I agree with your comments, but I stumbled upon this today and it might be far worse than we think!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1417423198/bctid1827891038

Let’s all pray for John McCain’s health if the Republicans win!

If she does come to be President and there is a nuclear crisis, she just doesn’t have the skill, judgement, knowledge or judgement to be the commander in chief. But there she will be, with her finger on the nuclear button. This is a frightening prospect. This is violation of the other “right to life”. Where are my “right to life” friends now that I need them?

Thanks

I’m sorry I didn’t make myself clearer – JJ’s statement (Jews should be grateful to Christians for physically protecting them) was an exact inversion of reality and I reacted instead of explaining. Millions of Jews (including huge swaths of my family) were physically destroyed within living memory by Christian Europe. Christian values allowed millions to be swayed into the pagan death worship called Nazism.

On the other side, America acted as a tremendous force for good (as it has done throughout history). Many Americans were motivated by their Christianity. I’d even go so far as to say that this type of behavior is the ultimate expression of Christianity – not the side Jews have experienced through most of the past two millenia.

That said, it’s simply ahistorical to view Christianity as sheltering Jews. It’s as if I expected blacks to be grateful to America for freeing the slaves. Yes, we paid a terrible price in blood to end slavery, but it was an American problem to start with.

There’s no en garde here. I’m not looking to debate you on this (or any) subject. You’re simply not my enemy.

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Gratitude is something freely given, not extracted.

If it hasn’t been clear from my previous writings, I’m deeply grateful to this country. My father came here as a ten year old refugee and surely would have been murdered if his parents were unable to escape Berlin.

Part of the reason why this country is such a beacon of liberty is because of the men whose valor and sacrifice enable the American way of life. I’m deeply appreciative of these people, including your dad and JJ’s grandparents. I’m also glad for whatever role Christianity had in their lives.

I’m equally grateful to the Jews I know who have displayed amazing courage in service to this country. I’m particularly thinking of my buddy I saw in synagogue this morning (Distinguished Flying Cross over Iraq) and a mild-mannered family friend (Silver Star Marine in Korea). Judaism has been important to both of them and has shaped them into the terrific people they are.

G-d has inspired many people from various backgrounds to come together to build this country and make it an enormous source of good in the world. Some of these people have been Jews. Some of these people professed no belief at all. And many were deeply Christian.

E Pluribus Unum.

Interesting reports about great-grandparents, grandparents. I’ll chime in with my aspect.

My Father and all my uncles on his side of my family fought to save Mike’s great-grandparents….if Mike is talking about his great-grandparents dying in the 1930s and 1940s. My Father, God rest his soul, flew B26 Martin Marauders.

So….youngsters….

….putting thinks into perspective can be ‘interesting’.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[If your parents never had children, odds are you won't either.]

“Almost all of my great-grandparents were murdered in Europe.”

Mike, _ALL_ my grandparents, save one, died trying to save YOUR grandparents.

You’re wasting words on deeply twisted haters. — david levavi

….all those dead Americans REALLY hated the Jews.

You want to see a REAL ‘hater’. Look in the mirror…..

….and weep.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Greater love hath no man that this, that a man lay down his life for a friend. -- Some Wag, around 2000 years ago]

You’re wasting words on deeply twisted haters.

Best wishes for a peaceful Sabbath and a happy New Year.

Almost all of my great-grandparents were murdered in Europe. I’m sure your comment was intended as a lighthearted jest, but please don’t push it. — Mike

It is truly sad, to have lost family that way.

But I recall that thousands of American christians were killed by the Nazi forces within the first hours of the invasion of Europe in order to STOP such murders.

The problems back then was NO ONE took Hitler seriously when he seized the Rhineland and invaded the Sudetenland. [Note: A LOT like we're not taking Putin seriously about (1) what he did in Georgia and (2) what he's talking about doing in the Arctic.]

As for his comment being ‘light-hearted jest’….

….I don’t consider the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives TRYING to STOP HITLER from killing anymore of your relations, close or distant, ‘light-hearted jest’.

And, I think your trying to put down their sacrifice reason to suspect a degree of ingratitude that is unbecoming of you.

Regards,

Chuck
P.S. JJ doesn’t need to push it. I’LL push it. And if you care to engage….en gardé!