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1. ashok:

I hope the law can be used to contain the unethical use of mechanisms that were supposed to promote ethics. But somehow, while I want Governor Palin to fight back and win, in the long-term I don’t think this can work.

What really needs to happen is that the Left needs to be ashamed for engaging in constant whining, and see themselves as petty, cruel, and willing to break the law and hurt others for no good reason. And yes, while there have been plenty of petty complaints by the Right, I think the last 8-9 years have demonstrated that our friends on the Left have no sense of shame. A major part of the problem is that progress is itself shameless: it breaks customs and may even redefine the good.

A Democratic party that actually cared for its members might address the fact that there is a tension, therefore, between the goals of social justice and progress. It isn’t clear the charity which underlies social justice is universal as much as traditional, and progress doesn’t require charity. Part of addressing that tension would be getting their members to calm down about progress, since those of us who believe in a free market can very easily claim to be on the side of progress, and educate their members as to the destructiveness of taking social justice rhetoric too far:

“‘Social justice’ isn’t justice – all of us know this. It’s an attempt to overturn more established values for the sake of greater comforts by uniting some of the discontented. To some degree, this is acceptable – we can do things that are seemingly harmless, so why not? But the greatest comfort is feeling good about being moral, and “social justice” allows for people to have this feeling without actually being moral. All you need to do is blame everyone else for everything. The dangers are sequential – a politics dominated by (messianic) celebrity, complete with the rule of gossip over policy; the emergence of conspiracy theory and paranoia as mass movements; finally, overt violence against others based on perception.” (from “What can we reasonably expect from partisanship?”)

Jul 23, 2009 - 2:14 am 2. David Thomson:

“Governor Palin failed to issue an appropriate proclamation for the celebration of Juneteenth, “a holiday observance which celebrates the freeing of the last remaining slaves in Galveston, Texas, on June 19, 1865″

I live only a hour’s drive from Galveston. It may be appropriate for Texans to celebrate this relatively minor occasion—but why the rest of the United States? Do the majority of Alaskans really give damn? I doubt it very much. Sarah Palin should definitely seek justice. This immoral nonsense has essentially forced her to resign as governor. The legal bills and waste of time never ends. Alaskan voters must quickly reverse their originally well meaning ethics investigation laws. They have been turned into an utter disaster.

Jul 23, 2009 - 2:54 am 3. Brian Richard Allen:

How encouraging for the team of Governor or, as we should already be calling her, United States President and Armed-Forces Commander-In-Chief Elect Palin, that the gutless gangsters also called the “Democrats” are so damned terrified by their knowledge that they’re looking at United States President and Armed-Forces Commander-In-Chief Elect Palin, that every one of them is psychopathologically projectile projecting, at her, the imploded contents of the black hole that does him for a character.

And what a simply awful black hole it is, thus revealed, that does every self-and-own-culture-loathing un-and-anti-American, lying, looting, thieving bloody “Democrat” for his “character.”

God save us, every one — and our beloved fraternal republic — from the envy-motivated, rage-engined and hatred-driven evil basta*ds.

PALIN/PETRAEUS/2012!

Brian Richard Allen
Los Angeles – Califobambicated 90028
And the Far Abroad

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:52 am 4. The Skizzerd of Waz:

I’m glad Sarah is going after these lawsuit-happy bungholes, it’s about time somebody from our side started gunning for these vipers!

Take ‘em down Sarah, you rock!

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:25 am 5. RandyChandler:

It’s great to see Sarah shedding the target from her back and finally targetting attackers, in this case race hustlers. Fire at will, Sarah. Now they will really be afraid of you.

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:30 am 6. Mike2:

“And of course, piles of money.”

Bottom line is it not? I hope you fight back Sarah with all you have and make them pay. I have never seen hate and fear directed towards a politician as that directed towards Palin. You go girl, millions of us love you.

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:19 am 7. "progressive"watch:

This is just another demostration of the left’s unAmerican methods,which is full-time assault on and war against opposition. Legitimate elections results have no meaning to the left. This is the antithesis of our form of government. This kind of behavior can destroy our system of free,elected government.

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:24 am 8. sule:

Regarding Sarah’s persecuters, Saul Alinsky would be proud:
“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
“If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside.”
“Keep the pressure on.”
“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

Leftists are beneath contempt. Just how long must they be endured by a long suffering tax paying citizenry forced to finance the endless attacks? Does anybody remember the 30 lawyers Barry’s campaign team sent to Alaska, but no one is allowed to see Soetero’s actual birth certificate.

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:43 am 9. UsaBruce:

Once Sarah is unshackled, in 3 more days, I think the hyenas are going to meet The Huntress. It’s coming time to pay for the blood drawn by the whipping of her children. They have unleashed the Sarah that they feared most, and were unable to destroy. She has my vote and my financial support. I am tired of the filth that competes to be the most vicious against women and children, and howls with glee when they injure them.

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:44 am 10. greg:

Conservatives4Palin.com has a great write up about this Thomas Daniel who wrote the report. Turns out he’s a big Dem contributor, works for a law firm that represents 0bama, and his crowd, wife is also a big shot in the AK dem party. Sounds a little unethical for him to have accepted investigating this matter in the first place. Chatman should be sued for everything she’s got. The Personnel Board should investigate the leaking of the report. Drag in Rachel D’Oro of the AP who ran with this story, Chatman who leaked it, and Daniel the dem operative who wrote it.

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:46 am 11. pistolpetestoys:

Three more days and Sarah can unleash the dogs of war on her tormenters.

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:49 am 12. Middleman:

Yes, fight back Sarah. Let the legal fees rack up.

Jul 23, 2009 - 6:29 am 13. Maggie:

Bravo, Sarah. Maybe Sarah’s new career will be to generate lawsuits against liberals. I’d contribute to that effort. If not Sarah, someone should do it. Fight back.

Jul 23, 2009 - 6:29 am 14. lefterlypanda:

I am from above the 49th, and i do my best to be well versed in international news, and always try to be informed.
Our Right, is about center in American politics and our left… well you guys don’t even have it on the meter…

i consider myself fiscally conservative, i am in support of small government… but the right of the united stats amazes me…

who in their right mind thinks Ethics investigations are a waste of time? umm.. inst corruption bad? dont you want you public servants to be honest in their dealings, not take bribes and show favoritism? or is it ingrained into the society of the right so much, that successful people deserve to be able to lie and cheat and get away from it because of their higher calling, stuffing their pockets with dirty money and not being able to actually tell the truth without physically shuddering?

don’t you want your daughter to have a role model, and not another floozy that is only appreciated for what is between her navel and chin.. Being a hunter is ok, there are no issues with being a redneck, but come on, at least pick someone that can name the 3 countries that make up north America..

Jul 23, 2009 - 6:39 am 15. carol:

I cannot imagine anyone feeling threatened by Palin. She is undereducated, inarticulate and unprofessional. She brought all the criticism on herself and still doesn’t get it.

Jul 23, 2009 - 6:49 am 16. Nora:

lefterly panda -

let’s be honest – what standard of ethics violations has Palin violated for not issuing a proclamation honoring Juneteenth? Has she wasted state money? Has she lied to her constituents? Failed ot pass a budget? Failed to defend her state against enemies? Failed to pursue industry and jobs for her constituents? Is this failure to carry out her duty really severe enough that it needs to be the subject of an ethics violation? Come on! If the law said she’s supposed to do it, she should have, but failure to do so should have gotten some stories in the local paper, an apology, and been dropped.

Jul 23, 2009 - 6:56 am 17. Blarty Blarckleblart:

Sarah who, again?

Jul 23, 2009 - 6:56 am 18. rocketeer:

@14 – lefterlypanda – but the right of the united stats amazes me…

We are pretty amazing, I’ll have to give you that.

who in their right mind thinks Ethics investigations are a waste of time?

No one thinks ethics investigations are a bad thing. Everyone thinks that frivolous complaints are a complete waste of time. Do you think that there was any malfeasance on the part of Palin for not issuing a statement proclaiming the wonderfulness of Juneteenth? Do you think that the governor should have to spend her own money defending her actions as governor especially regarding obviously stupid complaints like these?

I’m glad that Palin is going to start filing counter-suites against these buffoons. They need to be openly mocked in court and to have their assets wasted.

don’t you want your daughter to have a role model, and not another floozy that is only appreciated for what is between her navel and chin

Floozy? Really? Is that the best you have? She’s a married mother of five, including one child with Downs Syndrome, as well as a successful governor, and all you have is “Floozy”? You’ve outed yourself with that one. Like everyone else on the left, you just want to attack the individual and marginalize them to win your argument. It’s pathetic.

Jul 23, 2009 - 7:16 am 19. rocketeer:

@15 – carol I cannot imagine anyone feeling threatened by Palin. She is undereducated, inarticulate and unprofessional. She brought all the criticism on herself and still doesn’t get it.

And your qualifications are? You are the governor of what state? You’ve run as a Vice-Presidential candidate in a national election when? It’s easy to throw rocks on these blogs, it’s much harder to actually go out and be a public figure.

How did she bring the criticism on herself? What is it that she doesn’t get? She’s run circles around ALL of the pundits, on both sides of the political spectrum, who just don’t “get” her.

Like her or not, you have to admit that she motivates conservatives and ticks of liberals in a way that no one else comes close to. She’s going to be a powerhouse in the coming years, so get used to it.

Jul 23, 2009 - 7:23 am 20. jeff:

When is Palin going aweay!!I’m tired of hearing from that knucklehead!She’s a nobody no nothing from a state that has a smaller population than the city I live in

Jul 23, 2009 - 7:50 am 21. JohnRJ08:

http://johnrj08.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/why-sarah-palin-quit/

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:08 am 22. Unit of humanity:

Thanks for the roundup, Ralph. I hope Sarah Palin lights up these Pharisee jerkwads!
Maybe I will even donate some of my gov’t salary to help her defense, thereby embroiling myself in the same ethics kerfuffle. It’d be an honor.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:11 am 23. Butters Dad:

Jeff @ 20.

“nobody no nothing”. I assume from your grammar that you might be from Arkansas?

Get a life and an education, troll. Oh, wait. You did get an education, in the Democratic party controlled public education system.

I nominate Jeff as their poster boy. Who’s with me on this one?

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:21 am 24. JOMO:

I await Failin’ Palin’s next little political venture with bated breath, she makes for really good satire. Alaskans may keep her, if they wish, or turn her into polar bear bait, if the bears will suffer her…

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:22 am 25. Ole Sarge:

If Sarah Palin is a nobody, then why do the dims keep attacking her? You don’t waste time attacking nobody.

She terrifies them and they know that their won will end up facing her in the not to distant future and will loose. Of course by then bho will have proven to even the dimist what an idiot he is. After all, his claim to fame is his race, ability to read a teleprompter and to sound cool, not much in the way of qualifications for his current job.

We on the right seek an actually leader of substance so we support Sarah Palin.

S

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:24 am 26. Frank:

I’ve gotta say this the most refreshing news I have seen in some time. Republicans, W in particular, have been so obsessed with playing nice staying above the fray they forgot how to fight.

The enemies sets the rules. If you don’t fight in kind you’ll get your a$$ handed to you every time. Yeah, I miss decorum and the concept of dealing in good faith, but that is simply nostalgia fodder these days. Liberals tossed those rules out the window at or around the time of the Bork hearings. It has gone downhill and the left right divide has been starker ever since.

