Obama’s Graciousness Deficit
Jabbing at Bush? Bashing Rush Limbaugh? So much for elevating the tone in Washington.
President Obama ran his campaign on “change” and he declares now at every turn just how changey he is — on torture, the economy, the Middle East, ethics, etc.
Forget for a moment whether there is anything to the high-minded talk. That’s his theme and ticket to wielding political power.
The unfortunate result of this is that he is now given to jab continually at his predecessor. Some might attribute this to the failure to realize “the campaign is over” but it is perhaps better understood as milking his change meme for all its worth. He is changing from the Bush era, he repeats ad nauseam. The result, nevertheless, is a decided lack of graciousness toward his predecessor.
Peter Robinson, former Reagan speech writer, observes of the Inaugural Address:
George W. Bush had gone to exceptional lengths to ensure a smooth transition, even making some unpopular moves — such as asking Congress to release some $350 billion bailout funds — to spare Obama the trouble. Obama offered Bush no more than a single, curt sentence of thanks. Then he blamed Bush for the economic crisis, denouncing his “failure to make hard choices” — as if Bush hadn’t attempted to deal with the crisis by enacting a stimulus measure of the very kind Obama himself now proposes — and accused Bush of “protecting narrow interests.” For that matter, the new president all but ignored the principal task of any inaugural address, that of reuniting the nation after the divisiveness of a campaign. Almost 60 million Americans cast their ballots for Sen. John McCain. What did Obama have to say to his opponents? “What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them.” Some olive branch.
And the same smallness of spirit is showing up in rhetoric directed toward the Republicans in Congress.
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1. eor:I wandered why Obama walked around with his nose in the air. I thought perhaps he had little man syndrome until I saw how tall Michelle was. Someone said over 6 feet. He’s almost as tall so I’ve decided he just thinks he’s better than the rest of us and is just stuck up. Juvenile isn’t it? Ooh—maybe it has something to do with his vision—
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:10 am 2. John Charles:The Saul Alinsky community organizer emerges. Hold on to your seats my fellow Americans, for this “unknown”, unqualified, inexperienced, self-centered, egotistical, narcissistic, jugged eared, creep that just got voted to be the President of the United States is becoming known.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:52 am 3. Sami:Good points.
And you could add his politicization of the official whitehouse.gov website. Unlike Bush and previous presidents who played it straight, Obama has corrupted it by attacking Bush’s “failed promises” on Katrina and by listing, not the Constitution’s actual wording, but Obama’s interpretation of the words. I grow more appalled with his hubris every day and there is no mainstream legitimate press to question him.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:41 am 4. David Thomson:“Indeed, by invoking Limbaugh’s name he brought on not only a finely crafted response (which made a convincing case that the stimulus is a political maneuver not an economic recovery plan), but ensnared himself in exactly the sort of political bric-a-brac he wants to avoid.”
Barack Obama’s invoking the name of Rush Limbaugh is similar to the proverbial drunk 130-pound weakling who is foolish enough to challenge a room full of Hell’s Angels gang members. The results inevitably will not be pretty. Obama is an intellectual lightweight—and the famous radio talk show host is extremely knowledgeable. Limbaugh would easily humiliate the pseudo-educated Obama in a debate. The new president’s Harvard University law credentials overly impress far too many people. They fail to comprehend that they merely prove that Obama should be able to pass a State board examination. It means nothing more than that. Limbaugh has accidentally forgotten more about the current issues of the day than Obama ever learned.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:58 am 5. Ozzie:I’m glad he decided to slap Republicans around. For eight years the Republican leadership refused to defend itself against the most outrageous lies and propaganda. The need as much pain and humiliation they are willing to suffer before they stand up and defend themselves. It’s either that, or the gimp box. Either way we need them to start fighting, reembrace conservatism, or get the hell out of the slots and let better people in.
Jan 26, 2009 - 3:03 am 6. Ann141:“Why (would Obama) do this?”
Because this is who he is. Arrogant. Small. Self-centered. Ignorant. BMOC. Childish. Empty of ideas. Unable to articulate principles effectively. Inexperienced in governing or managing anything. Rude.
It was my dearest hope that he would implode early and often.
I couldn’t have imagined that it would be this early, this often and this completely.
4. David Thomsen…you said it well, with the fine ending point of your last sentence. Thank you.
Jan 26, 2009 - 3:25 am 7. Tom:I think his “I won” remark, and his visible irritation at the question fielded by Politico at his meet ‘n greet with the press, reveal an immaturity, and perhaps a short fuse, that was absent, or carefully hidden, during the campaign. I don’t know why he decided to make Rush Limbaugh an issue if he thinks Limbaugh is a marginal figure. He gets mad because the press won’t leave him alone when he wants private time. He insists he has to have his Blackberry, in spite of the concerns about security, and the fact that all presidential correspondence is owned by the government, Of course, he’s given a deferral, since he’s so “tech savvy” that it must be allowed. I wonder how that will go down if he’s hacked?
He’s starting to look more like Nixon. In spite of the rhetoric of “uniter” to the contrary, I’m beginning to see a mean and small-minded side to him that will likely become more apparent as the pressure of the office comes to bear on him.
Jan 26, 2009 - 3:39 am 8. Jarhead91:Ozzie, What we need to do is get rid of the wimps and the het-along Rinos in the primaries. I’m tired of the GOP being the stupid party because they can’t remember why they were elected.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:11 am 9. joe:I am not really sure why anyone is surprised by the attitude displayed by B Hussein O. One only has to look at both his childhood and his race to see this is very much a predictable outcome.
He will find at the end of the day this is going to cause him more problems and trouble than he will ever gain. I for one want to keep the expectations he has promised the American people front and center. The higher these are and let’s face it he has done this to himself, the greater his fall will be.
The only real question is how much his arrogance is going to cost in American lives, personal freedoms, and economic well-being.
This is going to end badly for all of us.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:25 am 10. Cog99:He’s a puppet. Small minded, afraid of others. He finds it necessary to run down others in order to keep himself propped up. I also find the blackberry thing to be very revealing. If the NSA provided it, the NSA can also monitor it. Barry will be stage managed to do whatever it is the CIA and NSA want him to do. I’m not even sure he’ll realize it’s happening.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:47 am 11. formwiz:Interesting that so many people are already invoking the shades of Nixon and the specter of Jimmy Carter. Obama has never had to deal with people with differing opinions and agendas and work out some kind of middle ground. The Chicago crowd always took care of that for him by eliminating the opposition so all he had to do was vote “present”.
Now, he’s even snapping at his own lapdogs in the press corps. If the Republicans gain in Congress in ‘10 or Putin, Cahvez, or the Dinner Jacket start giving him trouble, we could finally see the real Obama.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:50 am 12. Mike2:“And he might argue the merits of his stimulus plan rather than resort to ad hominem attacks.”
Maybe his stimulus plan has no merits other than keeping the Dems in power for the next 60 years, therefore the attacks.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:54 am 13. mishu:——————————————-
Who is John Galt?
He may just overreach in his first year. 2010 may just be a very good year.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:58 am 14. Bernard Chapin:He’s a leftist which is what he’s always been. Even with the polish he remains poisoned by their personality traits: narcissism, self-righteousness, ungratefulness, etc. Another excellent article, Jennifer.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:13 am 15. edgarde:Yeah, picking on the retarded is not cool, Obama — GW Bush and Reagan are OFF-LIMITS. And snubbing the Republicans just because they promise to filibuster every stimulus package until the Bush tax cuts are made permanent — why can’t you just give the GOP everything they want, the way Clinton did?
It seems President Obama does not know how to play the game. Impeach now for not being born in the United States.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:15 am 16. Paul - Indiana:None of this is new. Many of us saw through this snake oil salesman from the start.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:15 am 17. nadadhimmi:Obamas’ body language speaks volumns. Arms crossed insolently, head turned, sneer on his lips and nose in the air. My first thought upon seeing this pose was immediately, this guy thinks he Mussolini. Of course, the average American is now so ignorant after 30 years of deliberate educational dumbing down that they haven’t ever seen the images or are aware of the thought and crowd control techniques used by the dictators of the 30’s. Believe me, after the Denver rally, Obama, or probably Ayers, knows them and is employing them. They seem new and fresh to people who haven’t seen them before. That rally was pure “Triumph of the Will”. Leni Reifenstahl would have been proud.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:19 am 18. Ann141:Jarhead and Ozzie…right on.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:21 am 19. Fantom:At least Nixon did have the Countries interest at heart, no matter his personal failings. B.O. is all about B.O.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:23 am 20. Phineas:Don’t forget his peevishness at being asked questions while eating (”Can’t I just eat my waffle?”) or *gasp!* at a press conference (”I answered like, 8 questions.”), or recently when entering the White House press room. Or how about the truly odd sight of him, the number one on his ticket, taking time to attack Sarah Palin, the number two on the other ticket during the campaign? This is a man who, for all his projected confidence, isn’t at all secure in himself. He’s very thin-skinned, and it’s eventually going to affect even MSM’s adoration of him.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:58 am 21. Big Al:All good posts, assuming he is that dumb to try Limbaugh, how did this get by his advisors? you know clinton did similar in St Louie once and did not like his side of it.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:59 am 22. drjohn:Is so simple that he is that arrogant and confidant that he can continue to fool the masses again and again, the alinsky doctrine points do continue to fit nicely as well. (Maybe, Limbaugh is not on in Chicago and he just doesn’t know what just happened to him, he will at noon o six today.)
Obama does not do humility well.
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:14 am 23. jerryofva:Nada:
Don’t diss Il Duce! Mussolini was a literate man. When he led the mob he recited Dante from memory. He spoke four languages fluently and on his vacation before he met his well deserved fate he spend his time reading Dostoevsky. Obama isn’t in his intellectual league.
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:20 am 24. Grover:“In sum, President Obama is an elegant man who enjoys the goodwill of most citizens.”
One would have to define ‘good will’. My definition is ‘votes cast’, and 53% is not a mandate for BHO to lead in such a heavy-handed fashion. What’s next?
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:27 am 25. Kevin:His first week was a wonderful preview of his Lordship’s rule the next four years. Admittedly, I wish conservative Repubs went for the kill when we had a majority – but they were too busy looking over their shoulders as to what the NYT and Post were writing about them. Of course, I would hope that Repubs would be a bit more gracious as they stomped on the throat of the enemy. The Dems, God bless em’, have no such impediments of conscience.
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:29 am 26. deguello:What could anyone expect? The man is a marxoid street thug, with the instincts of the gutter hidden by a drooling media, and hand tailored suits.Imagine Al Sharpton after Dr. Watkins diet,and an affirmative action Ivy League degree, and you have imagined, the Obamanation. This is just the beginning;the attack on Limbaugh heralds an offensive against the alternative media,and thus, against the first amendment. The idiots whovoted for Obama, wanted change;what they got is America’s own Hugo Chavez.
