and god willing, they got it. The Republicans have had their chances and they screwed it up. Let me count the way, Presidential, The House of Representative, The Senate, And even State and Local races.
Bitterness and keep living in the past is not heathy for you my friend.
Apr 7, 2009 - 1:29 am 222. susan:“Even when I found points of similarity, acknowledged corrections, gave points of fact & historical reference, it still gets labeled a “vicious attack.”
What “points of fact and historical reference” did you give me in regards of 0baama winning for affirmative action and white guilt. Or his wife, getting a high paid job thanks to corruption?
Apr 7, 2009 - 5:28 am 223. abu ahmad:mark my word change will come america will never be the same again, mr. zero little by little will appoint leftist and islamist in her cabinet, before you realized its already too late. after 2 years you will feel the change? its all part of big plan to defeat america from within. we give warning does anybody listen????
Apr 7, 2009 - 5:56 am 224. Tonya:The truth is if most of the news channels on my television told me that there was a hurricane coming I would not believe them at this point. If the news sources in Italy are like they are here, than it is no wonder those poor people stayed put and died, because all they have are half truths and no real substance on current events.
They want to talk about what the leaders are wearing, or what will Mrs. Obama wear today.
http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/April03/0322.html
http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/April03/0321.html
I stay worried, and we should all be worried, especially when Iraq’s evil twin Iran is building a nuclear arsenal and our government ignores it.
Apr 7, 2009 - 7:49 am 225. The Historian:OBAMA IS A POLL DRIVEN FOLLOWER:
LEADING BY POLL IS NOT LEADERSHIP
Great Presidents are often not popular while in office.
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/04/lincoln-did-not-lead-by-polling.html
Apr 7, 2009 - 7:55 am 226. Tonya:The best question is “Why is the Middle East’s only democracy being treated worse than North Korea, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Hamas, and Hizbullah? ”
Why?
Apr 7, 2009 - 8:08 am 227. trangbang68:Israel is God’s timepiece.
Iolanthe, Hate to nitpick, but how exactly did your kid “sacrifice his sanity” in a war that lasted all of a week in Kuwait? What were the total casualties in Gulf War 1, less that 100? Cut with the hyperbole please.
Apr 7, 2009 - 8:34 am 228. Oscar the Grump:Andy #221
First of all I’m glad that you replied and that you’re not one of the types that takes a quick sh*t and runs away. The first thing I learned many years ago in my International Relations class is that there is NO morality in international relations. That was drummed into our heads especially whenever we raised a moral objection. (By the way I was a liberal back then.)
How can these countries dismember the USA?
We’ll start with Russia. Russia puts its finger into anything that causes us problems. The Iran nuclear program is just an example. Does Russia really want a nuclear Iran. Yes, if its to the interest of Russia. In the mean time, they sell Iran and anyone else in the world any weapons they want. Georgia was another recent example. You want to side with the USA, here’s a kiss for you for that. The Ukraine now has some real serious doubts as what to do. Anti-missile system in Europe, lets get rid of it. Project power in our hemisphere, send their navy to Cuba and Venezuela. Arm Venezuela, ship weapons to FARC, aid Bolivia. Veto any resolution the US poses in the UN. Destablize US. I’m sure that I’m missing lots more.
China already has all of our country’s industrial capabilities. It simply bought them and shipped them back. China competes with our country for vital world resources. It bought the Chilean copper mines, bought the Panama canal, it buys up oil fields, it invests in the third world to exclude us, It is trying to match us militarily and has already projected military power beyond its borders. The recent capture of a US spy plane is one example and the harasment of our ships on the open ocean is another. It too has done much to destablize American currency. Much of the counterfit money used abroad is channeled through China. It vetos UN resolutions that are vital to American interests. It also sells arms to anyone who will buy them.
