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Rejecting Obama — For the Right Reasons
Pundits insult our intelligence when they claim that Obama's struggles are due to his race.
To many members of the mainstream media, the choice in the upcoming election is black or white — literally. The merits of Senator John McCain or Senator Barack Obama are immaterial in juxtaposition with the color of their respective skins. The mental meanderings of Jacob Weisberg, editor of Slate.com, led him to interpret a future decision on the part of voters as being contingent on whether or not they harbor racist inclinations. Indeed, the specific message of Weisberg’s article, “If Obama Loses: Racism Is the Only Reason McCain Might Beat Him,” is anything but subtle:
But let’s be honest: If you break the numbers down, the reason Obama isn’t ahead right now is that he trails badly among one group, older white voters. He does so for a simple reason: the color of his skin. If Obama loses, our children will grow up thinking of equal opportunity as a myth. His defeat would say that when handed a perfect opportunity to put the worst part of our history behind us, we chose not to. In this event, the world’s judgment will be severe and inescapable: The United States had its day but, in the end, couldn’t put its own self-interest ahead of its crazy irrationality over race.
John Heilemann of New York Magazine seconded his view: “Call me crazy, but isn’t it possible, just possible, that Obama’s lead is being inhibited by the fact that he is, you know, black?” Both of these journalistic ventures into the world of conspiracy theory illustrate the fashion by which leftist advocacy now masquerades as political insight in our public square. The opinions of these pundits are also indicative of the political left’s stand on “diversity” — they do not believe in it. One either agrees with their views and their politicians or one is judged to be debilitated by a variety of anti-intellectual “isms.”
With Weisberg, the ism du jour is racism, but his column is logically fallacious.
If Obama loses it will prove merely that blacks are not privileged, as no person deserves to be president based on their skin pigmentation. Equal opportunity is a reality at this time, which is why a fellow who first entered the Senate in January 2005 is free to run for the nation’s highest office after just two years of work. Furthermore, the worst of our country’s history is behind us. Slavery met its end over a century ago, segregation was outlawed in the sixties, and the Japanese were freed from internment in 1945. The only “crazy irrationality” stems from those leftists who view their homeland in the worst possible light and disparage America whenever possible. Few Republican politicians question their patriotism, which, in my mind, is a missed opportunity.
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1. Jeff:I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat but a true Independent who believes in facts and really believes in learning the lessons of our history.
So here is a simple fact for America -
1) During Ronald Reagan’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1981-1989, we were at our economic best in a quarter of a century. We made the right choice in these 8 years as a country.
2) During George H. W. Bush Sr.’s Presidency of 1 term, between 1989-1993, we were at our economic worst in a quarter of a century. We made a huge mistake as a country but corrected it by keeping him in office for only 1 term.
3) During Bill Clinton’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1993-2001, we were again at our economic best in a quarter of a century, even better than Reagan’s era. We made the right choice again in these 8 years as a country, despite his personal scandals.
4) Now, during George W. Bush Jr.’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 2001-this coming January 20, 2009; we have been at our economic worst in a quarter of a century, even worst than Bush Sr.’s era. We really made a huge mistake as a country on this one by not realizing that the apple really doesn’t fall very far from the tree. Yet we chose this apple again the second time around.
Now, really let this simple fact sink in America and take your time to think carefully this time around about how you want the direction of this country to go.
We made history with Reagan. We then made a mistake with Bush Sr. but corrected history by allowing him to only serve 1 term. We then made history again with Clinton, despite his personal scandals. Now, we have made 2 mistakes with Bush Jr. by allowing him to serve not once, but twice. So my last question to America is, guess which candidate shares the interests of both, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.? I will let America answer this one. We are much, much smarter as a country to want to make history rather than make mistakes and to suffer yet again from our own mistakes by not using objectivity as our first and foremost agenda.
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:53 am 2. Teplost:The Democratic Party painted itself into a corner in the 60’s when it espoused the politics of permanent victimization . If Obama loses, it will be because the Democratic “base” votes for McCain. Insulting that base will serve only to alienate them further. No one can afford to do that any more.
As an independent, I frequently vote for African-American Republican (yes, there are some) and third-party candidates. These candidates rarely receive support from African-American voters. Is it only racism if the candidate is a Democrat and does this make Black voters who reject such candidates racist?
I’m not sure who will win this election, but I do enjoy watching the left descend into blathering idiocy.
Sep 9, 2008 - 3:07 am 3. Terry Gain:Obama advocated conceding Iraq to al Qaeda and Iran. He claimed the Surge would make thing worse and and he denied the effectiveness of the Surge until it was no longer deniable.
It is now clear that the mission will be completed unless Obama is elected president. Not understanding the disastrous consequences of not completing the mission is by itself enough to make him unfit.
Sep 9, 2008 - 3:10 am 4. C. Siegel:If Obama loses, it will be because he is a managerially inexperienced leftist from the priviledged class.
Sep 9, 2008 - 3:19 am 5. Lisa:If Obama loses it will be because he spent the last year making women feel like we aren’t worthy in his eyes.
Sep 9, 2008 - 3:54 am 6. Bob:If BHO wins the Presidency, it will be because of his race; specifically, although white voters are split between the two candidates, 90+% of black voters are choosing him. It also doesn’t hurt him to have nearly as great a percentage of the MSM in his corner, spending more time on Gov. Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy than on investigating Sen. O’s “achievements” as a community organizer or his history of party-line Chicago machine politics when in the Illinois Senate. This is a guy who can’t concede he was wrong about the surge and wants to raise taxes simply to “get” the rich, even though lower tax rates have brought in greater revenues.
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:02 am 7. Ed Wallis:Mr. Chapin writes, “Pundits insult our intelligence when they claim that Obama’s struggles are due to his race.”
Yet the central “pundit” who seems to raise this strawman is OBAMA himself.
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On another note to readers here, based on many of his other posts here, “Jeff” is NO “independent” and is more likely just another O’bot. His post#1 in this thread has been posted repeatedly elsewhere.
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:18 am 8. Chris in Toronto:Granted what I’m about to say is superficial, but, the way he tilts his head when he speaks really bugs me… I never trust anyone with that affectation.
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:31 am 9. SAF:Jeff:
I and I think historians will eventually disagree about your Clinton retrospective. Bush the first lost because of Ross Perot. Clinton was the beneficiary of the fear of the US the world had at the time because of Desert Storm. This provided a backdrop of peace for many years. As to the economy Clinton was not responsible for the internet boom, the PC boom, the cell phone boom or the Y2K phenomena that propelled the economy and the stock market to dizzying heights. Under his watch he spent more money going after the Microsoft monopoly than he did going after Bin Laden.
Bush the second inherited a mess. Stock market crash and Bin Laden. Certainly the way he fought in Iraq in the beginning was a disaster. But Greenspan’s response to 911 laid the foundation for the housing bubble and the ensuing slump.
I personally would be happy to vote for a black man for president. It would be great for the country. Obama is just way to left for me. Since I will not sit out the election I will vote for McCain.
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:31 am 10. Ed Wallis:I consider the Mainstream…err…I mean THE FLATLINE MEDIA to be “insulting our intelligence” by not going into Obama’s ties with Ayers (see: Annenberg Files), Rezko and other parts of the Chicago “machine” as they have with their sudden Alaska obsession.
They still have two more months to retrieve a shred of respectability, but I’m not holding my breath….
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:46 am 11. Jarhead:Jeff, you haven’t the slightest idea what you are talking about. You may not believe it, but the economy moves is cycles, and the President has relatively little to do with it.
We had a recession while Bush Sr. was President because we were due for one, and the federal government foolishly decided to cover the massive losses of the Savings and Loans failure with our tax-dollars, and Bush caved in to George Mitchell and signed a tax increase.
After the recession W. Bush inherited from Clinton and economic shock of 911 passed, we have had strong growth for most of his presidency. There was a slow-down earlier this year but no recession and the U.S. economy remains far stronger than most of the world’s.
I worry that our uncompetitive corporate tax rates and over-regulation of markets will put our economy in a bad position long-term. I doubt very much that a liberal Democrat is going to fix those problems.
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:57 am 12. 888:Jeff,it’s interesting how you always seem to leave out the darling of the Democratic party – Jimmy Carter. I don’t care what anyone says, but GW is light years ahead in terms of accomplishments, courage, class and decency than that bungling idiot and loser, Carter.
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:03 am 13. SAF:Dear 888:
You owe “bungling idiot” an apology for insulting the term by comparing it to Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter was a genius. He was the first human being to convince my life long democratic parents to vote for a republican, Ronald Reagan.
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:18 am 14. Tom H:If we are talking race, how about this -Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya, his father’s family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro). From….and for more….go to…..
http://www.arcadeathome.com/n ewsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:38 am 15. Matt, Esq.:Ironic that the first black nominee for president is so woefully unqualified for the nation’s top office that its impossible to determine if its racism or common sense which will beat Obama in November. My suggestion is, if you’re bound and determined to have the first black president, how bout nominating someone, you know, qualified ?
Problem is, look at the number of qualified black candidates in the democratic party- race hustlers, community organizers, machine candidates- Obama was as “clean” a black man as they could dig up.
Give me a black man or woman with experience and qualifications and I think most of America would pull the lever for that candidate.
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:38 am 16. Tom H:and I believe that 12% is the threshold for claiming one minority status over another…..?
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:39 am 17. Home-For-Sale Dave:The hand-wringing, bed-wetting leftist journalists are bringing back the era of vapors and fainting couches.
Oh, my gosh!!! You’re not voting for obama? You’re…you’re a racist cad.
Can the sob sisters be near to charging over the leftist horizon, swinging their purses to whack us over the heads?
Buy a box of Depends and send it to your favorite scribbler at the New York Times.
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:40 am 18. jvon:I disagree with one of your arguments. The fact that he’s black is NOT the reason that Obama is entitled to run for President.
The fact that he’s black is the reason we are not allowed to point out the fact that he isn’t qualified without being accused of racism, though.
I’ll be perfectly happy to vote for a qualified black candidate when one runs. I suspect he’ll be a Republican.
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:44 am 19. gldnldy:Another outstanding article, and I agree with the author that Obama’s race is a big (if not, the biggest) advantage he has going for him, given all his drawbacks — i.e., past association with questionable/unsavory characters; missing, hidden, exaggerated or distorted personal history; being on the extreme left of his party on practically every issue; his inexperience; his ever constant and unabashed flip-flopping throughout the primaries and especially lately as he’s trying to move to the center to get the white and moderate vote; and, his arrogance, stubbornness and inability to accept reality (e.g., the success of the surge) or to admit he was wrong (again, e.g., the success of the surge).
Blacks in this country are going to come out in droves to vote for him, and sadly, it’s not always because they believe in, or agree with, his vision for American nor his ultra-liberal positions. They will vote for him simply because he’s black and they’re proud that a black man has made it this far. Those are not the right reasons to pick America’s next Commander-In-Chief. Someone voting for a candidate simply because of the candidate’s race is a racist — plain and simple. But if Obama loses the election, all hell will break loose. The blacks and the liberals will protest and cry foul like there’s no tomorrow. They always seem to blame conservatives and Republicans for anything that doesn’t go their way, instead of looking at their candidate and accepting that maybe there’s something mighty wrong with the guy.
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:55 am 20. hp:i’ll play. i’ll play.
“if obama loses” it will be because people came to realize how much those near and dear in his confidence, those who stand to gain high position by default of their association, have this teeny tiny little prob with free speech.
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:57 am 21. Robin Roberts:I am astounded that people actually think the President can control the economy. If he tries too hard, companies move overseas; if you try to stop them, they sell out. If you don’t get it by now, I doubt you ever will. Companies are not in business to break even; their job is to make money. If the government ever tries to control the economy, the economy will stop because profits will disappear. Look what happened to New York.
Sep 9, 2008 - 6:17 am 22. AJ:This election further proves how out of touch, racist and naive/emotional libs are. If you are not a collegian, you have no business being so immature to support this Empty Suit.
If, or more likely WHEN, The One loses, how many cities will have riots, what states will the Little Children protest?
They are pathetic. They really are. I know too many of them.
Sep 9, 2008 - 6:20 am 23. The Wizard:I think if Obama loses, it is because he is THE MOST UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE in the history of our country to run for President. I don’t care if he is pink with purple stripes!!!!! He is an empty suit, no experience and a charlatan. Beyond that, Obama continues to use RACE as the issue. Does he not think it odd, that over 90% of African Americans are voting for him ONLY BECAUSE HE IS BLACK???? How racist is that? It is about experience, respect, judgment, character, integrity. Unfortuately for Mr. Obama, he is totally devoid in all categories.
Sep 9, 2008 - 6:33 am 24. “Mental Meanderings” « Gunservatively!:[...] 9, 2008 by gunservatively Benard Chapin discusses the “racism card” being played by some on the left including Jacob Weisberg of [...]
Sep 9, 2008 - 6:40 am 25. Bonnie_:If Obama loses… okay, when Obama loses, we will have fulfilled the great Martin Luther King, Jr.’s dream.
We will have judged a man, not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.
Sep 9, 2008 - 6:48 am 26. DD:As far as I can see, the only reason Obama is the Democratic nominee to begin with is because he is black. The dems should be way ahead at this point. If the nominee was Hilary, they probably would be. That is not racism or any other ‘ism’. It is a reflection of Obama’s limitations as a candidate.
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:14 am 27. BMoon:Well. I see how everyone here is getting in touch with their inner Klansman. Or are you all just simultaneously channelling David Duke? In another life maybe you were Nathan Bedford Forrest? Hello? Denial much?
Maybe the right-on progressive press is really right in not having to prove this point in any cogent, rational way because it is something that simply transcends simple, trivial facts and figures. The silly accusations of lack of experience, lack of depth, lack of substance, supposedly corrupted, or extremist, or fascist friends and associates, un-American beliefs and attitudes, weakness of character, judgement, and integrity, or the most absurd one of all – that Obama has used race and so-called “white liberal guilt” to achieve the fantastic heights he now heroically scales upon – all these are defense mechanisms and facades to hide the ugly monster of your racist attitudes. Every white American is a racist, even the liberal ones. So what if it seems a contrived, unproven, irrational accusation? It doesn’t need to be proven. You don’t even have to think about it. In your hearts you know it’s true. Everyone who says it is not true is only proving more so that it is. Let your evil, ugly, racist, hating heart be your guide. Vote for Obama.
Oh, and what about those who say they’d vote for a Condi Rice, a Colin Powell or any other conservative or moderate black? What a stinkin’ joke! Those aren’t true blacks. Hello? Nabisco calling? Can you spell OREO COOKIE?
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:15 am 28. RE:Well put, Bonnie.
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:16 am 29. schnargley:Well. I see how everyone here is getting in touch with their inner Klansman. Or are you all just simultaneously channelling David Duke? In another life maybe you were Nathan Bedford Forrest? Hello? Denial much?
Maybe the right-on progressive press is really right in not having to prove this point in any cogent, rational way because it is something that simply transcends simple, trivial facts and figures. The silly accusations of lack of experience, lack of depth, lack of substance, supposedly corrupted, or extremist, or fascist friends and associates, un-American beliefs and attitudes, weakness of character, judgement, and integrity, or the most absurd one of all – that Obama has used race and so-called “white liberal guilt” to achieve the fantastic heights he now heroically scales upon – all these are defense mechanisms and facades to hide the ugly monster of your racist attitudes. Every white American is a racist, even the liberal ones. So what if it seems a contrived, unproven, irrational accusation? It doesn’t need to be proven. You don’t even have to think about it. In your hearts you know it’s true. Everyone who says it is not true is only proving more so that it is. Let your evil, ugly, racist, hating heart be your guide. Vote for Obama.
Oh, and what about those who say they’d vote for a Condi Rice, a Colin Powell or any other conservative or moderate black? What a stinkin’ joke! Those aren’t true blacks. True balcks always vote Democrat. Hello? Nabisco calling? Can you spell OREO COOKIE?
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:18 am 30. Saltherring:Does anyone know if Obama carried his own state of Illinois in that state’s presidential primary? Hopefully the citizens of Illinois will complete the sweep and send him back to “community organizing” in 2012.
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:26 am 31. chicago:Jeff:
I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat but a true Independent who believes in facts and really believes in learning the lessons of our history.
after that statement, everyone simply stopped reading. you’re hardly an independent, nor do you believe in facts. the mere fact that you support Obama while he clearly is simply a political hack that embraced corruption to get ahead shows that you have no handle of the facts.
nuff said. you can say anything you want but the facts are clear, Obama rose in political prominence by embracing corruption.
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:31 am 32. Susan:Well said Bonnie. And wasn’t MLK a republican?
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:33 am 33. 888:Some of you young ones might not know this antiquated phrase, but I’ll say it anyway to Bonnie, “Right on!” Well said.
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:38 am 34. dvd:the 90% or better black vote is the only news worth printing when it comes to race. Whites already proved thier willingness to cross racial lines for obama. Blacks are functioing in the tribal world view.
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:43 am 35. Jeff Weimer:The best reason for anyone to vote for obama, is race affiliation…..the data show this is true. otherwise youd have more than a handful of blacks breaking with the race only vote.
A few other factors to contemplate are his narcissism, elitism, notorious thin skin, and the vicious way his campaign disembowels all who dare to deconstruct their paladin’s biography. When political expediency calls, Obama will route his Greyhound over anyone — including his own grandmother.
That’s telling – and noticeable in nearly everything he and his campaign does. It shows he has no integrity and no loyalty, except overwhelmingly to the dictates of his party. Joe Biden in no different, with his long-standing and repeated plagiarism, “I’m smarter than you” elitism, and frankly, backstabbing when it comes to the other party. These two do not deserve and administration on that alone. And with all that, it’s doubtful he would be able to accomplish much legislation – even with a freindly Congress. They’ll roll over him.