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:32 am 27. J. PINKERTON SNOOPINGTON:EDGARDE
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:38 am 28. glenn:#15
To date, the Messiah has spent between $800,000.00 and
$1,000,000.00 of his own funds with 3 separate law firms
(1 of which happens to be an Islamic firm) defending against lawsuits brought to establish his citizenship. To date, no, I repeat, no certificate of live birth has ever been produced by him. He prefers to wipe his feet on the Constitution in much the same fashion as his buddy Bill Ayers wipes his feet on our flag. Perhaps your impeachment suggestion has some merit…..
Relax folks, Aiich is just throwing his troops some red meat. Doesn’t want ‘em to think he’s lost the plot. BTW, hope nobody monds if I call him Aiich. It’s kind of like the way some Dems called Bush Dubya. Absolutely no disrespect intended, none, nada, never, not even a little.
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:39 am 29. Sissy Willis:As Rush told Byron York re Obama’s attack:
One more thing, Byron. Your publication and website have documented Obama’s ties to the teachings of Saul Alinksy while he was community organizing in Chicago. Here is Rule 13 of Alinksy’s Rules for Radicals:
“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
Bush’s fault!
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:40 am 30. Mimi:obama really does walk around with his nose in the air. Even Clinton, who was very full of himself and who absolutely loved being president, was not as arrogant as he is. His face is eloquent of self satisfaction. Needless to say, those who point this out will be accused of racism.
What if Bush had said, don’t read the NY Times. How would the media have reacted? With rage and hysteria.
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:59 am 31. goy:Uhm… BHO picked this guy as his closest and most trusted cabinet member.
Given that, and many other indicators in line with that, just exactly what did anyone think his attitude was going to be once he was inaugurated? It is the adolescent Left who lack grace, not just this one member of their tribe.
Wasting time and effort whinging about it or, dumber still, suggesting what a narcissist should do (differently) to earn the favor of those for whom he’s already demonstrated a long-standing disdain and loathing, is the height of barking up the wrong tree, IMHO.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:10 am 32. Robert Hurley:Limbaugh is the perfect tool for the wingnuts. He has no familiarity with any incovenient facts. He readily distorts truth. Lately his retoric has more incommon with the terrorists than loyal Americans.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:20 am 33. ricpic:It’s astounding what a doofus move this is on Obama’s part: attacking Limbaugh. Here he is, the most powerful man in the world, showing that he can be thrown off his game by opposition from a radio talk show host, and on top of that antagonizing the one group, hetero white males, that he could easily be neutralizing by throwing them a bone or two instead of giving them Rush to rally round. Stupid in the extreme.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:21 am 34. AnninCA:Mimi, one big difference is that Clinton loved debate. It was his opponents who were often sorry they’d brought the subject up.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:23 am 35. goy:@Hurley: so, you listen to Rush regularly, do you? What truth(s) has he distorted of late? Just curious, since I’ve never caught his program myself (no patience for talk radio). Let’s hear your in-depth analysis and the list of facts that make Limbaugh a liar. Do enlighten us all.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:26 am 36. tanstaafl:In the first days of the new President’s term, the attitude projected seems to be…”hey, we won, the nearly 1/2 of the country that voted for my opponent is now irrelevant”.
Such posturing smacks of hubris.
Hubris, despite its appearance, is usually a function of insecurity, weakness & not being sure of oneself. It has a tyrannical aspect.
(5¢ please
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Jan 26, 2009 - 7:33 am 37. fear Obama:Now you have a glimpse of the destructive minds of the opposition.
Remember Nixon’s (Committee to Re-elect the president.) Dirty tricks and sabotage- Watergate 1972 .
At least Nixon’s tribe were smart enough to try and covertly cover it up.
I always said:
He should have burned those tapes in the White House fireplace.
Anyway……..
I Won will be moving with his congress and senate to find enemies of the state and we also have a signal that Obama could be serious about imposing a Censorship Doctrine on talk radio.
quoted from —Tim Graham Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:41 am 38. james:Obama reminds me of a cocky football player. Apparently, it’s just his right to treat everybody like he’s better than them.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:47 am 39. Rootin' for Putin:No, Clinton did not love true debate. He would always change the subject and the same press media lapdogs would take his side. (We know who you are. Haven’t you got a column or two to write?)
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:59 am 40. Scott F.:I think Republicans to be reminded that they lost because the majority in this country voted them out. There is nothing wrong in Obama pointing this out. When Limbaugh states that he hopes Obama fails, he is big fat idiot.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:03 am 41. Jbl:Obama may be an elegant man, but he is revealing himself to be a petty one who cannot resist the urge to throw barbs which – in the end – speak more about himself than about others.
He has been in office less than a week. I began on Tuesday morning feeling “reserved but hopeful.” After his ungracious inaugural speech, that was already a little deflated. And within less than a week Obama has moved me from “hopeful” to “wary as hell.”
He’s going to put people out of work by encouraging states to set their own emissions standards; this WILL NOT stimulate the economy, it will force the auto makers and oil companies to spend more money to meet regulations, which will COST JOBS. Also, he had that idiot Biden on tv yesterday saying “we were left a mess in Afghanistan” but he didn’t also ad that they were also left a plan. And the plan looks a lot like the successful “surge” they opposed in Iraq, and still can’t bring themselves to admit worked.
We are now being led by small, petty men who have no generosity and huge appetites for power, and by a small, petty woman who thinks that contraception will stimulate the economy.
Yes. In less than one week, my hope is vanished and these people are scaring the hell out of me. They are cunning but not smart.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:04 am 42. Webutante:Remember, having a gracious patina certainly doesn’t necessarily mean a graciousness of heart. See next four years.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:04 am 43. tanstaafl:When Limbaugh states that he hopes Obama fails, he is big fat idiot.
Limbaugh has stated numerous times that Obama is his President.
He has said he hopes, for the sake of the country, that Obama’s Presidency is a success.
His further point, however, is that if Obama’s agenda is truly socialism (many of such deep “changes” would make it difficult if not impossible for the country to recover), then, he hopes those policies fail.
(In sum, your knee jerk characterization of L’s position is incorrect)
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:20 am 44. Laura:Rush tells it like it is….he speaks for the majority that are too afraid to speak up lest they be called white racists. The fact that BHO is rattled by a talk show host speaks volumes. It is quite funny actually.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:28 am 45. therealist:Perhaps Obama needs an enemy now that Bush-Cheney is out of there. He’s also picked on Lou Dobbs, O’Reilly, and Hannity before too. However all of these individuals are extraordinarily charismatic and insightful and I agree that he’s probably picked the wrong battle. O’Reilly really owned the debate with Obama when he was on the Factor.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:33 am 46. Cybergeezer:Get the Jewish Mothers out of the media and Pajamas Media moderation; Public dissension and comment are being censored.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:40 am 47. CitizenFist:High School? Some vicious and immature comments here. A tinge of hypocrisy in many of them, including your article: “he owes his opponents only civility, but not respect.” Our former leader was capable of neither.
As much as I love Rush, he’s a hypocrite every other sentence. Truly, one of the most arrogant men alive. Listen again, and…
Listen to yourself, honestly.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:41 am 48. Delia:An “elegant man”? *cough* Sorry, but ego maniacal chicken-legged man boobs does not strike me as “elegant”. He’s an ‘actor’ at best… The “uppity negro” act gets tiresome though. Teleprompter Teddy Ruxpin on Crack is not genteel by any stretch in my humble opinion.
People who can’t/won’te or refuse to see Barack’s flaws are in for a sorry wake-up/shake-up.
All you have to do is look at the pig mess left by the lefties after the inaug to see what we’re dealing with here. A whole lot of GARBAGE. BHO and his ilk are a the typical hypocritical b.s.-ers. Chicago politics as usual.
Let’s all come together in unity and hate America equally. Git ‘er done!
-Just sayin’.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:42 am 49. Cybergeezer:Like Limbaugh says; “Taking on the liberal media with half his brain tied behind his back”. Half-wits, retards, and the like, do get special treatment in the U.S. That’s how we got our new president.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:43 am 50. David P:Words won the election, but necessary Actions will squander the spoils of victory once the winners realize they too are bound, limited & confined by the same rules, regulations & challenges that govern our decisions.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:45 am 51. mshatto:Bobby Hurley – I used to think of you and the anti-Semite who shares most of your views, as real people who’ve been granted computer access on their breaks from the mental asylum. After your latest posts and blunderings though, I’ve come to realize you are nothing but a stalking horse, a strip of flypaper with a sweet or in your case bitter smell, hung out to attract readers and elicit endless commentary and critique from conservative and right minded people. To the staffer who gets to make up this stuff, I must admit I’m jealous. It’s my understanding that it is one of the more enjoyable roles, playing a mentally deranged or unhinged person. Good job, keep up the good work.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:52 am 52. Alice:You know that new construction at the White House? That’s the display window where the NIC (narcissist in chief) will work out while an adoring public files by outside. Like Lenin’s tomb in Moscow, except with Obama only his brain is dead. Or like the ho houses in “Hambsterdam.” Imagine the miles of people lined up for the display.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:54 am 53. james:This is a nice piece, and correct, too. But really naive. Obama is being who he is, who he has ever been. He’s a vicious, violent totalitarian who, if he could, would make registered republicans build their own prison camps, the way Stalin did.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:04 am 54. Delia:You think I exaggerate? Just wait and remember where you heard it first.
Alice, NIC ["Narcissist in chief"] has a nice ring to it!
Can I steal that? Thanks! Seriously. That made my day!
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:05 am 55. Scott F.:The GOP will be spending a long time in the wilderness, so get use to being a minority party. And give some thought to why the country voted you out.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:11 am 56. Delia:Scott F,
Fifty-two percent is not the WHOLE COUNTRY.
Add in some ACORN B.S. and it’s an even split.
So, what’s your point, honey chile?
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:24 am 57. Scott F.:Yes, 52% is a majority and your also forgetting substantial loses in both the House and Senate. The next election will likely favor Democrats due increases in party identification with Democrats, demographics, and GOP retirements. The GOP is treading water. GOP needs new leadership and ideas.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:32 am 58. He Got Game:In sum, President Obama is an elegant man <<’
I think that Ms Rubin has the hots for the Mac Daddy POTUS.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:34 am 59. Robert Hurley:Goy – I make it a plocy never to cast pearls before swine
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:39 am 60. goy:@Hurley: No, actually, you’re a leftist troll who can’t answer a direct question.
And your incessant posting here also makes you a liar.
You’re constantly casting your faux pearls here – before those you think of as swine.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:50 am 61. Delia:Scott F. “GOP needs new leadership and ideas.”
That I firmly believe. All of the “middle-road” crap is turning the Repubs into a bunch of pansy asses. Time to clean house and get rid of the RINOS. I’m all for having a truly CONSERVATIVE movement.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:51 am 62. Robert Hurley:It is great coming to this site and watching the wingnuts frothing at the mouth – and this is only the begining. Just wait until all his programs are enacted. It must be hard when his approval rating are north of 75%.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:52 am 63. Steve P.:Rush Limbaugh has just said that he’s hoping his president will fail, signifying that he’s more concerned with the resurgence of the Republican party and his own ratings than he is with the wellbeing of the country. The rest of the Republican party, moments after being ousted from power due to gross negligence and incompetence, is making empty threats to a new president that they certainly can’t back up. I’m glad that Obama is getting tough early. It’s very important to point out that there’s a reason the Republicans lost, and it was because of the failure of many of their ideas. If those ideas failed, why should the incoming president give legitimacy to those ideas, or to morons like Rush limbaugh, who insanely believe that re-embracing the failed ideas that got us into this mess will somehow get us out?