Iran I stated is the most dangerous, and it is. It is building a nuclear capability. It foments disorder in Gaza, Lebanon, Afghanistan. It is complicit in killing Ameican in Iraq. It is projecting its influence into Latin America with aid, mosques, and propaganda. It is complicit with Chavez in causing problems in this hemisphere, ie aiding FARC. It can single handedly bring America to its knees by closing off all oil coming out of the Gulf region.
Apr 7, 2009 - 9:28 am 229. zeezil:Congressman Barney “Phoney” Frank, in excoriating the AIG CEO, conveniently failed to mention the $9.1 million of taxpayer dollars in bonuses he and his crony corruptocrats doled out to their own congressional staffers during this same period. So we have a failed Congress and a failed company doling out bonuses celebrating their failures.
Apr 7, 2009 - 10:13 am 230. A lawyer & soldier:COL.SEBASTIAN MORAN:
You know nothing about me. And #176 is right. You don’t own patriotism, you don’t own the United States, and you don’t own God. How dare you question my patriotism just because I don’t happen to agree with the many moronic beliefs that exist about President Obama. And if anyone has usurped constitutional rights, it was the President Bush. As for me being a liberal shyster, you know nothing about me or my viewpoints. The fact of the matter is that I have always been a moderate, not an extremist like many liberals and conservatives alike. But the past eight years has really been too much. The conservatives have been so extreme in their controlling viewpoints, that it is now beyond time for the pendulum to swing back in the other direction. As for your service, if in fact it is true, thank you. But for now, it is senior military leaders like myself that will advise and lead. Your time has passed. So sit down and shut the f**k up!!!
Apr 7, 2009 - 10:13 am 231. Um:Peter, let’s face it. You really suck.
Apr 7, 2009 - 10:59 am 232. daveinboca:Shyster Shylock & “a soldier”
From the internal evidence of your posts, you are no moderate and actually manifest signs of delusional imbecility.
Peter doesn’t suck, but accepts input into his most productive orifice, down there below his coccyx where Andy Sullivan’s “husband” makes a playground of perversion.
Apr 7, 2009 - 11:37 am 233. Oscar the Grump:A lawyer & soldier
Apr 7, 2009 - 12:54 pm 234. view from afar:How dare you tell somebody on this blog to “Sit down and shut the f**k up!” Who the F**k do you think you are? This blog is an open forum. Your points of view are just as valid as Co. Sebastian Moran’s and visa versa. If you can’t handle being civil then get the F**k off here. If you can control yourself, people will listen. And as for you being a new leader, I wouldn’t let you lead me to the toilet.
Peter as I live in France, but am an American, will point out to you that the French still don’t like Americans, it’s a jealousy thing. They want to have their cake and eat it too; free life. Obama looks like a little kid with free hand in a candy store whenever I have seen him on tv here (so much for a positive view of Americans). I dobt very much that Obama will be able to bring about the participation of European allies in Afghanistan. Here in France when it became clear that Obama would win, the news programs immediately began to show anti Afghan war propaganda, like it was wrong for the west to be in Afghanistan. After the beating of that young girl for talking to a boy (imagine), still nothing is worth dying for. Give it up, Obama isn’t going to fix anything unless the US can disappear and the Europeans can continue as is. Plus, many Europeans saw the election of Obama as the death of capitalism, and the revindication of socialism. Not these are economic theories, and the economy is what should prove the theory…
Apr 7, 2009 - 1:32 pm 235. catlee:95. Michael O’Brein:
Apr 7, 2009 - 4:25 pm 236. Oscar the Grump:You are so right. Either they came from some liberal blog, because I have never seen so many liberal thugs. Also, you can tell that most of them are liberal as everyother word they have to use profanity to defend themselves. Hopefully they will get the hint and go back to their liberal sites.
Hey where are you?
Mojo
Iolanthe
ATrain
The Realist
J.C.
