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		<title>By: deguello</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/poor-poor-put-upon-moderates/comment-page-3/#comment-261729</link>
		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the nice things about being an Atheist anti lib.,is that when fighting them,one can dispense with the usual moral,christian-derived scruples.This permits a totally uninhibited,and therefore effective final response,to the sanitation problem that is liberalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the nice things about being an Atheist anti lib.,is that when fighting them,one can dispense with the usual moral,christian-derived scruples.This permits a totally uninhibited,and therefore effective final response,to the sanitation problem that is liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: steveg</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 23:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#89 Scott...I am hoping there are millions of Americans out there, with the same sentiments as you expressed.   We are in a &quot;Culture War&quot; that is nearing a breaking-point.  

I am not the least bit religious, but I would take the side of a mainstream christian any day over the degenerates on the left, and have no doubt, if the entire country were to choose sides, we would have a much larger team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#89 Scott&#8230;I am hoping there are millions of Americans out there, with the same sentiments as you expressed.   We are in a &#8220;Culture War&#8221; that is nearing a breaking-point.  </p>
<p>I am not the least bit religious, but I would take the side of a mainstream christian any day over the degenerates on the left, and have no doubt, if the entire country were to choose sides, we would have a much larger team.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennwriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Tolerance, Pournelle said that Christians will let you be whatever religion you want, but they will prosyletize. Islamists will also allow you to be what religion you want, but you&#039;re a second class citizen, a dhimmi (and that has serious consequences). Only Atheists are so intolerant as to demand everyone be like them.

As to G. Alston&#039;s point about technology, its true, to an extent. However the Hutus managed pretty well with Iron Age tech, machetes, and they did in more in a lot shorter time than the Spanish Inquisition.

Besides, Spanish...200,000-400,000....Communists....100-200 million. Thats not all tech and more targets. Atheism opens the doors to hell wider than even the Inquisition. 

The Four Axes theory is a clever bit, a neat model designed to overexzaggerate the importance of Libertarians, and while it has its uses, its not gospel. The point is thus: If by your definition Statism includes increased military, then Statism should perhaps be tossed as a useless term. Statism is a derogatory term for inappropriate state power. Only an anarcho-capitalist or a pacifist or a left wing moonbat should use it to describe Reagan&#039;s efforts, I think.

And good to talk to you, Colonel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Tolerance, Pournelle said that Christians will let you be whatever religion you want, but they will prosyletize. Islamists will also allow you to be what religion you want, but you&#8217;re a second class citizen, a dhimmi (and that has serious consequences). Only Atheists are so intolerant as to demand everyone be like them.</p>
<p>As to G. Alston&#8217;s point about technology, its true, to an extent. However the Hutus managed pretty well with Iron Age tech, machetes, and they did in more in a lot shorter time than the Spanish Inquisition.</p>
<p>Besides, Spanish&#8230;200,000-400,000&#8230;.Communists&#8230;.100-200 million. Thats not all tech and more targets. Atheism opens the doors to hell wider than even the Inquisition. </p>
<p>The Four Axes theory is a clever bit, a neat model designed to overexzaggerate the importance of Libertarians, and while it has its uses, its not gospel. The point is thus: If by your definition Statism includes increased military, then Statism should perhaps be tossed as a useless term. Statism is a derogatory term for inappropriate state power. Only an anarcho-capitalist or a pacifist or a left wing moonbat should use it to describe Reagan&#8217;s efforts, I think.</p>
<p>And good to talk to you, Colonel.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: G Alston
RE: Well....

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Can’t face the observation? Call the observer silly names. Your MO, simplified. Pathetic, really.&lt;/i&gt; -- G Alston&lt;/blockquote&gt;

....since you put it THAT way....

....you&#039;ve only reinforced the observation.

In military parlance, we refer to your reaction as &#039;secondary detonations&#039;. It&#039;s the indication of what we call a &#039;catastrophic kill&#039;.

Thanks.....

Chuck(le)
[You know you&#039;ve hit the target when you see all the &#039;fireworks&#039; going off afterwards.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: G Alston<br />
RE: Well&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Can’t face the observation? Call the observer silly names. Your MO, simplified. Pathetic, really.</i> &#8212; G Alston</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;.since you put it THAT way&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.you&#8217;ve only reinforced the observation.</p>
<p>In military parlance, we refer to your reaction as &#8217;secondary detonations&#8217;. It&#8217;s the indication of what we call a &#8216;catastrophic kill&#8217;.</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230;..</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
[You know you've hit the target when you see all the 'fireworks' going off afterwards.]</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article, but old hat. The attempted move to the center by the Republican party failed because the middle is fickle. They swung to the more charismatic Barack Obama, even though his policies and opinions were inconsistent with themselves and moved with the polls.

Well America got the popular choice, but not necessarily the competent part.

The Republicans should court the Constitutional party, the Libertarians and try to regain the Ron Paul groups. 

