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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/people-died-buchanan-lied/comment-page-2/#comment-74180</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Buchanan&#039;s new book makes some great points but falls apart when he spins he tries to spin his antisemitism in to something he thinks people can digest. He poises him self in a position where you have to agree with him, but then drops a bomb in your lap. Nice tactics, but none the less futile. I suggest reading  &lt;a href=&quot;http://jaajoe.com/Books/Book-Review-Churchill-Hitler-and-the-Unnecessary-War.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this book review on his new book&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Buchanan&#8217;s new book makes some great points but falls apart when he spins he tries to spin his antisemitism in to something he thinks people can digest. He poises him self in a position where you have to agree with him, but then drops a bomb in your lap. Nice tactics, but none the less futile. I suggest reading  <a href="http://jaajoe.com/Books/Book-Review-Churchill-Hitler-and-the-Unnecessary-War.html" rel="nofollow">this book review on his new book</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/people-died-buchanan-lied/comment-page-2/#comment-70879</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm, isn&#039;t she factually wrong in this article? Iraq and Saddam started the Iran-Iraq war--not Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm, isn&#8217;t she factually wrong in this article? Iraq and Saddam started the Iran-Iraq war&#8211;not Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignorance galore &#171; The Political Inquirer</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/people-died-buchanan-lied/comment-page-2/#comment-70878</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignorance galore &#171; The Political Inquirer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 7, 2008 by Lance   Sheryl Longin made me stare at the screen in disbelief for about ten seconds. In her rant on Pat Buchanan where she makes the case that Iran is a warmongering state, she writes: But how [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 7, 2008 by Lance   Sheryl Longin made me stare at the screen in disbelief for about ten seconds. In her rant on Pat Buchanan where she makes the case that Iran is a warmongering state, she writes: But how [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom A</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/people-died-buchanan-lied/comment-page-2/#comment-70083</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;rookie1824: But, except for the America and Jew haters who posted here, I was preaching to the choir.&quot;

Now I get it, you&#039;re a lightweight ranter. The ugliness of of your jingoistic hate rather gives you away. My fault for addressing you in the first place. Won&#039;t happen again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;rookie1824: But, except for the America and Jew haters who posted here, I was preaching to the choir.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I get it, you&#8217;re a lightweight ranter. The ugliness of of your jingoistic hate rather gives you away. My fault for addressing you in the first place. Won&#8217;t happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisGreen</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/people-died-buchanan-lied/comment-page-2/#comment-69593</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cederford, in your opinion, do you think England should not made a treaty with Poland?  If that were the case, do you think a war would have been avoided?  Do you think Germany could have &#039;humiliated&#039; France and taken large chunks of non-German land (like most of Poland) and invaded Russia (even if his aim wasn&#039;t to destroy it) and that more nations wouldn&#039;t have been sucked into war?  Finally, do you think that the war would have been longer and more costly if the non-appeasers had won out and Germany had been confronted sooner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cederford, in your opinion, do you think England should not made a treaty with Poland?  If that were the case, do you think a war would have been avoided?  Do you think Germany could have &#8216;humiliated&#8217; France and taken large chunks of non-German land (like most of Poland) and invaded Russia (even if his aim wasn&#8217;t to destroy it) and that more nations wouldn&#8217;t have been sucked into war?  Finally, do you think that the war would have been longer and more costly if the non-appeasers had won out and Germany had been confronted sooner?</p>
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		<title>By: rookie1824</title>
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		<dc:creator>rookie1824</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChrisGreen, regarding my observations about Tom A, readers can draw their own conclusions about the merits of my approach.  But, except for the America and Jew haters who posted here, I was preaching to the choir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChrisGreen, regarding my observations about Tom A, readers can draw their own conclusions about the merits of my approach.  But, except for the America and Jew haters who posted here, I was preaching to the choir.</p>
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		<title>By: cedarford</title>
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		<dc:creator>cedarford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iran’s buring desire to exterminate the Jews is based on their leader’s constant statements of just that sentiment.
So far as Buchanan is concerned the Jews are all powerful and behind every foreign policy move in the Middle East with which he disagarees.&quot;

AIPAC is pretty powerful, and indeed the US should be very careful of being seen as a bribed tool of the Zionists. Especially about being the dumb, easily manipulated Golem going into Iran and fighting and dying not for our vital interests, but to maintain our own albatross necklace&#039;s nuclear WMD monopoly.