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:58 am 36. Daria:Chris in Toronto:
Granted what I’m about to say is superficial, but, the way he tilts his head when he speaks really bugs me… I never trust anyone with that affectation.
Chris, I agree! I would only add that when he casts his eyes slightly downward and to the side while tilting his head, it annoys me even more! That so-called “post-modern” tripe is so irritating. But he has to keep spinning his web of lies to portray his views as mainstream and I suppose this posturing buys him some time to work out his response. Such constructs aren’t necessary when a person has true convictions and is not afraid to state them, regardless of the potential political fall-out.
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:00 am 37. ChicagoJim:I cannot support someone who is way underqualified to be leader of the free world. Would you let your child, or yourself for that matter, be taught in school by someone whom had trained for 164 days to become a teacher? This guy may have been a senator from Illinois for 3 years, but spent the last 2 1/2 running for president. This man voted present for many important pieces of legislation, I was unaware that present was even a vote. I am from Illinois and very ashamed that we have perhaps 2 of the most ignorant senators, Obama-mama and Dick “the Turbin” Durbin, I understand that they both play very well on al Jazerra. I hang my head in shame……….
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:04 am 38. chicago:BMoon:
Oh, and what about those who say they’d vote for a Condi Rice, a Colin Powell or any other conservative or moderate black? What a stinkin’ joke! Those aren’t true blacks. Hello? Nabisco calling? Can you spell OREO COOKIE?
who’s being racist now? just because their republicans they deserved to be called “Oreo Cookie?”
you clearly represent the democrat’s ideology of identity politics.
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:04 am 39. cfbleachers:If the leftist propaganda machine wanted to build a candidate, it is an interesting thought exercise as to how they might go about doing so.
We must look at the things they most treasure:
1) Elite pedigree with ties to East Coast academia
2) Strong populist instincts, tilting toward Euro-Socialism
3) Strong anti-military, anti-national defense, pro “find root causes”
4) Strong anti-business, anti-corporate America, pro environmentalism
5) Strong identification by and with “victim” groups, the more identified with a suspect class the better EXCEPT for age discrimination
6) Media savvy, …MUST be able to give the deadwood media the ability to utilize the “home field advantage”. They WILL show him or her in the most favorable light possible, while cheating, skimming, and hiding any flaws from the public…and concurrently planting EVERY negative they can on the opponent. (then, both the candidate and the fraudulent deadwood media members will simultaneously deny the conspiracy and open, naked partisanship advantage)
7) Must be willing to join in the conspiracy to stereotype “salt of the earth” Americans as:
a) stupid
b) crass
c) racist
d) greedy
e) militaristic
f) jingoistic
g) religious fanatics
h) sexist
i) heartless
j) bitter
The candidate and his minions and lackeys in the deadwood media then proceed to concurrently “peer pressure” weaker critical thinkers and softer minds into not wanting to associate with the “racist hicks who cling to guns and religion and wear flag pins which represent the “wrong” kind of patriotism.
Governor Palin has had more depth and breadth of “vetting” in less than two weeks of running for national office by the deadwood media…than Sen. Obama has had in over two years.
One needs no more proof of the conspiracy and how the deadwood media intends to win an election for a candidate yet again. And THAT…is why…more than any other reason…(although not the only reason), that Sen. Obama should lose.
When the media intentionally defrauds the public and rapes the information stream on behalf of ONE party, and ONE candidate…and the party and the candidate participate as co-conspirators…then they should lose ….EVERY time. Our need to get facts and information honestly trumps every other issue…because we cannot decide properly if we are being fed propaganda that distorts the truth and champions a fraud.
Once we can trust the honesty of the presentation of facts, we can go back to voting on the merits. But we are deprived of the merits by fraud and deliberate dissembling…then the punishment is the loss of our vote for the ones to conspire to benefit.
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:10 am 40. Knight:One of the most glaring inconsistencies of the left is they hold disdain for the same people they are supposedly trying to help. They try to get away with essentially calling most of America idiots while, at the same time, espouse ideas of universal equality. This is an attitude which precedes them, deafening any message that says the contrary.
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:34 am 41. Laura:Speaking as a Canadian who has been watching this election campaign very closely over the past year, it seems to me that race plays an overly-important part of this presidency. Who gives a darn what color the candidate’s skin is? To me, it’s the candidates stand on the issues facing their nation and the world, their experience and character that matters above all. Hands down, McCain soars above Obama in every regard.
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:35 am 42. Olivia:Obama will lose because him and his sycophants overreached. The media has bent over backwards to kiss his ass. The far-left wing of the party bent over backwards to help him win, even outright stealing delegates. He even said in 2006 that he shouldn’t run because he wasn’t prepared and didn’t have enough experience. Oh and let’s ignore Ayers, Wright, Auchi, Farrakhan and company. They are clearly not as relevant as Bristol Palin. Ugh. And BMoon the only person getting their inner Klansman on is you. Why are Condi Rice and Colin Powell not black enough again? Just accept that the empty suit will have to sit this one out.
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:37 am 43. Vivienne Avare:The blacks have served notice, we must not speak truth to Racial facts, unless it is favorable to them, just asked Geraldine, Bill etc,. Now they warn their will be rioting in the streets if their Savior Obama doesn’t win! Of course, they will say, it’s because he was black. Couldn’t possibly be because the Presidency is way over his head and he is a great celebrity but not qualified to be Commander in Chief! Whites can’t win, we have to vote for him or else! God help America and please deliver us from such ignorance and radical, biased thinking! Ex Democrat
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:41 am 44. Sandy Salt:BMoon,
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:46 am 45. Robin:Wow, talk about racists. I am sorry that the only qualification that Obama can point to is that of race. I wish that wasn’t the case, but he has failed to provide any other. I would like him to run on his record and point out all of his successes, but sadly he can not. You bash Colin Powell and Condi Rice for not being black because they have done more than the half-white Obama has ever done. Colin Powell was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in a time when there were very few black generals. We can point to his accomplishments and applaude him for doing what they said couldn’t be done. Would I vote for him, yes in a minute because he has done something and accomplished much. Can you say the same for the empty suit you are bashing us with? I will not vote for someone for the highest office in the land that has not accomplished anything other being born of a certain skin type.
You are judged by the company you keep. Looking at Obama and Biden you see Tony Rizo who is convicted in jail, William Ayers the bomber, Rev. Wright and Farakahn the racist. All of the connections to the communist party officials in Chicago.The Obama can’t speak with out a teleprompter which means someone else is telling him what to say. The Bible sums it up They are evil haters of God and despisers good.
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:01 am 46. Lisa:On the whole 90% of blacks always vote Dem idea…
when was the last time that 90% of blacks voted for a non-incumbent candidate for President in the Democratic primary?
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:08 am 47. Dave II:BOB- way up top….you got it exactly right!
If Obama wins it WILL be BECAUSE of his race!
90% of blacks are voting for Obama, some simply BECAUSE he is black…that’s not racist?
White/liberals and their unresolved guilt are voting BECAUSE he is black.
That’s not racist???
Many other Americans think we need to vote for Obama just to show the world we CAN elect a black man.
That’s not racist???
Funny how the left is using this arguement that can be turned right back on them…and the REAL reason for not voting for Obama is ignored or not even considered “worthy” because…gosh, it COULDN’T be his background, associates, lack of experience, bankrupt policies, or judgement!!
I agree with those here who recognize a black man with CHARACTER and JUDGEMENT will get my vote someday… and more than likely it WILL come from the Republican party…
But not before we elect the first WOMAN VP and then woman President!
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:14 am 48. Frank Logan:A long but detailed history of Obama’s connection to not only the infamous Weather Underground leader William Ayers, but also Tom Ayers (father) and John Ayers (Brother). This relationship apparently began before Obama went to law school and is more extensive than Obama admits. It certainly raises questions. Many people think that Obama decided to attend Harvard Law at the urging of Tom and Bill Ayers.
Note Obama served on Three boards with William Ayers’ connections including the less well known, anti-gun Joyce Foundation.
Shortcut to: http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-sent-obama.html
Obama Timeline
1975-1979 Attended Highschool – Hawaii Mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, an avowed communist http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=58&num=132576
1979-1981 Attended Occidental College-Calif.
1981-1983 attended Columbia Univ.-NYC Graduated 1983
1983-1985 Worked in NYC part of time for Group founded by Ralph Nader
1985-1988 Director of DCP- Group sponsored 1st by Woods Fund where he met met William Ayers
1988 Entered Harvard Law School
1989 Summer interned at Chicago Law firm(Sidley & Austin) where Michelle, his future wife, and Bernedine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers, worked. Firm had close ties to Tom Ayers, CEO of Commonwealth Edison, and William’s Father.
1990 President Harvard Law Review
1991 Graduated Harvard Law
1992 Directed Illinois Project Vote & co founded PUBLIC ALLIES
1993-1996 Worked as assoc. atty Davis, Miner (Worked summers 1996-2002) Judson Miner an associate of Tom Ayers
1993-2002 Board of Directors -Woods Fund (William Ayers also on board) Woods Fund made $40,000 grant to Arab American Action Network(AAAN) headed by Rashid Khalid in 2001, $35,000 in 2002
1994-2002 Board of Directors -The Joyce Foundation (anti gun grants)(William Ayers wrote two grants)
1995-2002 Board of Directors -The Chicago Annenberg Challenge with William Ayers who appointed Obama.
1996-2004 Illinois State Senate
2004-2008 US senate
One can draw the conclusion that Obama’s relationship with William Ayers is much more extensive than many think
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:22 am 49. RE:Obama’s close association with Ayers and Dohrn is enough in itself .
Black Liberation Theology is also enough in itself to disqualify him.
The world view values he reveals in his own books are also enough in themself to disqualify him.
The list goes on and on.
It’s pretty clear – If you hate America and all it stands for, Obama is your guy!
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:24 am 50. Anonymous:Gotta be honest, I think Bmoon’s post was a parody. ) Pretty sure Powell and Rice are not “oreos”. In fact, based on the definition of the word in a racial context, doesn’t Obama fit that bill ?
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:26 am 51. always right:I don’t think this (”Rejecting Obama for the right reasons”) will work.
Democrats have not learned the Americans’ rejection of Kerry in 04 for the true reasons.
They still think it SwiftBoat Vets.
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:28 am 52. AJ:“Does he not think it odd, that over 90% of African Americans are voting for him ONLY BECAUSE HE IS BLACK????”
Educators and the media have brainwashed our children to believe than ONLY whites can be racist, just as only men can be sexist, so this is immaterial.
I did notice, scrolling thru comments, that someone called us “inner Klansmen” or something for pointing out facts. So, alas, lacking rational/intelligent responses, the little babies will cry and call names. That’s one thing they do well. Get ready for a lot more of that. After all, their candidate is 100% perfect, so how could he lose?
Ask them sometime to name a single accomplishment, bi partisan or otherwise, by Obama. They cannot.
We can all rattle off McCain’s by the dozen.
Will the media EVER acknoweledge Ayres or revert back to Wright to expose the Empty Suit as a racist, partisan hack?
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:34 am 53. david levavi:My wife and I voted for David Dinkins, New York’s first Black mayor nearly two decades ago as did many other White folks. Why not, was our reasoning. Could Dave Dinkins be worse than Abe Beame or John Lindsay or Bob Wagner or any of the other hacks who ran our city in years past?
Alas, he was. Far worse. The streets were filthy. Junkies and winos were everywhere. The parks were scruffy, overgrown, criminal infested jungles. Petty crime was rampant. Citizens didn’t park a car on the street without leaving a sign informing criminals that the vehicle contained no radio or valuables and begging the thieves not to break in.
Then came Crown Heights. While Blacks rioted in the streets and Hasidic Jews cowered in their homes, our first Black mayor ordered the police to stand down. For three days, the Jewish community of Crown Heights was without police protection.
Unlike my sophisticated Jewish neighbors in Manhattan who continue to oppose the right to bear arms after such an event, I am leery of voting for an African American for any office and I’m not ashamed to say so. This is not to say I wouldn’t. But I would have to have a more compelling reason than that he or she is Black and aint it about time.
For most of my New York neighbors, Black and White alike, Obama’s skin color makes him a more rather than a less attractive candidate. My Jewish neighbors would vote for Adolf Hitler if he ran on the Democratic ticket. Not this New York Hebe.
In my book, community organizer translates to socialist agitator. ACORN, like Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition is a left wing, racialist organization whose main business is extortion. Installing his criminal buddy Rezco to manage rundown, rat and roach infested Chicago public housing speaks volumes about Obama’s contempt for the poor. Likewise his paltry, Jesse Jacksonlike personal charitable contributions. Twenty years in Reverend Wright’s church tells me far more about Obama’s racial and religious attitudes than all his pretty speeches. Deliberately concealing elements of his past suggests dishonesty and a lack of confidence in the judgment of the American voter.
Voting for Obama is buying a pig in a poke. Investing in promises and hot air. Lending money without collateral. Hiring a chief executive without a resume. Anyone who does it is a fool. I’m betting Americans at large, unlike my New York neighbors, are too smart to put the fate of the nation in the hands of a former social worker and poverty pimp.
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:42 am 54. Rachel Peepers:America is ready and willing to elect a black President of the United States, but it must be the right black one. The wrong one is Barack Obama, born and raised in corrupt Chicago politics.
Further, America is ready and willing to elect an African American woman President of the United States, but America won’t elect her solely on the basis of her race.
She must be highly intelligent. Share America’s desire to be free. Her ideals. And be willing to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
An example of the kind of person that stands out is Condoleezza Rice.
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:42 am 55. rvastar:Oh this is just TOO perfect!
Note that Bmoon’s 7:15am post and schnargley’s 7:18am post are exactly the same!
It’s confirmed people! Pure, irrefutable proof of Leftist propaganda operatives!!!
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:50 am 56. always right:I keep hearing Obama tossed the Trinity Church under the bus.
Which church is he attending right now? Anybody managed to investigate its track record? Is he using the excuse that he’s too busy running for POTUS to seek a new church?
What about Michelle O and the kids? Are they still Trinity church mmembers?
Where is some real journalistic investigation when you need them?
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:52 am 57. Robert Hurley:As someone who grew up in the 40s and 50’s, I feel as though I have stumbled into a timewarp of racist attitudes. Where have you pwople been living for the past 50 years? You don’t even know when you are being racists. I can understand someone not supporting Obama because he or she does not believe that his policies are best for our country, but to call him unqualified is to state more about your ignorance than his
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:54 am 58. DCGamer:Perhaps, Robert Hurley, you can list Obama’s achievements that make him qualified to be President? This ignorant racist just doesn’t see it.
Sep 9, 2008 - 10:43 am 59. Red Blooded American:Ed Wallis: The Annenberg Files have been released and the MSM has reported on the fact, in case anyone is actually interested in facts. Here’s the link: http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/dnc/1127918,ayers082608.article
Is it as big a story as you think? The information is there for anyone who is interested. I’m sure if a blogger puts together a coherent and well-written piece based on the released documents that actually shows some kind of smoking gun in Obama’s hand, or even some evidence that he might have seen the “gun” fired, then it will be a big story. As it is it seems that his role was serving as an essentially honorary member of the BOD and voicing his criticism of the direction the project was taking. Not much there in my opinion, but I’d be happy to read and consider excerpts from the documentation that has been released that may prove otherwise.
Sep 9, 2008 - 11:12 am 60. kaba:I’m truly glad that there is a secret ballot. Now my Oriental wife; numerous Hispanic in-laws; and black grandsons will never learn what a virulent racist I am.
Sep 9, 2008 - 11:30 am 61. WJO:rvastar: BMoon is MoonB-a-t. Its satire of Moonbats and very effective at that.
Sep 9, 2008 - 11:44 am 62. Real:By the way, which of his races are we talking of?
Sep 9, 2008 - 11:45 am 63. rvastar:…but to call him unqualified is to state more about your ignorance than his
…says the guy that then fails to list even one qualification for The One.
Let’s see, Rob…looking at Obambi’s resume, I see a guy that has 1) NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER, 2) NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER, and 3) NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER.
What is that you’re counting as “experience”? The two books that he wrote about how great he is? Maybe it’s his “community organizing” for ACORN? – better known as the Zombie Squad, seeing as how their major function appears to be “organizing” dead people to come out and vote for Democrats.
Or maybe it’s his “leadership” of the failed Chicago Annenberg Challenge foundation? – too bad he doesn’t want anyone to actually look into what he did when he was leading it.
Oh, I know! Maybe it’s his “present” votes in the Illinois legislature? Or the bang-up job he’s done in the US Senate, where his major activity has been running for the Presidency?
Don’t bother responding. From your pathetic post, everyone here knows that you’re just another Obamabot who’s just meeting his trolling quota for the day.
Enjoy watching The Big O (as in, “zero”) lose in November
Sep 9, 2008 - 11:52 am 64. Jephnol:“Oh this is just TOO perfect!
Note that Bmoon’s 7:15am post and schnargley’s 7:18am post are exactly the same!
It’s confirmed people! Pure, irrefutable proof of Leftist propaganda operatives!!!”
My thoughts exactly, but I think they need a community organizer to help them hit different threads with their cut and paste inanities.
Regarding the charge that a vote for McCain is racist: When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:00 pm 65. rvastar:That’s fine, WJO…but why the double post, under a different name?
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:06 pm 66. Ed Wallis:RBA – Thanks for the link…though the info has been SCRUBBED prior to release (ahem!).
