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	<title>Comments on: Old Enough to Fight, Old Enough to Drink</title>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/old-enough-to-fight-old-enough-to-drink/comment-page-2/#comment-99060</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time I was on a military base, they COULD drink alcohol at age 18.  At least in the military clubs.

I suppose that could have changed.

This was in San Diego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I was on a military base, they COULD drink alcohol at age 18.  At least in the military clubs.</p>
<p>I suppose that could have changed.</p>
<p>This was in San Diego.</p>
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		<title>By: jennyjen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennyjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta say I don&#039;t really have a side in this issue- I&#039;m 28- I can drink as much as I want. But I will say this; at 18 I was drinkin, at 16 I was drinkin and at 14 I was drinkin- Why?? Because I was told I couldn&#039;t. It&#039;s pretty much the same argument against gun control- if you want to shoot someone, you will find a gun. In the same respects, if you want to drink- you will find whiskey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say I don&#8217;t really have a side in this issue- I&#8217;m 28- I can drink as much as I want. But I will say this; at 18 I was drinkin, at 16 I was drinkin and at 14 I was drinkin- Why?? Because I was told I couldn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s pretty much the same argument against gun control- if you want to shoot someone, you will find a gun. In the same respects, if you want to drink- you will find whiskey.</p>
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		<title>By: Northern Light</title>
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		<dc:creator>Northern Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I have always been in favour of lowering the drinking age to 16. If kids were allowed to start drinking while they were still living with their parents, there would be a closer monitoring of their foolish binge drinking stage. If they do their stupid first-drunk mistakes while they are living with their parents they would be a lot safer and more likely to stop drinking irresponsibly earlier than they would be if they had their first serious drunks at a time when they are not under their parent&#039;s watchful eyes.

There is another solution of course. I seriously believe that any person who is risking their lives for their country should be able to have a drink if they choose to. So why not keep the kids from joining the army until age 21? It might even lead to more maturity in the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I have always been in favour of lowering the drinking age to 16. If kids were allowed to start drinking while they were still living with their parents, there would be a closer monitoring of their foolish binge drinking stage. If they do their stupid first-drunk mistakes while they are living with their parents they would be a lot safer and more likely to stop drinking irresponsibly earlier than they would be if they had their first serious drunks at a time when they are not under their parent&#8217;s watchful eyes.</p>
<p>There is another solution of course. I seriously believe that any person who is risking their lives for their country should be able to have a drink if they choose to. So why not keep the kids from joining the army until age 21? It might even lead to more maturity in the military.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in Iraq now (my third trip).  It would just be great if we could drink beer now and then; we still aren&#039;t allowed to drink here.

There are swimming pools, air conditioned quarters, laundry service, internet, cable tv, ice cream, and for some ... more carnal delights.... but no beer.  Sometimes you can almost forget you are in Iraq, until you are watching college ball at quarter to 5 in the morning and can&#039;t pop the top on a cold one.  

The brits on the other hand appreciate the good order and sense of well being that a couple of cold ones can bring.  They effectively thumb their noses at this order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in Iraq now (my third trip).  It would just be great if we could drink beer now and then; we still aren&#8217;t allowed to drink here.</p>
<p>There are swimming pools, air conditioned quarters, laundry service, internet, cable tv, ice cream, and for some &#8230; more carnal delights&#8230;. but no beer.  Sometimes you can almost forget you are in Iraq, until you are watching college ball at quarter to 5 in the morning and can&#8217;t pop the top on a cold one.  </p>
<p>The brits on the other hand appreciate the good order and sense of well being that a couple of cold ones can bring.  They effectively thumb their noses at this order.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in Portland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark in Portland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idiotic proposal.  So, they&#039;re upset by 18-20 year olds binge drinking on their campus&#039; (campi?) and their solution is to make it easier for 15-17 year olds to binge drink in high school?  Talk about sloughing responsibility.

However, I am in favor of our 18-20 year old military service members to have the right to drink: on base, say at the NCO club or organized functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiotic proposal.  So, they&#8217;re upset by 18-20 year olds binge drinking on their campus&#8217; (campi?) and their solution is to make it easier for 15-17 year olds to binge drink in high school?  Talk about sloughing responsibility.</p>
<p>However, I am in favor of our 18-20 year old military service members to have the right to drink: on base, say at the NCO club or organized functions.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim:  You want some cheese with that whine?  Did little Jimmy have a problem with a scoldy nun in his past that he can&#039;t shake off?    

Alcohol IS a drug.  Why would you push it on young people when you know that the DUI laws are so brutal and rigid these days?    

A mother expressing worry for her children is not an invition for fascism or dreaming of a bunch of crazed MEN marching in lock step while saluting a freak like Hitler.  For saying that, I say to you: Cram it Clown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:  You want some cheese with that whine?  Did little Jimmy have a problem with a scoldy nun in his past that he can&#8217;t shake off?    </p>
<p>Alcohol IS a drug.  Why would you push it on young people when you know that the DUI laws are so brutal and rigid these days?    </p>
<p>A mother expressing worry for her children is not an invition for fascism or dreaming of a bunch of crazed MEN marching in lock step while saluting a freak like Hitler.  For saying that, I say to you: Cram it Clown.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lowering the age to 18 makes it infinitely easier for the 13-17 crowd to get their hands on booze. Oldest guy/gal in the crowd makes the booze run for the rest. &quot;

Clueless comment. You make it sound like 18-year-olds socialize with 13-year-olds. On what planet?