AIPAC has adversely affected our vital interests in other countries. Not just the ME.

As for &quot;I&#039;m a Dinner Jacket&quot;, hysterical little Zionists posting about his fire and brimstone tend to be ignorant of Iranian government - In Iran, the President has no war power. A figurehead. That power resides in the Supreme Revolutionary Islamic Council and the Supreme Clerical leader, an Azeri named Khameini. (Who has said WMD should be banned and any attacker using them, terrorist or nation, is outside Islamic Law)

&lt;i&gt;GM Roper:
 Just out of curiosity, who really thinks Pat Buchannan even matters any more? The man is and has been so out of touch with reality that it is pathetic. Who Cares?&lt;/i&gt;

Intelligensia, think tanks, and companies across the Globe. Buchanan in favor again as much of waht he has written about in the last 20 years has been happening as he said it would. He is also a valuable &quot;go to guy&quot; on politics, a &quot;old hand&quot; in DC. And getting new respect from the Left. Where the new saying is &quot;Pat is so far right he comes around and reaches us from the Left and we sometimes agree with him&quot;. 

Besides being in the NY TImes top 10 bestsellers with each of his recent books, they are also international best-sellers in Europe, Russia, Asia. Buchanan is on major networks here and in European &quot;chats&quot;, appears on talk radio. Yes the neocons and Zionists still hate him, but frankly, that is now a selling point with most of the rest of humanity.

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Dark Helmet - &lt;i&gt;hitler wanted to reclaim the Prussian empire, humilate France and then destroy Russia. He had hopes of a stable partner with England. Gazzer is correct in that war was declard on him after he invaded or ‘retook’ Poland.&lt;/i&gt; 

Mostly right. Hitler never wanted to fight the West outside of humiliating France for Versailles &quot;payback&quot;. He wanted self-determination of peoples as Wilsons 14 points promised - which had huge support in most of Europe - though he wanted chunks of non-Germanic land. It all changed when England declared war on him. And no, he did not want to destroy Russia. He wished to destroy instead what he called &quot;Jewish Bolshevikism&quot;, get fair access to Caspian Oil, protect the rights of 3 million Germans inside the USSR, stabilize the Balkans from Communist meddling. 

Buchanan writes the key blunder causing WWII was England, dragging a reluctant France along, in a matter of senseless honor vs Realpolitik, joined in a treaty with Poland to go to war if Hitler tried to bring the lost German city of Danzig back into the Reich. It had been &quot;given away&quot; by force after WWI by starving the German people into signing away, and the Poles had inflicted substantial abuses on the ethnic Germans over the years.