Did anyone ELSE notice that “BMoon” and “schnargley” posted exactly the same text at 7:15 and 7:18 this morning…? heh.
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:08 pm 67. rvastar:You’re absolutely right, RBA. And I’ll bet that in the month that’s passed since the library refused to allow Stanley Kurtz access to the CAC files, that “information” is now so squeaky clean that reporters can probably see their own reflections in it
Yeah…no big deal! It’s almost enough to make one wonder why The One sent out a “Code Red” to his Green-Shirts to try to shut down a Kurtz radio appearance a few weeks back.
Weird, huh?
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:15 pm 68. Justin:What I don’t understand is why liberals always complain about fascists when it is communists who have committed the most atrocities by a very large margin. I guess by obsessing over fascists and giving communists a free pass they are ultimately declaring where their true values lie.
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:21 pm 69. Red Blooded American:Ed: I saw that too, and of course scrubbed can mean a number of different things. But there is a mass of files and I don’t think it’s too contentious to state that there are legitimate reasons for not releasing social security numbers and other personal data that may inadvertently be in the files. Not scrubbing in this instance would create huge potential legal liability. If they’ve scrubbed more than this sort of info, it will come out.
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:26 pm 70. Robin:The Democrats it is like the good ol boy network keeping the women down and want them not able to think or do anything on their own with out their leadership.They demand Women should be seen and not heard. We are tired of being pimped out for the vote. That is why myself husband and my 3 daughters. Also my twin sister’s girls will vote for the very first time for a Republican Sara Palin The leader of women rights for the future. The good ol boys did not want Hilliary but another party hack ,
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:28 pm 71. Samson:The American people can see the difference Obama who is a feminine east coast liberal elite. John McCain is a mans man who will lead us as a self confident commander in chief who has proven himself. Obama only proves he can not speak with out a teleprompter. That means it IS someone else who is putting out a false deceptive message THROUGH HIM! VOTERS BEWARE HE HAS A EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND WITH TERRORIST COMMUNIST SOCIALIST AND RACIST. Besides he is very flakey. I salute John McCain and Sara Palin who do pledge alliagence to our flag.
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:37 pm 72. USA-USA-USA:In this race, it has always been obvious that if you vote black, you are “progressive”, if you vote white, you are racist. If you vote female, you are feminist, if you vote male, you are misogynist.
When Democrats field candidates that call themselves plain Americans, instead of Xxxxx-Americans, I’ll consider voting for them.
Sep 9, 2008 - 12:44 pm 73. Gonzo:Has Hussein produced a Hawai’i birth certificate yet? Is he an Indonesian citizen or a Kenyan citizen? Does he know the Qor’an by heart in Arabic? Is he covering up his true identity?
Sep 9, 2008 - 1:20 pm 74. Robert Hurley:Was he mentored by a leader in the Communist party?
There is good evidence for all of these, but the mainstream media have been covering for him and shilling for him.
Wow! What can you say in answer to people who don’t do their homework and are experts only at slinging mud. I wonder if there is anyone here who could discuss the race rationally rather than believing everything they have read from their twisted sources. I have a lot of friends who will vote Republican and have rational reasons, but none of them are as loony as many of the people here.
Sep 9, 2008 - 1:21 pm 75. Bernard Chapin:Friends, Great Fellow Conservatives…and leftists, thanks so much for taking the time to read my piece. I was very interested in the two schnargley and BMOON posts which reminded me very much of my dealings with the Obama campaign operatives over at amazon over the Corsi book. They’re real redundant with that “action wire.” Of course, it may be a conservative doing parody. Either way, an interesting post indeed. Go McCain! Go Palin!
Sep 9, 2008 - 1:48 pm 76. rvastar:Wow! What a perfect example of a fact-free, pointless ad hominem “argument”!
While you’re at, since you’ve obviously done your “homework”, care to tell us why we should vote for a candidate with NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE?
Wow! What a perfect example of another fact-free, pointless ad hominem “argument”!
While you’re at, care to tell us why we should vote for a candidate with NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE?
Wow! What a perfect example of another fact-free, pointless ad hominem “argument”, making your entire post COMPLETELY WORTHLESS!
But please tell us about the “rational reasons” that your imaginary Republican friends are going to vote for McCain-Palin. And while you’re at it, explain why we should vote for a candidate with NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE.
Sep 9, 2008 - 1:53 pm 77. Robert Hurley:Having been in the Army for three years, I can attest to the fact that military experience does not, in and of itself, prepare you to be Commander-in-Chief. I don’t remember that Ronald Regan had any great military experience. It is the quality of your character and judgement that is important. Would you send you country into a senseless war and defer the payment to your grandchildren? Try explaining how McCain’s policies are going to lead us out of this economic and international mess we are in? I know that is a stretch for you because you would rather deal in invective.
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:23 pm 78. Big Ben:If McCain were black and Obama white, what would the polling show. I submit that a black McCain would be further ahead in the polls. Very few Republicans would refuse to vote for the Republican candidate merely because of his skin color, but a white Obama would never have energized the Far Left and the African American Community as a black Obama has.
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:30 pm 79. TexEd:If my theory is correct, then anti-black racism has no significant role in the election.
Alas, that is a claim that the black racist thugs WILL make; he only lost because he was black. But Hussein’s race in losing would only be determinate if he had been qualified in the first place. He has already used his race card. Hussein would NEVER be where his is today, Harvard, Senate or candidate if it wasn’t for his race.
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:51 pm 80. Lynn:Hussein’s handlers/pimps think he is qualified. When he loses, it won’t be because he was black, it will be because his pimps were wrong.
I have to asmit, I was leaning toward Obama and liked his TALK of change, But, the first time he had the opportunity to walk the walk, he selected BIDEN. Nothing Hussein could have done more clearly demonstrated that his vision didn’t square with that of normal Americans. Hell, he could have selected anyone from Hollywood (who’s the guy who plays golf with the Dali Lama?), a professor, a judge, the governor from New Mexico. The are a thousand people he could have selected instead of Biden that would have made people say, “Yeah, THAT is change.”
re: Robert Hurley
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:53 pm 81. rvastar:would you believe he is not the man you think he is if it were Democrats telling you? No racism, just facts concerning the Obama campaign.
http://www.wewillnotbesilent2008.com
Sleep well
Sure doesn’t hurt
Besides, point to anywhere that I – or anyone else, for that matter – stated that military experience, in and of itself, qualifies someone for the Presidency?
The point that everyone is making, rather clearly and plainly, is that when you look at the historical record, American presidents have solid experience in at least one of the following areas: executive management, military service, or foreign policy. Obama is a big fat ZERO in every category. Strange that, with the incredible intellect you attribute to yourself, you’re having such a difficult time grasping that fact. Well, I guess maybe it’s not “nuanced” enough to register in that big ol’ brain.
So…care to enlighten us as to why the American people should hand the most powerful office on Earth to a guy that has 1) NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER, 2) NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER, and 3) NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER?
100% correct. You know why? Because there’s already been a white Obama…his name is Dennis Kucinich.
And just look at how far he gets in every election
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:55 pm 82. schnargley:My post wasn’t any more “parody” than OJ was guilty.
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:57 pm 83. Lynn:oops. http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:57 pm 84. Jephnol:Jeeze, I’ll tell you how Obama will make the waters recede and heal the earth. Remember when he promised to use public financing and then broke his promise? Well he’s getting a little executive experience by deciding to break with the decision which broke his promise. YES! He’s taking public financing–again!
Wow! If this guy is elected president waffles will become the national breadfast.
Sep 9, 2008 - 2:57 pm 85. pappy:big ben: i think your theory does remove racism, but it sure turns things ugly.
Sep 9, 2008 - 3:15 pm 86. richy2041:IM VOTING FOR OMAMA……PS hes got great ears !!!!!!!!!
Sep 9, 2008 - 3:15 pm 87. JimB:I wouldn’t care if Obama is green, he will never get my vote. This is because he is that species of collectivist called a socialist. I am not. End of story.
Sep 9, 2008 - 3:21 pm 88. Terry Gain:“The dems should be way ahead at this point”.
Not if you examine their paltform:
1. Energy- No drilling. Magically, alternative energy appears in 10 years, because Obama is willing it.
2. Economy- pander to envy, tax the rich- discourage entrepreneurship.
3. Trade- curtail free trade. Encourage employers to take their busiiness elsewhere.
4. Significantly increase payroll taxes.
5. Take health care away from patients, doctors and insurers and give it to the state.
6. Defence- pull troops out of Iraq fasr enough to prevent the mission from being a success.
7. Elect as POTUS someone whose principal qualification is his skin color.
Should be way ahead? Think again.
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:28 pm 89. Ron:I agree with Jeff the independent. Most Americans will follow the candidates that tell them what they want to hear. This is why George W Bush got into office for two terms. What country do you know of besides the USA could go into a country and initiate a war on the premise we were helping that country. The untold American lives lost along with the Iraqi lives lost are more than that was lost on 9/11. Everyone in this current administration dismiss the fact that America along with the world was lied to garner support for a war there would not have been support for. Now you have everyone under the sun saying the surge is working and we should not leave. What was the goal of the war? Most Americans still do not know? They just him haw to the beat of what both parties tell us about this conflict. The reality is that Afghanistan not Iraq housed these terrorists known as Al Quaeda not Iraq at that time and there still has not been any link established. My point is before you get excited about all the speeches the candidates give you need to research where they truly stand. The Democrats do not have the votes necessary to unilateraly pull troops from Iraq. They may want to but it wont happen overnight like most Republicans are trying to portray. Also just giving speeches like Palin has giving is disingenious because she is not taking questions because she knows all she has is a script. As a business owner I believe in less government however for the last 8 years I have seen more government coming on the heels of the government rescuing a brokerage house in 2008 and now rescuing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and taking it over. Not to mention the oodles of dollars we are spending in Iraq. If we eliminated war we would save another $250 billion of the projected $407 billion deficit named today. If this administration had a $100 billion deficit no one would be on Bush’s back like they currently are. Learn the candidates and then learn the facts and then make your decision. America get over the race issue. Just my two cents.
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:48 pm 90. robert Hurley:Lynn:
Would you vote for a guy who supported every failed policy of this administration?
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:57 pm 91. robert Hurley:JimB:
The socialist label doesnt work any more.
Sep 9, 2008 - 4:59 pm 92. robert Hurley:Richy2041:
That is really an astute comment. I guess that is the best you can do
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:01 pm 93. robert Hurley:The wizard:
Are you black?
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:02 pm 94. Tom H:to all those who continue saying the O will win /i’m voting for the O/etc ad nauseum because he’s black – HE’S NOT BLACK…Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe if you can claim a 12% or greater ethnic heritage, you can fit into a minority classification – the O might have profited from Affirmative Action, but only because he is ARAB, not BLACK. -Barack Hussein Obama is not even half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya, his father’s family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro). From….and for more….go to…..
http://www.arcadeathome.com/n ewsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:30 pm 95. Allen Surdyke:so he is 6.25 black, Can I claim to be jewish because my grandmother on my mothers side was????
richy2041:
“IM VOTING FOR OMAMA……PS hes got great ears” !!!!!!!!!
You know what they say about great ears??? Great ears…good balance
OK now about Barry!!
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:33 pm 96. Jephnol:I’m getting rather angry at people saying if you don’t vote for Barry you are a racist. Let’s get this straight; Barrack isn’t ready for prime time yet. Maybe in 8 or 12 years he will have enough experience to be the Potus but right now he is a junior Senator. As we all know Senators don’t get elected. I think JFK was the last one. I am solely looking at experience on this election. I’m not a McCain fan by no means but you have to give him his due. Basically I think Palin is the best person on either ticket as far as real life experience. So on the 4th of Nov I will go into the voting booth and pull the lever for McCain because this isn’t time for on the job training>
Obama associated with anti-American radicals and racists:
Wright-pastor/mentor-racist
Frank Marshall Davis-political mentor-member of Communist Party USA
Pfleger-community associations-Admires Louis Farakhan and sexist bash on “white” Hilary Clinton
Ayers and Dorn-community association/friends/supporters-Weather Underground, Ayers said recently they did not “do enough”–he recommended radicals carry guns in the 60’s and if they shot a “pig” in protest that wouldn’t be a bad thing. They didn’t “do” enough…
Obama has 173 days in session in the senate vs. McCain’s 22 years and his supporters claim he has enough experience.
But let me get this straight: You like his ears.
Well… You sound like you should vote for “Omama”.
Sep 9, 2008 - 5:36 pm 97. katablog.com:Phooey! I’m a white woman older voter and skin color has nothing to do with it.
Sep 9, 2008 - 6:25 pm 98. TheOrchidThief:Obama:
As we say down here. “All hat…no cattle”, but now “All hat…no church”.
Are you believing this, that the Democrats are commiting suicide again?
Sep 9, 2008 - 6:41 pm 99. Patterson:“If Obama loses… okay, when Obama loses, we will have fulfilled the great Martin Luther King, Jr.’s dream.
We will have judged a man, not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.”
Bonnie! I love you! Pure genius and the absolute truth!!!
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:18 pm 100. Patterson:BMoon
Oh how I wish you could write Obama’s speeches for him. You would make this so much easier on the world.
Now where shall I start?
Here’s a good place! “un-American beliefs and attitudes” hold on just a second…(ruffles through youtube videos). Here it is! One of the many videos showing Obama not paying respect to the flag. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o
How much more god damned un-American can you get? Oh wait I’ve got more though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVv1J5IDZNE
Want me to go on? Please say something absolutely ignorant as hell like that again so I can burn you to the ground. Your entire argument has been blown to pieces. You can’t fool us in this day and age. It’s called the internet. Before you post trash like that again make sure you can back it up and not shoot from the hip.
In the words of a great man…
BMoon, pack your bags and get the hell off my internet!!!
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:35 pm 101. robert Hurley:I wonder what you will do if Obama wins
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:42 pm 102. Rubicon:Bonnie…. you absolutely hit the nail on the head. Qualified means, one has some sort of leadership experience other than rabble rousing. And no matter how you paint it, Obama’s “community organizer” days were spent doing just that. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge educational project saw more money go to associates & friends promoting social & racial issues, than it saw go to actual educational projects. The Algebra Project was rejected. Its record of achievements among minorities is well documented. Yet, they did not qualify.
Sep 9, 2008 - 7:43 pm 103. QBK:While many on the left decry such as “uncle tom” or “Oreo” they miss out when they overlook people like Clarence Thomas or Michael Steele. I could name more, but it amounts to the fact they are qualified & have vast managerial experience leading & accomplishing. Obama has none of that experience or leadership.
His campaign is based on what can only be described as mass hysteria.
I do not fear being called a racist. I know when I vote for someone I vote for someone who has experience, a leadership background, managerial experience, & who has a record of actually working on a bi-partisan basis to resolve issues that affect all of us.
On the freedom of speech issue…. Obama has already said he would support return of the so called “Fairness Doctrine,” yet that regulation is no where close to fair. Kennedy & co. pushed it so they could silence opposition. But it was seen for what it is, a free speech suppressant, ripe with partisan political vindictiveness.
Obama would also support “card Check.” The organized union movements try to force workers to vote by card for representation, w/o the benefit of a private polling booth. The history of union thuggery alone makes that idea, repugnant to any who desire free speech.
WGN in Chicago had a guest on. Obama’s campaign refused to respond to a request for a guest of their own to counter. WGN would surely have had an Obama supporter on at another day for the two full hours, un-interrupted, but instead…..
the campaign office energized their base & had them flood the station complaining they should never have given the guy air time. They did not dispute anything the man said, only that he had been allowed to even speak.
That is NOT free speech. That is socialist oppression similar to Kim Jong Ill, Castro, & Hugo Chavez. Look how terrific life is in those nations. What is it, $20.00 a week salary for average Cubans??!! WOW, how “progressive of them! Doctors, nurses, Architects, & others in Cuba complain, but only so loudly so they do not anger, the leaders!
Sorry, but Obama reflects in his speech & plans that he is a socialist, mentored by Marxists, & desirous of a system that takes from those he selects to give to those he selects.
Why haven’t the wealthy who push for more taxes like Obama proposes, been paying additional amounts for the past 200 years into the Treasury Dept. Its not like they’d refuse the money! Why do those same wealthy folks seek out tax loopholes, endowments, foundations, & non taxable off shore accounts? They want higher taxes, but they know it really will be on the common man & not the elite.
Its all about freedom, individual freedom. Its all about maintaining our safety and our economy when envious others want us to buy into the change the same systems that have failed them or others that they hope could work. Its a utopian dream that has always failed.
Vote McCain-Palin in ‘08
Bonnie, MLK stated to look at “the content of one’s character” and if you knew what that meant, you would look at Obama’s character, not the fact that he doesn’t fit your political leanings. Obama has impeccable character, far better than John McCain. (If you don’t believe me, lets look at their marital records, voting records [John McCain didn't even vote in favor of the MLK Holiday in Arizona]). The irony of you quoting Dr. King to support Senator McCain shows lack of true character and knowledge on your part.
Obama will WIN in November because he is….
#1 SMART!(we’ve had a C student for a president for 8 years, why not vote for the former Harvard Law Review President). King Solomon prayed to God for wisdom and God said because of his prayer, his kingdom will flourish and be blessed. Obama has wisdom from training and from education. Our nation will benefit under his administration.
#2 Obama has a concrete and good PLAN! I listened to the RNC and I did not hear one concrete plan from any Reap other than drilling in Alaska for oil. Is that the only concern, gas prices? Last time I checked unemployment is at 6.1%, a national high for the year, foreclosures are rampant, and people are dying because of not having healthcare. McCain didn’t tell you ONE plan on how he was going to change the economy. That’s the biggest issue right now. McCain= McSame!
