Obama vs. Carter: Who’s Worse?
Twenty-eight years following Jimmy's reign of terror, did we let our guard down?
So far, President Obama has been a failure. His stimulus has been a bust, the economy far worse than he projected things would be without that huge expenditure. His constant TV appearances only turn people further against whatever he is pushing. On foreign affairs, he’s seen no positive movement, with Iran getting ever closer to being a nuclear threat and Obama flummoxed on how to stop that. And what seemed to be Obama’s only strength — his worldwide popularity — was proven completely useless in his unsuccessful bid to bring the Olympics to Chicago, the International Olympic Committee apparently getting Obama to drop everything and fly to Copenhagen just so they could laugh at him to his face.
Our economy is in shambles, foreign threats are growing, and America is a laughingstock. So people are asking the question: is Obama as bad as Carter?
That’s not a question to take lightly, as we should not accuse someone of being like Jimmy Carter without good cause. There are millions of Americans who still feel the pain of living in the Carter era, and to invoke Carter’s name frivolously is extremely insensitive to them. Still, we often forget that Carter is just a man (and not misery and human failure given the form of a man, as many have come to believe), and if we are not careful, it is possible to have another just like him — and who knows how long it will take us to recover from that?
I was born in 1979, so I don’t really know the Carter presidency firsthand. I first found out about Carter when as a child I realized there was a four-year gap between the end of the Ford presidency and the beginning of Reagan leading us from the darkness. Curious, I asked my parents, “Who was president from January ‘77 to January ‘81?”
“We don’t speak of that!” I was promptly told. My father promised to beat me mercilessly if I ever brought it up again. This only made me more curious, so I snuck out to the library (this was where information was locally stored in the pre-internet age). Most of the newspaper microfilms and magazines from those years were also gone, but I found a few clippings and some further information in books in the occult section. Soon I pieced together a portrait of the man known as Jimmy Carter.
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1. Francis W. Porretto:It was possible for Americans to believe that Carter, fool though he was, was nevertheless a well-meaning fool. He took responsibility for his own mistakes, and took no action against his critics…at least, none has ever come to light. We can’t say that about Barack Hussein Obama.
Oct 14, 2009 - 1:50 am 2. Gringo:He is worse than Carter.
Oct 14, 2009 - 2:39 am 3. Ozzie:I lived through the Carter years. I remember sitting at my “see through” oval glass kitchen table ala 1960’s, in my space age clear swivel chair like a crew member on the bridge of the enterprise. The color television that got 4 stations downstairs was encased in faux wood, and election results of Ford (the first Dole/McCain guaranteed loser) losing to carter were on the tube. I said “crap! We’re in trouble”. My mother said “you understand that stuff? You understand about the election?” I said “not everything, but I know when people are lying.”
I remember my grandfather getting a little dead inside when Carter allowed the cowards who fled the country instead of serving to return. His son was killed, but he took solace that he did the right thing. Until that day, When Carter spit on his suffering.
Obama IS as bad as Carter though. Keeping the troops in Afganistan but taking their support and firepower away from them is EXACTLY what we did in Vietnam. We let our politicians castrate our military, demean them, then kick them once they ran into trouble.
Oct 14, 2009 - 2:40 am 4. Glass:I think Obama will spell dumb for future generations. It’s a toss up for the dumb crown at present between Carter and Clinton. I find it comical that the left paints every Republican President as stupid and every democratic president as smart. I guess from a practical application that just means stupid is smart and smart is stupid.
Oct 14, 2009 - 3:11 am 5. Rick,Greenville,SC:We can only hope a “valiant rabbit” moment will soon occur for our current beloved and adored leader. . . .
Oct 14, 2009 - 3:30 am 6. LeighB:I can see why people compare the two…both have Nobel prizes, scary spouses, gold-medals in Domestic and International DITHERING, could not pass an Econ 101 course if Larry Summers passed them the answers, have unusually large teeth they think others want to see, spines that are missing at least three vertabrae, are devout in their faiths (Baptist, Marxism and self worship), brothers into altered states, and daddies that loved the ladies. Carter was at a disadvantage, he had a free press in his time. May they both be one termers.
Oct 14, 2009 - 3:42 am 7. Terry:A very tough call. Carter had 4 yrs to screw us over, Obama has made a mess in under a year, who knows what disasters he will bring upon us by the end of his term? Two sides of the same coin, no doubt about that.
Oct 14, 2009 - 4:09 am 8. Steve MacDonald:I was in my late 20s during the Carter administration and remember it well. It was a pretty difficult period with run away inflation or worse, stagflation – disasterous events overseas: Soviet invasion of Afghanistan with following Olympic boycott, Iran hostage etc. while our President was lecturing us on irrational fear. I remember watching his malaise speech, wondering how we ever could have elected an idiot like him – hell, even rabbits showed him no respect.
Oct 14, 2009 - 4:12 am 9. firefirefire:For all the horror of the Carter years, Obama is shaping up to be far, far worse. The fiscal insanity of what our government is doing will take far greater effort and far more time than Reagan took to recover from Carter. The black hole of debt, coupled with skyrocketing entitlement obligations run the risk of bankrupting the country (as absurd as that seems) and at an absolute minimum will create a situation that will take decades to repair.
