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		<title>By: Klaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats will unite behind the successful presidential nominee winner in PA, NY, IL, and MA...OR BLUE STATES that voted for Hillary in the primaries. Those blue states will vote Obama in November if he&#039;s the nominee. Let&#039;s be realistic here! They are both great candidates and no doubt would make great presidents. But there can be only one, and it looks like Obama

Obama has garnered huge amounts of interest from new and young voters, which the democrats desperately need. His fundraising capabilities from the Internet and small donations are unheard of! He was not taken that seriously by Clinton or the other established candidates when he entered the race....little did they know. Now the Clinton campaign feels like it&#039;s been t-boned by a Mack truck.

Obama has the attributes of MLK and RFK and it&#039;s generating excitement in politics like we haven&#039;t seen since the 60&#039;s. Clinton can&#039;t steal republican votes because she is polarizing. Obama can, because his message reaches over to those moderate republicans and independents.

Clinton will not be able to stop the Obama express, only slow down the inevitable. I can understand Clinton&#039;s disappointment; she thought it would be an inauguration, a crowning, and an entitlement so to speak. But Obama came along, her dream shattered with a new one in the making.

Once the primaries are over, Hillary should show some grace and bow out, for the good of her friends in the Democratic Party (DNC), the party faithful and most importantly, the USA. Hillary needs to get behind Obama and start focusing on beating McCain in November. 

Hillary will not overtake Obama. Do the math! On the CNN delegate counter, if Hillary wins 55% to 45% on the remaining primaries (highly unlikely), she will still be well behind in the delegate count and popular vote. The Supers would play political suicide, reversing that count.

As for FL and MI Delegates, seat them evenly at the convention 50% Obama and 50% Clinton. They new the rules and broke them. Rules do not get changed in the middle of the game. Their Supers will remain neutral. Clinton can rant and rave all she wants, but she agreed with the DNC decision when the gauntlet was dropped, as did all the other candidates. Obama didn’t even have his name up in MI.

That’s what happens when you try to steal the campaign attention from smaller states that traditionally hold their primaries earlier in the year. Smaller states count too (ask Obama).  Obama deserves credit; he has fought tooth and nail for every caucus and primary to date. Even in states that overwhelmingly support Clinton. This is why he is winning and will be the President of the USA. Obama will not quit because he loves his country and the world in which we all share.

It&#039;s time to move on. No more spin, it’s time to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats will unite behind the successful presidential nominee winner in PA, NY, IL, and MA&#8230;OR BLUE STATES that voted for Hillary in the primaries. Those blue states will vote Obama in November if he&#8217;s the nominee. Let&#8217;s be realistic here! They are both great candidates and no doubt would make great presidents. But there can be only one, and it looks like Obama</p>
<p>Obama has garnered huge amounts of interest from new and young voters, which the democrats desperately need. His fundraising capabilities from the Internet and small donations are unheard of! He was not taken that seriously by Clinton or the other established candidates when he entered the race&#8230;.little did they know. Now the Clinton campaign feels like it&#8217;s been t-boned by a Mack truck.</p>
<p>Obama has the attributes of MLK and RFK and it&#8217;s generating excitement in politics like we haven&#8217;t seen since the 60&#8217;s. Clinton can&#8217;t steal republican votes because she is polarizing. Obama can, because his message reaches over to those moderate republicans and independents.</p>
<p>Clinton will not be able to stop the Obama express, only slow down the inevitable. I can understand Clinton&#8217;s disappointment; she thought it would be an inauguration, a crowning, and an entitlement so to speak. But Obama came along, her dream shattered with a new one in the making.</p>
<p>Once the primaries are over, Hillary should show some grace and bow out, for the good of her friends in the Democratic Party (DNC), the party faithful and most importantly, the USA. Hillary needs to get behind Obama and start focusing on beating McCain in November. </p>
<p>Hillary will not overtake Obama. Do the math! On the CNN delegate counter, if Hillary wins 55% to 45% on the remaining primaries (highly unlikely), she will still be well behind in the delegate count and popular vote. The Supers would play political suicide, reversing that count.</p>
<p>As for FL and MI Delegates, seat them evenly at the convention 50% Obama and 50% Clinton. They new the rules and broke them. Rules do not get changed in the middle of the game. Their Supers will remain neutral. Clinton can rant and rave all she wants, but she agreed with the DNC decision when the gauntlet was dropped, as did all the other candidates. Obama didn’t even have his name up in MI.</p>
<p>That’s what happens when you try to steal the campaign attention from smaller states that traditionally hold their primaries earlier in the year. Smaller states count too (ask Obama).  Obama deserves credit; he has fought tooth and nail for every caucus and primary to date. Even in states that overwhelmingly support Clinton. This is why he is winning and will be the President of the USA. Obama will not quit because he loves his country and the world in which we all share.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to move on. No more spin, it’s time to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,
Maybe Barry&#039;s bitter comments should have been directed at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,<br />
Maybe Barry&#8217;s bitter comments should have been directed at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I challenge everyone reading this to imagine how hard it would be to get to where Obama is now given all the factors which worked against him in his life.&quot;

