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	<title>Comments on: On Saks and Starbucks: Demanding Value in Tough Economic Times</title>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starbucks coffee tastes like battery acid.  I&#039;ve always found the chairs hard and uncomfortable, and usually taken up by soccer moms, Goth gals, Goth guys, anime fans collecting weird Japanese dolls and people working on their laptops.  Get a home office, guys.  And put away the cell phones.  

And Ross Dress For Less rules!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starbucks coffee tastes like battery acid.  I&#8217;ve always found the chairs hard and uncomfortable, and usually taken up by soccer moms, Goth gals, Goth guys, anime fans collecting weird Japanese dolls and people working on their laptops.  Get a home office, guys.  And put away the cell phones.  </p>
<p>And Ross Dress For Less rules!</p>
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		<title>By: Judy, NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy, NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>starbuck&#039;s coffee is the worst. searingly bitter and you&#039;re lucky if it isn&#039;t sour as well. feh. lounging around, however, having even bad coffee and a billion calorie piece of cake, reading the newspaper in cushy chairs and working on your laptop without being pushed out of your seat is very nice. those high prices are not for the coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>starbuck&#8217;s coffee is the worst. searingly bitter and you&#8217;re lucky if it isn&#8217;t sour as well. feh. lounging around, however, having even bad coffee and a billion calorie piece of cake, reading the newspaper in cushy chairs and working on your laptop without being pushed out of your seat is very nice. those high prices are not for the coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, a whole column on the efficacy of leveraging discretionary dollars within an economy in which elastic demand drives value and... you folks honed in on the mention of Starbucks.

S&#039;okay. I&#039;m laughing at you all the way to the bank.

Meanwhile:

&lt;em&gt;“Did Starbucks steal your prom date or something? Why are you singling them out twice in a row?”&lt;/em&gt;

1) No. I didn&#039;t go to my prom because I was doing time in juvie. (Take &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; all you &quot;oh, such a suburban housewife perspective&quot; reactionaries.) 

2) I, actually, enjoy Starbucks. I go for a latte now and then as a treat. But I, being determined to see our family&#039;s way out of debt (which includes our mortgage), know the difference between indulging in a treat and &quot;me time&quot;. As in: &quot;me time&quot; shouldn&#039;t cost a thing. If it does, it&#039;s some company&#039;s time.

3) And, yes, I resent the fact that so many Mommies -- and, let&#039;s face it, outside of NYC and LA that&#039;s the bulk of Starbucks&#039; customer base these days -- view their trip to the Green Mermaid as an &quot;indulgence&quot; because, truth is, they&#039;re getting RIPPED OFF.

Oh, and since I&#039;ve got another PJM column coming up soon, you might want to be aware: I think it *might* mention the word coffee. So, go ahead: start preparing your knee-jerk responses which have nothing to do with the point of the column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a whole column on the efficacy of leveraging discretionary dollars within an economy in which elastic demand drives value and&#8230; you folks honed in on the mention of Starbucks.</p>
<p>S&#8217;okay. I&#8217;m laughing at you all the way to the bank.</p>
<p>Meanwhile:</p>
<p><em>“Did Starbucks steal your prom date or something? Why are you singling them out twice in a row?”</em></p>
<p>1) No. I didn&#8217;t go to my prom because I was doing time in juvie. (Take <em>that</em> all you &#8220;oh, such a suburban housewife perspective&#8221; reactionaries.) </p>
<p>2) I, actually, enjoy Starbucks. I go for a latte now and then as a treat. But I, being determined to see our family&#8217;s way out of debt (which includes our mortgage), know the difference between indulging in a treat and &#8220;me time&#8221;. As in: &#8220;me time&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t cost a thing. If it does, it&#8217;s some company&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>3) And, yes, I resent the fact that so many Mommies &#8212; and, let&#8217;s face it, outside of NYC and LA that&#8217;s the bulk of Starbucks&#8217; customer base these days &#8212; view their trip to the Green Mermaid as an &#8220;indulgence&#8221; because, truth is, they&#8217;re getting RIPPED OFF.</p>
<p>Oh, and since I&#8217;ve got another PJM column coming up soon, you might want to be aware: I think it *might* mention the word coffee. So, go ahead: start preparing your knee-jerk responses which have nothing to do with the point of the column.</p>
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		<title>By: PISTON HONDA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PISTON HONDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL COFFEE SUCKS, I DON&#039;T CARE WHO MAKES IT.  I AM AN OVALTINE MAN.</description>
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		<title>By: Hanoi Paris Hilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanoi Paris Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BVW, I&#039;d say that any specialized automotive technician is likely to have forgotten a whole helluva lot more than you&#039;ll ever learn about car mechanics. But, Jeesh, what can a &quot;barista&quot; (gimme a break!) learn new  about brewing a pot of coffee after the first day on the job.