Tim H
Peter
Maddog
Matt
Grey Fox
ib42
Rational American
Pat J
Andy
sandera
Abbey
richard
Johnson
pb
Marcus
Marcia
Punisher
Abigail
Horace
America waits to have a rational discussion with you. Or, is it that you can only sh*t and run. I for one would love to discuss your above mentioned matters in a rational way. Or, it that impossible for you?
Where are you?
Apr 7, 2009 - 4:54 pm 237. Войска ПВО:Way to go Oscar!
While you’re at it, welcome Rachel Peepers back to the fold. She is a great voice of reason (NOT sarcasm) as are you, Marc Malone, David Thompson, Delia, and the others who have “history” here.
In fact, when you get right down to it, we should be flattered that we’re taking the heat from those KOS tools you diligently pointed out. Their guy, the Big-Eared-Boy-King, must be really flailing or they must have gotten someone to translate the foreign press’s notices about that slime-bag, because they have been unleashed on PJM and other sites with a vengeance.
So-o-o-o-o-o, we must be having an effect!
Keep up the good work..although it is lamentable how the discourse here takes a dive when those turds show up.
Apr 7, 2009 - 7:25 pm 238. Tonya:We could set some of these liberals out in our yards, and then the squirrels would carry them off. They would mistake them for ACORNs, because they are nutty.
Apr 7, 2009 - 9:12 pm 239. Andy:To Oscar the Grump
Now that you pointed out the so-called weaknesses of the current administration. Do you think that the US has enough money and resources to fight China, Russia and Iran at the same time? So you and your Republican party have a plan to handle these crises? or sitting here trying to convince everyone here that you know a little bit of world events.
“Talk softly and carry a big stick” hear that phrase before? Diplomacy is the essential avenue to avoid an illegitimate and unilateral war like Iraq. The world is changing and it takes a different direction and vision to mitigate the problems that we are facing. Bush/Cheney idelology did not and will not work. So instead being a biased A..hole, trying to be neutral for once in your life.
let me repeat what I said before, Iraq war has affored US a depleted arm force and nothing to show for.
May be I should paint all the Republicans from the same brush. There are some amicable public figures out there like Robert Gates and Collin Powers who are trying to do the right things which is saving the world and US.
God Bless America !!!
Apr 7, 2009 - 9:56 pm 240. Andy:To Oscar the Grump
Now that you pointed out the so-called weaknesses of the current administration. Do you think that the US has enough money and resources to fight China, Russia and Iran at the same time? So you and your Republican party have a plan to handle these crises? or sitting here trying to convince everyone here that you know a little bit of world events.
“Talk softly and carry a big stick” hear that phrase before? Diplomacy is the essential avenue to avoid an illegitimate and unilateral war like Iraq. The world is changing and it takes a different direction and vision to mitigate the problems that we are facing. Bush/Cheney idelology did not and will not work. So instead being a biased A..hole, trying to be neutral for once in your life.
let me repeat what I said before, Iraq war has affored US a depleted arm force and nothing to show for.
May be I should not paint all the Republicans from the same brush. There are some amicable public figures out there like Robert Gates and Collin Powers who are trying to do the right things which is saving the world and US.
God Bless America !!!
Apr 7, 2009 - 9:58 pm 241. tmaxx:The BOW!! How can the WH spin office think we are all so gullible as to buy their canard that POTUS was simply bending to make it easier for the shorter King of Saudia Arabia to shake hands! When BO met the Queen he did not give the protocol prescribed nod from the neck. The Queen is MUCH shorter than the King of Saudia Arabia. The arrogance displayed toward the Queen and the subservience to the King of Saudia Arabia shows that America’s Foreign Policy is in the hands of a dangerous oaf.
Apr 8, 2009 - 5:48 am 242. one of my own:217. donttreadonme: . . . ‘wow, a whole bevy of “we won, whitey” racist comments from leftists and Obama apologists. What’s the matter, Church’s Fried Chicken closed? Early parole? Too cold on the porch?”