#3- Obama is a true PUBLIC SERVANT. He was a community organizer who advocated for workers’ rights. He was in the Illinois legislature for 8 years, and in the US Senate for 2 years. He is willing to do the work to make the United States better.
As a person who lives in the 3rd largest economny of the world, I believe we deserve a country that is even better than it is today. That’s why I’m voting for true change, I’m voting for Obama. And so should you!
Sep 9, 2008 - 8:59 pm 104. Freedom's just another word..:I know a man by his actions.
He says he’s for the poor. Yet, he did not give much to the poor prior to his Presidential dreams. He also did not help out his own brother who lives on $12 a year.
Enough.
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:08 pm 105. Brian:Bonnie-right on the money!Let the Left chew on that for awhile.Obama will lose because he lied and attempted to deceive the American people.Thats why he will lose.The Media can go on and on about race and it wont make a bit of difference.
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:28 pm 106. Trillian:Obama never bonded with America or Americans. He was jerked around too much as a kid. He has no home. He tried to put down roots in Chicago, but it was in shallow soil. Too bad. He’ll blame his loss on all the wrong reasons.
Sep 9, 2008 - 9:54 pm 107. Rachel Peepers:Guys,
I’m bleary eyed.
Like a good girl, today, I went to my classes, then softball practice, (worked on a change up) ate, talked to my Dad on the phone, read about the supremes, clicked on Drudge and stopped in at PJM to see what you guys were up to, and to ask a question.
Anybody remember what Jay Leno asked Hugh Grant on July 4, 2006?
No?
When Hugh walked out on the Tonight Show stage that evening and sat down, Jay opened with, “Tell me,Hugh, what were you thinking?”
This, of course, was in reference to Hugh’s hooker experience/arrest some days before.
I guess women have a way of making famous guys, maybe most guys, go bananas.
So can somebody please explain to me what Obama was thinking when he said to a small crowd of people today, Hey, you can put lipstick on a pig, but she’s still a pig.”
Well, I submit to you that a sexist remark that foul demotes Obama to the status of swine. A pig in men’s clothing.
What this oinker of a joke, of course, was;
a reference to Sarah Palin’s convention comment about telling the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull. It was a bald faced slap shot in Sarah’s face, really in the face of all women.
(My Dad says that the fact Biden also recently referenced lipstick in a noxious way removes any innocent remark argument.)
Now, Barack’s see-how many-times-we-can-shoot outselves-in-the-foot-in-a-48-hour-news-cycle gang, is sending 30 lawyers to Alaska to see what kind of dirt they can dig up to feed to the mainstream Barack bootlickin’media’s smear machine.
I swear, these guys are so dirty they make the Chicago sewer system look like a Paris Island boot camp foot locker.
But it’s more than that.
I haven’t heard anyone say it before so let me try to be the first. The Obama campaign not only looks like its dirt spreading machine is becoming unhinged, but it looks disorganized. Leaderless. (as in, “don’t blame me, it wasn’t my idea”)
Like the German high command in France when the Screaming Eagles were landing all over hell’s half acre. Rommel was home, Hitler was sleeping. And no one had the b’s to give the marching orders.
Moreover, I really do have the sneaking suspicion that Obama’s barely competent high command is positioning themselves not to be the losers in the post convention blame game.
And that’s one of the characteristics that every four years the Democratic Party passes on like one inbred family gene to another.
They hire their friends, dumb, dumber and then some to fill communications slots that should be filled by the best and the brightest, like Ike and Nixon used to do.
Instead, they have pollsters and creative peons writing strategies that aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on. They make commercials that a memory expert would forget.
What’s more, if I hear Obama tomorrow tell the TV audience, “Look, I’ll be the first to admit”, yesterday I misspoke, I swear I’ll explode.
Or not. Actually, my sense is that something good is happening across America. I think that Sarah Palin is tapping into something that political correctness can brutalize but can’t seem to kill; something that’s part of the very fabric of our nation.
For me, she embodies the pioneer spirit. The sense of fairness and decency, belief in family, trust in God that formed the bedrock of our beliefs; the foundation of our constitution.
If an overlay of guilt and self doubt is now being spread across this nation where a warm quilt of pride once covered it, that’s wrong.
Maybe there’s something we’ve kind of forgotten along the way. Something that Sarah reminded me of. When her country called, she didn’t hesitate. Like enraged citizens on Monday, December 8th, 1941, she, too, answered the call. For me, she’s something uniquely American.
She’s Crockett at the Alamo. Barefoot troops at Valley Forge. Charging Teddy. Alvin York, the pacifist in France. A.C. McAuliffe at Bastogne. McCain in the Hanoi Hilton. For little old Rachel, Sarah Palin is right up there with the best of them.
This woman, mother of five, does more than make me proud to be a woman.
She makes me prouder than ever before to be an American.
Sep 10, 2008 - 12:30 am 108. Ed Wallis:“QBK” 8:59pm –
If you want a President who is “SMART!”, than I respectfully suggest RUN don’t WALK from Obama. Receiving an education does not directly result in a person utilizing that intellect, much less using it wisely. Obama has proven to me that he is uninformed and a prevaricator (which might be good when you want a two-stepping lawyer in front of a judge, but NOT FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STSTES OF AMERICA). Therefore, I recommend you VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN THIS NOVEMBER.
If you want a Pesident who has a “PLAN,” again ask yourself IF THAT PLAN is RIGHT FOR AMERICA. Obama’s policies – those miserable few coherent enough to be called one – PROMOTE SOCIALISM. I do not consider Socialism an American “value.” Also, “talking” to terrorist nations naively is a “plan” only for suicide. Therefore, I recommend you VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN THIS NOVEMBER.
If you want a President who “is a true PUBLIC SERVANT”, there is honestly ONLY ONE in the race: JOHN McCAIN. You yourself PROVE my point by highlighting the fact that a “community organizer” helps “workers”…a nice “euphamism” from the old Communist days (…don’t you think EVERYONE works, silly wabbit?!). While in the Illinois legislature, he served NOT THE PUBLIC BUT RATHER THE DALEY CHICAGO MACHINE (read Freddoso’s book, “The Case Against Barack Obama”). Obama is willing to do the work to make the United States MORE LIKE RUSSIA. Therefore, I recommend you VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN THIS NOVEMBER.
“Change” is more than TALK…ESPECIALLY when it is CHANGE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SOCIALISM is WRONG FOR AMERICA…AS IS OBAMA.
VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN THIS NOVEMBER.
Sep 10, 2008 - 12:41 am 109. Ed Wallis:Another reason to VOTE McCAIN/PALIN (and reject Obama):
FIGHT EARMARKS
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122100927525717663.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
Sep 10, 2008 - 1:17 am 110. Believer:For a year and a half now, I’ve said it’s Obama’s lack of character and judgment that disqualify him. Easily evidenced when he’s under pressure:
I, too, today learned of his remark about lipstick on a pig. And immediately thought of the ‘finger’ he gave Hillary in order to demean her before a huge – and appreciative – crowd. He resorted to that soon after she began to get real traction and his numbers were falling. Just as they are now.
There’s no getting around it: those gestures and words were meant to be understood by his audience – and they were. Disgusting behavior.
Terrific role model for our kids. This is a pathetic, immature man the Democrats have offered up. No gentleman is he. But one who seems to be easily threatened by a strong woman. We have higher standards than this.
Think of past presidents you’ve admired (or even those you haven’t) — can you imagine any of them behaving with so little class?
I hope the citizens step up and send a clear message to him in November:
Grow up, pal.
Sep 10, 2008 - 2:52 am 111. Jeff:Bonnie wrote —
~~~If Obama loses… okay, when Obama loses, we will have fulfilled the great Martin Luther King, Jr.’s dream.
We will have judged a man, not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.~~~
Bonnie, this was just an absolute brilliant masterpiece, even by my standards. This is the best example of reverse psychology, parody, and the use of symbolism to get a message across. Even Albert Einstein would be so proud.
With that said, we should all do some research and compare both candidates’ marital, educational, accomplishments, personal, and criminal records. Now, wouldn’t this be the best measure of true character?
I’ve heard of all of Obama’s infamous alliances without a thread of solid proof or evidence? Has anyone done any research or even heard of the Keating Five? This is something that’s very compelling and actually made it to Wikipedia, unlike most propaganda rumors that we hear repetitively. Oh by the way, I took the liberty of including a link to make it easy for all of us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
Ohhhhh, and we absolutely must research and compare the educational and marital records between the two candidates. I’ll leave that to all of you because I know you are a well educated bunch.
Sep 10, 2008 - 4:10 am 112. Ed Wallis:Jeff,
The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. literally said those words about judging a man, not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.
Your statement “This is the best example of reverse psychology, parody, and the use of symbolism to get a message across” is MORONIC, and an INSULT to the legacy of Dr. King.
Go back to http://www.highlights.com/ where you and your childish prattle belong.
Sep 10, 2008 - 4:48 am 113. 888:R. Hurley: Reagan served in the military as an Army Captain until 1945, then stayed in as an officer in the Reserves until ‘53.
Interesting how Obama is now saying that years ago, he thought of enlisting in the Army. He’s trying to cozy up to the young ones in the military because he now needs their support, but we all remember how he famously shunned the wounded soldiers at Landstuhl Hospital. Rather than giving these guys and gals just a few minutes of his time to thank them for serving their country abroad and fighting for ours and HIS freedom, Mr. Arrogant worked out at the base gym, instead. This, right after greeting 100,000 German fans and proclaiming proudly how he was a citizen ‘of the world’. So disgusting, but, oh, so telling. The guy’s full of himself.
Sep 10, 2008 - 5:55 am 114. Herb:The pundits on this site insult my intelligence, regardless.
Sep 10, 2008 - 6:28 am 115. Lisa:The Obama campaign and DNC, curiously, have already launched all out attacks against the choice and Palin herself, indicating that she does not have enough executive or national experience.
Excuse me? She does not have enough executive experience?
A simple analysis of the relative experience levels of Sarah Palin compared to either Democratic candidate puts this to rest. For over the past decade, Sarah Palin has been involved in executive decision making at increasing levels of elected positions of public trust. Obama has no executive experience, Biden has no executive experience. During that time, Palin left off running an actual private business in Alaska, a commercial fishing business and was elected to her city council and then, in quick order to be Mayor of her home town. She did so well there that she was ultimately elected to be Governor of the State of Alaska, managing 17,000 personnel and a 9 billion dollar budget. Obama and Biden have absolutely no comparable experience at all, neither of them.
Sep 10, 2008 - 6:46 am 116. 888:Herb, you always get personal, instead of responding to the statements with intelligent and supported/supportable defenses of your guy.
C’mon, join the ranks…you’ll be happier on this side of the fence. Obama’s not worth fighting for. Look, he’s not fighting for you. He’s in this only for himself. Besides, he’s too beholden to the ultra-left, socialist wing of the Democratic party, plus all of those unsavory, wacked-out characters he used over the years to get ahead. Believe me, these people are not mainstream, okay? You’d be better off with us…really.
Sep 10, 2008 - 7:02 am 117. rvastar:You’re surprised by that, 888? Ad hominem, red herrings, straw men – that’s all the Left is capable of. Period.
Read through this entire thread. Not one of the Obama supporters offers anything even approaching a valid argument as to why anyone should vote for this guy. Note my exchanges above with Robert Hurley: time after time, I ask for ONE concrete reason to vote for Obama. He offers one utterly pointless response, rife with straw men and red herrings about Ronald Reagan and “senseless war”. When I counter that and again ask for a concrete reason to vote for Obama, he simply gives up.
In fact, the only one that even attempts to provide an answer is QBK, who – if you look at the stilted prose and hackneyed phrasing (”Obama has wisdom from training and from education”…”Obama has a concrete and good PLAN!”….”That’s why I’m voting for true change, I’m voting for Obama”) – is pretty obviously some college-aged volunteer for either the Obama camp, MoveOn.org, or some other Leftist group who’s simply following marching orders.
And the reasons he/she gives for voting for Obama? Because Obama 1) is smart, 2) has a plan, and 3) is a public servant.
That is what passes for reason on the Left.
But again, it’s not a surprise: the Left has been running on pure emotionalism since it first burst upon the political scene in the French Revolution. “Tear it down!”…with absolutely no idea of the real consequences that follow (see Russia, circa 1917) and even less of an idea as to what to do afterwards.
Sep 10, 2008 - 7:39 am 118. ReCon USMC:Too Jeff
Now, we have made 2 mistakes with Bush Jr. by allowing him to serve not once, but twice. So my last question to America is, guess which candidate shares the interests of both, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.? I will let America answer this one. We are much, much smarter as a country to want to make history rather than make mistakes and to suffer yet again from our own mistakes by not using objectivity as our first and foremost agenda.
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There is nothing “”Objective “”FIRST AND FOREMOST AGENDA about America becoming a Socialist Nation Obama promises us 10 fold !
Your a Liberal obviously ! I also guess you forgot the Computer Soft wear market lost over 68 % of its Cos and their stocks went to hell ……..under Clinton who raised taxes but the Economy was already winning not because of anything Clinton did ….If you Boy Clinton would have taken out Bin Laden One of the Three times we were offered him .9/11 would have never happened plus Clinton failed to kill Saddam on four different try’s need we forget .
Bush didn’t create the worse storm in American History nor was he the Liberal mayor or Gov. there either .
America can handle a Black or women President ….. But hopefully never a devout Socialist of any color , race or religion .
Sep 10, 2008 - 10:00 am 119. ReCon USMC:Oboma hates Capitalism and is strongly against Oil drilling , Nuclear , clean coal, demands higher taxes and more welfare in a slow economy .They would brake this nation even a “”Economic fool should know .
Carter gave us a wind fall Profit tax ending America using our own Oil .
Since then ”others ” have supplied our major oil needs .
Facts are facts!! I hope this makes you think a little bit.
Just historical data is beyond me?
George Bush has been in office for 7 years and 8 months.
The first 6years the economy was fine, moving at a stable predictable rate.
A little just over one year ago:
· Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
· The Dollar was strong;
· Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
· The unemployment rate was 4.5%;
· Most businesses were thriving in our country;
· The DOW JONES hit a record high of 14,000+, and American’s were buying new cars, taking cruises, buying second homes and vacations houses, we were living large!…;
· The USA was still respected and recognized for our global commitment!;
· The Dollar was strong, and the world wanted to invest in the good old USA;
· Many did not agree with our tactics, but the world saw a unified America, never seen since world war II.
But American’s wanted ‘CHANGE’! So; in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress & yep; we got ‘CHANGE’ all right.
In the PAST YEAR and some months:
· Consumer confidence has plummeted;
· Gasoline got to over $5 a gallon, and we have not seen the end yet!;
· Unemployment is up to 6% (a 15% increase)and rising;
· Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION & prices are
Still dropping;
· 1.9% of American homes are in foreclosure, more to come;
· As I write, THE DOW is probing another low at 11,508;
· $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS have evaporated from our investment portfolios;
· The Dollar is at our history’s weakest margins;
· The current US Congress (Led by Harry Reed , Nancy Pelosi & Joe Biden) made it a partisan agenda to stall, block, and fight any project of law that could help the incumbent party in any way!
· Congress has since received the LOWEST public approval record at 9 %
In history! Lower than that of their one and only nemesis which they have set out to destroy with rhetoric and lack of support; Our President at 34 % .
YEP, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE!…AND WE SURE GOT T!!!….Only in America can our own government institution (Laden by the self serving scum of our society) bring us down to our knees as our Congress has in 18 months!
NOW OBAMA, SAYS HE’S REALLY GOING TO GIVE US CHANGE!!
· Increase Income Taxes;
· Increase Capital Gains Taxes;
· Reinstate the Inheritance Taxes to higher levels;
· Withdraw our forces from Iraq (Possibly reversing our hard won victory);
· Nationalize Healthcare (Now I know I’ve heard this before? Yes Michael Moore!) neither have a clue, it just sounds good!;
· Reduce Military spending (Clinton set us back 10 years; this clown will have us asking the UN to protect our interests by the time he gets through!);
· Wants to “Dialogue” and “Understand” our worst enemies, and does not want to seem insensitive by wearing our flag;
· Obama fails to see the need to protect infant life; even after live birth!
· He is going to achieve all this by crossing “Party Lines”!!! An inexperienced Democrat President, with a failed Democratic Congress in power at the same time? Why would he need to cross any lines? Obama must think that we are all really stupid!
· Obama denies his Muslim origins by calling himself a Christian, yet writes in his own book; The Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’Yet on ABC He called him self my Muslim faith . George S. SAVED HIM WITH A ”YOU MEAN CHRISTIAN DON’T YOU ?
JUST HOW MUCH MORE ‘CHANGE’ DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND???….. Are we blind or just as he thinks we are? Mostly Stupid!!
Sep 10, 2008 - 11:10 am 120. Andy Anderson:Jeff, what standard are you using to place GWB as “The worst economically in the last quarter century?” Even tossing out the effects of 9/11 on the economy (and those effects were profound indeed) the economy has been booming under GWB up until recently. Wasn’t this also true of Clinton? I will concede that the economy was strong throughout the middle of his time in office (and would also argue that was more a result of the silly tech bubble that we all knew would burst ultimately, and boy did it), but the economy was most certainly on it’s way down at the end of his term as well. I don’t see a great deal of difference in the numbers over 8 years between GWB and Clinton.
Sep 10, 2008 - 1:11 pm 121. mike:I guess the MSM thinks liberals are racist. Conservatives wouldn’t be expected to vote for Obama anyway due to his positions. If he loses it would be because he didn’t get enough votes from liberals who would normally be expected to agree with his positions but didn’t vote for him because of his race.