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:52 am 64. tanstaafl:I make it a plocy never to cast pearls before anyone who refers to Limbaugh’s (or anyone’s) “retoric”, especially in such a dubious, shallow and ridiculous manner…
…his retoric has more incommon with the terrorists than loyal Americans
Honestly, I think the new rule in LeftLand is that dissent is treasonous.
(maybe not such a new rule, given the assumption underlying Political Correctness that only certain kinds of speech are “free”)
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:04 am 65. goy:- Rush Limbaugh has just said that he’s hoping his president will fail…
Cite? In context, of course.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:05 am 66. Horace Wells:Rush is the classic bully, he abuses people but when confronted, blames the victim then plays the victim himself, because he can count on legions of saps to abett his bs.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:06 am 67. Mimi:Most of you Obama critics spen two years vilifying him every way you can but now like the little bullies, you play the victim when he shouts back. Come on, let’s come out with the dictator Stalinist fantasies too! I guess this is ODS in action.
This is so petty, but that is what being a con is all about I gather from reading blogs like this and listening to loudmouths on the radio.
many many times I have heard liberals say they wanted Bush to fail. They wanted the US to lose the war. They wanted the economy to go bad. I even know people who expressed a wish that our soldiers would be killed. Now suddenly wishing ill on the opposition is regarded as an evil trait.
Obama can suceed only as Stalin succeeded, if such can be called success. He can make the country poorer and destroy free speech. That is why many of us believe he will do or will try to do. That is why we hope he fails.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:06 am 68. flanders:sniffle sniffle, “why is this boy so mean?” you guys need to get a life.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:14 am 69. Jbl:Ellen Ratner to Linda Vestor 2003: We’ll just have to hope Iraq goes badly so we can reclaim the White House.
All the left did for 7 years was hope Bush would fail and joke about assassinating him.
Obama can’t deal with a little criticism? Poor man. Poor, small man.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:14 am 70. Neo:I give POTUS Obama 3 weeks before he explodes at the press, that of course assumes that he descends from Mount Hope and Change to talk to them.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:15 am 71. Nate Cognito:For leadership on economic, fiscal, and ethics issues (and yes, they are related), the GOP need look no farther than Tom Coburn (R-OK). If the party had listened to him more, and to Trent Lott, Duke Cunningham, Ted Stevens, Don Young, Jack Abramoff, and their ilk less, the GOP would most likely still have the majority in the Congress and maybe the White House, too. Of course, speaking only for myself, I prefer the Congress and White House be in the hands of different parties – that way they keep an eye on each other.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:15 am 72. MarkD:Approval ratings for a guy with less than a week on the job are meaningless.
So far the only thing he’s done that I think is notably bad is allow California to go off on their own emission standards again. I’m sure the automakers, who we just gave billions to, love that expense.
One would expect more consistency from a good leader.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:16 am 73. Bod:Well, Robert, for a wile, Dubya’s approval ratings were up there too.
Didn’t seem to stop you guys wishing for his downfall and claiming he didn’t represent you.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:16 am 74. Fred:“Limbaugh would easily humiliate the pseudo-educated Obama in a debate.”
Limbaugh NEVER engages in debates – he’s a clown and an entertainer – name ONE debate that Limbaugh has ever engaed with a Progressive. The mood around this place is that Obama is an uppity ni&&er who failed to learn his place. When George Bush appeared before the Mission Accomplished banner (i.e., I won) – repubs and conservatives could barely contain their erections – “bring it on” was applauded – even as the war spiraled into chaos, awaiting – of course, the Democratic Surge(tm) to set things straight. The difference between Bushian arrogance and Obama’s brashness is one of skin color: Bush “earned” his right to wear a flight suit and proclaim Mission Accomplished! After all, he was a great white warrior. Obama?
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:19 am 75. tanstaafl:just an uppity ni&&er…
Hint…cautioning Congressional Republicans to not listen to Rush Limbaugh (even bringing up a talk radio personality) in a Presidential meeting is not (I repeat, not) “getting tough early” or “shouting back”.
Such comments by the new President are indicative of a thin skinned-ness, an unhealthy obsession and a barely concealed agenda to absolutely control the whole dialogue.
Kind of a “my way or the highway” moment.
Shudder.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:21 am 76. Delia:Mimi, I hope Obama’s policies fail and I hope people’s eyes are opened and people’s mind’s are changed for the better. I hope the COUNTRY recovers from A VERY HARSH lesson.
Holy crappola. I just sounded all hopey changey!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
*bleaches brain*
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:22 am 77. goy:- …name ONE debate that Limbaugh has ever engaed with a Progressive.
Heh. Trick question. There have been no Progressives since Teddy Roosevelt’s administration.
There have been plenty of those, since, who label themselves “progressive”, but only to avoid the label that best describes them: socialists.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:26 am 78. John:“Rush Limbaugh has just said that he’s hoping his president will fail, signifying that he’s more concerned with the resurgence of the Republican party and his own ratings than he is with the wellbeing of the country”
Oh that is rich. The left and the Democrats spent the last 8 years praying the US would lose in Iraq and Afghanistan. Few things made Dems happier than dead US soldiers. Everyone else may have forgotten Michael Moore and his cheering supporters wishing for a “1000 mogadeshus” when we invaded Iraq or the palpable disapointment among Dems when the surge worked but I haven’t. Spare me the sunny patriotism. Anyone who has been paying attention the last 8 years knows there is nothing patriotic about the Dems or the left.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:27 am 79. BD57:Lots of funny comments here ….
Limbaugh hoping Obama fails is pretty easy to square with “being a patriot”
1) Limbaugh believes Obama’s policies will be a disaster for the nation;
2) Therefore, he hopes Obama fails in his attempt to implement them because that would be good for the nation.
This is hardly “extraordinary” – the majority of elected Democrats in Congress opposed Reagan’s policies when he took office in 1981 … were they putting party before the nation? Or were they patriots who opposed that which they thought harmful?
It wasn’t too long ago that the folks criticizing Limbaugh today were telling us that dissent from Bush policies was patriotic …. and now dissent isn’t patriotic …. what changed?
And it’s such a giggle to see the “smart” people reduced to ad hominem ….
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:32 am 80. Mwalimu Daudi:I, too, hope that Obama fails. That is our only hope for the future.
This makes me a racist Christianist homophobic tax-cutting Jew-luvin’ illegal war for oil-supporting global warming-denying Zionist Islamophobic enemy of the people.
Oh – and it is now fashionable to question my patriotism, since dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Don’t forget that!
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:38 am 81. A. Weick:The David Dinkins experiment in New York City is now being repeated on a national scale. And we all know how that turned out.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:39 am 82. goy:- Limbaugh hoping Obama fails is pretty easy to square with “being a patriot”
It’s also pretty easy to square with the lessons of history. Marxist-socialists like BHO have failed to bring positive change to any situation. Anywhere. Ever.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:44 am 83. Jeff:The One is simply a con man …
Everything he says has an expiration date, everything … sometimes within hours or days …
Just words, he takes that to heart …
He is a moral and intellectual coward who will always find a staffer to blame when he gets caught with his deeds not matching his words …
Just look at the 3 most influential people in his adult life …
Michelle … a nasty race and money obsessed whiner …
Rev. Wright … simply a racist …
Bill Ayers … an anti-American radical attempted murderer …
Tony Rezko … convicted Chicago policital “fixer” …
These were/are Obama’s closest friends and confidants …
No cub scout leaders in the mix, no blue collar factory workers, no military folks … just radicals, racists or rascals …
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:50 am 84. Jimmy:“In sum, President Obama is an elegant man who enjoys the goodwill of most citizens.”
Elegant? Wrong.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:51 am 85. tanstaafl:It wasn’t too long ago that the folks criticizing Limbaugh today were telling us that dissent from Bush policies was patriotic …. and now dissent isn’t patriotic …. what changed?
Many on the Left were relentlessly “treasonous” in their attacks for the duration of GWB’s Presidency…(now they’re attacking the other side for disloyalty and sedition for any criticism of The One™, the irony of this contradiction completely escapes them)
Many in Congress have shown weak and limpid (”treasonous”) spines when the operation in Iraq went south and public opinion turned “against” the war. Some even prominent Senators (Biden, Clinton, Kerry…) who voted in 2002 for authorization of use of force in Iraq.
Jan 26, 2009 - 10:52 am 86. Mary:Roberta Huntly: Still at it Beta Boy? Run out of bed pan, Roberta dear?
Missy, you are the pig, just ask any women you know (well you might have to just bottonhile one on the street, I guess). Look into their eyes, they will lie with their mouths, but recoil with their eyes. But you knew that. This is your real problem.
Women do not want beta males. It will be this way all your life. Get used to it.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:05 am 87. ReConUSMC:In a One on One Nationally Televised Winner take all Debate. I would give a Months pay to witness for Mankind and Historic Obama’s Ass Kicking not to mention a must Show to all Grammar , High School , College students , Middle Class and the Minority Community yearly .
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:05 am 88. Mary:Obama’s Historic total failures racial Socialism Marxism Leninist Theories and views V/s Limbaugh Capitalism tried and tested beliefs would make “The Chosen One” look like a babbling Baboon using about 50 Ah Ah Ahhhh a Minute . It would be like a real Man Vs Spoiled young Boy.
Obama would be completely befuddled since No One has questioned him deeply to my knowledge about his Leninist theories and Rush is questioned Hundreds of Times a week quite nasty and often he welcomes on his beliefs .. Huge difference .
Limbough has the largest Archive Library in the world on that very subject meaning Millions of Facts not unproven Theories , Myths or out right lies . Like him or not Rush Limbough has a Photographic memory and instant recall and is even more articulate that Obama since Rush does not read from a Idiot Board , Telaprompter , or written speeches by David Axelrod his Quarterback .
But how could Rush win the debate so easily ? Simple .. History , Facts and unequalled Capitalist Success in World History vs Feeling and Millions of Murders , Starvation’s , Emotions , total Failure , Maybes and You own my People Win no debates . Reality does always .
Not to mention FDR.s 1930-1941 History line Obama is now blindly following sadly .
FDR had 20-28 % inflation , 14- % 22 employment for 10 years even after putting over TWO TRILLION DOLLARS INTO THE ECONOMY and ask Congress in 1940 for tax bill that anyone making over $ 100.000.00 paid 100 % in taxes . He invented paying Co.s not to produce goods as well as Farms .He was the first President to subsidize many Industries still subsidized 75 years later .
FDR.s taxes went as high as 83 % , a huge excise tax and a 50 % Capital gains tax . Thus Killing Free Markets any chance new Business’s or ones straying in Business . FRD Killed the Free Markets .
FRD deeply believed only Government could fix the economy .WW 2 fixed the Economy not FDR.
