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1. T-Bird:

$300 million in untraceable bills for Obama- and other Democrats are also turning off the AVS. How can you possibly compare this to Watergate?

Oct 24, 2008 - 10:46 am 2. Truth First:

Very soon Barack Obama will be your new President. This is a reality you cannot alter or escape from. It is fact. It is history. It is justice for the world.

Many of you have seen the light and have accepted the truth. And we thank you for your support and aid in electing Barack Obama.

To those who have rejected the truth you have no reason to fear Barack Obama. He is wise and just and he will follow the principals followed by his African forefathers. Barack Obama is the son of Kings and Queens who started human civilization thousands of years ago. Barack Obama remembers his heritage and his obligations to the Truth, Justice and the Future.

Barack Obama understands what is wrong and what needs to be done. Barack Obama has intelligence and vision that has lasted for over a millennium. Barack Obama was born with the appropriate ways of thinking, speaking, and acting and this will inspire you to be liberated for now there is no shackle which can keep you enslaved.

An African Proverb tell us: “Then command the servant, thusly: Make an Elder’s staff causing my son to stand in my place I will instruct him through the speech of the listeners and the counsels of the first of the ancients who listened to the divinities. In so doing troubles will be removed from the people.”

Barck Obama is here now to listen, to instruct and will lead you to your new life.

America will have a new start. A change to right itself. A change to correct its wrongs and address its sins. If you support change that will bring forth social and economic justice, you will stand with Barack Obama. Those who have been denied justice in America will get justice. Those will have been denied opportunity will be given opportunity. Those will falsely imprisoned will be freed. Those who are guilty will be punished. America’s salvation is at hand.

Those who have profited in America will play a role helping others. Justice requires equality and fairness and those who have the means will now be fair and will contribute to equality.

Stand with Barack Obama and you will be honored you for your work, sacrifice, dedication and devotion on behalf of all oppressed peoples.

Stand with Barack Obama and you will be honored and celebrated and remembered in song and praise and by your children.

http://truthfirstnow.blogspot.com

Oct 24, 2008 - 10:49 am 3. Jarhead:

Great. Four years of grand juries, special investigators, political trials, and personal smears on investigators and judges.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:08 am 4. LaLa:

Hey Truth First! Can you translate “koolaid” in your African language?
I am so thankful that you are located outside of America. You have some gall predicting who will be our next President. As I read your words they are very poetic and eloquent much like the empty words of Obama’s teleprompter. Your words are very creepy to most of America. So have you contributed to Obama’s war-chest? I find it interesting that you choose to comment on an article outlining the fraud that Obama is committing. Are you one of Obama’s overseas contributors? It must really sting that you will never be truly free as we Americans are. That means I have the right not to stand with Barack Obama and my children will sing my praises for doing so. As for your map of the USA on your site, CORRECTION! The colors of the USA are Red, White and Blue! Not the colors of the African flag you plastered on our country map.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:17 am 5. asdf:

Truth First?
Yea right. World justice? I think not. Will go after the death cult that is islam? I think not. Obama is the anti christ not the savior.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:22 am 6. suztours:

Hey Truth First – if your people were the first civilization on earth and the “kings & queens”, what happened? Why is Africa is such a bad way now? Why don’t you wave your magic wand and fix it or are you waiting for your king Obama to do it for you? Better not hold your breath…

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:23 am 7. heather:

In fact, I thought “truth first” was a joke. But darn, if it isn’t.

Amazing. If this is Obama’s core support, and if he is actually elected, then the world is in for a very rough ride.

If he loses the election, I would expect really horrific tantrums from such as ‘truth first.’

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:28 am 8. Joanna:

I find it interesting that Obama will “lead [me] to [my] new life.” I just started my (adult) life. I’m doing fine on my own, thank you. And if I need help, I certainly won’t look to Washington for guidance.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:29 am 9. Self-hating boomer:

I think TF was being sarcastic, but it’s an ominous sign of our times that we can read that, and not be completely sure.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:31 am 10. cfbleachers:

Voter registration fraud. Campaign finance fraud. Calls to action to snuff out dissent on Milt Rosenberg’s radio show. Requests to “get in their face” if they don’t want to vote the right way. Consiglieri going to court to block dissenting viewpoints. Universities and libraries secreting documents and hiding public records.

I can’t decide whether Vito or Michael is in charge…with so many journalists and tv broadcasters in their pocket, like so many nickels and dimes.

How would these scenes play out?

“There’s more money potential in overseas campaign finance fraud than anything else we’re looking at. Now, if we don’t get into it somebody else will. Maybe one of the other candidates in the primaries, maybe all of them and with the money they earn they’ll be able to buy more media distortion and political cover. Then they come after us. Right now we have the unions and we have the Marxists and those are the best things to have. But campaign financing fraud is a thing on the future.”

“Times have changed. It’s not like the old days, now we can do anything we want. We must draw the water from the well. Certainly the media can present a bill for such services; after all… we are not all Communists.”

Intimidation, money laundering, fraud, suppression of evidence. If we had an independent press, one might hope that the perpetrators would get their just desserts. Not likely. Leave the gun, forget the cannoli.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:32 am 11. Sandy Salt:

Truth,
You seriously need to step back from the kool aid. Obama is just a man and nothing more. He is a politician that will promise you the moon and then only deliver heartache and pain. I feel sorry for you because when the fantasy turns to reality it isn’t pretty.

Ever wonder why strip clubs are so dark? The same goes here. Obama is the pretty naked lady dancing to the music with the lights down low, so you think that he is everything you ever wanted. But when the lights come on and you find out that you are broke and she is not delievery on going home with you. You end up angry and frustrated.

Take it from me stay out of the Obama strip club and face reality. Pelosi and Reid will run this country into the ground regardless of who is President. Obama will just speed the process.

Then again enjoy your fantasy and shut the h$#% up.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:40 am 12. eigafan:

Donate money to Obama/Biden 2008 – use stolen credit cards and foreign credit cards. Criminals and foreigners can contribute as much money as they want via our fraud-friendly website (we don’t verify addresses or CVCs). Yes we can buy the 2008 US presidency!!!

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:52 am 13. jb:

Please tell me Truth First is being sarcastic. Man, you cannot be believing what you just wrote. You need some professional help, really. I understand the average Obama supporter but you go way beyond that. Listen to me “OBAMA IS JUST A MAN” ok. Now go take your medication and talk to somebody.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:53 am 14. Boris:

Evidence? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:54 am 15. jb:

Truth First, listen to #11 Sandy Salt, She knows what she’s talking about. Step away from the ledge my friend.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:56 am 16. Someone75:

Naturally, the author can’t prove any of his claims. Just like they can’t find a strong, sinister connection between Obama and Bill Ayers. If these secrets are out there and McCain’s people can’t find them, then McCain’s people are grossly incompetent. Since they’re probably not, there probably aren’t any dark secrets to be found.

Since when did PJMedia become a breeding ground for hearsay, rumors, and unrestricted opinion? I remember when there used to be actual journalistic articles – reporting on things that actually happened, not making things up and hoping they are convincing to the dupes that will probably vote McCain anyway.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:59 am 17. Hillary’s lawyers note systemic corruption and voter fraud in Nevada:

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Oct 24, 2008 - 12:01 pm 18. Jarhead:

Real or fake, TruthFirstNow is hilarious!

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:06 pm 19. Sandy Salt:

jb,

I am actually a male sailor, so I know my strip clubs well. Thanks for the vote of confidence. SS

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:11 pm 20. 1VoiceInAVacuum:

If I had any doubt about what the term “obamabot” meant, the person posting as “Truth First” cleared it up for me.
Just vote for the magical Obama and all your wildest dreams will come true.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:12 pm 21. R Clark:

I had a $2300.00 charge appear on my credit card statement last month from …….. The Obama campaign. I am a staunch Conservative and nearly choked on my own tongue when I saw my statement. After two phone calls, it was removed by a very apologetic campaign. What a damn joke. Obama is a fraud, a crook, a liar and will do nothing but destroy our great nation.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:13 pm 22. USAF Vet:

Obama is a socialist, by any measure. he has NEVER held a real job that was not at the public teat. He has NO “real world” or military experience. You can vote for anyone and in Obama’s case be in the good company of ACORN, Gay Marriage, pro-Abortion, anti-military, appeasing, pacifist, pro-affirmative action, and many other so-called Americans.
By the way, here is something else to consider…a “conservative” African American like Ward Connerly or Justice Thomas (and many more) are considered “sellouts” by many blacks. So, how do we label all those smilin’ white faces at the Obama rallies? OOps! I forgot, that would be rascist…

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:13 pm 23. Grab The Phone » Blog Archive » Pajamas Media » Obama’s Fundraising Fraud:

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Oct 24, 2008 - 12:14 pm 24. CR:

Want proof?

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_foreign_donors/2008/10/23/143619.html

Read it, jerks.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:17 pm 25. Obama’s Fundraising Fraud | PoliticsMuch.com:

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Oct 24, 2008 - 12:18 pm 26. Doc99:

Is TruthFirst Swahili for KoolAid?

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:19 pm 27. Chris:

The various commentators on Obama’s lax credit card security are all missing the forest through the trees. The card security is lax for a reason. In order to accept FOREIGN credit cards, name check must be disabled on the merchant side of the transaction. Obama’s donation system will accept credit cards from foreign banks. That’s the news story no one is talking about.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:28 pm 28. Jvette:

TruthFirst, look away from the light. It is not the light of a savior, but of a death train. Get off the tracks before it is too late!

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:29 pm 29. Historical update:

Mr. Douglas:

Just a slight correction. CREEP operated for the 1972 election not 1974.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:30 pm 30. Believer:

Truth First is telling us – just as Obama did in his conversation with Joe the Plumber – what BO intends to do.

“Those who have profited…will contribute to equality.”

There it is again, folks. No doubt about it.

Who among us wants to be as mind-numbed as he is? That’s not the voice of an American. That’s someone devoid of independent thought.

We’re better than that. And we’d better make sure he and his Dear Leader get the message on November 4.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:32 pm 31. jb:

Sandy Salt, I’m actually Joe Biden putting my foot in my mouth again. I’d post more but I’m still laughing.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:32 pm 32. Jim:

The “ip_addr” seems fishy, too.

http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewreply/413389/

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:34 pm 33. Mister Snitch!:

Hallelujah! He’s got it! I do believe he’s got it! Thank you, Mr. Douglas, for finally pointing out a story that nobody else seems to understand. It’s only the biggest campaign financing fraud (and possible security breach) in US history, is all. Other than that, there’s no story here.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:37 pm 34. Rachel:

Ever wonder why strip clubs are so dark?
cool scenario. May I use it?

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:37 pm 35. jb:

Sandy Salt, Just went to your website, very well done. I would definitely recommend it.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:37 pm 36. susan:

boris, the evidence is what post n 21 said, moron.

Boris and someone75 would deny even the holocaust to push bamba

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:39 pm 37. deek:

DEAREST LEADER WILL NOT BE QUESTIONED!

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:40 pm 38. NC Mountain Girl:

A lot of bloggers have the screen caps from Obama’s website and their credit card statements to prove that the security has been disabled, including credit cards that have foreign billing addresses.

Res ipsa loquitur. This cannot be done by accident. It takes deliberate action to disable these systems. Anyone who has ever made a typo when ordering online knows how incredibly unusual it is for a vendor to alter the security settings. As a lawyer and a CPA I can think of no reason to go throught the steps needed tp disable the security settings except the obvious one: the site intends to accept contributions from donors not legally qualified to make them.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:49 pm 39. Believer:

R Clark #21 –

I read that BO is making money on this scam — for the month or so that his campaign has banked this money, he’s making interest on it. So, with hundreds of millions of dollars earning interest before they return it, they’re doing pretty well.

I think I read it at Ace of Spades. And he or someone suggested, should BO win, we ought to have impeachment papers ready. The guy’s a crook.

It’s beyond fathomable that our country might become the swampland of fraud and corruption that so appeals to him, but it looks like a good number of our fellow citizens are willing to let him.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:50 pm 40. Self-hating boomer:

Boris, try this:

Go to the 0bama website
Make a contribution for $15 (which I believe is the minimum that they will accept).

Type in:

Boris Badenov
999 Icicle rd.
Frostbite Falls, MN, 12345

Use any credit card, as long as it’s not in the name of Boris Badenov. Type in the card number and the expiration date. It won’t ask for a security code.

You, sir chump, will find your card charged with $15, because the 0bama site will NOT check the name, address, OR the security code.

Have Natasha do it to. It’s for The One&#153, after all.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:51 pm 41. Self-hating boomer:

And btw, the credit card servers default to checking name and address. You have to specifically defeat that, and then the card companies will charge a premium for defeating the name and address check.

And no, neither the McCain nor the Hillary Clinton sites worked that way. Only The One™.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:54 pm 42. SamIam:

Impeach hearings should begin Inauguration Day if Obama ‘wins’.

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:56 pm 43. Believer:

Is this scam also further hurting our banks? Or at least the ones that BO works with. Because they’ve paid out interest on money they thought they’d have for awhile, and instead it’s being returned – it was never real…?…

Oct 24, 2008 - 12:56 pm 44. kevin c:

excellent tape out IN THE BLOGOSPHERE OF STANLEY GREENWALD,AN FBI INFORMANT ON THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND IN THE LATE 70S. INCLUDED IN THIS TAPE IS GREENWALDS TESTIMONY BEFORE CONGRESS ON SCUMMY WILLIAM AYERS. WHEN ASKED BY GREENWALD ABOUT AMERICANS WHO WOULD NOT ACCEPT “RE-EDUCATION”, AYERS REPLIED “WE WILL HAVE TO KILL THEM”. SOUNDS LIKE JOE STALIN TO ME. GREENWALDS ESTIMATION IS AYERS GAVE THE NUMBER BETWEEN 25-30 MILLION.

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:02 pm 45. Believer:

Will McCain learn at least one thing from this campaign — that working across the aisle with Dems only gets you into trouble.

They are crooks. Frauds. They haven’t the people’s good in mind when they decide to do something, but their own. Intent on legislation that works to gain more votes, and therefore more power, for them. Or secure their hold on power.

McCain, don’t be a nice guy like Bush. Working to please the Dems is lethal. Look at the UNDER 10% approval rating of Congress. Don’t go near them. Look what it did to Bush.

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:07 pm 46. Ditto:

cfbleachers wrote Leave the gun, forget the cannoli.

cfbleachers I always enjoy your posts so much. Thank you for helping me find a way to chuckle. I mean that sincerely. Chris (#27) you’re exactly right. That is the story here. NC Mountain Girl, Res ipsa loquitur indeed. This was done very deliberately.

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:10 pm 47. jeffk:

American President Barack Hussein Obama.

I hope you all got migraines just reading that. You can dredge up all the phony conspiracy theories you want, but you’re still gonna lose, and you only have yourselves and your awful candidates to blame.

Oh, and here a pro tip: phrases like “Kool-Aid” and “Obamabots” make you look like shallow ideologues who are only capable of parroting other people’s cliches. Instead of demonizing those educated “elites,” you should try learning to think for yourselves. It’s hard, but it’s worth it in the end!

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:10 pm 48. Dave:

Truth First talks a lot like, um, every follower of every radical brutal dictator that ever lived.

I”m on your side, dear leader, hear me praise you and please don’t kill me.

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:12 pm 49. asdf:

Truth First
How did Liberia work out for your peeps? Yea that was great and just what we need here.

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:14 pm 50. Doris:

“Impeach hearings should begin Inauguration Day if Obama ‘wins’.”

Impeach Obama the first day on the job? For Fraud?

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:16 pm 51. L:

Get a grip floks. Donations of $200 of less do not have to be reported. US citizens livng in other countries have every right to donate money to any person they would like. Those donations that have a problem (no name match) etc, will be flaged by the FEC. However, this takes forever and happens with all campaigns.

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:18 pm 52. Drew:

“…underground finance operation…”
Sounds like a recipe for money-laudering to me.
Just who are these people, and where is this money coming from?

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:22 pm 53. Brett Skinner:

Regarding the post from Truth First (a prime example of a student of Black Liberation Theology, BTW)–

I am a white Afican, my family has been there for 319 years.

I left Zimbabwe for America because I was sick and tired of living under a marxist tribal bully.

Tribalism kills in Africa.

Headlines show a bunch of Africans chopping each other up? Nothing new, has always been so, will always be so. They like it that way, it is the natural order of things African.