Democrats haven’t even acknowledgement, let alone adherence to those antiquated values. For party fundamentalists the prime directive is to win. Period. If that requires character assassination, frivilous lawsuits, election-rigging and dubious recounts, lying, cheating, stealing, so long as the directive is furthered anything goes. And you know what the saddest part of all is? IT WORKS.

I do not advocate that the GOP resorts to anything illegal or unethical but only saying that identifying and publicizing the enemies unethical shenanigans, like in this case, is the very least the GOP should be doing. Like I said, I haven’t seen much of it up til now. The gal’s got pluck, good on her.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:24 am 27. Frank Logan:

Comparing you to Palin, Jeff how do you stack up?

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:26 am 28. Anonymous:

When are you wizards going to realize that Palin has always got by on her looks and nothing else; if she were 5 feet tall and weighed about 180 lbs; she couldn’t get arrested. Her looks will fade (and have already started to; I would NOT want to see this woman at 7 am without full makeup and hair done; too damn scary). She hasn’t a brain or a connected, coherent thought. She is a quitter and ultimately a loser (best she could do in a beauty pageant was runner-up). If you like her great; the rest of us will wash our hands of this trampy dishrag

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:30 am 29. Войска ПВО:

21. JohnRJ08 attempts to pimp an out-of-date post on his pathetic, out-of-date blog:

Re your broken promises entry, why not take a look at this refutation of the Dem-O-cRats Underground attempt to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.

Your boy’s down for the count, get a body bag.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:33 am 30. Peter the Bubblehead:

14. lefterlypanda wrote:
who in their right mind thinks Ethics investigations are a waste of time? umm.. inst corruption bad?

Peter writes: Generally, yes, having the ability to investigate ethics violations is a good thing. But if you have been following this story, you would know that Palin has had literally DOZENS of investigations started against her. DOZENS! And you know how many of them turned out to be true?

Zilch! Zero! Nada!

The way the (seemingly flawed) system Alaska uses works, a citizen does not need any actual proof of wrongdoing. All they need to is make an assertion, no evidence what-so-ever, and file the paperwork. And then the state of Alaska must spend thousand (if not millions) of dollars that could be productively spent elsewhere investigating these allegations only to determine they are, once again, baseless.

Add to that, this has been the second such investigation where someone (likely the person who filed the charges) LEAKED the supposed result, claiming Palin had been found guilty, before the investigation has even concluded and, at least in the first instance (and likely in this second instance as well) the final report CLEARED PALIN OF ALL WRONGDOING!

This is only further attempts by the fringe-left to torment and punish Palin, with the added injustice that it depletes the citizens of Alaska of needed resources as well.

As has been suggested, there should be some sort of filing fee for submitting these charges. The filer can pay a fee of between $1000 and $5000 per instance and, if the accused is found guilty, the filer gets ther money back. If the accused is found innocent, the fee is applied to the cost of the investigation. It might curtail these baseless attacks.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:39 am 31. Peter the Bubblehead:

15. carol wrote:
I cannot imagine anyone feeling threatened by Palin. She is undereducated, inarticulate and unprofessional. She brought all the criticism on herself and still doesn’t get it.

Peter writes: And carol simply spouts off the typical lefty talking points, likewise as baseless as the ethics accusationss.

Tell me Carol, how does someone as uneducated and unintelligent as you and your lefty libtard crowd claim Palins get themselves elected first mayor and eventually governor of a state as important as Alaska?

And be careful how you answer, because the next question regards how someone like Obama gets himself elected sentaor and eventually POTUS.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:42 am 32. Mike:

“I cannot imagine anyone feeling threatened by Palin. She is undereducated, inarticulate and unprofessional. She brought all the criticism on herself and still doesn’t get it.”
-Undereducated = finished high school + graduated college (majority of Americans)
-Inarticulate = please read the transcript from Pres Obama’s press conference last night, then let me know what he said. If that rambling is considered articulate, I’ll take Palin.
-Unprofessional = Pres Obama, after stating that he does not know all the facts, proceeds to throw Cambridge police under his post-racial bus.
Carol, who were you speaking about in your comment?

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:44 am 33. Peter the Bubblehead:

28. Anonymous wrote:
When are you wizards going to realize that Palin has always got by on her looks and nothing else;

Peter writes: Funny, this statement coming from somebody who is in all likelyhood an Obama supporter. And just HOW did he get where he is now? Certainly wasn’t by his experience (none) or intelligence (again, none, since the man evidently cannot speak unless he has a teleprompter in front of him).

Looks (being ‘black’) and being able to read well (off a teleprompter) get Obama where he is today.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:47 am 34. carol:

Rocketeer: Anyone with half a brain can see that Palin is undereducated. McCain made a huge mistake when he picked her and he lost support because of her. She brings criticism on herself when she opens her mouth. I don’t think people truly hate her, they just know that she is not qualified for public office. Who does she run circles around?????? She appeals to the radical right and backwoods bible-thumpers.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:49 am 35. Jettboy:

“The way the (seemingly flawed) system Alaska uses works, a citizen does not need any actual proof of wrongdoing. All they need to is make an assertion, no evidence what-so-ever, and file the paperwork. And then the state of Alaska must spend thousand (if not millions) of dollars that could be productively spent elsewhere investigating these allegations only to determine they are, once again, baseless.”

Wow, if this is the case (and I assume whoever does this isn’t in any danger of legal problems unless the other side makes assertions) then I would think it a great idea for 1000 Republicans filing 1000 different assertion lawsuits against a few Democrats holding office. I say this with an Amen shout out to #26 Frank. You don’t win a war without shooting bullets at the enemy who is shooting at you.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:51 am 36. Maggie:

I’m a Democrate that leans to the far left, I don’t
like Sarah’s politics, but I really belive that these ethic attacks on her are childish, petty, and ignorant. No…Sarah should not have to pay. You people are Shamless and Ignorant. It’s time for the
people who are doing this to show some class!!!

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:51 am 37. Butters Dad:

Anonymous @ 28.

Yeah, that Joe Biden. What a rocket scientist. And with hair plugs to boot!

Of course, I seem to recall that he really liked your hero because he was “clean and articulate”.

You idiots never cease to amaze me.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:52 am 38. Sallie:

PALIN ROCKS!!

A disgusting, pathetic situtation in Alaska. I don’t care if you are Republican or Democrat, what is going on with Palin is WRONG!!!

We support Palin 100%%%%% It’s about time a Republican actually fought back. In general the people that represent the Republican party are weiners.

Sarah has a defense fund, which many gladly contribute to..considering the situation,and the people that constantly attack her.

No one is dumber than Biden, it is no wonder the racist king president keeps him under wraps.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:56 am 39. ster:

Carol. Another fool posting with no clue and no facts.

McCain made a huge mistake when he picked her and he lost support because of her.
>>>Sorry, but she actually helped. All of the polls, including the most extensive by Rasmussen show that she gave him several % points.

She brings criticism on herself when she opens her mouth.
>>>So does Biden.

I don’t think people truly hate her, they just know that she is not qualified for public office.
>>>She has/had more experience than Obama. By quite a bit.

Who does she run circles around??????
>>>Her former opponent, Biden. He former opponents – the old boys’ club of the GOP.

She appeals to the radical right and backwoods bible-thumpers.
>>>Probably. So? Obama appeals to the communists, socialists and radical eco-terrorists.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:58 am 40. carol:

Mike and bubblehead: Yes, Palin graduated from college after 6 tries in journalism. Since she cannot construct a sentence, I am amazed that the degree was ever granted.
Obama attended Occidental College for two years, then got his B.A. from Columbia University. He later got his law degree from Harvard Law School (where he became the Harvard Law Review’s first african american person president), graduating magna cum laude. Obama was also a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.So, guys, can you see the obvious difference here?

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:59 am 41. Blarty Blarckleblart:

I love Sarah whatshername. McCain picking her was the turning point in the election.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:02 am 42. Peter the Bubblehead:

40. carol:
Obama attended Occidental College for two years, then got his B.A. from Columbia University. He later got his law degree from Harvard Law School (where he became the Harvard Law Review’s first african american person president), graduating magna cum laude. Obama was also a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.So, guys, can you see the obvious difference here?

Peter writes: Sure I can see the difference. Obviously you can toom because you were able to look up Palin’s record. Try doing that with The Won?

Can I see his transcripts? Can I read his thesis? For all I know, he barely passed every class with a grade of D, becase The Won won’t let ANYONE see any paperwork pertaining to him.

He was editor of the Harvard Law Journal. Anyone read even a single submission by him?

There is a definite double-standard between how the libtards regard Dumbocrats and Republicans, and they are either too dumb and blind to see it (not likely) or revel in its continuation.

I still say in a side by side comparison, Palin outperforms Obama in every way.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:10 am 43. Michael:

Palin is a “STAR” “NOT”..palin crawled out from under a rock, she should crawl back under. Her very limited view of the world is a threat to anyone with common sense. It only goes to show how limited the Republican party really is. The main thing is that the party is out of power and will be for some time in the future. palin would not be drawing any attention if she was not semi-attractive. If she was over-weight, dowdy looking, this attention would be long over, but media likes to focus on anyone with looks and she fits the bill, for now.
But the ’star’ that shines twice as bright, shines only 1/2 as long.
Let’s hope that this media obsession with palin will end soon. She could go back to school and finish her education, because its clears she has little.
The only good thing about all this tripe, is that the DEMOCRATS ARE IN POWER. Ain’t life grand.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:10 am 44. Kevin:

Mike, when you are living in a shack, picking through dumpsters for sustenance because of your beloved Messiah’s policies, THAT will be grand.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:18 am 45. Frank:

Wow, an anonymous snarkster. Courageous. That you are too cowardly to identify yourself when insulting someone you presume so beneath you says a lot more about you than her. Typical lefty classless coward.

I am not yet sold on Palin as POTUS, despite that any reasonable person would conclude her qualifications by far outweigh those of the current occupant. (that Obama lowered the bar so much could prove an advantage to the GOP but disservice to the country). But I sure do enjoy how she brings out the froth sputterers. You guys are a hoot. Hey, where’s Sheesh? My insult quotient is off.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:19 am 46. carol:

Peter: you have to be outstanding in your class to be president of the Harvard Law Review – and gosh, intelligent, too. Information re Palin’s academic record is not availble nor is Obamas, so your comment is incorrect.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:20 am 47. Mike W.:

I love Sarah Palin! She’s single-handedly guaranteeing Democrat victories for years to come! Keep her in the spotlight, and America will keep being reminded that know-nothing right-wing creationist conservatives have no place in government.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:28 am 48. G:

Palin is only kept alive by the media. I am sick of hearing about her. She serves no purpose.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:36 am 49. john from cinncinatti:

you don’t find anything wrong with this,that they had to find an alaskan native to add to this ethics complaint, because an out of stater don’t count. ok i’m rubber you’re glue, it bounces off me and sticks to you. we shall see how much money Ms. Chatham has and where her defense fund originates. i think she will get to view the underside of the bus.
carol:she appeals to more than radical right and backwoods bible thumpers. she is scary though isn’t she? glad she is on my side. reminds me of a valkyrie

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:40 am 50. rwh:

We all know that Palin came out swinging at Obama. Using words like lipstick and hocky-mom which did not register with so many people, yet, she gain a lot of support. She had all of the women/men thinking she and McCain had a chance at being the President/Vice President. What people did not know than, but knowns now; there was and still is very dark secrets about Palin. Her speech that she gave telling the world she was stepping down as Governor did not make any sense what-so-ever! It appear that she was lost for words, seeking some concrete reason; which never came up. McCain now doubt her as a future running mate; leaving office before her terms end; not staying in and fight whatever it is; and also, make people wonder if she can hold a job during time as these. All those who support her then and even now…I think her favortism is gone because nothing she says or does just don’t make any sense!