Since the MSM self identifies as liberal maybe they know what they’re talking about in this case, they really are racists.
Sep 10, 2008 - 1:49 pm 122. Billie Red Horse:Hillary has more class than most democrats, she dose not attack a sister. I know that one day she will run for President and not lackey for obama. I hope more people will wakeup
Sep 10, 2008 - 1:53 pm 123. JimB:And vote for McCain. He knows who he is, He knows where we must go, and He will be there for all of us. VOTE McCain
Robert Hurley,
In your case it doesn’t. Lemming fits better.
Sep 10, 2008 - 1:59 pm 124. Chang:I e-mail Allan Comes about Ji Young I was on his blog and I was so happy to some one like me, as I was Reading Ji then she was gone I e-maild Allan Cones were do she go but they will not let people from China have a say!!
Sep 10, 2008 - 2:00 pm 125. Chang:I e-mail Allan Comes about Ji Young I was on his blog and I was so happy to some one like me, as I was Reading Ji then she was gone I e-maild Allan Cones were do she go but they will not let people from China have a say!!
Sep 10, 2008 - 2:00 pm 126. Jeff:Ed Wallis’ statement below to me in regard’s to my post on Sep 10, 2008 – 4:10 am –
~~~The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. literally said those words about judging a man, not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.
Your statement “This is the best example of reverse psychology, parody, and the use of symbolism to get a message across” is MORONIC, and an INSULT to the legacy of Dr. King.~~~
Ed, I know exactly what was said in Dr. King’s historic “I Have A Dream” speech in 1963. So let me explain it in simpler terms so that even you can understand it, when I commented on Bonnie’s brilliant masterpiece. That was my version of sarcasm, by the way, Bonnie. When I said,”This is the best example of reverse psychology, parody, and the use of symbolism to get a message across” in regards to Bonnie’s post below –
~~~If Obama loses… okay, when Obama loses, we will have fulfilled the great Martin Luther King, Jr.’s dream.
We will have judged a man, not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.~~~
When I said that Bonnie’s post was the best example of reverse psychology, parody, and the use of symbolism to get a message across; what I really meant was that number one, we CLEARLY know that Bonnie is white. Number two, she’s using one black man’s historical speech to try to break down another black man with the false pretense to blacks indirectly that, “See, this historical passage is from one of your own, which is the primary standard by which we all are judging Obama, so if he losses, you all can’t cry racism anymore”.
Also, in the black community, who is THE biggest symbol? Whouldn’t that be Martin Luther King Jr.?
Sep 10, 2008 - 5:50 pm 127. Senav:To use him as a symbol and use his historical speech to mock another man of his same ethnicity unfairly is the best case of reverse psychology, parody, and the use of symbolism to get a message across that I have ever seen. Bonnie clearly is very insensitive towards the blacks’ struggles and I doubt that she has any black friends. Don’t praise her until you can REALLY understand the fine print, America.
When the big O loses due to ineptness, the chance of a qualified black running will be set back at least 50 years,
Sep 10, 2008 - 6:15 pm 128. nlcatter:When whites tell me they cant vote for a black man, I know the racsim is a factor. ONly question is how much. At first hack I say it is 5% here but 10%+ in southern states. If Obama was white, he would be leading in the polls.
Picking Hillary as VP would have given a 5% edge
Ohio will be key state.
Sep 10, 2008 - 7:47 pm 129. ssm:Obama and Biden are the worst trash for a national office. To throw insults and lie about Sara Palins Integrity of a mother wife and govenor who serves her people wit a 80 percent approval rateing is absolutly despicable and the should be soundly rejected and ejected
Sep 10, 2008 - 7:57 pm 130. Percey:Obama
Sep 10, 2008 - 8:15 pm 131. LTMSmith:cant talk without a teleprompter. Who is telling him what to say? If you do not like him you are a racist. Let us just vote for who really is speaking through his telepromter. George Soros Tony Rizio and middle east operatives
Country first, how about people first. The America people can be so hypocritical that it stuns me. Maccain tax policies would not only favor the rich, but they would recieve a income tax check; Obama tax would benefit all those that make less than $250,000. Senior citizens who make less than $50,000 wouldn’t even have to pay income taxes. Maccain says that Obama would deny off-shore drilling; Obama said that although he do not like that idea, he would concede to that idea because the people of America (the majority) wants it. He has agreed that if that ban was lifted, stipulation had to be reach on alternative fuel. Maccain voted against the G.I.Bill, Obama voted, w/ Gov. Webb of Virginia both voted on that bill. Maccain was a veteran himself, how can he himself deny that to other soldiers.
Sep 10, 2008 - 11:09 pm 132. Ed Wallis:How can people look to the USA for moral icon to aspire to be when we have GITMO and condone torture; it disminishes us. I know it politics, but Maccain has run 4 times the attack ads then ObamaPeople would rather have their house foreclosed on, $4 gas, a job shipped over seas, two wars, poor health, catered taxes to the rich, and poor trade then to have a black man man in their WHITE HOUSE. A black man that they had dominion over for 400 years; I call that my poor me sydrome”.
Maccain likes to use his experience as a POW as a weapon weapon, yet he didn’t vote for the G.I.Bill. His a hypocrit and a liar. Some American are to stupid to do research to get fact for fiction. If I was dissatisfied w/ the canidated of the democative party, know well would I have voted republican. Country first, no, party first. So, for those who were dems. and went to maccain, they deserve you; traitors, liars, and swear tactnicians wi’ll fit right in. I hope gas increase to $8.00, your house gets foreclosed, your milk rise to $7 per gallon $job shipped, and your eating out of the trash over seas, and Maccain start a war w/ BOMB,BOMB, BOMB, Iran and Gorgia. By then it will be to late. So good luck, America, you’ll need it. LTMSmith@hotmail.com
“nlcatter – 7:47pm,” Thank you for being so openly honest about your racism; it helps everyone to understand what is at the heart of the “genuine” support for Barack Obama.
Sep 10, 2008 - 11:25 pm 133. 888:Nlcatter: “If Obama was white, he would be leading in the polls.”
You are so wrong. You liberals still don’t get it. America is predominantly moderate to conservative — I don’t know how many times I have to repeat that. The heartland of America will never support a tax-n-spend extreme liberal like Obama, or, a white version of Obama — do Kerry, Dukakis and Gore ring a bell? Middle America cannot relate to an elitist who is out-of-touch with the common folk. Sarah Palin and the straight talking McCain resonates because they’re not arrogant, and they’re not hypocrites. Most of all, you know where they’re comin’ from because they tell you like it is. You know that these two Republicans have principles because they had the courage to tell off powerful and senior members of their own party. That’s what you call ‘true grit’. Obama could never, and would never, stand up to Democrats he didn’t agree with. He’s too beholden to them and the rest of the liberal, socialist establishment.
Sep 11, 2008 - 3:48 am 134. Tom:If Obama loses will his wife decide she is no longer proud to be an American?
Sep 11, 2008 - 6:58 am 135. nick:wrong? I already heard from white democrats
“I cant vote for a black, too bad hillary…”
but not only me = simiiar expressions by whites are all over the web
the only thing you can challenge is how much!
and Barney Smith is typical of those you cite who ARE voting for Obama.
Sep 11, 2008 - 8:33 am 136. nick:ed wallis. which racism?
you have no clue! ROLFMGO
Sep 11, 2008 - 8:34 am 137. nick:ltmsmith – good thoughts but put in more white space
Sep 11, 2008 - 8:36 am 138. Rev. Sam:(oops I let it out a secret)
Rev. Sam:
I am appalled and disgusted by the claim of Obama supporters that Jesus was a community organizer. Jesus Christ told people to trust in God not the government. I am very upset how the liberal media is comparing Obama to Jesus with a halo. This is total blasphemy and shows how low and evil these people are. Only a fool would vote for low life fraud like him
Sep 11, 2008 - 11:41 am 139. nick:Rev sam you are certified MORON
they did not say Obama was as good as JC
but in same line of work
compared to Pilate who was gov just like Palin.
and DONT date tell me what is blasphemy
Sep 11, 2008 - 8:32 pm 140. nick:from your crackpot of a church who doesnt even know what theology is!
Mccain – “Senator Obama’s service in that area of community organizing is outstanding,”
Sep 11, 2008 - 9:27 pm 141. Ed Wallis:Yes, “nick,” I also find it “outstanding” how well Zerobama agitated those panhandlers (I hope you got some help by now).
Sep 11, 2008 - 11:54 pm 142. Henry:Ed,
You seem like a radical WHITE Wing McCan’t-Do-Anything-For-The-Country supporter. You all sound so low class, typical, and redundant throughout this website.
Sep 12, 2008 - 1:58 am 143. Rev. Sam:Nick
Sep 12, 2008 - 8:01 am 144. nick:Just keep spitting out your foolishness and distortions of what I said and the media said . The more you speak the bigger fool you are. You are supporting a certified liar corrupt and a socialist tied to Islamic terrorist. He voted to let live born babies thrown into a medical waste basket. The same Obama sends his kids to a private school and wont offend his teachers union bribers by denying school chice for the common folk. Perhaps you should visit my church and get saved.
So there was a bill that said “throw live born babies into a medical waste basket.”
and he voted for it?
wow !!
Sep 12, 2008 - 9:00 am 145. nick:your “church” is heretical and its main purpose is to provide you a nice life style
Sep 12, 2008 - 9:01 am 146. Elise:Jimmy swaggart
It is ovious Nick you are blinded by your messiah Obama. Do a little research as Jesus said you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
Here is an outstanding article in Human Events, by Amanda Carpenter, that reveals the dark reality we face in the coming election. For all his outward charm and clear ability to move listeners with his words, Barack Obama is the most radical left-wing liberal on the issue of abortion, among others, that has ever run for President with a viable chance to win. (Click Read More below)
This article reveals Obama’s support in the Illinois legislature for the heinous practice of “Live-Birth Abortion.” Essentially, it is the practice of infanticide. He opposed a bill that would require treatment for babies who survive abortion or other medical procedures. These are live-born babies! He opposed requiring that all live-born babies be given necessary treatment. Rather, he favors letting it be the choice of the mother to allow a live-born, fully viable baby just die for lack of care and treatment. This position is so radical, the following article points out, that even the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) did not oppose the bill that Obama worked against.
Sep 12, 2008 - 10:32 am 147. Elise:Since the Democrats have the liberty to change the Bible with the fraud Jesus was a community Organizer and Pontius Pilate was governor.
Then I must imform them that Judas was a Democrat and Satan was and is a Democrat. The Democrats have been treasonious and wicked. Satan bears the same fruit Kill Steal and Destroy.
Rev, Wright-Democrat
Farrakhan- Democrat
William Ayers – Democrat
Saul Alinsky- Democrat
Tony Rizzo- Democrat
Ted Kennedy the swimmer- Democrat
Holywood Liberals pillars of morality- Democrats
There are to many to mention
What a refreshing and happy beautiful Sara Palin is compared to thoese mean spirited whinners and vicious finger pointers commonly known as Democrats.
Sep 12, 2008 - 10:59 am 148. nick:Sarah Satan hmm 5 letters
a new word for Satan is SARAH!
Sep 12, 2008 - 6:27 pm 149. Becky:Obama’s Disgusting commercial McCain is computer
illiterate and can not send emails
McCain was injured and tortured as a POW during the war. His disability prevents him from typing.Fighting and nearly died for a bunch of ungratefull selfish little wimps who can sit a home hiding behind their computers. Shame on you. I also am a disabled Veteran who suffers in severe pain every day. The hope is some group of young people would learn to appreciate the generation that made their freedom possible.
Sep 12, 2008 - 6:57 pm 150. Jeff:The news media or a coward like Obama never fought bleed or suffered for you.
Thank God their are young men and woman who are serveing honorable for their nation. Obama is a disgusting piece of garbage for posting his ad. A pox on him and his slimy campaign
To those of you who have family, friends, or relatives in the Armed Forces serving in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is imperative that I mention these facts below to you. I welcome you all to do your own research on this or Google it.
For a man to be an ex POW in Vietnam who has endured so much torture and punishment and who promotes “Country First” on his campaign, his history should lead him to do better for his fellow men and women in the Armed Forces but here are the FACTS below —
1) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of more spending for the protection of our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
2) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of deploying more armor and artillery for our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
3) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation and more medical benefits to our injured troops returning from Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
4) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation to our veterans of all the past wars, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
Please look over these FACTS and do your own research. For a man to promote character, wisdom, and the love for his country; the facts don’t coincide with this man.
This Election 2008 is a colorless election. It is about two human beings that want to lead our country, either in the right direction or in the wrong direction. We have lived the wrong direction for 8 years and have been in the wrong side of history throughout that time. Do we want to live it again?
Sep 12, 2008 - 6:59 pm 151. nlcatter:Becky you are a liar. Google even shows us how!
Jeff your issue falls on deaf ears, Mccain doesnt care about the veteran, just earmarks.
guess him and Palin will go at it.
Sep 12, 2008 - 8:23 pm 152. Ed Wallis:Gee, “Jeff-O’bot-fake-Independent,” now that you’re not pretending to be balanced anymore, maybe you’d like to ALSO tell everyone just what PORK PROJECTS were attached to those bills you reference….
Remember: telling half the truth can be just as much of a lie.
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“nlcatter,” you clearly belong on THE DARK SIDE of htpp://www.highlights.com when you write about Obama’s latest insult of McCain:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/12/why-cant-mccain-email/
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTliMTNiZjg5ZDEwZWNiZDYwZWFjN2JlNjNjNjkxZmM=
Sep 13, 2008 - 3:47 am 153. 888:Jeff & LTMSmith: Again, you’re ill-informed. The reason McCain did not/does not support the latest iteration of the GI Bill is because it allows for military members to get full scholarship and other benefits after only serving 3 years in the military. This version also allows for those 3 years to be in non-combat billets, meaning that a 3-year desk job in South Dakota or Virginia can get a serviceman or woman a full scholarship without even having been in combat. This Bill is not only costly, but it also encourages military members to get out after only 3 years service. It is a great inducement by the liberals in Congress to gain the favors of the young veterans, but it is an unfair proposal. My father served 20 years in the Navy including on a patrol boat on the dangerous Mekong Delta during Vietnam. He’s 100% disabled from his service in the military and from having been sprayed all over his body with Agent Orange. He deserved his GI Bill, which he used to go to school after he retired. Webb’s GI Bill is not fair to those like my father and others who actually served, or are serving, in combat. That’s why McCain didn’t support the latest GI Bill. Get your facts straight before you try to discredit the honorable veteran.
Sep 13, 2008 - 5:40 am 154. Lisa:The Democrats always propose pork heavy bills for veterans and milatary knowing they will be voted down so they look good. They are very dishonorable. Just play political gotcha games with our milatary and veterans. Obama is in financial bed with Islamic terrorist groups. Plainly stated he is giving aid and comfort to our enemies. The news media including Allan are afraid to be called racist so they ignore the facts. What is more important your country or the democrat party? Over 90 percent of blacks are voteing for Obama. Are they not being racist? Yet when whites are not voteing for Obama then they are called racist. Wake up and see the manipulation of a dishonest Democrat party.
Sep 13, 2008 - 6:14 am 155. nw:mcain does use a keyboard and blackberry
so you are just bloody liars
Sep 13, 2008 - 8:37 am 156. nlcatter:you are morons _ I went to school on GI bill,
jsut like one Mccain wont support
as vietnam vet while you cowards dont sign up
and if the GIs were gung ho on Iraq war you wouldnt have to worry about them getting out!
Sep 13, 2008 - 8:40 am 157. nlcatter:honorable? what a laugh
cheating on crippled wife is not honorable!
when AMerican find out the truth they will laugh at him too,
Sep 13, 2008 - 8:42 am 158. nw:why dont you publish it! LoL
no 90% are not being racist,
i dont call whites voting for mccain racist
but I do call the right wing posters racist for spreading lies. which is YOU!
Sep 13, 2008 - 9:21 am 159. Ronetta:What does Obama and Bin Laden have in common?
They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon (William Ayers)
Just like the liberal left wing they always attack but never have answers. With do nothing leaders that each and every one of them are slimy lawyers like Pelosi and Reid. Of course Howard Dean and kerry etc. Obama that can not explain or prove anything he accomplished other than buying real estate from a convicted rackatier and briber Tony Rizio for ten cents on the dollar. With personal friends like Rev. Wright Farakhan Terrorist Bill Ayers and the communist party. They do not give me any confidence in a dangerious world. McCain and Palin are not lawyers but leaders and do have guts to put this country ahead of their personal ambitions.
Sep 13, 2008 - 10:28 am 160. Just Say No To FOX:It’s amazing. Vote for your platform by all means. But if you folks think you are gonna pretend that this country is better under the Republicans you are flat out lying to yourself. First of all you claim Obama has a so called socialist agenda. All union employees are socialist(police, fire, teachers, truckers, carpenters, hotel workers, ect.. All Lawyers,Doctors ie bar exam, med cert. These institutions were not always in place. Military,Postal workers, state and Govt jobs are also socialist concepts. You don’t even recognize socialism and you are a product of it.
The problem is you don’t recognize fascism either. We have a corrupt banking and tax system. We have a imperialistic approach toward the world. The National debt is at historic highs. Our military is stretched to thin. Our freedoms are the most restricted ever in our history, but ironically we have the best defenses. We have lost jobs overseas.( To the Voicer saying jobs leave because of Dems- Legislation allows companies to leave. We control what is sold to Americans. The largest global market. No company would leave America if we taxed them or refused their business. A Honda cost is 30% taxes. Get it.)