Obama had more privileged forebears than I. After all, his father went to Harvard, and his folks got him into one of the most exclusive private schools in Hawaii. He managed to smoke pot and still get into Harvard law.


It was easier for Obama to get into the Ivy League than it was for me (we are the same age approx). I had better academic preparation than Obama, higher grades, more smarts, etc., but couldt gain admission to Harvard because, well, I was just a Typical White Person (tm) and didnt have the melanin content that the Ivy schools were looking for. My advanced degrees and Summa Cum Laude grades had to come from elsewhere. 

The wheels were greased for him getting into the Senate when he was in the state house. He was named as sponsor on a bunch of bills he didnt author, as a favor from legislative leaders in Illinois who were grooming him.

After contemplating your question, I conclude that life had treatly me less fairly than it has treated the very-much-coddled Senator Obama. After all, how often does a mere junior Senator with no accomplishments get to rise to the level of Presidential Nominee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I challenge everyone reading this to imagine how hard it would be to get to where Obama is now given all the factors which worked against him in his life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama had more privileged forebears than I. After all, his father went to Harvard, and his folks got him into one of the most exclusive private schools in Hawaii. He managed to smoke pot and still get into Harvard law.</p>
<p>It was easier for Obama to get into the Ivy League than it was for me (we are the same age approx). I had better academic preparation than Obama, higher grades, more smarts, etc., but couldt gain admission to Harvard because, well, I was just a Typical White Person &#8482; and didnt have the melanin content that the Ivy schools were looking for. My advanced degrees and Summa Cum Laude grades had to come from elsewhere. </p>
<p>The wheels were greased for him getting into the Senate when he was in the state house. He was named as sponsor on a bunch of bills he didnt author, as a favor from legislative leaders in Illinois who were grooming him.</p>
<p>After contemplating your question, I conclude that life had treatly me less fairly than it has treated the very-much-coddled Senator Obama. After all, how often does a mere junior Senator with no accomplishments get to rise to the level of Presidential Nominee?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People who cling to things like guns, religion and xenophobia are easy targets for politicians who want to use fear to accomplish their ends.&quot;

There are no such people who &quot;cling&quot; to their values, they simply live them. It is an offensive stereotype. The religious people I know are wildly successful people. They &#039;cling&#039; to nothing, although I did here on Catholic radio this week the phrase &quot;The Pope is our  Hope&quot;.  I know a gun owner and 2nd amendment supporters; she&#039;s in her 60s and drives a Lexus. Granny packs heat. Folks dont own guns because they lost a mill job years ago - that&#039;s moronic thinking.

Barack Hussein Obama was as insulting to small town America as a white person would be if he were surprised that a black person could be clean, wear a suit, and talk non-ghetto (cue Joe Biden).

Xenophobia is just a basher-term for people who oppose the horrible positions of voted-against-border-wall and wants-drivers-licenses-for-illegals Obama.  Never mind that Obama is himself tapping into that supposed vein by bashing trade agreements that are good for the US. He and the Democrats are opposing the Columbia free trade agreement, whose #1 impact will be to lower tariffs on US exports.
We already have no tariffs on Columbian goods. It&#039;s pure demagogic foolishness to oppose this deal, but the Democrats will do it.