See in a new well researched Book named
Hey Horace: You are a classical Weenie.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:10 am 89. Robert Hurley:ReconUSMC – I guess it wasn’t the Government that paid for WWII. It must have been private enterprise. I guess you learned your economics at the feet of your Master Rush. Talk about sucking up to your idol. Can’t you think for yourself!
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:20 am 90. goy:ReCon’ – the entire nation could benefit from an openly aired debate of the kind you describe.
Which is why the media would never let it happen, and would never broadcast it live if it did.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:30 am 91. Paul B:#9 Joe wrote “I am not really sure why anyone is surprised by the attitude displayed by B Hussein O. One only has to look at both his childhood and his race to see this is very much a predictable outcome.”
Nice racist comment Joe – and nice to see that the rightwing nut jobs here aren’t bothered by it.
#77 Goy wrote “Heh. Trick question. There have been no Progressives since Teddy Roosevelt’s administration.
There have been plenty of those, since, who label themselves “progressive”, but only to avoid the label that best describes them: socialists.”
So lets use your(ignorant)nomenclature: when has Limbaugh ever debated a socialist in a format where he couldn’t hang up on him or go to a commercial break? Obama debated all of the Democratic primary contenders (including a couple 1 on 1’s with Senator Clinton) and three 90 minute debates with Senator McCain. Limbaugh would last about 15 minutes before flop sweating while trying answer counterarguments he has the luxury of deliberately avoiding on his show. Rush is just a very well paid carny with an audience of devoted rubes.
#88 John wrote: “Everyone else may have forgotten Michael Moore and his cheering supporters wishing for a “1000 mogadeshus” when we invaded Iraq…”
Probably because Michael Moore never said such a thing.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:30 am 92. JB:“It must be hard when his approval rating are north of 75%.”
“Overall, 60% of all voters somewhat or strongly approve of Obama’s performance so far while 37% disapprove…”
from Rassmussen
Thank you for making up easily verifiable facts. It makes dismissals of your drivel that much easier.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:30 am 93. goy:@Hurley/Troll: I guess it wasn’t the Government that paid for WWII.
Guessed correctly. It wasn’t the Government, it was the taxpayers who paid for WWII. The taxes they paid and the War Bond they purchased (essentially, Treasury Bills) provided the funding. No different from today’s bailouts.
Taxes come from… surprise… private enterprise, i.e., corporate, income and sales taxes. People purchase government bonds with money made via… surprise… private enterprise.
In fact, I’m waiting with bated breath for BHO’s first implication that taxing Americans for the bailouts and taxing Americans to pay for “stimulus” to fight the sagging economy (read: redistribute to people who didn’t earn it) are the “moral equivalent of war”.
And you still haven’t answered the question up above, troll.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:37 am 94. nobozons:BO has not disappointed me. He is as bad as I thought he would be, perhaps worse. I just hope we survive.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:38 am 95. Steve P.:David Thomson:
“Barack Obama’s invoking the name of Rush Limbaugh is similar to the proverbial drunk 130-pound weakling who is foolish enough to challenge a room full of Hell’s Angels gang members.”
Yeah, except for the fact that Obama pumps iron daily, whereas Limbaugh is an obese, pill popping baby who spends his days isolated in a heavily-guarded sound booth for fear of having to engage a normal human being.
David Thomson: “Obama is an intellectual lightweight—and the famous radio talk show host is extremely knowledgeable. Limbaugh would easily humiliate the pseudo-educated Obama in a debate.”
Limbaugh never debates anyone. He hides from debate. That’s why he does radio. He never has to justify himself or back up his arguments with fact. In the event that a “debate” does occur between himself and a caller, he just shouts over the caller and/or cuts them off. That’s about all Limbaugh knows about debate. He’d get his shrivelled unit handed to him by a real man, our president, who had the cajones to go toe-to-toe with O’Reilly and not back down. I’d like to see Rush have the guts to do something similar. But he never will.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:38 am 96. k a 0 s:Bush = Snowball/Jones
Obama = Napolean
Strawman 101
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:41 am 97. goy:@Paul B: - So lets use your…
Thanks for your tacit agreement. We are awash in problems caused and/or exacerbated by socialists masquerading as “progressives”.
To answer your irrelevant question, I’m not aware of Limbaugh having participated in any debates, period. I guess I’m not as obsessed with him as you and BHO seem to be. And your “predictions” of how well he’d do are about as empty as BHO’s admonitions declaring he should be ignored.
On BHO’s debate “prowess” *cough*, the one point there that stands out is his straight-faced lie of omission about his political alliance with radical marxist and domestic terrorist Billy Ayers. That was revealing indeed.
This whole episode reminds me a bit of Joe the Plumber, who got a LOT more media and O-bot campaign overreaction – including misfeasance on the part of one of BHO’s supporters in the Ohio State government, who ultimately resigned (read: was fired) – than a simple question/statement warranted. All because the mask slipped. Heh.
Limbaugh has clearly stated that he hopes BHO’s efforts at liberalism fail. Hyperventilating leftist/liberals who criticize him want to ignore that minor detail and pretend Limbaugh’s wish is personal.
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:54 am 98. goy:@Steve P: …Obama pumps iron daily, whereas Limbaugh is an obese, pill popping baby who spends his days isolated in a heavily-guarded sound booth for fear of having to engage a normal human being.
Once you hit “submit” you realized how stupid that statement was, didn’t you.
BHO is probably the most heavily-guarded individual on the planet. And at this point he interacts pretty much solely with people in government. Normal? Not.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:09 pm 99. Someone75:Wow – so much hatred and pettiness all in one place. You guys should stop being so bitter and fix your party. All I hear on PJMedia is complaining. Quit living in denial – Obama IS president. All you can do is move forward. Or live in the past and complain like a bunch of teenagers.
Grow. Up.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:10 pm 100. db-20:“Rush tells it like it is….he speaks for the majority that are too afraid to speak up”
Yes, keep telling yourselves this. “We are the majority”. The “we” being the 15% extremists of the US population who come here to some of these blogs to make themselves feel like they are not alone- VERY alone.
I have to say that it is entertaining to see that the election of Obama has brought out, in force, this tiny minority of easily dismissed extremists who wear tin hats to ward off the evil “media” simply because it does not conform tho the “Doctrine of Hannity”, or “Teachings or Rush”. These are the only ones with the motivation to post their insane babbling over and over again.
However, I encourage you! Keep foaming! The more you reprobates come to represent the GOP in the eyes of average Americans, the sooner the GOP will be changed. Eventually, we can hope for rational conservatives to take over from the frothing-at-the-mouth far right evangelical and neocon nutcases. Only then will the GOP become a national party again, and not the rump party of the old ignorant South that is has become.
Wow. Last time I follow a link to “pajamas”. clearly a pathetic crew of dead-enders.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:11 pm 101. Karin:Robert Hurley, you are exaggerating the approval numbers. Rasmussen takes the Strongly Approve (42% this morning, down), and subtracts the Strongly Disapprove (20%, up) to get an index of 22 this a.m., down every day since the inauguration. Like the stock market.
As for O’s comment “don’t listen to Rush,” this is like banning books in Boston. Please, that’s so elementary. Plus, it smacks of “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.” People start paying attention.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:12 pm 102. Robert Hurley:goy -You just admitted you were wrong – The point is that it was not private inductry that finally lifted us out of teh Depression
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:24 pm 103. Delia:Ever watched the movie “Idiocracy”?
A lot of libtars are mentally ‘batin’ here. Why come to a place that’s obviously right leaning is circle-jerk-ular logic at it’s most ludicrous.
Now, now, children. Go drink your Sunny B. You got your prezzyyyyyyyyyyydent.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:26 pm 104. Steve P.:goy: “Once you hit “submit” you realized how stupid that statement was, didn’t you. BHO is probably the most heavily-guarded individual on the planet. And at this point he interacts pretty much solely with people in government. Normal? Not.”
Obama is now heavily guarded because he’s president, whereas Rushbo is heavily guarded because he’s scared sack of blubber with a victim complex and delusions of grandeur.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:29 pm 105. Suzanne H:Did anyone but me see a bit of business involving BHO signing some document as his first official action? It was after the Bushes left DC in a helicopter and FOX news had some cameras going in various parts of the capitol…anyway, BHO is ushered into a room where there is a desk and somebody asks him to sign the document as the first piece of official business as POTUS. He sits down, grabs a pen in his left hand and says…
“I’m a Lefty…get used to it.”
He signs the document and the woman, who kept introducing various and sundry people at the Inaugration, looks down at the signature and coos “You have a very intriguing signature Mr. President.”
I think BHO told the world who he was at that moment.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:47 pm 106. goy:@Hurley/Troll: - You just admitted you were wrong
Not at all. And what’s more, you still haven’t answered the question up above, troll.
The point is that it was not private inductry that finally lifted us out of teh Depression
Uhm… yeah. It was. The government can’t pay for anything without getting the money from somewhere.
Private industry – driven by the war, to produce – was responsible for the recovery. That production – like all the other costs of the war – was paid for by taxpayers and war bond purchases. See above. Any way you slice it, the funding ultimately came from private enterprise or employment in a private enterprise.
What’s more, FDR’s policies made the Depression last longer than it would have without his socialist “New Deal” meddling.
@Steve P: Irrespective of the reasons for it, the comic irony in your original statement makes it pretty stupid. Don’t sweat it. Everyone embarrasses themselves at one point or another. You don’t respect anyone here enough to care anyway.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:49 pm 107. JB:“Obama is now heavily guarded because he’s president, whereas Rushbo is heavily guarded because he’s scared sack of blubber with a victim complex and delusions of grandeur.”
Right, because no controversial radio talk show host has ever been killed by a nut.
Jan 26, 2009 - 12:50 pm 108. Gary Ogletree:Dear Leader revealed his thin skin when he went after Joe the Plumber, ridiculing him for being a plumber, no less. And this from the champion of the proletariat. Watch him get nasty as even back bench Democrats point out that his mega pork extravaganza is a loser they don’t want to be associated with.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:07 pm 109. Bugs:He’s just playin to the crowd. Gotta let those angry leftists know he’s still their man.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:08 pm 110. Bugs:“What if Bush had said, don’t read the NY Times. How would the media have reacted? With rage and hysteria.”
Remember how they went completely berserk when Ari Fleischer made his remark that Americans need to “watch what they do and what they say?” Given the emotionally charged and partisan climate at the time, that was probably not a wise choice of words.
Same applies to Obama’s snotty little retorts – except that the leftists and the media (but I repeat myself) will give him a pass.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:16 pm 111. james:Not true. A Denver radio host was gunned down some years ago.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:22 pm 112. Steve P.:But pulling a gun is hardly the problem. The problem with liberals is perfectly summed up by Lenin himself, who called them Useful Idiots.
How many Obama voters know a) who Saul Alinsky was, and b) the powerful influence he exerts on Obama’s view (and Hillary’s too, by the way?) My guess: zero. Starting with you, JB.
JB: “Right, because no controversial radio talk show host has ever been killed by a nut.
Not surprisingly, the only talk radio host killed for his political views was a liberal. In 1984, two right wing extremists gunned down Denver talk show host Alan Berg.
