Comments on: Orwell Cometh: A Look Inside the Surveillance Society

By: Dblade

Dblade — Tue, 26 May 2009 05:33:43 +0000

The problem though is that people aren’t honest and willing to accept more crime for less surveillence. The police are zero-sum, they can only do so much, so things like this are an effort to try and increase protection by supplementing it with mechanical means.

I mean, stores use cctv too, mostly because its impossible to afford a full-time detective team. If they didn’t, crime would increase, simply because there is less of a deterrent.

If you want small government, you have to accept the reduction in services it will bring. You can’t have both-if you want more freedom from observation, you have to accept the increase in crime it may bring.

By: wadosy

wadosy — Mon, 25 May 2009 17:08:01 +0000

nevermind.

the situation’s under control.

we manufacture terrorists, who are blamed for crimes we commit to justify our project, then torture our ersatz terrorists into confessing to our crimes.

it works like a charm… except for the dawning suspicion (in the general population) that the whole thing’s a crock…

…which explains why massive data mining is necessary.

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it’s the cold civil war, dont you know?

By: wadosy

wadosy — Mon, 25 May 2009 17:03:12 +0000

these invasions of privacy are wildly successful, which explains why the FBI has to manufacture its own terrorists, then bust them with weeks of 24/7 media hysteria.

despite all the data mining, they still cant find al qaeda.

…so it becomes necessary to ask ourselves: who’s the government really afraid of?

By: burntjohn

burntjohn — Mon, 25 May 2009 02:31:42 +0000

Google crawls the entire internet every couple of weeks and has recently started to keep track of who is linked to whom on social networks, blogs and just about every page they crawl. This new service is called Google Social Graph.

By: Well Educated Cad

Well Educated Cad — Mon, 25 May 2009 02:04:10 +0000

Who was it who said ” Those who would give up their freedom for security will soon have neither”? Jefferson? or Franklin?

By: Warren Bonesteel

Warren Bonesteel — Sun, 24 May 2009 22:24:30 +0000

If the truth were but known, neither party/ideology gives a rip about freedom. Their narrative and meme is about control. Your favorite and least favorite politicians are the problem. Hell, you elected them – and keep on re-electing them – so you’re a part of the problem.

Google: ‘Beyond Conspiracy: Police State America.’ There are numerous
references and resources at the first three links.

see also: ‘An Open Letter to American Politicians: On “Right-Wing Extremists”.
by Warren “Bones” Bonesteel’

see also: ‘Economic Depression, Civil Unrest and the breakdown of order in America.’

see also: ‘On Proper Government in a Republic.’

U.S. Constitution.
http://www.usconstitution.net/declar.html
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

State Constitutions
http://www.findlaw.com/11stategov/indexconst.html

Commentary and letters by Founding Fathers.
http://www.constitution.org/liberlib.htm http://oll.libertyfund.org/

Whether you realize it or not, you only have two choices left: Submit to tyranny or prepare to fertilize a certain metaphorical tree.

By: Oscar Wao

Oscar Wao — Sun, 24 May 2009 03:07:22 +0000

“They have a pretty good idea of what to look for and where to look for it. Flagged words and phrases would trigger a closer look and then get a warrant to fully investigate. They don’t have time for that.”

I don’t understand the distinction you’re making. Here you are defending an article about surveillace. You do realize that the problem of surveillance isn’t that THEY ARE actively looking at you, its THAT AT ANY MOMENT THEY COULD BE. Some douchebag might read all or none of your emails. Its up to him. That’s the whole point of right to privacy–you don’t put that power in the hands of the government. I can’t believe I’m actually explaining this to somebody. God, I was prepared for some low IQs here, but I feel like I need an express elevator back up to the surface.

By: JED

JED — Sat, 23 May 2009 23:21:18 +0000

If you want to soar to new levels of paranoia, rent the movie “Eagle Eye”. The joke is on us, because we are paying for this security.

By: D. Grant Chee

D. Grant Chee — Sat, 23 May 2009 22:41:49 +0000

We, tha sheepple, have big bro surrounded! Baa
Bhaaaa, baaaah baaaaaaaaaaaaahh

By: D. Grant Chee

D. Grant Chee — Sat, 23 May 2009 22:34:38 +0000

The guvmint, in watching us, demands we watch them. County, state and federal bureaucrats are
granted authority to steal our privacy, place us on rosters and declare broad segments of (we the people) liabilities; while elected leaders exercise no authority to protect us.
ATTN Bureau-rats: We know who you are, where you are and what you have done and plan to do.
What you don’t know is that your misconduct and abuse of undeserved authority is your undoing.