There are people who cling to multi-culturalist racially divisive stereotyping of Typical White Persons (tm), and such clingers tend to be assistant profs of Gender Studies at your community college. The shocker is not that such idiocies arent expressed, nor is it shocking that someone on a blog is actually clueless enough to buy into said phony stereotyping.

The shocker is that someone out-of-touch enough to share the bigoted stereotypes is attempting to be our President.  Barack Obama, far from being a racial &#039;healer&#039;, is bringing racial divisiveness with him in many ways. The way he threw his own Grandmother under the bus to defend Rev Wright was ... wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People who cling to things like guns, religion and xenophobia are easy targets for politicians who want to use fear to accomplish their ends.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are no such people who &#8220;cling&#8221; to their values, they simply live them. It is an offensive stereotype. The religious people I know are wildly successful people. They &#8216;cling&#8217; to nothing, although I did here on Catholic radio this week the phrase &#8220;The Pope is our  Hope&#8221;.  I know a gun owner and 2nd amendment supporters; she&#8217;s in her 60s and drives a Lexus. Granny packs heat. Folks dont own guns because they lost a mill job years ago &#8211; that&#8217;s moronic thinking.</p>
<p>Barack Hussein Obama was as insulting to small town America as a white person would be if he were surprised that a black person could be clean, wear a suit, and talk non-ghetto (cue Joe Biden).</p>
<p>Xenophobia is just a basher-term for people who oppose the horrible positions of voted-against-border-wall and wants-drivers-licenses-for-illegals Obama.  Never mind that Obama is himself tapping into that supposed vein by bashing trade agreements that are good for the US. He and the Democrats are opposing the Columbia free trade agreement, whose #1 impact will be to lower tariffs on US exports.<br />
We already have no tariffs on Columbian goods. It&#8217;s pure demagogic foolishness to oppose this deal, but the Democrats will do it.</p>
<p>There are people who cling to multi-culturalist racially divisive stereotyping of Typical White Persons &#8482;, and such clingers tend to be assistant profs of Gender Studies at your community college. The shocker is not that such idiocies arent expressed, nor is it shocking that someone on a blog is actually clueless enough to buy into said phony stereotyping.</p>
<p>The shocker is that someone out-of-touch enough to share the bigoted stereotypes is attempting to be our President.  Barack Obama, far from being a racial &#8216;healer&#8217;, is bringing racial divisiveness with him in many ways. The way he threw his own Grandmother under the bus to defend Rev Wright was &#8230; wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: John the Libertarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>John the Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have said many, many times before: the Democrats are in serious, serious trouble this election cycle.  Both candidates are extremely weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said many, many times before: the Democrats are in serious, serious trouble this election cycle.  Both candidates are extremely weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who cling to things like god, family, and loyalty to homeland are easy targets for politicians who want to use fear to accomplish their ends. Instead of hatred for conservatives they focus on people’s love of natural human concerns. I have no doubt that Bush and the rethuglicans used this to get elected and lets face it it was the less educated typical white people which let him get his way. And we are all poorer as a nation for it.