The fuel being to tossed into the fire by the Democrats ought to rally every moderate, Conservative, and even the non-radical liberals. Between the current shenanigans by Pellosi, Reed, Obama, the liberal attacking media, and the One Party government, and their blatant attacks on individual and state rights there really should be a mass run away from the democrats:
    1. Attacks on Miss California for her well voiced position on marriage by the liberal attack squads.
    2. The Democrats desire to shut down free speech on radio and the internet( including conservative sites like these).
    3. The Spending, spending, spending, etc.....
    4. The proposal to give Washington DC representatives in Congress, which is a blatant violation of the constitution&#039;s guarantees on state rights.
    5. Stimulus package controls on states spending which is also a violation of state rights.
    6. The blatant takeovers of the auto industry, banks, and soon to be healthcare.

etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article, but old hat. The attempted move to the center by the Republican party failed because the middle is fickle. They swung to the more charismatic Barack Obama, even though his policies and opinions were inconsistent with themselves and moved with the polls.</p>
<p>Well America got the popular choice, but not necessarily the competent part.</p>
<p>The Republicans should court the Constitutional party, the Libertarians and try to regain the Ron Paul groups. </p>
<p>The fuel being to tossed into the fire by the Democrats ought to rally every moderate, Conservative, and even the non-radical liberals. Between the current shenanigans by Pellosi, Reed, Obama, the liberal attacking media, and the One Party government, and their blatant attacks on individual and state rights there really should be a mass run away from the democrats:<br />
    1. Attacks on Miss California for her well voiced position on marriage by the liberal attack squads.<br />
    2. The Democrats desire to shut down free speech on radio and the internet( including conservative sites like these).<br />
    3. The Spending, spending, spending, etc&#8230;..<br />
    4. The proposal to give Washington DC representatives in Congress, which is a blatant violation of the constitution&#8217;s guarantees on state rights.<br />
    5. Stimulus package controls on states spending which is also a violation of state rights.<br />
    6. The blatant takeovers of the auto industry, banks, and soon to be healthcare.</p>
<p>etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://strongerthandeathhq.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/saying-the-n-word-is-worse-then-911/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;We have an obligation to slam these people for their evil intent, their bloated arrogance, and their bigotry.Trying to remain above the fray has only kept us out of it!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://strongerthandeathhq.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/saying-the-n-word-is-worse-then-911/" rel="nofollow">We have an obligation to slam these people for their evil intent, their bloated arrogance, and their bigotry.Trying to remain above the fray has only kept us out of it!</a></p>
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		<title>By: G Alston</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Alston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#97 Pelto -- &lt;i&gt;And you just proved it as being rather accurate.&lt;/i&gt;

Rubbish. Rather, you ignore the observation about militant Ayatollahs, thus proving your intellectual cowardice.

Can&#039;t face the observation? Call the observer silly names. Your MO, simplified. Pathetic, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#97 Pelto &#8212; <i>And you just proved it as being rather accurate.</i></p>
<p>Rubbish. Rather, you ignore the observation about militant Ayatollahs, thus proving your intellectual cowardice.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t face the observation? Call the observer silly names. Your MO, simplified. Pathetic, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: G Alston
RE: [OT] We&#039;re Trying....

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;You’re a hoot.&lt;/i&gt; -- G Alston&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...VERY &#039;trying&#039;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;While I realize that to you this is the worst possible insult one can hurl at a human being, in the modern world this is akin to accusing me of having a preference for red jellybeans.&lt;/i&gt; -- G Alson&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That wasn&#039;t an &#039;insult&#039;. It was an observation, as you later recognize. And you just proved it as being rather accurate.

Thanks for playing....

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. It&#039;s not my place to &#039;judge&#039; you. It&#039;s His.....

But it is my place to recognize you for what you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: G Alston<br />
RE: [OT] We&#8217;re Trying&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>You’re a hoot.</i> &#8212; G Alston</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;VERY &#8216;trying&#8217;.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>While I realize that to you this is the worst possible insult one can hurl at a human being, in the modern world this is akin to accusing me of having a preference for red jellybeans.</i> &#8212; G Alson</p></blockquote>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t an &#8216;insult&#8217;. It was an observation, as you later recognize. And you just proved it as being rather accurate.</p>
<p>Thanks for playing&#8230;.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
P.S. It&#8217;s not my place to &#8216;judge&#8217; you. It&#8217;s His&#8230;..</p>
<p>But it is my place to recognize you for what you are.</p>
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		<title>By: G Alston</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Alston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#95 -- &lt;i&gt;An increased military is not Statism.&lt;/i&gt;

Of course it is. Yeah, I know, all of you are a great deal smarter than Pournelle. Here he is again. Read and weep.

http://www.baen.com/chapters/axes.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#95 &#8212; <i>An increased military is not Statism.</i></p>
<p>Of course it is. Yeah, I know, all of you are a great deal smarter than Pournelle. Here he is again. Read and weep.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baen.com/chapters/axes.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.baen.com/chapters/axes.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G Alston, there is no way to apply Statism correctly; it always leads to disaster. Your Ronald Reagan example is flawed since he shrunk government, but increased the military to proportional needs against our enemies such as the Soviet Union &amp; Iran at the time. 

An increased military is not Statism. Statism is when the Federal Government gets too involved in the daily lives of the American citizens; for example, Barack Obama had a hand in firing private companies CEO&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G Alston, there is no way to apply Statism correctly; it always leads to disaster. Your Ronald Reagan example is flawed since he shrunk government, but increased the military to proportional needs against our enemies such as the Soviet Union &amp; Iran at the time. </p>
<p>An increased military is not Statism. Statism is when the Federal Government gets too involved in the daily lives of the American citizens; for example, Barack Obama had a hand in firing private companies CEO&#8217;s.</p>
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