It is the continent of the big man who is free to plunder ’till the next big man unseats (or beheads) him.

Liberals, disabuse yourselves that Africa will ever be peacefully democratic.

Be realistic and consider the bloody history of post colonial Africa.

Colonialism was the single most benign blessing ever bestowed on a brutal and primitive continent.

The best thing that could happen to Africa is recolonization, a process China is undertaking as we write.

Africa will always be a vassal continent, her people serfs, serving powers which only demand her minerals and wealth.

Do not expect Western habits and mores from Africa — these are foreign virtues incomprehensible to the natives.

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:31 pm 54. 1VoiceInAVacuum:

After looking a “Truth First”’s blog, I understand the post willful blindness exhibited in the post here.
Another example of those who, like Barrack Obama, believe their bigotry and hatred is righteous and everyone who thinks otherwise is an obstacle to their utopia, and therefore must be re-educated or destroyed.
As much as fools such as “Truth First” would like to believe they hold the correct view as to what “truth” is and how we all should live, this is not the first time in history people have believed they were on a new and perfect path.

P.T. Barnum’s observation as to a fool being born every minute is as true today as the day he said it.

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:39 pm 55. Sandy Salt:

Rachel, yes you may use the strip club example. Sandy

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:51 pm 56. nlcatter:

Rhodes stole the land from african at point of gun

dont you dare tell me you are a white afrikaner!

any more than a German owning jewish land in Warsaw was a ‘pole”

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:57 pm 57. nlcatter:

campaigns do not have to do real time checking

the auditing does that

and IT WORKS

Oct 24, 2008 - 1:59 pm 58. Paul:

FYI, I tried this and it works.I was able to make donations to the Obama campaign with a illegitimate address that went through while failing on McCain’s system.

http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:01 pm 59. Damien:

Great, the Democrats have done such a great job since taking over Congress! Recession, unemployment on the rise! Way to go…. The Dow has dropped more than 5,000 point since they took over.

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:13 pm 60. cfbleachers:

Thanks for the kind words, Ditto. If we don’t laugh from time to time at this situation, they might have to start installing diving boards on skyscrapers.

Impeach Obama? Hmmm. I’m not all that enthused about a Biden/Murtha ticket taking over the controls, for instance. I’m not sure what that press conference would look like, but if one could imagine Norm Crosby on angel dust, it would begin…begin…to conjure up the closest approximation.

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:15 pm 61. John Galt:

The mistake that a lot of Obamabots are making is that they are buying the package. The guy is an empty suit – a perfect vessel for the far left. He’s not using them, it’s the other way around.

Why do you think that little punk Bill Ayers recruited him to the CAC? Obama is bought and paid for, and if he becomes POTUS, the bill will come due.

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:16 pm 62. teennc:

Why can’t we all just get along? Why is there so much hatred and racial comments on here? We are all a part of the human race, no matter what color, creed, or nationality. We are one. If one statement stands true, it is UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL. LaLa, there are all types of people, white, black, Jews, Africans, Catholics, young and old voters who are going to go out and vote Obama…so why do you think that this is a problem. You are entitled to your own opinion and who you will vote for, but why be so empty on your words of spreading a dislike for other races and nationalities?

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:18 pm 63. Tom:

What a bunch of sore losers. Way to go Obama! So call me a sell-out

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:22 pm 64. Janet:

Obama received donations from over 3 million contributors averaging a little over $80. each. His money comes from grassroots supporters not from pacs or lobbyists. It is not required by Obama or by McCain to report small donars under $200. The GOP can’t stand it that Obama is raising more money than they are with this grassroots movement so they have to deliberately make nefarious contributions to try to convince the public he did something wrong. These contributions are not handled directly by the Obama campaign anyway. They are handled by an outside company hired by the campaign.
As far as Obama going back on his word in taking public financing. That didn’t happen either. He clearly wrote in his explanations that he would consider taking public financing if the other side agreed to it as well. His campaign contacted the McCain campaign to discuss the posibility but they were not open to it. The minute Obama announced he wasn’t taking the Public Financing, McCain immediately said he had decided to accept it while screaming bloody murder that Obama had lied. The right-wing media picked up McCain’s cry and ran with it. Keith Olbermann was the only one who investigated and presented Obama’s handwritten comments on his show proving he didn’t lie about it. The whole thing is reminiscent of McCain’s efforts to paint Obama as someone who wouldn’t visit our troups when he was in Germany. It was all a political set-up by McCain but that one didn’t fly because Andrea Mitchell told the truth. There is one thing McCain is more experienced at than Obama. It’s playing the game of a Washington insider politician’s dirty tricks. He’s an expert at it. This latest huffing and puffing by the GOP over contributions is just another smokescreen hoping to fool low informed voters.

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:28 pm 65. Pat Riot:

Good work, Republicans. If you wanted to win, you should’ve nominated Ron Paul. He makes up for all (and there are plenty) of McCain’s weaknesses. Too late now. Reap what you sow. Good thing you got a “mainstream” candidate without those “crazy” ideas concerning foreign policy and economics. Thanks for screwing it up for everybody.

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:42 pm 66. sbtx:

“Consider the cases of Obama donors ‘Doodad Pro’ of Nunda, N.Y., who gave $17,130, and ‘Good Will’ of Austin, Texas, who gave more than $11,000—both in excess of the $2,300-per-person federal limit. In two recent letters to the Obama campaign, Federal Election Commission auditors flagged those (and other) donors and informed the campaign that the sums had to be returned. Neither name had ever been publicly reported because both individuals made online donations in $10 and $25 increments.”

http://www.newsweek.com/id/162403

Lax security measures, lack of oversight, and returning money only after being audited. Now that is political CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:44 pm 67. Sandy Salt:

Did you really think that it wouldn’t go through?

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:44 pm 68. mike d:

This issue is a completely irrelevant, racist distraction, and would only be front page news if it was McCain’s campaign instead of Obama’s.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Regards,

The Mainstream Media

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:47 pm 69. steve:

Wow. Wow. suztours…..Do you really not know why Africa is the way it is now? In the 19th century Europeans (America stayed out of this) carved the continent up and plundered and pilfered causing mass chaos. When they understood what was happening, they fled suddenly. Read some history please.

Also, is this really journalism???? Evidence is usually a requirement.

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:48 pm 70. steve:

Oh and some random guy telling some story about a credit card charge, that’s not evidence, he could be about as credible as the girl who carved a “B” (backwards at that) into her own face.

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:52 pm 71. lily:

alot of the comments seem negative and biased on race, religion…..it just goes to show ignorance. at the end of the day whether mcain or obama wins….obama has made history, its time people realised that america belongs to no one but the american indians…and unless youre purely that,you need not to speak… america is a melting pot of many races where you can be whatever you want to be……whoever called obama antichrist…go read your bible again!!!!!!!! its sickening when people just cant let things be……

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:53 pm 72. Jeffrey Smith:

You’ll never see an article like this in the mainstream media. They’re too busy trying to find out how much the republicans spend on clothes and hairdressers. Real news gets swept under the rug while the media panders to people like Truth First and attempts to punish anyone who might ask a question about the Almighty Obama. Propoganda is sooooo 1930’s. How can so many people be buying into it?

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:53 pm 73. Senroria Land:

Obama is nothing but a man. He is not God! You must be drunk to write some mess like that! Obama is so crooked until it smells! People are acting like he is the Messiah! To me, this is another Jim Jones!

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:55 pm 74. Magnum USMC:

Truth First. I Hope you openend some eyes. Unlike bush .i stood buy and said nothing about this guy .for many years serving in the core .and when one person comes through with the, know how to get things rolling.and bringing our country out.from a very bad meltdown. theres a problem.just because of a little color of skin .sorry were not all the same .every one has a agenda to follow in there life .I have chosen to fight IED . and fight for my country.every day i pick up a M.R.E to eat i dream of some thing better ..so if that person wants to be president .thats what im over here taking shots for ..the americans that want to be americans.. this goes out to all the guys and ladys in my unit that ive lost. I take my hat off to responsability

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:56 pm 75. tangie:

thank you for your donations we need it for the last week of campaigning. What are you guys talking about. This election is going to change lives. This tell me that all of you guy are very young. And Boris i hope this is not the Boris from Dallas.

Oct 24, 2008 - 2:58 pm 76. patricia:

TF’s message should be taken seriously. Did anyone ever belive 911 would not happen. What is not credible about a black muslim wanting to run our country toward it’s distruction?

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:02 pm 77. EX-REPUBLICAN:

It seems to me alot of folks here basically just don’t like Obama. I don’t either, but i think he’s way better than McCain and the ignorant barbie. Am sure he like’s them young, McCain that is, all his women are alot younger. Truthfirst might be day-dreaming but Obama sure has better inspirational and curious intellectual abilities than the 72yr old grumpy man. Anger seems to be the only way he uses to cnfront issues that require just a little bit of self awareness and calmness.
Obama has shown better leadership than McCain. He’s 72yrs old jacks, he wont live long enough before Palin becomes our president, and thats what most other republicans are scared of too.
So, you all can say things about Obama, but you should take a good look at yourself and imagine why alot more people support him. Hes the new age, new thinking. China and France has moved way ahead of us, we sit here in our trailers and think the country is doing good. Maybe it’s time to accept a change, our country has been dragged through a very poor leadership and while we hoped McCain will do better, he went and picked a VP that just meant disaster, and that was his first major decision. Lets imagine what kind of decision he’ll be making after that.
I’ll be voting Obama.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:04 pm 78. tim maguire:

51. L–the problem is that this is an organized effort by the Obama campaign to subvert campaign finance law. It appears also to be theft as at least some of the people gettng billed for donating to the Obama campaign claim never to have donated–but there the charges are on their credit card bill, all made possible by the Obama campaign.

Of course, Obama will not be impeached. The Democratic Party has seen to that by devaluing the impeachment threat for the last 8 years.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:08 pm 79. nlcatter:

colin powell said Patricia is a bloody Moron

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:13 pm 80. James:

I know all of you Obama haters are really proud of the last eight years and are afraid that if Mr. Obama wins he might start an unnecessary war, or drive the economy down to nothing, or be in bed with big oil companies but fear not my friends! I also know that most people are not only scared of change but they are also scared of skin color. (Insert scary Halloween sound here) Honestly how can you want four more years of this? Wake up and look around – we are not the big bad bully on the block that we think we are. We are in debt to China, big time – and the world hates us. Things have to change – NOW! If China and Russia team up we are through. Our armed forces are stretched so thin that if anything else breaks out we cannot handle it. Why do you think so may people are donating to Mr. Obama’s campaign? We are tired, very tired of this good ol’ boy system. Whomever wins please support your American President but let’s hope it’s not McBush and that funny idiot from the land of snow and ice.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:14 pm 81. nlcatter:

just like I said the auditing works

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:15 pm 82. Believer:

Democrats have nominated a morally weak, ethically-challenged candidate. And that doesn’t address his complete lack of experience to take over the presidency in a time of so much turmoil.

He’s just been fortunate to have so many in the media aiding him to hide his flaws.

But unfortunate enough to have added Biden to his ticket to remind us of how unfit he is for this time in our nation’s history. We haven’t the luxury of enjoying a nicely groomed, beautifully dressed man delivering pretty speeches from time to time.

Let’s let McCain get us through these tough times. His strength on foreign policy and willingness to do the right thing to turn our economy: cut taxes and cut spending — will get us back on track.

He’s shown the character and judgment Obama lacks.

Charles Krauthammer gives his endorsement to McCain. A link at drudgereport.com will get you there. Worth the read.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:15 pm 83. confused:

Wow, not a one of you are saying anything. I have used both systems for donations and both are correct. I have never been over charged and not every body uses the code. From what I’m hearing and seeing is that everyone is trying to prove this article for their personal reasons.

Obama and McCain are humans and at this point neither one can clean up this mess that we are in within the next six months. For eight long years we have slowly been in a recession. Bush always gives refund in his last year of term. The first time he taxed people on what was given. The people became angry about so this year he decides you will not be taxed.

We did not win the Vietnam war, I am so tired of hearing about experience. How many of you went to apply for a job and either you were under qualified or over qualified and did not get the job or started at minimum wages. Its not if you are under or over qualified…can you do the job.

Stop haggling people about their believes and telling them who to vote for and who not to vote for. The media is a fraud it self. Just go out and vote and wait to see who wins.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:18 pm 84. Meghan:

Well said Joanna, and I look to God for guidance, not King Obama or Washington.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:19 pm 85. BushLover:

More sliming from the far right that can never win with issues because Americans know that they love the rich and alone the rich.

As usual, no proof, no evidence, just hatespeech.

The law says that those donating less than $200 don’t have to have their personal information made public.

The ratwing wants to get all those names so they can call them all evil socialists and harrass them.

This is one of a series of lies, hatred, and viciousness from the McCain/Palin party that has proved itself to be liars, cheats, and pro the terrorist AIP gang in Alaska who say they will slaugther any US troops that stop Alaska from seceding and taking ALL AMERICANS oil with them.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:22 pm 86. Ogre:

How hard would it be to find out how many illegal donations where made and what amount of money was involved? From a computer expert perspective, the theoretical code (SQL) to do the job took me about 30 seconds to write. The credit card processing service has this information in their systems so it’s not too late to find out what’s going on.

I’d really like to see some people in power with the balls to force a proper investigation. I’m not holding my breath.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:26 pm 87. BushLover:

Jeffrey Smith:

“You’ll never see an article like this in the mainstream media. ”

Because the mainstream media doesn’t publish LIES, unlike far right bloggers.

McCAin says that Obama is wrong to give YOU a tax cut. He just wants the richest, like Cindy who INHERITED her money and never worked much at all, to get another big fat tax cut. He’s afraid if he doesn’t get her more tax cuts she’s going to cut him off.

She knows he’s a cheat – she cheated with him when he was married to Carol, who waited for him while he was in Vietnam. So she keeps all her money in her own name. McCAin has to beg her for money. She bought herself a private plane, but only lets him fly it once in awhile.

She knows what kind of man he is: someone you can’t trust to cheat on you. He’s a pig with no lipstick. He call her a prostitute and a c–t when he was in a rage, which he often is.

Don’t vote for someone who could go into a rage and push the red button and blow up the world.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:27 pm 88. LAMinPA:

You know, I took the time to type out what I really felt about this article, but most of you pissing,moaning pity-party throwing Repubs don’t deserve the effort it takes to explain what is going on. You gripe now, but once Sen. Obama get in there and starts getting government, the economy and the country on the right track(if ‘ol GW hasn’t FUBAR’d it)you’ll all be walking around posing crap like “I voted for him”. Why not just shut up and let something good happen for once??

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:35 pm 89. Lesser of two evils:

USMC… you should have taken advantage of that GI Bill, those of us in the military with an education are voting for McCain… not because he’s the answer but because the alternative is far worse. If Obama wins, stand by for a ringside seat at socialism first hand, government will get bigger and bigger and more invasive into all your lives!

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:35 pm 90. Jim Baker:

Obama is a communist. The ends always justify the means, according to the communists. Did we really hate Bush enough to do this to ourselves? Amazing.

Sarah Palin for VP!

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:35 pm 91. Old Timer:

Believer, you are right about the results of Bush “reaching across the aisle”. All he got out of it was a swift kick in the groin. Bush seems stunned by what is happening and fails to point out that the foundation for the current economic disaster was laid by a Democratic president with a veto proof Democratic senate majority way back in 1977. I would suggest the most critical aspect of the 2008 election is not who wins the presidency but holding on to the Republican “veto busting” numbers in the senate. I shudder to think what Obama will do with a rollover veto proof Democratic majority in the senate.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:38 pm 92. David F.:

Truth first,

When you say Obama is “a decendent of kings and queens who started civilization”, do you mean Mesopotamia? Or do you mean Jericho, or the Babylonians? Who are you referring to? Obama doesn’t have any Middle-Eastern or Persian ethnicity, or does he? He is half caucasian and half Western African. Civilization did not start in Europe or West Africa.

I like the flowery, poetic tone. I understand that if you are from another country, the idea that Barack Obama is going to be President of the US is very exciting and groundbreaking. I think that’s the message of your blog. I don’t take offense to your message.

You state that, “it is a fact it is history, Barack Obama will be your new president.” If you really our a supporter, don’t jinx it. If you are a right winger who is posing as a supporter in a radical way, it’s not working!

