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1. jvon:

Obama has already discussed his plans for military spending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:46 am 2. cfbleachers:

Jennifer, in a logical world, your thinking here makes sense. I fear we are not living in a world of logic today, but of emotion.

Sen. Obama need do nothing more than continue to hide his background, shroud his lifelong associations with extremit fringe radicals, distance himself from the frothing and raging of those very voices, keep secret his Cabinet choices, …in essence, play Dean Smith’s “four corners” offense for the remainder of the campaign. And allow the co-conspirator in silence media elements to carry his water for him.

As for taxes, he must studiously avoid mentioning capital gains, inheritance, …and most of all, must avoid any detailed conversation on who pays the taxes in this country. Instead, he will continue to assert how life in America is “unfair” and how the new refs are going to call the game in a manner that will benefit one team and hurt the other. And allow the co-conspirator media to carry his water for him.

As for our military, our homeland security, our foreign relations and our entire defense establishment, he need only continue to say how we are spending billions and how that can be put to “special use” here at home. He will eliminate our defenses one by one and rely on a “new relationship” with the UN, as we become co-dependent upon a corrupt and limp institution as our “protectors” against aggression. We will plead to be liked…and to be eaten last, by the bullies of the world…as we weaken our ability to defend freedom. And we will stand idly by as Israel is slandered by proclamation after proclamation, which will enhance our standing in the eyes of her enemies. And the co-conspirator media will carry the water for him.

If this seems eerily similar to Jimmy Carter, that should come as no surprise. Maybe Sen. Obama should take to wearing sweaters.

No, Jennifer…all Sen. Obama has to do, is serve up a Happy Meal box, filled with secret sauce and have the co-conspirator media carry the water for him. For my part, they can hold the malaise.

Oct 13, 2008 - 1:26 am 3. Ed Wallis:

…afraid of getting sent to Obama’s future “re-education camp,” Ms. Rubin…or, why on earth “help” such an anti-American extremist?!!?

Please refer to:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/obamas_three_strikes_1.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/why_obamas_socialism_matters_1.html

*** McCAIN / PALIN ‘08 !!! ***

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Oct 13, 2008 - 2:11 am 5. Sandra M:

Why Ms. Rubin do you feel it necessary to give advice to Obama?

If he wins, and you whine about it, you will have proved yourself an utter fool who should be ignored.

Oct 13, 2008 - 4:03 am 6. Ken Besig:

Can you just imagine what will happen if Barack Obama DOESN’T win the election? The furious hatred of the radical Left will know no bounds, and it won’t just consist of “we wuz robbed” or the “courts stole it,” it will be Bill Ayres and Bernadette Dohrn type terrorists not screaming, but probably resorting to the methods they know best, bombing and killing innocent people. I am firmly supporting John McCain mainly because Obama’s radical socialism will cause tremendous to the body and soul of America, bringing with it a disastrous economic downturn and an abridgement of civil rights like freedom of speech and association. But I am also not minimizing just how violently his supporters will react to his defeat.

Oct 13, 2008 - 4:07 am 7. Broadsword:

Obama will do none of what you suggest. His intense self-centeredness does not allow for repentance, only more, “Uh, wait a minute…er…you said…but..” I’d follow him out of a burning house only if I was the first one out.

Oct 13, 2008 - 4:47 am 8. Cassandra:

Sandra M.: believe the author forgot to insert sarc. on/off.

Could add to the rhetorical advice to Barack Obama to clear up the small matter of his citizenship:

http://tiny.cc/FjUzF

Oct 13, 2008 - 4:47 am 9. David Thomson:

“It might not be such a bad idea to name someone, maybe Robert Rubin”

Robert Rubin? This man should be severely ridiculed. Rubin and his Goldman Sach cronies are greatly responsible for our current economic mess. It was the Clinton administration that forced lending institutions to provide mortgages to minorities with poor credit histories. By all rights, Rubin should be embarrassed to go out into public.

Oct 13, 2008 - 5:15 am 10. Laurent:

Most important of all, Obama needs to continue to stall and continue his cover-up in the case of Berg v. Obama et al. in Federal Court in Philadelphia. Otherwise, if the truth gets out about his being born in Mombasa, Kenya, and never having taken the Oath of Allegiance to reclaim his U.S. citizenship, he will either lose on election day or be disqualified from serving later. Follow Mr Berg’s case at http://www.obamacrimes.com

Oct 13, 2008 - 5:40 am 11. Sioux Lady:

Ken Besig! How depressing . . . You just put us in a lose-lose situation. Risk assessment . . . I’ll still go with McC-Palin. Ayres and Dohrn were bested before, we can do it again. This time we’ll make sure their is no prosecutorial misbehavior.

Oct 13, 2008 - 5:50 am 12. Tony:

Here in Ireland the election coverage is so heavily weighed in favour of Obama that a McCain win will be seen as nothing short of election rigging at this point. Even in the US the media bias has been so slanted for Obama that I suspect this will be a popular view on your side of the pond as well…..you don’t lack for unhinged conspiracy theorists thats for sure.

Maybe it wouldn’t be a such a bad thing for Obama to win this one? All those in the center who are going to vote for him because they have bought into the “change” b/s will get to see that they have been conned into voting for the same tired old political rubbish afterall. Hopefully 4 years down the line they will have gotten this con-artist out of their system and the Republicans will have had time to put their own house in order. 4 years is nothing and lets face it, an incumbent really only has two useful years in office before the next campaign starts…..

Besides, a President Palin in 2013 will give those currently suffering Bush Derangement Syndrome a new outlet for their psychosis!

Oct 13, 2008 - 6:10 am 13. SeanLA:

Elections in the USA are no better than Kenya, humm, maybe because
they’re run by the same people? Ha ha! and with Acorn already voting
for everybody several times, not far from the truth at all.

The conspiracy theories are juicy thick.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e4SUSUprpr

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghosts/

sounds allot like a certain senator running here…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/02/kenya.marktran

Oct 13, 2008 - 6:26 am 14. McSame:

Jennifer you are right, it is not over yet. But compared to 2004 Democrats are looking a lot happier with a month to go. Obama is too cool and calm to mess this up after so much hard work. Republicans must start looking at who their next, younger leaders will be. I would love it if you think its Sarah Palin because she would be a terrible choice in 2012. But in reality I hope you republicans demand better choices because this year’s crop of challengers will not be looked back upon fondly.

Oct 13, 2008 - 6:38 am 15. fred:

Tony,

I’m a slightly right of center voter here in the U.S. I’m 53 years old, so I remember Jimmy Carter very, very well. I was on the Left in those days, so unlike my fellow classmates in the university economics program I was enrolled in at that time I did not “get” the Carter lesson. They voted for Reagan; I did not. I did not make a break with Marxist thought until 1987. But, looking back I think most Americans who voted for Carter “got it” and never repeated their mistake.

I’m afraid the lesson will need to be repeated in our day. The demographic that supports Obama most strongly either were not born during the Carter years or were very young at the time (as in toddlers or infants). And it is going to be a painful lesson.

I think you are right. A lot of people are going to have to learn a very painful lesson. I think the economy will stagnate, as it did during the Carter years. In foreign policy, Obama’s elimination of the ballistic missile defense program will quite possibly have catastrophic ramifications. Plus, he and his people and his party will very likely begin their assault upon the 1st and 2nd Amendments of our Constitution. It will be a disaster for the nation.

Obama need not do anything down the home stretch. He is starting to break out of the pack and open up his lead. The irrational sheeple are flocking to the Pied Piper.

Oct 13, 2008 - 6:43 am 16. David L.:

Ms. Rubin has actually given excellent advice – for John McCain and his campaign during these last three weeks.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:11 am 17. gadfly:

you are counting on Racists to pull this out for Mccain?

you are such a lovely person.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:13 am 18. Tex:

Any body read the “Left Behind” Series recently?

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:18 am 19. wow:

wow. repubranauts should really calm down. and stop crying. it will be business as usual when he gets elected…just like your man bush…the govt will buy stuff, bomb stuff, etc…it boggles the mind how so many of you feel like you have a personal stake in this noise. taxes go up with every president. the stock market graph goes up and to the right over the long term. the military gets more money every year. the rich get richer…the poor get dumber and sicker…and the middle class will keep watching TV. no one is going to force you to do anything. no one wants your effing guns. grow up.

the rhetoric from the right is getting more and more weird…it’s like you all think life is a call-in talk show.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:18 am 20. Listen up:

No one place the race card but the Dems and their black voters. We are all so sick of the race card! Race has nothing to do with it. Obama just is not what thinking Americans want in the White House period!!!!!

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:21 am 21. Fred:

The reason that the rabid right drools over Ayers and that most americans don’t care is because any reading of the history details a violent militant fighting a violent and lying government – a violent and lying FBI and an America still seeped in racism and police brutality – not to mention, Ayers called the attacks in – hit symbolic military and government targets, was never accused of hurting anyone, and was let off the hook because the prosecutors pulled out every sneaky and illegal prosecutorial trick – not to mention that all this happened before many voters were even born and that ayers is a nationally respected education professor – whether you like it or not. This, of course, fails to examine McCain’s associations – such as G. Gordon Liddy – a convicted felon who worked heartily to undermine American democracy – and Americans are hip to the standard Neo-Con hypocrisy that sees no evil in right wing liars (Ollie North) and Criminals – do you think we’re THAT stupid?
Add to that the recent report detailing Palin’s abuse of power (unmentioned by Ms. Rubin – naturally), their Beer Hall rallies and McCain’s bumbling – and you have the makings of a wipeout…

And considering how supportive Rubin has been of the Obama campaign, i’m sure he’s looking to YOU for advice – the same people consistently wrong about…

everything!