My point is I can careless who you vote for that is your right. But your information is so flawed is despicable. Why don’t you question Bush ties to Bin Laden. Why were they allowed to fly home? Why was Bin Laden a investor in the Bush oil business? Was 9/11 a family squabble? Was 9/11 a distraction to the stolen election? How was every thing so perfectly set up for that to happen. So many things went wrong that day and the months leading up to the tragedy. But you people still want these people to so called protect us. Oh yeah people the terrorist were from Saudi Arabia our pals. We are in Afghanistan and Iraq. Do you not smell globalization? That’s why they hate us we don’t have a freakin clue. It’s not our freedom it’s our fascism.
And then the idiots. Obama is not Arab. Did You see his father? He is as black as Kunta Kinte. That’s like saying Nicole Kidman is Arab. Ludicrous.
Eddie wails don’t ever use MLK to support your argument because you didn’t and don’t believe in what he stood for. It was more than civil rights. It was unjust war,womens rights, voting rights for new immigrants, unfair banking, fair wages.. Actually he and Obama are eerily similar.They are just voices of the movement not Messiahs. But I know, all you know about MLK is the black struggle. But that wasn’t half of what he did.
I hope all the working and middle class people in America really wake up and understand who is really for people and country. Stop letting the Right Wing scare you. They do not share your values. They only want your children to fight wars for profit. We are no safer. And screw the surge we should have not been there in the first place. Do you raise your kids to start fights then say “finish him off it’s the right thing since you stared the fight”. No. You raise your children to fight only if needed. So why the change in philosophy with other peoples kids?
Sep 13, 2008 - 10:52 am 161. Rev. Sam:Rev. Sam:
Sep 13, 2008 - 10:57 am 162. Paula:I am appalled and disgusted by the claim of Obama supporters that Jesus was a community organizer. Jesus Christ told people to trust in God not the government. I am very upset how the liberal media is comparing Obama to Jesus with a halo. This is total blasphemy and shows how low and evil these people are. Only a fool would vote for low life fraud like him
Obama
Sep 13, 2008 - 12:24 pm 163. Shelley:cant talk without a teleprompter. Who is telling him what to say? If you do not like him you are a racist. Let us just vote for who really is speaking through his telepromter. George Soros and middle east operatives
Jesus never was for infanicide either. Who would Jesus see as doing the Lord’s work? Killing babies versus giving babies a right to live. Hummmmmm. It all comes down to the destruction of values. The democrates have created more hate, distrust, and lack of respect for the American in this country. Their vile hate will never triumph over the good. Whether you like it or not, this country was founded on Godly principles and will forever be reigned by them. You talk about being against the war saying “don’t you know we have lost almost 4,000 US soldiers in seven years”, but you never seem to think of the over 3,500 innocent babies killed each DAY!! You tell me who are the evil ones.
Sep 13, 2008 - 12:39 pm 164. Paula:Shelly
Sep 13, 2008 - 2:32 pm 165. Paula:AMEN AMEN AMEN You said it all. I totally agree with you. Jesus christ said you will know them by their fruits. Kill steal and destroy. Abortion is God.
correction for above
Sep 13, 2008 - 6:34 pm 166. nw:Shelly
AMEN AMEN AMEN You said it all. I totally agree with you. Jesus christ said you will know them by their fruits. Kill steal and destroy. Abortion is THIER IDOL AND GOD
JC? oh you are pretty old to have talked to him personally/
wow
Sep 13, 2008 - 10:22 pm 167. Jeff:888 posted Sep 13, 2008 – 5:40 am,
You are the one who is misinformed, McCain voted AGAINST every bill in support of our troops fighting in both, Afghanistan and Iraq, from giving them more artillery and armor protection to providing them with more benefits when they return back home, wounded. I made no reference to Webb’s proposal so you are very unknowledgeable.
Oh and Ed, poor uneducated, misguided, and one track mind, Ed. Those other Jeffs in here are mere doppelgangers of me from the Right who are just as misguided as you are.
Sep 14, 2008 - 1:44 am 168. Jeff:I welcome everyone to do their own research on my post on Sep 12, 2008 – 6:59 pm.
Sep 14, 2008 - 1:46 am 169. Jeff:People, here are the facts about Barack Obama and William Ayers—
1) When William Ayers was a radical leftist who co-founded the Weatherman, committed heinous terrorist acts against the United States Capitol building and the Pentagon, his radical history was between 1968-1972. Here is his life story in Wikipedia below —
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
2) Between 1968-1972, Barack Obama was between ages 7-11 years old and did NOT know William Ayers. He was TOO YOUNG. Here is his life story in Wikipedia below —
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
3) Obama did not meet Ayers until 1995, 23 years after Ayers radical history. Obama was introduced to Ayers by Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer, as her chosen successor since she is stepping down from the Illinois state senate and running for Congress. Here is the story of the meeting in the link below —
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html
In closing, all these propagandas are false. Obama did not meet Ayers until 1995, as they ALL want to make people believe. Please do your own research before believing these ole timers. Obama’s proposal of “Change” for the better is a HUGE threat to them. They are all incapable of “Change” or even the slightest chance of accepting it. Think “Ed Wallis” in these posts. So here is my wisdom for everyone –
***Conservatism is the tired old need to hang on to the past while liberalism is a need for change for a brighter future.***
Sep 14, 2008 - 7:35 am 170. Denise:Some how I thought Obama was for change, but the more I hear from him the more I know that there is no change! Now McCain and Palin is change, you do not hear that they are sending out any one to dig up any thing bad on Obama. No Obama just has to open his mouth.
Sep 14, 2008 - 7:45 am 171. nw:Is that why Ayers is in Prison?
oh gee whiz he is NOT!
Sep 14, 2008 - 9:07 am 172. nw:sigh more lies by GOP morons to debunk!
1 100,000 for strip of land is NOT pennies on the dollar
2 he is not friends with Ayers as I am NOT your friend
3 can you spell Keating FIVE?
4 communist party? Joe Mcarthy I thought you were dead!
Sep 14, 2008 - 9:12 am 173. nw:Jesus at teh secular level WAS a community organizer!
that is a FACT
yeah vote agasist a family man and vote for one who abandon his wife
Sep 14, 2008 - 9:15 am 174. nw:guess you never heard the words
“let no man put asunder”
there is no teleprompter at his rallys around the country
you SHAGGING lying GOP!
and just wait until debates, Palin will die without a telepromter as she did w GIBSON
Sep 14, 2008 - 9:18 am 175. nw:and Mcain as he did with the VIEW.
Abortion? if you are one issue person vote for Mccain but w dems in congress nothing will change
your best bet is to get # abortions reduced
and under GOP they will go up
so you want MORE abortions? Vote GOP!
Sep 14, 2008 - 9:21 am 176. nlcatter:Jeff , you are a breath of fresh air amid GOP lies
I keep waiting for them to find a lie about Mccain !
Sep 14, 2008 - 9:23 am 177. Paula:Ayers and Obama met many times and he funded Obama. Rizio ia a middle eastern syrian who was Obama’s money man who bribed Obama for millions in grants for rehabilitation that was never done low cost houseing that were shut down for being unihabitable, Rizzio did sell Obama land for ten cents on the dollar. Obama past is filled with mafia racist communist muslim terrorist many anti american contacts. Who would you want as commander in chief in time of war? Obama the elitist who cries Racism when you disagree with his marxist thoughts or Mc Cain who does have a real set of balls and courage with a history of laying his life down for his country.
Sep 14, 2008 - 9:28 am 178. Wallace:I would put my trust in McCain any day. You can look him in the eyes and know he will do what he says. Obama looks like a deer in the headlights and can not look you in the eyes. He does not have any conviction. He reminds me of a puppet and some one is pulling the strings. As a combat veteran I have seen many under fire, Obama is the type who would cut and run away to save himself and leave the wounded. Simply said he is a elitist snob cry baby coward.
Sep 14, 2008 - 9:35 am 179. Jani Zuing:I am of mix race, there is no way I see McCain as a raciest! BUT Obama IS.
Sep 14, 2008 - 10:15 am 180. nick:All he can see is him self. I was out there helping and working for him but all he could say to me is,I was too white! That was more than enough me,I going with McCain
Freedom – you are shagging Liar
‘his half brother does not live on $12 a month
Sep 14, 2008 - 10:29 am 181. yang:to MR ? nw
Sep 14, 2008 - 10:40 am 182. nlcatter:You must not be a Christian, for to be one you would know with out a doubt that Jesus is the SON OF GOD. As a Christian my self I know that is so! Now for you and your messiah Obama , that the {dnc} Bowdon to every day. All I see from your messiah is bad news! Life is bad with your messiah , bad, bad, bad. Bad news Obama!
Oh oh,
Sep 14, 2008 - 10:56 am 183. WOW:the American Taliban are up and About!
Paula, Shelly and Denise
You are some really stupid ladies.
Paula said;”You talk about being against the war saying “don’t you know we have lost almost 4,000 US soldiers in seven years”, but you never seem to think of the over 3,500 innocent babies killed each DAY!! You tell me who are the evil ones.” The GOP and the GOP congress until 2006 should be the focus of your disgust.
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961)R
John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)D Assassinated after 2 years
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969)D from Texas
Richard Nixon (1969-1974)R
Gerald Ford (1974-1977)R
Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)D
Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)R
George Bush (1989-1993) R
Bill Clinton (1993-2001)D
George W. Bush (2001- )R
We have had 2 Democrat administrations in the past 55 years .
The congress just became a Dem majority 2 years ago.
We have A GOP supreme court.
So how it is the evil Dems? You guys are fools real fools. Were you guys home schooled? Stop watching FOX.
It’s Rezco not Rizio that shows your intelligence alone.
Where is your outrage for all the GOP questionable relationships. John McCain was just caught with a Con-Man.. The Bush Family and Bin laden Family go back 30 years.
http://freedocumentaries.org/theatre.php?filmid=42&id=802&wh=1000×720
I respect your vote but your info is so flawed it’s scary.
And Rev Sam Talking about fraud . You are running the biggest Racket since Taxation.
Tend to your sheep.
And Wallace you mean like Bush when he joined the Air National guard to avoid Vietnam? Not to mention getting pushed to the top of the list. 10 days prior to his draft lottery day.
It’s Amazing.
Sep 14, 2008 - 11:04 am 184. Pauline:Let us just simply ask the messiah Obama supporters to answer a very simple question
Sep 14, 2008 - 11:25 am 185. Pauline:What did HE do SPECIFICALLY as a “community organizer”? Name names, name projects specifically and what became of them. NOW, WE want to know something besides the nebulous platitudes about Barry that the media dares not question. The 0 in Obama stands for zero nada nothing. He has no accomplishments. His biggest is just being black.Obama went through college and Harvard funded by a unamed source which every one knows was a shaddy middle eastern man. Now the Islamic funders are wanting their return on theier investmant. Obama voted to kill aborted babies that survived the abortion as a senator. Obama is a messiah and a God to many. Jesus described him to a T Jesus said in John 8:44 “You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
Hey Wow The do nothing Democrat Senate and congress has a approval rateing of 8 per cent. The price of gas doubled under Pelosi leadership. I have sold more my cook books at the flea market than she has her book advertised by the loyal liberal Democrat media. No one wants her garbage or Harry Reid Obama or the Leftist Democrats. We are changing the Democrat party name to match Obama The 0 party run by granolas fruits and nuts. Sara Palin has more guts and testostarone than the entire left wing Demos
Sep 14, 2008 - 11:36 am 186. WOW:Elise
Human Events. Please. Just say Anne Coultor. That is the most Right Wing publication on Earth.
You know nothing about theology. The bible has been rewritten thousands of times. Even after Constintine. You simply lie to make a point. Your “God Fearing”? Sorry to tell you Jesus does not support Gov’t. Jesus broke a piece of bread from the loaf and passed it around. That sounds socialist to me. Jesus was against the GOP of his day. What do you learn from the scriptures? I think nothing. You sit with the book on your lap and let Rev. Sam interpret for you. Then sing songs that give you that warm and fuzzy feeling. Gimme a break ignoramus.
Then you go on to name names of so called corrupt Dems. Lets see the GOP
All of them stupid!
If you just started your political studies yesterday. Just keep Quiet and Vote. And leave out the Religious Rhetoric. Your no better than a Islamo fanatic.
Sep 14, 2008 - 11:50 am 187. WOW:Pauline;
I am happy you are successful. What do her book sales have to do with anything. You are all about distractions.
It has only been a Dem. congress for 2 years. The rating has declined since 2003. There was no spike up or down when the Dems got control.
The price of oil has risen since the invasion of Iraq. There is less oil output from Iraq. Besides Iraq being a OPEC member they sold oil independently. Not any more.
http://www.mees.com/Energy_Tables/crude-oil.htm
I will not insult Sarah or John. As you just did. But I will say we do not need another Lobby Driven War Mongering Administration.
Sep 14, 2008 - 12:36 pm 188. Rosalie:Wow
you must be a liberal Democrat. You are bitter judgemnetal a know it all and hate God. You sound like you are very bitter and lonely. The gay lifestyle that you are involved in is breaking your heart. Come out of the darkness and listen to Sara Palin for a few hours. She will give you a new joy and a happy face. democratic liberal doctrine can drive a person nuts. These scritures are prophetic of Obam and the current Democrat Party
(2 Tim 3:1 NKJV) But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:
(2 Tim 3:2 NKJV) For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(2 Tim 3:3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
(2 Tim 3:4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
(2 Tim 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
Drill Now
Sep 14, 2008 - 4:37 pm 189. Shanna:Obama’s female staffers shortchanged He’s no great equalizer
By Deroy Murdock | Saturday, September 13, 2008 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Op-Ed
“Now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day’s work,” Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Aug. 28 in his convention acceptance speech. He told the crowd in Denver: “I want my daughters to have exactly the same opportunities as your sons.”
Obama’s campaign Web site is even more specific. Under the heading “Fighting for Pay Equity,” the women’s issues page laments that, “Despite decades of progress, women still make only 77 cents for every dollar a man makes. A recent study estimates it will take another 47 years for women to close the wage gap with men at Fortune 500 corporate offices. Barack Obama believes the government needs to take steps to better enforce the Equal Pay Act.”
Obama’s commitment to federally mandated pay equity stretches from the Rockies to Wall Street and beyond. And yet it seems to have eluded his U.S. Senate office. Compensation figures for his legislative staff reveal that the Illinois senator pays women just 83 cents for every dollar his men make.
A watchdog group called LegiStorm posts on the Internet the salaries for Capitol Hill staffers.
“We have no political affiliations and no political purpose except to make the workings of Congress as transparent as possible,” its Web site explains. Parsing LegiStorm’s official data, gleaned from the secretary of the Senate, offers a fascinating glimpse at pay equity in the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body.
The most recent statistics are for the half-year from Oct. 1, 2007, to March 31, 2008, excluding interns and focusing on full-time personnel.
For someone who worked only until, say, last Feb. 29, extrapolating up to six months’ service simplifies this analysis. Doubling these half-year figures illustrates how a year’s worth of Senate employees’ paychecks should look.
Based on these calculations, Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397.
Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.
Why this disparity? One reason may be the under-representation of women in Obama’s highest-compensated ranks. Among Obama’s five best-paid advisers, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.
Again, on average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make. This figure certainly exceeds the 77-cent threshold that Obama’s campaign Web site condemns. However, 83 cents do not equal $1. In spite of this 17-cent gap between Obama’s rhetoric and reality, he chose to chide GOP presidential contender John McCain on this issue.
Obama responded Aug. 31 to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s Republican vice-presidential nomination. Palin “seems like a very engaging person,” Obama told voters in Toledo, Ohio. “But I’ve got to say, she’s opposed – like John McCain is – to equal pay for equal work. That doesn’t make much sense to me.”
Obama’s criticism notwithstanding, McCain’s payment patterns are the stuff of feminist dreams.
McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.
On average, according to these data, women in McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, all other things being equal, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart – while adding $10,726 to her annual income – by leaving Obama’s office and going to work for McCain.
How could this be?
One explanation could be that women compose a majority of McCain’s highest-paid aides. Among his top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women. The Republican presidential nominee relies on women – much more than men – for advice at the highest, and thus, best-paid levels.
If anyone on McCain’s Senate staff is unhappy, McCain’s male staffers might complain that they seem to get a slightly raw deal.
In short, these statistics suggest that McCain is more than fair with his female employees, while Obama – at the expense of the women who work for him – quietly perpetuates the very same pay-equity divide that he loudly denounces.
Of all people, the Democratic standard bearer should understand that equal pay begins at home.
Sep 14, 2008 - 5:12 pm 190. JOEANN:I went to see Palin in Alaska boy!! She was Wonderful!!
Sep 14, 2008 - 5:21 pm 191. Shelby:I and all of my Family will Vote for McCain and Palin.
We always voted Democrat, but this time we are going to vote for McCain. Even my 2 sisters who loved Hillary will With me vote McCain.
How I love them, now we will vote for change!
GO McCain and Palin
Sep 14, 2008 - 5:29 pm 192. Hussein:Please tell me where can I find honest imformation about what Obama actually did and accomplished? I hear many say he was a community organizer. Where did he get the money to buy a house on that payroll. Where is the media to investigate him or his lack of experiance. The media is in bed with the democrat party and George Soros. I was a democrat for 46 years but enough is enough I wll not support a anti american traitor. We must drill for oil. and build nuclear power. the Democratics sold out to the enemy
Sep 14, 2008 - 6:41 pm 193. Jasemin:After reading the above post about paying woman less I am disgusted. That lieing hypocrite Obama. My husband was right He said that Obama looks like he can not look you in the eyes. And he said Obama lies always. My husband is a Chicago police inspector in the vice squad. Now I do believe the stories he told me about bath house Obama. If he was exposed here what else is he lieing about. After dumping Hilliary I am voteing for Sara and John
Sep 14, 2008 - 7:28 pm 194. nlcatter:1 hey moron, is John and sarah
2 your vice cop is on the Take!