Spoken like a true monkey, Retread . . . the wit! . . . the jokes! . . . the funny things in between called wokes! . . . Brevity the soul of wit? Maybe not. Maybe that credit should go to Skoal. You like Skoal don’t you Retread? Yeah, you like a pinch between your cheek and gum . . . a little gnaw, push it around bit with your tongue, squeeze out a little squirt.
Whoa, that sounds gay! Of course I’m not gay, even though this kind of talk sounds an awful lot like projection. (For you Skoal suckers, projection is a term used in psychology to describe when you accuse others of possessing your own base and shameful character flaws . . . for example, trotting out a series of colorful racist insults in the guise of deflecting responsibility for holding those views when, in fact, the authenticity of those disclaimed views is immutable. )
Retread, you might want to revisit a few of those tools and techniques you so warmly embrace. Here, I’ll get you started . . . How much cheese could a dumbshit squeeze if a dumbshit would squeeze cheeze?”
Apr 8, 2009 - 7:55 am 243. Pete:You know what is disturbing? How organized are the obamabots in their manipulation…this paid volunteer army was formed to distort and shut up public opinion. Every time anyone posts a criticism of Obama they come in, trying to shut up the voices of dissention. Like a communist country, no one is permitted to voice anything against Obama. This worked during the election, but now we are wiser and it doesn’t work anymore. The truth always comes out. Obama is an amateur and he’s killing this nation.
Apr 8, 2009 - 9:30 am 244. Sebastian Shaw:The Obamabots will eventually break. Toys do that. Mindless irrational malcontents just psychically implodes due to some sort of glitch in their programming. They remind me of the Fembots from the Bionic Woman.
Apr 8, 2009 - 12:19 pm 245. Karin:I think it’s funny that when the bots & the trolls started in here, they said “Oh so this is where all you rightwingnuts have been hanging out!” If they haven’t heard of PJmedia, they’re just not websavvy.
Apr 8, 2009 - 1:19 pm 246. The Shadow:I guess the troops in Iraq hate him too – Certainly looks that way from the photos.
Apr 8, 2009 - 2:42 pm 247. Sebastian Shaw:You know when the White House to spin Obama’s bow to the Saudie king, President Obama is just digging a deeper hole for himself.
The pictures are everywhere on the internet. President Obama can deny reality if he wishes, but then he needs to his head out of his nether regions…
Apr 8, 2009 - 3:05 pm 248. Delia:244. Sebastian Shaw,
Yeah but ‘fembots’ are kinda sexy until their faces blow off from a microchip meltdown. lol!
Apr 8, 2009 - 3:26 pm 249. Delia:P.S. ((Welcome back)) Rachel Peepers. Don’t let the lefties ruffle your feathers… Plenty of us love you! ((HUG))
Apr 8, 2009 - 6:09 pm 250. jennie:I think we the people are being played for fools by Obama, his minions and all other politicians in DC. I think the politicians are scapegoating the CEOs, Wallstreet, bankers and anyone else they can to cover up the fact that is their legislation that got us all into this mess back in 1999, I believe, with the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act. Wasn’t Robert Rubin, Secretary of Treasury under Clinton, along with some Citigroup people the ones who pushed for deregulation in the banks that ended us up in the economic mess we are in? Robert Rubin then went on to work for Citigroup, making a tidy sum of cashola. I also believe he was an economic advisor to Obambi during his campaign. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama is on the take with Citigroup, AIG and who knows who else
Obama has it all wrong. The pitchforks should be pointed towards DC.
On a side note, is it me or does anyone think we are getting tested with Somali pirates jumping boats, journalists being accused of spying in N. Korea and Iran, and so forth? We are starting to get stomped on. Something so ain’t right. God help us all.