Rush is too much of a coward to ever put himself in a position where he’d have to defend himself, or his positions, in a public setting.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:25 pm 113. austin troy:Nothing Obama has done or said so far has convinced me he is any smarter than 90 percent of the people I know.He has also convinced me his record as the most liberal senator was no fluke.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:33 pm 114. Mike2:100. db-20:
“Wow. Last time I follow a link to “pajamas”. clearly a pathetic crew of dead-enders.”
You promise?
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:33 pm 115. Wellspring:————————————–
Who is John Galt?
More to the point, why does he do this? He has the whole MSM reading his talking points in prime time, and an army of news columnists taking the partisan pot shots for him. If he stuck with the strategy from the campaign, he could take the high road, and count on MSNBC, CNN and the NYT to take low road for him.
So why leave his own fingerprints on the stiletto?
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:40 pm 116. thegre8_1:Elegant not he is a spoiled brat who has accomplished nothing. Look at pictures of him they are always below face level pointing up like he is above everything. Reality will set in I hope we are not France or who knows what in four years.
Also not reported Fitzgerald subpoenaed records from Axelrod, Jarrett, Emanuel, Rezco etc on Saturday go to American Thinker or Hotair and read about it.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:41 pm 117. getinformed:Uh, sorry JB, google Alan Berg!
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:46 pm 118. cheeflo:Paul B. — Michael Moore may not have said that, but he made in clear in myriad ways that he agreed with that sentiment.
It was Nicholas De Genova, a professor at Columbia University, who said in 2003 that he wanted to see the U.S. defeated in Iraq and suffer “a million Mogadishus.” He said this at a campus “teach-in” where he essentially was wishing death on the parents (who were serving in Iraq) of some of the students in his class.
He also said “The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military.”
This ivory-tower a-hole is typical of the Left. And, of late, the Democrats.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:53 pm 119. Robert Hurley:goy – Let me guess – You have a PhD from MIT and have studied economic policy all your life. Since you have contradicted yourself already, I don’t think I have to say anything else
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:57 pm 120. Steve P.:cheeflo: “Michael Moore may not have said that, but he made in clear in myriad ways that he agreed with that sentiment.”
So you lied in order to argue your point of view? Good for you.
Jan 26, 2009 - 1:59 pm 121. JLawson:There’s between 208 and 213 million registered voters.
70 million voted for Obama. That’s about 33%.
60 mil voted for McCain. That’s about 29%.
There were about 2 mil who voted for the other candidates. That’s less than 1%.
37% didn’t bother to vote at all. Indifferent, unconcerned, or whatever – they didn’t vote.
Obama won. But 33% isn’t a landslide, neither is it proof of a groundswell of unshakeable support for Obama. I’m willing to give him a chance (like we’ve got any real alternative, barring him bugging out off the office, in which case we get Pres. Biden and VP Pelosi – and if THAT doesn’t give you the shivers I don’t know what would…) but stuff like this, as Wellspring points out, shows Obama as being either careless about what he says or simply uncaring of any repercussions, figuring others will smooth it over for him.
He is not God. He isn’t king or a dictator, above question and responsibility. He’s the President – and WE are not his servants, he is ours.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:01 pm 122. avoidswork:Oh, the humanity! Obama calls out Limbagogas. Boo hoo.
Flip the coin and posit if Rachel Maddow had said on her radio show that she hopes Bush fails, the whining on the Right would have brought Boehner to tears (as does everything else).
FYI, I get “dissent”. But since Obama has been POtUS for, oh, like six days, I would say the outcries on the Right are a tad premature.
But, hey, if Limbag wants Obama to fail, then whoopty do for him.
Give him a few years, and he’ll be back to Oxy, wh*res and little blue pills from the Dominican Republic. Because a personal “member” of his “party” is failing…
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:11 pm 123. Delia:JLawson,
You said it better. Thank you.
He isn’t King or dictator? We shall see. He want’s to repeal some er…’things’ in the constitution.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:16 pm 124. kelly k:Obama is just his followers, writ large. As petty and narcisstic as a badly brought-up teenager. If you didn’t see this in him and Michelle during the campaign, you weren’t paying attention.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:16 pm 125. austin troy:I will moderate my statement.I know a lot of smart people.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:17 pm 126. austin troy:Obama`s idea to let the individual states formulate emission standards for cars is a real stroke of genius.Lend the “Big Three” automakers billions and then put a stake through their heart.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:24 pm 127. Orion:Considering that Obambi came literally out of nowhere and defeated not just John McCain but Hillary Clinton for the nomination in the first place a bit of hubris is understandable. But the moment is fleeting: He’ll have to work across the aisle to keep his programs on track or be ensnared in the same mess Bill Clinton was in 1993 when he tried to go it alone, w/o GOP support.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:25 pm 128. fear Obama:Jimmy Carters 1979 speech.
“crisis of confidence”:
We weren’t strong enough to make his policies work, so we were scolded for allowing ourselves to succumb to a “national malaise.”
I am beginning to realize that we can’t let people like Rush Limbaugh stall Obamas policies.
If we allow Obamas polices to fail,
We,
The American people, Republicans, and Rush Limbaugh have ourselves to blame.
I just cant wait to get back to work and pay more than my fair share of Joe Bidens 1 trillion dollars of Stimulating Patriotic taxes.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:26 pm 129. therealist:Rush is hated because he does such an excellent job of exposing the entire liberal philosophy as just a pseudo-intellectual justification for taking your income and giving it to whomever they think will give them the most money or votes.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:35 pm 130. Scott F.:Rush Limbaugh is drug addict, a college dropout, and a racist. This your modern GOP.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:42 pm 131. Delia:austin troy,
“Obama`s idea to let the individual states formulate emission standards for cars is a real stroke of genius.Lend the “Big Three” automakers billions and then put a stake through their heart.”
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Troy, I kid you not…I actually read “Joke of Genius”. rotfl
The lefty diatribe is so easy to dismantle. They should be afraid…very afraid.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:44 pm 132. boqueronman:Is it just my imagination or is the troll traffic getting pretty weak, in both volume and sharpness? Of course they are the intellectual equivalent of blind squirrels. But still, this post should have been red meat for them. Instead all we get is recent high school graduate Steve P and his notes from the Idiot’s Guide to Ad Hominem Attacks. Really sad and pathetic. We were all looking for a more challenging environment for the next four years and they’ve already descended to this.
Jan 26, 2009 - 2:45 pm 133. Marie Claude:“I hope we are not France”, I hope too !!!
Jan 26, 2009 - 3:20 pm 134. ReConUSMC:hey you already copied our wines in California,
STOP aux erzats, aux facsimile, aux counterfaitings of our products LMAO
John:
Jan 26, 2009 - 3:31 pm 135. kastaco:“Rush Limbaugh has just said that he’s hoping his president will fail, signifying that he’s more concerned with the resurgence of the Republican party and his own ratings than he is with the wellbeing of the country”
______________
John that is a Liberal Lie !
What Rush said was …I HEARD HIM 6 TIMES ……………… He wants Obama ………. ( racial Socialism ) to Fail .
Big Difference …… and So does most of Americans . 9 ” Issues Obama has come out with so Far Completely Change America MOVING TOWARD SOCIALISM AT LIGHTING SPEED .
Obama Change no one though would be racial Socialist / Marxist based .
To # 62 Robert Hurley
Jan 26, 2009 - 3:32 pm 136. Delia:When Obamas policies are actually enacted, you will undoubtedly return the the light. When liberals experience enough pain they won’t be liberal any more. It is unfortunate in the extreme that the rest of us will have to experience the same pain as you. At that point you’ll know who John Gault is
132. boqueronman,
The grasping, unstable posts speak volumes of the “opposition”…no?
If nothing else, the Sunny-B trolling bolsters courage that the ‘rest of us’ who didn’t vote this poser in are forming a solid base.
As corny as it sounds, when I found this place I was like, “Yes! My people! At last!”
Jan 26, 2009 - 3:35 pm 137. Blacque Jacques Shellacque:You know that icon in the upper left corner of this page by the date? Every time I see a picture of the guy in a pose like that, the name “Benito Mussolini” runs through my head.
Jan 26, 2009 - 3:53 pm 138. Dotar Sojat:The Obamas are the Perons, and we will become Argentina, and will be no better off.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:09 pm 139. Kathy L.:If our U.S. economy is in such dire straits, why are we sending OUR tax dollars overseas to help women over there to get abortions?
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:10 pm 140. Rachel Peepers:Let’s face it, if discourtesy, meanness, nastiness, rudeness, hatefulness and, maybe, above all, ungraciousness would win the war on terrorism, America, with Obama at the helm, would be home free.
In point of fact, though, Obama not only doesn’t possess the qualities of moral courage and unbridled commitment capable of leading a country to wartime victory, but, instead of setting his sights on terrorists the world over out to destroy our way of life, Mister Obama has marshalled his forces and is waging a domestic, totally uncivil, civil war on a little less than half the country. People who don’t agree with him.
Sad but true. Obama views his real enemies as not the terrorists who vow to kill innocent Americans, but the innocent Americans themselves who exercise their God endowned, constitution given freedoms of speech and thought.
He isn’t targeting our country’s economic crisis; he’s no longer monitoring terrorist phone calls made within and without the United States. No.
He’s targeting Republicans and conservatives who refuse to jump on the Obama bandwagon.
Why else would he use his bully pulpit to excoriate a conservative radio host? “Don’t listen to him”, Barack exorts Republicans. “Either you’re with me or against me. “Don’t listen anyone behind a conservative microphone.” Apparently to the brown eyed handsome man the first ten amendments don’t apply if one refuses to apply to the Barack school of hero worship.
What a warped, misplaced sense of self Barack must have; “I am the end all and be all to correctness. Conservatives, if you don’t police your own ideas, my thought police be be knocking at your doors.” How can such a magnificently intelligent mind be so warped?
Friends, the bottom line. if you’re not a card carrying Obama fanatic, if you don’t toe the line, Barack is at war with you.
Unfortunately, under the direction of Rham, Dave Axelrod and hapless Harry Reid, Mister Obama is of the notion that, seeing as though the Republican Party is down and almost out, the thing to do now is to jam a hobnail boot on the proveribal neck of the Republican body politic until the great Obama hears the Party’s final last gasp.
What incredibly escapes many Americans is that this is no way to run a country. We’re based on a two party system, not a populace that kneels down the the feet of the ledo, kissing the brass ring he won that’s known as the Presidency of the United States.
So far I’ve talked about Barack’s intentions. Waging war on almost half the American electorate.
Here’s why he’ll fail. Here’s why the American electorate will one day join forces and figuratively hang Barack out to dry.
To begin with, his black cover will wear thin. The idea that if you attack Barack you’re a racist. Like a bold faced lie held up to the light of reason, it will one day lose its punch.
The fact that Barack is a verbal bully with the character of a paper lion will one day become clear as
high definition TV. The unamericanness of defining himself as right and anyone who disagrees as wrong will come into everyman’s focus.
In the end, actions speak louder than words. And, when cornered, the brown eyed handsome man is capable of being frozen in fear like a deer in headlights.
He can only say, “Let me make this clear” so many times. He can rely on a corrupt media for only so long. Being the first black President will not offer complete protection from naysayers forever.