3 tell it to Hillary, she would tell you
Sep 14, 2008 - 10:12 pm 195. WOW:dont want change you want status quo
Jezebel-Jasmine
Read your post. You make no political argument. You just say my husband told me…. What do you know? But you attack me for having information that is Factual. Compared to you I do know it all. Pea brain.
And Gay? I probably gave you the best night of your life. I am a fully Functioning straight man. With a large loving family and plenty of friends.
You sound like a person who has been indoctrinated into the Conquistadors Catholicism that raped and killed your ancestors. Oh my how they roll in there graves. Religion is a Fraud.
You are just a brainwashed sheep. What is your education level? You can take classes online.
Do me a favor. Write down your political views then match them to the candidates. Then maybe you will at least make a educated decision. No matter who you vote for.
Where did you learn politics? Listening to a stump speech.
And for all the Dem haters. The GOP has been in power and have caused this debt laden, war mongering America.
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961)R
John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)D Assassinated after 2 years
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969)D from Texas
Richard Nixon (1969-1974)R
Gerald Ford (1974-1977)R
Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)D
Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)R
George Bush (1989-1993) R
Bill Clinton (1993-2001)D
George W. Bush (2001- )R
We have had 2 Democrat administrations in the past 55 years .
The congress just became a Dem majority 2 years ago.
We have A GOP supreme court.
But it’s the evil Dems
Do you want a peoples president or a corporate president? It’s that simple.
And just for your information. Drlling won’t help. We need refiner’s It doesn’t matter if the oil is in the ground or tank. You can’t produce petroleum products without refining. That shows the level of thought most of you people have. Minimal. US refining capacity is at 100% dimwits. That’s why drilling is irrelevant. We know where the oil is. In its natural tanks till ready for use(refined).
Now lets get to real issues. Can we build a Nuke plant in your yard or a oil refinery.
I never comment when a GOP supporter actually states real political opinion.I can understand if you are in the tax bracket that will pay more. Or you will lose your corporate tax breaks.Or you believe in occupation of sovereign nations. I respect that. But all the misinformed are disgusting.
Sep 15, 2008 - 2:30 am 196. Agnes:Obama’s Mentors and beast friends are enemies of you and I and America. It is obvious who is typing the words into his teleprompter.
Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. In the late sixties, both were presented rings from the North Vietnamese. Ayers got his in Canada. I forget where Bernardine Dohrn got hers, but the rings were made from US aircraft shot down by the North Vietnamese.
You think Jane Fonda was bad, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the mentors of Barack Obama, received rings for their anti-American work! And, in fact, the Cubans allowed Bernardine Dohrn to establish a Students for Democrat Society operation based out of Cuba. So about these rings, for their fingers, made from US aircraft shot down over North Vietnam — when Bill Ayers received his ring from the North Vietnamese in Canada, he had to leave the room in tears. He was so moved by the gesture, he said that he realized he was living in evil — the United States — and that he was in the belly of the beast. It wasn’t just 40 years ago that Bill Ayers tried to blow up some buildings. It wasn’t just 40 years ago that he was moved to tears with a gift of a ring from the North Vietnamese. And yet, Obama says, “Well, you can’t hold a guy engaging in this stuff 40 years ago.” Ayers still has the same mind-set about his country. These people are desperate.
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Obama’s Mentors and beast friends are enemies of you and I and America. It is obvious who is typing the words into his teleprompter.
Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. In the late sixties, both were presented rings from the North Vietnamese. Ayers got his in Canada. I forget where Bernardine Dohrn got hers, but the rings were made from US aircraft shot down by the North Vietnamese.
You think Jane Fonda was bad, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the mentors of Barack Obama, received rings for their anti-American work! And, in fact, the Cubans allowed Bernardine Dohrn to establish a Students for Democrat Society operation based out of Cuba. So about these rings, for their fingers, made from US aircraft shot down over North Vietnam — when Bill Ayers received his ring from the North Vietnamese in Canada, he had to leave the room in tears. He was so moved by the gesture, he said that he realized he was living in evil — the United States — and that he was in the belly of the beast. It wasn’t just 40 years ago that Bill Ayers tried to blow up some buildings. It wasn’t just 40 years ago that he was moved to tears with a gift of a ring from the North Vietnamese. And yet, Obama says, “Well, you can’t hold a guy engaging in this stuff 40 years ago.” Ayers still has the same mind-set about his country. These people are desperate.
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I agree, whole-heartedly, and am somewhat surprised this point hasn’t been raised more yet. As many differences can be drawn between the 3 remaining presidential candidates, people are pretty mum on the fact Obama arguably represents the first post-boomer candidate to make it this far (depending on where one argues the boomer birth year span ends). Technology is moving so much faster than politics, and I have to imagine leader of the free world is a somewhat high-tech gig. “The Internets” have absolutely had a profound impact on the way the younger generations think, the way we take information in and process it. W would come across as more of a tech-dinosaur if he hadn’t come on so strongly as a complete idiot in all things past, present and future. McCain in the White House conjures images of the late Phil Hartman’s SNL character, ‘Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer’ (who, upon a quick wikipedia check, apparently also ran for President). It’s not an ageism thing as much as it’s a job qualification thing, and the exponential evolution of technology shapes the reality we live in. I, especially after the past 8 years, would greatly appreciate a President from somewhere closer to the reality we live in.
Posted by: Bacon on 03/24/08 at 12:45 PM
I guess the McCains are a “twofer,” because without his wife, McCain’s 3 am call will be a 12-year-old reluctantly getting back to him about how to print out a document.
Posted by: JP on 03/24/08 at 12:46 PM
Mcpain is an idiot through and through.
I guess that makes him a natural for the job.
Posted by: RTMAN on 03/24/08 at 5:32 PM
McCain is not suitable for his current office and he will never be anywhere close to being a suitable candidate for the Oval Office.
Posted by: Gord Metcalfe on 03/25/08 at 4:42 AM
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beetch and moan about the old guy who can’t navigate the computer. So friggin’ what? Rest assured that when you’re his age, and someone of your generation runs for President, there will be younger wits pizzing and moaning about how out of touch your generation is with current technology. Bet the ranch on it.
Posted by: Tim1979 on 03/25/08 at 1:42 PM
You still print out documents? Perhaps you’re the one a little behind the times…..
Posted by: Tim1979 on 03/25/08 at 1:45 PM
Cut John McCain some slack. He might not know how to use a computer– but how many of you out there know where all the great early bird specials are?
Posted by: Mac2 on 03/31/08 at 7:10 PM
The problem is the media hasn’t made an issue of it. Not just McCain, look at all the really old senators and congressmen we have. Why do we trust the country to people that may be senile!?
And they don’t really understand tech; many are so far behind the times.
Posted by: I’veSaidItBefore! on 06/11/08 at 11:33 AM
My grandmother is 82 and loves youtube. If she can surf the net, there’s no reason someone vying for the presidency shouldn’t.
Posted by: PATina on 06/11/08 at 6:04 PM
This wouldn’t be a problem if it weren’t for the fact that all these old people, most of whom know little about technology, are trying to legislate the internet.
Posted by: stuff on 06/11/08 at 7:00 PM
As all information and news are today on the internet and available thanks to technology, you can imagine how informed this man is about what is going on in the world. Do not trust to somebody who is unable to find basic information himself and moreover obviously cannot understand the role of technology in our world and future.
Posted by: Lucie on 06/12/08 at 7:53 AM
OK, he can’t use a computer. The most important question is, can he wipe his own butt without assistance. That, to me, is one of the major qualifications in a presidential candidate.
Posted by: Harryfreeloader on 06/12/08 at 9:05 AM
This lack of technical ability is just an indicator of his ignorance off science and technology in general. He has refused to participate in the ScienceDebate 2000 dabate that is being sponsored by the organization of the same name. This organization is supported by Noble lauriates, members of the American Academy of Science and may other respected associations of scientists. Science is the key to the future welfare of our country.
Posted by: hal on 06/13/08 at 9:49 PM
McCain’s lack of computer skills and knowledge is crucial to him NOT being qualified to be President in this modern world. It has absolutely nothing to do with knowing how to use Google or a Blackberry. Much of this country’s business, security, and infrastructure is WIRED. You CANNOT lead in the 21st century without understanding all the underlying issues behind eComerce, digital security (both corporate and national) and all the electrical, telecommunication, transportation, nuclear systems and even educational issues that rely on broadband (wired and wireless) communication. It has been well documented that terrorism’s next intended target includes these systems. How can you even comprehend how to defend against that when you don’t understand the technology or the impact of such an attack?
Having John McCain as a candidate is like having a caveman running for modern day office.
Posted by: MartaK on 06/26/08 at 6:05 AM
I never did think Ted Stevens could walk and chew gum at the same time.
Most of the Neanderthal Republicans think that the internet is the work of the devil, except, of course, for Larry Craig.
Posted by: Gary Roseman on 07/07/08 at 5:52 AM
Nice work, Jonathan!
Frank Rich linked to you in his column in The New York Times!
Posted by: js on 07/07/08 at 9:10 AM
Thanks Frank Rich, that’s how I found it..why isn’t this on youtube for mass consumption!
Posted by: AW on 07/07/08 at 11:46 AM
McCain’s favorite film is Viva Zapata?
Posted by: Valkerstein on 07/07/08 at 3:14 PM
McCain’s favorite film is Viva Zapata? Really, Zapata?
Posted by: Valkerstein on 07/07/08 at 3:15 PM
Yes, Viva Zapata, a film made 56 years ago, starring Marlon Brando, Jean Peters and Anthony Quinn, all of whom are now dead and gone — much like John McCain’s chances of ever being President.
Posted by: Michael Day on 07/08/08 at 6:11 AM
Big whoop. McCain doesn’t use computers. Neither did um… 40 or more other presidents?
Posted by: Ben Mordecai on 07/08/08 at 8:20 AM
the lack of computer knowlage shows major problem’s for a presidentual canidate… the refusal to change, the lack of ability to lern, the lack of ability to creat a simple document that a president will have to creat during his term at some point and the extra cost going to some one to creat documents and help out with any computer needs of McCain
Posted by: Happy on 07/08/08 at 12:11 PM
Of course, part of the problem for Obama is that a significant segment of the public is only marginally computer literate, and so McCain will get sympathy votes from the technophobes. The president has staff people to do virtually all the mundane stuff, including keeping his calendar, answering his mail and Googling for information he might need. I’m more appalled with McCain’s lack of understanding of economics, which permeates all government policy, from tax policy to energy policy, from unemployment to global warming, from foreign aid to waging war. I’m not an economist and my knowledge of economics is limited, but if I were thinking about running for any public office, I’d take a course or two in basic economic theory just so I could speak somewhat intelligently on the subject. This is another area in which McCain = Bush (I hope I don’t get cited for that last equation, like the little old lady librarian in Colorado).
Posted by: lawyerfan on 07/09/08 at 12:35 PM
McCain is not unique in this regard. Many of the over 50s crowd are even afraid to touch computers. As a pretty much defunct typing teacher, I’ve watched the age of computers creep upon us. If I were not in the field, I certainly would not know as much as I do but for continuous training by the company. I’ve been through the typing with carbon era, electronic typewriters, mag-card, vydec, then syntrecs, and finally various versions of the PC. Where my bosses were not able to even type with two finger, I find that the new group of professionals can pretty much do their own work and are encouraged by the firm to do so. The new computer kids know more about computers than I. This is a little unnerving and I can say with relief that I am glad retirement is just around the corner as my job as I know it most certainly will be phased away. So, for the olsters out there including McCain, have the whiz kids do the computer work for you
Posted by: carrisima on 07/09/08 at 2:03 PM
I am not one bit surprised! Knowing nothing is a prerequisite for holding any office in government. Just say yes to the man with the money! Osama Obama is no different. Your article implies that there is a choice. Got news for you, no choice with the vote, same old same old! Just don’t bother to vote, why give them any confidence?
Posted by: Richard Neva on 07/09/08 at 2:37 PM
At his age and level of political seniority, McCain (or any of the other high-profile aspirants for President or high DC office) rarely do things directly. Instead, they and most leaders of large organizations get other people to do things for them and in their name. The systems these people know well are the political systems that apply to them, and the system of motivations that can get other people to do something for them. Who needs to be nerdy when he can hire (or better yet, hold something over) the top nerds in whatever field is currently of interest?
This is why it is almost axiomatic that the guys at the top almost never cop to knowing how to use tech of the day. For most people, professing tech skills gains status among their peers. For politicians and other “great leaders,” such skills are considered eccentricities and irrelevancies, which can actually lose status within the peer group, if not carefully spun. What gains status is having a large staff to advise them or do it for them. So the proper question isn’t “what can he do,” but “who’s on his staff” and “who can he tap”? (I realize that the last question has multiple meanings, and I suppose that they are all apt when discussing Presidential candidates, these days…
Posted by: James Anderson Merritt on 07/09/08 at 3:02 PM
I just wanted to clarify that, in saying “the systems these people know well…,” above, I was referring to the high-level leaders, not to the people that help or advise them.
Frankly, before we accuse people of incompetence on the basis of their not being able to use a computer, I think we should first disqualify them for not writing their own speeches. On the other hand, if they don’t know how to do that, and must hire speechwriters and pollseters to put words in their mouths, does it really matter that they also need to have people’s help when using a keyboard or using “the Google”?
Posted by: James Anderson Merritt on 07/09/08 at 3:08 PM
Richard Neva suggests: Just don’t bother to vote, why give them any confidence?
I suggest: Shake what confidence they might otherwise get.
Vote for every third party or independent candidate on the ballot and scare the sh!t out of ‘em!
As to McCain using a computer: Who Cares!?!?
Whoever is president will have scores of staffers doing all that busy-work and spoon feeding him what he needs to see anyway.
He just has to watch out for the one under the desk in the Oral Office.
That one can spell REAL trouble!
Posted by: DemoPublicans One And All on 07/09/08 at 5:32 PM
Yeah, and they will want someone younger and more tech savvy to lead their country, just like we want. And they will be right.
Posted by: Maggie on 07/09/08 at 7:50 PM
“Many of the over 50s crowd are even afraid to touch computers.”
I disagree. Some of us may not be able to type super fast, but don’t lump us all into luditeville. Most of our age bracket (50/60) are not afraid to use computers. Mr. McCain is over our age bracket and I don’t feel that he can be flexible enough for the times. I am not voting for McCain, period. His lack of computer skills have nothing to do with it: his kissing up to W convinced me that we would have 4 more years of bushwhacking.
Posted by: canlekat on 07/10/08 at 12:03 AM
Your spelling,punctuation,and lack of attention to detail, are a clear sign to me that you are not one who is in a position to judge another man’s qualifications. I think that McCain’s a senile drongo, but I’m not a doctor………
Posted by: Canby Obtuze on 07/10/08 at 2:59 AM
Considering that America RE-elected a gormless n’er do well – after he led them into a ridiculous war to secure oil agreements for his family business, at the cost of young American lads: I am almost holding my breath as I watch on PBS and CNN,CBS and ABC; what a fabulous waste of time and money. I love it…
Posted by: dedsetmad on 07/10/08 at 3:21 AM
What would any President do with a computer?
The first thing our security does when an individual takes that office is to take away their cell phone and their computer. These are highly sensitive cache’s of information which can be hacked, monitored, and GPS co-ordinated.
The tech savy who comment on this story reveal they are political outsiders who apart from their sheer emotions, which are an expression of self and which casually and recklessly steer the commentator’s here off the topic of any President’s need for computer literacy. Apparently knowing little beyond emotions and insults as tools to dialogue with while complaining that others don’t use a computer to dialogue with.
Posted by: Airborn on 07/10/08 at 1:08 PM
Jesus, Mary and the Donkey!!
This is the best the Republican Party has to offer???
Pathetic!
Posted by: Beverly S. Hill on 07/12/08 at 4:59 PM
you can bet your ass i won’t be running for president in my golden years!!! I’ll be too busy trying to keep that Dennis kid next door out of my vegetable garden!!!
Posted by: zedkitty on 07/15/08 at 9:17 PM
Beverly S. Hill aska: “This is the best the Republican Party has to offer???”
Actually, no.
But just as with the Democratic wing of our single Oligarchy Party, this is what the Elite of the party has decided to feed us.
Just as with the Democratic wing, this is the character the Elite have calculated they can best control, and keep in line, thereby preserving their own controlling interests.
Posted by: DemoPublicans One And All on 07/16/08 at 9:43 AM
DemoPublicans One And All—“But just as with the Democratic wing of our single Oligarchy Party, this is what the Elite of the party has decided to feed us. Just as with the Democratic wing, this is the character the Elite have calculated they can best control, and keep in line, thereby preserving their own controlling interests.”
Don’t tell that to these dyed-in-wool-I-think-Obama-is-God Demos. If you’re not for him, you’re a racist. I got called one this morning because of Obama’s voting stance on the FISA bill. He hasn’t even received the official party nomination and he’s already selling us out. I said I don’t think he’s “qualified” for president and Cynthia McKinney wasn’t either. Because I named two of the three candidates stating, in my opinion, that they are not “qualified,” and because they just happen to be black, I am now “officially” a racist, even though my main point was “qualification” and not race. I guess because I don’t like John McCain either—and he’s white—that it’s OK to say HE’S not “qualified.” McCain comes across as arrogant as GWB. He acts as though he knows for a fact he’ll occupy the White House next year and that it’s already been settled. Something’s wrong here.