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:41 am 51. arhooley:

Just as I finished commenting in TK Farrow’s column that White conservative politicians will continue to gutlessly pander to Black racism, Sarah proves me wrong. Yay!

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:48 am 52. carol:

G: you are absolutely right. She is kept alive by the media (which she thoroughly enjoys) and serves no purpose other than material for late night comedy shows.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:55 am 53. Dave:

Carol, you have nothing but empty character attacks on Gov. Palin. Your comments about her being dumb and inarticulate are so overstated and inaccurate that it really makes YOU look like a demented hack. It looks even worse if you attack her and think Biden is better.

In comparing her to Obama, you fall all over yourself in fawning over his Harvard education and demeaning Gov Palin’s, but an Ivy League education does not make a person wise. Wisdom and knowledge are not the same thing. I’ve had my fill of self absorbed Ivy Leaguers making really bad decisions. I see far more wisdom in Palin’s real world executive accomplishments in Alaska than the flailing, spastic pseudo-leadership coming out of the Whitehouse now.

That said, I think Gov. Palin should run for a congressional seat before running for POTUS. We should all be learning hard lessons right now that inexperience in the Whitehouse is not a good thing.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:58 am 54. narciso:

Dissapointingly, the story has a fundamental flaw, the board didn’t decide anything,the
‘independent investigator’, issued an opinion, than it was leaked, by some source most likely by the complainant, but it could be another party. The idea was threefold, to stigmatize the fund,dry up contributions to the fund, and
try to bring down up her poll numbers.

Her record,of working to reform politics in her state, forcing out corrupt politicians, forcing
oil companies to live up to their owncontractual
obligations if fairly well established, She fought the greedy legislature’s desire for the stimulus, she actually challenged Obama to veto it, and start over (the real reason for that Jacket complaint) She has spoken out on missile
defense, in favor of our soldiers and sailors, the arbitraryness of the auto task force, etc.
THat’s the reason she has a 72% approval rating
among the GOP, and rising approval among other
groups

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:59 am 55. materialist:

#40 – “you have to be outstanding in your class to be president of the Harvard Law Review – and gosh, intelligent, too”

And you know this how? Can we assume that you have reviewed the academic records that have been so ardently concealed from the rest of us? Are you perhaps referring to the evident scholarship of the work he actually published in the Harvard Law Review? (Oops, sorry, I forgot that there isn’t any.)

Most ambitious persons who have excelled academically tend to shout that from the housetops. One would expect that an aspiring leader who has been so frequently, and credibly, accused of being an intellectual lightweight who thrived on affirmative action would be particularly anxious to establish his true credentials. Is Mr. Obama actually a such a shining paragon of modesty that he does not wish to embarrass the rest of us by trumpeting his intellectual accomplishments? Do you really believe that? Is there anything you will not believe?

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:00 am 56. Steve:

After every frivolous ethics complaint gets defeated, Sarah should file defamation of character lawsuits against the losers that file them.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:03 am 57. Peter the Bubblehead:

46. carol wrote:
you have to be outstanding in your class to be president of the Harvard Law Review

Peter suggests: Or maybe through Affirmative Action?

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:05 am 58. Kevin:

rwh,

There is an old philosopher’s quote: “It is better to keep your mouth shut and be assumed to be a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.”

You haven’t the slightest f**king idea what you are talking about. If you and the other trolls got off your fat, lazy asses to bother checking sources outside of SNL and Rachel Mad-cow you might know that not only was Palin eminently more qualified than Barry the Kenyan, but she has already accomplished more in her two years as governor than your Messiah even if he were to serve two terms. It’s also worth noting that she, unlike our Kenyan Bastard-In-Chief, as well as most other liberal snobs–has actually had to work for a living.

For starters, her pipeline deal is the biggest energy and construction plan in American history, and will create cheaper energy and more jobs than any worthless stimulus plan of your dear leader. She also kept her state out of recession and built up a multi-BILLION dollar surplus while actually cutting the budget. Her recent column helped shoot down your Messiah’s insane crap-and-tax plan. Her approval ratings are the highest of any governor, even after the disgraceful and still unrelenting media hit job.

The problem with you liberals is that Palin shows more character, courage, and common sense than any of you, and this becomes painfully obvious when you look in the mirror just to see a cockroach staring back at you. So you see the need to tear her down to justify how you feel about your own pathetic selves. Liberal women hate her because A)she wouldn’t murder her unborn, B) because she has a handsome, virile husband and a loving supportive family that they could only dream of having, and C)she is far more attractive than any of them. Maureen Dowd’s writings prove this beyond a reasonable doubt. Liberal men hate her because she has proven that she is more of a man than any of them are.

Carol, she is more woman than a leftist harpy like you could ever be, and Mike, she is not only more woman than you’ll ever get, but more man than you are.

She is a success, and she is happy. She has what you don’t, so you hate her. She is representative of the common middle class, Christian, working American–everything that you claim you stand for. She has revealed how phony and ugly the left is, so she must be destroyed.

She ain’t going away, and something tells me that come November 2012, there’s going to be an epidemic of mass suicide among the leftist scum in this country. Fine by me, I’ll help supply the rope.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:12 am 59. blotto:

It really is funny reading the white progressive supporters of Obama and detractors of Ms. Palin.

For the O supporters: Give us the references and sources for all his collegiate accomplishments. Give us his voting record in the IL Senate. Show us even one review he produced in the Law Review. Give us any court case he worked.

For the Ms. Palin detractors: As has been said, if she is so “fill in the blank” then why are you bothering to charge ethics violations on her; why do you get your panties in a twist trying to impugn and denigrate her; why do you attack her as if she were the Taliban?

No, you morons are afraid of her and those who follow her. You realize that she may be part of a new conservative party that will challenge your “God like” dimwit currently acting as president.

You are using Alinsky’s rules. Good for you. If it makes you feel like you are part of a party that is fast becoming a party of color-be my guest. You are nothing more than white useful idiots.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:13 am 60. Blarty Blarckleblart:

No, you morons are afraid of her and those who follow her.

We really, really, really aren’t.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:19 am 61. DaMonk45:

Carol #45
If this ole Texas boy is a backwoods bible thumper and Im in the same class as Palin then I consider myself VERY lucky!

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:22 am 62. Moho:

It never ceases to amaze me how you can actually quote the laws that Palin violates and then laugh about the fact that people expect her to follow the law–it doesn’t matter if it was the summer version of Kawanzaa as you term the freeing of the last slave,or the winter version of Hillbilly Pig Banging Day–if its a law, then Palin’s administration is obligated to discharge her function as a governor. What is it with you people? Do you actually believe that as long as its people you like, they should be allowed to pick and choose which laws are violated? And which laws are taken seriously?

Keep it up. There’s a reason the popularity of these ideas has fallen to historic lows and there’s a reason why you’re party is now made up mostly of people with an inability to perceive reality [viz, Obama's Birth Certificate].

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:23 am 63. Delia:

LOL@ the term ‘leaker’.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:23 am 64. blotto:

Wow Blarty, what a retort!

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:25 am 65. blotto:

Blarty: Can’t provide any comments on my paras 2 or 3 so you resort to an infantile comment. Boy, that really, really showed me.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:28 am 66. Kevin:

“We really, really, really arent.”

Well Farty, you really, really, really, should be.

And you really, really, really will be.

You all certainly were in the days after the Republican Convention. Aaah, that delicious fear from you Dems was so thick you could cut it with a knife.

Remember that Farty? It’s coming again. Be prepared.

Or maybe you’re just really, really, really stupid.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:31 am 67. Fred:

In the Muslim world, what is happening to Governor Palin is known as ‘legal Jihad’. Throw many legal complaints against someone, even if you do not know them or are involved with them.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:33 am 68. Ronald Moore:

The problum is easy to fix. All they need to do is add an amendment to the Ethics law which allows the state to recoup the cost of the investigation if it is found to be malisious or unfounded and to make the costs X3 the amount. the screeching you would hear is the brakes being put on this B.S. By the way I contributed to the fund and will to Sarah’s upcoming Presidential Campaign.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:34 am 69. Kevin:

#62 moho

You mean like all those other laws she broke? That she was cleared of 18 times?

Can’t wait to see Barry become even more incoherent and gray-haired as Palin takes these pieces of s**t to court one by one and the inevitable path back towards Axelrod reveals itself.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:36 am 70. materialist:

#62 – “There’s a reason the popularity of these ideas has fallen to historic lows …”

Rasmussen – Republicans up 4 pts. in generic congressional ballot, Obama approval index at -7%.

Gallup – many more Americans call themselves conservative than liberal. Fraction of conservatives increasing steadily with Obama in office.

Read ‘em and weep! It looks to me like you folks had your chance, and have already blown it.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:42 am 71. Peter the Bubblehead:

68. Ronald Moore wrote:
The problum is easy to fix. All they need to do is add an amendment to the Ethics law which allows the state to recoup the cost of the investigation if it is found to be malisious or unfounded…

Peter writes: Agreed! A perfect solution, and not just in Alaska, but in all 50 states! It should be instituted immediately.

But you know, like all common sense solutions, it won’t be.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:50 am 72. Blarty Blarckleblart:

Blarty: Can’t provide any comments on my paras 2 or 3 so you resort to an infantile comment.

It was just a statement of fact, blotto. Nobody is afraid of Sarah Palin.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:51 am 73. Tomp:

Look at the lefty rage. I pray Sarah sticks around for many years as a hugh thorn in their ignorant hearts. Let the blood run…..

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:56 am 74. Gozer the Carpathian:

Honestly what’s all the fuss about?

Seriously if you lefties don’t like her fine, she’s no longer Govenor. She’s gone, you got your wish she’s no longer in office. Yet the attacks continue, the baseless “eithics investigations” and constant attacks on her person. Why?

Is it because she’s what you fear most? A strong female republican? Or is it just transferal of anger? You attack her for all the problems you see in Obama but can’t take out on the One?

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:56 am 75. Moho:

Materialist

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-901.html

Actually, you’re really misreading that poll info. The increase has only been one point in the past three weeks, since 6-29, which was only a one point increase from the weeks before. In that same period, Quinnipiac found Democrats ahead–42-34–and Diageo found about the same–39-32. The Diageo figures continue as of 7-13.

What you’re doing is celebrating the margin of error in a poll that’s wildly at odds with the others. But everyone needs a little hope.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:13 am 76. Mike W.:

59. blotto: “If it makes you feel like you are part of a party that is fast becoming a party of color-be my guest. You are nothing more than white useful idiots.”

Thanks for coming out and saying what the rest of these racist pukes don’t have the guts to say: That all of this right-wing rage is really nothing more than a bunch of bitter old angry white idiots who are furious and bitter that a black man is president. Sorry, chief, but unlike you and the rest of your deranged ilk, I don’t define my politics or my affiliations by my skin color.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:23 am 77. carol:

Dave: I did not refer to Biden in my post. Are you listening when Palin opens her mouth? She cannot complete a sentence. I know plenty of people on the right who do not support her. Experts have picked apart her speeches on issues and have easily proven that she does not have the facts or knowledge on issues she tries to address. I believe that a lot of people blindly support her regardless of her qualifications. I did not fall all over myself in stating Obama’s educational record. I simply listed where he went to school. And Kevin, Palin has nothing I want and I am quite happy. I don’t hate her, I just think she is in way over her head. What are her accomplishments?
Peter: Universities have privacy laws that do not permit access to student’s transcripts.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:25 am 78. geokstr:

Blinketyblank Blowhardybart:

Why don’t you and your other troll friends here (if they aren’t just all you under different ID’s) go back to Kos and stink up that site instead? And take vivo with you.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:28 am 79. Frank:

Appreciate the amen Jetboy. Back at ya.