Add to the mix the crystal clear signals to our allies that we can no longer be depended on + the creation of perfect storm conditions for war in the Middles East that invites another oil shock – and WOW! I am not yet sure whether we are potentially or probably heading into a vastly worse legacy than what was the case under the arrogant, inept peanut farmer.
LB: “May they both be one termers”
Amen!
Oct 14, 2009 - 4:15 am 10. Kerry, IL:Obama is worse and he’s still wet behind the ears. Carter is embarrassing all on his own accord, but Obama takes the humiliation of the USA to all new “awesome” levels. By the time he reaches Jimmah’s age there will be no USA.
He is rapture to anti-American, socialists advocates and despots everywhere, hence the “hopeful” prize to the existing annals of Nobel.
Obama’s presidency will mark the official decline of this once exceptional nation.
Oct 14, 2009 - 4:27 am 11. eon:I graduated from high school in 1976, and voted for the very first time the same year (having just turned 18). I also immediately went into law-enforcement training, as I wanted to be a cop like my father was. While studying criminology and forensic science in college, I was interested, and then frankly alarmed, to see that Carter’s “tough on crime” policies consisted of;
1. Telling his Attorney General, “I want to ban guns, find me a reason to do it.”
2. Simultaneously “de-emphasizing” organized-crime investigations, as he considered them “racially biased”. The FBI was building RICO cases against the Mafia, the Hell’s Angels, the Devil’s Disciples, and a couple of African-American “social groups” later famed as the Bloods and the Crips. Only the motorcycle gangs were “legitimate” targets in Carter’s eyes. (Proving that a stopped clock is right at least twice a day.)
3. De-emphasizing drug enforcement, including ordering his AG to prosecute several cities that mandated mandatory rehab for first-time drug offenders. Several other cities that were considering such a sensible measure dropped the idea like a hot iron right after that.
4. Spent four years covering up for Bert Lance. (No more need be said on that subject.)
5. And of course, officiated at the Mariel boatlift, in which Castro emptied his prisons of hardened criminals, keeping the political dissidents Carter claimed he wanted released (I’ve always had my doubts about how honestly he wanted them able to speak out freely against Fidel). This, equally of course, ended in the explosion of the cocaine traffic from South America that continues today, not to mention endless “Miami Vice” reruns and the remake of “Scarface”.
The damage Carter did to “domestic tranquility” with his “enlightened” version of “tough on crime” policies were nearly as deadly as the damage he did to the world with his “enlightened” foreign policy of “engagement” with people who he simply refused to believe were hell-bent on ruling the world.
And from all indications, President Obama sees absolutely nothing wrong with what Carter did, in either venue.
As P.J. O’Rourke said, apparently there really is no getting through to the “highly insightful”.
(P.S- In 1976, I voted for Gerald Ford.)
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Oct 14, 2009 - 4:36 am 12. anton:Back when he got elected I made these predictions over on a thread in the Belmont Club, to my eye it looks like we are halfway there, and it’s been only nine months. This is going to an ugly three years to go.
Carter 2.0 ( a.k.a. the reign of O )
Oct 14, 2009 - 4:43 am 13. Carla:My predictions for the coming four years;
1. A deepening of the coming recession due to feckless tax increases and a failure of economic policies driven by redistributionist ideas.
2. Rapid expansion of the Federal government in an attempt to “create” jobs.
3. Retreat and retrenchment in all matters of foreign policy, appeasement of aggressive dictators, fawning on the U.N. for permission to act in self defense
4. Fairness Doctrine
5. Disastrous Supreme Court appointments that rule against the Constitution and in favor of “fairness’, “justice” and “economic equality”, a constant invention of new rights or powers not to be found in the Constitution.
6. A relentless attack on the Second Amendment.
7. National Health Care on a par with the U.K. (do please try not to die whilst waiting in the aisle)
8. Collapse of capital markets due to punitive taxation.
9. Reparations
10. Iran gets the bomb.
11. China gets Taiwan.
12. Korea still has nukes.
13. Lebanon abandoned to Hezbollah.
14. Russia continues to creep back into its old empire, holds Europe hostage via control of energy supply lines.
15. Iraq left to twist in the wind.
16. Afghanistan abandoned.
17. Pakistan falls to the Taliban.
18. Chavez visits the White House and gives O pointers on how to run a “fair election”.
19. O visits Iran.
20. Israel gets nuked or nukes Iran (or Syria) preemptively.
21. Terrorists deploy nuclear assets.
22. New energy initiatives fail to come close to promised levels of output, still no drilling off California’s coast and oil prices skyrocket.
23. Kyoto Treaty signed. US economy suffers while trying to meet carbon caps.
24. U.S. military suffers reduced budgets while forced to act as the U.N.s policeman.
25. Mexican invasion continues unabated. Voting rights given to many of them.
26. Social Security still not fixed (or even patched) retirement age raised to 72.
I dunno. What’s worse, tertiary syphillis or Jacob Creutzfeld disease?