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:39 pm 93. cft:

What happens if all the people making these test contributions look them up on their CC websites and then dispute them with the CC company, not Obama?

Obama seems to accept even $5 contributions.

Just sayin’.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:43 pm 94. “Obama’s Fundraising Fraud” « One American Voice:

[...] 24, 2008 · No Comments “He may now be running the biggest underground finance operation since Nixon deployed the plumbers as his key operatives in [...]

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:44 pm 95. win:

shake

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:44 pm 96. Sabrina:

I think you all are unfair. lets talk about palin and her shopping or how she told a 3rd grader the VP job was to run the senate! Obama is smarter,younger and better looking and has 10 times more class. Obama got the money from a supporter, i don’t care if it’s micky mouse it’s that supporters money and they can give it if they want to.
Mccain and his supporters are just upset he raised more money. I am watching the news and now I see this lady from the Mccain camp just lied about a black man beating her, to make blacks look bad,lucky the police caught her. This lady is said to have mental problems (should she even be working on a campaign?) Mccain has no class. You Mccain supporters are dumb or selfish because you don’t look at the facts of the two candidates you are looking at race or trying to keep your selves rich. Im not saying obama is Great or a god, but Mccain and his campaign is a joke. Obama is winning for a reason!

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:46 pm 97. Old Timer:

Ex-Republican:

After reading your dribble, I’m convinced that you never were a Republican. You simply don’t have the brains to have ever been a Republican. Stay down there in the Democratic party pigpen where you belong.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:47 pm 98. Anonymous:

you are an idiot

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:48 pm 99. Anonymous:

So many uneducated people on here who believe a republican Government that lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction to make war,who then went in and attacked and caused the loss of so many great men and women. They have made america socialist because we all have to cope with paying for this leniency towards Wall Street. Bush goes out with the lowest ever presidency rating ever!!! Now you want a government run by someone who may kick the bucket very soon and leave someone who has the intelligence of some girl on the make-up counter at Macy’s running our country. On the other hand we have Obama the only negativativity is his color, not what hes offering or proposing. SNL had it right last night, who needs a carbon copy Bush and a little folky Miss to manage America. When we have the intelligent Obamma who hasn’t attacked on anything but policy’s of McCain. You have already got my vote, even though I waited an hour and with the line behind me at the voting booth hundreds of others will do so too.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:49 pm 100. Martins:

LALA: Hey, do you remember that “W” too had the privilege of reading the teleprometer, but due to his reading disability (RD) he always appeared as if words stuck in his brain so that he stuggled to verbalize them? You can compare that with the big “Os” eloquence in reading the teleprometer. Whom would you rather have reading the teleprometer for you? Of course you know who!!

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:50 pm 101. Rip:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it illegal to accept donations from people that don’t exist, or from foreign citizens?

I wonder why this is allowed to happen?

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:54 pm 102. Weighco:

This is all so ridiculous. Obama isn’t required to disclose contributor information for contributions under $200. Deal with it.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:56 pm 103. Anonymous:

BELIEVER you are out of your head!!! Foreign policy my foot McCain has this advantage. He wants preconditions in every discussion with anyone,
Why do we need pre conditions when we could at least start talks with a lower end official, but no we can’t do that with McCain.
If I was in an argument with my wife, and I told her we will not talk unless she makes my bed, makes my dinner and pours me some coffee. She’d tell me where to go.
The same is with foreign diplomacy, we need to talk more not go to war all the time. We have to much Cheney war dictation we don’t need a proud and prideful McCain saying ” Nah not talking with him”

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:56 pm 104. Jeffrey Smith:

87. BushLover:

Jeffrey Smith:

“You’ll never see an article like this in the mainstream media. ”

Because the mainstream media doesn’t publish LIES, unlike far right bloggers.

You accuse them of lying and then you don’t give one shred of evidence that they are, you just parrot gossip about McCain you saw on tv or the internet. You just made my point for me. Real news gets swept under the rug while the smear campaign takes center stage.

Oct 24, 2008 - 3:58 pm 105. Andea:

Is this called Pajamas Media because you live in Mom’s basement and sit around in your PJ’s all day while Mommy works to support you? And how many of your supporters do the same thing?

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:01 pm 106. David F.:

If Donald Kent Douglas is reading this, please respond.

1. I think it is hilarious that right-wing McCarthyists like yourself, have donated to Obama’s campaign thinking that you are undercover muck-rakers. You gave money to the enemy. You people are not freedom fighters, your not deep-throat.

2. The campaign finance reform was to keep big-business out, not the common-man from inputting, now that the common-man has chosen it’s candidate, the right-wingers are crying foul. Just like you did with ACORN. Unfornately for you, we don’t buy it. ACORN is self-policing and self-reporting. Those are two tidbits national socialists like yourself have failed to report as well. Maybe you should re-read the Leviathan. You and your kind have not respected the social contract.

3. This is nothing like the treason committed “Plumbers.” They were spying, wiretapping, breaking-in, illegally-entering and unermining the entire spirit of democracy. Maybe you should re-read “The Republic” You need someone to show you the shadows aren’t real.

4. This is just personal. I am glad I never had a poly-sci class with you. You clearly do not understand even the basic underpinnings of our political system.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:02 pm 107. maryjane:

It goes both ways just look at the fraud perpetrated by the McCain campaigner who falsely said she was attacked and blamed it on a tall black man talk about dirty politics. That is the worst of the worst .Talk about drinking the koolaid most of you seem to be dringing from the mcCain cup of lies and misleading statements.Do you really think with what is going on McCain would not raise taxes either that or drop S.S. taxes to make up for things.We need to work to save S.S not desyroy it like McCains wants to do. His healthcare plan is worse than any plan i have encountered in my 45 years of working.If McCain should win this election ,pray God he does not< he will destroy the fabric of this great country.40 years ago he may have been proclaimed a hero??? but what has he done since but back President Bush and his policies.I voted for Bush so I know how wrong my vote turned out to be.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:03 pm 108. common sense:

if all of you havent completely lost your minds…if you have half of a brain at all, you would know not to vote for obama. If you want a president that doesnt even salute the flag, then you prob. shouldnt even be living in america, which by the way the forefathers that wrote the constitution that is a decalaration of freedom and not one religion or another, is based on fundamentals that are for an integration of multiculture, multi-religion and background without segregation and without discrimination.

a free country of all people from various backgrounds. If a candidate doesnt even salute the american flag, then he is not wise and doesnt deserve to be considered president and shouldnt have ever been running and have ever even gotten this far.
Go do your own homework.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:05 pm 109. Terry Ott:

Wow, am I ever glad I came on here and learned from Truth First. If Obama should fail to become our Most Righteous Inspired Emperor, or whatever title he bestows on himself, I’m off to Africa to get me some of what Truth First is alluding to.

Fact is, I am partial to medium rise condominiums in the central city, racially diverse neighborhood, with lots of stores, restaurants, and entertainment within walking distance, a couple of professional sports teams, blues and jazz, — and a sports bar across the street (which I have now). Wondering if all African countries have plenty of those kinds of neighborhoods and housing, or do I have to narrow it down to just a few countries?

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:06 pm 110. David F.:

I have to know specifically where you indoctrinate. What is the name of the private business academy where you indoctrinate young fragile minds? What’s the name of your political science class?

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:13 pm 111. Johng1208:

Hey LaLa: It’s great living abroad, you should try it. You will get to appreciate what else goes on in the world besides getting fat at a fast foods store. As an American living abroad I’ve already made my donations and cast my vote. Just think, when Obama wins you might be my neighbor!

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:14 pm 112. ed:

And with Nobama as president, the sign entering the US will read, “Welcome to the United States of Socialism”, NOT the United States of America.

Glad all you SOCIALISTS can rejoice on that.

Speaking of which. all you SOCIALISTS can burn in hell too or leave the US cuz I don’t care.

Nobama will give away all the available jobs to all the illegals/ minorities that ain’t qualified and screw the honest, QUALIFIED candidates for jobs they apply for.

Yeah that is what American is all about: screw the legal,USA born citizens and support the illegals and give them as much free stuff so ALL of us taxpayers can pay for.

U democrats SUX!!!!!!!!!1

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:17 pm 113. David F.:

Terry Ott,

Is that what it’s all about? People like you, are why My friends get harassed abroad. You need to go to another country. The rest of the world doesn’t have it as good as we do,not because they are lazy or stupid, they don’t have resources, money,an infrastructure,food, freshwater or farmland. Many of these countries have been slaves of imperialism for centuries. It takes more than a few generations to rebuild and become self-sufficient, especially when there is an overlord who wants to steal your resources and replace your governments with one of their choosing. You need to read a book: “Guns, Germs and Steel.” We are not so superior, maybe even just lucky.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:22 pm 114. Anonymous:

ed we aRE ALREADY THERE WITH THIS BAILOUT

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:24 pm 115. David F.:

Ed,

Do you know what socilism is? It is a bridge between capitalism and communism, but also the securement of public utilities for the common good from public investment. I’ll bet you use socialist things: Police, Fire service, Roads, Libraries, Parks, Nature Preserves, Post Offices, Ambulance service, Paramedics and 700 billion dollars. LOL

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:27 pm 116. win:

Yea,Johng1208 you are right.When Obama wins she will have to get out of America in a hurry.Make travel plans LaLa.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:30 pm 117. tom hasbrouck:

McCain and his Republican lackeys are entirely clueless. They have absolutely nothing to offer other than the same fear, devisiveness, and bold faced lies they’ve been spewing for decades. It’s time to move past their 1950’s mentality and actually deal with the challenges facing this nation.
I find it pathetic to watch idiots who have been getting screwed by the Republicans for years get fooled again and buy into their bullshit.
McCain is no maverick. He’s morphed so much to get the Republican nomination that I don’t even think he really know’s who he is.
Palin? What a scream.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:33 pm 118. ed:

Yeah and we gonna be IN socialism if NOBAMA wins the election or you just too dumb to figure that out?

Only thing Joe the plumber did was ask a simple question and Nobama didn’t like Joe’s response and then does a smear campaign on an average citizen that asks a question?

The spin from Nobama only makes me laugh…he makes Nixon look innocent.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:37 pm 119. Ayres Narita:

I got it…

Pajamas Media = Fox News

Very biased…

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:39 pm 120. ed:

David,
The DEMOCRATS were too ignorant to listen when it was 1st reported that freddie and fanny were gonna go belly up but did they lsten? HELL NO!!!!!!!

The bailout was the DEMOCRATIC spin machine..and we can thank the DEMOCRATS for ths mess.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:40 pm 121. boilingpoint24:

Theres a bunch of hater out there. And till this day a bunch of racist people who cant stand to see a black man become president. You guys need to grow up like the last 8 yrs was so great with a white man in office, If anything this country got turned upside down. Everything is so expensive people are losing their homes. It doesnt matter what color the president is as long as he gets the job done thats all that should matter. So all you people who are hating on Obama get a life. Slavery ended so long ago yet there is still alot of racists in this country. Obama is giving anything to illegals he’s fighting for middle class people white or black it doesnt matter getting your facts straight before you decide to put your imput. Like the next guy is any better he’s been office for how long and didnt accomplish anything nor has she another idiot she is with ubetcha attitude. All you un educated people if you have nothing nice to to say about someone keep it to yourselves .

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:45 pm 122. Roberta Schoen:

All get ready to bow to Allah Obama..
Lay your riches on the alter…and give all to the divine Messiah.,…

Think the women will look good in birkas???

THINK PEOPLE, THINK…..ALL THIS ASSOCIATION WITH SOCIALIST, EXTREME RADICALS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE…HE HAS BEEN HONED TO BE THE NEW DICTATOR OF OUR FREE WORLD…

HIS HYPNOTIC RHETORIC IS NAUSEATING TO ME…I HATE HIS STILTED SPEECH…AND I REFUSE TO GIVE UP MY AMERICA TO THIS FRAUD….!!!

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:47 pm 123. Anonymous:

Ed sides with a non tax paying citizen who has a lien against him. Shows what ed is voting. With a 700 billion payout we are already in a Socialist climate

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:48 pm 124. ed:

Fox news – fair and balanced

abc, cbs, nbc – extremely biased…. u want an example? the biden gaffe in washington state this week and do u think the big 3 reported it? Nope….
edited for their candidate: NOBAMA.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:50 pm 125. ed:

ed voting mccain tyvm

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:51 pm 126. Roberta Schoen:

I read a blog yesterday from a man who had voted early for Obama…

He was stunned to find they had charged $50 to his credit card…when he checked his online messages…Of course, without his consent..

Apparently, he signed up online to vote early, somehow had to register with a credit card…..and was very, very disgusted with the Obama campaign for taking advantage of him…

He stated had he known Obama was such a crook, he never would have voted for him..and wishes he could take the vote back….

NOW THAT, MY FRIENDS ,IS VIGILANTY CAMPAIGN FRAUD!!! AND HE WILL GET AWAY WITH IT…JUST LIKE HE DID WHEN HE TURNED THE TABLES BY STATING HE WOULD TAKE THE FEDERAL CAMPAIGN FUNDS…THEN BAILED ON THAT….
HE IS DEVIOUS…SOME WOULD SAY SMART…BUT, HEY, THE BEST CRIMINALS ARE BRILLIANT….

This is only a drop in the bucket as to what will happen if he wins….

Forget law and order….we will be in OBAMALAND…

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:57 pm 127. cfbleachers:

Only a fool confuses federalism with socialism.

Socialism is “Marxism lite”. Rather than totalitarian despots, we have despots by committee.
It is an economic clusterfrock based upon an overarching need to officiously intermeddle in competitive market affairs.

It is basically the creation of middle manager bureuacrats to oversee the sun rising and grass growing.

It involves the redistribution of property from those who have the abilities, to those who have the needs. It is bascially built by and for people who can’t stand fair competition, so they will only play in a rigged game.

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:59 pm 128. Anonymous:

Roberta the racist

Oct 24, 2008 - 4:59 pm 129. boilingpoint24:

Its long over due for a black president. Go Obama go we need a change in this country a white man could not get it so Obama will get the job done. so all you haters need to get use to a black man taking charge and cleaning up this mess that a the last president put us through. People are condeming Obama because hes black but hes half white also hes the man for the job so all you haters need to get a life. Lets give the man a chance we gave bush a chance look what happened the country went to crap. Obama is the one to get us back on track not mccain or palin. Obama for president thats right i said it Obama for president.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:00 pm 130. marshall:

obama is not and should not be in the white house read revalation in the bible and then vote ok. the world is in trouble and that all i got to say about that.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:03 pm 131. Anonymous:

Ed voting for Palin not McCain when he kicks the bucket Palin in the one. Smart cookie she is!!! Smart Ed more like special ED

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:05 pm 132. Ex-fetus:

“Just like they can’t find a strong, sinister connection between Obama and Bill Ayers.”

Actually, there are several, you just can’t see them because your eyes are closed. How about sharing an office? Have you EVER shred an office with anyone?
Prolly not. I doubt that anyone with your lack of perception will ever escape the cube farm.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:07 pm 133. Marc Malone:

Another article with Obama in the title brings out all the Obama trolls. PJM, quit publishing articles with Obama’s name in the title. These guys must spend all day looking for Obama articles.

Sabrina – Yours is the most disturbing post. I get that the others won’t even look at the facts. I understand TruthFirst’s overseas bias (which is why we need a natural-born citizen as Prez). But… you don’t CARE who donates? Any supporter, anywhere? What if that money comes from the governments of Iran, N. Korea, Venezuela, etc…? Do you not see how wrong that is? That’s just insane!

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:07 pm 134. David F.:

Ed,
Do you know what socialism is? I gave you some examples, do you want more. Education Grants, Daycare, public funding for the arts, public funding for sports arenas, The armed forces. Ed, all these institutions recieve your tax money, and benefit the public good. That is socialism. Are you against the army, Ed? You don’t support the troops?

You blame the democrats for the economic crisis. You need to look up something called the Bliley act of 1999, passed under a Republican controlled congress. It took away the last constraints set up by the 1933 Streagal act to prevent another Great Depression. If you don’t believe me, just Wikipedia the two laws. You are obviously at a computer.

Where did the 700billion go ed? It went to Bush and Paulson, last time I checked these are two you must support privatization of gain and socialism of debt? If you believe in a free-market economy, then you wouldn’t support Bush’s and Paulson’s Bailout Plan. You would let the market run it’s course, right Ed.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:08 pm 135. ed:

Anonymous,
Why u afraid to show ur name? U a terrorist like Ayers? Best friends with Barney Frank too? After all, they didn’t do nothing wrong lol just bomb white house and mislead people in US. no biggie lol

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:10 pm 136. Martin:

wow! A real honest to goodness in depth article! Thank you!