From Alinskey’s rule for radicals:
Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

Someone in the Palin camp figured out RULE # 4 is a double edged sword. Brilliant.

# 67 Fred’s astute observation in naming this a legal jihad nailed it. Curious how the tactics of the left so closely resemble those of the dregs of the planet no? Like I said, it’s the fundamentalist mindset. The big difference between Jihadi fundamentalism and Democrat fundamentalism is that Jihadis will martyr themselves while the Democrats will only martyr their country.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:34 am 80. materialist:

#75-

We can argue about who’s misinterpreting the current numbers in the polls. But the trends are indisputable.

Besides, “hope and change” is what it’s all about, right? Now we are the ones who hope for a change, and can do so with some real cause for confidence.

How’s that “nationalized health care by August” working out for you folks? Dare we “hope” for a few more of those helpful Obama press conferences?

And Rasmussen had Sarah within striking distance even before this latest fiasco! Hope and change!

Cheers!

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:41 am 81. D. Marti:

I keep hearing people say that Palin can’t form a sentence yet he seems to do just fine, exceptional if you compare her to the stammering of booba even when he’s using a teleprompter.

I think what really burns your lefty asses is that a “supposed hick” from Alaska has more executive experience than the corrupt chicago politician you elected as president.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:42 am 82. Skydive:

Geeeeee, Carol,

You are jealous!

That lady has the power to energize people. She can speak from the hart. The guy you voted for is nothing like that.I was listening to his speech yesterday. I thought I was back in Russia, listening to polit burro convention during Brezhnev time.That was mandatory and stupid, just like yesterday. You ar so fond of our president, why? Because you voted for him? The only thing he excelled in is making a graet speech without saying anything. No substance, no specifics, no trust.

Well done, Carol. Pathetic.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:49 am 83. Moho:

I keep hearing people say that Palin can’t form a sentence yet he seems to do just fine, exceptional if you compare her to the stammering of booba even when he’s using a teleprompter.

I don’t think that its as much Palin, as the people who support her. The other thing that people like about Obama is that his sentences make sense–you don’t have to write them down and look at them sideways, upside down and in daylight to try to figure out what was being said. I won’t say that’s a unique attribute of Obama–almost anyone running for high office, including GW Bush, has been able to put words together in sentences to form meaning.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:53 am 84. carol:

“Liberal women hate her because A)she wouldn’t murder her unborn, B) because she has a handsome, virile husband and a loving supportive family that they could only dream of having, and C)she is far more attractive than any of them.”
Your opinion of liberal women is quite narrow and unfortunate.
I would not support murdering an unborn!
As far as a “handsome” “verile” husband, what kind of “qualities” are those? I am surprised that you base any of your opinions on looks and sexuality. How does this qualify a person for office?

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:57 am 85. JohnRJ08:

It is both sad and disturbing that so many Americans think so highly of Sarah Palin, who was an international punch-line during the presidential campaign and who has continued to make one baffling statement after another. The Academy Award-winning director, Elia Kazan, once said that the greatest danger to our democracy during these highly complex times would be if a simple-minded person rose to a position of power in government based on nothing more than their charm. Even though this statement was made in the mid-nineties, Kazan was obviously talking about someone like Palin, who is attractive, strident, and ideologically appealing to the base of the Republican Party. If she were by some quirk of fate ever to get elected to national office, it would be a catastrophe for the nation because she has the communication skills and simplistic mindset of a high school drop-out. Her resigning from office was a classic example of impulsive, poorly thought-out decision making. Those who continue to stand by Palin, in spite of her numerous gaffes and meandering statements, do so because she appeals to their anti-intellectualism and total refusal to consider any opposing view. The Republican National Committee is just beginning to realize the potential damage that a rogue like Palin could do to the party’s interests, and it is in process of distancing itself from her. The best proof of that will be when Republican governors who are up for the re-election fail to invite her to campaign on their behalf. Palin has a strong supporters, but rational people in the party realize that any national ticket that includes her name could never win.

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:00 pm 86. LCB:

LOL. Can’t wait till the Barracuda goes from being a has-been to a never-was. Should take about a week.

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:00 pm 87. carol:

Skydive: Judging by your post, I can see why you had trouble understanding what Obama was saying. You are a Palin supporter and only used to incomplete sentences and no in-depth discussions.

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:04 pm 88. Nate:

14. lefterlypanda:
“…but come on, at least pick someone that can name the 3 countries that make up north America..”

If Guatemala, Belize, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama don’t count I don’t see why Mexico should. And I’m even letting you get away with ignoring all the island nations. You know, Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Greenland. I think Iceland is on the plate too, but since it’s halfway to Europe and historically tied to Europe I’m fine with calling it European if you want.

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:17 pm 89. Moogie:

#40 Carol: “Obama attended Occidental College for two years, then got his B.A. from Columbia University. He later got his law degree from Harvard Law School (where he became the Harvard Law Review’s first african american person president), graduating magna cum laude. Obama was also a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.So, guys, can you see the obvious difference here?”

Yeah: Obama doesn’t know shit from shinola.

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:27 pm 90. Butters Dad:

JohnRJ08 @ 85.

Hey, Bub, your Kazan analogy fits the current POTUS perfectly. Must be one of those “can’t see the forest for the trees” things, huh?

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:33 pm 91. Moogie:

#85 JohnRwhatever: “It is both sad and disturbing that so many Americans think so highly of Barack Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, who was an international candyman during the presidential campaign and who has continued to make one baffling statement after another. The Academy Award-winning director, Elia Kazan, once said that the greatest danger to our democracy during these highly complex times would be if a simple-minded person rose to a position of power in government based on nothing more than their charm. Even though this statement was made in the mid-nineties, Kazan was obviously talking about someone like Obama, who is attractive, strident, and ideologically appealing to the base of the socialist/leftist Party. If he were by some quirk of fate ever to get elected to national office, it would be a catastrophe for the nation because he has the communication skills and simplistic mindset of a high school drop-out. His association with known domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, crook Tony Rezko, terrorist supporter Khalid, and attendance at a hateful “church” with a “minister” who spews racism every chance he gets, was a classic example of impulsive, poorly thought-out decision making. Those who continue to stand by Obama, in spite of his numerous gaffes and meandering statements, do so because he appeals to their anti-common sense and total refusal to consider any opposing view. The smart American people are just beginning to realize the potential damage that a rogue like Obama could do to the nation’s interests, and it is in process of distancing itself from him. The best proof of that will be when democrat governors who are up for the re-election fail to invite him to campaign on their behalf. Obama has brainwashed supporters, but rational people in the party realize that any chance of re-election in 2012 could never win.

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:36 pm 92. Roland:

Sarah WOULD HAVE shown McCain a thing or two about how to take the fight to the opponent if they hadn’t muzzled her during the campaign. Sarah does best when she is calling her shots, and I applaud her fighting these jackoffs who filed bogus complaints against her.

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:45 pm 93. DJR:

It may be an underestimate of the left. Sarah had to leave the energy board to fight the board. She now has left the Governorship to fight the government. It’s not unrealistic at this point to believe that the USA has lived under the same political presence since Bush senior stated a new world order. All of them including the present one. Americans want sovereignty. People did not risk their lives on rafts, sun killing deserts, holes of cargo ships, and escape from the terror in the mid east to come to a land that is playing footsie with the world tyrants and slavers. Juneteenth? Why don’t you hit the streets and ask people when it is and how they celebrate. I truly believe the people did not vote on the measure, and thus again laws were passed with out representation. People who say she doesn’t get it or believe she is to simple need to get a job, work the floor, stock the shelves, throw the hammer. In America today we need a knew old lesson, bitches and punk CEO;s need time with the gangs. No more spoon feed sluts who just receive and then steal. Your gonna work two three mounths every year. 1) It’s healthy. 2) It will take very little work time to teach you and every arrogant manager out there that they aren’t _ + _ T . We may even hear Obama say we need more job”s. We need industry to improve America. We need work with benefits not socialized bureaucracy and government theft. Intellects are a blight on our society, their view points are nix, and born of non experience. When it comes to stupid, leaders of the present situation take the prize.

Jul 23, 2009 - 12:58 pm 94. carol:

JohnRJ08: Good post and well written, unlike most of the comments here. You are correct when you say that she appeals to anti-intellectuals and people with an extremely narrow point of view. She is someone who never matured after high school.

Jul 23, 2009 - 1:12 pm 95. malclave:

I’ve already donated to the fund set up to help pay her defense fees.

Can someone set up another fund to go after these hacks? I’ll donate some more.

Jul 23, 2009 - 1:18 pm 96. malclave:

@40

carol –

Yeah, Obama got multiple degrees in Affirmative Action. So what?

Jul 23, 2009 - 1:24 pm 97. Pat J:

I find it amazing how so many hopes rest on Sarah Palin. She and her family are certainly not paragons of moral virtue. Palin accuses Obama of palling around with terrorists while her husband pals around with secessionists. Her daughter bears a child out of wedlock and all of a sudden she’s pro-abstinence? And 19 alleed ethics violations. She makes Blagojovich seem pale in comparison. Give it up. She’s a fool. She’s more stupid than Reagan and George W. Bush combined.

Jul 23, 2009 - 1:34 pm 98. carol:

Malclave: Typical mindset of a Palin supporter. Your comment is “frivolous”

Jul 23, 2009 - 1:35 pm 99. Matt:

The fact that the news is not covering more about this Palin controversy is remarkable. She left a job in the middle of her term and the news covers one day of it!

What happens if McCain was elected president and she was our VP? You can NOT leave office mid-term because your being hammered by critics. This is a joke, and CNN isn’t covering anything about it besides on the site.

Depressing, truly depressing what I wouldn’t give to have BBC news as our national news coverage.

Jul 23, 2009 - 1:37 pm 100. JohnRJ08:

#90 Butter’s Dad– This is exactly what I was talking about. The notion that Sarah Palin has anything approaching President Obama’s credentials and intellect is nothing short of phantasmagorical.

Palin’s resume includes being a local TV station sportscaster and beauty pageant contestant with BA in journalism after having attended a half dozen small colleges. Her political skills were honed in a town that has fewer people in it than my local neighborhood, and a state that has a smaller population than most major cities. Forget her disastrous unscripted interviews during the campaign and her absurd accusations about Obama. Forget her absolutely preposterous remarks, such as being able to see Russia from her home. Just look at her singularly undistinguished academic background. Now, lie to yourself and say that education doesn’t mean much when it comes to being an effective leader who can deal with complex issues.

Obama graduated from Columbia, then worked as a community organizer in a city that has 5 times the population of the state of Alaska. He then graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School. A gifted communicator, attorney, and recognized Constitutional scholar, Obama was a United States Senator for the 5th largest state in the Union. Has anybody who supports Obama said he was perfect, or that he is the “messiah”. No. Those are the kinds of puerile comments that come from people who simply refuse to hear the facts.