One day the ethical pendulum will swing. One day when the bell tolls, not just Republicans and conservatives will hear it.
Barack is a western TV town that’s all facade and no substance. He’s the frontman of a backboneless Democratic Party.
He talks the talk, but one day, when he’s expected to walk the walk, he’ll stumble and fall right on his pretty face.
Barack is Winston Churchill, without the Sword and Juno; with no victorious battle of Britain. Barack is Hitler with no September 1, 1939. Barack is George Washington with no crossing of the Delaware. He’s Davey Crockett with no valiant defense of the Alamo. He’s Joe Namath without the arm. Tiger Woods without the swing.
Barack is a hybrid wordsmith and verbal bully who can’t believe so many people fail to realize that his “let me make this clear” rhetoric is simply that; rhetoric.
He’s a paper tiger posessing an uncanny ability to roar like a lion; deliver the kind of beautifully crafted, highly persuasive speeches that has an army of psychofants including the mainstream media jumping up and down with glee like schoolgirls with front row seats on August 15, 1965 at Shea Stadium.
B. Obaman has the charisma of a Beatle and the ego of Donald Trump. He is like a good actor who landed the role of President of the United States. But when his closest advisors talk about him on the golf course, it becomes very clear that they, too, realize Barack is just playing a part. He’s a great magician’s illusion.
However, the ability to pull the wool over 54% of the voting public’s eyes does not a President make.
For someday the rubber will meet the road. Things will get sandpaper tough. When decisive action and nothing less is needed, the house of cards that is Barack Obama will fold like one. The facade that is Barack Obama will fall like a blind roofer.
One day, my friends, when action is needed, when mere words no longer suffice, and Barack is frozen like a floodlit deer, he’ll sit on his stool in his frightened corner of the world, like a February 25, 1964, Ali-beaten Sonny Liston complaining an aching backbone is the reason he can’t get up.
That’s when the lemming-like rats aboard the USS Obama will start jumping ship, and the hapless, spineless Barack will busy himself rearranging the proverbial deck chairs on the Titanic. And, like you can’t find a grown up hippie these days who’ll admit to spitting on a GI in an airport who just got home from the Vietnam war, in time no one will admit to being mesmerized by the Obama spell. The psychofants will crawl into their Hollywood, New York, metropolitan holes, never to be heard from again.
Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama lives in a world where words always speak louder than actions. The problem with that belief is that sometimes tyrants and terrorists are often deaf when it comes to words; only understand something as compelling as the tip of a bayonet.
If great speeches could win the war on terrorism, America would be home free. If Obama truly believes that making war on Republicans and conservatives is the way to final victory, the only victory Sir Obama will ever taste will be a pyrric one.
Great men are destined to accomplish great things. File the Obama administration, hatefilled, humorless and graciousness challenged as it is under D. Not for Democratic. D as in doomed.
To defeat.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:15 pm 141. NMSC:This is what happens when the media sensors almost everything damaging or negative about a candidate for nearly two years – he himself begins to believe he’s invincible and practically without critics (except of course that tiny segment of Limbaugh listeners.) There are quite a few democrats who don’t like Obama either but of course they are completely invisible in this media. I think the poll numbers are a media creation as well, by the way. This presidency is like one, big, long Axelrod Astroturfing scheme.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:17 pm 142. goy:@Hurley/Troll: Let me guess – You have a PhD from MIT and have studied economic policy all your life.
You guessed wrong. Sorry. Reading minds is not your strong suit.
Since you have contradicted yourself already, …
Not at all. But you have yet to answer the question up above, troll.
… I don’t think I have to say anything else
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:29 pm 143. seven:This last part is true. But not in the way you think. You certainly don’t need to post anything (else) to make clear that you’re a troll.
So why did Michelle Obama get disbarred as a lawyer in 1993? No body attacks her for her loss/transgressions.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:29 pm 144. Anonymous:Huh. Rush Limbaugh has risen to Obama’s challenge, by proposing a bipartisan stimulus plan. This is actually worth reading.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012609/content/01125108.guest.html
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:34 pm 145. Tex Taylor:Honest Obe has three weaknesses that God bestowed every lib.
(1) Juvenile humor
(2) Arrogance and patronizing manner
(3) The inability to be laughed at.
And that is exactly where we need to do to this charlatan wearing the empty suit – laugh at him by going on the offensive at every gaffe, every screw up, every dumb move.
If he can’t handle Limbaugh’s jabs, imagine what 50 million Republicans continually mocking him for the next 48 months will do. He’ll be speaking in tongues about this time next year.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:35 pm 146. goy:@Rachel P: a tiny nit: …constitution given…. The Constitution gives nothing – it formally recognizes existing rights, forming a contract that is renewed with each generation and with each President who takes an oath to protect and defend it, reaffirming the existence of those rights.
Outside of this, I’m afraid your observations are largely correct. And I’m sure I don’t have to mention that this derangement against half of America didn’t begin (nor is it likely to end) with BHO. It’s been the same with virtually every great civilization in the past. Each has reached a tipping point where the moral adolescents begin to outnumber the adults. Decline ensues, again and again, because we cannot remember history. I wonder if this time will be different.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:44 pm 147. Still Bill:His Fullness Barack Obama,the emperor who has no clothes, is worried about Rush Limbaugh? Well, I’m worried about all the Obama shills in the MSM at CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, Time, Newsweek, the New York Times, the Washington Post, etc. If you got the whole group of these people together in one auditorium, you’d probably be able to count the real journalists on the fingers of one hand. What is needed in this country are a lot more real journalists who expect and demand honest answers from politicians regardless of party affiliation, and a lot fewer of the Obama posterior-kissing syncophants we now have.
Jan 26, 2009 - 4:52 pm 148. thomas:I hope Rush sends Mr. Obama a thank you card. Free ammunition? Such serendipity!
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:15 pm 149. Ann141:May as well go on record and beat the rush:
I, also, do not want Bambi to succeed.
I want his policies to fail. There.
I am in favor of free market capitalism.
I will support and defend the Constitution.
And may God have mercy on us all if Bambi does “succeed”. Our children will never be able to dig out.
Unbelievable.
Destroying a country is far easier than building one, and he is demonstrating that. When we can start impeachment proceedings?
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:28 pm 150. Delia:“142″
Goy, why are taking up the cross for Hurley? Are you both one and the same.
It must be lonely in your little leftwing world.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:40 pm 151. Princess:BHO is a big jerk.
I am counting the days.
Good God, thank you so much libbies for this national disaster
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:49 pm 152. cedarford:Jabbing at Bush? Bashing Rush Limbaugh? So much for elevating the tone in Washington.
The danger, as the Presidential Administration sees it, is that articulate Presidents with a well-oiled counter attack machine (FDR, Reagan, Clinton) survive….while the Carters and Dubyas are inarticulate, lack defenses, and are made bitches.
Nixon at least had the excuse that the progressive Jewish-dominated media at the time WAS out to get him for his work in prosecuting Soviet Union-loyal Jews and a few uppercrust Gentiles like Alger Hiss.
Clinton and Reagan were able to defend themselves against political enemy partisans and either the Reagan-hating MSM or the rabid right wing talk radio folks out to impeach Clinton over a BJ.
Obama and his people are not going to let themselves be punked like Dubya was, even if there is some truth to the accusations…they will not permit themselves to become a bitch like Dubya and Carter did.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:52 pm 153. Swen Swenson:50% of the population is, by definition, below average. 52% of the voters voted for Oh? Coincidence? I think not.
Jan 26, 2009 - 5:57 pm 154. goy:- Are you both one and the same.
No doubt Hurley/Troll wishes that were true.
Plus, I think you may have misread.
Or maybe the wine is kicking in…
Jan 26, 2009 - 6:07 pm 155. Pat J:Limbaugh’s like the fat buddha for wingnuts. I’m certain many of the posters here make a regular pilgrimage to the EIB network to rub his belly for good luck.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:01 pm 156. Delia:152. Swen Swenson
50% of the population is, by definition, below average.
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Oh, honey. Please tell me you accidentally walked into that ONE.
*cough*
Here is the sum of your constituents:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrJE7J3fWU
“Garbage.” “Bridge Dwellers.” “Trolls.”
Say it with me, your barackover won’t be quite so painful if you face the truth now before you have to flush/wash/repeat.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:44 pm 157. Delia:“154
Limbaugh’s like the fat buddha for wingnuts.
Pat, how come you have the right to sling shallow-isms but if I call the first lady an eye bulging demonoid then I’m a raaaaaaaaaaacisttttttttttttttt? Please. Clarify. Because, frankly, I can appreciate your emotive conjecture and I don’t judge your rants based upon my own personal ideology.
IF and that’s a BIG “IF” this is the new dawn of a new era of newwwwy feely goodness, I sure as frick ain’t feelin’ it yet.
Oh wait…
I didn’t drink the Sunny-B.
My bad.
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:50 pm 158. tomd:“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”
Jan 26, 2009 - 7:59 pm 159. tomd:(Dr. Adrian Rogers 1931 to 2005)
#121 JLawson
“barring him bugging out off the office, in which case we get Pres. Biden and VP Pelosi – and if THAT doesn’t give you the shivers I don’t know what would…)
Please don’t put any thoughts into Pelosi’s head. Who freaking knows what goes on inside that woman’s mind…..err well she must have a mind somewhere in there, maybe..
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:07 pm 160. Alana:–As corny as it sounds, when I found this place I was like, “Yes! My people! At last!”–
Me, too, Delia. This place and a bunch of others, too.
I probably would have found them earlier, but I had to get shocked out of my senses first, by leftist attitudes, in order to get interested in politics enough to look for them.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:36 pm 161. Horace Wells:Hey its good to see all you small minds rallying behind your leader, Rush. Concepts like irony and hypocrisy mean nothing to you I guess.
Jan 26, 2009 - 8:52 pm 162. GFM:The lack of grace in Obama bespeaks a lack of maturity in leadership. He condescends to most of America and 52% of them have no idea that he is doing so. I agree with Bob Woodward. The scandals will begin and they will beyond illegal nannies and tax cheats becoming Treasury Secretary and adding pork to a so-called stimulus package. The scandals will be a result of hubris. He thinks he is a prince, not a president.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:03 pm 163. Jim Baker:I see Robert the Hurley has lifted several of his tired comments from other threads and plunked them in here. I see young Steve P, the recently converted Democrat because they are right on the economy more often, is back as well. Why don’t you boys go to another website to post? I know one reader who won’t mind the loss of your succinct commentary, boys. But Robert, you have yet to call us microcephallic idiots. There are still a few more cool and insulting names you can lift from tdk, or even the puffington host.
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:05 pm 164. avoidswork:@141: Oh, you are right. Bush tanked us in just a handful of years…
As we are pretty much feeding from the bottom right now, Obama has the chance of bringing us up.
Hope – Day #6-#7
Jan 26, 2009 - 9:43 pm 165. Wahine:#144 — thank you for posting that link. Rush’s response is brilliant!
Jan 26, 2009 - 11:01 pm 166. Delia:Alan [right on, sista...black velvet in that little boy smileeeeeeee].