Another thing, I perused some of the comments and one thing I have observed not just on this website but on others is that people who tend to lean towards Obama and have intense dislike of Bush usually resort to telling people shut the f up and now be subservient to the reign of the O. It’s interesting because the thing is that I think there is a lot of emotion that is being used and it really doesn’t make much sense. What exactly is it that Bush did to peeve people? Tell me exactly so I can be better informed. Sway me to your side.
My own observations and opinions is that he was a lousy speaker and lacked charisma. I am totally convinced that was his biggest crime and people hated him so because he didn’t tell people what they wanted to hear. He didn’t make people feel all warm and fuzzy. He was absolutely awful to listen to. This theory of why people hated him so much might be credible because we are a nation so into the superficial. We are a nation of addicts. We just want to feel good all the time. Tell me what I want to hear, let me live good, and then I will be fine. Me, me, me. So I attribute a lot of the intense hatred to people being in withdrawal for 8 years. They were used to Clinton and his schmoozing and then…boom… we were hit with a president really bad at “speeching” (one of my students came up with that term…love it)
Bush may not have been the greatest president but I think he did keep the nation from totally falling apart. He wasn’t a rabblerouser. He kept a level of dignity that I don’t see occuring right now. We also didn’t have any terrorist attacks other than 9/11 which I think was planned in the Clinton era and probably a result of what went on during his years. Also, I believe, if you look back to Clinton years there were more terrorist attacks or attempted terrorist attacks in this country than we had in the past 8 years. With Obama in office along with lots of Clinton people, I fear we may experience a lot of problems with terrorism because he wants to talk and apologizes for America. I don’t think that is good diplomacy. Talking, bargaining, negotiating would seem okay, but to go being all apologetic he has already undermined his/our status.
This is not about Republicans, Democrats, blacks, whites, rich, or poor despite what Obama would have you think. I think this is about being an American. What does it mean to be an American? This should be a wonderful, strong, prosperous, free nation and screwballs if others don’t like us. They most likely are jealous. We don’t have to kowtow or apologize for who we are. I fear that we are at risk of losing a lot.
So with that said, I am not going to sit down and shut up just because Bush was in office for 8 years people and people who didn’t like him had to put up with him and now it is their turn. That is utterly juvenile!
May those who hate Bush find their peace within these next four years.
Apr 8, 2009 - 7:19 pm 251. Mike Blackadder:I think Obama’s remarks to European leaders is due to the same affliction that many troll posters suffer from in this thread. I think his brain has simply become hard-wired to frame every world problem as a consequence of George Bush’s presidency. He will continue to be the unBush. And his most devout followers will continue to defend his policies not due to the apparent virtues of his policies but on the sole basis that he is not George Bush.
I’ll be honest, I’m not overly optimistic that many people are going to get-it in the next two to four years. I think we will be blaming Bush for America’s problems for decades. Look at two of the major Democrat/Republican policy argument over the past eight years: Global warming and the war in Iraq.
Global warming has become a total joke, the latest punchline from the IPCC being that it’s going to take a 20 year break due to ‘natural variation’ but will come on strong after that. Like as though that doesn’t totally vindicate the skeptic argument that these warming/cooling cycles are largely due to natural variation.
And the war in Iraq has turned into total military victory, a devoted ally in Iraq, the humiliation and discrediting of Al Qaeda in the Muslim world and finally the evacuation of enriched uranium from the hands of terrorists. All of this should be largely vindicating for those of us on the right side of these issues, but people really don’t get it. If they can’t be rational about Global warming and Iraq, how can we expect them to be rational about assigning blame to Obama? I’m not going to hold my breath.
Apr 8, 2009 - 7:30 pm 252. Oscar the Grump:Andy
Some of the greatest diplomats in our American history, European history couldn’t do anything with the likes of Hitler, Stalin , Mussolini. You must be pretty heady to think that your boys will do better. There isn’t a heavyweight in the bunch.
There is no way that our country could fight the three powers mentioned and win. Fighting them is not the answer. Sucking up to them isn’t either.