Speaking of facts, these comments about Obama “paling around with domestic terrorists” and associating with underworld figures like Tony Rezko were debunked long ago, as was the trumped controversy over his birth place. Yet Palin supporters, who have nothing of any interest to say about her, continue to pull out their dirt bags. Like her, it doesn’t matter what you’re for as much as what you’re against, and that is politics of the most cynical kind.

Jul 23, 2009 - 1:41 pm 101. Valerie Jay:

As a moderate and a fair person, I do not dislike Sarah Palin. She seems like an interesting person, really a entertaining figure, probably someone I would like to know. However,she does not belong on the national political stage. John McCain did her a great disservice when he selected her for his VP. She immediately revealed her lack on knowledge on so many fronts that she became a comical figure. That was unfortunate. Her attack-dog remarks appealed only to a select few while others saw her as a totally disgusting candidate. Once an opinion like this has been formed it is almost impossible to change it. If she choses to stay in the spotlight, the far-right fringe of the party will egg her on but, no matter what happens, most people do not see a qualified candidate and would never vote for her. That is the true story.

Jul 23, 2009 - 1:52 pm 102. Yeshuason:

MOHO:
Do you actually believe that as long as its people you like, they should be allowed to pick and choose which laws are violated? And which laws are taken seriously?

>>Let’s put your theroy to the test, You must remember to declare a ethnic non holiday down in Texas, or you must remember to fully support your Qualification for the Presidency in the United States.

>>>The first from the perspective of an Alaskan Resident a hundred years after the fact the second from the Perspective of someone with a Constitutional Law Degree, during the election as a Senator.

Moho:Keep it up. …there’s a reason why you’re party is now made up mostly of people with an inability to perceive reality [viz, Obama's Birth Certificate].

>>>Now look in the mirror and realize how you are seen by the “rest of the Nation”

>>>Case closed.

Jul 23, 2009 - 2:00 pm 103. "progressive"watch:

Didn’t Willian Jefferson Clinton initiate these legal defense funds with the Bill Clinton Monica Legal Protection from Interms Fund? Which was seeded with oil sheik and Chinese money.

Jul 23, 2009 - 2:13 pm 104. Jack West:

Sarah Palin may be a star with some Republicans, but all anyone needs to do is listen to her for about 2 minutes to realize she is pretty and likeable but not Presidential material. School board or town council maybe.

Jul 23, 2009 - 2:18 pm 105. polkabout:

#85 “…the greatest danger to our democracy during these highly complex times would be if a simple-minded person rose to a position of power in government based on nothing more than their charm.”

That is exactly what we have now with our POTUS. He has no prior qualifications. He didn’t even do his job as a senator. Voting “present” does not give him qualifications.

Jul 23, 2009 - 2:31 pm 106. JohnRJ08:

#105 polkabout– I know your kidding here. Any person who knows what POTUS stands for couldn’t possibly believe that Palin is even remotely close to Obama in terms of experience, intelligence and an ability to communicate complex ideas. Palin couldn’t get her mind organized enough to answer softball questions from Katie Couric, while Obama has demonstrated an astonishing ability to deal with multiple crises despite an obstructionist Republican Party. You also couldn’t possibly mean that Obama achieved nothing while in the Senate, or that all he did was say “present”. Here we are, only 8 months after many economists said we were in for a severe 3-year recession, and the DOW is at an 8-month high while home sales are finally going up. AT&T and GM profits are performing above projections and the stimulus package has barely kicked into gear. And now he is working the most important and complicated issue any president has ever faced– health care reform. Anybody who thinks Sarah Palin could have handled any one of the issues Obama has faced 1/10th as well is on crack. Even noted conservative pundits have remarked about Obama’s ability to focus intensely on so many issues simultaneously. After 8 years of a president who was on perpetual vacation, this is a refreshing and reassuring thing to see.

Jul 23, 2009 - 2:52 pm 107. polkabout:

#106
There is no excuse for this number of “not voting” for anyone.

His record – http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:12 pm 108. Peter the Bubblehead:

77. carol wrote:
Peter: Universities have privacy laws that do not permit access to student’s transcripts.

Peter writes: Then I’m just suppoed to take your word for it that Omaba was a brillient student but Palin was a dunce.

Nice try.

Every other candidate for high office makes his record available for the constituents to see and form opinions over as to whether they would be suitable in the office they are running for. Obama has kept his records closely guarded since the start.

What is he hiding? What doesn’t he want the public to know?

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:15 pm 109. Peter the Bubblehead:

97. Pat J wrote:
And 19 alleed ethics violations.

Peter writes: Hey Patty, maybe you missed the whole point of the article, but perhaps you missed the fact of those 19 alleged violations, she has been found guilty of…

(wait for it…)

NONE!

That’s right, she has NOT committed any ethics violations. None, Nada, Zip, Zilch.

Go take your attempted strawman elsewhere.

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:21 pm 110. Peter the Bubblehead:

99. Matt wrote:
You can NOT leave office mid-term because your being hammered by critics.

Peter writes: Try gathering your facts before making accusations. She is NOT leaving office because of stress, being hammered by critics, or any of the excuses her enemies are claiming.

She decided to resign office because of all these continuing BASELESS accusations and the expense they are costing the state to investigate only to come to the same conclusion EACH AND EVERY TIME! She HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG!

She is tired of Alaska having to waste money investigating these baseless accusations and the citizens of Alaska are tired of the money being wasted, and obviously Palin feels she can better serve the people in a different position than Governor right now.

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:25 pm 111. Peter the Bubblehead:

101. Valerie Jay wrote:
As a moderate and a fair person, I do not dislike Sarah Palin. She seems like an interesting person, really a entertaining figure, probably someone I would like to know. However,she does not belong on the national political stage.

Peter wrote: Tell that to all the people in Alaska who voted for her as Governor of their state. And the 75% of its citizens who still support her. And that’s only one state.

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:26 pm 112. Peter the Bubblehead:

104. Jack West wrote:
School board or town council maybe.

Peter writes: Really? Then please explain how she became a very popular GOVERNOR?

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:30 pm 113. Peter the Bubblehead:

106. JohnRJ08 wrote:
Any person who knows what POTUS stands for couldn’t possibly believe that Palin is even remotely close to Obama in terms of experience, intelligence and an ability to communicate complex ideas.

Peter writes: You’re right. Palin is VASTLY superior, considering Obama can’t even give a simple interview, no less a major speech, with out his teleprompters in front of him or he sounds like a babbling idiot that would make Gomer Pyle proud. Palin, even at the end of her term as Governor, is increasingly popular in Alaska, while The Won’s ratings drop like a sinking stone. Palin works hard to do her job successfully, Obama can only threaten and cajole people to do his will or they get the infamous glare.

You’re right, Palin is DEFINITELY an improvement over Obama.

Jul 23, 2009 - 3:35 pm 114. Blarty Blarckleblart:

Sarah Palin: Ralph Nader of the right.

RUN SARAH RUN!

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:07 pm 115. myth buster:

carol- the issue never was Palin’s qualifications for office, her record speaks for itself. Feminists hate Palin out of jealousy and spite, not because she is unfit for office, but because she puts the lie to everything they believe in. The fact that she has a great career, five children, a handsome husband, a healthy sex life and manages to fulfill all her duties while caring for a special needs baby and helping take care of her grandson creates a cognitive dissonance in their minds. They don’t think such a thing is possible, and she proves them wrong. They just can’t handle it.

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:27 pm 116. Immanuel Goldstein:

Sarah Palin is the embodiment of the citizen politician, as envisioned by the founding fathers. She is not a humorless, talentless grind like Obama, Either of the Clintons, Biden, or any one of the massive numbers of career politicians who have sucked at the public trough for so long that they have forgotten how to earn an honest buck. True, she lacks an Ivy League law degree. So What? So her academic credentials are less than stellar. Who cares? Maybe at 20, Sarah was less than a serious student, or perhaps even something of a party girl. Maybe it took marriage and motherhood to give her a serious outlook on life. Maybe the experience of managing a commercial fishing business has as much value as being a political hack Chicago crime syndicate ward healer. Her growth as a politician is normal, starting with the PTA. She ran for the city council of her home town, and won. She ran for mayor, and won that. Her mayor seat gave her a window onto statewide politics, and she saw the corruption her own party had sunk into, and then ran for Governor on a reform platform, and won that race as well. As Governor, she cleaned up the state, and engineered the biggest privately financed energy project in history, something no one has come close to equalling. And she did it in the state farthest away from Washington as you can get and still be in the nation. Her appeal is simple. She is the antithesis of the inside the beltway politician, and the biggest threat to the institutional corruption of Washington politics.

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:31 pm 117. Anonymous:

Peter: Gosh, you must have some inside information or had a conversation with Palin to know exactly why she resigned. Resigning was right up there with her other high school antics. She “ain’t” qualified!

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:31 pm 118. Kevin:

I don’t give a f**k where Obama went to school or what degrees he supposedly has (show us the records). He doesn’t have a lick of basic common sense.

Say what you want about Palin, but at least the beauty queen had common sense enough to recognize that prostrating ourselves before our enemies and begging their forgiveness is not in our best interests. She also had the intelligence to speak out against gutting our nuclear defenses when N. Korea is shooting F**king missiles at us! Yet you idiots think that Obama knows anything about foreign policy. Wake the hell up!

Oh, and once again, Sarah Palin has the necessary knowledge of energy policy, and a good track record of it, to make us completely energy independent. What is Obama’s plan? Destroying the coal industry, windmills, and staying hooked on Arab oil. Real leadership there.

I think that petulant little display last night shows how completely out of his league he is. God help us.

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:33 pm 119. Kevin:

For all you brain-dead Obambots who think that Palin can’t speak, take a look at your Messiah here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:45 pm 120. Peter the Bubblehead:

117. Anonymous wrote (anonymously):
Peter: Gosh, you must have some inside information or had a conversation with Palin to know exactly why she resigned.

Peter writes: No, I simply research my facts and state what I have learned from reading relevant articles on-line. Pretty simple. Maybe you should try it some time.

Jul 23, 2009 - 4:48 pm 121. Kevin:

Anonymous, any dumbass who bothered to look up the facts know why she resigned. Her ability to do her job has been destroyed. Since the campaign ended Axelrod’s thug team have filed twenty (so far) frivolous ethics complaints which have forced the Governor to spend eighty percent of her time in court defending herself against, and which has cost millions of state dollars and threatened her family with bankruptcy. The fact that every one of these allegations has been thrown out doesn’t change the fact that she still has to cover the legal costs. Her family and her duties as governor have suffered as a result, so she made a sacrifice for her constituents and her family.

Why don’t you ask Obama whether or not it was ethical to abandon his Senate duties to start campaigning for President as soon as he was elected, and why he kept receiving a paycheck from the taxpayers for NOT doing the job he was elected to do?

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:00 pm 122. Moogie:

Peter the Bubblehead and Immanuel Goldstein: I’m sure glad you two were in here to clean up after the troll attack. I came back a couple of times to check on things, but didn’t have time to leave a comment. It almost looked as though the trolls had taken over control of this forum!

Whew!

I absolutely frigging LOVE the fact that liberals don’t “get” Sarah. That’s fine with me.

I also absolutely LOVE the fact that liberals still worship that empty suit occupying the White House. Again, that’s fine with me. You guys go jump on his ship and enjoy sinking. I’ll jump on Sarah’s ship, and like the RMS Carpathia, maybe we’ll be able to rescue a few survivors.

You’d better hope Barry’s ship has enough life vests and life boats.