&quot;Kids and people who whine about old enough to serve their counrty should drink are doing just that - whining,&quot;

Rachel, take your shaming language and jam it. No one is whining. Insisting on a right is not whining. 

&quot;But as an aunt of 11 kids,...&quot;

You can&#039;t possibly be trying to say that the lives of your 11 kids are worth more than other people&#039;s rights, are you? You&#039;re pretty selfish if you are, especially in this case, since we are talking about people that risk their lives to guarantee your rights.

&quot;You all sound like a bunch of drug pushers.&quot;

And you sound like a know-it-all, scoldy nun. Take your own advice, Lynn, and shut up.

&quot;The legal drinking age of 21 did not harm my kids and let me have some extra worry free nights.&quot;

The preference for security over freedom is the essence of fascism. No wonder Hitler&#039;s biggest support base was housewives.


&quot;teens who want to get trashed as it’s some sort of proof of mature adulthood &#039;

Stop lying about other people&#039;s intentions. You can&#039;t possibly know what these people want. Are you the sort of person who think trying to tell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lowering the age to 18 makes it infinitely easier for the 13-17 crowd to get their hands on booze. Oldest guy/gal in the crowd makes the booze run for the rest. &#8221;</p>
<p>Clueless comment. You make it sound like 18-year-olds socialize with 13-year-olds. On what planet?</p>
<p>&#8220;Kids and people who whine about old enough to serve their counrty should drink are doing just that &#8211; whining,&#8221;</p>
<p>Rachel, take your shaming language and jam it. No one is whining. Insisting on a right is not whining. </p>
<p>&#8220;But as an aunt of 11 kids,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t possibly be trying to say that the lives of your 11 kids are worth more than other people&#8217;s rights, are you? You&#8217;re pretty selfish if you are, especially in this case, since we are talking about people that risk their lives to guarantee your rights.</p>
<p>&#8220;You all sound like a bunch of drug pushers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you sound like a know-it-all, scoldy nun. Take your own advice, Lynn, and shut up.</p>
<p>&#8220;The legal drinking age of 21 did not harm my kids and let me have some extra worry free nights.&#8221;</p>
<p>The preference for security over freedom is the essence of fascism. No wonder Hitler&#8217;s biggest support base was housewives.</p>
<p>&#8220;teens who want to get trashed as it’s some sort of proof of mature adulthood &#8216;</p>
<p>Stop lying about other people&#8217;s intentions. You can&#8217;t possibly know what these people want. Are you the sort of person who think trying to tell</p>
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		<title>By: SGT Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGT Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because a bunch of politicians passed a law back in the 70s doesn&#039;t mean that it was wise or needed.

I drank on base with my comrades, all under 21. Somehow, our brains developed normally and we&#039;re not all in jail. Somehow. Gee I wonder what it was. Good thing the pols passed a law! Oh wait...

Also, the mean age in WW2 was so high because of the draft and volunteerism of older folks and guess what? The drinking age on bases back then was usually 18, as the old Army wasn&#039;t full of puritans and a PC ridden officer corp more concerned with their precious evaluation reports than their troops having a bit of fun. How come no one is concerned with the unintended consequence in bnge drinking deaths caused by the current silly law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because a bunch of politicians passed a law back in the 70s doesn&#8217;t mean that it was wise or needed.</p>
<p>I drank on base with my comrades, all under 21. Somehow, our brains developed normally and we&#8217;re not all in jail. Somehow. Gee I wonder what it was. Good thing the pols passed a law! Oh wait&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, the mean age in WW2 was so high because of the draft and volunteerism of older folks and guess what? The drinking age on bases back then was usually 18, as the old Army wasn&#8217;t full of puritans and a PC ridden officer corp more concerned with their precious evaluation reports than their troops having a bit of fun. How come no one is concerned with the unintended consequence in bnge drinking deaths caused by the current silly law?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Katz Keating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Katz Keating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gus: Are YOU just trolling, or are you too apathetic to actually think about the comments you skim? I repeat: I don&#039;t see any correlation between mil-service and drinking age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gus: Are YOU just trolling, or are you too apathetic to actually think about the comments you skim? I repeat: I don&#8217;t see any correlation between mil-service and drinking age.</p>
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		<title>By: Joaquin Murrieta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joaquin Murrieta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>University students ages 18 to 20 make up a small amount of young adults this age. University students should not be given a privilege  position in this argument. Besides students drink because the local businesses in the towns hosting the universities generate capital by exploiting students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University students ages 18 to 20 make up a small amount of young adults this age. University students should not be given a privilege  position in this argument. Besides students drink because the local businesses in the towns hosting the universities generate capital by exploiting students.</p>
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