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:27 am 22. Therese:

This race is absolutely not over!

Let’s not forget that on election day all of the exit polls had John Kerry winning the Presidency. Even John Kerry thought that he had won. But he didn’t. Kerry lost.

Obama is going to lose this election. There’s too much risk associated with him, and because of his constant “race card” playing, people are hesitant to tell the truth to the pollsters for fear of being labeled racists.

And…let’s not even get into the biased polling that is going on. The pollsters are oversampling Democrats in order to deflate the hopes of McCain voters to try to get us McCain voters to not vote.

Let’s go back to the analysis that appeared on this site that was done by Ari Kaufman. It’s sound and I believe that he is right.
Here’s the link:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/its-all-coming-down-to-a-few-key-states/

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:28 am 23. Will Sharpe:

Listen up: “Obama just is not what thinking Americans want in the White House period!!!!!”

Wow, that’s a sweeping generalization if I’ve ever heard one… from the little I’ve seen of the Palin rallies, it looks as though there aren’t too many “thinkers” in the crowd. I’m not saying the Democrats are any better, but I believe “thinking” left this campaign cycle–on both sides–some time ago; it’s now clouded by emotion, misrepresentation, and a general lack of substance.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:42 am 24. Self-hating boomer:

The national numbers don’t mean anything, and never did. The more ominous trend is Obama picking up a lead in Florida, Virginia, and Ohio. Those three states are must wins for McCain; if he loses any of the three, he’s toast. He also needs another big one like Pennsylvania, or a lot of smaller ones.

What goes on in those states is all that matters at this point. What I don’t understand is what are they thinking in those states, leaning toward the candidate who will bring on the most ruin of any president since FDR, and maybe more. It makes me wish that the donkeys had a moderate candidate like George McGovern running.

The good news is that the polls have a demonstrable bias in the 0bama direction. Those swing states are a lot closer than the numbers suggest. The bad news is the cheating by Acorn and others will weigh heavily in 0bama’s favor, and nobody will do anything about it. If the RNC had any spine, they’d be challanging every ballot in court, even if it takes four years to sort out who won. But it won’t happen.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:42 am 25. geokstr:

Fred:

The problem with being somehow content to let Obama win so that we can learn a lesson like Carter provided us is that the circumstances are very different. As things stand now, Obama may be provided with a veto-proof majority in the Senate, and the amount of damage that the left can do in four years cannot be overstated.

The indoctrination of students by leftist and outright Marxist teachers and professors for the last 40 years has created a huge cohort of rabid zealots who will do anything to “change” society – witness the insane and pathological hatred that most of these bizarre people exhibit on the internet. No such group existed before then; the resistance of the “anti-war youth” in the 1960’s was motivated almost solely by the self-interest of not wanting to go to war. Once the draft was eliminated, the “protest” movement died down overnight.

Remember that there are no Scoop Jackson and Hubert Humphrey “moderate” democrats anymore. The only “moderates” in the congress today are RINO’s like McCain.

Pelosi has already told Frank and Dodd that there will be no investigations into the roles they have played in the “crisis”. Look instead for kangaroo trials of Bush, Rove, Wall Street Masters of the Universe (the ones that vote republican anyway) and others.

Obama, Reid and Pelosi are on record favoring the reimposition of the so-called “Fairness Doctrine” to shut Limbaugh and other conservatives up. We’ll see similar iniatives to rein in the conservative bloggers as well; in fact, we’ve gotten previews of legal and extra-legal intimidation towards them by Obama’s campaign already. Once conservatives are deprived of our only two effective means of communicating and organizing, there will be no opposition to speak of.

There will be massive new programs that are impossible to eliminate once they have all their recipients addicted to the largesse. Expect reparations for slavery to be on the table in short order.

None of this would have been remotely possible even if George McGovern had won in 1972. But it is all very likely this time around.

Had Carter been re-elected in 1972, there is no telling what further damage might have been done to the economy, and he had a reasonably healthy economy to begin with. There was no wordwide jihad to contend with, no 30 million illegals to put a drain on the system. This time around the president will be starting with a very shaky economy to betin with. Who knows how small a push might be required to sink it entirely this time.

Unfortunately for us, McCain’s ideas for the economy are only marginally better. But at least he has some respect for freedom of speech. Obama does not.

We are so screwed.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:49 am 26. Wildmonk:

I’m a bit younger than Fred but have the same political trajectory (including the former leftie stage ending in the 80s).

I disagree with your focus on “Obama as Jimmy Carter” simply because I think that his political and strategic senses are far more evolved than Carter’s. Obama is *not* a peanut farmer, he is a Chicago machine politician. For this reason, he is far too adaptable and clever to fall into Carter’s trap.

My prediction is that we will see the MSM and the left-blogosphere, with light but persistent encouragement from the White House, pursuing an organized strategy of marginalizing Internet and alternative media voices on the right. This will go on for at least a year *before* we see any real attacks on the first amendment (and Obama will be painted, repeatedly, as heroically tolerant of all the “smears” the entire time).

They have been very successful “prepping the battlefield” for this election using these techniques so, before they are ready to bite off something as significant as major restrictions of first and second amendment rights, they’re going to use the same techniques to discredit the defenders of these rights (”They’re just a bunch extremist/racist right-wingers – you don’t want to be like *that* do you?”).

Need an example? Just witness the coordinated critique of the McCain camp as inciting violence and extremism (Note: I don’t overlook the idiocy or even criminality of someone yelling “kill him” at one of McCain’s rallies but it is hardly McCain/Palin’s position any more than the lefty fantasy’s of murdering Bush are the official policy of Obama/Biden).

Once the public is “sick of all the hate” then it will be time to step in and begin “cleaning up our dialog and making it more respectful” with new restrictions on “untrue” speech. You know, I’m voting McCain but one has to have a certain degree of admiration at how effectively Obama has deployed George Lakoff’s “framing” advice while seemingly exiling Lakoff the man.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:52 am 27. jb:

fred,
I too remember the Carter years and some of these people don’t know how bad things can get. If you work 2 jobs now better look for another one if you can find one. It’s a shame about our kick a$$ military you can kiss that goodbye. I wonder how we’ll do the tags this time? It used to be even\odds on your last number to find the day you could get gas on. High unemployment, high interest rates, economic stagnation, Oh yea, I remember Carter. This one will be worse. Good luck.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:56 am 28. John:

I’m gonna start practicing my internet posting for when Obama wins:

Are the troops home yet?
Are the troops home yet?
Are the troops home yet?

Where’s my free healthcare?
Where’s my free healthcare?
Where’s my free healthcare?

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:56 am 29. Vivian Berryhill:

You can take this to the bank: Elections are won or lost in back-rooms and living room discussions. Electorates may look at the slick, smooth political ads which are produced for television by the respective campaigns designed to sway opinion… but all in all, most people vote on candidates based on information they hear from church members; bowling team, card-playing, square-dance-going-partners; trusted drinking buddies, and folks they ‘hang around with’.

If an effective ‘whisper campaign’ can catch hold in the public domain… it matters not how much money candidates spend on radio or television ads, most folks will believe the ‘whisper campaign’ information as gospel truth if it is uttered from the lips of someone they trust… before they will believe the contents of a McCain or Obama advertisement.

This is particularly true as the majority of the American public focuses attention on this year’s Presidential election. In Small-town U.S.A. and suburban communities–– where elections are generally won/lost… people are just now talking, and the following theme is emerging as the conclusion of this 2008 U.S. Presidential election cycle is immenent: ‘Obama is not electable because of too many unanswered questions about his past that he has been untruthful about or less than fully transparent about’.

In spite of his truth squad teams patrolling communities ’setting the record straight’ about the junior Senator from Illinois, the chatter surrounding the electability of Obama–– from every day folks–– continues… and no amount of information on Obama’s “fight the smears” website can change it.

This underlying thread of this year’s ‘whisper campaign’ remains largely unnoticed and undetected by the main line media and to those useless daily poll trackers. It’s no secret that folks in bread-basket American don’t read, listen or believe-for-one-minute the data from pollsters or pundits, as it has been proven time and again that most voters ‘intentionally lie’ to them. To most Americans, these poll takers are outsiders… and it is none of their business how a voter is leaning.

The truth of the matter is that the following “hush-hush” undercurrent is running rampant about Obama which will cost him the election:

1. He’s lying about being a Muslim; 2. he needs to come clean on how long and how deep in-bed he is with former terrorist William Ayres; 3. he’s the Oak Tree from which the ACORN organization was hatched and allowed to fester; 4. he’s a Manchurian candidate; 5. he is a by-product of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, regardless of his speech that he never heard any of those controversial sermons; 6. why won’t he release his elongated birth certificate, or his Columbia college transcripts, etc., etc., etc.