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:14 pm 137. David F.:

Hey, boiling point,

Why don’t we say he is white, since Obama is half black and white?

You know, from now on, I’m calling him white.

I’m supporting the next white president, Barack Obama.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:15 pm 138. ed:

And what part if Nobama is elected president that this country will be kknown as the United States of Socialism did u not understand pinhead?

And when replying to this post don’t be a BLOOTER!!!!

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:19 pm 139. Surprised:

People are calling Obama socialist here. But do you even know the reason???? All he said was that wealth was supposed to be distributed among the middle class people and not among the rich ones.What is bad about that???? This is what all democrats did in the past. Did that change America into a socialist’s country? Think before you speak!

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:19 pm 140. David F.:

Hey ed,

how come you quit addressing the questions I asked? Is it because the answers contradict your original points? I would like to know more of what you think.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:20 pm 141. Kristokoff:

A major reason we have all the problems we have in society is because people ignore fraud, scandals and history. Fraud by anyone should not be tolerated. If an investigation proves this to be true, they should be held accountable. People should not be slandered and forced to resign based on an accusation alone either. If the media continues to withhold information, then they are complicit in the fraud or scandal. Why do you think government, especially congress, is so corrupt?

My fellow citizens, especially democrats, stop electing public servants who have known scandals. We are all going to lose our freedoms. If politicians don’t care about their families and only care about themselves, do you think they care about you, their constituents? I have never seen so many people blindly ignore this and so many people misled by the media and politicians. The financial/housing scandal is a perfect example of all this. Clear your minds. Learn economics, study governments around the world, study state and city governments, study history. Then you will not so easily be misled.

Perhaps those that continue to ignore the fraud and scandals by our candidates and representatives deserve to have their money taken from them and given to others, they deserve to lose their jobs. But the rest of us who are tired of all the fraud, who are tired of being misled, who are tired of being patronized, who are tired of being accused of the various negative-isms they are practicing when legitimate issues are brought up, who are tired of the corrupt congress especially the current corrupt congressional leaders, who are tired of failed regulations and policies that are supposed to help and are tried repeatedly but actually make things worse and even encourage corruption to enter every aspect of our society, need to vote en masse. By the way, John McCain/Sarah Palin would win by a landslide.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:28 pm 142. Renegade:

Well, aren’t we in a pickle here? Rome failed in the same fashion and course that America is on today. When the citizens of a country depend on the government to provide for them, then the government SHALL fail. The simple fact that Obama will not place his hand over his heart during the playing of the National Anthem was enough to sway me to NOT vote for him. The fact that he will NOT place his hand on the BIBLE when being sworn in..was the nail in the coffin. The fact that he does not respect the FLAG OF OUR COUNTRY is downright TREASON! What are people thinking? Do you actually believe that you will get more FREE stuff? Do you actually believe that Obama is going to come and take MY wealth and disperse it to people that don’t care to earn it? Do you really believe that you will get FREE HEALTHCARE? What people NEED to do is get off their lazy butts and do something productive and stop waiting for the handouts. McCain was NOT my choice for the Republican Party, Fred Thompson was…but when I look at the worst of the two evils, McCain wins, hands down. Palin has not been indoctrinated by Washington, and I really like that. I will take the McCain/Palin ticket in a heartbeat.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:29 pm 143. Dan Tana:

No one will care until the Republicans use the same tactics.

The, as if an earthquake struck, the media will suddenly take notice and express concern about even the “appearance of impropriety”.

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:30 pm 144. ed:

Umm david,

tell the truth here instead of spin. Who has been in control of congress the last 8 yrs? not the repubs so get ur facts straight. The democratic spin machine been sending you so blntent lies that u so believe… It’s easy to point the finger at the other party es when UR party s the one that f’ed up in the 1st place.

I have my facts straight so what’s ur problem ?

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:32 pm 145. Mike:

If Ayers is so dangerous why is he teaching our kids?? You say things the media sparks out but you dont investigate or let your own free mind find out things, you are just sitting on your McDonald fat ass watching Fox

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:32 pm 146. ed:

I served in the armed forces david. remember when the draft dodger, Bill Clinton, put in the early out program? Clinton “elected” to leave out alot of the fine prnt called, oh yeah, we’ll pay u x amount of money if u serves x number of yrs at y pay rate and then as a reward for ur service to our country, we gonna tax u 28% on service pay…know why clinton didn’t mention that? it’s easy…clinton was more interested in getting head than performng the duties of the president…u wonder y it’s called the ORAL OFFICE??? ask clinton..

last democratic that was president f’ed our country over well…and we are to trust Nobama? i trust Nobama as far as i can throw him with ain’t very far…

btw, nobama admits to doing coke….last time i check it’s a felony so i guess u happy to support a felon too who is a fraud…

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:38 pm 147. ed:

u democratic bloggers bore me…. couldda got a better debate at a bar but i need cheap humor..and u democratc bloggers humor me by avoiding the fact that if nobama is elected and the key word is “IF”, the is goiing to be the United States of SOCALISM

Oct 24, 2008 - 5:43 pm 148. Michael:

I say win either one…….no matter who wins there will be down falls with either…..im sick of hearing black…..sick of hearing white……seems it has become more racist than anything…i lived through all……nixon…..impeached…..ford….carter….reagen…bush…..clinton…..bush…..good and bad with all….everyone hears all the crap on tv…..he signed this…..well he signed this…..alot of them are bills both signed…….they just didnt read the pork….bout tired of this entire election process……..I dont believe any party anymore

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Oct 24, 2008 - 6:00 pm 150. Mike:

We have socialist services already Fire, Ambulance, Education. So why not medical. I went to England got very sick, do you think they charged me no but I was cared for and helped like I was a citizen. That wouldnt happen here without a bill in an envelope later. I had a couple cry in my legal office because the medicare of this couple was insufficient to cover his medication. Do you know what they did to prevent this , they had to divorce so he got more medicare after 50yrs and being together they had to live in sin. Digusting bring on CHANGE bring on OBAMA

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:01 pm 151. Chelsea:

This guy hangs out with radicals, terrorists, racists (including the one he married), refuses to answer questions about the scope of his involvement with any of them. The organization he worked for is under investigation by the FBI in many states and has been caught fraudulently signing up voters who they know are not eligible to vote…Not a word from Obama.

This guy is a crook, cannot be trusted, and heaven forbid the Dems get what they want, by putting him in office, as they too will suffer the consequences of his Chicago style politics which he has so conveniently disguised throughout the campaign with the help of the Media Morons.

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:03 pm 152. Mike:

Chelsea read up the Republican party used ACORN too. Are you that uneducated????

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:07 pm 153. Renegade:

Michael….move to Mexico and visit cousin Fox. Maybe in a couple of years you may have a different view of this whole political fiasco. Freedom has a price and you were exerting a “freedom” when you typed your incoherent post. Deal with it or don’t waste the space.

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:08 pm 154. Mike:

Heaven forbid a woman who uses her husband for advice becoming president when McCain kicks the bucket

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:08 pm 155. Mike:

If Ayers is such a dangerous terrorist why is he teaching to our children

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:14 pm 156. Terry Ott:

Well David F, you’re making a few assumptions, huh? About 45 years ago I was the head of the Midwest chapter of an international economics student chapter. That got me started on a pretty interesting life. I lived and worked in Turkey before graduating from college. Long ago took the train through Europe, stopping and staying in Paris, Venice, Athens, Switzerland, and a few other places. That would be the Orient Express. I went on an assignment to China. Another to India, where I would rather not set foot again. Spent a vacation in Mexico City, another in Madrid. (I like cities more than landscapes, lakes, beaches or mountains — that ok with you?).

After my wife returned from her PhD field research in Kenya, we bought the inventory of an African Art import business and played with that for a while before donating the collection to a university that was getting its African Art program up and running. Last major trip was a WWII history thing from England to Normandy to Hitler’s Eagles’ Nest and all points in between like Holland, Belgium, France, Austria, Germany — concentration camps and all. Next trip will be around the Black Sea with time in Istanbul.

Along the way I was recognized by the Urban League for my “equal opportunity” work in a southern US city that was known pretty well for being the place Martin Luther King Jr.’s life was so prematurely ended. Had rats thrown in my yard and my house egged; considered that an honor, quite frankly. Lived in a predominantly Afro-American area of Washington DC for a summer during “Great Society” days, and a few blocks from Obama’s house on the South Side of Chicago (reminds me of a song) while going to the law school where he taught.

And Truth First says: “Barck (sic) Obama is here now to listen, to instruct and will lead you to your new life.” And you say: “People like you, are why My friends get harassed abroad. You need to go to another country.” Well, tell you what … been there, done that, and it broadened me and made me appreciate how special this place is. I lose patience with the “woe is me” crowd and the “woe is us” societies. Get your stuff together and do your thing. I live now in a neighborhood heavily populated with Russian immigrants. They start their businesses, get their jobs, and some get rich, and the rest get by just fine. If Barack wants to lead me toward the noble life of squalor and poverty that is much of Africa (which of course he won’t for he is a modern liberal biracial American), I ain’t goin’. And neither are the many people of all races and backgrounds whose lives are intertwined with ours, including my grandson-in-law from Mexico.

Take the “imperialist” drivel and all the so-called intellectuals who spout that nonsense, and head on down the road.

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:14 pm 157. Florida Female:

And people wonder why there are accusations of racism. Kool Aid? What place does even mentioning Kool Aid have in these discussions???

A. I highly doubt there is fraud involved in Obama’s fundraising efforts. Honestly, I think he’s just energized a lot of people to come out of the apathy they have been in for the past 8 years – Democrats and Republicans both. I donated just under $200 to the campaign, and I have NEVER donated to a candidate before. Nor have I ever volunteered for a candidate before, however I have done plenty of volunteer work for his campaign in my current home state of FL…and I think some of you would be surprised to see the number of Republicans supporting Obama…they may not outwardly say it or show it, but when I show up knocking at their door they sound relieved to be talking to someone who supports Obama…they fear no one else in their neighborhood does, but it is nice to offer them comfort and let them know a family a few doors down feels the same way.

B. I am tired of people drawing Obama as a viscious African or Muslim. Please just understand the two truths with respect to these notions…he is Bi-racial, meaning…he is of two races, as a large number of americans are today. He is of African descent, as well as WHITE ANGLO SAXAN AMERICAN descent. He is a PEACEFUL man and he is CHRISTIAN, but I echo what Powell said in that, if he WERE a Muslim, who cares?! He did not wear traditional “garb of Islam”. It was african clothing, God forbid he have a little fun getting in touch with part of his roots on a trip to Africa…a place that is part of his heritage. It’s like a Scottish-American wearing a kilt for Christ’s sake.

C. If you do not support Obama for president, it is your own choice. That is fine, it is your right as an American citizen to vote for whomever YOU believe will do the job best. Do we ever really know?? Honestly?? We were obviously proven WRONG in the case of BUSH. So do yourself a favor, vote on the issues…policy issues…plans for the future…level-headed and genuine leadership…birpartisan outlooks…not the false personal attacks that are being thrown back and forth between the parties. This is not me plugging that you should vote for Obama, this is just me saying understand who he is before ruling him out as an option. Don’t be coaxed into the psychology of fear through mailings such as the “Terrorists Don’t Care Who They Hurt – Barack Obama, not who you think he is” that was sent out by the RNC. Just keep up on the issues for yourself. Attend a rally, go to the candidates websites, read…

And after that, if you vote for McCain, that is your choice…and being true to YOURSELF is what you need to do.

No matter who is the next President, our country has a lot of learning and fixing to do, not just in policy…but as citizens together…we need to get beyond the division that has come about and unite as one to continue to be the best nation we can, for the future of our children and the future of the world.

God Bless America.

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:15 pm 158. thegr8_1:

Follow the money if you can this will tell you who is behind this magic act. What countries? If Obama runs his campaign cash like this what will running a multi trillion dollar budget be like?

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:26 pm 159. Renegade:

Mike…How do you figure that Fire,Ambulance and Education are socialist services? ALL of these services are paid for by LOCAL taxpayer dollars, NOT totally by government subsidies. Want to berate someone else’s educational status, as you did Chelsea’s? I’m your huckleberry. You aren’t impressing anyone here. As far as Ms. Palin running the country…I would certainly rather have her than an empty suit patsy like Obama, in office. Talk about a breath of fresh air!

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:28 pm 160. David F.:

Ed,

If you served in the armed forces, who paid your salary? The taxpayer did. That’s socialism.

Clinton isn’t in this election, let’s stay on course, OK.

Under Clinton, we had a balanced budget with a surplus, housing was up, unemployment was low, the dollar was up, gas was about $1 a gallon, etc… I don’t mind lies from a guy about a hummer. I mind lies that get young men killed by right-wing fascists. Yellow cake uranium and aluminum tubes, they found all that, didn’t they Ed. Your guy lied, ed, he lied.
You want to talk about felonies and lawbreaking. A right-winger is criticizing the Democrats for law-breaking. HaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Ollie North: Committed Treason, used drug money to by weapons from Iran, pardoned by Alzheimer President who probably forgot who he was pardoning.

Nixon: Secret Bombings, Secret Meetings, Anti-semite(listen to the tapes of the way he spoke to Kissinger) Illegal war, break-ins, wire-tapping, secret tapings, there’s too much.

Bush 1st: orders assination of democratically elected chilean president so ITT can retain copper mines and then puts in Pinochet, who was so bloody is compared to Polpot. Puts saddam Hussein in power and equips him with poison gas and biological weapons to fight Iran. Aren’t those weapons of mass destruction? Gives money and weapons to Al-Qaeda to fight Soviets in Afganistan. Hmmmmm? Known to associate with terrorists, we ought to check this guy out.

rush Limbaugh: convicted felon, can’t vote
Gordon Liddy: convicted felon, can’t vote
robert downey Jr.: convicted felon, can’t vote
Kelsey Grammer: convicted felon, can’t vote

This Bush: Drunk Driving, Public intoxication, cocaine use, cocaine possession, open alcohol, didn’t Laura Bush run some one over and kill them. Lied about war reasons, used position to benefit friends financially: Blackwater(owner has known Bush family since he could walk), Haliburton, etc….

Look, ed, you festering pile of stupidity and ignorance, how do address that laundry list of crimes?

Ed, Wikipedia socialism and then get ready to feel the feeling you have obviously felt since gradeschool: INTELLECTUAL INFERIORITY

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:39 pm 161. Self-hating boomer:

Jeez, Louise, where are all the ‘bots coming from? Are they making Messiahbots by the shipload in China?

Oct 24, 2008 - 6:47 pm 162. David F.:

Hey Terry,

Did you inherit your money?

If you went to all these places, surely you saw the level of economic inadequecy that exists on this planet, or did you “spend all your time in the cities.” Is it so wrong to level the playing field. Just because overpriveleged pukes like you got an opportunity, nobody else should? Living in squalor and poverty is not noble. What a callous and insensitive remark.

You are probably one of those morons who think Ayn Rand is a genius. She was a playwright and confused capitalism for democracy.

Oct 24, 2008 - 7:02 pm 163. Sam Duncan:

“The rest of the world doesn’t have it as good as we do, not because they are lazy or stupid, they don’t have resources, money, an infrastructure, food, freshwater or farmland. Many of these countries have been slaves of imperialism for centuries. It takes more than a few generations to rebuild and become self-sufficient.”

It took Singapore exactly one.

In 1965 when it achieved full independence (after around 150 years as a British colony, and two as part of Malaysia) its per capita GDP was $511: 113th in the world, below Laos, Yemen, and Albania. In 1995, it was nearly $24,000: 19th, ahead of Australia, Canada, and its former colonial oppressors in Britain.

It has, I think it’s safe to say, no natural resources to speak of, and by far the highest ratio of population to farmland in the world: 441,000 people per sq.km. (For comparison, the US has 179. 179 people, not thousand.)

But then, its independence movement wasn’t hijacked by Marxists. Soviet Russia had all of those things in abundance, and no imperialism (save its own). Yet it suffered famine and decay easily rivaling Africa’s – if not worse. I wonder why.