Posted by: harryfreeloader on 07/16/08 at 12:11 PM
You have the nerve to criticize John McCain, you can’t even spell correctly. Learn how to use a dictionary!
Posted by: smc341 on 07/20/08 at 12:39 AM
Having John McCain be a nominee for president is truly a disgrace to the intelligence of every human being in the USA. He has no clue on anything at all…he says negative things about his opponent which a 4 year old child would say…he makes what he thinks are jokes that even a child would not laugh at. He gives a speech and everyone is sooo bored because never anything regarding the issues is said. The media does not follow him around because of the above.
This man in my book is a sorry individual in any walk of life…my question is how in “God’s” name did this guy get where he is today?
He reminds me of Don Rickles who turns me off too bigtime…trying to be funny,but no one likes his jokes which are sooo stupid.
Obama is not my choice anymore either…as he has recently shown he is one of the others also…flip flopping to suit the occasion he is speaking at.
I am now an independent…and writing in “Jesse Ventura”…he is not shy and tells the truth.
Posted by: Ronald McDonald on 08/02/08 at 1:19 AM
You have the nerve to criticize John McCain, you can’t even spell correctly.
Posted by: hekimboard on 08/02/08 at 2:16 AM
LOL do you really qualify a person for President by the ability to play WoW or cruise through UTube? Even if they could, do you really think a president has the time?
Get real
Posted by: Susan R on 08/06/08 at 8:08 AM
Nice video, thanks.
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Posted by: kpss cd on 08/19/08 at 5:51 PM
Today there are numerous independently owned and operated concierge companies. Many of these companies provide errand services, as well as informational services for their members. Services include informational requests, setting dinner reservations, making telephone calls, researching travel arrangements and more. Typically, concierge companies will bill on an hourly rate, and depending upon the type of task at hand fees can fluctuate drastically. Other companies have reinvented the business model by billing a flat monthly fee based upon the number of requests a member is allowed to place each month. The number of independently owned concierge companies has skyrocketed as the start up costs and barriers of entry are quite feasible for many entrepreneurs. Concierges also entertain their clients.
Posted by: Conciant on 08/21/08 at 11:05 PM
It would seem that at least some of those complaining about McCain’s ability to use a computer DON’T KNOW HOW TO USE SPELLCHECKER!
Posted by: TedEbayer on 08/22/08 at 3:06 PM
Funny sh*t, huh? McCain can’t type due to the injuries from when he had his arms broken by the north vietnamese, keep laughing, you a-holes don’t deserve him as president.
Posted by: Danny on 09/12/08 at 4:09 PM
YOU IDIOTS>>>>look on drudge report…mccain is physically unable to use a computer do to his war injuries….wow just wow
Posted by: wow on 09/12/08 at 5:19 PM
“MCCAIN’S SEVERE WAR INJURIES PREVENT HIM FROM COMBING HIS HAIR, TYPING ON A KEYBOARD, OR TYING HIS SHOES.”
BOSTON GLOBE ON 3/4/2000
Posted by: a.m. young on 09/12/08 at 5:58 PM
HE CAN’T TYPE BECAUSE OF HIS WAR INJURIES YOU MORONS!
Wondering No More [Jonah Goldberg]
Yep. The day after 9/11, as part of its “get tough” makeover, the Obama campaign is mocking John McCain for not using a computer, without caring why he doesn’t use a computer. From the AP story about the computer illiterate ad:
“Our economy wouldn’t survive without the Internet, and cyber-security continues to represent one our most serious national security threats,” [Obama spokesman Dan] Pfeiffer said. “It’s extraordinary that someone who wants to be our president and our commander in chief doesn’t know how to send an e-mail.”
Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by “extraordinary.” The reason he doesn’t send email is that he can’t use a keyboard because of the relentless beatings he received from the Viet Cong in service to our country. From the Boston Globe (March 4, 2000):
McCain gets emotional at the mention of military families needing food stamps or veterans lacking health care. The outrage comes from inside: McCain’s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Friends marvel at McCain’s encyclopedic knowledge of sports. He’s an avid fan – Ted Williams is his hero – but he can’t raise his arm above his shoulder to throw a baseball.
Posted by: Eliza Taylor on 09/12/08 at 6:08 PM
McCain was injured and tortured as a POW during the war. Fighting and nearly died for a bunch of ungratefull selfish little wimps who can sit a home hiding behind their computers. Shame on you. I also am a disabled Veteran who suffers in severe pain every day. The hope is some group of young people would learn to appreciate the generation that made their freedom possible.
The news media or a coward like Obama never fought bleed or suffered for you.
Thank God their are young men and woman who are serveing honorable for their nation. Obama is a disgusting piece of garbage for posting his ad. A pox on him and his slimy campaign
Posted by: USMC on 09/12/08 at 6:13 PM
McCain was injured and tortured as a POW during the war. His disability prevents him from typing.Fighting and nearly died for a bunch of ungratefull selfish little wimps who can sit a home hiding behind their computers. Shame on you. I also am a disabled Veteran who suffers in severe pain every day. The hope is some group of young people would learn to appreciate the generation that made their freedom possible.
The news media or a coward like Obama never fought bleed or suffered for you.
Thank God their are young men and woman who are serveing honorable for their nation. Obama is a disgusting piece of garbage for posting his ad. A pox on him and his slimy campaign
Posted by: USMC on 09/12/08 at 6:15 PM
I do apoligize for mocking McCain. You are right Obama is a disgusting piece of dung for attacking a hero and a combat disabled veteran. I and my family hang our head is shame that we supported that coward. We will vote for McCain and we are sending him a contribution now. What kind of low life communist pig could attack a hero like that
Posted by: Ralph on 09/12/08 at 6:22 PM
I am ashamed of Obama that he would mock and ridicule a hero and disabled war time veteran’s injuries and disability. I guess he is the stupid idiot who could have checked out Mc Cains injuries befor his sick perveted commercial. I do not want Obama as my Presaident with his poor judgement
Posted by: Jinny on 09/12/08 at 6:27 PM
Being a vet myself, I have a lot of friends who got hurt in Vietnam. Some are in wheelchairs, but they still use the Internet. McCain doesn’t bother with it because he doesn’t have to. He’s got plenty of people to use it for him, including some of those who sent up these last few posts. I don’t believe for one minute that a former marine posts here to shame all these McCain mocking liberals. And I’m not fooled one bit by Ralph’s “apology.” Come off it. McCain is grabbing at straws, and these tactics are just as hollow.
Posted by: smitisan on 09/12/08 at 7:54 PM
Obama has the audacity to mock McCain for the disabled state he is left in from his POW treatment on the same day he questions his patriotism?
You people are scum. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Roark on 09/12/08 at 7:56 PM
McCain was playing with technology that most of you can’t even dream of, before most of you were even born. Remember he was a navy fighter pilot. And flew one of the coolest plane ever built! They don’t let idiots become fighter pilots. But anyone can become president of USA. Even someone who has done nothing to prove them self or done anything meaningful for our nation.Such as a first time senator from the mid west.
Posted by: gary on 09/12/08 at 8:13 PM
You’re mocking a combat vet for his handicap. The guy can’t tie his shoelaces or comb his hair either — what an idiot, eh? How out of touch he must be.
When this was posted, I’ll guess you didn’t know the full extent of his pain.
Now you do.
Fix it please.
Posted by: enrique on 09/13/08 at 12:58 AM
This is about right. Since 2000 it has been reported that McCain cannot type because of his injuries.
I hear Obama challenged McCain to a one on one hoops game.
And then HORSE.
That ought to be a laugh, huh?
Then Obama will take on a five quadriplegic vets in full court bball.
Posted by: drjohn on 09/13/08 at 6:35 AM
Shame, shame. Mr. McCain cannot be blamed for his physical disabilities. Other notable American presidents have had physical disabilities, ie: John Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
I work in special education, and let me say…I get so tired of people looking only at a physical disability instead of the whole person.
Posted by: ncgma on 09/13/08 at 7:59 AM
The ad comments on the fact that McCain doesn’t KNOW how to send an email or use a computer. While he might not be able to, that isn’t what the ad is claiming. The ability to do so vs. the knowledge to do so is different. The fact still remains: he doesn’t KNOW how to use a computer or send an email. Once again, people are missing the point. While I think it’s ridiculous in this day and age, he’s so old and out of touch I honestly don’t expect him to know this. It’s probably reason number 402 why he shouldn’t be president. There are many other issues that are ahead of this one but you can add it to the long list of why he shouldn’t be president. Anyone that likes McCain really better like Palin since she will be running the country when he kicks it. McCain is so old he should not be buying green bananas.
Posted by: al on 09/13/08 at 8:25 AM
al states: While he might not be able to, that isn’t what the ad is claiming. The ability to do so vs. the knowledge to do so is different. The fact still remains: he doesn’t KNOW how to use a computer or send an email. Once again, people are missing the point.
So al, how many things have you bothered to learn how to do that you aren’t physically able to do?
You are intimately familiar with how to do any number of things that you aren’t able to do, and so we should expect the same of John McCain.
Is that the point we’re all missing?
Somehow, I tend to doubt that you’ve wasted your time learning how to do things you can’t do, and if you’re holding elected office and wasted your time in such fashion, then you should definitely refund your salary to the taxpayers you’ve been ripping off.
Posted by: Not al on 09/13/08 at 10:26 AM
drjohn reports: I hear Obama challenged McCain to a one on one hoops game.
Obama doesn’t have the cojones to challenge Sarah Palin to a game, and he’d get his a$$ handed to him if he did.
She’d make him look like the white man he really is.
Posted by: Dr. Feelgood on 09/13/08 at 11:14 AM
McCain can’t use a computer because of his war injuries.
A Boston Globe report eight years ago cited by the National Review’s Jonah Goldberg said McCain’s “severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes
Posted by: danaa on 09/13/08 at 11:52 AM
McCain is smart enough to fly a multi-million dollar jet while Obama does not have enough brains to turn it on!!! All I hear is Obama going uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and he graduated from Harvard!!!!!!! Obama has to have 300 advisors to write his speeches and he is no good at it without a teleprompter!!!!!!! Now who do the Liberal Democratic defenders and Obama say is illiterate now???? When you liberals out there are pointing at McCain remember you have 4 of your own fingers pointing back at you
Posted by: George on 09/13/08 at 12:21 PM
I note that there are plenty of images of McCain using a cell phone. So limitation to reach and two-hand dexterity are different than the inability to hit a key with a finger. Even less true of inability to move a computer mouse and click a button. I find this “prison camp” defense of McCain’s deliberate elitist attitude (”I’ll have my people do it for me”) unconvincing–it’s just another attempt to attack Obama emotionally, since facts are not McCain’s friend.
Posted by: Warren in Miami on 09/13/08 at 4:54 PM
George said “McCain is smart enough to fly a multi-million dollar jet . . .”
And Gary said “McCain was playing with technology that most of you can’t even dream of, before most of you were even born. Remember he was a navy fighter pilot. And flew one of the coolest plane ever built!”
Yeah, and crashed five of them. Hey, if you were the son of an admiral, they’d let you fly them too, even after the first four, even after you graduated at the bottom of your class.
Posted by: smitisan on 09/13/08 at 8:35 PM
“McCain gets emotional at the mention of military families needing food stamps or veterans lacking health care. The outrage comes from inside: McCain’s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. Friends marvel at McCain’s encyclopedic knowledge of sports. He’s an avid fan – Ted Williams is his hero – but he can’t raise his arm above his shoulder to throw a baseball.”
Do your research.
http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml
Posted by: Jessica Benjamin on 09/14/08 at 4:58 AM
I can’t believe the amount of ignorance being displayed here by those that are so ‘tech savvy’. McCain can’t email? So what? Do any of you ’sharpies’ know why? I’ll tell you – it’s for the same reason he can’t lift his arms over his shoulders in some positions. His body endured horrible torture and bone breakage in ‘Nam and he’s physically unable to type. Furthermore, how many of you ‘cerebral giants’ know that a President isn’t allowed to use email? It’s for security and the Pres is prohibited from any emailing. Kudos to McCain for having the class to forego responding to such a despicable campaign ad.
Posted by: Robert on 09/14/08 at 8:12 AM
Obama is a low life piece of trash. I am a 100% disabled combat veteran who suffers in pain. It does hurt to sit at a keyboard and I do get severe muscle spasams. McCain was injured serveing you. Obama has served only himself. are you so hard hearted and selfish that you can make your arrogant snide remarks about McCain. Let this country come under an attack from foriegn power Who will you trust to defend this country and you? Obama is a coward who can not even talk without sttutering. I am very disapointed in many of you who can not honor a man who laid his life down for you and country
Posted by: Bob on 09/14/08 at 8:37 AM
I would rather have a commander in chief who can not type but has a set balls then one who whines and crys Raceism when you disagree with his marxist thoughts. He cant even speak fluidly with out a bunch of umms. The eleprompter is his only way to speak clearly and thoese words are coming from some one else. Obama past is filled with unsavory people. From anti white racist middle eastern terrorist to mafia and muslim anti american. Thank God for the 2nd amendmant. It was designed for us to protect you in case a Obama came into power.
Posted by: Mary on 09/14/08 at 9:00 AM
Guess you wpuldn’t have liked FDR since he couldn’t walk….
Posted by: mike on 09/14/08 at 11:30 AM
I like McCain even less after he picked Palin.
Posted by: marty on 09/14/08 at 4:15 PM
All the whining I hear is coming from the McCain campaign and its buds. You know, you can paint POW with lipstick all over a self-serving pig, and he’s still a pig. Do I make you sick? Good. It’s payback time.
Posted by: smitisan on 09/14/08 at 6:06 PM
Smitisan
As a combat veteran you do make me sick. I hope some terrorist cuts your yellow belly head off. Let you and your coward milatary haters cry out for protection. You ungratful pig. Go to another country where queers like you will be taught to appreciate the freedom that was paid for by real men known as veterans. Remember your freedom to be a worthless pig and jerk was paid for by the blood of real men. I will get even with you turds I am sending Palin McCain one hundred dollars. and will go out and sign up thousands of Mc Cain supporters showing them your worthless letter
Posted by: Brutis on 09/14/08 at 6:56 PM
After seeing the post by smitisan I am ashamed to be a Obama supporter. After reading these posts I am convinced that McCain is the only way to cast my vote. My Grandfather was killed in Iwo Jima as a US Marine fighting for that worthless group of ungrateful anti milatary girly boys. This is not the democrat party I used to know. The men are like woman and the woman are like men. Then you get smitisan and I wonder if he is the result of barn yard sex his daddy had.
Posted by: Claudia on 09/14/08 at 7:10 PM
Excuse me, but if you had bothered to look at some of my other posts you’d know I’m a Nam vet myself, but I stopped and looked at what was really going on and realized I wasn’t fighting for my country or for anyone’s freedom, but for a bunch of crooks like Nixon and McNamara who didn’t care how many people they killed in the process of keeping the US in power over the rest of the world, as if this was all some high school football game. So you can call me yellow belly or whatever else you want, I quit caring about your opinions a long time ago, but you talk about my Dad, who did two tours in Nam and one in Korea, and you’re just indulging in the same sleaziness Obama has already called you on!
Posted by: smitisan on 09/14/08 at 7:32 PM
After reading about paying woman less I am disgusted. That lieing hypocrite Obama. My husband was right He said that Obama looks like he can not look you in the eyes. And he said Obama lies always. My husband is a Chicago police inspector in the vice squad. Now I do believe the stories he told me about bath house Obama. If he was exposed here what else is he lieing about. After dumping Hilliary I am voteing for Sara and John
Posted by: Jasemin on 09/14/08 at 7:52 PM
And by the way, I can’t help but notice that both Claudia and Brutis misspell “military” as “milatary.” I’ve also noted that the grammar problems in a lot of these anti-Obama posts are consistent. Whoever you are, you’re not fooling anybody.
Posted by: smitisan on 09/14/08 at 7:54 PM
So I guess those who figure McCain should be excused from using technology have never heard of voice-software or the numerous other aids for the handicapped? He can talk can’t he? Do you really want to argue that being handicapped is an excuse for not using computers? Sure it might make it harder but handicapped people have been successfully using computers for years. In fact, computers are always being designed to *make it easier for handicapped people to get by in the world*.
Posted by: UberShaman on 09/14/08 at 10:49 PM
smitsan
you are a veteran and pigs do fly. I am a retired combat Marine and i can honestly say that any man that fought in a war would never mock a disabled veteran. Especially a POW. There is a a code of honor and admiration. Real combat veterans do not talk like smitsan. If smitsan honestly was a veteran he fought a pencil sharpener. and a coffe maker. After reading the posts by Obama supporters I thank God that I will support McCain. He may not do E-mails but he is a real leader and tells the truth. Just look at the crazy nut jobs follwing Obama
Posted by: CHESTY on 09/15/08 at 5:58 AM
smitsan
you are a veteran and pigs do fly. I am a retired combat Marine and i can honestly say that any man that fought in a war would never mock a disabled veteran. Especially a POW. There is a a code of honor and admiration. Real combat veterans do not talk like smitsan. If smitsan honestly was a veteran he fought a pencil sharpener. and a coffe maker. After reading the posts by Obama supporters I thank God that I will support McCain. He may not do E-mails but he is a real leader and tells the truth. Just look at the crazy nut jobs follwing Obama
Posted by: CHESTY on 09/15/08 at 6:00 AM
smitsan
you say you are a veteran and pigs can fly. You are a big mouthed wanna be. I am a retired combat Marine and i can honestly say that any man that fought in a war would never mock a disabled veteran. Especially a POW. There is a a code of honor and admiration. