Palin’s Advocacy: The Turning Point in Health Care Reform Debate
It was her timely intervention that put the Democrats off their game and turned the debate around.
For an uneducated, unsophisticated rube and former governor from a backwater state, Sarah Palin sure can drive a debate. With prospects for passage of his sweeping overhaul of the American health care delivery system fading with every speech, President Barack Obama is making it increasingly clear that Palin will be recognized, for good or ill, as perhaps the most prominent single political figure responsible for stopping it in its tracks.
It’s a remarkable story. A failed vice-presidential candidate and resigned governor — unfairly viewed by many as a cruel joke – reached from beyond the political grave her elitist critics prematurely dug for her and her political future to thwart a popular president prematurely regarded by the same elite that shunned her as perhaps the most gifted politician this nation has ever produced. If Sarah Palin were a sitting governor, a failed presidential candidate, or even a state legislator, her influence in the health care debate would not be as unexpected. It is the fact that she is a private citizen, completely out of politics save for a small political action committee, that makes this story unique.
How did she do it? That’s where the story gets even more remarkable.
There were no public appearances or speeches, no glitzy ad campaigns, no publicity tours, no interviews in the mainstream press or any new media outlet. Sarah Plain killed health care reform with a posting on her Facebook page, an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, and an exquisite sense of timing.
If history remembers one thing from the current debate over health care, it will remember the phrase “death panel.” Just as Harry and Louise form the enduring image from President Clinton’s failed attempt to take over the health care system, the “death panel” image will come to symbolize Obama’s failure and Palin’s triumph.
It’s almost the perfect political catchphrase. “Death panel” encapsulates everything people fear about the consequences of a government with too much power over those it is supposed to serve.
That turn of phrase, delivered just as Congress was getting ready for the August recess, was the bolt of lightning that set ablaze the brush fires of public unrest over Obama’s plan which manifested itself in town hall meetings across the country. It robbed the White House of message control at a critical juncture and forced the administration to respond to the charge — and to Palin.
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1. MIKE in ATL:President Palin…….sounds about right!Come on 2012.
Sep 19, 2009 - 12:09 am 2. arhooley:Palin is to Obama what Obama was to Hillary — the unlikely upstart who halts Mr. Inevitable in his tracks. The difference, of course, is that Palin is doing it through substance and principle, not snake-oil and charm. It must suck to be Obama these days.
Palin’s detractors will arrive at this forum shortly, to claim she is stupid and insignificant. It must suck to be them, too.
Sep 19, 2009 - 12:18 am 3. Delia:-And, before any retarded troll calls me a ‘raaaaaaacist’ for my last epiphany, let me remind you that your straight up gansta douchebags write much worse.
MUCH WORSE.
Own it, don’t loan it.
Sep 19, 2009 - 12:33 am 4. Pragmatist:Yep brilliant ‘libtard’ moonbat PC MC brains came up with the pathetic hilarious excuse ‘ There were no ‘Death Panels’ in the Bill and anyway we have REMOVED them” ROTFLALMAO
Sep 19, 2009 - 12:36 am 5. ReB:This doesn’t prove that she has the all round skills to be a great president. I suspect that she could do better than any of the last three. Or four?
Sep 19, 2009 - 1:38 am 6. William, NY:“The number can likely be counted on one hand.” I didn’t see anyone else competing with her: perhaps the number could be counted on the thumbs of one hand.
What she has is the essence, what she doesn’t have is stuff that can be learned.
Stand back and watch!!!
God Bless Sarah.
The msm-fringe fail to recognize that Obama is his own worst enemy, he’s a pathological liar prone to exaggeration and hyperbole, averse to reading his own bills, is lost at sea when the teleprompter fails and or has to eat his own words and deeds when replayed back to him. Seriously Gibbs and other white house spokespeople/staff have their work cut out for them 24/7 covering for Obama. It’s really not that hard to pick apart Obama’s incompetence if it were not for the ardent love affair the msm has with him.
That Sarah can challenge their darling and alter the course of debate(s) is truly remarkable. For someone who has been so grossly vilified to do as she has shows great courage, immense resolve, conviction and clout. She puts many serving reps on all sides to shame.
Sep 19, 2009 - 1:51 am 7. Francis W. Porretto:It’s been clear for a while that the Democrats are terrified of Citizen Sarah and will do anything they can to marginalize or delegitimize her, just as they’re struggling to do with the 9/12 demonstration in Washington. But it’s now imperative that concerned conservatives ask the next question:
Who else is terrified of Sarah Heath Palin?
– Establishmentarian Republicans;
– The Establishment-supporting Punditocracy;
– Insiders to the “Rotarian Socialism” system of subsidies and genteel rake-offs the Establishment has perpetuated.
Sarah Heath Palin made a huge part of her reputation as a corruption fighter: the “new broom” that so many aspiring pols have claimed to be, but so few have actually been. Her ascent to national prominence threatens many a place at the Washington feeding trough — and those whose faces are immersed therein are massively disinclined to compete in a truly free market once again.
(For example, consider former Senator Robert Dole of Kansas, who’s no longer in public life. Dole almost single-handedly turned Archer Daniels Midland into D.C.’s biggest corporate welfare client, and made the defense of ADM’s subsidies and special subventions one of his principal missions in Washington. ADM, in return, lent its considerable weight to every one of Dole’s campaigns. How do you suppose ADM views Citizen Sarah?)
Conservatives who would love to see Sarah Heath Palin become the GOP standard-bearer should be thinking hard about what it will take to carve a path to the 2012 presidential nomination for her. It won’t be the Democrats, or their Old Media lapdogs, who put up the stiffest resistance to that.
Sep 19, 2009 - 2:30 am 8. Gary Ogletree:Anyone who has taken an honest look at Sarah’s rise from the PTA to Governor is not surprised by her effective take down of President Wee Wee’s totalitarian health care plan. She’s a natural. And she is the only Republican leader who can be relied upon to take down the Beltway GOP’s collusion with corrupt business interests, she did it in Alaska. The American Left is self-destructing like the old Soviet Union. But we have to make the GOP a champion of the liberties protected by the Constitution, and we have a long way to go. That means sending a lot of entrenched Republicans packing in 2010. Time to bring forth primary challengers to incumbents. Yes, we can. You betcha.
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:12 am 9. vivo:Conservatives and Republicans are well know for coining defamatory phrases with twisted language. The ADD crowd gobbles it up. They think they know everything by just hearing a couple of catchy words. Palin knows that. Dropping controversial words here and there makes the lemmings very comfortable and self-assured. Just like others, she’s the smart cookie, it’s her supporters who have wasted brains.
And now, all you have to do is replaced my words with liberal content and show me how smart you are. I’m waiting.
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:53 am 10. Poor Citzen:I think she has taken good advice by quitting work and concentrating on “important things” what she wants to do in her future. After all, her former political carrer as governor and candidate ended in shambles and her family was disintegrating. Now, at least, she can take some time to get educated in the facts of the world and big time politics. After all, the cash is still flowing in from big oil and now big insurance by the millions so she has no real financial worries. I think she did the right thing. She spoke with confidence and the Christian right in do not tend to warm to females perceived as pushy. She could switch parties, but then she would lose big business funding…anyway, Good Luck Sarah.
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:00 am 11. rod stanton:Sarah is the only conservative with the intelligence/brains to figure out the weakest point in the lefts attack for “health reform”. She also had the integrity and guts to counter attack this weakest of weak points. The polls all substantiate the fact that her op-ed in the WSJ was the schwerpunkt of the war against NAZI health care.
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:05 am 12. tc:It is because of Sarah’s very high intelligence coupled with her integrity and amazing courage that collectivists such as: Pelosi, McCain, Axelrod, et. Al.; are frightened to death of her.
Sarah Palin can behave as a knife-wielding special operator, slinking through the night and delivering a massive psychological blow as she ransacks Obama’s own little world. She has the freedom of movement and has acted with the element of surprise, delivering lethal blows on the thin skinned empty suit that is the astroturfed Obama. Armed with facts and truth, even facts from the presidents own advisers, Palin can slink right up behind Obama, silently, cut off a piece of his cloak as David did to Saul and then utter, “I could’ve but I didn’t…” as Obama continues to underestimate Palin. Backed by an amorphous conglomeration of faceless but principled conservative Americans, Palin can securely tread where no other politician can right now and emerged unscathed–for she has already had her baptism by fire and emerged stronger. The tactics and effects being played out now are only skirmishes and sniping that are cracking the feet of clay. The storm clouds gathering foreshadow a warning for the White House, where shall she strike next, or from what corner shall it come from? Her target is frozen, personalized, and being ridiculed—and the peals of laughter are aimed directly at the ineptitude of the “smartest president” —yes, smart indeed!
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:15 am 13. Panini:Sarah Palin points to an important truth: if you care for others, then let them choose what they want and do what they want. If you give them what you think they want,in spite of all your good intentions, you end up in a totalitarian state. At the same time, there is another equally important truth: you can’t sit back and watch the poor and the destitute not getting adequate medical care because they cannot afford it. Solution: open up the range of choice by acting against monopolistic and trade restrictive collusions between doctors, hospitals and drug companies, making it easy for the best talent to practice in the USA and by allowing the sick to travel abroad for cheaper treatment. Solutions have to be found within the framework of individual freedom and open and fair competition, like the way Sarah Palin can cock a snook at President Obama because of the level playing field offered by modern media.
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:33 am 14. tommyd:Sarah Palin is what she is. She might be in your face a bit and she makes no bones about who she is and what she stands for.
She actually HAS beliefs and values that encourage freedom and prosperity for Americans that are willing to put forth the effort..
Obama is what he is, a two bit community organizer, Marxist, American hating racist. The facts are there, in his own book and in his own life choices.
No one sits in a pew for 20 years listening to the esteemed Rev. Wright unless they like what they are hearing. Read the man and his wife’s history, they are America haters plain and simple. Kind of interesting but I see no evidence of trials and tribulations in either of the Obama’s life, they seem to have done pretty well for themselves, but somehow America is broken…
It is unfortunate that the black community allowed the first black president to be such a poor representation of their people. Obama is a race hustler using his ethnicity to promote his true passion of Marxism and personal power. Like his fellow democrat Bill Clinton, there is simply too much me , I , in all his rhetoric. Being president is not about promoting the man, it is about promoting the good of America for Americans.
The left does not care about blacks, the left cares about leftist.
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:39 am 15. George S:Stray from the path and you become the enemy.
why I trust Palin.
first let me state that I have little use for elitists. (anyone who thinks their sh!t don’t stink will never do right by anyone but themselves)
I have little use for many university degrees …stuck on an island …these people will be helpless …strand me with a farmer plumber or mechanic or hunter. these are smart people (life smart)
Palin has shown to put the people first, unlike the liberal/democrats/socialist who claim to put people first but DO NOT ACTUALLY PUT THE PEOPLE FIRST. TAKE NOTE …puting people first means without trampling the rights of anyone even if they are in minority.
Palin is not part of the political machine that always hi-jacks the agenda for special intrest groups (like ACORN)
Palin lives like a normal person and sees the chalenges of normal people.
and yes death panels are still in the bill. YOU cannot take it out.
this is how it will happen.
the bill gets past …the government sets up an administration to run the program (maybe hires Acorns’ laid off or fired workers) …cost soar, they ALWAYS do when the government is in control (like a compulsive eater there is never enough) ….oh yeah the unions will be there, so high wages and need to grow. …OH LOOK …now there is no money for health care. ok …lets start cutting benefits …lets start rationing.
the bills all have commitees that will oversee the distribution of services and care. these commitees are the defacto DEATH PANELS.
regards
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:58 am 16. ahem:It’s sad. Apparently, Mrs. Palin is the only American politician with the stones to stand up to the Left. Considering that practically no male republicans are standing with her, you have to admit she deserves a lot of credit. Also, your vote in 2012. I’d take her for President any day of the year. It’ll be impossible to top Obama for incompetence for several decades, I would imagine.
Sep 19, 2009 - 6:02 am 17. Nobama 2012:Sarah Palin winking…
*wink*……. *wink*……. *wink*……. *wink*….
That one thing drives liberals nuts.
lol..
Mrs. Obama standing before a crowd of what?
150 women supporters and she is wearing a chastity belt?
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/t6ltNgCMwwx/Michelle+Obama+Makes+Remarks+Health+Insurance/HEJvKUJNAiW/Kathleen+Sebelius
If Bambie loses this health care battle he is gonna lose more than just popularity.
Sep 19, 2009 - 6:05 am 18. dynomitejim:I agree with Gary. I am tired of “The Living Constitution”. We have lost our way.
Sep 19, 2009 - 6:48 am 19. Tom Perkins:@ vivo & poor citizen, 9 & 10.
You all are late to this thread. Careful or you won’t get your check from Soros.
You both have nice, short, monkey-flinging-poo posts. We know you have nothing.
She didn’t really quit, she really was just advancing in another direction, and has taken her first objective.
Sep 19, 2009 - 7:35 am 20. Suzi:It still cracks me up when we are asked to cut Obama some slack as he ‘learns the ropes’ at being President. He admitted himself that the big questions, the life and death posers were beyond his paygrade at Saddleback. Snake oil is right. We needed the down-to-earth common sense of a governing candidate to fill that office. 20/20 hindsight can be a ‘b-word’, and I’m sure that’s what Sarah is being called up on the Hill right now.
Bright.
Intelligent.
Tough.
Courageous.
Headstrong.
More power to her.
Sep 19, 2009 - 7:37 am 21. JeninCT:It’s possible that Palin may not even want to run for president after the thrashing her family took, and she’s proven that she doesn’t need to since she can change policy with a facebook posting. Now that’s power!
Sep 19, 2009 - 7:50 am 22. Byron Dickens:The media and political elites always underestimate the rubes out here in “flyover country.”
Sep 19, 2009 - 7:52 am 23. Poor Citizen:No. 19 Tom Perkins
Tommy, Tommy….Sarah didnt really quit? and Sarah hasnt had family problems?…ok…if you say so…, but then you are the “only one” in the country that must have missed that information. So just to get you caught up on the last year.. Sarah has left office, resigned (that means quit by the way) and has had several articles (in this conservative site !) about her family melt down. Heck, I thought I was being nice. Dont understand why your upset..hey, I really do think these next few years off will do Sarah good…a chance to form that presidential pact, go for long walks, take some on-line courses, cancun time…etc etc..and again, good luck to her… Ok?
Sep 19, 2009 - 8:19 am 24. Delia:Welllllllllll
It seems my #3 reply to myself only has my reply to myself rather than my initial post.
So, for those of you who get frustrated when you think your post are unfairly moderated…well, I’m here to tell ya it happens and it’s OKAY.
Am I annoyed? Yes.
I’ll live. lol
GO SARAH!
Sep 19, 2009 - 8:30 am 25. John "birther" Samford:“For an uneducated, unsophisticated rube and former governor from a backwater state,”
Slander, pure and simple. Mrs. Palin is as educated as many politicians and better then some. Unsophistaced is an opinion, not a fact.
Alaska is not a back water state. That too is nothing but an opinion.
Delia, a BIG part of the problem in America today is deleted posts.
The left deletes any post for which they have no argument, which is why the only way to deal with them is with an argument they cannot delete.
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun”
- Chairman Mao Zedong (Tse-tung)
If reasoned discourse is not an option, what is left?
“War can only be abolished by war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is
necessary to take up the gun”
- Chairman Mao Zedong (Tse-tung)
Ultimately, us unsophisticated rubes have the advantage. We grow our own food and kill our own meat. The Urban ‘elites’ will change their tune after about 5 days with nothing to eat. Then we will sort out the ones that might be useful and re-educate the rest.
Sep 19, 2009 - 8:54 am 26. Professor Guvinoff:Sarah Palin applied herself to do David’s work after Barack Obama had applied himself to portray Goliath. She had to be precise, and she was!
Many politicians were lawyers before getting into the arena, perhaps because the practice of law gives one a chance to refine one’s rethorical skills. She did not need to. She is powerful by being earnest. She still personifies the robust American after we almost forgot what makes one.
She is the natural leader of an awakening America yearning for a return to its inner strengths. Thanks God, exceptional circumstances reveal the existence of exceptional individuals, who would otherwise have been unnoticed.
Sep 19, 2009 - 8:54 am 27. narciso:I’m surprised that they pay people for these vomiting of talking points. Yes she resigned, because the ethics law was used as a cudgel against her, forcing exceedingly high legal costs which she tried to defray with a legal
defense fund, as well significant administrative
costs to the state. As a citizen-activist she has been more effective in derailing various
administration initiatives, like the ruinous
cap n trade bill, or a health care bill that Cthluthu could have come up with
Yes she had a daughter who had a child with her boyfriend, who has also been used as a weapon against her, by unscrupulous media. Despite the fact that as a ‘Feminist for Life’ she is not strictly for abstinence, so hypocrisy doesn’t really apply.
Sep 19, 2009 - 9:00 am 28. Immanuel Goldstein:Alaska is not a backwater state. Unique among all the states, Alaska is bounded by two nations, Canada and Russia. Canada is friendly, and a trading partner. Russia is hostile and aggressive, which makes Alaska unique in another way, that by being a frontline state in a geopolitical sense. California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas border on Mexico, but Mexico is not really an enemy of the U.S. Mexico is just ill governed and chaotic, and that chaos spills across the border. Only Alaska confronts an enemy country, and the Alaskans, if not other Americans know it. So when you hear the jokes, the forced and false hilarity of “I can see Russia from my house,” of liberals, realize that they totally miss the very serious point that she was making. Far from having no foreign policy experience, Sarah Palin has displayed foreign policy credibility in real time in a way Obama never has.
Sep 19, 2009 - 9:31 am 29. davidt:How did Palin do it?
The key is the Democrat News Media’s war upon her, which compels them to ‘report’ on her, to broadcast her every word, to deliver her and her positions to the public to an extent she could never do without them.
Palin is using the Democrat’s own propaganda corps against the Democrats.
Sep 19, 2009 - 9:35 am 30. Greying Wanderer:I’d vote for her.
I think she has good instincts like Reagan.
People with good instincts will still make mistakes but less than others.
Sep 19, 2009 - 10:58 am 31. Jilly:If Palin were at the helm I’d sleep much better. Problem is there are plenty of fat cat Republicans who don’t want her any more than the Democrats. During the campaign she kept promising to “shake things up” and I think both sides were worried about this precisely because she did it in Alaska to both sides.
She has the courage of her convictions and she has my vote if I can ever give it to her.
Sep 19, 2009 - 11:15 am 32. Now and Then:I’ll bet anybody here my retirement against yours (assuming you have one) that Palin won’t be president in 2012. Any takers? didn’t think so.
Sep 19, 2009 - 11:23 am 33. Brian:@ Vivo: All Palin did was give the Left a taste of their own medicine. For far too long, Republicans and beltway conservatives have all the debate mannerisms of Ben Stein’s “Ferris Bueller” character, blandly citing statistics and such. It’s hypocritical for you to say that Palin’s supporters are stupid for her “death panel” remark, when the Left has played this game over and over for years. Palin crystallized the debate and injected some badly needed emotion into it, and it worked. Just like The Bride from the “Kill Bill” movies, Palin is out for revenge. She was all content in staying in Alaska and finishing her term until Obama’s goons started harassing her.
Sep 19, 2009 - 11:26 am 34. Raymond:You are very right Greying Wanderer. Good instincts is a great character of an individual that can make him a very effective leader. Sarah Palin has this character in which Obama does not have. I totally agree that Obama was grad of Harvard law school but this does not mean that he has a better instincts than Palin. There a lot of lawyers out there who are grads of a prestigious universities but they they lack common sense and good instincts that is why these wack lawyers ended up being a notary public or community organizers. The left claimed that Sarah Palin is an idiot. Why Palin became an effective governor who was able to take down corrupt politicians? The problem with Americans right now is they lack common sense and natural instincts and for this reason MSM media can turn their heads upside down. Why LEFT IS GETTING STRONG IN AMERICA?? Simple answer: United States has a lot of immigrants coming from hostile countries like in the Middle East and Africa and their ultimate intention is to weaken the majority white americans who they think is dominating the United States for a very long time and strong supporters of Israel.
Sep 19, 2009 - 11:39 am 35. Fantom:“32. Now and Then:
I’ll bet anybody here my retirement against yours ”
Now why in the world would I bet my 401K against your welfare check?
Sep 19, 2009 - 11:42 am 36. Immanuel Goldstein:You weren’t trying to snooker us, were you, Now and Then? Of course Sarah Palin won’t be President in 2012. She will be inaugurated in January of 2013.
Sep 19, 2009 - 11:45 am 37. Inrptrn:Unlike Obama, Palin doesn’t have to be elected to the office of the president to be effective.
People of strong principle and backbone, grounded in liberty and individual freedom, will prevail every time. If not at first, certainly in hindsight.
Palin is not a genius, but she is a very courageous person living in a pathetically craven age.
Keep speaking truth to power.
Sep 19, 2009 - 11:47 am 38. Angelo:Dear NOW AND THEN,
Watch your language, Sir. You may lose in the betting. You will be terrified if I say that Sarah Palin will become first female president of the United States no matter what MSM libs and MSM media try to demonize her. Go down and travel Brazil and Southeast Asia and look for those who predicted the great tsunami and the 911. “After a failed black leadership will rise a Christian woman leader from the north star”. This is also from the book of Nostredamus. Think twice, smart gambler, you may end up as a beggar in the NY subway. LOL!!!
Sep 19, 2009 - 11:52 am 39. Pharos:29. davidt: “Palin is using the Democrat’s own propaganda corps against the Democrats.”
Great observation, davidt.
What’s also ironic is that a co-founder of Facebook assisted heavily in the creation of the MyBarackObama site that helped him immensely during the 2008 campaign, yet a simple Facebook post by Palin helped slow this legislation’s seemingly unstoppable passage.
Sep 19, 2009 - 12:23 pm 40. Sapwolf:Palin has probably finished the first draft of her book. That is why she has not been in the news too much.