Look at all the respect Obama garnered from any of the three mentioned powers. Happy New Year Iran.
I want to know how the Bush administration weaken the US militarily. Don’t you think that the Sec of Def cancelling major weapons programs is going to hurt us more than anything Bush did? China and Russis are trying to duplicate the f22 yet we cancelled it. China is trying to build a blue water navy, we’re cutting back on making capitol ships. We are going for a coastal navy instead.
Keep bringing the questions I’ll give you the answers.
Apr 8, 2009 - 7:36 pm 253. Pat J:@236. Oscar the Grump:
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Oh hey. Just now got your message. I actually have a career/life/girlfriend so sorry I couldn’t come back and play right away.
Referring back to my one and only post here: “After reading some of these posts I have to wonder who the arrogant, dismissive and derisive ones really are.”
Frankly you just proved my point by referring to 24 posters as “spooks, idiots and assholes.”
You’re as bad as everyone who wants Obama to fail. I for one did not agree with many of Bush’s policies. I was against the Iraq war then as I am now. But I never ever said or wanted Bush or America to fail. A president often has to face difficult critical decisions and sometimes unpopular ones. But we should never want him to fail. If Obama fails, we all fail.
But I take it you are referring to his trip to Europe in particular. A lot of attention has been made regarding some of the things he said in Europe.
Obama admitted that in the past, America had “shown arrogance” and had “been dismissive, even derisive” of Europe, which we had. He also said that Europe’s rampant anti-Americanism was “insidious.” Neither attitude, he said, was “wise,” nor do they “represent the truth.” He also said that part just after the “shown arrogance” comments.
So it is not only arrogant, dismissive and derisive of people like Seah Hannity to take Obama’s words out of context to promote their own narrow minded agenda. Its also very sad some gullible lemmings only heard those words without hearing what else he said. Or bothering to look further than the likes of Fox News or Rush Limbaugh for their sources of information.
So enjoy your gay little tea parties. The rest of us will be doing what we can to help change things for the better for everyone, including you.
Namaste.
Apr 8, 2009 - 8:40 pm 254. Oscar the Grump:Pat J
Don’t take anything I said personal unless it fits. You guys came onto this blog and started name calling so don’t cry about it.
As for your man of change , I don’t think he can change a diaper. He’s playing the same old political game every other politician plays. There are some big differences here between him and the repulicans you take pot shots at. So far he’s tripled the national debt. Here’s some news for you. The next wave of repos are about to hit, the extended arm loans. We’re looking at a cool trillion dollars in defaults. Six months from now the ninja loans will default, that’s another half trillion. Guess who set all this up. Let me help you here, Bill Clinton, 1995. And, ACORN helped him do it. That’s real history. Your Obama, man was the legal representative of ACORN. He personally was involved in creating this fiasco.
If you don’t believe me, research what I just said. Now he is trying to act the hero in the international stage and his ignorance is really coming through. The whole world is laughing at him. The emporer has no clothes.
Europe’s anti Americanism stemms mainly froma huge inferiority complex. They can’t stand the thought that we saved them in WWI, WWII, and the Cold WAR. Our economy was the envy of the world. We influence art, science, industry, medicine, economy etc. They are blindly jealous. Go ahead and kiss their collective asses.
I will never forget your man bowing down for the king of Saudi Arabi, nothing ever done by a head of state in this country was ever so demeaning. It won[’t change a thing. The Saudis will continue to stab us in the back every chance they get.
By the way if you want change, I’ll be glad to break a dollar for you. Yes I will enjoy my tea party.
Apr 8, 2009 - 11:30 pm 255. Pat J:Oscar the Chump. The portrait of the American blamer. The national debt triples, blame Obama. Then blame Clinton. Then blame ACORN. Then blame Obama for training ACORN. I’m suprised you didn’t blame Jimmy Carter since he signed the CRA into law in 1977. The blame for this economic mess is shared by both political parties. And quite frankly a lot of the blame eventually falls upon us since we elected these people.
And as I mentioned earlier, Obama condemned the anti-Americanism from Europe. He also praised America’s role in rebuilding Europe. I’ll argue some of your statements on Europe’s anti-Americanism rings with truth.
I too was offended by the bow. But I soon got over it. I guess you’ll just add it to your list of ways Obama is an appeaser.
Enjoy your tea party. Just make sure you spell things correctly on your cute little signs, moran.
Apr 9, 2009 - 8:46 am 256. Oscar the Grump:Pat J
There was an article published in 2000 that forewarned the credit/foreclosure meltdown. It laid out exactly who was responsible and why. There was a host of community development groups
and ACORN was just one be it an important one.
ACORN was very important in getting Clinton re-elected and he paid them back. In effect he turned over the implementation of a federal program to private hands. Banks were coersed into giving out subprime loans. It only took one word from them to the fed to virtually put them out of business.(It was based on a matter of descrimination) Now a person with a 30,000 annual income could buy a 500,000 house. The ACORN type groups were in charge of qualifying the loans and got a commission for each loan made. And, it got worse. Two other waves of loans were made with even less qualifying terms, extended arm loans and ninja loans. The first wave represented only 5% of the loans made defaulting. Extended arm loans represent a trillion in loans with a default rate of 70% and they are about to hit. The ninja loans are even worse at a half trillion with a default rate at over 90%. Some a predicting at over 95%. I am not making up these facts and figures. If you take just a little time to research what I’ve just stated, you’ll understand my concern.
It’s not my intent to turn you into a conservative. If you want to be a liberal, god bless you, be one. Who knows maybe one of you will come out with an idea to fix this mess. I for one don’t see it. I see the fox in charge of the hen house.
Please check out the facts that I’ve laid out they are real, its not paranoia. I for one would like to continue this discourse. I know you’re busy life/work/girl friend. Believe me I know how busy a girl friend can keep you. I’m married have children, try to operate a business, and am writing a book. Other than that, I have all the time in the world on my hands.
I think we are both trying to hold the same flag up.
Apr 9, 2009 - 11:40 am 257. deguello:#217 RETREAD#242 OOMO Give up the sarcasm ;you lack the brains to bring it off.All you are accomplishing with your raving, is proving that RETREAD scored points against the OHOLE.Accussing retread’s arguments of being somehow defective, because ,according to you,he uses skoal(implying that he’s a dumb redneck),is a new low even by your standards.Skoal is popular with SEALS,RECON MARINES,and other elite warriors who defend your worthless neck. BTW: my coprophageous cretin: a pinch of Skoal in the cheek is far better than A PINCH OF ONE OF YOUR OWN TURDS IN YOURS.
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:31 am 258. deguello:255 PAT J: Frightening, isn’t it, having to defend this appeasing affirmative action, masrxoid boob of a “president”. The more cretinous his behavior, the more desperately distorted your view of reality becomes. Get ready to have a nervous breakdown Pattie Cake;your prez has just begun screwing up! Incidentally,Obama refused to visit Omaha beach,too many dead white arrogant males!
Apr 10, 2009 - 10:39 am 259. one of my own:257 deguello . . . I know you feel wounded. I can only kid-glove you clowns so long, then I have to go in for the kill. You’ve suffered as a result. You’ve been felled and it hurts, I know. As to your reference to Skoal and Recons and Marines, that is by far the most disconnected and desperate straw punk ever constructed. I mean you gotta have no shame whatsoever to put forth that red-white-and-blue boner. Oh, and TURDS! You sure know how to hurt a person. Next time you might want to throw in something to do with “sticks and stones . . . ” I hear Navy Seals often use them as weapons.
It’s hard to have an impact when everythign excapes you, isn’t degigolo?
Apr 10, 2009 - 4:09 pm