Oct 14, 2009 - 4:51 am 14. Tom:I finished high school during the Carter years. I remember well the double-digit inflation, 20%+ interest rates and that constant idiotic grin. Without a doubt, he is the worst President of my lifetime and arguably, with Woodrow Wilson, the worst President of the 20th century. Sorry, Warren Harding did not serve a full term, so he is not as bad.
The first time I saw and heard B. Hussein Obama, I thought that he was the second coming of Jimmah. I wish I wasn’t spot-on with that assessment.
Oct 14, 2009 - 5:01 am 15. mingus:CARLA
I don’t think that ‘tertiary syphilis or Jacob Creutzfeld disease’ is a fair analogy. Perhaps ‘which is worse, gonorrhea or genital herpes?’ would be more appropriate. Neither tertiary syphillis nor Jacob Creutzfeld disease (aka Alzheimers) are curable,. On the other hand neither gonorrhea nor genital herpes are fatal, but both tend to produce excessive irritation, markedly diminish lifes’ pleasures and are often referred to as drips. Just a thought.
Oct 14, 2009 - 5:02 am 16. Byron Dickens:I think Barry has been quite successful so far.
Oct 14, 2009 - 5:18 am 17. justasimplepatriot:I, too, endured the Carter years. Fresh out of the service, I remember watching in disbelief as he pardoned the draft dodgers.
Carter was a well-intentioned incompetent boob. Obama is an ill-intentioned radical – and is associated with far lower regions of the human anatomy.
Oct 14, 2009 - 5:32 am 18. CatoRenasci:If you had to decide now, Carter was worse. At the end of Obama’s term, the answer will be Obama.
It is becoming so clear that Obama and the Democrats are truly embarked on the destruction of the America envisioned by the Founders. The only question is will he do something so outrageous that a sufficiently large segment of the population refuses to go along to the point the government grinds to a complete halt.
Perhaps the good people of the country should consider a true general strike — that traditional weapon of the unions — to let the government know it’s over. A general strike and a 10 million person march on Washington. All nice and peaceful with a simple message: Stop it. Or else.
Oct 14, 2009 - 5:38 am 19. rbell:This is not fair. Obama has only 8 months of chaos behind him while Ninny Cater has had 30 years to prove himself. His body of work is far ahead of Obama. Carter is on a first name basis with every terrorist, dictator, and mass murderer on the planet. These same people hardly know Obama. Hugo Chavez has never said anything negative about Cater.
But it remains to be seen. Will our second communist President prove more destructive than our first? Cater was hampered by Ronald Reagan – who reversed the curse. I just don’t see anyone over turning Obama’s path to universal poverty. He has the entire Congress in his corner, something Jimmy Carter did not. He has my vote.
Oct 14, 2009 - 5:46 am 20. rbell:PS Anton; Right On. Your list is complete – for now. Give him time there are more defeats and disasters to come. He is insatiable.
Oct 14, 2009 - 5:51 am 21. james:Infinitely worse than Carter. Carter was a bitter incompetent; a weakling who knew nothing about human nature and was wholly unfit for any executive position of any type. But he would never have sat at the feet of Jeremiah Wright. He never even heard of Saul Alinsky. He was not interested in “funadamentally transforming the United States of America.” He wasn’t a violent communist radical at war with everything the West has taken two thousand years to achieve. And I don’t believe he would have voted once, much less three times, to legalize infanticide.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:12 am 22. Talnik:No one thought about becoming a counterrevolutionary when Carter was president. We just sat there, gritted our teeth, and waited for the next election. With Obama we may not make it to the next election.
Carter was gone on election day. Obama is America’s terminal cancer.
mingus: Jacob Creutzfeld is more like Kuru and Mad Cow than Alzheimers, and is thought to be often caused by eating brains (OK Carla, which one is the zombie?). My Father-in-Law had Alzheimers and although he was a surgeon and had opportunity, there is no record of him eating brains.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:22 am 23. Tomp:As a side note I remember a guy who years ago walked around town like a robot. He had tertiary syphillis, the final phase before death.
I think with Jacob Creutzfeld you flop around a lot.
Carter still in the lead…Obi closing fast….
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:29 am 24. Talnik:In reviewing the symptoms I described above it is my opinion that Carter is the one with Jacob Creutzfeld.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:30 am 25. Paul -Indiana:“Twenty-eight years following Jimmy’s reign of terror, did we let our guard down?”
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:37 am 26. Cybergeezer:==============================================================
There’s no “WE” in that thought. Many of us saw Obama for the snake oil salesman which he is. Obama was elected by 31% of the electorate. Those who were too lazy to vote [42%] are the ones who saddled us with this loser.
OBAMA’S A WARTIME PRESIDENT!
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:37 am 27. Mike2:Just like Bush; Although, NO ONE WILL ADMIT IT; He has done nothing to stop the wars the United States is involved in that he inherited from the Bush administration.