You don’t whip out a book in 5 minutes.
If she runs, given Obama’s poor performance, she’ll win because she is the anti-Obama and the American people are getting to know her more and not from the SRM.
Obama Palin
Dependency Liberty
Sep 19, 2009 - 12:28 pm 41. Fay:Big government Limited government
Despair Hope
Lies Honesty
Cowardice Courage
Machine Real Reformer
High taxes Low taxes
High spending Low spending
Huge deficits Balance budget
More regualtion Less regulation
Statist Constitutionalist
Weak defense Strong defense
Totalitarianism Freedom
Ivory Tower Common sense
Arrogant Humble
Preacher Doer
Elitist Middle-Class
Yep. David picked up 5 smooth stones when facing Goliath. Sarah Palin typed 2 words on Facebook….
Sarah Palin 2012!
Sep 19, 2009 - 12:49 pm 42. Lisa:When Gov. Palin delivered her “Death Panels” we all sat back and said wait, wait, wait, Obama and Gibbs will respond. Then Obama and Gibbs responded and Sarah Palin pounced.
Liberal women, conservative women, or no party at all women that can’t crack a smile at this most remarkable woman from Alaska, are not women.
There are two superstars in politics’ today and they are Sarah Palin and President Obama.
I have never in my life been so proud to be a woman.
There are four words I have for the haters. I am Sarah Palin.
I think God everyday for letting me be part of this time in history.
Sep 19, 2009 - 1:03 pm 43. Clara:I appreciate Palin’s comments on this subject. She was dead on(pun intended). However, her “advocacy” was not the turning point in the debate.
I fear the Palin supporters are appearing starstruck and attributing characteristics and accomplishments to their idol just as the Obama sychophants have done. To do so only invites disappointment and defeat. Nobody is as perfect as their respective fans seem to suggest.
The plain ol’ American patriots who showed up at the town hall meetings en masse were the catalyst for the downfall of the public option(that was the main point of the dissent, right?). I think the best moment was when that woman got major MSM coverage at the Specter/Sebelius town hall when she asked Specter why he thought the government could run the health care system when they couldn’t even manage the cash for clunkers program. That was the turning point and it snowballed from there.
Palin’s comments were important to be sure. The “death panel” debate will definitely be remembered, but had the throngs of regular Americans not turned out to have their voices heard (which they were doing way before the death panel comment) this battle would have never ended in the defeat of Obama’s government takeover.
Having said all that, I am sure most people don’t have a problem giving Palin credit for speaking out on that issue, but giving her overwhelming credit for the turning point of the debate begins to sound like the Obamatrons who worship The One.
Sep 19, 2009 - 1:07 pm 44. arhooley:vivo,
Ah, so it’s Sarah’s supporters who are dumb. Who was it who got all defensive about “death panels” and made a great point of removing them from the bill? She has an odd power over those smart people who oppose her.
Sep 19, 2009 - 1:44 pm 45. AL_in_CA:vivo “They think they know everything by just hearing a couple of catchy words”
You mean like “Hope and Change”?
Sep 19, 2009 - 1:46 pm 46. Sallie:I do not believe Palin will run in 2012. She is much more effective and free to speak her mind and get paid for $$peaking engagements. she should do that for a while. She will gain experience and can help flush Obama down the racists toilet.
#38…Where did the Nostradamus stuff say what you are posting? looked for it and says no quotation…
I did get this…
Century VI quatrain 33
His hand finally through the bloody ALUS,
He will be unable to protect himself by sea,
Between two rivers he will fear the military hand,
The black and angry one will make him repent of it.
“General Schwarzkopf is the “black and angry one” as his name means black head as it is translated from the German. He was the commander during the Gulf war who made Saddam repent because of the devastating effects of the sanctions imposed upon Iraq following the war.”
Palin rocks, I really don’t care what anyone says. We like her and life is good!!!! She has a set of balls some of our elected officials need to grow.
Sep 19, 2009 - 1:55 pm 47. Max:Sarah Palin is America’s Joan of Arc (Jehanne Darc)
Sep 19, 2009 - 2:41 pm 48. Jim C:Irony & Kharma. You betcha!
Sep 19, 2009 - 3:00 pm 49. Aaron Byrnes:They thought they could Quayle her, but she was too strong for them. They thought they could tie her to Alaska and drain her using Alaska’s strange ethics laws. But she overturned the board and changed the game.
She scored twice against Obama in a game of one-on-one, using a mere Facebook post to confound the supposedly most gifted and smartest President ever. The more they dismiss Sarah, the more I know that she is the only one they really fear.
Sep 19, 2009 - 3:15 pm 50. Politics for dummies:Think of this nation as a living breathing person, and I would posit that Obama’s attempt at government controlled medical care is the equivalent of trying to give the U.S. a serious staff infection.
By the same token, think of Sarah Palin as a wonder drug, and I would posit she is the equivalent of penicillin.
Sep 19, 2009 - 3:21 pm 51. billslayer:I have very strong misgivings about Palin. We need to remember that the media is always going to be on the side of the libs/dems. If our candidate has a weakness, they will tear into it. In the interviews, Palin was even more inarticulate than Bush. We cannot afford the label of “stupid” to be the anchor tied around the neck of our candidate, or we will all be thrown overboard with her. That being said, there are more articulate candidates. From the last crop there was Romney and Huckabee and to a degree Fred Thompson. If we could merge Fred Thompson’s balls with Romney’s stage presence we will have a President. But I’m sorry, Palin’s proletarian appeal is not sufficient and her inarticulation will drive off swing voters.
Sep 19, 2009 - 3:22 pm 52. Ole Sarge:4. Pragmatist:
Yep brilliant ‘libtard’ moonbat PC MC brains came up with the pathetic hilarious excuse ‘ There were no ‘Death Panels’ in the Bill and anyway we have REMOVED them” ROTFLALMAO
Sep 19, 2009 – 12:36 am
The libatards have arrived
Sep 19, 2009 - 3:26 pm 53. McBride:The democrat dominated congress is back in session.Why don’t they call for a vote Monday and pass it in recusancy of the will of the people?I posit the reason is fear.Fear in the face of the knowledge that their political “career’s” would be over.Instead we have the President initiating another round of tongue baths by his media sycophants,repeating the same methods and expecting different results.How has that worked for him so far?
Sep 19, 2009 - 3:28 pm 54. Anonymous:#7
Sounds like you hit the nail on the head. The GOP will do all in their power to derail her, I support her, and will not fund the GOP, not one penny. If their conduct is as I expect I will probably put them on the no-fund list for ever.
Perhaps she will split off support from the GOP, blame Sarah, nope, blame the GOP for supporting some R who is now demanding his turn at the game.
Sep 19, 2009 - 3:32 pm 55. Trent Telenko:Gov. Sarah Palin has the ability to take what is in people’s hearts and minds and express it in words. It makes her an incredible wild card in the Republican race because the game changer in the Health Care debate was her labeling the government option health care panels as “Death Panels.”
The last American president to have that ability was Reagan had and the last Democratic President with it was Kennedy.
Palin’s charisma, speaking from the heart ability, and her demographic ties to the elderly through her Downs Syndrome child make her the dark horse of the Republican race.
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:04 pm 56. vivo:33. Brian:
“Palin crystallized the debate and injected some badly needed emotion into it, and it worked.”
Yes, it worked for people like you. After McCain picked her, she had lots of coaching. Any dumbbell can learn. She has lots of coaching now, lots of free time after being ‘governorless’ and funding by GOP’ers. Her teleprompter skills seem to be a match as Obama’s. So she may be in a rising curve. But time will tell. The America you know is not the same and is changing every day. Non-Hispanic whites will be a minority by 2042, so they’ll be halfway there by 2020 and it’s already 2010. Fasten your seatbelt!
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:37 pm 57. Anonymous:You are wrong Billslayer, to think you can judge Sarah Palin from how she handled media interviews during the VP trail. There, she was hampered every inch of the way by the dumb stupid McCain team controllers.
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:52 pm 58. vivo:Did you see how she handled herself with Andrea ? tv interviewer following her resignation as governor? where she told her “you’re not listening to me”? Just wait till she gets to talk without anyone to tell her what she cant and can say. Then judge.
45. AL_in_CA:
“You mean like “Hope and Change”?”
What did I tell you @9?
And now, all you have to do is replaced my words with liberal content and show me how smart you are. I’m waiting.
19. Tom Perkins:
“You all are late to this thread. Careful or you won’t get your check from Soros.”
So many nuts so little time. I wish I’d get paid. It’s all freelance and independent. After Leno, Letterman, Conan, Ferguson, Stewart and Colbert I (sometimes) get my kicks from Pajamas, O’Reilly, Hannity and Fox.
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:52 pm 59. Pamela:You are wrong Billslayer, to think you can judge Sarah Palin from how she handled media interviews during the VP trail. There, she was hampered every inch of the way by the dumb stupid McCain team controllers.
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:53 pm 60. Crusader:Did you see how she handled herself with Andrea ? tv interviewer following her resignation as governor? where she told her “you’re not listening to me”? Just wait till she gets to talk without anyone to tell her what she cant and can say. Then judge.
The big problem I have with Sarah Palin is the inherent anti-intellectualism that she fosters. You know it’s not a crime to be inquisitive and nuanced about the issues.
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:53 pm 61. Crusader:vivo:
Conservatives and Republicans are well know for coining defamatory phrases with twisted language. The ADD crowd gobbles it up. They think they know everything by just hearing a couple of catchy words. Palin knows that. Dropping controversial words here and there makes the lemmings very comfortable and self-assured. Just like others, she’s the smart cookie, it’s her supporters who have wasted brains.
And now, all you have to do is replaced my words with liberal content and show me how smart you are. I’m waiting.
You libs are so sensitive when our side turns your Alinsky “Rules” back on yourselves. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Sep 19, 2009 - 4:55 pm 62. A. Stephens:I’m as enthusiastic a Palin fan as any, but I agree that cult of personality politics and inane idol worship is best left to the progressives, or liberals, or lefties, or urban enlightened, or whatever they’re calling themselves these days.
I’d suggest going back to post 7. Francis W. Porretto nails it. The immediate threat to a Palin candidacy in 2012 is entrenched power, regardless of party affiliation. They instinctively know that she is a threat to expose and challenge whatever back-room, quid pro quo arrangements they may be involved in. How would they know this? She has a proven record as a reformer.
The venom spewing from the self marginalizing media is going to be there for any conservative, so that shouldn’t be a factor in either her decisions going forward, nor in the support of those who truly believe she possesses a Thatcher-esque quality for leading a movement and a country.
To the billslayers of the world, man up! The early Palin interviews set the template for the extended narrative. 2 things, a.) those were deliberate hatchet jobs designed to elicit the very response that you had, it worked, which is why they continue to do it to conservatives b.) any governor not coming from NY, CA, TX, and maybe a few others, was going to have an orientation period in which they would be behind the curve on national issues, especially those of international scope. By the time of the debates, and certainly by the end of the campaign, she had found her footing and was performing up to task, though clearly still assimilating policy issues. But the die had been cast. If you don’t agree with her politics fine, but to suggest that she is intellectually unqualified based on that narrative is shallow in its premise, in my opinion.
Frankly, I imagine swing voters are thinking of their presidential choice today, He doth articulate too much. No? Check out the Sunday shows tomorrow. Loquaciousness is not leadership.
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:05 pm 63. narciso:What does ethnicity, specially from a Che Guevara follower,have to do with constitutional principles. She had to follow McCain’s lead on cap n trade, and TARP, instead of following her own counsel. Ditto on the Supreme Courtdecisions
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:08 pm 64. Weekend Patriot:like the Campaign Finance decision, she was willing to state her own view on the prisoner detainee cases, very presciently as it turned out, “honestamente estas mas muerto que vivo en tu alma”
Hey everybody, this is some great video of the 9-12 demo! Really great interviews on the scenes…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:50 pm 65. David:Theres another straw poll being taken at some GOP event.Guess who is not there?Sarah Palin.She is at home seeing her son after a long year he spent fighting in Iraq.My guess she will not win or come even close to winning it but how about this GOP,who cares?Let the good ol boys scrap in the sandbox and backstab each other to try and be the anointed one.One thing they allways forget at these events(she seems to gladly avoid at all costs)nobody cares who wins their stupid straw polls.So Palin again plays this one with brilliance,avoiding the backstabbers.She continues to keep her focus on the goon thugs in DC.Palin doesnt need to play those sandbox games called critisize thy opponent.After the games the media and O played on her,first last elections,then right after in her state.I know why she has no interest in internal party politics.She doesnt care,theres only one thing she cares about stopping Os agenda.
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:50 pm 66. Lana:Obama is a liar and is ruining this country, impeach him now!!!!!
Sep 19, 2009 - 5:59 pm 67. myth buster:Huckabee is plenty articulate to be our candidate, while we can hold Palin in reserve. Remember, the man used to be a preacher, so he knows how to speak in public.
Sep 19, 2009 - 6:01 pm 68. Moho:Myth Buster: Used to be a preacher? Why there’s a lot of other things that preachers are famous for. Sodomizing young boys, breaking up marriages and pilfering the pot, and making you idiots buy them Cadillacs. Yes, he’ll make a great president. Unfortunately, the disembodied twittering of Palin is dealing her out of the game. Its not to late to check her into the Betty Ford clinic for her methamphetamine addiction or therapy for her post-partum depression and mid-life crisis. But yeah, after you fix all that, she’s just going to win over the public with her “just folks” frightening anecdotes.
Sep 19, 2009 - 7:47 pm 69. Moho:She sure can drive the debate, er…I mean, drive down the Republican approval rating, which is at its lowest in history–27%. Yeah, she’s making a lot of inroads.
http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm
Sep 19, 2009 - 7:52 pm 70. Ed Sommers:It is so interesting to read what you righties are saying. And it’s amazing too. Sarah Palin might be a nice person. She might have “star quality”…whatever floats your boat. But she has no intellect, no knowledge, no meaningful experience. She was elected to be governor of a small population state, and she quit. That’s a great credential. You think the Dems are trying to “Quale her”? Quale is an intellectual giant by comparison to Palin. As a Democrat, I hope Palin is the next Repug presidential candidate. She’ll be sliced and diced in the campaign.
And Obama’s a liar? Really? He’s lying about what? Is he lying about the fact that private health insurance companies deny 36% of claims in filed California? Is he lying about the fact that under the current system ANYONE could be forced to file for bankruptcy if they were unfortunate enough to be diagnosed with a serious illness that required expensive treatment — without which he/she would die? Is he lying about the fact that the Repugs and Blue Dog Dems who oppose health care reform are collecting millions of dollars in contributions from health care companies and insurance companies? Is he lying about the fact that Americans spend more on healthcare and receive LESS and WORSE care than Canadians, British or French citizens? Is Obama lying, or are you righties in denial?
Sep 19, 2009 - 9:01 pm 71. billslayer:62. A. Stephens: Nope, sorry, you can’t fake how bad she did in those interviews. And no I don’t think loquacity is a prerequisite, but damn, inability to articulate should be a red flag. Don’t get me wrong, may be one day she’ll get there, maybe even by 2012, but right now she ain’t ready to go head to head with the likes of Hillary or Obama–but the other guys are. We don’t need her as a presidential candidate when we already have a field with the likes of Huckabee, Romney, and maybe Pawlenty., they’ll just have to take the gloves off and call Obama the liar that he is. Now if we could get those guys to just stop sniping at each other… that stuff hurts us all. That said, and it pains me to say this–she actually did better in the debate against Biden than McCain did against Obama.
Sep 19, 2009 - 9:10 pm 72. Inrptrn:56 vivo:
“Non-Hispanic whites will be a minority by 2042, so they’ll be halfway there by 2020 and it’s already 2010. Fasten your seatbelt!”
You are a racist
Sep 19, 2009 - 9:17 pm 73. Diogenes:Sarah Palin packed a powerful punch because of her Wal-Mart roots and her extraordinary life story. Politicians can mouth mere rhetoric about life counseling but when a recent mother of a Downs Syndrome child speaks, the impact is real and reverberates in the body politic.
Obama and the Congress had set themselves up for Palin’s surgical strikes. People were already “roiled and ready”. She just lit a match to the fire that, in some respects, was already burning.
The author gives Sarah “single handed” credit for a number of separate dynamics that all came together in the last 2 weeks of July and 1st week of August. It would be nice if the pat answer was Sarah walking out into Main Street as Gary Cooper did in “High Noon” to meet the black hats. Unfortunately, life is more complex than that and credit goes to many, of which Sarah Palin may deserve the highest accolades.
She lit a fire into the Conservative cause in 2008 and can build it further. Sarah Palin needs to climb more, strive more and show the country that she is ready to lead.
She can inherit the mantle of Reagan, but like him, she needs to get out on the hustings and learn and master retail politics on a National level. Lest you think I am critical, I am rooting for her to do it.
Sep 19, 2009 - 10:27 pm 74. Scott:Palin’s ascent drove the left absolutely mad, and since then a lot has happened that will help her in any bid for office she might make.
Between the liberal crackup on the anti-Obamacare protests and the ACORN scandal, their “race card early and often” approach has really cost ‘em big, I think.
The Scarlet R has, once again, been unleashed by the tired, predictable and rather desperate forces of liberalism in America. Of course, everyone who opposes them is a “racist”.
*yawn*
The gig is up, I think. Everyone is on to their insane little game, as in “EVERYBODY EXPECTS…THE LIBERAL INQUISITION!” at http://firebreathingchristian.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/everybody-expects-the-liberal-inquisition/
Let’s get this bad comedy act off the stage once and for all. I’d love to see Palin play a role in that!
Sep 19, 2009 - 10:43 pm 75. ReB:I was frightened by BO before I knew why. I still am! Still, I wasn’t enthused by McCain. I was despondant because I couldn’t see how McCain could compete with BO. There was no life in the Republican ticket. Then along came Sarah!!! Some people say that she kept McCain from winning. I think she may have trippled the votes he got. In my view, Sarah carried the ticket as far as it got.
Sep 20, 2009 - 12:07 am 76. Khiri:If Palin was such a bumpkin, if she was such a drag on the ticket, if she is so ignorant, if she is such a fool(I can see Russia…), if she is a quitter and has no backbone, Then why doesn’t she just quietly slip away out of public notice?
Could it be that she is in fact an enormous threat to the whole political world? Could she be what Kennedy was? What RR was? Why all the expressions of contempt? Me thinks they do protest too much!!
How well did Sarah do in those “interviews?” I challenge The Won to undergo the same exact type of interviews (and JoeJoe the Wonder Dog).
You Obamatrons would see what the rest of us already know: He’s a moron!
Sep 20, 2009 - 4:39 am 77. vivo:72. Inrptrn:
“56 vivo:
“Non-Hispanic whites will be a minority by 2042, so they’ll be halfway there by 2020 and it’s already 2010. Fasten your seatbelt!”
You are a racist”
U r so funny. Quoting statistical projections is racist . . . Talking about race is racist? What are you, a Martian? Oops, that’s green . . .
Sep 20, 2009 - 5:06 am 78. Carl Sesar:Talk about slice and dice, Charles Krauthammer, not a big fan of Sarah Palin, stated loud and clear at the very beginning of an article of his highly critical of Obama’s healthcare bill, that what she’d said about it was all wrong. Then he deftly cut the bill to pieces, and unwittingly proved that Sarah Palin was right!
I sent him this note:
Thank you, Charles Krauthammer, for a most excellent article: but if you want it to resonate among our citizenry far and wide, and to penetrate the thick skulls and obtuse mentalities of our elected representatives sitting on their fat asses in Congress, then boil it down to two simple words that, when all’s said and done, embody the essential truth of the matter: “death panels.”
That was in late August. I would add today that the haughty condescension still on display toward Sarah Palin is a mark not of intellect or wit, but profound stupidity.
Sep 20, 2009 - 8:30 am 79. Now and Then:51 Layer of Bill
“I have very strong misgivings about Palin.”
Hey, I’d have misgivings, too, about somebody who got her start sucking prong behind the tent at Ted Stevens rallies. Then there’s that mulatto baby she had down at her third college (out of five). Didn’t know about that?
76. Khiri:
“He’s a moron!”
In what respect, Khirlie?
Sep 20, 2009 - 8:37 am 80. Xcontra:Good point, a fair view of events.
It shows the difference between a politician who comes up the hard way, like Palin, and a weakling like Obama or Howard Dean.
So who has better skill when it counts? Palin, and she had NO nothing from the pundits, no Beltway sleigh ride from the press.
Good work, Sarah!
Sep 20, 2009 - 8:54 am 81. Politics for dummies:Last week, Charles Gibson who will soon be “retiring” from ABC news, was asked why the main stream media hadn’t been covering the Acorn scandal.
Now, for all you mouth breathers who keep on claiming Sarah Palin did poorly in interviews while running for President, especially the one with Charles Gibson when he asked her about the Bush Doctrine, I’d like you to give me your reaction to Gibson’s answer; the one he gave last week about the Acorn scandal.
Gibson answered. “What Acorn Scandal? I haven’t heard anything.”
You can chalk it up to a senior moment, I guess. Of course, no member of the press fraternity later asked Gibson why he answered in that way.
Granted, it’s not near as bad as Sherri Sheperd of the “View” seriously trying to decide if she believes the earth is round or flat, but Gibson’s answer left his friends with their mouths hanging open.
unfortunately for the Democrats, not just the hard left news media has trouble answering the questions of the day.
Take President Obama trying to respond to overriding concerns that ObamaCare will use tax dollars to provide health care for illegal aliens.
During the big speech last week, Joe Wilson caught Obama in a bald faced lie.
Wilson yelled out in senate chambers (bad form although the left booed and shouted out aspersions when Bush was giving a state of the union speech) “You lie.”
If you’re following my train of thought, perhaps you ask yourself where Obama’s lie was.
I’ll tell you. Here’s where Barack lies like, say a President Clinton who said,”I had no sexual relations with that woman.” Clinton’s lawyers said the phrase, “sexual relations” didn’t apply to the kind of sex Bill had with Monica.
Obama, with his lawyers within whispering distance, told Obama to say, “people are claiming that our reform efforts will insure illegal immigrants”.
Which isn’t true. Nobody’s claiming that.
Rather, here’s the concern.
People are concerned that illegal aliens (uninsured illegal aliens) will receive free care through ObamaCare.
See the difference?
The legal loophole involves the fact that illegal aliens don’t have to be insured or “covered” to receive ObamaCare.
President Double talk then makes another totally meaningless statement when he says,” “the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally”.
“Apply”? What in the world does that mean?
It means nothing. To suggest that it’s further proof that illegal aliens won’t receive ObamaCare is a lie.
In truth, Rep, Keller introduced a provision in ObambCare that would have shut the door on illegal aliens receiving ObamaCare. Can you guess what the Democrats did? They voted it down. The vote: 28-16 on straight party lines.
The above is what provoked Joe Wilson to say, “You lie.”
Regardless of what Obama’s weasel words say, the question is whether, ObamaCare will dole out health care to illegal aliens.
I’m talking about what will actually happen. Obama is using words that sound like illegal aliens won’t receive free healthcare.
But the words are lawyer weasel words, filled with loopholes far as the eye can see.
Joe Wilson is no dummy. Obama lies with the rapidity of an assault rifle on automatic.
Sep 20, 2009 - 8:56 am 82. Now and Then:Fair and Balanced . . .
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/media/
Sep 20, 2009 - 9:00 am 83. pappy:God Bless Mrs. Palin in any endeavor
Sep 20, 2009 - 9:41 am 84. Now and Then:that she set’s about. Surely the dips lean
on her every word, hoping it’s not going
to catch them in another lie, but thats an
impossible task because the dips are all
liars all the time.
The ascendency of Palin? . . . Politics is 97% fiction and 3% imagination.
Sep 20, 2009 - 9:58 am 85. Now and Then:13. Panini:
“Sarah Palin points to an important truth: if you care for others, then let them choose what they want and do what they want.”
Good, I want an abortion. I want to smoke weed. Is this a great country or what?
Sep 20, 2009 - 10:01 am 86. seanmahair:Ah, yes. The don’t do as we do, do as we say brigade is here. No one at ABC,CBS, MSMBC has ever worked the crowd………..no they simply lie, obfuscate and distract from their own personal agenda. TRANSPARENCY!
As for Sarah, she is the new poster-child for the Republican answer for “Yes We Can”.
It’s from the Marine Vet David Henrick “…. keep you hands off my kids”.
Sep 20, 2009 - 10:24 am 87. Moho:ReB–>”I was frightened by BO before I knew why.”
If only the rest of you could be this honest. Its true; all the Republican party had to do was make up the pretexts, and you were more than willing to gobble them up in order to justify you’re indescribable fear.
Sep 20, 2009 - 10:59 am 88. MichaelSSEC:Sure didn’t take long for the Obama Truth Squads to come scampering out of the woodwork with their all-purpose Race Bait and the tiresome charge that the GOP are a bunch of haters.
What they refuse to admit is that these Town Hall meetings, Tea Parties and 9/12 protests weren’t just GOP rallies. There were lots of people there who were never really into politics before. They’re neither Liberal nor Conservative. They are simply opposed to massive government, unsustainable deficits, tax and spend ideology, government takeover of private businesses, national health care, cap and trade tax schemes, and using shading political action groups to funnel taxpayer dollars into illegal activities — like ACORN has been doing all over the country since the 90s.
Obama and his uber-Leftist cadre do not represent mainstream America and it has nothing to do with his skin. The author of this article is correct. Sarah Palin has tapped into something Liberals will never understand: American independence. Sarah speaks for regular Americans who are totally fed up with the corruption that has become standard operating procedure in DC. It’s not just Democrats. The Republicans of the last years, RINOs who helped spend tons of money we didn’t even have, who brought us into two wars without a real strategy or coherent set of goals, and who allowed Leftist trolls to drive our banking industry into bankruptcy, were just as guilty.
There are good proposals on the table that will end this recession rather than prolong it into the foreseeable future, genuinely reform health care to rein in these spiraling costs without turning over the whole industry to the incompetent hands of bureaucrats, and bring the United Nations to heel before it succeeds in its nefarious goals. Notice the mainstream media is not talking about any of those proposals. They’re talking about the administration’s ultra-Leftist radical ideas, all of which are the exact opposite of what America needs.
Sep 20, 2009 - 11:27 am 89. MichaelSSEC:“Then there’s that mulatto baby she had down at her third college (out of five). Didn’t know about that?”
And Liberals call *us* racists? Under any other circumstances, pointing out that a white woman had a mixed-race child as a means of smearing her would have everyone from Whoopi Goldberg to Al Sharpton to the ghost of Ted Kennedy exploding on-camera with outrage. But use the exact same accusation against a successful, accomplished, popular Conservative and suddenly that makes it all right? Suddenly, because it’s Sarah Palin, it’s acceptable to sneer that she had a “mulatto baby”? This is just the latest example of Liberals showing that they don’t really believe any of the things they claim to believe. Liberals are the race-obsessed ones who think nothing of smearing a black candidate who happens to be a Republican. But let anyone disagree with a black LIBERAL candidate and it MUST be racism.
Liberals = EPIC FAIL.
Sep 20, 2009 - 11:36 am 90. Moho:Now and Then: When they say “let them choose”, she only means people who think like her. Everyone else, of course, is obviously evil and trying to take away “their” right to do whatever they want to do. This tactic has always worked for obvious reasons–about 20% of any given population can’t tell their ass from a hole in the ground. The world passes them by, they aren’t required to do anything but menial, uncomplicated work. Tell them their uninformed opinion is important, and that their actions matter and they’ll do anything for the favor. That’s Republican strategy in a nutshell, and the knuckle-dragging hillbilly trogs that post and write here are more than ample evidence of it.
Sep 20, 2009 - 12:15 pm 91. Aeroplane:@79 Now and Then, You are one sad individual. You can’t bring a cogent argument to the table so you resort to making up things. You accuse Palin of having a mulatto baby, which is of course another fictional Obot lie, as if having a bi-racial child is some kind of shameful thing. Isn’t that what your hero Obama is, a mulatto, a bi-racial child?
I can see why you want to smoke pot and have an abortion (post 85). Apparently that’s the only thing you’re good for.
Sep 20, 2009 - 1:52 pm 92. Claire:I fail to see how she is even relevant to this debate. A Facebook posting and an inaccurate Op/Ed are not enough to derail an intelligent discussion. The problem is that most of the discussion has been neither informed nor intelligent. From either side of the aisle.
Sep 20, 2009 - 2:05 pm 93. Marc Malone:Right after Palin made her death panels comment, a slew of articles came out on this site. I stated then that it was over; that she had slain the bill and was mounting it on her wall. I was subsequently proven correct.
So, those of you who believe that she doesn’t deserve as much credit as all that, well, you’re just plain wrong. Were there other factors? Yes, but she nailed it dead center through the heart. It galvanized the people; got them to pay attention. Finally, finally, people were ready to look into the actual details, and the ugly truth was revealed.
All the spin in the world can’t hide the truth, now, because people have read the actual bill. They had to be galvanized. “Death Panels” galvanized them. It was all over at that point. ObamaCare is now at the taxidermist.
Sep 20, 2009 - 2:07 pm 94. Now and Then:91. Aeroplane:
” a mulatto baby, which is of course another fictional Obot lie . . .”
So, it’s true!
Sep 20, 2009 - 2:29 pm 95. MikenZ:Maybe, just maybe there is a glimpse of hope for the world.
Sep 20, 2009 - 2:59 pm 96. Poor Citizen:President Palin in 2012 will happen only if the American people get off their duffs.
The world needs it as much as America does.
You have been a beacon of light for this past century and if OB1 isn’t displaced and the GOP/DEM old boys aren’t voted out you are screwed and us by extension.
MikeNZ
And hey vivo, dont forget that no. 28 immanuel..
is correct !!
Alaska is not just some backwater state. It is bordered by Nasty Russia on one side and Cozy, soft, socialist Canada on the other. So stop picking on Sarah ok?
Remember, Sarah Palin was the first governor of Alaska that could see both Russia and Canada from her backyard. And… thats how she knew they were both evil socialist countries. Ask anyone in Wasilla… its true !! They say that/s why she quit, she wanted to spread the word in lower 48 about all the things she saw while up there in Alaska….thank you Sarah !!
Sep 20, 2009 - 3:47 pm 97. Aeroplane:Yes, now and then, the fact that Obama is a mulatto baby is true.
Sep 20, 2009 - 3:56 pm 98. bibio44:“It was her timely intervention that put the Democrats off their game and turned the debate around.”
Absolutely correct. She caught the Dems totally off-guard. They never dreamed a politician of national stature could sink so low.
Sep 20, 2009 - 4:05 pm 99. McBride:My how the trolls wallow in their impotent rage,sad psychological projections,repressed racist fantasies and the pathological denial of truth.Spewing philippic diatribes on every thread.Pitiful really,that such people go through life swallowing the phantasmagoria that is “progressive” dogma.Never questioning why a belief system,so obviously based in a blatantly recusant view of the truth,has failed to deliver them the promised hope,happiness and spiritual fulfillment.Blaming their failure on the alleged recalcitrant racism of their political opponents.Stubbornly continuing on in the downward spiral of hate bred by fear.Petulantly wailing an ineffectual “tu quoque” argument with stamping feet,fists clenched,their eyes and ears shut tight against the truth.Jealous and bitter in the knowledge that they themselves are so flawed,that the only way for them to attain the economic fruits of liberty,aquired by successful citizens,who aspired to such and were rewarded for sacrifice and hard work,is by legalized theft.Relying on the democratic party to enact politically expedient “social justice” programs to assuage the phenomenon of democrat “white guilt”,To repent the criminal complicity of the past racist policies of the democratic party.Never giving a thought or a care pertaining to their own racism,or whether such legislation is even within the framework of our Constitutional Republic.
Sep 20, 2009 - 5:13 pm 100. myth buster:98. How could anything Palin said be worse than Harry Reid saying that “The war is lost.”
Sep 20, 2009 - 5:14 pm 101. Now and Then:97. Aeroplane:
“Yes, now and then, the fact that Obama is a mulatto baby is true.”
No way. That can’t be true. Is this another Orly Taitz skit? Obama half black half white? Is that why Rush called him a Hafrican? Oh, wait, now I get it! Thanks for clueing me in, Blue Aeroplane. You should tell more people about this half-n-half thing. I bet conservatives would be interested to know that.
Sep 20, 2009 - 5:26 pm 102. ANNIE:PJM…WHERE ARE YOUR MONITORS/MODERATORS? ASLEEP???
Sep 20, 2009 - 5:58 pm 103. vivo:96. Poor Citizen:
“So stop picking on Sarah ok?”
That’s hard to do sometimes. She’s like a beach ball: bouncy and fun to play with, a large plastic ball with vivid colors that captures the attention of the revelers, but some are just expecting to see when a little puncture will bring her down and will toss it to oblivion.
Sep 20, 2009 - 6:14 pm 104. Now and Then:99. McBride:
I’m sorry, you know how when you yawn you can’t hear anything? Well, my bad. Could you repeat that?
Sep 20, 2009 - 8:25 pm 105. Robohobo:Annie – I hate to tell you but the moderators do not. They will probably leave this post in moderation because I say something about them.
For those who are not tracking the Health care bill, HR 3200, properly, here is the post of one who is from American Thinker’s post, “The Obama Jingle: I Do It All for You”
Michael Connelly, a retired attorney and teacher of law says:
Money quote, again:
It is about power and control, not health care. The Statists want to control all aspects of our civic life and that is their end goal. If they can do that, then they also control the fruits of that life = the money.
Do not worry about vivo, moho, Now and Then and the other trolls, they are just the gadfly distraction. They are here to distract and nothing else.
Best thing I have heard is Subotai Bahadur at the Belmont Club. He said that we heard Obama wrong, he did not say ‘Hope and Change’, he said “Rope and Chains’. Pretty astute that.
Sep 20, 2009 - 9:53 pm 106. Charles Kirtley:The Republican Party is in deep trouble. At a time when their star should be rising the “leaders” include a not-so-bright quitter, a religious nut job, and a socialist who gave his state Obamacare before anyone heard of Obama.
Of course it’s a long way to 2012. Hopefully a true conservative will emerge to lead the party between now and then.
Sep 20, 2009 - 10:00 pm 107. Jamie W.:vivo:
“So many nuts so little time. I wish I’d get paid. It’s all freelance and independent. After Leno, Letterman, Conan, Ferguson, Stewart and Colbert I (sometimes) get my kicks from Pajamas, O’Reilly, Hannity and Fox.”
No job and/or life, huh? That explains a lot. . .
(sorry for feeding troll – could not resist this one)
Sep 21, 2009 - 12:35 am 108. mik:you give palin too much credit.
she’s a star. but prez in 2012? I don’t think so. she’s a bit too petty and and whines a bit too much.
she’ll throw a line or two on facebook. does that make her a leader? the only thing she has that other facebook users don’t have is an audience. that’s it
Sep 21, 2009 - 2:21 am 109. narciso:One notices there is no substantial critique of the policy positions that she puts forward, with
Sep 21, 2009 - 8:07 am 110. Dwight:footnotes, that’s about what I’ve come to expect. Then again, people who have no quarrel with Fidel or Guevara or wannabe imitators like
patrician terrorist William Ayers, one wouldn’t see any issue
A mulatto baby? Where did THAT come from? She may be even more interesting than I had thought.
Sep 21, 2009 - 11:23 am 111. vivo:107. Jamie W.:
“So many nuts so little time.”
What did I tell you?
U made my point!
Sep 21, 2009 - 2:07 pm 112. McBride:What’s the matter N&T couldn’t find your dictionary?
Sep 21, 2009 - 2:20 pm 113. bobbybb:I will give it to Palin on this one. She has the ability to blatantly lie again and again and again…and the right, including the religious right fall all over themselves cheering for her. She does have an enthusiastic following who swallow up her lies with fervor. I don’t think she is very articulate at times, but stupid…hell no. She is a brilliant politician. Most of her flops have been in areas that she hasn’t had much knowledge in, but should she want to study up, the sky is the limit. She is a very formidable opponent, but I have a problem with her constant lies.
Sep 21, 2009 - 2:54 pm 114. narciso:Don’t you trolls ever tire of getting things wrong”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/killing_granny_1.html
Sep 21, 2009 - 3:57 pm