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:30 pm 123. Moogie:

1. The cost of Obama’s inauguration: $170 million.

2. Cost of Michelle’s sneakers: $800

3. Cost of imported Japanese beef: $100/lb

4. Cost of the video posted by #119 Kevin: PRICELESS

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:34 pm 124. Moogie:

General question (ie: rhetorical): why do libs and leftists hate Sarah so much? Has she invaded their personal space? Has she made administrative decisions that have a negative impact on their lives? Does she have any power whatsoever over them?

Perhaps its what she represents that they hate so much, and not the woman herself. I suppose, being a successful career woman she threatens the metrosexual manhood of leftist males. They probably feel horribly emmasculated by her very existence. The audacity (snark) of her determination must make them feel rather helpless.

Why to leftist and liberal women hate Sarah? Perhaps because she doesn’t come in a pre-defined package. Perhaps because she takes care of herself and (gasp!) actually wears make-up. Maybe it’s because she will not let feminists dictate what she should be – she chooses what she will be without their permission. Perhaps they hate her because she has been able to realize the feminite ideal and they haven’t.

Why to party-liners hate her? Maybe it’s because she refuses to step in line, like an obedient little Brown Coat, and pay lip service to their blather. Maybe it’s because she took on corrupt members of her own party in Alaska and she pwned the hell out of them. Maybe they feel threatened – perhaps they fear she’ll see the corruption in them and call them out on it.

Why do intellectuals hate her so much? What do they have to fear from someone whom they call “stupid” and “uneducated?” You would think she would merit no more than a passing glance, if they really felt she was beneath their very contempt. But they don’t just stop at a vicious insult – they grind it in with salt and yet more venomous hyperbole about how much smarter an ivy leaguer is than her. What are they afraid of?

The more noise they tend to make about how much they hate her, the more those of us who happen to support her dig in our heels. In fact, the mere fact of their hatred is ample reason for me to not hate her, since liberals and leftists live in their own distorted reality, where good is bad and bad is good and evil is to be coddled and bowed to and good is to be punished.

Keep up the hating, folks. You are fine examples of humanity at its worst.

Jul 23, 2009 - 5:55 pm 125. Peter the Bubblehead:

Thanks Moogie. It’s nice to know my efforts are appreciated.

Jul 23, 2009 - 6:30 pm 126. jackphatz:

Carols admission proves how liberal women can not comprehend how another woman can become successful without first “belittleing” themselves as a victim. Carols right, it all goes back to the fact Palin did not seek an abortion. Why liberal women have put so much into the abortion issue is beyond comprehension. Carol, grow up, look around. You don’t have to be a victim-unless you choose to be.

Jul 23, 2009 - 7:08 pm 127. Moogie:

Peter: You’re welcome.

As a good basketball once told his team: Make sure YOU set the pace. As soon as you let the other team set the pace, you’ll spend the rest of the game chasing after them while they have control of the ball.

This is our forum – let’s make sure the trolls don’t get the ball and set the pace.

Jul 23, 2009 - 7:26 pm 128. shau-jan:

1.ashok.”the Left needs to be ashamed for engaging in constant whining, and see themselves as petty, cruel, and willing to break the law and hurt others for no good reason”

if that happened it would jonestown times a thousand,wouldn’t be worth it,they’re too unhinged…..and WHO would we mock?

17.”Sarah who, again?”

i don’t really know…. i hear it’s some chick from alaska who’s going to throw an Indescribable beatdown on some well deserving recipients.

man,oh man they’e BUSING in the trolls on this one!whatta you guy’s get…a lunchable and a ‘YES WE CAN!’ bumpersticker?

just….loving the fear.

Jul 23, 2009 - 7:29 pm 129. shau-jan:

an after thought….how about one the more anoited present produce for the rest of us obama’s grades or papers he published during his steller stint in academia.i cannot seem to locate them myself.

Jul 23, 2009 - 7:40 pm 130. materialist:

Let me second Moogie. Thanks for speaking for so many Americans, Peter.

I find it fascinating that the most accurate pollster, and about the only one who polls “likely voters” has Sarah within 6 of Obama, after all the vicious attacks from all the well-motivated members of the Establishment, including quite a few of the “Republican elite”. Speaking as one who was there at the beginning – the Goldwater campaign in ‘64 – I have been a fighter in the ranks for a hopeless cause and lived to see virtue triumph (and then get washed away by those with good intentions, but, bluntly, less sense.

I am seriously beginning to think the left has “blown its wad” on the Palin matter. They have hit her with more insult, invective and pejorative innuendo than any serious politician in American history has had to bear – even more than Goldwater had to take – and she is within six points with three years to go.

Any leftist (or RINO) who suggests that she is not a genuinely viable candidate is out of touch with this nation on this planet. And they know it – that’s why the vile language and the Obama-style hubris.

I frankly don’t know if Sarah will ultimately prove to be presidential material, just as I did not know as late as 1978 that Ronald Reagan, as much as I admired him, had what it took to win. Time will tell.

But the trolls who write her off don’t even believe their own rhetoric. Are they blasting Huckleby, or Romney, or even Gingrich? They are, but rarely, and with cannon that shoot nerfballs. The hard ammunition is reserved for Sarah. And this is because they are so sure she can’t win that they want us to nominate her? If so, I have a bridge for sake that I can auction for the big bucks to Carol and colleagues.

Remember when they were telling us the guy who could beat them all was John McCain? Fool me twice, shame on me!

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:11 pm 131. UsaBruce:

For myself, I don’t care what the scum Left thinks about Sarah. I’m backing her because she stands for and lives by good decent principles. Principles that the scum Left mock and disdain. This country , bottom line, is divided into decent people and scum. You can tell the difference in the responses on this thread. I believe there are more good, decent people than the scum that are clawing and gnashing to tear down anything good or American. 2010 will determine if this is true.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:19 pm 132. JohnRJ08:

Dear “Peter the Bubblehead”, I don’t do this very often but, in your case, I’ll make an exception. You’re an idiot.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:20 pm 133. Thomas Hazlewood:

In case it’s been forgotten, this tactic of filing frivolous and dubious complaints was used against Newt Gingrich when he was the House Majority Leader. There were over TWO THOUSAND complaints brought against him in the House, of which only TWO were found to have any basis. But, they all absorbed time, attention, and money to be fought…..which, of course, was the real reason for the avalanche of false charges.

Jul 23, 2009 - 8:38 pm 134. john m e:

what a shame. I can’t recall at any time seeing the volume of vacuous
churlish rant on this site, that I see today. Please ,those of you who present the well thought out in cogent manner, ignore those who flail and spew their silly little incoherent babble and party pap. They know who they are and why they’re running scared. Thanks to those of you who share your views honestly and civilly.

Jul 23, 2009 - 9:50 pm 135. Libby:

I’ve tallied up the score. Palin backers win because they know what they are talking about.

The Obats lose because they cannot even figure out how to create a good cover to make themselves look credible. Nor do they work with facts in their posts.

John from cinncinatti wins the certified idiots award for not being able to spell Cincinnati, the city he claims to “come from”.

Obats, I know you have been sent out by Dear Leader to do a job on those who disagree with him, but you might want to go back to the cave and get more training before hitting the boards again. Dear Leader is no doubt embarrassed by your current efforts.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:25 pm 136. Sonny:

The only thing I am bothered by is that I am limited to $150.00 to contribute to her legal defense fund. I would be contributing a whole lot more. Everytime a law suit is filed, the anger in me arises and I am disgusted I am limited in my ability to help her out.

God bless her and her family.

Jul 23, 2009 - 10:31 pm 137. Peggy:

Go Moogie, Go Moogie, Go Moogie!!

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:12 pm 138. Dero:

According to the ethics complaints, Palin was found to be dodging taxes and she also had to pay back travel expenses. Now it looks like taking money from her legal defense fund is illegal and will be stopped.

The same people that spent all their time crying about Geithner now think Palin’s indiscretions are perfectly fine. Kinda funny.

Jul 23, 2009 - 11:35 pm 139. D. Marti:

yeah moho “you don’t have to write them down and look at them sideways, upside down and in daylight to try to figure out what was being said”

pure BS just jumps right out atcha

Jul 24, 2009 - 4:12 am 140. Peter the Bubblehead:

130. JohnRJ08 wrote:
Dear “Peter the Bubblehead”, I don’t do this very often but, in your case, I’ll make an exception. You’re an idiot.

Peter writes: Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Even a$$holes when they’re wrong.

Jul 24, 2009 - 4:51 am 141. Kevin:

Hey Dero, she hasn’t taken money out of the defense fund. Not even this latest report says that she has. One stupid ethics complaint was filed just for HAVING the legal defense fund, so she can’t access that money even for its intended purpose.

As for the tax problems, she herself initiated that question to the IRS. When it was discovered that she did owe money, she paid it, plain and simple.

Epic fail. Try again. And look somewhere else besides Kos for your inane talking points.

Jul 24, 2009 - 4:52 am 142. Peter the Bubblehead:

What’s the matter, John? Don’t have any real FACTS to refute my arguements, so you have to stoop the the typical libtard method of insults?

Typical.

Jul 24, 2009 - 4:52 am 143. Peter the Bubblehead:

136. Dero wrote:
The same people that spent all their time crying about Geithner now think Palin’s indiscretions are perfectly fine. Kinda funny.

Peter writes: Please show me where Governor Palin owes $80,000+ in back taxes.

And please show me where it says it is illegal to create defense funds? Cop-killer murderers have them all the time to pay their legal bills, and they’re GUILTY of the charges against them! Why can’t an honest politician?

Jul 24, 2009 - 4:56 am 144. mike:

We love Sarah. Keep fighting the good fight. 2012!

Jul 24, 2009 - 6:13 am 145. Blarty Blarckleblart:

I know how much y’all love polls around here.

53% of Americans view Palin unfavorably.

Let’s see: unqualified for high office; unshakable belief in her own rectitude; tiny but fierce following who think she walks on water… she’s the Nader of the Right, all right!

Jul 24, 2009 - 6:34 am 146. Sapwolf:

Sarah Palin is quite possibly the cleanest most ethical governor we’ve had in the USA in a long time.

Also, the Washington Post / ABC poll can’t be taken seriously since ABC is half-way to an extension of the Obama Administration.

If it ain’t Rasmussen, it ain’t believable. And, Rasmussen has Sarah behind Obama only by 6 points, which is a big improvement over the 20 points back previously.

People are gonna eventually get to know the REAL Sarah Palin. She is a western liberatarian/conservative who is the outsider fighting the insider DC crowd of Obama/Pelosi/Reid/GOP insiders.

Over the next year, as she grows nationally and Obama continues to fail for obvious reasons, she will close the gap completely.

Will she get a majority of urban voters? No. Does she need that? No.

All she has to do is simply move 4% back to her side, increase GOP turnout, and take Colorado.

Once she inherits the Tea Party Movement, Obama is in real trouble.

I got nothing but kudos for my Sarah Palin poster at the latest Tea Party.

People are learning that she is like most Americans, an outsider displeased with the educated elitists and how they are destroying the country that they love.

Jul 24, 2009 - 8:42 am 147. JohnRJ08:

I don’t think the central issue is whether or not Sarah Palin is ethical. All politicians get into mischief now and then, and even Sarah Palin is capable of taking advantage of the system. The key problem with Palin, to the exclusion of everything else, is her substandard intellect and confused world-view. She can’t speak intelligently about anything that takes place outside of her state, and even some Alaskans would dispute that. A lot of middle-aged men seem very taken with Palin’s looks and her spirit, and some women seem to think they have something in common with her. Other than that, Palin is an empty vessel looking for a dock.

Jul 24, 2009 - 9:12 am 148. wrg:

85. JohnRJ08:

It is both sad and disturbing that so many Americans think so highly of Palin Obama.The Academy Award-winning director, Elia Kazan, once said that the greatest danger to our democracy during these highly complex times would be if a simple-minded person rose to a position of power in government based on nothing more than their charm. Even though this statement was made in the mid-nineties, Kazan was obviously talking about someone like Palin Obama, who is attractive, strident, and ideologically appealing to the base of the Republican Democratic Party. If she were by some quirk of fate ever to get be elected to national office, it would be a catastrophe for the nation because she he has the communication skills and simplistic mindset of a high school drop-out.

Fixed it for you John.

Jul 24, 2009 - 9:13 am 149. Blarty Blarckleblart:

146 Sapwolf

Replace a few words, and you sound just like a Naderite, circa 1999.

Jul 24, 2009 - 9:22 am 150. wrg:

85. JohnRJ08:

It is both sad and disturbing that so many Americans think so highly of Obama.The Academy Award-winning director, Elia Kazan, once said that the greatest danger to our democracy during these highly complex times would be if a simple-minded person rose to a position of power in government based on nothing more than their charm. Even though this statement was made in the mid-nineties, Kazan was obviously talking about someone like Obama, who is attractive, strident, and ideologically appealing to the base of the Democratic Party. If she were by some quirk of fate ever to get be elected to national office, it would be a catastrophe for the nation because he has the communication skills and simplistic mindset of a high school drop-out.

Fixed it for you John.

Jul 24, 2009 - 9:38 am 151. JohnRJ08:

wrg– took you two tries, but you finally got your lame attempt at sarcasm to work.. sort of. Your post is typical of others on this website, which fail to respond to any specifics at all, and just resort to puerile wisecracks. Yours and other’s comments here only serve to confirm the quality of Palin supporters. Keep up the good work.

Jul 24, 2009 - 11:15 am 152. kkelly:

If this is costing her so much money…

Why is she buying a home in the Hamptons? (Actually 3 right next to each other)

Just sayin’!

Jul 24, 2009 - 12:32 pm 153. carol:

Sapwolf: you must have some inside information about Palin’s cleanliness. Can you prove it?
I’m waiting for the truth to come out as to why she resigned. It couldn’t be over her hurt feelings about the complaints. Her lawyers get paid anyway, so there is not much truth to it.

Jul 24, 2009 - 1:16 pm 154. carol:

Shau=jan: you should know that Universities have privacy laws/policies that prevent them from making student records public. I work at a University.

Jul 24, 2009 - 1:19 pm 155. carol:

Jackphatz: What? I don’t recall posing as a victim. Palin is the one who does that.

Jul 24, 2009 - 1:25 pm 156. carol:

Kevin: Wake up there man! The news in North Korea isn’t exactly new, so Palin’s statement about missile defense is waaaayyyy after the fact. They’ve been a threat ever since I can remember. She certainly doesn’t know her history.

Jul 24, 2009 - 1:29 pm 157. carol:

Libby: you are a prime example of a Palin supporter and I find that sad.

Jul 24, 2009 - 1:32 pm 158. carol:

Moogle: people do not “get” Palin because they cannot understand what she is saying. She cannot form a sentence and knows nothing about complex issues.

Jul 24, 2009 - 1:35 pm 159. carol:

“The fact that she has a great career, five children, a handsome husband, a healthy sex life and manages to fulfill all her duties while caring for a special needs baby and helping take care of her grandson creates a cognitive dissonance in their minds.”
Mythbuster: I don’t consider a handsome husband and a healthy sex life as a criteria for success. A lot of Palin supporters too often refer to her looks, her handsome husband, etc. Looks do not make the person. You do not understand women, at least not any with a brain.

Jul 24, 2009 - 1:41 pm 160. shau-jan:

carol:so if you had his bona fides,would you spend a ton of cash keeping them a secret?obama has written TWO auto-biographies but we cannot read any papers he wrote in law school or even know what grade he received in home ec.,obama is obsessively controlling the narrative for some reason.

for what reason…i am going to have to go with occam’s razor on this one,he has things to hide.

Jul 24, 2009 - 1:59 pm 161. Peter the Bubblehead:

Has anyone else noticed the core of the libtards arguement about Palin is;

“Palin is an idiot because she’s an idiot. I know this because the Daily Kos and Democratic Party tell me this and so it must be true.”

No facts. No evidence. Just opinion, and you know what they say about opinions…

Opinions are like…

Jul 24, 2009 - 2:13 pm 162. shau-jan:

carol:if everything about palin were the same except that her political philosophy was more aligned with yours,would you still hold her in such contempt?are you saying her accomplishments wouldn’t impress you?

be honest.

Jul 24, 2009 - 2:30 pm 163. Kevin:

156. carol

No idiot, YOU wake up. She came out and said this the day after Obama was promising the mideast that he would reduce our nuclear capabilities, which was the VERY DAY AFTER N.KOREA LAUNCHED THAT MISSILE.

Are you so stupid you can’t put two and two together?

Jul 24, 2009 - 3:20 pm 164. Kevin:

159. carol

“I don’t consider a handsome husband and a healthy sex life criteria for success.”

That’s the second time you’ve posted that. get some new material. And stop trying to put words in our mouths. None of us said that her personal life qualifies her for office and you know it. What we are saying is that these and many other things about her personal life are the reason why her very existence drives people like you into a jealous mouth-foaming rage. Your reaction to her is a visceral, sadistic hatred that is reminiscent of bitchy high school girls who hate the girl that is more popular and prettier than they are. The fact that this is how you are presenting your argument proves that this is the root of your obsession about her. Get some help.

I also need to remind you liberals who claim that our support of Sarah Palin is all about physical attraction: YOU are the ones who consistently ignore her record to harp on the fact that she was a beauty queen. It was YOUR side that wrote magazine articles about Obama’s “glistening pecs” and splashed his bathing suit shots all over the front page. It was a NYTimes blogger who wrote dreamily about her sexual fantasies of him. It was the liberal shrews on the View that were all practically sitting in his lap telling him how sexy he is. It was a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT pornographer who made a porn film with a Sarah Palin lookalike. Just like it was a liberal reporter who once said how much she wanted to give Clinton a blow job, remember?

Psychologists call it projection, and nobody does it better than the Left.

Give that infantile garbage a rest carol, or do you still have yet to graduate from high school?

Jul 24, 2009 - 3:45 pm 165. longun45:

Sarah is not perfect, and her family is not perfect. So what. Frivolous lawsuits by any other name are still a drain and a hindrance. Maybe she will go after the “leakers” after all they are the one’s who wanted to pick a fight. Sounds like we have a lot of corrupt people up in Alaska who know only that they are unfulfilled and jealous.

Heck we don’t celebrate junteen here in vegas either. Why would they in Alaska, do the inuits celebrate it as well? There are some very petty little mouths on this board and they need to grow up and become adults. You know who you are.

Jul 24, 2009 - 5:33 pm 166. Kevin:

Oh, and in case you missed it the first time I posted it, here’s the your great intellectual orator in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

He makes Sarah Palin look like Demosthenes, and if the Obama-fellating press-titutes crammed this into the public’s head the same way they did the Couric interview this guy would have been laughed back into the Chicago projects.

Jul 24, 2009 - 6:33 pm 167. Kevin:

Here’s another one for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?=ap2Cg_FDRy4

Jul 24, 2009 - 6:45 pm 168. Kevin:

Oops. Messed up the link. Sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap2Cg_FDRy4

Jul 24, 2009 - 6:49 pm 169. catlee:

I live in Houston and who gives a damn about this holiday. This is only for Galveston.. Palin needs to go after these liberals and show who she is. She is a conservative and intelligent woman. The problem is that we as women can not be conservative, but we are. Never forget, Conservative is the majority…

Jul 24, 2009 - 6:58 pm 170. Michael:

Ya gotta love the “Amy Winehouse” beehive that palin wears…to bad she can’t sing like Amy.

Jul 24, 2009 - 7:59 pm 171. Adopted:

I wish people who hate Sarah and call her dumb or dishonest would read her biography and learn more about her. I just finished How a Hockey Mom Turned Alaska’s Political Establishment Upside Down, and it was very interesting. Among the things you will learn (if you bother):

1. She has always been a bookwork, and a voracious reader, especially of newspapers, which she started reading in 3rd grade, cover to cover, according to her father, who was a science teacher and track coach.

2. Sarah has an amazing work ethic. She always worked jobs in the summer and after school to save money for college. Her dad says she was always relentless in her determination to set goals and finish projects. He says she is stubborn in a good way. She also participated in a beauty pageant to earn money for college, but thought it was degrading.

3. Sarah was a straight A student in college. She attended four schools (not 6!) … The first two were in Hawaii. She didn’t like the first one because it was on a very rainy island, so she and her friend transferred to another school in Hawaii that was sunnier. Sarah then got homesick, and wanting to be closer to home she enrolled in a two-year school in Idaho, before finally transferring to the University of Idaho, where her brother attended, for her four-year degree.

4. Sarah is known for her honesty. Her friends and family say that was ingrained in her by her parents.

5. Sarah challenged the good ole boys system every step of the way. She exposed self-dealing and corruption, but she always followed the confidentiality requirements. She quit a six-figure job on the gas commission in protest of her state party chairman sharing confidential state information with an outside company, and the governor’s failure to fully investigate.

6. Sarah is a populist. Her campaign for governor rejected big-money donors, and relied on thousands of small contributions.

7. Sarah has always been attacked for being unqualified, a lightweight, and she has always been determined to prove everyone wrong.

Jul 25, 2009 - 1:51 am 172. Peter the Bubblehead:

“Ya gotta love the “Amy Winehouse” beehive that palin wears…to bad she can’t sing like Amy.”

Another perfect example of “If we have no real facts, let’s just descend to infantile insults, because we libtards can’t act like REAL adults!

Jul 25, 2009 - 6:04 am 173. Kevin:

Ya gotta love the “Urkel without glasses” look that Obama sports…too bad he isn’t as smart as Urkel.

Jul 25, 2009 - 6:26 am 174. Mirco:

The deragement and the campaign of the left in the US against Palin remember me the deragement and the campaigns against Mr. Silvio Berlusconi and Mr. Umberto Bossi of the Italian Left and their newspapers (now appear that also Murdoch and Soros finanace the same type of campaign against Berlusconi). They also used partigian prosecutor to indict and try both over various allegations.
Both came always out clean or with minor infractions.
After years of allegation, drow down trials, the people no more believe in these allegations. Only the hard leftists believe in them. This happen after 16 years of baseless allegations.

Jul 25, 2009 - 7:02 am 175. dck:

All I can offer to this commentary is my own testimony, supported by a bit of direct experience.

I grew up in Alaska, and I worked for the State for a time. A few competent people run every bureaucracy (four, in our department)backed by a handful of responsible and productive workers. The rest are drones, doing the simplest repetitive work–sometimes two or three times, lounging around looking for something to do, or being part of the problem by doing anything at all–and there are a lot of them on the payroll due to the union.

A friend of mine got a job with the State. On the first day no work came to his desk. He grinned. On the second, he went to his supervisor to point this out. His supervisor grinned and chuckled, and told him to return to his desk and wait. It was several more days before work appeared. I heard this story directly; it’s not apocryphal–though apocryphal stories abound and make their hilarious rounds at Alaska parties.