Oct 24, 2008 - 7:02 pm 164. Mike:

Fire, ambulance, postal service is a socialist pay scheme they come under the envelope of the goverment. When you receive payroll from them it has your States header on its paycheck. When a goverment runs something and dictates how its run its Socialistic. So if the government says cut down the spending you are making there we will give you no more money, and we cut three ambulances do you think it matters if you paid your taxes or not, no
The Army is an example too yet no , there cant be socialism in America.
I just want a medical benefit for everyone and not some rich Insurance company benefiting from us, choosing when my this lady cried in my office after working 48 yrs of her life and also paying for medical insurance they turn and say GET LOST YOUR INSURANCE DOESNT COVER THIS. As I said before seeing this couple in my office had a devout effect on me and the fact we dont want to cure this but enroll someone who is paid by Enron and other oil subsidies is terrible. Everyone deserves medical benefits, everyone.

Oct 24, 2008 - 7:04 pm 165. Renegade:

David F.

And I guess Ted Kenneny is really Saint Peter? LOL!

Oct 24, 2008 - 7:05 pm 166. myth buster:

As far as educational status goes, alas America already rejected the smartest and most educated candidates in this election (that would be Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul respectively). Paul is a doctor, so that is self-explanatory. Huckabee managed to work his way through college and get a degree in 2.5 years. True, he was forced to by circumstance, but how many people are capable of achieving that? Most would burn out under the stress. Hey, most college students can’t even finish a degree in four years even if they pay for it with cash or loans, let alone having to work their way through college while studying full time, plus they typically don’t have a family to support, which Huckabee did.

Face it, when compared to men who had to make decisions under stress and perform even when completely exhausted as McCain and Huckabee have, Obama is found wanting. Not only has Obama never been under fire, he’s never even been pressed to make a decision on a moment’s notice. As President, you have to be decisive even if you’ve been awake for 48 hours continuously, and you must be able to make the right decision. That means, you can’t hesitate, you can’t deliberate as much as you want, and you can’t put it off until you’ve had a full night’s sleep. You have to act, and the buck stops with you, so you have to be right.

Oct 24, 2008 - 7:47 pm 167. myth buster:

David F.
Don’t be an idiot. Working for the government and drawing salary for said work isn’t socialism. Socialism is taking money from one person and giving it to someone who hasn’t earned it. Soldiers earn their pay.

Oct 24, 2008 - 7:49 pm 168. diki:

I just feel like Obama is not quite a candidate that has a basic qualification to represent our country as president,the first impression (the appearance)along with the potential first lady (Mrs. Obama)in disregard Mr. Obama is a minority. I don’t think Amricans are ready to have a minority to be a president at this time, even though I am belong to a minority!

Oct 24, 2008 - 8:11 pm 169. ernie oertle:

Oh, FL Female – I so agree with you! Contributor `DoodadPro’ gives His Excellency O $17000 divided over 147000 separate transactions — what’s the prob? It’s all gahdim legal! Some Palestinian sitting in theGaza acts as middleman for WahhabiA-rabs, gives Hussein camel-choking sums in 23000 separate not-gonna-be-traced transactions — what’s the prob? Remember back about 3-4 yrs ago – theDems were saying they keep losing elections because they don’t play dirty enough? It’s cummin’ where we’re about to get the e-vile Repubs right where they’re gonna eat sumthin’ more than crow!!!
And DavidF, after all of our comrade’s sacrifices – `TheChange’ is at hand!!!!!!!!

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Oct 24, 2008 - 9:28 pm 171. ernie oertle:

Actually, I was putting you on. When I vote, I’ll vote for the war-hero. My sense is – FL Female is appallingly naive. And the `F’ in DavidF’s handle here, is for `fool’. Just the same, the fools are gonna carry the day and Changelicious will very unfortunately be our next POTUS. Yes Mythbuster, he is not fit and will hesitate and falter at some terrible moment for the nation, but he’ll have Chicago machine protection and a far-left Congress and an uncritical media, and we ThePeople won’t be able to rid ourselves of the Fraud that he is. I weep to think of theNOI staffing the WestWing, and that this is the world we are giving to our children.

Oct 24, 2008 - 9:46 pm 172. kileen G.:

One of the tenets of democracy is the will of majority carries the day always! The majority in IDEAS not skin hue! So when a hunger for change strikes, skin color will not matter. Suffering from inferiority complex (that leadership is a preserve for the majority race) will cease to be an impediment for that CHANGE! Thank you for pointing out the illegalities involved in contribution to Obama campaign. However, that is just a slight bump in Obama’s path to bring US change. Can you wake up to the reality that you are fighting a loosing war here???

Oct 24, 2008 - 10:30 pm 173. just a American:

155. Mike:

If Ayers is such a dangerous terrorist why is he teaching to our children

BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY STUPID PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oct 24, 2008 - 10:46 pm 174. just a American:

I have read Hillary Clinton’s history and her papers from collage.
I have read Michelle Obama’s collage writing.
So where is.
1. Occidental College records — Not released
2. Columbia College records — Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper — Not available
4. Harvard College records — Not released
5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
6. Medical records — Not released (”Doctor’s Note”) — Released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule — Not available
8. Illinois State Senate records — Not available
9. Law practice client list — Not released
10. Any articles published as editor of the Harvard Law Review, or as Professor at the University of Chicago.

WE HAVE NOT WHAT SEEN THIS INFORMATION PEOPLE WAKE UP! WE DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OBAMA BUT THE STORY HE HAS FED US!

ask the questions before its to late where is Obama’s history????????????????

Oct 24, 2008 - 10:52 pm 175. mi2u:

While I sincerely hope that Sen. Obama wins the election (and am among them who believe the only way he will lose it will be if the Republican party manages to steal the nomination again), there’s so much nonsense being written and spoken about him that I wonder if our electorate is smart enough to see through it all.

No, Obama is neither Saint nor Devil. He is just an ordinary man in most respects, but happens to be smarter than average, more committed to helping his fellow citizens and the rest of the world get along than others, and to have linked up with people who knew how to put together an absolutely terrific campaign strategy so that, even though he was virtually unknown a couple of years ago and even though he has a very unusual name and even though he has a biracial background — this solid citizen might actually become our President. Amazing. Wonderful. Almost unbelievable. But isn’t that what we were all taught COULD happen if you worked and studied hard and if you cared enough about your nation and its citizens?

We’ve had many many years of hateful governance by the Republican party that bears almost no resemblance to its own antecedents and values. Iin response to a Republican-leaning friend who was telling me how afraid he was of an Obama presidency, I said what I will say here — I’ve had to suffer and endure the horrors of Reagan I and II and BushJr. I and II. If Obama wins, suck it up and suffer. I promise you it won’t be nearly as hard to take for either American citizens or the world community as what we’ve had to endure.

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Oct 24, 2008 - 11:43 pm 177. Danuel:

When considering the negative attributed to the Dem party and the negatives attributed to the Rep party, it seems pro Reps are either extremely racist, extremely stupid or extremely controlled and possibll all three of the above.

The Reps just destroyed the financial and political integrity of our nation and possibly have destroyed the financial stability of the world for the greed of a few rich men and Saudi Arabia. Pro Reps voted a traitor into the presidency of the US. George W. Bush (the stupidest man in the world) allowed his stupidity to be manipulated by America’s version of Hitler (”Dick” Cheney) to allow 911 to happen for a false excuse to attack an irrelevant nation, murder our soldiers, rob our nation, Kill too my Iraqis, try to sell Saudi Arabia our seaports and allow many unfortunate deaths in Louisiana.

George W. Bush and his family are owned by the Bin Laden Family with whom they do billions and maybe trillions of dollars worth of oil business.

Bush should be investigated for his role in 911 and the destruction of our nation.
He is a mass murderer, thief, traitor, racist, liar, cheater and worst of all a stupid puppet manipulated by the evil puppeteer “Deadly Dick”.

The entire Bush administration needs to be prosecuted in the Hague for mass murder in this nation and genocide in Iraq and the US.

You pro Reps are frightening! How can you be so stupid. The Reps, Bush Adm, Palin and her puppet McCain are killing off the American armed forces and depleting our wealth. Those soldiers being killed are your sons and daughters. Why are you sacrificing your children for the selfish greed of just a few rich men and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia attacked our nation on 911 while the Bushes were doing Trillion dollar business transaction with the Bin Ladens.

Don’t take my word for it. Write Bush and ask him what is his relationship with the Bin Ladens and how close is he associated with the “Osama Bin Laden” that bombed the World Trade Center. Ask him how he let Bin Laden get away intensionally, according to his own generals.

And to attack the one person in this racist nation who is willing to risk his life to save the lives of your children and protect your wealth. This American hero is willing the save the livelihood of the very racist reps and dems who have threaten to kill him. All you stupid Rep lovers can do is insult him.

Just like the Bushes are felled by greed, so will greedy corporations fall, and the hateful will fall as well. The suffering will be too great for those with the greatest greed and hate.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:50 pm 178. karen:

No worry people – McCain will be president – he was ordained by the freemasons back in February.

Oct 24, 2008 - 11:52 pm 179. Kristokoff:

I have never really cared about politics and I have always thought politicians were all the same, greedy miscreants. While the latter impression hasn’t changed too much, I do see differences now. This is the first time I have ever wanted to be involved in a political campaign or felt like I needed to help others see truth. I probably would never waste any money by donating to any campaign and I have not been directly involved either.

It should not surprise anyone if there is fraud in politics, especially with so much money involved. The likelihood of fraud in politics should be a good reason to take a second look anywhere it may seem to be.

I was biased against all politicians when this all started. So I was able to step back and view politics from the outside. During my collegiate studies of economics and various social systems I began to realize there is a difference. A lot of the stuff politicians and the main-stream media were saying didn’t make any sense. I also noticed that democrats seem to be the ones that bring up the race card rather than discuss legitimate issues that someone has brought up. Democrat biased main-stream media, various politicians even Obama brought it up, maybe as a preemptive measure. Who knows. The politics of fear are alive on both sides. The completely debunked false ad that says McCain would cut Medicare for seniors is just one Obama ad. While there may be hatred among supporters on both sides. It seems to be coming from the left more than the right. I don’t understand the hatred toward someone who has views different than your own.

If you only watch main-stream media you would think republicans in leadership positions aren’t as intelligent as democrats. They seem to go out of their way to report only things that make them look bad. Democrats and republicans that have talked with and/or interviewed McCain, Palin, Bush and Obama all say they are smart, intelligent people. They say Bush is not dumb like a lot of people portray him to be. They say Palin is sharp, quick and very personable. I bet if the media were biased towards republicans most people would like G W Bush. Their perception of the economy and the war would be more positive. Well, until the financial crisis anyway. Congress’ approval ratings would still be deservedly dismal.

So I studied more. I studied governments around the world, state and city governments and history. Well I learned that when taxes are raised the economy slows; when taxes are lowered the economy grows. When the economy grows the government’s tax revenue increases. Second, as long as there are greedy, corrupt and/or lazy people, any centrally planned economy, whether it is socialism, nationalized programs, etc., will never work. It works against human nature, dampens the human spirit and encourages corruption, which makes its failure inevitable. Also, the bigger the government the more corrupt it is. Basically, socialism and redistribution schemes just push everyone down to the “lower class”. We would all be equal at zero or close to zero, except the ruling elite and the “super rich”, empowering them to oppress the “lower class”. Capitalism takes human nature; greed, corruption and the human spirit and puts it to work for the good of everyone.

It is widely known that you never raise taxes when the economy is in crisis. That will cause a recession to last for years, or even go into a depression. Economists also agree that raising taxes caused the great depression to last as long as it did. It also caused the long period of stagflation during the ‘70s. More and more economists from a wide political spectrum are starting to realize that Obama’s plan would raise taxes on the very people that will get this economy going. The very people Obama thinks he is helping will make less and lose jobs. They will be worse off. The unemployment rate will skyrocket. There is no incentive for the economy to grow, for jobs to be created. There are examples everywhere and in history that prove these issues. You just have to study and don’t blindly go along with the people your bias brings you to. Check everything. Just because you don’t like the guy you voted for last time, is not a good reason to vote for someone who would be even worse. Alas, though it may seem that I am biased now, I still check everything.

http://kristokoff.blogspot.com/

Oct 25, 2008 - 12:19 am 180. Tom the disabled teacher:

The” people who is trying to get the economy going “is the same people who destroyed our jobs we already had here in this country by laying off thousands and thousands in order to get the upper hand on working americans and gain power for the rich Republcans. If Obama’s campaign is getting illegal underground funds then why hasn’t it been proov’n . This is the problem with people who accuse other people of something out of bias. It’s a good thing you are not a prosecuter in our justis system or else every person who was accused of something without evidense would all be in prison. To bad we don’t have a DNA test where we could perform on people who are liars. You are not going to win this election against the democrats because some people can see right through Bulls–T. Good day!

Oct 25, 2008 - 2:34 am 181. FireWithFire:

Fact: the last 20 years of Republican control has nearly wiped this country off the map. It was the Republicans who legalized usury in the first place; setting us up for this economic crisis. It was the Republicans who toppled two democracies – one in the middle east through operation Ajax in 1953. The ramification of this remains with the special hatred the Iranians have for the United States (how would you feel if some foreign power toppled your democracy and installed a corrupt and brutal puppet regime?).
Fact: it was Republicans who abandoned the Afganis after flooding their nation with weapons back in the ’80s – which set up the perfect conditions for the Talibans and Al Qaidas rise to power in that region.
Fact: it was Repubicans who decided to go to war in Iraq months before 9/11, and used 9/11 as an excuse to whip up support. It was Republicans who lied to Congress for their vote. It was Republicans who told us the war would be over in “six months, tops”.
After 9/11, the world stood poised to rally behind the United States in any noble quest we choose. Instead, the Republicans decided to squander that power and attack a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11. It was Republicans who turned the nation with the best human rights record in the world into the one with the third worst human rights record on Earth. It was Republicans who decided to rape, maim, torture, and kill up to 600,000 innocent people just in the last 7 years. It was Republicans who turned America from the most noble nation on Earth into the paria state it is today.
It was Republicans who managed to turn a budget surplus into a $10 Trillion dollar debt – with virtually nothing to show for it. Squandering taxpayer dollars on ill conceived wars (I still have seen nothing showing we had an exit strategy before we invaded Iraq). Meanwhile, it was Republicans who controlled Congress and the Presidency who allowed our infrastructure to crumble until we now have bridges falling down, levees disintegrating, roads full of potholes, and regional power failures. It was the deregulationist Republicans who eviscerated all the regulations that would have prevented the Savings and loan debacle, Enron, and the current housing crisis from happening (come on, do you really think the Dems had anything to do with deregulating these industries?).
Fact: It’s the Republicans who decided political ideology is more important than competence when choosing department heads and treating every appointment as a prize to be handed out for party loyalty. It’s the Republicans who paved the way for the disaster after Katrina and the disaster that was the early aftermath of the Iraq war. It’s also why the government is so incompetent today; now government filled with political hacks who have no clue that they are supposed to do anything.

Fact: it was Republicans who took partisanship to such new levels that now Dems and Repubs cannot even sit in the same room together without ill feelings (DeLay ring any bells?). It was Republicans who turned Washington into a three ring circus impeaching a president for lying about a blow job – with the most prominent ring leader, Newt Gingrich, slamming down a mistress of his own on the side (I’m sure his WIFE approved).
Fact: it was Republicans who harbored over 100 sexual predators, deviants, and homosexuals within their own party leadership while playing Christians for suckers, taking their money and efforts to support their disgusting antics.
Fact: It’s the Republicans who support the further enrichment of the wealthiest 5% of the country while leaving the rest to fend for themselves. Normally, I would not care about this except for the fact that they have half of the rest somehow convinced that living in trailer parks and eating cheap crap for dinner every night while paying 24% interst on their CC debt is in their best interests.
Fact: it’s the Republicans who harbored PNAC – the organization that aspired to world domination – and was the driving force behind many of the most despicable acts done in the name of America in the past 7 years.

Fact: it’s the Republicans who harbor “Armageddonites” – people who want to use Americas power, both military and otherwise, to bring about armageddon in some twisted hope of forcing the second coming before its time.

So go ahead and vote Republican – again. Let’s see if 4 more years of greed, power mad, partisanship, sexual predations, deregulatory incompetence, fiscal irresponsibility, ideological deragnement, moral depravity, and ethical nihilism, does to this country.