Like it or not… these are real issues for regular folks. And, contrary to what some Democrats believe… many voters will not give up the last hope they have, which is the foundation of this great country… and ’sell-out’ their vote on a pocketbook or an economic platform only! But rather… broke folks, who have been broke all their lives, and are used to being broke… and who know how to make it in lean times if they have to, will NOT vote for a leader with as many “iffy variables” hanging over their head as Senator Obama has right now.

So, the time for presidential nominee Obama to come clean, produce those essential documents that John Q. Public wants to see… and answer those ‘whisper campaign’ questions that linger in the minds of the American people… is now. If not…reminiscent of the elections of 2000 and 2004, voters will march in droves to the ballot box on November 4th, and pull that lever for John McCain: the devil they do know instead of the devil they don’t know!

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:59 am 30. Dark Jethro:

“wow. repubranauts should really calm down. and stop crying. it will be business as usual when he gets elected…just like your man bush”

Wow, If that is the case, why bother voting for Obama? Thanks, I’m switching to McCain! heh.

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:00 am 31. geokstr:

Fred:

“I’m a slightly right of center voter here in the U.S…”

What a crock as exhibited by your next comment:
“any reading of the history details a violent militant fighting a violent and lying government – a violent and lying FBI and an America still seeped in racism and police brutality – not to mention, Ayers called the attacks in – hit symbolic military and government targets, was never accused of hurting anyone, and was let off the hook because the prosecutors pulled out every sneaky and illegal prosecutorial trick – not to mention that all this happened before many voters were even born and that ayers is a nationally respected education professor – whether you like it or not. This, of course, fails to examine McCain’s associations – such as G. Gordon Liddy – a convicted felon who worked heartily to undermine American democracy – and Americans are hip to the standard Neo-Con hypocrisy that sees no evil in right wing liars (Ollie North) and Criminals – do you think we’re THAT stupid?
Add to that the recent report detailing Palin’s abuse of power (unmentioned by Ms. Rubin”

This is typical left wing drool, much of it outright lies, of the kind found only on Kos and HuffPo, and I’m sick of you creeps posing as conservatives. Does Soros pay you by the post or does he get a group rate discount?

This Alinsky inspired propagandizing while posing as a conservative was actually formulated as a political tactic by a democrat strategist back in the 1990s to counteract the effect of Limbaugh and other conservative talk radio hosts. Leftists were instructed to swamp the lines, and start off by saying:

- “I’m a life long republican, but now…”

And immediately launch into the memorized leftist talking points.

We’ve seen it being done by the MSM this election as well. A good many of the “life-long republicans” they find and play up who are now voting for Obama turn out to be long-time democrats, members of the ACLU, code-pink members and others of that ilk. It was also used by the Obama campaign to attempt to close down a popular talk radio program just last month because they were having a couple Obama critics on.

Fred, please go back to HuffPo. Your attempts to impersonate a conservative are amateurish as best, and sociopathological at worst.

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:06 am 32. HonestAbe:

Good call St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

“Over the past nine months, Mr. Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, has emerged as the only truly transformative candidate in the race. In the crucible that is a presidential campaign, his intellect, his temperament and equanimity under pressure consistently have been impressive. He has surrounded himself with smart, capable advisers who have helped him refine thorough, nuanced policy positions.

In a word, Mr. Obama has been presidential.

Meanwhile, Mr. McCain, the senior senator from Arizona, became the incredible shrinking man. He shrank from his principled stands in favor of a humane immigration policy. He shrank from his universalcondemnation of torture and his condemnation of the politics of smear.

He even shrank from his own campaign slogan, “County First,” by selecting the least qualified running mate since the Swedenborgian shipbuilder Arthur Sewall ran as William Jennings Bryan’s No. 2 in 1896.

In making political endorsements, this editorial page is guided first by the principles espoused by Joseph Pulitzer in The Post-Dispatch Platform printed daily at the top of this page. Then we consider questions of character, life experience and intellect, as well as specific policy and issue positions. Each member of the editorial board weighs in.

On all counts, the consensus was clear: Barack Obama of Illinois should be the next president of the United States….

John McCain has served his country well, but in the end, he may have wanted the presidency a little too much, so much that he has sacrificed some of the principles that made him a heroic figure in war and in peace. In every way possible, he has earned the right to retire.

Finally, only at this late point do we note that Barack Obama is an African-American. Because of who he is and how he has run his campaign, that fact has become almost incidental to most Americans. Instead, his countrymen are weighing his talents, his values and his
beliefs, judging him not by the color of his skin, but the content of his character.

That says something profound and good — about him as a candidate and about us as a nation.”

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:08 am 33. Self-hating boomer:

I’m afraid the lesson will need to be repeated in our day. The demographic that supports Obama most strongly either were not born during the Carter years or were very young at the time (as in toddlers or infants). And it is going to be a painful lesson.

We’ll be fortunate if he follows the Carter model, and gets thrown out in disgrace after one term. It looks like things are shaping up for him to follow the FDR model however, where the worse things get, the bigger majority reelects him. Don’t be surprised if there’s a move to repeal the 22nd amendment in 2016; there seems to be a significant swath of the public who want a Dear Leader to lead them through a decade and a half of depression and world war, just like they wanted in 1932.

The only difference between 0bama and FDR is that FDR didn’t have to hide his cigarettes.

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:09 am 34. Gman:

Can the McCain Campaign Walk and Chew Gum at the Same Time?t

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:10 am 35. Jephnol:

Fred, nice whitewash of Ayers. A nationally respected academic? In what circles? The same circle that rushed to Ward Churchill’s defense? Or the same circle that gave birth to the “Gang of 88″? Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist; he has been closely associated with Obama for 21 years, but Obama claims not to have known of Ayers’ background; just as he claims to have not known of Wright’s radicalism. What a joke.

Obama has long standing ties to black racists, communists, domestic terrorists, felon chicago power brokers and the machine politics of Chicago. He has no record to speak of, so the only way we can evaluate the man is by his associations. Oh did I mention his work with ACORN and his campaigns strong ties to that organization?

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:19 am 36. bobby b:

” . . . it matters not how much money candidates spend on radio or television ads, most folks will believe the ‘whisper campaign’ information . . .”
– - – -

My 15-year-old came home from school yesterday and shared the wisdom his social studies “team teachers” had conferred on him and his class.

Hey, dad, didja know that McCain has been trying to scare people by claiming that Obama’s first goal is to get reparations paid to all black people by all white people, so that the blacks have all the money?

Hey, dad, didja know that everything McCain has been saying is a lie – that he lies almost as much as Bush lies?

Hey, dad, didja know that Obama wants us to treat the environment better before we kill the whole earth? And that McCain just wants to give as much money to his friends in the oil companies as possible, and he doesn’t care if the air turns into poison because rich people can live in pressurized houses if they want to?

Hey, dad . . . .

Uh, son, sit down. It’s time we had a talk. . . .

(Meeting with the student dean this afternoon. Should be fun. But the whispering campaign is going full-bore, for sure.)

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:30 am 37. Jay Hughes:

Ms. Rubin, your post provides a thoughtful list of advice for Obama. I sense in many conservative commentators an almost resignation that McCain (is not likely to pull it out see Fivethirtyeight.com, which now puts Obama’s chances of victory at about 94%) and choose to contribute to a measured debate rather than desperately rail at voters alsong the lines of “you fools — can’t you see that this Obama guys is freakin’ dangerous!?”

One of the sleeping issues that the McCain camp is apparently only now thinking to raise is that of the benefits of having the presidency in the hands of a different party than that which controls the White House. Out here in uber-liberal California, we’ve had predominately Republican governors to match up against our perpetually Democratic Legislature. I think there’s an implicit thought that it’s okay to have progressive social positions in our laws, but we want someone as the final gatekeeper to stop big spending. But, McCain has been loathe to take this route because it requires an admission that the Republicans will not re-take either house of Congress. Since their chances are now effectively zero, it’s probably a course for him to take.

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:58 am 38. Sarah:

If it’s any consolation, I live in central Ohio and I’m seeing McCain/Palin signs 20:1 everywhere I drive. The media is bogus, we;ll see where the cards fall on election day, that is if ACORN doesn’t get there first.

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:59 am 39. Rex:

Forget about the connection with Ayers. Thye Ayers connection is not so troubling because he’s an unrepentent terrorist, but because he’s an anti-capitalist.

Here’s the question that needs to be asked of Obama: “What, exactly, do you find so attractive about the philosophy of socialism?”

Oct 13, 2008 - 9:07 am 40. CALIndie:

HonestAbe – “In a word, Mr. Obama has been presidential.”

The last time I looked Abe, POTUS was still a job, a very tough job. Since it is a job wouldn’t it be appropriate to “hire” someone with a proven skill set applicable to the job? Oh, that’s right, Obama has no executive leadership or management skills. None, zero, zippo, nada! But he sure is friendly!

Here’s what every business owner small and large knows about hiring someone to do a job. If you hire based on how you “feel” about someone and don’t get to the bottom of their ABILITY to do the job you might as well flush your money down the toilet. This universal truth of hiring does not bode well for Barack Hussein Obama.

What you and your socialist trolls here on PJM try to sell is that since you drink the messiah (little m) kool-aid while wearing your rose colored glasses to shade Obama’s shady character and associations, you expect the rest of us to do the same. Oh, how Presidential he looks! Oh, how nuanced he is! Oh, how he speaks so well! And finally, oh, how African-American he is!

HonestAbe wrote: “Finally, only at this late point do we note that Barack Obama is an African-American.” Way to close strong Abe, you racist!

What a bunch of drivel! I’m sure you and your ilk will have persuaded a few useful idiots with your 450 million dollar marketing campaign and 2 years of free mass marketing by the MSM. With all the slick marketing, clever deceptions and timely disassociations of Obamas ship of pirates shouldn’t you be up just a little more than 4-6 points up right now?

Americans want to elect someone with PROVEN experience and a PROVEN track record to lead this country not a slick talking shoe salesman who will say anything to close the deal… yes sir, those shoes will stretch, yes sir, they hurt now but they’ll feel better tomorrow, oh yes sir, those shoes are expensive but aren’t you worth it! LOL! Barack Hussein Obama is an imposter and a sheister on the highest order! Good luck, have some more kool-aid!

Oct 13, 2008 - 9:22 am 41. Robert Speirs:

I wonder how much the Obamapests get paid to infiltrate what they perceive as “right wing” comment threads? Luckily their stupidity and absence of knowledge of truth and falsehood give them away immediately.

Oct 13, 2008 - 9:33 am 42. Sarah:

Dear Robert Speirs,
Their payment comes after Obama is elected in the form of “free healthcare,” “$1,000 checks to those that live on main street,” and “change” all at the expense, of course, of those that actually pay taxes. Obama definitely has the “welfare funded” vote in his pocket, it’s those of us that actually think and work for ourselves that know what a sheister he is. There is no such thing as a “free lunch” people, that also includes “free ride to the vote booth” too!

Oct 13, 2008 - 9:58 am 43. Believer:

How about asking Barry directly,

“Why don’t you show more care for some of your fellow citizens? For the citizens you’re asking to trust you with the most important job IN THE WORLD – one that will affect every aspect of their lives?”

“Some are concerned you haven’t been leveling with them. And you don’t seem to care at all. One member of your own Party – a Democrat – is an experienced appellate lawyer who has filed a lawsuit ordering you to produce the appropriate birth records that prove you’re a citizen qualified to run for this high office.”

“You haven’t answered this suit. Does this man annoy you? Are you so arrogant you can’t be bothered with the legitimate concerns of your fellow citizens? There are many who worry about your secrecy – your lies – and you could go a long way toward reassuring them. But you seem content to ignore those concerns, either dodging or outright lying about some very important issues to them.”

“Do you treat your family – your wife in particular – with the same disrespect?”

*******

Sometimes I feel like I’m in some kind of Twilight Zone. This can’t be my America.

Forget about Earth getting hit by a meteor from outer space. A far more destructive force is walking around – breathing – right here among us. And we’re wearing happy faces.

Oct 13, 2008 - 10:14 am 44. Mike_K:

Axelrod has a long history of using “astroturf” commenters to influence opinion. That is what we see here with theswe “lifelong Republicans”. You rarely get to see it exposed but James Taranto had a great example. The paper does not allow the link anymore (I wonder why?) so here is the text:

The Lebanon (Pa.) Daily News carries a letter to the editor from Christopher Tarsa, who makes the case for crossing party lines to support Barack Obama:

As a Republican and strong McCain supporter in 2000, I was disappointed and saddened in 2004 when McCain permanently traded in his maverick credentials and sold out his principles to support George W. Bush. I now find it equally disturbing to see him gamble our security and future with a reckless choice for a running mate.
Gov. Sarah Palin clearly has a bright future in politics. She may even have the depth and diversity of experience to be a vice-presidential candidate four years from now.
The McCain ticket, with all of its newfound “freshness” and despite all of the claims, has quickly devolved into the politics-as-usual that we have come to expect in the last eight years. McCain and Palin quickly emerged from the rhetoric of their convention as the uniters of dividers.
I talk politics with a lot of people from all walks of life. I find it compelling that many of the ordinary Republicans I talk to understand that their families cannot afford another four years like the last eight. We all deserve better.
But the paper appends a tagline that rather undercuts Tarsa’s claim to speak “as a Republican”: “Tarsa is chairman of the Lebanon County Democratic Committee.” Apparently party lines run right through Christopher Tarsa.

Oct 13, 2008 - 10:25 am 45. AlexinCT:

HonestAbe – “In a word, Mr. Obama has been presidential.”

This reminds me of that “But I slept at the Holiday Inn last night” line of commericals:

Obama: I am really not qualified to be president, but the MSM stooges, the leftist idiots that are impressed with my used car salesman’s charm, and the large support of those organizations that will help me steal this election all have made it look so…

America is doomed if this colelctivist mobster from Chicago wins. And I am being generous. All these lefitist idiots that think they will make out under this loser have a nasty surprise coming to them.

Oct 13, 2008 - 10:26 am 46. nobozons:

BO IS PART OF THE PROBLEM!

Oct 13, 2008 - 10:33 am 47. Fred:

Jeph says:

“Fred, nice whitewash of Ayers. A nationally respected academic? In what circles? The same circle that rushed to Ward Churchill’s defense? Or the same circle that gave birth to the “Gang of 88″? Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist; he has been closely associated with Obama for 21 years, but Obama claims not to have known of Ayers’ background; just as he claims to have not known of Wright’s radicalism. What a joke.”

Ayers has been CLOSELY associated with Obama.

can you even find a SINGLE photo of the two together?

didn’t think so.

Oct 13, 2008 - 11:04 am 48. HonestAbe:

Alex, the left is so wrong, huh? 8 years of the right has been what, a spectacular success?

CALIndie, calling me a racist is absolutely hilarious. If you only knew. By the way, did you understand that the quote was from the St. Louis Dispatch, and not my words?

For both of you, I’m trying to point you to an article that illustrates an important point. That the past 18 months are a useful indicator for leadership – for team Obama. His camp has won the nomination, raised tremendous capital and surrounded itself with strong advisors (not Carly Fiorina for example). If you want some evidence of competence, look no further than this campaign. Which group selected a bobblhead (Palin)? Which group has been thrashing around with policy proposals, hate speech and political stunts (I’m suspending my campaing – I’m for small gov’t, oh here’s my $300 B direct mortgage buyout, the economoy is strong, etc. etc.)

I’m giving you evidence. You’re throwing back ridiculous talking points about the evil left.

Oct 13, 2008 - 11:06 am 49. AdrianS:

The October Surprise—Suit To Remove Barack Obama From The Ballot. Barack Obama And The Democratic National Committee Are Committing Fraud On The American People

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w&eurl=http://obamacrimes.com/

Barack Hussein Obama is dangerous for America:
http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=32

Oct 13, 2008 - 11:28 am 50. HonestAbe:

Adrian,for your information:

from Newsweek…yeah yeah, all media sources (except yours) are illegitimate…

“Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam. But rumors about his religion intended to frighten some voters persist, and they mostly return to one point of fact: his name. “Barack” is the candidate’s Kenyan father’s name; Obama’s middle name, “Hussein,” is his grandfather’s name. Obama has described his father as atheist or agnostic. His Kansan mom, whose grandparents were devout Protestants, lived a secular life. Obama’s only personal contact with Islam came as a boy when he moved to Jakarta, Indonesia, with a stepfather who mixed his Islam with Hindu and Animist traditions. In five years there, Obama attended a Roman Catholic school, then a public elementary school, where he sat through a class each week of religious studies. As an adult, Obama turned to Christianity in the late ’80s in Chicago, at Trinity United Church of Christ, where he was baptized, married‹and baptized his kids. As a new U.S. senator, Obama took his oath on the family Bible.”

But hey, linking to a blog that calls Obama a “National Security Threat” is not hate speech…no it’s a well reasoned argument…maybe for Sarah Palin it is.

Oct 13, 2008 - 11:37 am 51. Ed Wallis:

Maybe it would “help” (/sarc) Obama if he came clean on his involvement with ACORN :

Obama Supporters Deserting over ACORN scandal
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=3751

Obama Supporters Desert Messiah Over ACORN Scandal (Oct 11)
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html

Barack Obama’s ACORN Tree
http://www.gop.com/ObamaAcornTree/

Oct 13, 2008 - 11:39 am 52. proud elitist:

HonestAbe: Nothing unusual about PJMers throuwing back ridiculous talking points about the evil left.

QUESTION: Why has there yet to be a PJM thread regarding Branchflower’s report regarding Palin’s conduct in the Monegan affair? It has been news since Friday evening…

One large difference between 2004 and 2008 is that the MSM did not turn their back on GWB the way they have turned their collective backs on McCain(/Palin). Finally, on Friday, McCain chided his rallying crowd regarding Obama as a terrorist, etc. Finally.

I do not believe that Obama is sitting pretty. Campaign appearances are still going on, the campaign is still fighting for its votes in states. What is surprising about now time is the campaign stops McCain/Palin are making in formerly very red states.

One note about ACORN: it’s about Voter Registration Fraud, not voter fraud. There is a significant difference in terms of fake registrations vs. fake votes***

***review history of Karl Rove for differences.

Oct 13, 2008 - 11:43 am 53. CALIndie:

HonestAbe – “calling me a racist is absolutely hilarious. If you only knew. By the way, did you understand that the quote was from the St. Louis Dispatch, and not my words?”

If only I knew what Abe? How compassionate you are for promoting the racial divide? How caring you are for spreading class warfare? How kind you are to tax small businesses that represents 50% of business in America to pay for more government waste, bureaucracy, fraud, entitlements, grants, ear marks, pork, WASTE, WASTE, WASTE!

Oh yea, we know about you Abe and it has nothing to do with honest. You are racist otherwise race would not matter. It is that simple. What happened to “…the content of a man’s character and not the color of his skin.” you moron. There is no compassion in you for mainstream Americans that raise strong, productive children who start strong, innovative companies that create strong domestic job markets. You and Barack Obama are fools!

HonestAbe is also a racist that wants massive government redistribution of wealth from industrious Americans to inner city waste and corruption because Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have made racism fashionable. BRILLIANT! You are a cancer on decency and humanity as a whole. You and every liberal socialist, communist, marxist like you want individual freedom, liberty and property rights to be flushed down the toilet. Oh yea, we know you all too well Abe! Prove me wrong I dare you, you collectivist, racist imbecile!

Oct 13, 2008 - 11:57 am 54. HonestAbe:

CALIndie, you are shockingly stupid. I placed the entire quote from The Dispatch. The part I wanted to highlight about the quality of the campaigns had nothing to do with race nor is it a reflection of my sentiments or the Obama campaign.

Patriot Act, a liberal initiative or a Bush initiative? A record number of signing statements, the left or a Bush phenomenon? DOJ firings, a Bush disgrace or the left? The left is the bogey man, huh?

Your foaming at the moment tirade aside, I think you have a legitimate point about the scope of Obama’s federal program – a very legitimate point. You should stick to articulating why those are necessarily wasteful and why historically, basic research and infrastructure programs have reduced long term wealth (or have they). I would be happy to discuss that with you.

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:11 pm 55. CALIndie:

proudelitist – “QUESTION: Why has there yet to be a PJM thread regarding Branchflower’s report regarding Palin’s conduct in the Monegan affair? It has been news since Friday evening…

Maybe because the news you idiot said Gov. Palin had every right to fire her safety director. Gov. Palin did NOTHING illegal or unethical. Maybe because these partisan hack legislators who have proclaimed allegiance to Barack Hussein Obama, could in the end, only say Todd Palin should not have tried to defend his family from terrorist threats and child abuse.

Because Todd Palin stood up for his family in the face of this horrendous, dangerous, psycho trooper Gov. Palin should have told Todd to let it go and say nothing…just chill Todd, he probably won’t kill dear old dad as he threatened! So there’s your “abuse of power,” speaking the truth and standing up for what’s right is abusive. BRILLIANT!

This is classic evidence of the psychopathology that liars, cheats and cons like you and HonestAbe want to perpetrate on America. Your carefully crafted web of deception ultimately ensnares your own twisted logic. So, now good is bad and bad is good (read: Barack Obama). Don’t even respond to this because I don’t want to hear your lunacy.

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:15 pm 56. HonestAbe:

CALIndie, in 1994, on his radio program, G. Gordon Liddy made the following statement: If ATF agents attempt to curtail a citizen’s gun ownership, Liddy counseled, “Well, if the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they’re going to be wearing bulletproof vests.”

Liddy has hosted McCain fundraisers and McCain was on his show just a couple years ago. Can you please explain how this relationship is different from the Ayers relationship?

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:24 pm 57. timo:

Wow, right wingers here on this blog seem pretty uptight, full of hatred and afraid of the democratic right of the people to vote for what they believe represents the outrageous political philosophy of fairness.

Look at the reality in this election; damaged economoy, war and death based on lies and working people sleeping in their cars. I’ll vote for fairness I think.

Oh and CALIndie, could you calm it a little? This is called debate. I know people’s opinions infuriate you, but people do think differently to you. It’s called democracy. Calling people imbeciles, sheisters, idiots, socialist trolls is really just rather childish and shows you a little incapabable of that democratic right: debate. So, remember, my opinions are equal to yours, even though they are different. If it ain’t true, it’s called fascism or communism. Ans we’re against those things right? Right.

Good luck with democracy. If you lose, commiserations, if you win, the very best of luck.

You see, angry rightists, even if you lose – you get another go!!

So calm down. Please.

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:31 pm 58. Believer:

I don’t know how anyone can deny the long-term relationship between the Obama and Ayers families.

They go back to their years (late 1980’s?) together at the Sidley lawfirm. All three worked there together: Dohrn, Obama and Michelle. It’s been said Ayers’ dad, the super wealthy, influential “godfather” of Chicago politics – Tom Ayers – got Obama his job there. It would seem he most likely got Dohrn her job there as well since it couldn’t have been easy after being on the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted List.

Americanthinker.com has an article by Cashill: “Who Wrote Dreams From My Father?” on 10/09 — it makes a pretty good case that it wasn’t Barry afterall, but Ayers. He’s analyzed their writings and concludes it’s too well-written for the would-be messiah, and too similar to Ayers’ style.

You don’t want to miss Barry’s “poetry.” What a talent!

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:40 pm 59. KD:

It appears Mr. Obama is duping the “middle class” mostly by implying only “rich” businessmen will worry about being taxed. $250,000 threshold for buz tax seems like a lot, but the Small Business Association (?) quotes that 17 categories of “small businesses” are at minimum those that make $750,000 or more, most actually in the millions of $$. So the wolf in sheep’s clothing here is really attacking the middle class after all, since most small businesses will see an increase in tax. And let’s be honest- $250K isn’t much these days. The only people who will benefit from his tax breaks are those on the government welfare rolls who already aren’t paying taxes, and they’ll get back “our” money! How silly is that? And how unjust. But then, all the Obama proselytes don’t need logic, they just need luck. GO MC CAIN, AND KICK THAT X@%9!

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:52 pm 60. Brian G.:

The actual elections don’t mean anything. Just ask the Democrat nominee Hillary Clinton.

I seem to recall that some “experts” had Kerry winning 330 electoral votes.

If Obama actually wins, it is gonna be close. However, to the Democrats, the only thing to determine in the election is how many racists we have in this country, because everyone knows that only racists will vote against Obama. Just ask them.

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:54 pm 61. Martini:

This is a great article….he has come to far to get complacent. I dont see himd doing but the supporters need to keep fighting as if he is down 10!

Oct 13, 2008 - 12:59 pm 62. HonestAbe:

“Obama and Ayers attended at least six meetings together over six years, Annenberg Challenge records show, and those knowledgeable of the school reform group say it is likely there were other informal sessions of the group that they both attended. But no one on the board or on the Annenberg Challenge staff remembers Obama being any closer to Ayers than to any other member of the board. The Annenberg board also included several civic, business and education leaders, many of them Republicans.
…
Regardless of his background, it was never a problem for anyone — including Republicans and Chicago’s most powerful business leaders — to work with Ayers on Chicago’s public schools. In fact, Ayers is widely respected in the field of urban education.
“It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier,” said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. “It’s ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It’s nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It’s so silly.”

On the Annenberg Board, from NPR (I know I know, another damnable news organization that presents facts and primary source materials, damn media – oh but not Fox, just other outlets..sometimes CNN when it was pro-war..oh aaaand I think CBS when it failed to talk about signing statements or the suspension of habeas corpus..but yeah the MEDIA is in it for Obama)

Oct 13, 2008 - 1:06 pm 63. proud elitist:

CALindie — you also have Palin’s Teh Stoopid problem regarding reading and understanding what one reads…

Read the report. Finding #1 — violated ethics/ abused power. (Oh, and person invading my county, I can/did read — the firing of Monegan was legal. However, see Finding #1). Of course, cheers to the “First Stalker” for his awesome investigative skills. Mad skills that man has, mad skills. I bet he can ride a snowmobile, shoot a moose, jump into a plan and shoot a wolf, then jump down into his cronies-helped-me-build-it home and have dinner on the table before Hockey Mom gets home.

AGAIN, PJM writers, why is there not even a thread on PJM crying FOUL! over the meanies on the left that railroaded this investigation and hijacked it up in Alaska? No thread whatsoever by the ol’ farts in PJs about how totally right they were.

I challenge any of you righties not to quote American Thinker when blathering on about Ayers. Or Corsi. Or FoxNews.

HonestAbe: Again, they cannot. These people don’t even know who Liddy is. (HINT: we’re not talking about a female or a Dole)

timo, nice words. It’s okay, though. You get used to it here — the insults. I just repeat my mantra “OH, Teh Stoopid!”

Oct 13, 2008 - 1:27 pm 64. Howard:

In an ideal world, complete cooperation between different countries creates roads paved with gold, leading to a global utopia. But, historically, and in the real world, human nature and nationalism seem to return individual country’s to a goal of self interest and national security. Rogue leaders and unexpected events, such as Putin and Georgia … Iran, atomic bombs, terrorists and Israel … Chavez’s ambitions … Al Quada … Chinese expansion … etc., always seem to upset the international apple cart of idealists. In addition, we should not take for granted our 200+ year experiment of freedom and capitalism, and be so willing to gamble it away for a socialistic notion which stifles the individual innovation and initiative which made this country great … and a standard of living which makes everyone around the world want to live here! And, since many have decided to also make this a partisan political discourse, by assuring us that Obama, the messiah, has all the answers, allow me to respond to that as well. Obama has no experience, or credentials. When given the chance in the senate, Obama did nothing except to show up and vote present 160 times. Despite his flowery speeches, his track record reveals a focus on personal ambition, associations with anti-American racists and terrorists, massive flip flopping, questionable loyalty to political positions and long time friends, a desire for socialism, and forced redistribution of America’s wealth. He casually promises everyone a chicken in every pot, even if it is the chicken that lays America’s golden eggs. Economics 101 … Every farmer knows that even if you get real hungry, you never eat the seed crop. One of the reasons McCain keeps going back to the issue of character is because although Obama makes great speeches, if his character and integrity are questionable, it doesn’t matter how good his plans sound. Policies and promises from an ambitious politician who can’t be trusted, are equivalent to building a utopian sky scrapper on a rotten foundation.
P.S. Today Obama talked about more jobs, something McCain has been insisting on since day one … except Obama wants to raise taxes to the very people who provide jobs, while McCain wants to cut taxes to businesses as a way to promote jobs

Oct 13, 2008 - 2:03 pm 65. aloysiusmiller:

Obama wants to register women for a possible draft

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08287/919582-470.stm?cmpid=elections.xml

Oct 13, 2008 - 2:21 pm 66. Reverand Jeremiah Wrighte and Bll Ayers:

G)(*) Damn Amerikka!!!!

Obama ‘08

Oct 13, 2008 - 4:37 pm 67. Bill Ayers:

CALindie — you also have Palin’s Teh Stoopid problem regarding reading and understanding what one reads…

Read the report. Finding #1 — violated ethics/ abused power. (Oh, and person invading my county, I can/did read — the firing of Monegan was legal. However, see Finding #1). Of course, cheers to the “First Stalker” for his awesome investigative skills. Mad skills that man has, mad skills. I bet he can ride a snowmobile, shoot a moose, jump into a plan and shoot a wolf, then jump down into his cronies-helped-me-build-it home and have dinner on the table before Hockey Mom gets home.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Another liberal speaks in support of Domestic Violence – as long as its against Republicans. Don’t taze me bro!

Oct 13, 2008 - 4:45 pm 68. proud elitist:

“Domestic Violence”?

Is this the same “violence” where the stepson asked to be tased, was tased, all the while mamma (Ms. Heath-Wooten) was upstairs and niece/cousin Bristol was in the room?

The same “violence” where the kid ran upstairs post-tasing to brag about it?

The same “violence” where the kid wanted to be tased to prove to cousin Bristol he was tough?

Again, TEH STOOPID.

Oct 13, 2008 - 5:10 pm 69. Believer:

Here we go again. If Bill Ayers is such a whistle clean, great guy, why has BO lied about his relationship with him? “Just some neighbor, a professor…”

Why does a woman say “There’s no reason at all to SMEAR Barack Obama with this association.”?(emph. mine) Why not say instead, “There’s no reason to FEAR this association.”? He’s one great guy, doncha know!

Yes he is. This man was pictured on the day of?/after? 9/11/01 – yes that day – in some magazine saying the famous, “No, I don’t regret the bombings, in fact I don’t think we did enough.” (Only a handful of people were killed, including a couple of police officers.)

That would be like the bomb he designed — but allowed his girlfriend and two friends to build — which fortunately killed them accidentally rather than the officers at Ft. Dix and their girlfriends. (I’ll bet he was thinking he’d like a ‘do-ver’ on that one.)

But it was the lovely picture of him in that magazine, as he recalled his earlier radical life, that I found so unforgettable. You might have seen it. It’s the one with him standing on the American flag.

That’s his – and Barry’s? – idea of patriotism, I guess. (And, sure, let’s have this guy teach our kids!)

Do you think Someone was trying to tell us something with the uncanny coincidence of this article — featuring Barry’s terrorist pal — being published almost at the very moment the worst attack in our nation’s history was being perpetrated?

Oct 13, 2008 - 6:32 pm 70. Frank Logan:

Most of the smart people on this thread know that a certain percentage of Hillary democrats are going to vote for McCain.
Each democrat that votes for McCain is also one less for Obama. For example, in 2004, in Pa., John Kerry, Dem received 2,885,773 votes (50.8%) vs. George Bush Rep 2,756,904 (48.6) Kerry won by 129,000 votes. If 10% of Kerry’s voters had voted for Bush, the result would be 3,045,000 for Bush vs. 2,597,000 for Kerry. Bush would have won by 448,000. The polls, I’ve seen indicate that 28% of Hillary’s supporters are voting for McCain. What I’m trying to tell you is that the democratic party is split, and McCain is going to win in a landslide, no matter what kind of campaign he runs. IT IS A DONE DEAL.

Oct 13, 2008 - 6:40 pm 71. Believer:

You guys have to go to “youtube.com” and type in

“Harlem Voters”

Howard Stern had Sal interview “Obama voters” and asked them if they were voting for him because of his wanting to keep all troops in Iraq and finish the war, and because of his prolife stance, etc. — all McCain’s positions — and they said, “Oh, yes.”

They even agreed with Sal that they’d vote for him because he’d picked Sarah Palin for his Veep! “Oh, yes!!”

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:04 pm 72. Chip:

The Ayers connection is a fundamental issue because most of the money funneled out of Annenberg never made it into the schools. The money was used for street based militancy.

Obama is a candidate of little experience who just happens to be connected with a long laundry list of social revolutionaries.

Tony Rezko is perhaps the only one who is purely in it for the money, unless of course, you look at how much money he has actually sent back to Syria. ( That is right…Rezko isn’t Polish. Rezko is only one generation removed from his relatives in Syria who happen to support Hamas.)
Rev. Wright is living in a $10 million dollar mansion, but I suspect that he really does enjoy being a pulpit radical.

If Hollywood were to make a movie about all the shady characters that Obama has associated with, they would probably throw out the script. Why? Because it would be considered a bit too far fetched and unrealistic for a candidate that was actually running for the US presidency.

I still think there are plenty of people who love this country far too much to actually let this fraud move into the White House.

Oct 13, 2008 - 7:38 pm 73. fred:

Frank Logan,

Do you think some of the media polling organizations are doing “push polling” techniques in order to discourage McCain turnout?

No matter how discouraged I’ve been – and I’m still very discouraged – I have no intention of either voting for that long-legged mack daddy or staying away from the voting booth. I will do my duty as a citizen, as I always have since 1976, and be a patriot.

It’s the demographics of the Obama polls that discourage me. The age group 18-29 is extremely high double digits for Obama, especially SINGLE, WHITE FEMALE VOTERS, especially urban settings.

Overwhelmingly, city people like uber liberal social-cultural norms/policies, high income redistribution, and generous government teat.

The real divide in America is not Red State/Blue State. It’s urban vs. rural, young vs. older, and female vs. male.

P.S. And I’m not a “redneck.” I have two masters’ degrees and am a working investment professional, who happens to live in a rural setting. I am a “bitter clinger to guns and religion” who more than twenty years ago was a Marxist.

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:11 pm 74. Judy, NYC:

tony from ireland: i have an intelligent irish friend who lives in dublin and he was apoplectic that i didn’t hate palin, and worse that i wasn’t enthusiastic in the least about obama. his response to my defending palin was condescending at best. it is strange that ireland is taking such a vigorous position on our politics, when like other europeans, they seem to have very few actual facts to inform them. i noticed when the primaries were going on, the same thing happened. there was this overwhelming support for obama and very nasty stuff about hillary clinton in the irish media. i find the european obsession with barry obama very creepy. what’s up with that?

Oct 13, 2008 - 8:28 pm 75. maxd:

Fascinating. You all surely must realize how desperate it’s become, that your sole focus and rage is on two (2) friends/acquaintances/associates (whatever) of Obamas? Think about it. That’s the nut of your opposition, now. “He’s friends with a guy who was a domestic terrorist 40 years ago! He went to church where the pastor doesn’t LOVE America like I LOVE America!” Over, and over, and over. All you’ve got. Sad. Oh, and you don’t like his name. Very well-considered opposition. Embarrassing.

I’m wondering, though: Should the Secret Service be paying “Chip” a visit? What do you mean by that comment, Chip? “I still think there are plenty of people who love this country far too much to actually let this fraud move into the White House.” You might want to clarify that statement, you sick ****.

Oct 13, 2008 - 9:35 pm 76. Chip:

“It’s the demographics of the Obama polls that discourage me. The age group 18-29 is extremely high double digits for Obama, especially SINGLE, WHITE FEMALE VOTERS, especially urban settings.”

The theory of Socialism often appeals to youth in general, but they realistically have no frame of reference as to how miserable it can become to actually have to live in a socialistic environment.

I know a man who immigrated from the former USSR. He now works for a major food chain. The one thing that impressed him the most when he first came to this country was how the public washrooms all had TP in them. He marveled at how people controlled themselves and didn’t walk off with it all. I guess I will never have to wait 3 hours in a line to pick up TP from the local commissary like he had to. All along hoping that the supply would not run out.

Oct 13, 2008 - 9:53 pm 77. Tony:

Judy NYC,

Its just one of those things I’m afraid – obviously the US elections only directly effect US citizens so to everyone outside the US the results are really only of passing interest. Europeans are spoonfed their understanding of US politics via a liberal education system and a liberal media so its not hard to see where the Republican-bad/Democrat-good assumptions come from.

The vast majority really dont actually care one way or the other. To most people they like the look and sound of Obama so they want him to win in much the same way that they’ll pick a favourite team for the Superbowl but will forget about the result within a week one way or the other.

Oct 14, 2008 - 2:32 am 78. Sheila:

Hi Judy NYC – I too live in Ireland and I agree with everything Tony has to say.

A lot of people over here do realise that Obama would be a disaterous choice for the US – and by default, Ireland. However, like in the US, these people are not too common in the media. It sickens me how Palin is described as “offensive” (the headline of a major Irish newspaper, the allegedly conservative newspaper as well) for attacking Obama on Ayers. Yet, at no time do any of the papers actually cover the Ayers story (though saying that, out of disgust, I have given up reading the newspapers).

You have to remember as well, many Irish Americans vote democrat, because years ago, apparently the democrats would hand out a crisp $20 to each new immigrant arriving at Ellis Island.

Oct 14, 2008 - 3:51 am 79. Marc Malone:

Too many lefties on this thread to address you all by name, so I’ll address the flawed input.

Ethics report – Non-issue. All they found was she MIGHT have violated Ethics. Not did: might. They also didn’t have the authority to issue findings; only recommendations… but they did anyway. Nothing unexpected. They said they’d offer October surprise. The Pubs want to bring her down a peg, and the Dems want to supplant her. That’s what happens when you govern from the middle. Everyone’s your enemy. ASk McCain.

Association issues is all we have. – Um, no. This is the most IMPORTANT issue, but not the only one. Obama’s foreign policy is infantile. His domestic policy is Socialistic. He’s an empty suit, exactly like Carter. He even gets the same press coverage as Carter, who was also about “change”, and was “transformative”.

Yes, they do have pictures of Obama with Ayers… chilling in a cafe or bar. Obama had a big afro. Ayers looked hippie-like.

My worry is the woman vote. When I watched the debates on CNN, the men were responsive to Obama, but the women were highly responsive when he started promising them all the goodies. When are women going to learn when a guy’s just trying to get into their pants? Same old stuff.

Problem is, women are feeling very insecure, so the promises to take care of them really resonates. The guys aren’t buying so much, because they’re not looking for someone to take care of them. So much for women’s lib. When times get tough, they start looking for a man to provide for them. Sadly, the man is some politician. Wham, bam, thank you, ma’am.

That’s what happens when the women handle the bills, instead of the men doing that job. Men are supposed to protect their women, including from the stress of paying the danged bills, but women handle the money in 95% of households.

My point is that women are going to decide this election, and I suspect they’ll be making the wrong choice. They’ll be voting for the chicken in every pot promise, and so will screw the country and themselves.

Oct 14, 2008 - 4:39 am 80. Frank Logan:

Marc Malone, Who do you think make up the majority of the 28% of Hillary supporters who hate Obama’s guts? Women, that’s who. Here are 2 links for you. The first is about Hillary supporters working against Obama in Pa. The 2nd is a 2004, Red County/Blue County map of the US to put it all in perspective for you. McCain wins in a landslide. Do the Math.
http://www.timesleader.com/news/Dem_group__backing__McCain_10-06-2008.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm

Oct 14, 2008 - 5:20 am 81. Frank Logan:

Just for good measure, here is a link to some of the blogs of Hillary supporters that either support McCain, or remain neutral. I recommend going to No Quarters and reading the comments, if you want to see hostility toward Obama.

http://blogosphere.changeandexperience.com/2008/06/hillary-blogosphere.html

Oct 14, 2008 - 5:38 am 82. Otis:

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961.

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954

Cincinnati, OH (3rd) .. since 1984

Cleveland, OH (4th) .. since 1989

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor

St. Louis, MO (6th) .. since 1949

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor

Milwaukee, WI (8th) .. since 1908

Philadelphia, PA (9th) .. since 1952

Newark, NJ (10th) .. since 1907

Einstein once said, ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.’

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats yet are still disadvantaged. (writer unknown)

Oct 14, 2008 - 6:25 am 83. Otis:

Pull out of Iraq?!?!

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?

Body count:

In the last six months:

292 killed
(murdered) in Chicago;

221 killed in Iraq.

Chicago…. Who Runs it: Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin

Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.,

Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich,

Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,

Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),

Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)

…..our leadership in Illinois…..all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.

Of course, they’re all blaming each other!

Can’t blame Republicans; they’re aren’t any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.

Cook County
(Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look ‘em up if you want).

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.

And he’s gonna ‘fix’ Washington politics for us?

Wake Up America!

Pull out of Iraq?!?!

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?
Body count:
In the last six months:

292 killed
(murdered) in Chicago;

221 killed in Iraq.

Chicago…. Who Runs it: Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin

Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.,

Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich,

Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,

Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),
Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)
…..our leadership in Illinois…..all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.
Of course, they’re all blaming each other!
Can’t blame Republicans; they’re aren’t any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.

Cook County
(Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look ‘em up if you want).

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.
And he’s gonna ‘fix’ Washington politics for us?
Wake Up America

Oct 14, 2008 - 6:26 am 84. Frank Logan:

Fred, I don’t have any idea about the polls, I just know that historically, they’ve been wrong. What is certain is the democratic party is split. Roughly 14% of people who have always voted for democrats are voting for McCain in this election. Follow the links in comments 80 & 81 and you will see how wide is the split. Each of these votes does double duty. It subtracts one from Obama and adds one to McCain. When you run these numbers against the state by state results in 2004, it becomes apparent that Obama will not likely succeed no matter what McCain, MSM, or ACORN does, or does not do.

Oct 14, 2008 - 8:08 am 85. TimM:

I don’t think Obama thinks he has this won by any means. Some of his supporters do, perhaps. But the loudest voices saying that Obama thinks he has this won is coming from the right wing talking heads.

Obama, though, knows this is far from over. Three weeks is a lifetime in 21st century elections.

Oct 14, 2008 - 10:10 am 86. Frank Logan:

TimM, Obama does’nt seem to know anything except that he wants to be president. For reasons listed above this race has effectively been over, since the primaries split the democratic party.

Oct 14, 2008 - 11:16 am 87. Freida:

Palin blasts Obama for opposing legal protections for infant abortion survivors
CNA ^ | October 14, 2008

Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:53:00 by NYer

Gov. Sarah Palin

Johnstown, Oct 14, 2008 / 06:15 am (CNA).- Republican vice-presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin, in a speech at a Saturday rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, has attacked what she called Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama’s “extreme and troubling” stand on abortion. Palin argued that there are few issues more important than who is protected under law and insisted that everyone “belongs in the circle of protection.”

“As defenders of the culture of life, John McCain and I believe in the goodness and potential of every innocent life,” Gov. Palin began. “I believe the truest measure of any society is how it treats those who are least able to defend and speak for themselves. And who is more vulnerable, or more innocent, than a child?”

“Every innocent life matters,” she continued. “Everyone belongs in the circle of protection. Every child has something to contribute to the world, if we give them that chance. There are the world’s standards of perfection … and then there are God’s, and these are the final measure. Every child is beautiful before God, and dear to Him for their own sake.”

Palin recalled how she greeted the news that her youngest son Trig would have “special needs” before turning to an attack upon Sen. Obama.

“At first I was scared, and Todd and I had to ask for strength and understanding. But I can tell you a few things I’ve learned already. … As for our beautiful baby boy, for Todd and me, he is only more precious because he is vulnerable. In some ways, I think we stand to learn more from him than he does from us. When we hold Trig and care for him, we don’t feel scared anymore. We feel blessed,” Palin said.

“It’s hard to think of many issues that could possibly be more important than who is protected in law and who isn’t – who is granted life and who is denied it. So when our opponent, Senator Obama, speaks about questions of life, I listen very carefully.”

Palin attacked Obama’s remarks he made in a Johnstown appearance about not wanting his daughters “punished with a baby.”

“It’s about time we called him on it,” she said, charging that the Democratic presidential candidate is “vague and evasive” on the subject.

Palin argued that Obama has voted against bills to end partial-birth abortion, citing Democratic Sen. Patrick Moynihan’s description of the procedure as “too close to infanticide.”

She then noted Obama’s Illinois Senate votes against the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (BAIPA), charging:

“Barack Obama wouldn’t even stand up for the rights of infants born alive during an abortion. These infants – often babies with special needs – are simply left to die. “

She also stated that Obama had misrepresented his record on BAIPA.

“In short, Senator Obama is a politician who has long since left behind even the middle ground on the issue of life. He has sided with those who won’t even protect a child born alive,” Palin asserted.

Noting that there are many concerns at issue in the election, Palin commented:

“It’s easy to forget even as deep and abiding a concern as the right to life. And it seems our opponent hopes that you will forget. Like so much else in his agenda, he hopes you won’t notice how radical his ideas and record are until it’s too late.”

She claimed that Obama would support “activist courts” that will “continue to smother the open and democratic debate we need on this issue, at both the state and federal level.”

Earlier that week, in a Thursday interview with radio show host Laura Ingraham, Palin called Obama’s position on the Illinois BAIPA “absolutely atrocious” and “appalling,” Cybercast News Service says.

“I wish I had more time to explain to people what Barack Obama’s position has been on this. Because I think, Laura, it has been missing out there in the discussion, in the debate, about the choices that they have in candidates on November 4th.”

“I think that if more Americans could understand how absolutely extreme that position is, there would be a heck of a lot more outrage than we already see,” she continued.

Palin also attacked Obama’s BAIPA position while speaking at a town hall meeting in Waukesha, Wisconsin on Thursday.

“What I don’t find compassionate is Barack Obama’s vote, as an Illinois senator, when three times he had the chance to vote to be able to provide health care for a child who was born alive as a result of a botched abortion,” she said.

Oct 14, 2008 - 11:18 am 88. Freida:

It is okay for the left to wear a t shirt with Palin is a C-t. that is free speech. But if you say Obama’s real middle name HASSAN then you commited a hate crime you racist bigot. Even a fool will soon reveal themselves.

Oct 14, 2008 - 11:23 am 89. Freida:

The ENQUIRER exclusively reports a “sex pervert” was Sen. Barack Obama’s longtime mentor and “father figure”.

For seven years, the presidential candidate had a “father-son” relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, who has confessed to having sex with children, sadomasochism, bondage and practicing a wide array of deviant sexual activities.

In his 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father, Obama identifies his childhood mentor only as “Frank,” but Obama insiders later confirmed he was referring to Davis, a journalist and poet who was a pal of Obama’s maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham.

Frank Marshall Davis admitted in his private papers that he had secretly authored a hard-core pornographic autobiography called Sex Rebel: Black, published in 1968. The author of the book – a copy of which was been obtained by The ENQUIRER – is listed as “Bob Greene.” Davis later confessed to its authorship after a reader noticed similarities in style and phraseology between that book and Davis’ poetry.

Davis confessed: “I could not truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.”

The appalling catalog of admitted real-life decadence is laced with perverted sexual activity, bisexuality, rape – and the seduction of children.

“Davis’ admission he wrote this disturbing book exposes Obama’s mentor as living a secret double life – and as a sexual pervert,” disclosed a source.

In his shocking tell-all, Davis admits to seducing a thirteen year-old girl, voyeurism, exhibitionism, bisexuality, rape and sadomasochism.

Barack, called “Barry” as a child, was a mere ten year old when he first met the family friend who lead a secret double life.

Obama’s grandfather introduced Barry and Davis because he believed it would help his alienated grandson identify with being of mixed heritage because Barack’s mother, Ann, was a white American while his father, Barack Sr.black Kenyan.

Obama’s parents separated and then divorced when Barack was only 2. Ann remarried and took Barack to live with her and new husband Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia – but Barack was later sent to live with his white grandparents in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Barack describes how Frank Davis had a lasting effect on him and became a father figure over the seven years they knew one another on the tropical island.

In Dreams from My Father, Obama wrote: “He would read us poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an emptied jelly jar.

“As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help in composing dirty limericks.”

Obama described being counseled by Frank often and recalled drinking whiskey with him.

Since Frank Davis has been identified as the author of Sex Rebel: Black, Obama has been extremely secretive about the true nature of his experience with the self-admitted deviant.

Oct 14, 2008 - 1:47 pm 90. proud elitist:

Wow, Marc @ 79, extremely insightful. I’m sure your wife or girlfriend is so goshdarn lucky to have you with such sexism oozing out of your pores.

That’s what happens when the women handle the bills, instead of the men doing that job. Men are supposed to protect their women, including from the stress of paying the danged bills, but women handle the money in 95% of households.

My point is that women are going to decide this election, and I suspect they’ll be making the wrong choice. They’ll be voting for the chicken in every pot promise, and so will screw the country and themselves.

Oh, Teh Stoopid.

Please tell me you haven’t spawned anything. Please.

Oct 14, 2008 - 1:50 pm 91. Fredric Dennis Williams:

If I understand the advice, Ms. Rubin thinks that Mr. Obama needs to do a better job of hiding who he is and disguising what he is about.

Actually, I doubt the average American voter really pays much attention to any of this. He looks calm, cool, and confident. He looks young and athletic. He is tall and handsome. What more do we need to know.

Oh, yes. He knows how to deflect questions brilliantly. That’s the ball game.

As for the specific advice Ms. Rubin offers, it might be more helpful to Mr. McCain. He should point out:

First, Obama is making promises to the middle class that he knows he cannot fulfill. He thinks the government can do what is now failing all over the world — continue to borrow money to spend foolishly. The country needs a return to basic values: work that produces something of value, not flashy tricks with money. Obama doesn’t know anything about such work — he never did any. He’s a politician. I’m not. He will say anything to win, I won’t.

Second, perhaps he will say he will appoint Colin Powell and Robert Rubin — to assure voters that he will not be a radical leftist with a Marxist approach to economics. But Colin Powell was too naive to know when he was being flim-flammed by false intelligence data. He knows more than Obama, but not enough to be Secretary of State in these trying times. Robert Rubin was in place when the errors were made which have led to the current crisis around the world.

Third, he may try to brush off his relationship with Bill Ayers and Acorn, the Obama-funded group which is currently engaged in fraud — registering the names of voters who do not exist so that his vote total may assure his victory. He might brush off the question, or say he hardly knows these people and organizations, but that will be a lie. An American terrorist and his terrorist wife helped Obama get his first political office. A fellow terrorist and member of the Weather Underground started ACORN, which has had a close and lengthy relationship with Obama. He is not be trusted. He lies. He covers up. He can say he didn’t know the views of the minister after twenty years of listening to his sermons; he can disavow the views and finally dump the minister. But after doing so, can he be trusted? If he dumps his minister after 20 years, what will he do to you after your 20 seconds in the voting booth?

Fourth, he can say he understands the middle class, but he is not of the middle class. He is a wealthy Harvard graduate, a career politician, with a wife who makes several times as much money as any middle-class wage earner. These are rich people. Don’t let them kid you.

Finally, he can even suggest he will not work closely with the Democratic-controlled Congress. That might be true, perhaps he will just expect them to rubber stamp his leftist agenda. If you vote for Obama, and you should not, then you must vote for Republicans for every other office. The nation is at risk in the hands of this inexperienced leftist.

Personally, I think Democrats would be wiser to vote for Democrats below and a Republican above. Let the career politicians stay in Congress, and let a career military officer and a state governor run the country. We know we don’t have all the answers. He doesn’t.

Oct 15, 2008 - 6:06 pm 92. hpytuesday:

“Joe the Plumber” has NO worries. With the economy today, no one can afford “Joe’s Rates”. Thus he will not make 250 thousand dollars. Case settled.

Oct 16, 2008 - 5:05 am 93. Marc Malone:

proud elitist – No, I haven’t spawned anything. I’m not a fish. I DO have two daughters. They’re both truly beautiful. They are happy, well-adjusted, well-behaved children. They are 2.5 years apart, and are best friends. People love to have my children come over, because their kids leave off the video games and go play outside, or make believe, or draw, or… you get the picture. They are old-fashioned kids, and everyone always, always compliments me on them.

They are this way, because I’m old-fashioned. I provide discipline, guidance, motivation, and lots and lots of love. We aren’t rich, but my kids are the happiest around.

My ex and I fought all the time. The fights were always about power. She’d swallowed all this nonsense, and insisted on being in control. Of course, our finances were a mess, as a result of her mismanagement. I’ve, on the other hand, have always been very good at managing my money, except when I’ve sometimes been generous to a fault.

When I went blind from my diabetes, my wife kicked me out, as I couldn’t support her anymore. I have a bit of my vision back, and so am minimally functional. Interestingly, after a few years, my ex now has more respect for me now than she ever did when we were married. She has been forced to make her own money, and balance her own budget. Changed her view some.

I live a mile away, to be close to my kids and provide them with the father they need. My ex sees this, and greatly appreciates the support and reliability. It provides her endless confidence and security.

I’ve never pursued another relationship. We were together 17 years, and I married for life. This prevents any worry on her part, as she knows I’m completely devoted to the welfare of my kids above all else. I recently lent her $1,000 (which is a lot for a guy who draws SSDI) to help her get a new car after the old one died. It’s telling that she asked me for the loan.

So, call me sexist if you want, but I always believed in taking care of, and protecting my woman. I never cussed at her. I always held doors and chairs for her. I’ve always been generous in time, money, and spirit. I also did more than my share of chores and raising the kids. A woman needs emotional security, and financial security to be happy. I’ve always tried my best to provide that. What good is a man who won’t do these things for his woman?

Oct 17, 2008 - 3:49 am 94. Edward A.:

If Obama wins, it will be due to the poor campaign than McCain has run. His shifting tactics/policies/goals combined with his ’shoot from the hip’ approach demonstrates he is not the right person to lead America in these times.
His campaign has been savaged from the beginning showing his on-going weakness. McCain is a great American who should have stopped running after 2004. He is just doesn’t have it any longer. It is sad to watch a hero in this position.

Oct 18, 2008 - 6:52 pm 95. Sue:

I think for respect for the President, he as a leader should respect the people that voted for him.He should make sure the people in need of financial assistance, especially the middle class to make mortgage payments and pay their bills, have a means of a way to do so, however I don’t think that socialistic values should acceed capitalism.

Feb 14, 2009 - 12:24 pm

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