In was NOT begun by &quot;Munich&quot; and &quot;appeasement&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iran’s buring desire to exterminate the Jews is based on their leader’s constant statements of just that sentiment.<br />
So far as Buchanan is concerned the Jews are all powerful and behind every foreign policy move in the Middle East with which he disagarees.&#8221;</p>
<p>AIPAC is pretty powerful, and indeed the US should be very careful of being seen as a bribed tool of the Zionists. Especially about being the dumb, easily manipulated Golem going into Iran and fighting and dying not for our vital interests, but to maintain our own albatross necklace&#8217;s nuclear WMD monopoly.</p>
<p>AIPAC has adversely affected our vital interests in other countries. Not just the ME.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;I&#8217;m a Dinner Jacket&#8221;, hysterical little Zionists posting about his fire and brimstone tend to be ignorant of Iranian government &#8211; In Iran, the President has no war power. A figurehead. That power resides in the Supreme Revolutionary Islamic Council and the Supreme Clerical leader, an Azeri named Khameini. (Who has said WMD should be banned and any attacker using them, terrorist or nation, is outside Islamic Law)</p>
<p><i>GM Roper:<br />
 Just out of curiosity, who really thinks Pat Buchannan even matters any more? The man is and has been so out of touch with reality that it is pathetic. Who Cares?</i></p>
<p>Intelligensia, think tanks, and companies across the Globe. Buchanan in favor again as much of waht he has written about in the last 20 years has been happening as he said it would. He is also a valuable &#8220;go to guy&#8221; on politics, a &#8220;old hand&#8221; in DC. And getting new respect from the Left. Where the new saying is &#8220;Pat is so far right he comes around and reaches us from the Left and we sometimes agree with him&#8221;. </p>
<p>Besides being in the NY TImes top 10 bestsellers with each of his recent books, they are also international best-sellers in Europe, Russia, Asia. Buchanan is on major networks here and in European &#8220;chats&#8221;, appears on talk radio. Yes the neocons and Zionists still hate him, but frankly, that is now a selling point with most of the rest of humanity.</p>
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<p>Dark Helmet &#8211; <i>hitler wanted to reclaim the Prussian empire, humilate France and then destroy Russia. He had hopes of a stable partner with England. Gazzer is correct in that war was declard on him after he invaded or ‘retook’ Poland.</i> </p>
<p>Mostly right. Hitler never wanted to fight the West outside of humiliating France for Versailles &#8220;payback&#8221;. He wanted self-determination of peoples as Wilsons 14 points promised &#8211; which had huge support in most of Europe &#8211; though he wanted chunks of non-Germanic land. It all changed when England declared war on him. And no, he did not want to destroy Russia. He wished to destroy instead what he called &#8220;Jewish Bolshevikism&#8221;, get fair access to Caspian Oil, protect the rights of 3 million Germans inside the USSR, stabilize the Balkans from Communist meddling. </p>
<p>Buchanan writes the key blunder causing WWII was England, dragging a reluctant France along, in a matter of senseless honor vs Realpolitik, joined in a treaty with Poland to go to war if Hitler tried to bring the lost German city of Danzig back into the Reich. It had been &#8220;given away&#8221; by force after WWI by starving the German people into signing away, and the Poles had inflicted substantial abuses on the ethnic Germans over the years.</p>
<p>In was NOT begun by &#8220;Munich&#8221; and &#8220;appeasement&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Javelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a leader of a controlled country makes threats against another nation or shows news footage of missiles in a parade with &quot;Death to &quot; painted on the side, when the language is not English, you can be pretty sure that country are trying to send a message. It&#039;s not like some actor or local politician throwing his two cents in on the evening news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a leader of a controlled country makes threats against another nation or shows news footage of missiles in a parade with &#8220;Death to &#8221; painted on the side, when the language is not English, you can be pretty sure that country are trying to send a message. It&#8217;s not like some actor or local politician throwing his two cents in on the evening news.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisGreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rookie1824, please make statements and then try and support them with facts.  You are making Tom A look good.  

The Iranian regime is very unpopular among the majority of it&#039;s population.  The one thing that would unify the Iranians behind their government would be military strikes by Israel and/or US.  Since military action by the US or Israel is likely to affect regime change in Iran, the overall effect would be to extend the life of the current regime.  It is a brutal kind of logic, but to imagine the Iranian regime to be above such thoughts is to be naive in the extreme.  It&#039;s not too hard to imagine that the Iranians prefer some kind of conflict between Israel and/or the US.  Another article at pajamas media actually addresses this very argument.    


http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iran-and-the-coming-war/

It makes a pretty good argument for why they Iranian regime would want a state of conflict between themselves and a superpower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rookie1824, please make statements and then try and support them with facts.  You are making Tom A look good.  </p>
<p>The Iranian regime is very unpopular among the majority of it&#8217;s population.  The one thing that would unify the Iranians behind their government would be military strikes by Israel and/or US.  Since military action by the US or Israel is likely to affect regime change in Iran, the overall effect would be to extend the life of the current regime.  It is a brutal kind of logic, but to imagine the Iranian regime to be above such thoughts is to be naive in the extreme.  It&#8217;s not too hard to imagine that the Iranians prefer some kind of conflict between Israel and/or the US.  Another article at pajamas media actually addresses this very argument.    </p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iran-and-the-coming-war/" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iran-and-the-coming-war/</a></p>
<p>It makes a pretty good argument for why they Iranian regime would want a state of conflict between themselves and a superpower.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The history of the region - and Iran’s history in particular - shows rather starkly that some very powerful and exceedingly ruthless people are after control of the oil.&quot;

That&#039;s true enough.  The mad mullahs control the oil and since they came into power in 1979 they&#039;ve executed tens of thousands of people for crimes like adultery and homosexuality, so I guess you would have to say they were pretty ruthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The history of the region &#8211; and Iran’s history in particular &#8211; shows rather starkly that some very powerful and exceedingly ruthless people are after control of the oil.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true enough.  The mad mullahs control the oil and since they came into power in 1979 they&#8217;ve executed tens of thousands of people for crimes like adultery and homosexuality, so I guess you would have to say they were pretty ruthless.</p>
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