And Obama, the Nobel Committee, and Obama’s puppet media, will lie about this fact to their graves.
How many War Time Presidents have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?
And he’s still eligible to serve another term.
Now that is truly scary! But true none the less.
Yep, I too scrambled to keep things together during the Carter years. It wasn’t easy either, raising a family during the double digit inflation and economic stagnation of the 70’s and early 80’s. Carter’s main contribution to my life was to get me to vote Republican in 1980.
But I fear that much worse is yet to come. The youth of this country are about to get a real lesson in poverty. I wonder how all the those youthful Obama voters will feel about him in 4 more years?
Also, while talking about the current troubles, let’s not forget about a feckless bunch of Republicans that had 6 years to get it right and instead worried about lining their own pockets. We tend to forget that Nixon begat Carter.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:38 am 28. Bush Rocks!:Not sure which of the two is worse, but I’ll tell you who tops them all: George W. Bush! Seriously, was our man Bush “Da Bomb” as president or what? Never in American history has a president got us into two losing wars, stood by and did nothing while North Korea detonated its first nuke, AND Bush destroyed our financial system. As losers go, Bush can’t be beat. Or can he? I mean he set the bar sooo low, what can Obama possibly do to bottom Bush’s losing record? Like, lose 4 wars? Oversee the re-destruction of our financial system twice-over? Is such a feat possible?
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:49 am 29. Eowyn:Americans have such short memories … *sigh*
I, too, endured the Carter years. To this day, Old Liver Lips (my dad’s name for him) fills me with disgust.
Now, along comes Carter 2.0. I consider each of these men, as was stated above, to be flip sides of the same coin. When will we ever learn?!
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:50 am 30. Cybergeezer:AND YES; MUCH WORSE THAN CARTER; Carter was more overt with his incompetence; Obama’s incompetence knows no limits, and is being shielded by our criminal Congress, and the State Managed Media.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:51 am 31. Bush Fan:The real question is: Has there ever been a president as great as George W. Bush was? I mean seriously, two lost wars and an Economic Depression all under one president? Nobody will ever come close.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:55 am 32. Donna V.:Good one, Carla.
I agree that Obama will make the bumbling Peanut Farmer look like a piker in comparison.
But the sorry reign of Jimmah Peanut resulted in one big positive – the man singlehandedly probably created more conservatives than all the issues of National Reviews ever did. Obama will have a similiar effect.
How many of the dopey young people who voted for him so enthusiastically will have second thoughts when it finally draws on them that they will have to buy health insurance whether they want to or not and will be the ones footing most of the bill for bambi’s programs. This generation likes its shiny new toys, but isn’t yet used to having to pay for them.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:56 am 33. A.W.:Frank,
i always liked the line in the movie “top secret!” when the girl revealed that her father was an american who escaped to east germany during the carter years. heh.
That is an underappreciated classic from the guys who made airplane.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:58 am 34. goy:Unfortunately, BHO is getting a lot of help destroying the Republic, whose downfall – at least since 1933 – was always going to be signaled by this.
Now that it has happened – and it’s happened as a direct result of the same socially suicidal, leftist policies that brought on the Great Depression – we have the data we need. Yes, we do. And it ain’t funny.
Carter may have been the bigger idiot, but these idiots have Cabinets and czars and pet Congresses, and BHO’s have been able to do what no previous federal clown posse has ever achieved: they’ve managed to destroy the value of our currency.
Okay, maybe it’s funny, but it’s like Black Comedy funny.
Oct 14, 2009 - 6:59 am 35. Cybergeezer:The dumming down of our nation is just about complete.
Oct 14, 2009 - 7:04 am 36. ahem:If you don’t believe me, read the book by Charlotte Iserbyt, Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the first Reagan Administration.
Obama wins by several lengths.
Oct 14, 2009 - 7:27 am 37. new utopian:“We have elected the enemy.” Jim Quinn (Quinn and Rose)
Oct 14, 2009 - 7:41 am 38. biblio44:“No one is quite sure where he came from — some say the depths of hell, and others a peanut farm in Georgia. ”
Ah, the light touch of right-wing humor. If only Stewart and Colbert had writers like Frankie.
Oct 14, 2009 - 7:43 am 39. steve:Obama is by far the worst president in the history of the United States.
He is not only an incompetent racist Marxist he is also the greatest enemy that this country has ever faced. He may succeed in his attempt to destroy the United States.
He is an enemy that is set to destroy our constitution. The same constitution he has sworn to defend he has publically deemed to be “fundamentally flawed”.
He has taken over parts or all of our auto industry, banks, insurancies companies with our healthcare next on his hit list. He and his henchmen are systematically destroying our country piece by piece.
Carter the runner up doesn’t even come close to Obama. Carter’s people although Leftist weren’t the truly evil people that Obama has surrounding him not only now in his administration but also during his whole life. He has appointed a viritable rogues gallery of communists, black supremacists, radical sexual perverts and anti-Christians of every stripe.
Unfortunately, the worst is yet to come.
Oct 14, 2009 - 7:47 am 40. anton:Perhaps the most telling thing is the difference bewteen their smile; Carter has the grin of a fool or bufoon, Obama has the shark-like grin that says, “HA! fooled you all!”.
We should file a class-action suit against Obama and the DNC for false advertising; the product is certainly not performing as promised.
Oct 14, 2009 - 8:27 am 41. jic:Right now, Carter is still a worse president than Obama. But Obama will almost certainly match him, and has the potential to beat him by a large margin.
You know, I always thought that all the ‘Bush is the worst president in history’ stuff coming from the left was just noise. But two things are now clear:
1) they truly believed it,
and
2) they considered it a record that they had to break.
Oct 14, 2009 - 8:28 am 42. genghis:Apples and oranges. Jimmeh (the Smiling Eunuch) was (and is) a limp, self-satisfied, moralistic incompetent who overly valued his own limited opinion of the nation and the world. A failure as a husbanad, a failure as a peanut farmer, a failure as Governor of Georgia, and a failure as President. As an ex-president he is just an embarassment.
On the other hand, Barry is a self-absorbed, narcissistic, liberal wet dream with visions of grandeur, a winning smile, and an impressive history of non-achievement. He has deftly avoided personal failure by cleverly avoiding responsibility for anything.
Jimmeh tried his utmost to convince the public that America’s decline was inevitable, Communism wasn’t so bad after all, and, anyhow, we would just have to live with it and a declining standard of living.
Barry, in contrast, is activley attempting to impoverish the nation, masterminding an enormous transfer of wealth from the doers and achievers to the slothful and undeserving, while suggesting that Islamo-fascism is a myth, and that we can ignore it and concentrate on the really important tasks of saving the world from the depridations of carbon-based energy, poor eating habits, and American arrogance.
Jimmeh was content with muddling along, grinning and preaching. We were able to outlast his dithering. Barry, on the other hand, is aggressively attempting to remake America into his own distorted paradigm of how the world should be. He is a different breed from Jimmeh, and infinitely more dangerous.
Oct 14, 2009 - 8:51 am 43. Sebastian Shaw:Most of the young people who voted for Senator Obama never lived during the awful Carter years given most were born in Reagan or Bush I administrations. Although his was just 4 years, Carter made everything worse with his stupid–yes stupid–policies. President Obama is Jimmy Carter’s second term 30 years later. These young people will learn first had what the Carter years was like with President Obama as he attempts to destroy America & private business.
Oct 14, 2009 - 9:06 am 44. misanthropicus:Fresh Cold Nuclear showers from the news (cold even for Norwegians, if one can imagine that) -
* Russia just came with a categorical NYET on sanctions on Iran – situation that shows that the foresight the Obamistas claimed they had in this matter had less than a robin’s dropping weight -
* In addition to this, Russia has clearly announced that it reserves the right for pre-emptive nuclear stikes – situation which confirms that the Peace Nobel Prize Committtee in their rewarding Obama for some nuclear disarmament endeavors (???!!!) have indeed reached a level of imbecility unheard of -
Birds of the feather cause atomic wars together – El Baradi has warmly congratulated Obama for this Nobel -
Oct 14, 2009 - 9:15 am 45. Arroyo:#43 – Sebastian — You nailed it.
Oct 14, 2009 - 9:19 am 46. Phoenix48:19. rbell: “He has the entire Congress in his corner, something Jimmy Carter did not.”
Not so. I was in High School – followed by college @ Kent State – a very pro-Carter venue by ‘78-’79 when I first showed up. Carter inherited the heavily liberal congress following Nixons resignation in ‘74 – the same one that Ford set a record vetoing bill after bill.
Yet Carter had even more trouble getting along with his own liberal party as he did the decimated Republicans. The recent HBO documentary on Ted Kennedy highlighted how Carter was hated by Tip O’Neill & Kennedy alike – ensuring that his domestic agenda wound up a disaster.
The deregulation that was so successful under Reagan was actually started (airlines/public utilities) under Carter – but the guy was totally schzio – his idea of deregulation was to hire more government workers – and the same was true with banking – his vision for lending was to ‘allocate’ via the Small Biz adminsitration.
Carter was a committed corpratist/statist – his modle for the American Economy was a hybrid of Britan & India in the 60’s & 70’s – but he was ‘gonna make it work here.’ Like almost all Democrats of his era he refused to even entertain the notion that LBJ’s great society was the failure that was killing the country.
Hense when Reagan came in – the drastic tax cuts (@ 90-70% at the top end) coupled with the ’starve the beast’ funding cuts radically transformed the country. Besides that by focusing on rebuilding the military – and reviving our industrial output – the difference between 1979 – Carters last year – and 1984 – the beginning of Reagans 2nd term – is hard to describe for those who didn’t experience it.
After all – until sept 2008 we enjoyed the longest prolonged growth in american history – despite even George W’s flaws and all.
I don’t think this 1st year of Obama comes even close to the misery index of 20% inflation and Carters constant policy mistakes. Nor is Obama’s appology tour – or even the canceling of the missile shield in Europe – remotely on par with what Carter wrought – from his failure to stand up to the Soviets in Afganistan right down to the drawn out humiliation of the hostage crises.