The aim of anyone who hates work and wants to retire early–that is, to retire on the day he is hired–is to get a job on the State “Gravy Train.” There is a half-joking unofficial rule cited often among people applying for work with the State: “NWMNA.” “No White Males Need Apply.” There is, of course, a gay exception. I don’t think I need to describe the benefits, working conditions, breaks, etc. As I said, a small core of productive people earn it for the rest.

The State Bureaucracy is renowned for its Leftism and unionism. I have another friend who works for the State, is a DNA Democrat on the extreme Left (”Bush is a criminal!”), and sees state-worker complaints as part of his job. Even he can’t believe some of the stuff that comes out of this crowd. Often it’s speculative: “Wonder if I can get away with THIS one?”

State workers are renowned for their rudeness to the public, particularly non-resident tourists on the State ferry system. I have personally heard tourists bitterly complain about inexcusable treatment, which embarrassed me greatly as an Alaskan. It is literally impossible to fire a state worker.

With a Democrat work force deeply imbedded in all State bureacracy, and protected from serious consequence by the unions, I’m not surprised Sarah Palin has been harassed relentlessly.

Until we fight and win the war necessary to counter this kind of political control and use of ANY government bureaucracy in the United States, we can expect our best people to suffer harassment, to be driven out of office, even out of politics.

Those who don’t like Palin should have no tolerance for this kind of thing in our politics either. Its risks are greater than its satisfactions, if you think just a little deeper.

Certainly, the experience of enduring this kind of harassment is a severe test of character, and we should strongly support Sarah Palin as she steps up to confront it.

Jul 25, 2009 - 2:27 pm 176. JohnRJ08:

dck– how is it that there are so many democrat workers in a state that is predominantly conservative? It is not exactly a bastion for liberal intellectuals. To the contrary, it is primarily a wilderness area, that is dominated by tourism and outside oil interests. Whatever bureaucracy that it has is smaller than those found in most small cities. Of course, the objective of any bureaucrat is to preserve the status quo and do as little as possible, but I don’t see this as a peculiarly leftist mentality. I think the reason there are so many ethics complaints against Palin is because a lot of Alaskans just don’t like her. Like the majority of the rest of the country, they find her to be simple-minded and unable to grasp complex issues. Simply put, she has been an embarrassment to many people in Alaska who feel that she has placed her own political ambition above their needs. Her resignation from office 18 months early only served to confirm what they already thought about her.

Jul 25, 2009 - 3:42 pm 177. Adopted:

Dck, great points. I’m not in AK, b ut my friend working for a state university where I live says it’s the same thing: an inefficient bureaucracy. She goes to work and many days there is NOTHING for her to do. Obama wants more people working for the pubilc sector, where they get guaranteed benefits, easy make work, and job security — all at taxpayer expense.

He wants a country that taxes its most productive members to reward its least productive. That’s anti-American right there. The American Dream is not about handouts, but about hard work, failures, and successes.

Nobody should be GIVEN their job. They should earn it.

Jul 25, 2009 - 3:44 pm 178. Dave:

Sarah Palin has been hounded from office by liberal skullduggery, and is quitting so they cannot leverage her Governorship against her by compelling her to respond according to state law and rules to every little piece of carefully designed harassment.

It’s like a mob of ants running up the leg of an elephant and persevering until the animal falls.

Now she will be free of the chains and can stomp the anthill.

I want to be there to see it.

Say what you want, lefties, but your very perseverance against her reveals your fear of her as an agent of change. She simply cannot be left on her own to be what she will be… she must be DESTROYED, along with her children and husband and her entire family.

You people are going to get your comeuppance soon enough. I’ll deliver my little share.

Go Sarah.

Jul 25, 2009 - 4:40 pm 179. Pat J:

109. Peter the Bubblehead:
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that’s why they’re called “alleged.” Still 19 makes one wonder what the hell is going on there. Ah well. Tomorrow it’s back to Wasilla. Hopefully she’ll just settle into more suited for her like a member of the PTA or a city council person.

Jul 25, 2009 - 7:49 pm 180. JohnRJ08:

#178 Dave– Not even conservative pundits agree with you on why Palin resigned 18 months early. And, according to the press in Alaska, many Alaskans are very unhappy about Palin bailing out a year and a half before the end of her term. “liberal skullduggery”? If she’s that easily pushed out of a relatively small state office, how could she possibly deal with a national office where where she would be the focus of the entire world? Use some common sense, Dave. Palin has been her own worst enemy since the Republican convention.

Jul 25, 2009 - 10:14 pm 181. Caestal:

“Palin accuses Obama of palling around with terrorists while her husband pals around with secessionists.” Oh, please. The Alaska Secession Party is a joke, including to those who are in it. It is like one of those “National Beer Inspector” T-shirts, or belonging to one of those New Orleans groups that parade during Mardis Gras dressed as nuns. Nobody expects you to take them seriously… but of course, when you are stretching for anything to complain about, I guess you have to take what you can get.

It is kind of like the thing with her accent, which some folks take as either meaning she is a hick or faking a folksy way of talking. Guess what, folks, people talk that way in Alaska. It isn’t put on… and it doesn’t mean she is a hick, any more than a Jersey accent means you are an ignorant thug or a Boston accent means you are a snob, or a New York accent means you are a rude, arrogant jerk. If y’all want to show your ignorance and prejudice, keep on calling her names based on her accent.

Jul 26, 2009 - 1:41 am 182. SGT Ted:

The leftwing reaction to Palin just shows that the only thing they like or care about ordinary folk is their vote come election time. Their bigotted reaction to Gov Palins upbringing, her choice of schools and her choice of lifestyles show their complete contempt of ordinary Americans and the concept of self government; you cannot even be considered for high office unless you attend the “correct” schools, have the “correct” degree and have been annointed and praised by a passle of unelected, self-appointed gate keepers and navel-gazers who fancy themselves as intellectuals, when all they are is just another member of the PC herd. Nevermind that all these allegeldy “smart” graduates of these allegedly “elite” schools who are now running our public and private institutions have run them into the ground with their ignorance and incompetence. Given a choice between Ivy League grads with an overblown sense of social entitlement, connections and importance and the other being a self-made go getter from an ordinary school; I’ll take the latter anytime.

Jul 26, 2009 - 7:29 am 183. JohnRJ08:

SGT Ted– apparently the right wing reaction to Sarah Palin ain’t so hot, either. About half of the GOP thinks she’s incapable of grasping complex ideas. Even people who support her are saying that. By the way, in order to get into these “elite” schools you’re so glib about, you have to have extraordinary grades and a high score on the SAT. So, going in, you’re smarter than average. Coming out, especially magna cum laude, you’re downright intelligent. Don’t think that you can elevate Sarah Palin’s ignorance by attacking the quality of Obama’s education. Unless you’ve been through that educational system yourself, you have no clue about how much work and intelligence is required to succeed within it. The day we start imagining that we’d be better off if we were being led by an ignoramus than by someone who had knowledge of world history, geography and Constitutional law is the day you can start clubbing your wife again when she forgets to buy beer for you.

Jul 26, 2009 - 8:19 am 184. Peter the Bubblehead:

179. Pat J wrote:
that’s why they’re called “alleged.”

Peter writes: And the big trouble with ‘alleged’ is as far as libtards (and their Dinosaur Media counterparts) are concerned, ‘alleged’ means guilty if a (-R) follows the subject’s name, no matter what the facts eventually prove.

Likewise, ‘alleged’ means innocent to the libtards if the name is followed by a (-D), even after they have served their jail sentence.

Jul 26, 2009 - 11:31 am 185. vivo:

78. geokstr: Hi, there!

Jul 26, 2009 - 3:47 pm 186. caestal:

“By the way, in order to get into these “elite” schools you’re so glib about, you have to have extraordinary grades and a high score on the SAT” or fairly good grades/scores and *other* qualifications like belonging to an ethnic group that the quota hasn’t been filled on, or being a legacy student, or putting enough money into the school’s coffers…

Then again, the only people with valid opinions are the ones with good grades and test scores; those who have the ability to think critically need not apply — they do nothing but “start clubbing your wife again when she forgets to buy beer for you.” I reckon that is a much better way to make your case then actually come up with a cogent argument, neh?

Jul 27, 2009 - 12:01 am 187. SGT Ted:

Extraordinary grades and/or high SAT score do NOT mean competence at anything other than success in a school environment. The day has already come where we now over-value useless credentials and dismiss experience based competence and call someone stupid because they succeed outside of that narrow, bigotted POV. Lots of Ivy league “educated” people also supported some of the most stupidest, monstrous ideas and their leaders, like Hitler and Stalin. Attending the “right” school doesn’t say anything about anyones common sense or fitness to lead.

Jul 27, 2009 - 5:40 am 188. dck:

#176

I’ll copy your comment to my state-worker, Democrat friends in Alaska, who will pass it around for a big laugh at their next drunken fundraiser for some Leftwing cause.

If “a lot of Alaskans just don’t like (Palin),” why did she win election and why are her poll numbers so remarkably and consistently high in Alaska? As a reformist opponent of Big Oil and the corrupt Republican Machine, Palin was lukewarm “ok” with Alaska Democrats until she became a candidate for national political office and spiked in Republican popularity polls.

“Simply put,” I think you are speaking for yourself when you say she is “an embarrassment to many people in Alaska”(for the wholly predictable, talking-point, “whitetrashing” reasons). The last national poll I saw on her she did very well, and she is improving all the time, despite the desperate (and vicious) effort to destroy her. We are all of us a bit of Whitetrash out here, my friend.

As far as her being “unable to grasp complex issues,” in my opinion, a Great president is one who gets a few vital, simple things right, and never gives up on them: Viz. Abraham Lincoln (a Republican; the Dems were all in Gray or Butternut, and later white hoods). You may be right to this extent, though: Joe Biden could have a higher I.Q. than Sarah, as he is fond of telling anyone who questions him. Why, even Bill Clinton probably could spot her 20 I.Q. points!

Palin resigned because she is under ferocious assault by exactly the kind of dug-in Democrat plutocracy I described, trying its best to undermine and damage her with groundless ethics complaints. You know, the Democrat power structure you suggest doesn’t exist in Alaska–to the soon-to-be tittering mirth of my toked-up, Alaskan Democrat friends who work for the State.

Palin is now deeply in debt to attorneys (I’ve heard half a million dollars) and has seen her family reviled in a particularly vicious manner. All of this is shameful, inexcusable, and ultimately counterproductive, if you think it through more carefully.

The State may vote “conservative” overall (I would actually say Alaska is “Libertarian”), and given the Permanent Fund from oil money that’s not likely to end soon: a $1,500-$2,000 check for every resident every January is a pretty good “Conservative” incentive–eh? Lets call it an effective teaching tool.

Still the cities are “bastions” of the Left where there are State government offices or benefits are being handed out–as I ‘m sure you know. The Democrats have their wholly established piece of the pie: unionized government bureaucracy. I agree with you completely on one point: The State is certainly not a place known for its Liberal Intellectuals.

There are lots of Democrat Trolls lurking around on long coffee breaks, however, and the fact they are so alert and immediate in their response to any unflattering political exposure decisively refutes your comment in itself. Say “hi” to Jake for me.

Jul 27, 2009 - 4:48 pm 189. caestal:

Hm, wierd, I just found out that despite everything, Ms. Palin’s polling numbers make her out as more popular than Speaker of the House Pelosi. Well, maybe not that wierd…

Aug 3, 2009 - 1:43 pm

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