Make no mistake: America is the GREATEST nation on Earth, PERIOD. But America needs a good purging – there’s far too many blood sucking parasites trying to corrupt the Constitution for their own personal gain. Quite frankly, I think we should have a second civil war – liberals against the conservatives – so we can end this crap once and for all. Only when there’s no more Republicans can we rebuild America and reclaim our former glory and our former prestige in the world.

Oct 25, 2008 - 3:11 am 182. Kristokoff:

You mean rich republicans and democrats. Wallstreet and business are full of democrats as well. It seems power, corruption and greed are equal opportunists.
If the people who destroyed our jobs are truly greedy, they would not be laying off thousands of workers unless they had to, because of the financial crisis or an economic downturn. They would lose money. Without workers there wouldn’t be any business. Without business there wouldn’t be any workers. One cannot exist without the other. Crisis and scandals happen because people ignore fraud and corruption and/or government does something to take the accountability out of the system, causing even more fraud and corruption. Your rich power-over-worker theory doesn’t jive with real economics nor does Obama’s tax plan for that matter. The higher taxes on business, capital gains, and on the $250,000 and up and the effect of the higher taxes slowing the economy even more, would cause “middle-class and below” workers to make less and lose jobs. What good is a tax cut if you lose your job? They would also have less opportunity to become the “rich” Dem or Rep. Small businesses are the job creators during a recession, they are the engine that will get us out of the recession and those with 10 or more employees would be hit hard with taxes. Like I said the proof of all this is out there if you choose to see it.
I hope no one is ever convicted without proof. Do you have proof that someone is accusing because of bias? Or are you accusing them out of bias as well? Fraud should not be ignored because of bias either. It is disheartening when so many people look the other way because of bias. It is just one more way we are undermining the election process. Come on these are politicians we are talking about. They all are high-risk for fraud and corruption, especially with this much money and so much power within their reach. If there ends up being no evidence or an investigation proves no fraud than of course the fraud allegations should cease.
http://kristokoff.blogspot.com/

Oct 25, 2008 - 5:08 am 183. Dodgeblogium » Obama the socialist…:

[...] that Obama would never get a security clearance. More on the Obama campaigns record of fraud over at PJM and Goldberg goes on about the Racey Content of the [...]

Oct 25, 2008 - 6:03 am 184. Ed Wallis:

This article is CR*P propaganda.

Its title is “Obama’s Fundraising FRAUD”,
yet the first sentence is “John McCain has a problem,” and
spends the first “page” with McCain’s campaign finance “reform.”

ONLY ON PAGE 2 DOES THE READER LEARN THE SLIGHTEST OF OBAMA’S FRAUDULENT
disabling of online credit card checks, and then
only in passing through references to other websites.

SHEESH.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT “SOFT MONEY,” Mr. Douglas…

…THIS IS ABOUT WILFULLY RIGGING AN ELECTION ON FOREIGN AND OTHER ILLEGAL FUNDING.

*** McCAIN/PALIN ‘08!!! ***

Oct 25, 2008 - 6:31 am 185. katablog.com:

#139

All he said was that wealth was supposed to be distributed among the middle class people and not among the rich ones.What is bad about that????

uh, could it be because they didn’t earn it? What gives YOU the right to someone else’s hard earned money? And if you believe it’s the “middle class” that Obama is going to give hand outs to – think again. It’s those that don’t work and don’t pay.

Oct 25, 2008 - 6:31 am 186. FlyOver:

Seems like when the Dems have a decent candidate, Republicans are everywhere to keep them from getting in. Now when there is somebody seriously scary as a Dem candidate, where ARE all the Republicans!! I feel like I’m tied to the railroad tracks and train Obama is hurtling down the tracks toward me–faster, faster….

Oct 25, 2008 - 6:42 am 187. Interesting facts & notions | The Anchoress:

[...] is fraud on legs. If he gets elected, and the house increases its left-hold, we’re not going to recognise this [...]

Oct 25, 2008 - 7:50 am 188. Debbie:

Excellent article. Think about it … the kool-aid drinkers will be ruling in the White House, Congress, we’re doomed. And what if it turns out that he was born in Kenya? Nine lawsuits already trying to get the birth certificate produced.

Oct 25, 2008 - 9:57 am 189. Anna:

MAKE CALLS FOR MC CAIN IN SWING STATES! THIS YEAR IT IS NOT ENOUGH SIMPLY TO VOTE! TAKE ACTION AND MAKE CALLS EVERY DAY UNTIL ELECTION DAY! DON’T WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT FOR YOU!

Oct 25, 2008 - 10:05 am 190. Granny from South Dakota:

Hey you smart young guys I’m enjoying your comments. I’ve got a couple myself.
For instance, you who think socialism sounds good, if you want a bigger piece of the pie, kiss the cook. Tieing her up or killing her off (a la Karl Marx) will only work for a short time. Remember the empty shelves of communist Russia.
Let’s go deeper. We got some civil rights after two hard wars. the Revolutionary one and the famous Civil one, now forgotten. Then came the 60’s and more rights. but basic rights begin at least at birth. if not before. The tall lithe stripper in the dark Club has voted 3 or 4 times to let babies die if they survive abortion. Live people who just need a bottle and a change. So, who believes in civil rights?

Oct 25, 2008 - 10:20 am 191. David F.:

Socialism and Communism are not the same thing, will you morons look up the difference? We have in place, many socialist institutions. I have cited numerous above. Hey, Dummy from North Dakota, AARP supports the largest socialist welfare program in the US, it’s called SOCIAL SECURITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Communism is not a form of government, it is an economic system.

I have not advocated communism or socialism.

We do not have a free market economy, one big example of this is a 700 billion stipend to Paulson to dole out to failed businesses. This is what is occuring right now.

The US has a plutocratic oligargic Republic. We are a nation ruled by a small group of wealthy people that have access to inherited wealth, social circles and education that the people get duped into electing into office.

China and Russia never had a real communist revolution. The Communist Manifesto clearly states that a real revolution is subtle and takes generations to occur. The concessions by the Bourgesis to the proletariat eventually lead to communism. You know, things like: welfare, food stamps, social security, unemployment, public housing, and 700 billion bank buyouts. China and Russia, skipped a step. They tried to go from an agrian, feudalistic, aristocracies to Communism. Well, as stated b4, communism is not a governmental system. Both countries adopted a militaristic oligarchy, rule of the few over the many with military force. They claimed to have communist economies. They couldn’t have. You can’t skip the step of Capitalism,Imperialism and Industrialization and then go to communism. It doesn’t work that way. B4 you even go to communism, you have to go to socialism. (Remember, dummies, it’s not the same thing as communism.)

Singapore Boy,
Read 2 books and tell me if Singapore has no natural resources: “How to make War” and “How to stop War”, by James F. Dunnigan. He use to lecture for the Dpt. of defense. Singapore has the greatest natural resource in the world, access to one of the biggest trade routes with natual harbours. Moreover, you left out the 2nd part of what I said. No imperilistic fascists have been raping their country since 1965. They have been recieving aid and help in greater quantities in exchange for naval bases. Yeah, it’s a small country, but ships still dock there. Let’s have a broader view of History, OK. Let me just agree with you and your Idea. One country that was already urban,meaning less infrastructure to develop, received a preponderence of foreign aid, has the most important natural resources and is just the size of one city,meaning it took less time to develop than let’s say, hmmm, Nigeria which has 1000 times the land area and 100 times the pop. So you think there is a time warp where work can be completed in singapore at the same rate as Nigeria, even though Nigeria has more people and space to develop. There are cities the size of singapore throughout the 3rd world that are developed and weathly, not the whole country, ding dong. You know, ignoring other points and focusing on the points you want sounds like a republican tactic. Just like this swift boat article.

Oct 25, 2008 - 12:13 pm 192. Tom the Redhunter:

If the situation with funding was reversed, the media would be saying that it was “an obscene attempt to buy the White House”

But since it’s Obama raising the money, it’s ignored or treated as “the voice of the people”

Oct 25, 2008 - 12:19 pm 193. David F.:

No more swift-boating! We don’t believe you. Dee Snyder said it best, “We’re not gonna take it anymore!”

Oct 25, 2008 - 12:21 pm 194. David F.:

Myth buster,

I forgot about you. I never said soldiers didn’t earn their pay. If you are a soldier right now, you are payed by tax dollars. Tax dollars come from tax-payers, meaning you, me and everyone else. The US army was developed to defend the US. That sounds like the Public good. It’s a government institution. It’s funded by public money.

Socialism is a construct wherein the public good is served by an institution funded by public money.

I am trying spell this out as simple as possible and I hope I am not using words that are unintelligable for you, because you are slow of mind.

Oct 25, 2008 - 12:29 pm 195. Hard Right:

The staggering hypocrisy and projection on the part of the mentally ill leftards posting here is pathetic.
You screamed vote suppression in the previous election when there was none.
Your dem president invaded a sovereign country with NO approval from Congress or the U.N.
Your party is the one engaging is massive registration and vote fraud.
The dems are engaging in vote suppression.
You and your kind are trying to suppress freedom of speech and other parts of the Constitution.
Hell, you even have to pretend you are that which you are not–adults, a Republican, and Marine. To the phony Marine, it’s spelled CORPS sh*thead. A real Marine would know that.
If any of you leftards had taken your meds you’d know the election hasn’t happened and it’s not over yet.
One last thing, us “Rethuglicans” have all the guns. So remember that before you threaten us with “payback” or think you’ll take them from us.

Oct 25, 2008 - 12:32 pm 196. David F.:

Look,
Red the Tomhunter, is every dollar Obama has brought in, illegal? Tommy, Republicans have recieved more money from big business than the democrats for the past 30 years. Global Corporations do not represent the people, corporations represent corporations; the people represent the people. So your problem is with the voter donating to election campaigns? And, you are trying to say all of Obama’s money is illegal. In this article it says there are republicans who knowingly decieved the website and freely gave the democrats money. So, even when republicans think they are in the right, you still break the law. That’s called credit card fraud, buddy.

Oct 25, 2008 - 12:53 pm 197. Kristokoff:

While I sincerely hope that Sen. McCain wins the election (and am among those who believe he can win despite possible fraud), there’s so much nonsense being written and spoken about him that I wonder if our electorate is smart enough to see through it all.

No, McCain is neither Saint nor Devil. He is just an ordinary man in most respects, but happens to be a war hero who suffered much for his country, more intelligent than average, but yet not as condescending as some college elites, more committed to helping his fellow citizens and the rest of the world get along than others. Despite having linked up with people who didn’t have the best campaign strategy, even though he has many years in congress, even though he frustrated conservatives by reaching out to Democrats who would just as easily turn on him, even though he has a very normal name and even though he is an old white guy — this solid citizen might actually become our President. If he manages to win…Amazing…Almost unbelievable. The fact that Obama may make it is an example to all, despite the fact that some of us were taught by our civil leaders, preachers, teachers and community organizers that we didn’t have the chances other Americans have, even if you worked and studied hard and if you cared enough about your nation and its citizens.

We’ve had many, many years of hateful governance by the Democrat party, that bears almost no resemblance to its own antecedents and values. In response to a Democrat-leaning friend who was telling me how afraid he was of a McCain presidency, I said what I will say here — Many have had to suffer and endure the horrors of Carter and we are still suffering the consequences of many Clinton administration policies and many democrat controlled congressional regulations and policies. If McCain wins, suck it up and get ready for economic opportunity for all. I promise you it won’t be nearly as hard to take for either American citizens or the world community as what we’ve had to endure.

{I don’t mean any disrespect to the person whom the original post belongs to. It’s just fascinating how many posts could be from either side of the political spectrum.}

Oct 25, 2008 - 12:56 pm 198. David F.:

Hard-on,hand ball or whatever,

Read my post at #160 and shut-up about hypocrisy.

ACORN is self-policing and self-reporting. Any info the John Boehner (haha Boehner)is trying to use, came from ACORN. McCain used them in 2000 running against Adolf Bush.

You actually have the nerve to accuse the left of censorship. What do think the Patriot Act is?

Finally, LOL, “Remember, us Rethuglicans have all the guns.” Who’s on meds? I hope the Patriot Act is in effect right now, and government agencies please investigate hard-on because he just violated it with a veiled threat online.

Oct 25, 2008 - 1:02 pm 199. David F.:

Hey hard right,

We can use your laws against you can’t we? I hope they are watching you right now. Investigate Hard right, he has guns and isn’t afraid to use them, he said so him self. He also knows about meds, apparently because he is off them. Sounds like a dangerous, unstable individual to me. I love it when right-wingers get screwed by the policies they support.

Boehner, Haha

Oct 25, 2008 - 1:07 pm 200. David F.:

Kristkoff,

The hardships you speak of from the left, what are they? Specifically!

You mean the Clinton administration that left Bush a surplus that was squandered in 1 year. The same Clinton administration that brought us out of the recession made buy the Reagan-Bush Era of borrow-spending to beat the communists. The same clintons the wanted universal healthcare to make sure that all Americans could be healthy that was shot down by the republican controlled congress at the end. The same clintons the had lowered unemployment and homelessness, which is now at record highs. I don’t recall the Clintons suffering from Alzeimers. It seems if you are president and suffer from alzeimers, you should step down for the good of the nation. What are horrors? Young men and innocent civilians dying for a president’s lies about yellow cake and aluminum tubes when his CIA chief father is the one who gave Hussein the weapons of mass destruction in the form of chemical and biological weapons.

What are the horrors that Carter perpetrated? Why do you use the word horrors? Your flowery speak might impress your young republican group, but I have 8 years of college under my belt with 2 degrees. When you don’t back up a single accusation with facts, it’s called RHETORIC.

Oct 25, 2008 - 1:35 pm 201. David F.:

Kristokoff,

I hope you are a poetry major, because you don’t know jack about foreign affairs, or US history.

Oct 25, 2008 - 1:39 pm 202. ddavid:

As an independent who has voted 80% of the time Republican, I am amazed at the “slander” and “Swift Boating” attempt going on against Obama. I hope for the public sake and their own welfare they will take the initiative to do their own research, rather than swallowing deceit. Go to governmental web sites and Think Tank web sites, or watch C-Span instead Fox News. If you want truth you must work for it. Only truth will return prosperity to the middle class.

BTW: Fox News isn’t news at all, its a 1 sided political bought machine.

Oct 25, 2008 - 1:56 pm 203. Paul:

I just confirmed this on my own acct.
WOW. As a commentator said on gatewaypundit, Stalin himself might have said: “A $150 million election fraud is a statistic. A $150,000 temporary wardrobe is a tragedy.”

-Paul
http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com

Oct 25, 2008 - 4:14 pm 204. nick:

donations via credit card ARE alltraceable

why are you such morons?

Oct 25, 2008 - 4:24 pm 205. thommacnamara:

Those who think that George W. Bush has been a great president object to the way that the so-called Republican John McCain has treated George W. Bush, a great president, a true conservative, and a great man.

In this interview with the Washington Times, a conservative newspaper, McCain treats Bush worse than Obama has. See http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/23/mccain-lambastes-bush-years/

In this article, McCain says this of Bush:

“Sen. John McCain on Wednesday blasted President Bush for building a mountain of debt for future generations, failing to pay for expanding Medicare and abusing executive powers, leveling his strongest criticism to date of an administration whose unpopularity may be dragging the Republican Party to the brink of a massive electoral defeat.

“We just let things get completely out of hand,” he said of his own party’s rule in the past eight years.

And he said:

“He rejected Mr. Bush’s use of issuing “signing statements” when he signs bills into law, in which the president has suggested that he would ignore elements of the bills, labeling them potentially unconstitutional.

“I would veto the bills or say, ‘Look, I don’t like it but I’ll obey the law that’s passed by Congress and signed by the president.’ I think the signing statements was not a correct implementation of the power of the executive. I think it was overstepping,” he said.

And Mr. McCain emphatically rejected Mr. Bush’s claims of executive privilege, often used to shield the White House from scrutiny.”

WE who believe that all these things were good and that Bush has the right under the constitution to executive privilege object to McCain’s treatment of a good and noble president.

If Obama had said this we conservatives would rally to Bush’s support. But now that McCain has said it we have to keep quiet. We have to pretend that the policies and leaders of the last eight years were terrible, when they have been wonderful.

McCain has undermined everything we stand for. How can we vote for him? Of course, we should not vote for Obama. But why should we vote for McCain? He has no principles. He’s not a Republican.

Vote for Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party’s candidate for president. I suppose he does not like President Bush much either, but that is because Bob Barr thinks that Bush has not been conservative enough.