But. It is only year ‘zero’ if you will. What is more scary about the O is that he is much more polished than the Jhemmia. And that right now he has congress. There is no precedent to this current radical in office. Nor the left wing that Pelosi & Reid herd over. The left has never been so well armed and in charge as they are now. Ever.
Carter saw himself as the ultimate outsider who was going to rescue the country from washington insiders. Obama is the ultimate progressive insider who intends to transform the country into a socialist state. Carter rode into office after Nixons disgrace. Obama arrived as a ‘transformational’ other worldly be-the-truth fixer.
While it’s bad now – it could very well get into even worse than Carter territory. And that is down right terrifying.
Oct 14, 2009 - 9:24 am 47. Peter the Bubblehead:31. Bush Fan wrote:
Has there ever been a president as great as George W. Bush was? I mean seriously, two lost wars and an Economic Depression all under one president?
Peter writes: Please explain which wars we lost under Bush? I must have missed the newspaper report on that day.
(I know the libtards were cheering for us to lose Iraq for six years, but since that war is effectively over with us on the winning side, I’m still not sure what wars you refer to? And if we lose Afghanistan, blame for that falls squarely on the shoulders of the libtard’s messiah, The Won!)
Also, what was an enconomic downturn under Bush has been turned into complete economic failure under The One and the Dumbocrat Congress and their ‘Porkulus’ bill, so I don’t know what the heck you think you’re crowing about?
Oct 14, 2009 - 9:39 am 48. Peter the Bubblehead:35. Cybergeezer wrote:
The dumming down of our nation is just about complete.
If you don’t believe me, read the book by Charlotte Iserbyt, Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the first Reagan Administration.
Peter asks: Is it a picture book? Because otherwise any graduates of liberal-agenda public school systems will probably not be able to read and/or understand it.
Oct 14, 2009 - 9:42 am 49. Anonymous:Carter personally managed the problems he helped create: the Ayatollah, the hostages, economic malaise, Soviet aggression. All it took to destroy his legacy of failure was somebody who did not do stupid things.
Obama uses the full weight and majesty of the federal government to build, through legislation, problems that will remain unsolved until the edifice of socialism he is erecting can be destroyed, down to the foundations of Acorn and the naming of the nameless bureaucrats who want to rule your life. This will be the work of a generation, after he is gone, and it will have multiple opportunities for failure of reform, as the leviathan he has created is a self-replicating, omnivorous, unsatisfied beast.
Obama is worse than Carter because what Obama is doing must not just be repudiated, but undone.
Oct 14, 2009 - 10:14 am 50. Phil Byler:Obama is worse than Carter; and that is frightening. The world was descending into a bad place at the end of Carter’s Presidency. Where the world will be in 2012 will be worse.
Oct 14, 2009 - 11:41 am 51. rbell:46. Phoenix48. Your points are well taken but remember Tip and The Swimmer never liked anyone outside of their inner drunk tank. You may recall Carter was a T-Toddler, a born again Christian who wrote an article for Playboy magazine. That should tell you something about his state of mind. He only lusted after waitresses, but he never pawed them like Kennedy.
PS I was in college and shook Carters hand when he came through for a speech. We filmed his talk in the Business School and later analyzed his mannerisms and choice of words. My class, made up of mostly student liberals, declared that he was a phony, a programmed liar. We had him on tape and analyzed not only what he said but how he said it. The course called Administrative Studies. We don’t need a team of college students to analyze Obama.
Oct 14, 2009 - 12:38 pm 52. X:Yes, we need another valiant bunny to finish him… the fly couldn’t do it
Oct 14, 2009 - 1:06 pm 53. Carlos Ramirez:I think the difference is malice aforethought.
Oct 14, 2009 - 1:28 pm 54. Sebastian Shaw:Carter was ignorant of some ways to govern but at least had some experience. Our Current Pres.
Knows where he is going and determined to get there. The Anti Free Enterprize and Capitalism can be accomplished and reduce us to a third world country.
More shades of Jimmy Carter with Russia: “We reserve the right to nuke you preemptively” via Hot Air:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/14/russian-security-advisor-we-reserve-the-right-to-nuke-you-preemptively/
Being the dirty carpet just gives you the boot Barry & no respect. How’s that peace prize going?
Oct 14, 2009 - 3:58 pm 55. Dave !!:I commend the author for actually taking the time to read up on the Carter years. Unfortunately, the VAST majority of his generation and younger have NO IDEA who or what Carter was all about…and they certainly don’t get taught the REALITY in history classes, if they ever even touch on those “uneventful” late ‘70 years!
So we have a HUGE voting block today, ignorant as tree stumps and totally enamored with the Chosen One’s ability to read from a teleprompter…barely now experiencing what we see as CARTER REDEUX coming down the pike.
It’s sad, frightening, disgusting, and depressing as hell.
I guess each generation must learn its own lessons the hard way…
Oct 14, 2009 - 5:07 pm 56. Woodrow:But Carter said that Bush was the worst president ever. I’m thinking the protective suit they gave him at Three Mile Island was leaky at the top part, but maybe that’s just me.
Carter was the best president Panama ever had. Even though Obama is working hard to be Honduras’ best president ever, I still think Panama will trump Honduras.
Oct 14, 2009 - 9:29 pm 57. Lili von Shtupp:I was a mere tiny tot when Carter got in (9 years old, couldn’t vote…my hands are clean).
I remember the joy of sitting in the back of my old man’s station wagon with my little brother, waiting in a gas line for hours. I’m old enough to remember “Nightline” and their daily “America Held Hostage” reports. Tell kids nowadays that you could get 15% on a CD, and it STILL didn’t keep up with inflation, and they think you’re on crack. Hell, I’m old enough to remember that this country was so beaten down by the end of it all that we got stupidly happy after winning a hockey game in the Olympics over the Soviet Union…that’s how defeated we were.
Never thought I’d look back and think “good times, good times!!” At least back then people finally pulled their heads outta their butts and didn’t reward him with a second term. (Of course, that was back in the days when kids would sing “That’s what Campbell Soups are, mmm, mmm, good!” not “Mmmm, mmm, mmm! Barack Hussein Obama!”) Now, after all the dumbing down of public schools, I’m not sure that this generation is gonna get a clue in time.
Geez, I sound like an olde phart…..
Oct 16, 2009 - 1:49 am 58. Sebastian Shaw:The MSM covered for President Carter as they do for President Obama; the media’s bias is more pronounced & not hidden anyore. The MSM still made excuses for Carter’s incompetence. You know when a politician is doing something right when the MSM tries to destroy them; they tried to destroy Reagan, but he talked directly to the people. I see similar attributes with Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Michelle Bauchman (sp?), etc al.
Oct 16, 2009 - 6:54 am 59. Kendig:I think it’s a little early to start comparing Obama to Carter. Carter took 4 years to bring 12 years of Republican presidential leadership and eventually Republican control of the legislature. Obama off to a great start, No conservative trust him, he’s losing independent voters and the left is trying to move him farther left. But, the Republican need to step up to the plate and offer a viable alternative to Obama and the Democrats. The Republicans need a leader who can articulate what is great about the Republicans. Then, if in 2010, the Democrats are out on the street and Obama’s ratings are lower than a supermodels dress size, we can state that Obama is the worst president in the 21st century.
From “The One” to “The No One”
Oct 16, 2009 - 7:45 am 60. English_Wolf:Funny…
Obama inherits a mess from a previous administration that IS responsible for everything that is going on now, yet he is blamed for it.
I’ll like to see all the armchairs critics here take the job, deal with the war in Iraq, the NATO mess in Afghanistan (yes, it is not a US war per say, same as Korea was – and still is a war by the way, as no peace treaty has been signed -).
I would like to see the same armchairs critics move off their butts and set the economy right. Reagan generated the largest federal deficit (at the time). Clinton reduced some of it and the previous administration ran up the federal bill up the kazoo.
I really would enjoy seeing the armchairs critics justify the war in Iraq.
Of course I would also have fits of laughter seeing the armchair critics deal with international politics after the constant dismantling of the US influence done by the same previous administration.
The previous administration had 8 years to destroy everything they could. They nearly achieved it and you want the next guy to come in and by his mere presence make the sky blue, the flower blossoms while butterflies and bees flutter from one to the other… ???
Have you even paid attention to the diminishing individual rights in the US? Do you pay attention to the non sense all over public places? Let’s pat PA (yes let’s) to see if she does not pack a large gun inside those silicon boobs!!! How about the media that makes the news vs. reporting it?
The US is the victim of the past president, not of this one. He has not been in ‘power’ for a year yet.
Obama s the recipient of the ‘Nobel peace price’? It would be a joke if this was not underlining the relief and hope this man has created, just by being elected. It is the true reflection of what the world at large saw: a war mongering nation headed by an out of control ‘yet to be punished criminal’. The Nobel Prize in effect went to all that voted for Obama and stopped the neocon agenda.
IMO the hope generated is an illusion as to fix what has been broken is not going to be easy and will take a long time to first repair then heal. Obama will not be able to achieve all in 4 years or even in 8 years if reelected. The damage is long lasting and may take decades before anything is ‘back to normal’ (as if normal was good).
I knew we were in trouble when Ashcroft covered the stone tit of the justice… First sign of… religious extremism!!! Then we had the infamous ‘I prayed before giving the order to attack Iraq’ therefore this right is god sanctioned and righteous.
Yeah, I am proud to be a US enlightened Christian with leaders like that. Yes sir, I am! (Morons!)
Oct 16, 2009 - 9:42 am 61. Faramir:It’s obvious that if you were (or are) against Carter you must be a Racist!
Oct 16, 2009 - 1:47 pm 62. Sebastian Shaw:Kendig, House Republicans offered 23 different proposals to ObamaCare, but they are ignored by the Socialists & the MSM. The same is true for the Senate.
Oct 16, 2009 - 4:36 pm 63. Sebastian Shaw:English Wolf, you’ve got backwards. If you were paying attention, Obama retains all of Bush’s policies on Iraq & Afghanistan. However, domestically, Obama has a War Against Capitalism by growing government as a result of Porkulus, his budget, nationalizing 2 American car companies (which are in the red), nationalizing banks, etc al. Obama is making it worse–just like Carter before him.
President Obama is losing his momentum so quickly because he is an empty suit; he’s nothing without a rigged audience, planted questions, & his precious teleprompter. Without these things, Obama’s so-called eloquence vanishes under the sweat of the spotlight.
President Obama is worse than Carter given Obama is Carter on steroids. A racist demagogue/ideologue will not work with the Republicans in any capacity. To him, they are the enemy–not Bin Laden or Fidel Castro. This is the Left’s beating black heart.
Oct 16, 2009 - 4:45 pm 64. English_Wolf:Sebastian
Yeah,
(HE being Obama*; God according to your demands)
HE CREATED the (Iraq)war by lying…
HE CREATED the terrorists groups (can’t blame the previous *** for that)
HE CREATED the (Afghanistan) war
HE CREATED the perception that the US is a war mongering nation
HE CREATED the conditions for the economy to implode
HE CREATED the political polarised gridlock in the US
HE CREATED everything!
He is Z God!
Only one trouble: This god is human and has not created anything.
- If you are so good, pray tell how one gets out of a war w/o creating the conditions for a vacuum and anarchy? (Iraq)
- Since you claim to know, pray tell (again) how to draw down from a wrong headed war in Afghanistan when it is a NATO/UN affair, even if ‘led by the US’?
- You are so good, I bet you also know how to fix the economy, international diplomacy, the continuous Zionist expansion (cause of many ills in the area as well as the extremist excuse for jihad), the local ethnic wars in Africa (and elsewhere) but most importantly…
PRAY TELL US (yet again) how will you fix human nature that is really the cause of everything?
Backward? No, I am a realist. One cannot stop of a war just like that. Walking out in the current Afghan situation will only create perfect conditions for more killing and would be a great disservice to the troops on the ground – for all countries involved. Also, since we did take out a regime, we (as NATO/UN) have a responsibility to rebuild the country, we (still as NATO/UN) could have skirted that if we had only gone straight against the terrorists and destroyed ONLY what stood between us (as NATO/UN *again*) and the target.
To sell the Afghanistan war the argumentation was tainted by a moral obligation to ‘free the Afghanistan population from a religious extremist government’, making it a crusade against evil extremist Muslims**. Once again we (as NATO/UN *remember?*) ran interference in another country as we are ‘always right’ and ‘God is with us’. Funny, the other side claims the same thing. We painted Taliban as evil doers and went after them first, letting the only legitimate target get away under spurious reasons. Certainly Obama’s doing, according to your reasoning.
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Like many, I think this war was also wrong but for other reasons than Iraq. NATO and allies should never had gone to war with the Taliban and should have pursed the terrorists w/o regard for borders, defeating/killing whomever would have tried to interfere and, once the job done, walk out. Instead we took out Taliban as a ‘moral/ethical duty’ and entered a war that looks more and more like a war in Vietnam. The jungle is now the mountain; the ideology is religious instead of East/West. Like in Vietnam, a puppet gvt is in position (that was also true in Korea, at first). The major difference is that the Afghanistan war is a NATO war, sanctioned by the UN, just like Korea is (remember no peace treaty has been sign, this only a long lasting cease fire – 2d reminder).
Now the conflict has spilled over to Pakistan which opens another can of worm as Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Pakistan is responsible for that as they did encourage and protected Taliban within their borders. Trouble is, do you have any idea what will happen if an extremist government gets its hands on nuclear weapons? (I hope I am wrong on that one!) You seem to know everything so, pray tell (yeah I did not forget) answer that one. Do you really think that India will stay idle if these weapons get into the wrong hands? (Remember that Pakistan and Bangladesh were originally part of India – India has its own Muslim population and gained their independence after a bloody internal war)
Since you know everything, I am certain that you know of the ‘domino effect’, right? Well, we (as NATO/UN) made the major error of toppling the first one. Now we have to try to prevent the rest to come down, on us.
It definitively is the time for us to just walk out and watch the shit hit the fan.
Thank HE that you are not HE !!!!
:p
*If I recall the US had ’soldiers for god camps’ were kids were made to welcome the **** who was *president* at the time, as if that **** was a prophet (if not the reincarnation of christ). I bet that they bring out HIS (Obama’s if I have lost you) effigy and use it for target practice…
Oct 17, 2009 - 7:54 am 65. John:** There is a distinct difference between extremists (Muslims/Chistian/Jew or anything else for that matter) and terrorism.
I lived through Carter and the gas lines every other day to get my fillup so I would have enough gas to go to work and still have enough gas left so I could line up again and not run out on line.
Oct 29, 2009 - 12:54 amThe jerk was the worst, however Mr. O will be far worse for the country than Carter and the damage will take much longer to repair.