Ahem. I kinda hafta laugh at the Rush-isms. Yes, the man looks like a suckling pig. Barack looks like a fricking chimp. Chimp for the chumps. Oh wait? That’s raaaaaaaaaaaaaacist. Oy vey.
Anyhoodle.
I don’t hate our new prezzident. I hate/abhore/can’t stand his policies [the few moobs has actually stuck to].
Time will tell.
-But, each day, the obamanation keeps gettin’ funnier. I don’t even have to hand-stir the kool-aid muhself no more.
Looky! No hands! Magik!
Huh? What? I didn’t steal anything! You gave it willingly!
Pennyyyyyyyy for your thoughtsssssss.
*innocent look*
Jan 27, 2009 - 12:09 am 167. Barry:Obama’s a narcissist. It’s starting to show. As long as he has the lapdog media, he might pull it off. If he gets any negative coverage, the mask will slip. I also can’t wait for Michelle to scold us for not believing in everything Obama does with sufficient fervor.
And as for Obumble’s economics, he seems to be following the old maxim: ‘when robbing Peter to pay Paul, one can always count on Paul’s vote’.
Jan 27, 2009 - 12:34 am 168. vivo:“Jabbing at Bush? Bashing Rush Limbaugh? So much for elevating the tone in Washington.”
People will bash at Bush forever. His “sincere” mistakes killed thousands of people, shot the financial markets, emboldened the Muslim reactionaries, spent 30% of his tenure in vacation and lied to his countrymen.
Rush Limbaugh? All he does is make millions of dollars talking to creepy rednecks who worship in churches while breaking all the moral rules.
But now it’s Obama bashing time . . . Enjoy while you can.
Jan 27, 2009 - 2:14 am 169. goy:@vivo:- People will bash at Bush forever. His “sincere” mistakes killed thousands of people …
Judging by the lack of supporting facts accompanying fantastical revisions of history like this one, it’s clear that some people will lie about Bush, in order to bash him, forever.
Jan 27, 2009 - 6:04 am 170. Ann141:It’s interesting to observe that Freedom of Speech is increasingly and openly being threatened and limited.
1. In Holland, a filmmaker is apparently going to be tried for his documentary on Islam, and the courts of Holland are rolling over for the community Islamic terrorists.
2. Last year, Doofus Harry Reid tried to get the Senate to censure Rush Limbaugh.
3. obama has instructed the Republicans not to listen to Rush any more.
4. Rush, exercising his Freedom of Speech, is mocked for exercising it and is called names by those who do not want him to have Freedom of Speech. (And yet the libs, who are tried again and again to exercise similar talk radio Freedom of Speech, which is their right, can’t get enough people to listen to them to make it pay)
5. And we are called names simply for exercising Freedom of Speech in threads such as these.
Do you liberal mouthpieces really think we have to ASK you or something?…before we express ourselves? I’m beginning to be intrigued by the actual premises of your behavior and your thoughts.
I’m not going to spend much effort or time on it, because I know who you are generally, but it’s obvious you have no idea how your generally foulmouthed, poorly stated, repetitious, vicious namecalling comes across….or you do know, and you just don’t care. I think the latter is more likely. I don’t think you just recently became rude and thoughtless and stupid. I suspect you’ve been that way for most of your life and this just gives you a new avenue for expressing it.
Oh well, it’s a good opportunity for us to get used to being called names for exercising personal freedom. It’s just the beginning since one of you is the POTUS now.
Jan 27, 2009 - 6:42 am 171. goy:@Ann141: It’s fear. Fear explains all 5 of the observations in your list.
Freedom of speech is the biggest threat to the manic aims of the morally adolescent left because simply thinking through the issues rationally – using facts and history as a context – exposes the flaws in their policies and behaviors. The self-evident reason these people have for wanting to shut anyone up – via censure, the “Fairness” *cough* Doctrine or desperate comments like BHO’s about Rush – is because they fear what will happen if these folks are allowed to express their ideas.
The same goes for Radical Islam – and those who fear its reprisals more than they fear the loss of freedoms and self-determination that sharia demands. On that subject, BTW, PJTV isn’t doing the world any favors by restricting this video to subscribers only. Doesn’t everyone need to see this? How this is any different from the failed TimesSelect?
Jan 27, 2009 - 7:22 am 172. c:You all sound a lot like I did when Bush II won a contoversial election back in 2000. At least you can’t complain about dirty dealings that lead to the election of Obama.
I feel for you because I felt the same way 8 years ago. I have come to the conclusion that in order to want to lead the free world, you must have an ego. Bush had one, Clinton had one, Bush I had one, Reagan had one …. The very qualities that make for strong leadership are the same qualities that make people jerks. The difference between Obama’s arogance and Bush’s is the fact that you hate Obama.
Jan 27, 2009 - 8:01 am 173. Steve P.:When Bush stomped around yelling “I’m the decider!” and “I’ve earned political capital, and I intend to spend it!” you all cheered at how tough and courageous he was for sticking to his guns and not allowing liberals to get in his way.
When Obama does the same thing, you call him “arrogant.”
Hypocrites.
Jan 27, 2009 - 8:31 am 174. goy:@Steve P: - When Bush stomped around yelling “I’m the decider!” and “I’ve earned political capital, and I intend to spend it!” you all cheered…
Really? Cheered?? Cite? Anything??
You’ve provided no evidence whatsoever that there was any “stomping” involved. Or yelling, either.
Sounds like you made all this up.
Jan 27, 2009 - 8:46 am 175. Paul - Indiana:In watching and listening to Obama throughout the campaign and especially since he was sworn in, I have come to the conclusion that Obama’s White half is a reincarnated ‘White Overseer’.
Jan 27, 2009 - 8:46 am 176. tanstaafl:An incisive summary…
A victory for the hysterical Oprah Winfrey, the mad racist preacher Jeremiah Wright, the US mainstream media who abandoned any sense of objectivity long ago, Europeans who despise America largely because they depend on her, comics who claim to be dangerous and fearless but would not dare attack genuinely powerful special interest groups. A victory for Obama-worshippers everywhere. A victory for the cult of the cult…Victory for style over substance, hyperbole over history, rabble-raising over reality…A victory for Hollywood , the most dysfunctional community in the world…Victory for a man who is no friend of freedom. He and his people have already stated that media has to be controlled so as to be balanced, without realizing the extraordinary irony within that statement…A victory for those who believe the state is better qualified to raise children than the family, for those who prefer teachers’ unions to teaching and for those who are naively convinced that if the West is sufficiently weak towards its enemies, war and terror will dissolve as quickly as the tears on the face of a leftist celebrity…A victory for intrusive lawyers, banal sentimentalists, social extremists and urban snobs.
LONDON DAILY MAIL editorial: On Obama’s victory
Jan 27, 2009 - 8:47 am 177. Big Red:Actually, Rush has lost a lot of weight. Alas, for his critics I’m afraid Ron White said it best, “you can’t fix stupid.”
Jan 27, 2009 - 8:53 am 178. Robert Hurley:Ann141 – Saying your shouldn’t listen to nonsense is not restricting freedom of speech. One of the great things about this country is that you or Rush or any other wingnut can say anything you want any place no matter how little you understand . The idea that Obama is going to restrict your free speech is ludicrous. I think it is great you are contributing to the discussion though I don’t think you really understand the issues
Jan 27, 2009 - 8:58 am 179. Jbl:When Bush stomped around yelling “I’m the decider!” and “I’ve earned political capital, and I intend to spend it!” you all cheered at how tough and courageous he was for sticking to his guns and not allowing liberals to get in his way. When Obama does the same thing, you call him “arrogant.”
That was after Bush actually HAD earned political capital and had taken the war to the terrorists. After he’d actually, you know…DONE SOMETHING.
A distinction is a distinction.
Jan 27, 2009 - 9:05 am 180. tanstaafl:Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.
~Albert Einstein.
Then, I thought of General Honoré in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina and that wonderful phrase he used on a reporter…
You are stuck on stupid
Jan 27, 2009 - 9:06 am 181. deguello:Robert Hurley: Another patronizing lib,upset that people will resist Obama’s attempt to morph into hugo Chavez.The idea that the mobocrats and Obama are NOT going to restrict free speech could only be held by a real wingnut,a dissembling seminar blogger, or an out of work moderate republican Mcain supporter. Which one of those are you Bob?
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:03 am 182. Steve P.:Jbl: “That was after Bush actually HAD earned political capital and had taken the war to the terrorists. After he’d actually, you know…DONE SOMETHING.
A distinction is a distinction.”
That’s a poor distinction. Bush claimed that he had gained political capital because he won re-election, not because of how the War was going. The War was going pretty poorly by 2004. The Taliban was back in power in Afhganistan and Baghdad was a bloodbath.
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:09 am 183. deguello:Vivo 168: your AnaLysis of Rush Limbaugh’s work,begins with the letterA and ends with the letter L.Now I know where your political inspiration comes from .
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:09 am 184. shrubnose:Rush Limbaugh will not lead the GOP to victory. Obama gave some good advice about him. But, since rapidly changing demographics favor the Democratic party, I believe the the Dems majority will gradually increase. Eventually the GOP will be a regional party, with no national power. To avoid this, the GOP would have to change – a lot . But then, it would not be the GOP . Looks like to me like the GOP is in a hole and steady digging. Lincoln must be rolling over in his grave !
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:10 am 185. Ann141:You name-calling libs need to realize that we who disagree with you, and are hated by you, are simply practicing our personal freedoms, including freedom of speech.
Deal with it. I can understand that your rising fear as you discover we will no longer just hunker down and wait for the RINOs to develop a spine.
Under the Constitution of the United States of America we have the right to speak our opinions without fear of government, and we intend to keep it that way.
Your worst nightmare: a bunch of bitter clingers who won’t shut up. Deal with it.
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:11 am 186. Steve P.:deguello: “Another patronizing lib,upset that people will resist Obama’s attempt to morph into hugo Chavez.The idea that the mobocrats and Obama are NOT going to restrict free speech could only be held by a real wingnut,a dissembling seminar blogger, or an out of work moderate republican Mcain supporter. Which one of those are you Bob?
Mobocrats? Seriously? You can’t formulate any clear coherent argument so you resort to gossipping like a 14-year-old girl about how Obama will restrict free speech. But you got no facts to back it up.
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:15 am 187. deguello:What have you got against 14 year old girls?The average 14 year old girl knows far more about politics than you do.Gossiping?You seem to be fixated on chauvinist ideas about female adolescents.Caution here Stevie: your special ed. teacher probably belongs to NOW.
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:40 am 188. David S:Obama speaks the truth, warning R’s that listening to Rush will rot their brains and fill their heads with nonsense.
Stop with the whining and complaining – Barry is trying to help you fools!
Or don’t, and keep driving the GOP into the ditch. You’re getting very good at it. After all, the GOP has never made any mistakes, right?
Peace.
DS
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:48 am 189. Mama Hurley:Robert, my lumpkin, you know you promised to bring your homework to me or your Pa before submitting it. The neighbors a whispering again that you’re making the whole family look silly.