David Brooks, in his BoBo thesis says that a $4 cuppa coffee is right up their with a $75 garden trowel as a deluded, but superbly PC indulgence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BVW, I&#8217;d say that any specialized automotive technician is likely to have forgotten a whole helluva lot more than you&#8217;ll ever learn about car mechanics. But, Jeesh, what can a &#8220;barista&#8221; (gimme a break!) learn new  about brewing a pot of coffee after the first day on the job.</p>
<p>David Brooks, in his BoBo thesis says that a $4 cuppa coffee is right up their with a $75 garden trowel as a deluded, but superbly PC indulgence.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dougf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Did Starbucks steal your prom date or something? Why are you singling them out twice in a row?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Umm, maybe because they almost perfectly represent something that the writer believes is dying as we speak. Namely to put it crudely -- the More Money(borrowed at that) Than Brains model for economic growth and stability. Hard to defend something that is just so clearly WRONG and has had so many deleterious effects.

Always personally thought that Starbucks was a complete rip catering to the self-absorbed, so I consider myself to have been way ahead of the curve. Frankly I hope that they and their ostentatious consumption addicts disguised as customers both continue down the road to personal &#039;revelation&#039;. You know the one where $4.00 is a daily wage if you are lucky. The one in which most of the World really lives.

Faster Please. Much much faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Did Starbucks steal your prom date or something? Why are you singling them out twice in a row?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Umm, maybe because they almost perfectly represent something that the writer believes is dying as we speak. Namely to put it crudely &#8212; the More Money(borrowed at that) Than Brains model for economic growth and stability. Hard to defend something that is just so clearly WRONG and has had so many deleterious effects.</p>
<p>Always personally thought that Starbucks was a complete rip catering to the self-absorbed, so I consider myself to have been way ahead of the curve. Frankly I hope that they and their ostentatious consumption addicts disguised as customers both continue down the road to personal &#8216;revelation&#8217;. You know the one where $4.00 is a daily wage if you are lucky. The one in which most of the World really lives.</p>
<p>Faster Please. Much much faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Peg C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peg C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a Starbucks&#039; customer for at least 20 years but I agree, it is lousy. Occasionally you can get a good latte, but the &quot;coffees&quot; are bitter and bad, and lattes are a hideously high-priced luxury. I&#039;m done with them on a regular basis. And ditto on their political agenda. 

The fact that Starbucks has had to close 100s of shops (and will no doubt have to close more this year) proves they are a luxury, not a necessity, and there were way too many in NYC and elsewhere. They have become an expensive joke that many in this economy are finding they can easily do without.

As an aside, we are going back to brewing our own coffee at home and mothballing the Keurig. K-cups are very convenient but ridiculously expensive, and our discretionary income is going towards paying off credit cards rather than luxuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a Starbucks&#8217; customer for at least 20 years but I agree, it is lousy. Occasionally you can get a good latte, but the &#8220;coffees&#8221; are bitter and bad, and lattes are a hideously high-priced luxury. I&#8217;m done with them on a regular basis. And ditto on their political agenda. </p>
<p>The fact that Starbucks has had to close 100s of shops (and will no doubt have to close more this year) proves they are a luxury, not a necessity, and there were way too many in NYC and elsewhere. They have become an expensive joke that many in this economy are finding they can easily do without.</p>
<p>As an aside, we are going back to brewing our own coffee at home and mothballing the Keurig. K-cups are very convenient but ridiculously expensive, and our discretionary income is going towards paying off credit cards rather than luxuries.</p>
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		<title>By: JFM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JFM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starbucks is all about using the fair trade scam (yes, read my comment to the preceeding Strabucks article for a demonstration) in order to make rich white kids to pay 5$ for a 50c coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starbucks is all about using the fair trade scam (yes, read my comment to the preceeding Strabucks article for a demonstration) in order to make rich white kids to pay 5$ for a 50c coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Sgt Bazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sgt Bazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember Starbucks putting liberal messages on the back of their cups? Well, doing so and putting your hat into the political ring brings consequences. For me, that meant no longer getting my money. McD&#039;s is better anyways, and cheaper to boot. 
I hope you all boycott them and their political agenda. Serves them right announcing they were libs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember Starbucks putting liberal messages on the back of their cups? Well, doing so and putting your hat into the political ring brings consequences. For me, that meant no longer getting my money. McD&#8217;s is better anyways, and cheaper to boot.<br />
I hope you all boycott them and their political agenda. Serves them right announcing they were libs.</p>
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		<title>By: Paparon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paparon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mc Donalds makes the best coffee. Starbucks is a bitter brew.</description>
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