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		<title>By: MikeHu</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/playing-partisan-politics-with-terrorists-and-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-250271</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeHu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/16/local/me-nuclear16&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I guess my point is worthless, since I am horrible at posting links. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/16/local/me-nuclear16" rel="nofollow">I guess my point is worthless, since I am horrible at posting links. </a></p>
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		<title>By: MikeHu</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/playing-partisan-politics-with-terrorists-and-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-250266</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeHu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hypothetical: A lucky break of intelligence alerts you that Al Qaeda is in the process of sneaking a 10KT nuclear weapon, from North Korea, Iran or the former Soviet Union, in a shipping container to the Port of Los Angeles.  All you know is that it may be on the scene, or almost on the scene, now.  Your team has captured an Al Qaeda member with ties to the suspected nuke users.  &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/16/local/me-nuclear16
&quot;&gt;You are well aware of the potential effects of such a weapon detonation would be in the US&lt;/A&gt;
You try to get information about the timing and location of the plot by using traditional &quot;Pastor of Muppets&quot; and &quot;Erasmus&quot; methods.  You get no actionable information.  You then... (1) walk away and say to yourself, &quot;Well, at least we tried, but I sure feel good about not waterboarding the terrorist&quot; ...just before you briefly notice the blinding light and heat, as you, your wife, children, their friends, your parents, your aunts and uncles, the friendly guy across the street with the &quot;COEXIST&quot; sticker on his Prius, your dog, your cat, etc. are all incinerated, heavily irradiated, or buried in tons of rubble; or (2) fight the battle to stay alive and fight again another day. It&#039;s that simple.  Oh, your wife is calling from Munger, Tolles &amp; Olson in downtown LA - a plane has hit the building below her, and she doesn&#039;t know what to do.  There&#039;s a lot of smoke... hard to breathe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypothetical: A lucky break of intelligence alerts you that Al Qaeda is in the process of sneaking a 10KT nuclear weapon, from North Korea, Iran or the former Soviet Union, in a shipping container to the Port of Los Angeles.  All you know is that it may be on the scene, or almost on the scene, now.  Your team has captured an Al Qaeda member with ties to the suspected nuke users.  <a HREF="http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/16/local/me-nuclear16<br />
">You are well aware of the potential effects of such a weapon detonation would be in the US</a><br />
You try to get information about the timing and location of the plot by using traditional &#8220;Pastor of Muppets&#8221; and &#8220;Erasmus&#8221; methods.  You get no actionable information.  You then&#8230; (1) walk away and say to yourself, &#8220;Well, at least we tried, but I sure feel good about not waterboarding the terrorist&#8221; &#8230;just before you briefly notice the blinding light and heat, as you, your wife, children, their friends, your parents, your aunts and uncles, the friendly guy across the street with the &#8220;COEXIST&#8221; sticker on his Prius, your dog, your cat, etc. are all incinerated, heavily irradiated, or buried in tons of rubble; or (2) fight the battle to stay alive and fight again another day. It&#8217;s that simple.  Oh, your wife is calling from Munger, Tolles &amp; Olson in downtown LA &#8211; a plane has hit the building below her, and she doesn&#8217;t know what to do.  There&#8217;s a lot of smoke&#8230; hard to breathe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MO</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/playing-partisan-politics-with-terrorists-and-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-250097</link>
		<dc:creator>MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If waterboarding is torture?  What is tasering a drunk college kid?  What about handcuffs? They cut into your wrists &amp; leave a rash.  

Seriously, tho.  Where is Mccain?  Wasnt he tortured in Vietnam?  Has he lost his back bone?

Obama needs to read, &quot;Where The Orange Blossoms&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If waterboarding is torture?  What is tasering a drunk college kid?  What about handcuffs? They cut into your wrists &amp; leave a rash.  </p>
<p>Seriously, tho.  Where is Mccain?  Wasnt he tortured in Vietnam?  Has he lost his back bone?</p>
<p>Obama needs to read, &#8220;Where The Orange Blossoms&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul -Indiana</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/playing-partisan-politics-with-terrorists-and-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-249223</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul -Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8.  If there is another major attack I hope it&#039;s in DC so those clowns can experience the problem they created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8.  If there is another major attack I hope it&#8217;s in DC so those clowns can experience the problem they created.</p>
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		<title>By: clarice</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/playing-partisan-politics-with-terrorists-and-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-248962</link>
		<dc:creator>clarice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the Wash Post (NYTimes) lies about the effectiveness of the waterboarding and the number of times KSM was waterboarded (5), Steve Gilbert has traced that whole line of lies back to an anonymous source to the Post..http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-effectiveness-of-harsh-questioning-unclear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the Wash Post (NYTimes) lies about the effectiveness of the waterboarding and the number of times KSM was waterboarded (5), Steve Gilbert has traced that whole line of lies back to an anonymous source to the Post..http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-effectiveness-of-harsh-questioning-unclear</p>
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		<title>By: MikeD</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/playing-partisan-politics-with-terrorists-and-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-248873</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not that Shadow has not been paying attention.  He is uttering distortions and lies like a Paul Begala or a James Carville.  That is simply what Democrats and Liberals do. You can take that to the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not that Shadow has not been paying attention.  He is uttering distortions and lies like a Paul Begala or a James Carville.  That is simply what Democrats and Liberals do. You can take that to the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: clarice</title>
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		<dc:creator>clarice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Sullivan and Noah--the definitive refutation by Thiessen:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDE5YTNmZTg5OWUyOTlkMGUxOTk3OGMxY2I4ZDQ4YWQ=

Shadow, youhaven&#039;t been paying attention--no one was waterboarded 183 times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Sullivan and Noah&#8211;the definitive refutation by Thiessen:</p>
<p><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDE5YTNmZTg5OWUyOTlkMGUxOTk3OGMxY2I4ZDQ4YWQ=" rel="nofollow">http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDE5YTNmZTg5OWUyOTlkMGUxOTk3OGMxY2I4ZDQ4YWQ=</a></p>
<p>Shadow, youhaven&#8217;t been paying attention&#8211;no one was waterboarded 183 times.</p>
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		<title>By: RightwingHippyChick</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/playing-partisan-politics-with-terrorists-and-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-248744</link>
		<dc:creator>RightwingHippyChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What goes round comes round.  No doubt 0bama will find out in 8 year&#039;s time that the next president coming in might well continue his newfangled tradition of persecuting the opposition they displaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What goes round comes round.  No doubt 0bama will find out in 8 year&#8217;s time that the next president coming in might well continue his newfangled tradition of persecuting the opposition they displaced.</p>
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		<title>By: supercars</title>
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		<dc:creator>supercars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrorism must be avoided what ever it takes. i hate terrorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrorism must be avoided what ever it takes. i hate terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: jaybob</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaybob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit when I read the interrogations memos that were declassified I don’t see how one could defined the methods approved as torture. Real wimpy stuff to say the least, and an amazing code of restraint on the part of the interrogators.  If those methods are torture, then I am being tortured everyday by the thought of Obama’s stimulus bill bankrupting our economy or raising taxes to pay for it. So let me get this straight the new definition of torture is being uncomfortable and not getting any sleep? I was also disappointed in the water boarding part. I always thought that to do that right you tied the subject to a chair which was mounted on the end of a long board like a teeter-totter. Then they dunked the subject into the river or a pool.  This stuff is nothing compared to the Spanish Inquisitions of old. Now that’s real torture. If you knew that the prisoner had knowledge of where an attack could take place on American soil. And you also knew that such an attack could kill hundreds if not thousands innocent civilians and maybe even your own loved ones. I fear I wouldn’t have the restraint the interrogators had. I think this is a losing battle for the Democrats especially when Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed signed off on it. They all supported it before it became unpopular through media’s misrepresentation of the interrogators method by calling it torture. But through all this I think the awesome news is that because of Obama’s idiotic stupidity in releasing the memos this may actually help vindicate Bush in the long run.  People have suffered more going to public schools. Everyone needs to read the memos that were released for a good laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit when I read the interrogations memos that were declassified I don’t see how one could defined the methods approved as torture. Real wimpy stuff to say the least, and an amazing code of restraint on the part of the interrogators.  If those methods are torture, then I am being tortured everyday by the thought of Obama’s stimulus bill bankrupting our economy or raising taxes to pay for it. So let me get this straight the new definition of torture is being uncomfortable and not getting any sleep? I was also disappointed in the water boarding part. I always thought that to do that right you tied the subject to a chair which was mounted on the end of a long board like a teeter-totter. Then they dunked the subject into the river or a pool.  This stuff is nothing compared to the Spanish Inquisitions of old. Now that’s real torture. If you knew that the prisoner had knowledge of where an attack could take place on American soil. And you also knew that such an attack could kill hundreds if not thousands innocent civilians and maybe even your own loved ones. I fear I wouldn’t have the restraint the interrogators had. I think this is a losing battle for the Democrats especially when Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed signed off on it. They all supported it before it became unpopular through media’s misrepresentation of the interrogators method by calling it torture. But through all this I think the awesome news is that because of Obama’s idiotic stupidity in releasing the memos this may actually help vindicate Bush in the long run.  People have suffered more going to public schools. Everyone needs to read the memos that were released for a good laugh.</p>
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