Obama on the other hand was given his privilege like a pampered child.  He walked into the US Senate with virtually no opposition, and has served less than half of a single Senate term.  That means that he is entitled to be US President, and to enforce his enlightened views upon America and the world.  We, the enlightened backers of Obama insist upon it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who cling to things like god, family, and loyalty to homeland are easy targets for politicians who want to use fear to accomplish their ends. Instead of hatred for conservatives they focus on people’s love of natural human concerns. I have no doubt that Bush and the rethuglicans used this to get elected and lets face it it was the less educated typical white people which let him get his way. And we are all poorer as a nation for it.</p>
<p>Obama on the other hand was given his privilege like a pampered child.  He walked into the US Senate with virtually no opposition, and has served less than half of a single Senate term.  That means that he is entitled to be US President, and to enforce his enlightened views upon America and the world.  We, the enlightened backers of Obama insist upon it!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand by what I said totally. People who cling to things like guns, religion and xenophobia are easy targets for politicians who want to use fear to accomplish their ends. Instead of hope they focus on people&#039;s percieved terrors. I have no doubt that Bush and the republicans used this to get elected and lets face it it was the less educated white evangelicals which let him get his way. And we are all poorer as a nation for it. As for rising to elite status with their own hard work, I challenge everyone reading this to imagine how hard it would be to get to where Obama is now given all the factors which worked against him in his life. He didn&#039;t get there with his name recognition thats for sure (I am looking at you G.W.Bush and Hillary Clinton).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand by what I said totally. People who cling to things like guns, religion and xenophobia are easy targets for politicians who want to use fear to accomplish their ends. Instead of hope they focus on people&#8217;s percieved terrors. I have no doubt that Bush and the republicans used this to get elected and lets face it it was the less educated white evangelicals which let him get his way. And we are all poorer as a nation for it. As for rising to elite status with their own hard work, I challenge everyone reading this to imagine how hard it would be to get to where Obama is now given all the factors which worked against him in his life. He didn&#8217;t get there with his name recognition thats for sure (I am looking at you G.W.Bush and Hillary Clinton).</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg: &quot;We want an America-hating race-baiter from bizarro-land who can’t be questioned about anything, because that would be unfair.&quot;

I&#039;ve got to say that in the past few weeks, Obama has succeeded in doing what I thought was impossible.  He&#039;s made Hillary Clinton seem likeable.  Although I can&#039;t imagine any circumstance in which I&#039;d choose to vote for either Hillary or Obama, if I HAD to choose between them, Hillary would definitely have my vote.  Sure she&#039;s got problems with the truth and she&#039;s a divisive figure, but as president, I imagine she&#039;d be more like her husband (who was nothing great), whereas Obama shows every sign of being worse than Jimmy Carter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg: &#8220;We want an America-hating race-baiter from bizarro-land who can’t be questioned about anything, because that would be unfair.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to say that in the past few weeks, Obama has succeeded in doing what I thought was impossible.  He&#8217;s made Hillary Clinton seem likeable.  Although I can&#8217;t imagine any circumstance in which I&#8217;d choose to vote for either Hillary or Obama, if I HAD to choose between them, Hillary would definitely have my vote.  Sure she&#8217;s got problems with the truth and she&#8217;s a divisive figure, but as president, I imagine she&#8217;d be more like her husband (who was nothing great), whereas Obama shows every sign of being worse than Jimmy Carter.</p>
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		<title>By: always right</title>
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		<dc:creator>always right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Andrew&quot; must be a plant.  There is NO WAY anybody on the liberal side will confess to &lt;i&gt;&quot;I have been making fun of trailer trash, god-fearing, gun-nuts for a long time. They scare the hell out of me and I do hope they stay home come election time because their idea of a leader is a cross between Jerry Falwell and Yosemite Sam.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

It is SIMPLY NOT DONE.  Or he could be a bad imitator of the liberals, with all the attitudes but not the finesse.  

&lt;i&gt;Word to the wise, America needs elite leaders who rose to that status by their own hard work.&lt;/i&gt;

This is how I derived at “Andrew” being either a plant, an autobot, or an attention-grabbing troll.  Show me a single shred of evidence that either HRC or BHO (1) “rose to th(at) status by their own hard work”, and (2) their ‘eliteness’.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Andrew&#8221; must be a plant.  There is NO WAY anybody on the liberal side will confess to <i>&#8220;I have been making fun of trailer trash, god-fearing, gun-nuts for a long time. They scare the hell out of me and I do hope they stay home come election time because their idea of a leader is a cross between Jerry Falwell and Yosemite Sam.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It is SIMPLY NOT DONE.  Or he could be a bad imitator of the liberals, with all the attitudes but not the finesse.  </p>
<p><i>Word to the wise, America needs elite leaders who rose to that status by their own hard work.</i></p>
<p>This is how I derived at “Andrew” being either a plant, an autobot, or an attention-grabbing troll.  Show me a single shred of evidence that either HRC or BHO (1) “rose to th(at) status by their own hard work”, and (2) their ‘eliteness’.</p>
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		<dc:creator>pennsylvania pandermania &#171; The Homesick American&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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