Not that Mama is trying to spoil your fun or anything, but really, sweetheart, do try to get outside for a while each day. You know we discussed that this endless wandering of the halls of PJM was not good for your, um, Condition, that repeatedly poking your head in each room, all day long, gets everyone asking me if you’re actually taking your medications as promised.
Now don’t get angry, my dumpling, you know Mama worries that you’ll relapse, again. I gotta go tend the hogs, so only have time to fix #32 for you today. Kisses
[Obama is the perfect tool for the nutroots. He has no familiarity with any incovenient facts. He readily distorts truth. Lately his retoric has more in common with the terrorists than loyal Americans.]
Jan 27, 2009 - 11:32 am 190. Self-hating Boomer:Meebee we need to stop feeding the ‘bots?
Jan 27, 2009 - 12:12 pm 191. SilentWatcher:I’ve long thought that Obama is totally déclassé. I did not vote for him; his inaugural address guarantees that I’ll never lose the key to my brain and do so either. To my mind, Obama is a small and petty man trying to fill the shoes of a gentle and generous giant.
Jan 27, 2009 - 12:41 pm 192. Irina:Wow, I hope someone here bought some cheese for all this whine goin on here!! Whaah Whaah, Obama is a communist Whah Whah impeach him!! Whaaaahhhh
I am getting a kick out of these comments though.
Jan 27, 2009 - 12:50 pm 193. pappy:Miss Peepers,b.o. has surrounded himself with a team of lackies that will do his dirty work while he pulls the strings. the msm and a press secretary that says he can do no wrong and won’t admit it if he does, seems like the beginning of large problems for the country.
Jan 27, 2009 - 12:57 pm 194. shrubnose:At 57. Scott F. posts ” Yes, 52% is a majority. ” Actually Obama won with 52.9% of popular vote (365 electoral votes), McCain lost with 45.67% of popular vote (173 electoral votes) and 1.41% of popular vote went to minor party candidates.Obama had a 7.25% margin (9 1/2 million) in popular votes and 192 more electoral votes. This election was NOT close. The American people have sent a strong message to the GOP – ” We do not like what you have done to OUR country !” Contrast the 2008 results to the 2000 and 2004 elections where Mr Bush ended up in the White House under strong suspicion of election theft . The GOP has a stark choice – it must eiter change or become a minor, regional party. But, if it changes – it will not be the GOP . The GOP will continue to live in interesting times as it slowly fades away like the Cheshire cat in Alice in Wonderland, eventually leaving only an evil grin as a reminder that it ever existed .
Jan 27, 2009 - 1:43 pm 195. Big Red:194. Dems think every election they lose was stolen. So, when the Obamagic wears off, what’s your new plan? How about a Hispanic, lesbian abortionist who’s mother was a wiccan? Gotta cover all bases. Seriously though, every party ebbs and flows. Now the GOP must get its act together and shed its Rino baggage, which it will. In a few years your side will be looking to dump Reid, Pelosi and the other freaks that will come to define you in the electorate’s minds. Plus there is always the unexpected.
Jan 27, 2009 - 4:13 pm 196. Floradora:” We do not like what you have done to OUR country !”
Ah, liberal logic. Can you honestly say that the DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED CONGRESS since ‘06 [notwithstanding Carter & Clinton's Community Reinvestment Act] is *not* almost completely responsible for the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac collapse…[hint Frank, Dodd, etc]? Do you really believe that? I’m sure you do. I’ll answer my own question so as to save what few brain cells you have. It is this collapse that has triggered the downfall of the entire economy…and it rests almost solely in the Dems laps. You own it, so deal with it. So what has been “done to OUR country” has been done by your own idiot party. But again, don’t waste your brain cells using any rational thought.
Jan 27, 2009 - 5:25 pm 197. avoidswork:Um, Floradora, you may want to do a tad bit more research rather than regurgitating “Fannie/Freddie caused it all!” ((insert dramatic pose here))
A whole lotta folks were involved in the downfall of our economy; Fannie/Freddie came in much later. Of course, being a fervent whiner of the “F/F!”, you could never concede that Dems/Repubs were all complicit in the crises. To include the fact that no one was really listening when warning bells were going off.
So, yeah, Floradora, I *can* honestly say that your allegation is false. Below are two separate “lists” with the same themes: whole lotta players involved in our economic downfall.
Here’s one list from Factcheck.org:
The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.
Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.
Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.
Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.
The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.
Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.
Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.
Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.
The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.
An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.
Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.
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Here’s another list from http://www.rgemonitor.com/financemarkets-monitor/254030/the_us_financial_crisis_a_misunderstanding_of_the_top_causes
Imprecise regulatory law allowed the financial institutions to carry too high a ratio of mortgage-backed securities to collateralized debt.
Banking regulators should have screamed louder earlier regarding the ratio of assets to debt! Although there are many documented attempts from specific people that did warn of this problem it was more a whisper than a scream.
New accounting regulations under Sarbanes Oxley (regulation passed after Enron) are too conservative causing assets like mortgage-related securities to be valued less than their economic value (true worth), which caused the bank debtor run on the bank.
Private lenders (and their CEOs) got greedy either lowering or violating their own lending standards in hopes of making more interest income by loaning to people who were very risk bets.
Households borrowed more than they could afford. Citizens that borrowed need to share the blame with lenders, although I place lenders at a higher standard than borrowers.
New law had been passed several years ago, urging institutions like Fannie Mae to make more loans to lower income households that carried much more risk.
Jan 27, 2009 - 7:47 pm 198. Rachel Peepers:Pappy,
They’re a bunch of bad boys all right, but don’t you mind.
If this country can defeat evil incarnate, like Adolf, Benito and Tojo, we can overcome a two bit, tin horn pipsqueak whose only claim to fame is being able to give a speech, and being in the right place at the right time.
If necessary, Rush will go on Fox TV, transmit over the internet, free, or if his radio stations break their contracts with him, Rush will switch to satellite radio.
In other words, Rush has his options.
There’s more than one way to skin a Demorat.
Pappy, honey, stick with me, and we’ll weather this obamainable fiasco. Just keep your chinny chin up, your chest out and your flag flying. Mark my words, Barry mania is gonna be an abject failure. And go down like every bum/bully who ever wondered into a kitchen too hot for his backbone. He’s just a bum from the neighborhood who’s going down to ignominious defeat. A little man with big ambitions destined for the trash heap of history.
Hapless Harry Reid, niggardly Nancy Piglosi and birth certificateless Barry O. are all in water over their head, drowning in a sea of arrogance.
Jan 27, 2009 - 10:30 pm 199. vivo:Rachel
183. deguello:
“Vivo 168: your AnaLysis of Rush Limbaugh’s work,begins with the letterA and ends with the letter L.”
Typical comment by a creepy redneck.
You’re right, Limbo goes from A to L when he talks to his petrified audience.
Jan 28, 2009 - 4:31 am 200. shrubnose:At post 195, I see that Big Red knows the GOP (Greed Over Principles party) has a problem. His solution !? = More of the same, plus – get rid of all those who are not “True Believers”. Some of the GOPers are not spreading the “Hate and Fear” mantra hard and fast enough . They have to go. Only the true fanatics will survive in the “NEW” GOP. I will wait and see how this works out when rapidly changing demographics strongly favor the Democratic party. Why would (or should) the Democrats change ANYTHING they are doing ? They are beating the GOP everywhere-No need to change . The GOP will soon be history . I wonder what President Lincoln would say about all this ? Buh-bye GOP. Have a nice day.
Jan 28, 2009 - 7:03 am 201. deguello:VIVO Wow Vivo! Words like” petrifed” and “creepy”!Clearly your special ed.reading remediation teacher,is working hard!Here’s a new word she can teach you:IRONY it’s when someone with a brain as dead as yours, can call themselves ‘vivo’!
Jan 28, 2009 - 1:35 pm 202. deguello:Shrubnose; Nice bit of wishful thinking,BTW how did you get the handle?Tried to stick your nose up Bush’s rectum?
Jan 29, 2009 - 5:22 am 203. shrubnose:202.deguello. Very interesting comment.I guess you do not agree with me. That is your problem. I am happy with where the Democratic Party is now. In the near future, the GOP will be a regional party, with NO national power. And you GOPers will have done this to youself ! Not me. Not anyone but YOU ! Thank yourself for the mess you are in . Have a nice day .
Jan 29, 2009 - 9:56 am 204. Robohobo:“We are seeing, I think, the unlimited hubris of a candidate enjoying sky-high poll ratings and media adoration who believes he owes his opponents only civility, but not respect.”
Go to Ali Sina’s writing on Obama at Faith Freedom and read what he thinks. Obama is a pathological narcissist.
Jan 29, 2009 - 11:28 am 205. deguello:Shrubnose,the Republican party will rebuild and win :remember goldwater”s defeat in 1964?Keep dreaming about our premature demise;after Obama fails,dreams are all you will have. Have a nice nap!
Jan 29, 2009 - 3:31 pm 206. shrubnose:205.deguello Yes, I remember Goldwater – I voted for him ! The world was a different place then. My politics at that time were shaped by the cold war. Two years before that election, I spent a few days in the forest in Bavaria near the Czech border. The world was lucky, Krushchev backed down. But, I digress. – This is from a current AP article by Liz Sidoti (well known GOP shill ) ” The results of the two recent elections are real, and so are the obstacles we face as a party” Senator Mitch McConnell, R-KY, told the RNC on Thursday ” My concern is that unless we do something to adapt, our status as a minority party may become too pronounced for an easy recovery.” WOW , I have tried to tell you GOPers this. You did not want to believe me. There it is from the top Senate Republican . But wait – There’s more ! McConnell’s cure for the GOP’s problems ? Be more conservative, more GOP ! I am sure that will work out great – more of the same, only do it harder . I was laughing so hard when I read that, I scared my dog . The GOP has a serious problem .Ignoring it will not make it go away. I have noticed quite a few GOP congress people are retiring to spend more time with family, etc.. A word to the wise – When you see the Captain on your ship running around with a life jacket on, you should find YOUR life jacket quick ! Have a nice day and a wonderful life.
Jan 29, 2009 - 4:34 pm 207. Lily:Why would he do this? Because, he is not the man people seem to think he is – he is not the elegant person you describe. I believe I twice saw him on TV ‘flipping off’ his opponents. Class? No.
Jan 29, 2009 - 5:37 pm 208. shrubnose:207. Lily: I totally agree with you. I have video of Mr GW Bu$h “flipping people off”. That IS somewhat crude ! But no worse than his boss Dick Cheney telling a US Senator TO “Go f#ck youself” But, I guess when Cheney shot his ex-buddy in the face, that said it all ! Last time THAT guy disrespects him. WORD !!…. Bush/Cheney,…Iraq, Katrina.Gitmo,Wall Street meltdown, CIA torture-they totally did it all! And now they are gone, and living high on the hog . And you and me are picking up the fee ! Total slackers, living large. Gotta luv-em.
Jan 30, 2009 - 2:04 pm 209. moobs:I think you have miss-understood something,There is no way Obama will attepmt to get rid of or even liit free speach. But keep rockin the boat,the world needs people like you.
Aug 18, 2009 - 3:37 pm