Sad situation not to vote for a Republican. But how can we vote for McCain after he has turned his back on his party and his good president.

Oct 25, 2008 - 4:28 pm 206. David F.:

Thom,

I’ve always wanted to say this to a right-winger. If you don’t like it, then leave the country. Man that felt good. In fact, if all you right wingers don’t like it, then leave. I can’t wait until Obama is President. Then the good people can say, if you don’t like it, then leave. I love to use right-wing propaganda against the people that advocate it.

Oct 25, 2008 - 5:24 pm 207. Pat J:

Thommacnamara,

You’re joking right? Bush is the worst U.S. president in history! I actually applaud McCain for some of his stances against Bush. But now he’s saying Obama will be Bush’s third term? He’s an idiot.

Hi Dave.

Oct 25, 2008 - 5:57 pm 208. AdrianS:

From: WND’s Corsi probing Obama’s ‘Kenyan birth’
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78954

“Corsi reported that when he was in Kenya he was told that Obama actually was born not in Honolulu but in Mombosa, on the Kenyan coast. He also said he was told by government officials there that his records were sealed and nothing could be released.”

Why would the government SEAL Obama’s birth records if he was not born in Kenya? Me smells a RAT.

Elect John McCain and Sarah Palin and let’s get back to solving our issues WITHOUT communism and grow our country without socialism.

Reject Barack Hussein Obama!

http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=73

Oct 25, 2008 - 7:56 pm 209. nick:

adirans – how is it someone as stupid as you has a computer?

did little green men visit you?

do you know what SNOPES is ?
or factcheck?

Oct 25, 2008 - 11:06 pm 210. TruthHurts:

“It turns out that half of Obama’s haul in 2008 has come in contributions of $200 dollars or less. These small donations do not require public disclosure under FEC guidelines, and the Obama campaign refuses to make public its list of contributors.” —— Now let’s see…The Obama campaign has a good-as-gold email list with millions of names…The law states that these names do not have to be publicized. THE PEOPLE WHO DONATED SMALL AMOUNTS ASSUME THAT THEY WON’T HAVE THEIR NAMES BLASTED….. Of course the GOP conspiracy-theorists (Powerline, Hot Air,etc)want the campaign to publicize this list so they can expose fake donors. Gee, do you think that Joe the Plumber would have positioned himself as “undecided” if he knew that McCain’s new tactic would blow his cover on that $100 donation that he made????….The sad part is that the detractors won’t accept that the guy’s been interviewing for POTUS over the last 18 months and enough voters are comfortable with who he is…The “unvetted” Obama has had to deal with the Madrassa Smear, Muslim Smear, Terrorist by association Smear, Communist by association Smear, Militant Wife Smear, the Ayers-wrote-his-book Smear, the Fake Birth Certificate Smear, the New Party Smear and whatever brilliant Smears that you’re sure to cook up in the next 10 days….To this day, the detractors demand to know what happened during the “two years at Columbia” as if this will uncover the evil that they swear that this guy represents. This would be 2 years when the guy was 19-21 years old…What details would ANY college student have during a time that was probably spent trying to get laid and trying to sneak into Happy Hour?..As you guys go through this exercise, it smacks of desperation as the polls inch further away…No matter, you’ll blame McCain and the MSM and not spend one solidary minute thinking about how bankrupt and tired your ideas and approaches are when the country’s looking for something beyond smearing your way to victory. This would be during a Credit Crisis, pending Recession and current incompetence in the Whitehouse. Have at it gang. Let’s get him with the “I just used a fake name to give $10.00 and it went through” game..Is it known that the error will not be captured and the money returned? OF COURSE NOT!…But we’ll continue to mine for gold in an Ocean..It says it right here in the Lee Atwater “How to beat the Liberals” handbook.

Oct 25, 2008 - 11:35 pm 211. nick:

FEC has access to every name and money source.

Obama has nothing to hide.

Oct 26, 2008 - 12:27 am 212. Stogie:

A lot of liberal ignorance and rationalization here. If Obama doesn’t have to release the names of those who contribute $200 or less, tell me libbies:
1. How is he going to know who has contributed $200 or less (or more) without properly accounting for the names and without security safeguards over fictitious name donors?
2. Since foreign donations are illegal, how is he going to keep track of those without any accounting or safeguards?

The truth is, he’s not going to account for donations properly because, as a supporter of ACORN, his philosophy is all about fraud and getting elected any way he can.

David F, you are an embarrassment to your cause. Barack Obama is a socialist par excellence, and if you work for a living get ready to take in the shorts.

Oct 26, 2008 - 9:50 am 213. nick:

it doesnt matter Obam ais up +7

dont need fat lady to sing.

my job is done jousting with you morons

nwerle at yahoo

Oct 26, 2008 - 9:57 am 214. Believer:

No one should go to the polls without first reading an article by James Simpson.

‘yahoo’ — Obama Manufactured Crisis

It’s at americanthinker.com on 9/28.

Oct 26, 2008 - 12:32 pm 215. hp:

“Stand with Barack Obama and you will be honored you for your work, sacrifice, dedication and devotion on behalf of all oppressed peoples.

Stand with Barack Obama and you will be honored and celebrated and remembered in song and praise and by your children.”

holy ****. this creep anyone else out?

describing the obama campaign as a “cult” absolutely is not funny anymore.

Oct 26, 2008 - 12:41 pm 216. hp:

has it occurred to ANYONE to keep an eye on 419 scams?

Oct 26, 2008 - 12:43 pm 217. David F.:

Stogie,

You are either an idiot or can’t read. What do you think a 700billion bailout buy Paulson and Bush is? What do think Socialism and communism are? I have never held a dialogue with so many stupid people b4.

LOOK UP THE TWO WORDS IN WIKIPEDIA DUMMIES!!!!!

If you don’t think we have encorporated socialism into our government, then you either can’t read or are stupid!

Oct 26, 2008 - 2:33 pm 218. David F.:

Stogie,

What do you think Social Security, Police, firemen, park districts, forest preserves, The FDA, and roads are? You couldn’t possibly be that stupid? There is no way, your right winger butt could be that stupid, to be against things you use everyday? Please tell me, you just didn’t understand what socialism is, you have a stigmatism which keeps you from properly reading, or a learning disability. Otherwise, the only answer you can give is that you are denying that the United States uses socialism right now with King George the II. If you are saying that, then you are a moron.

Oct 26, 2008 - 2:40 pm 219. David F.:

Stoogie,

You do know that McCain, used ACORN to help battle his own party in the 2000 republican primaries. McCain wasn’t in charge of them, they are self-policing and self-reporting. Any info the Boehner is using has been given to him by ACORN. Moreover, ACORN has pressed charges against the perpertrators themselves. You apparently don’t listen or watch any news unless it comes from the racist,felon: Rush Limbaugh.

Oct 26, 2008 - 2:46 pm 220. David F.:

One last thing, If you don’t like it, then leave the country. Man I love saying that to right-wing bozos!

Oct 26, 2008 - 2:48 pm 221. Believer:

nick – you keep promising us your work is done — it seems your word is as good as your Dear Leader

Oct 26, 2008 - 2:55 pm 222. venividivici:

We do not have a free market economy, one big example of this is a 700 billion stipend to Paulson to dole out to failed businesses. This is what is occuring right now.

This statement is just ignorant. Paulson is planning to purchase assets or equity, to be sold later at hopefully a higher price, in order to enable banks to increase the amount of lending they can do now. Is this strictly speaking, “free market” type stuff, no, but it is arguably in the public interest and it certainly isn’t “doling out” anything, since claims on future cash flows are being made, whereas “doling out” is something one does without making any claim to future cash flows.

The US has a plutocratic oligargic Republic. We are a nation ruled by a small group of wealthy people that have access to inherited wealth, social circles and education that the people get duped into electing into office.

I wish that what you say were true. All of the most intelligent and worldly people I’ve met in life have had a modicum or wealth, whereas the ranters and conspiracy theorists I’ve met (which is where I’d classify you, to be frank) have been poor to lower-middle class. I know whose company I prefer and who I would trust to make wiser decisions about long-term policies for the good of the country.

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Oct 26, 2008 - 3:38 pm 224. David F.:

vinnie-bob-a-reno,

I don’t know where you have been recently, apparently under a rock. Even Ayn Rand’s scummy little cohort, Greenspan, has come out and said this government intervention has violated his ideas of a free-market economy and a laissez faire economic system doesn’t work without government intervention. Greenspan himself has said this is socialism. He has even questioned the last 40 years of his work. If Greenspan is saying that, then it must be true. Isn’t he some sort of pagan guru to you people? What do you call 2 tax rebates by King George the II? Did you miss the latest story on the AIG excecutives spending part of their golden parachutes to celebrate their new found government funded wealth at a business get-away spa?

What conspiracies have I spoken about? Please name them. So, Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Jackson’s lower class upbringing would have diqualified them from leadership positions in your point of view. I guess making up stories about yellow cake uranium, aluminum tubes and weapons of mass destruction isn’t a conspriracy? The guy that made these up, was he rich? Could you refresh my memory? Of everyone who has responded to me, yours is the worst. Please respond again so I can chop you up some more.

Oct 26, 2008 - 4:33 pm 225. Kristokoff:

A lot of the chaff can be weeded out by determining those that are filled with hate and follow the deceiver Saul Alinksky’s “rules for radicals”. These rules that guide them can be used to determine if someone is using these tactics, if so, you know they are not truthful and you can move on to someone who genuinely wishes to discuss these issues and ideas. The more they comment the easier it is to determine. Caution: Because of who this book is dedicated to, I suggest one become familiar with the tactics only, do not read the book.

It appears this and a lot of misinformation is being taught in our schools and universities and sadly it is destroying the minds and lives of many of our youth.

If you are looking for answers on the blogosphere, while there are facts posted, don’t just believe something, especially a comment, until you study and research the issue for yourself to determine if it is indeed fact. You may eventually find a source that is fact-based. Some blogs are but still question everything. It is a good way to get information that is hidden by the main-stream media, which is quickly becoming propaganda. Sometimes when something is exposed here it is eventually picked up by someone in the main-stream media. It is a check that is slowly exposing the MSM and will someday make them honest and upfront about their bias. The day is fast approaching when they will have to change or cease to exist. There are others that are already taking their place. Of course, legislation has already been proposed that will be the first step to shut down any dissention and prop up the MSM. But the will of the people will prevail.

BTW just because the word fact is next to a statement does not make it fact, it is just a word. Posted references would be better but it is best to research it yourself.

Many win only in their own minds, but to win in the minds of many is true success.

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Oct 27, 2008 - 4:07 am 227. Ed Wallis:

If you can’t beat ‘em by fraud,
beat ‘em by trashing the RULEBOOK.

From
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/26/obama-in-2001-how-to-b ring-about-redistributive-change/

“Obama in 2001: How to bring about ‘redistributive change’ ”

EXCERPT:

Obama: “If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court. I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. IT DIDN’T BREAK FREE FROM THE ESSENTIAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WERE PLACED BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS IN THE CONSTITUTION…”. (emphasis mine)

So, FORGET ABOUT “voter registration fraud.”

OBAMA WILL DEFRAUD THE CONSTITUTION.

*** McCAIN / PALIN ‘08!!! ***

Oct 27, 2008 - 4:15 am 228. David F.:

Ed,

Isn’t the Patriot Act a formal defrauding of our civil rights? Hasn’t the Bush adm. defrauded the American People with the lies expounded to invade Iraq?

What is the problem with adujusting the tax system so persons with more income have to pay a slightly higher percentage to maintain and improve the country’s infrastructure? Obama is not going to take your homes, he is going to tax the wealthy 1 or 2 percentage points higher, so the base of the economic pyramid has more money to spend on the wealthy’s products and services. Meanwhile, that small percentage is actually more the what we would get if you tried to squeeze the money out of the working-class. That money can then be turned into roads, upgrading the postal system, which increase the flow of products and trade, renewable energy resources, and small business loans. These are actual policies that Obama has. Not giving tax-breaks and $700 billion welfare checks to the wealthy, who do not spend their money on building the infrastructure, but whoard their wealth in Cayman offshore accounts and Swiss bank accounts to hide their assets from being taxed. Democrats aren’t against making money are achieving wealth, they want to open up the playing field so families don’t control the American dream for centuries. Do you really think that there is a money making gene that is passed along from generation to generation? Or, possibly that wealth inheretited from one generation to the next provides that individual or group of siblings an unfair advantage in the realm of education, health, safety and investment capital as well as a pre-made business to continue to run in their parent’s demise. You people need to read Andrew Carnegie’s Autobiography. Carnegie would be disgusted with the idea that wealth isn’t spread around as well as not earned. There is no way Carnegie could have founded US Steel in this busines climate, because today there are to many constraints put on the small businessman by the right-wingers. We’ll never see the next Carnegie unless we give the working class a chance.

Oct 27, 2008 - 5:04 am 229. venividivici:

Davey-Boy,

Funny, Greenspan’s “flaw” has been pointed out by real libertarians for nearly a decade. That flaw being that he thought monetary policy could eliminate booms and busts from the natural economic cycles. Nowhere in that analysis does your favored method of government intervention come up. Even if Greenspan were some kind of “pagan guru”, which he certainly isn’t, I would suppose that I’d throw the question back to you, which is who’s the better pagan guru, Greenspan or your boy Karl Marx? Greenspan’s responsible for a few hundred thousand home foreclosures, Marx’s responsible for a 100 million deaths, and counting?

That AIG “party”, while in poor taste, was planned months before their collapse and most of the attendees were from parts of the company that had nothing to do with AIG’s downfall. But, why bother with trifling details like lines of responsibility within business units and corporate structure when there’s demagoguing to do, right?

As for Bush’s wealth, sure, he is wealthy and I didn’t say that all rich people share equally in the wisdom that comes from the kind of worldly experience it takes to build up wealth in a world where risks of all kinds and setbacks always threaten a man trying to do so. Nor would Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Jackson be exempt from partaking in that same wisdom, because clearly they had wealth of a different sort.

I put you more in the “ranter” class than the “conspiracy theorist” class, but you did mention something about “imperialists” attacking some economy and that was a bit more conspiratorial. I can’t be bothered to check the entire thread for the comment exactly.

As far as being the “worst person who responded” to your rants, I can only say I’m flattered beyond words.

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Oct 27, 2008 - 6:29 am 231. venividivici:

Davey-boy,

What is the problem with adujusting the tax system so persons with more income have to pay a slightly higher percentage to maintain and improve the country’s infrastructure?

I’m sure you meant to say, “what is the problem with adjusting the tax system for the one hundreth time so persons with more income have to pay a slightly higher percentage than the 60% of income taxes the top 1% already pays because Congress can’t control itself when it comes to spending?

That must have been what you meant to say, because those are the facts and you and your two college degrees are all about facts, right?

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Oct 27, 2008 - 1:24 pm 233. Pat J:

What is the problem with adujusting the tax system so persons with more income have to pay a slightly higher percentage to maintain and improve the country’s infrastructure?

Answer? Absolutely nothing. It’s about time the super rich started investing in what’s best for this country instead of wallowing in their greedy filth like a bunch of Capitalist pigs.

Oct 27, 2008 - 1:31 pm 234. venividivici:

Answer? Absolutely nothing. It’s about time the super rich started investing in what’s best for this country instead of wallowing in their greedy filth like a bunch of Capitalist pigs.

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about how the rich allocate their capital. Do you think they really light cigars with their $100 bills? Keep them in their mattresses?

No, they invest it in the stock market and corporate bonds and municipal bonds and so on and so on and so on, so that people like you, without a clue, can have jobs.

Jeeeeeesus, you people are stupid.

Oct 27, 2008 - 4:52 pm 235. David F.:

Well, if the top 1% pays 60%, it’s because they make more money, so even under a flat percentage tax across all economic demographics would mean more money coming in from people that have more wealth. What you are failing to see is that a 3% increase on the middle-class would crush them, whereas a 3% increase on the top 1% would mean they couldn’t go on government funded parties. It’s simple math; that’s not one of my degrees and apparently not one of yours.

Now, for your pagan guru, John Galt or Greenspan or whatever, Greenspan’s irresponsible attitudes that have been adopted by big business, our current fascist regime and many other right governments have lead to the deaths of millions. Hey, if you want a free-market economy here, it means deposing Salvadore Allende in Chile and replacing him with Pinochet, Hurray! free market economy. Why do you put flaw in quotation marks? I never said his system didn’t work years ago, I said he came out recently and admitted it;decried the last 40 years of his work. Critics didn’t say this, HE DID!!!! He has stated a free-market economy can never work. Are you friggin’ stupid? Atlas Shrugged more like Atlas Puked.

So, let me get this strait, you plan a party and go bankrupt, but get taxpayer money, so then continue to throw a party with taxpayer money. Whatever you need to justify yourself, bud.

Then ofcourse there was your ridiculous comments on wealth and power. Well, thank you for conceding that. It doesn’t take wordly experience to build wealth, If you are John McCain you can marry it. It only takes greed to build wealth. That was a poorly thought out comment of yours. If I use the word imperialism, I am a conspiracy theorist? that is interesting logic. Please site where I have used any conspiracy theories? Please, name them.

One last thing, the people will jail all the republican criminals one at a time, starting with today’s big loser, TED STEVENS, come on down. Tell him what he’s won: 7 felony counts! As for ranting, you ain’t seen nothin yet. I came, I saw, I kicked your ass.

Oct 27, 2008 - 4:57 pm 236. Ed Wallis:

“David F”,

Neither Carnegie nor Bill Gates would have become what they became under ZerObama’s socialist policies.

(No, that’s hardly a hypothetical; see contemporary Germany for a ruined culture and economy.)

Your premise does not convince me in the least.

Oct 27, 2008 - 5:12 pm 237. David F.:

How would Bill gates and Carnegie not be successful under Obama’s policies? I just want you to explain what you mean. Do not even try to use some trickle-down economic theory, because trickle-down economics doesn’t work as we have seen with it’s failure under Reagan, King Bush I and it’s demise under King Bush II. As well as it’s chief advocate calling the last 40 years of his work pointless.

Ed, you made a bold statement. Explain how Obama, who is against sending jobs oversees and is for giving tax-cuts and loans to small business(not people). Please explain how these policies are going to prohibit the next moguls?

What ruined Germany are you speaking of? How is contemporary Germany ruined? Atleast anymore ruined than the rest of the world’s economy as dictated by the failure the free-market economy. Do you people not watch the news? Now the big three auto manufacturers are asking for taxpayer money to subsidize their businesses.

At this point I am beginning to wonder if I am conversing with form letters, or just one person who keeps changing their screen name. I can’t believe so many people and so stupid.

Oct 27, 2008 - 6:17 pm 238. Karl Marx:

The Proletariat will overcome as they always have. Everywhere the sickle and hammer fly, there has been freedom for the working class.

Oct 27, 2008 - 6:35 pm 239. Lenin:

The bourgesis will drown in their own blood in the streets for the glorious revolution! People everywhere will share everything! Korea, Cuba, Vietnam and China are just some of our shining examples!

Oct 27, 2008 - 6:38 pm 240. Joe the plumber:

I’m just trying to earn a buck here, why you liberal scumbags have to take my money and give it to welfare?

Oct 27, 2008 - 6:40 pm 241. David F.:

Good bye.

Oct 27, 2008 - 6:40 pm 242. venividivici:

Davey-boy,

What you are failing to see is that a 3% increase on the middle-class would crush them, whereas a 3% increase on the top 1% would mean they couldn’t go on government funded parties. It’s simple math; that’s not one of my degrees and apparently not one of yours.

Here’s some even simpler math: Less spending = less need for tax revenue. Flat tax = everyone pays the same percentage of income = more conducive to maintaining the social contract. The reason I hate you and your type so much is because you take and take and take and it means less for me and my family without any tangible corresponding benefit. Can you wrap your pea-brain around that?

And, what if the McDonald’s you work at couldn’t have its annual Christmas party because someone at headquarters had sent out tainted beef that caused an outbreak of e.coli at a completely different McDonald’s. Wouldn’t you be angry that you didn’t get your free McFlurry with sprinkles that year?

I never said his system didn’t work years ago, I said he came out recently and admitted it;decried the last 40 years of his work. Critics didn’t say this, HE DID!!!! He has stated a free-market economy can never work.

Unless you assume that Greenspan always did what he said his premises dictated, he has no way of knowing if a free-market economy can “work” or not. Nor have you defined “work”. There are inherent fluctuations in free-market economies, including troughs like the one we are entering now. Only a child-like mind such as yours appears to be would believe otherwise. This fluctuation is inherent in any system that is subject to the interaction of millions and millions of variables. Greenspan may very well be suffering from delusions that his tenure as Fed chairman saw the enactment of only free-market policies, although that would be odd, since there were other players impacting policy at the time, on the fiscal, tax and regulatory sides. Also, I don’t have any reason to be defending Alan Greenspan to begin with. It’s not as if I think he’s some sort of infallible being, much as you’d like to attribute that view to me. There are, as I mentioned, people with much more commitment to free-market principles (or at least equal to the commitment Greenspan makes verbally) who believed his policies to be misguided, on the basis of those very free-market principles (in dumb-dumb terms you’ll understand, he made money too cheap and didn’t let it rise to its free-market price). And again, no one is saying that free markets provide unbroken strings of growth as far as the eye can see, but that over time they provide more growth than any other type of system. I refuse to defend the straw man free market system you’ve constructed in your own mind.

So, I’d rephrase your tag line to “you came, you saw, you failed to understand anything I said” and instead made it all about Greenspan for some unfathomable reason.

It only takes greed to build wealth.

Everyone in the world is equally greedy, including you and me and your little old grandma. It takes vision and persistence to turn that into wealth. Your superficial mind looks at John McCain and sees a man who is wealthy because he married wealth? As Playboy magazine said years ago, “Never aspire to marry a rich woman, because it will be the toughest job you’ll ever have”.

If I use the word imperialism, I am a conspiracy theorist? that is interesting logic. Please site where I have used any conspiracy theories? Please, name them.

OK, you’re just an incoherent ranter, you’re not a conspiracy theorist. Happy now? Although, I do find it a bit interesting to use the word “imperialism”, when there is no stated policy of imperialism that I know of extant in the US, so clearly you are assuming that someone is hiding their motivations, which is one type of conspiracy.

Word of advice, too, is that, while I don’t have much need for lawyers in my life, I do respect the way they try to construct arguments so that a “reasonable” man would concur with their point of view. You might want to try that some time because as it is now, you’re going to be limited to conversing with lunatics because your entire writing style and internal logic is so childish as to be painful to read.

Oct 27, 2008 - 7:00 pm 243. Pat J:

Yo Venividivivisection.

You don’t even know me. I guess you think I should be greatful to the almighty rich man for giving me a job. No. I invested in me. I paid my way through graduate school. I didn’t wait for a handout from some rich fat corporate fat cat. Been there. Done that. Chances are probably neither did you. Or maybe you did. You’re probably proudly serving your corporate masters like a good little toadie you are.

The rich can do a lot better job in investing in stocks, corporate bonds, municipal bonds or what have you if they remember to invest in human beings as well. Too often people are treated like commodities or liabilities or collateral damage. We need to change that mindset.

Hopefully with Obama we will.

Oct 27, 2008 - 7:13 pm 244. David F.:

“you’re going to be limited to conversing with lunatics”

I am conversing with one right now.

Oct 27, 2008 - 9:01 pm 245. venividivici:

You’re probably proudly serving your corporate masters like a good little toadie you are.

I advise CEOs of very large companies on issues of corporate strategy. I give them the straight scoop and call them just as I see them. Would you say that makes me a toadie?

The rich can do a lot better job in investing in stocks, corporate bonds, municipal bonds or what have you if they remember to invest in human beings as well. Too often people are treated like commodities or liabilities or collateral damage.

Huh? You do realize that for a typical corporate job, the company invests in training, benefits, etc. and that the typical worker isn’t nearly productive enough to justify those costs, often for a year or more. And that is on top of someone’s salary. Of course they invest in people. What do you think, all that stuff happens for free?

And if you don’t like the corporate world, give up some material goods. No one is forcing you to have, e.g., internet access, nor does anyone care if you have a job or not. Wander the earth like the guy in Kung Fu for all I care. Because you decide you want material objects but don’t want to work for them, I’m supposed to open my wallet and say “Here ya go, Pat J! Take as much as ya need, you damn fine specimen of a human being, you!” You make less money than me and can’t afford something? Tough.

The fact of the matter is, for all intents and purposes, you are a commodity. What the hell differentiates you from everyone else? If it’s “nothing”, which I suspect, why would anyone want you over someone else, let’s call him Pat K? What in the name of ever-loving God makes you worth anything, unless you prove to me you are worth something?

I guess you think I should be greatful to the almighty rich man for giving me a job.

Be grateful or ungrateful as you see fit. I was talking about the cause of the job’s existence, not the emotional state its existence brings about in the holder of said job.

Oct 27, 2008 - 9:16 pm 246. Chris:

I’m going to see Obama get inaugurated on the 20th of january, then ill party it up with a bunch of senators at the Black Tie Gala. Viva la revolucion, bitches!

Oct 27, 2008 - 9:21 pm 247. Pat J:

I advise CEOs of very large companies on issues of corporate strategy. I give them the straight scoop and call them just as I see them. Would you say that makes me a toadie?

Nah. But I’ll bet you’re pretty good at letting them know exactly what they want to hear.

Oct 28, 2008 - 6:42 am 248. da juan:

Someone had mentioned that the U.S Postal Service is a form of socialism, yes thats right. That is why a vote for Sen.John McCain is a vote for UPS, Federal Express, and other fine privately owned companies.
A vote for b.o is “good enough for government work” mentally.
Good luck to us all

Oct 28, 2008 - 12:47 pm 249. venividivici:

Nah. But I’ll bet you’re pretty good at letting them know exactly what they want to hear.

Wow, devastating comeback. They want to hear one thing: how can I make this company better? Which is actually the only thing CEOs should care about, since business isn’t day camp.

Funny, your hero Obama’s going to be redistributing “money” (since Obama’s a Marxist, clearly, you must realize that he believes in dialectical materialism, which is about as money-obsessed a philosophy as any that’s ever existed), which is the very thing I help CEOs make. If you don’t want more money, redistributed out of the pockets of “the rich”, why vote for Obama?

The whole premise of your attitude toward what I do is undercut by the fact that you want what I help CEOs make.

Oct 28, 2008 - 4:12 pm 250. Pat J:

The whole premise of your attitude toward what I do is undercut by the fact that you want what I help CEOs make.

Good lord I’m arguing with Phil Gramm. And Obama is not a Marxist, not a Muslim, nor a terrorist, nor a redistributionalist or whatever McCain said today. He’s probably going to end up saving your job and mine. And yeah. I wouldn’t mind some of what those CEOs make. It’s only fair considering me and a lot of other people have not had any opportunity to share in the American Dream during the Bush regime.

Oct 28, 2008 - 6:40 pm 251. venividivici:

Gramm does have a Ph.D. in economics, you know, whatever his failures as a political advisor. At the time he said what he said, it is technically true that the US was not in recession.

It is almost certain that Obama’s autobiography is referring to Frank Davis, a known Communist, as his mentor.

Communism would be a strange political doctrine indeed if it did not on some level encourage mentors to teach it to their mentees. In fact, I think that alone would make it the most unique political doctrine in world history. Then, you have pretty credible evidence that Obama was a member of the New Party, a self-described socialist party.

I don’t know who you think you’re fooling with these denials, because it certainly isn’t me. Why don’t you stop bullshitting me and explain in detail just how Obama’s socialism (whether he gets to implement a full socialist program in the time he is President is immaterial, since everyone who has studied socialism knows that there are many different varieties of it, almost as many as there are socialists, including the incremental, go-slow version) won’t end up in the same place all other forms of socialism end up, stagnation and bureaucratism?

Trust me, I don’t need Obama to “save” my job.

It’s only fair considering me and a lot of other people have not had any opportunity to share in the American Dream during the Bush regime.

Yes, because the stock market didn’t hit a new high last October and home “ownership” ratios weren’t at all time highs as well. Since Bush took over I’ve more than tripled my compensation and am now part of a start-up business that has increased my potential upside another 4 to 5-fold.

By definition, 50% of people will have average or below average lives in this world. Electing Obama will only mean that the “average” will drift down as you remove incentives for excellence in wealth creation and create incentives for excellence in wealth redistribution. 50% of people will still be exactly at or below that average.

Oct 28, 2008 - 9:09 pm 252. David F.:

Pat,

Quit talking to this guy, he’s a lunatic. He pulls stats out his ass and presents them like their a solid argurment. Look above, I argue with him about allocation and he answers back with a distribution argument. He doesn’t even know what topic he’s debating anymore.

“By, definition, 50% o people will have average or below average lives in this world.”
What definition? Where do you get this stat from? Do you mean lack of food, clean water, irrigable farmland, housing, clothing, medicine, is below average? Because I have news for you, according to the United Nations, 90% of the people on this planet live below average. What can you expect from a guy who considers human beings a commodity. Vinnievidihitler, you actually consider human beings commodities. Where did you get 50% of people are below or above average? You make things up and present them as a viable support for your own callousness.
You need to tell me what the definition of socialism is in your next post or you are full of crap. What is socialism? If you think that police, firemen, ambulance service, post offices, schools and the armed forces are not socialism then you do not know what it is or you’re a liar. Vinnie, look it up on Wikipedia. Clearly, you have a computer, look up socialism. Your lover, George Bush, is a socialist by the proper definition. He expanded the role of government in education more than any other president in the last 20 years. “No kid left behind.”
Pat, this is the type of moron that supports the philosophy of supply side economics even though even a basic Econ. 101 class, government, and the media agree that consumers shape the very exitstence of a capitalist environment. Hey stupid, what do you think “consumer confidence is”? It isn’t called manufacturer’s confidence. I wonder why?
Pat, this is the same type of uniformed sheep that calls Obama a terriorist. Nevermind that the Bush family is friends with the Bin Laden family, Elder Bush put Hussein in power and armed him. King Bush the 1st gave money, weapons and training to Al-Qaeda to fight the Soviets, even though the United Nations at the time classified the group as dangerous combatants. I’ll bet dummy doesn’t know that the United Nations has no definition for terrorists and therefore has not labeled any groups as a terrorist organization.

If being a socialist means that I’m against nepotism, dishonesty and corporate control of our government, then call me a socialist. The government is for the people. Joe McCarthy is thrilled by dogs he has trained. Let’s see, in the 1930’s it was get rid of unions under the guise of get rid of anarchists and socialists. In the 50′, 60’s and 70’s it was get rid of civil rights leaders because they were communists. In the 90’s and 21st century it’s get rid of progressives because they are terrorist supporters.
Vinnie you are a few decades behind in your terminology. This will be the last time I respond to you, as you choose to ignore history and make up your own facts. Good luck living in la-la land.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:32 pm 253. David F.:

Pat,

Look up Eisnehower and how he coined the “military industrial complex” term. Then you can see that a large proportion of American industry is funded by tax-payer money, in the form of defense spending. I guess that’s not socialism or goverment control of jobs which dictate voting. I guess that’s not going on if you live in Oz.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:40 pm 254. God Help Us:

This is disturbing.

Oct 30, 2008 - 12:21 am 255. Suze:

Hey people who still have a mind, did you get a load of that poor “truth” guy? at the top of page blog? No kidding, his creepy “children of hitler” brainwash as one of Obama’s devotees did more to make the case against his messiah than pracitically anything out there on Obama’s corruption and madness, enough to get you to jump right into the front seat of the truck with Rush Limbaugh. Who needs Halloween?

Oct 31, 2008 - 3:57 pm 256. How’s This For A Double Standard? | Pirates! Man Your Women!:

[...] This site has a nice article on Obama’s questionable loot. It turns out that half of Obama’s haul in 2008 has come in contributions of $200 dollars or less. These small donations do not require public disclosure under FEC guidelines, and the Obama [spit] campaign refuses to make public its list of contributors. Obama [spit] earlier announced he’d accept public financing if the GOP nominee did the same (and then, of course, broke his pledge in June after realizing he’d far surpass previous fundraising records). So there’s a pattern. By keeping his donor list secret now, the Illinois senator has heightened speculation of financial impropriety. Not only can Obama’s inside operatives organize massive bundling operations outside the law, there are no safeguards against the new “fat cat” contributors who bundle their own cash. Hillary Clinton’s Norman Hsu scandal from late-2007 points to the kind of abuses possible under the current regime. A more serious breach of faith may be taking place right now in the Obama [spit] camp. [...]

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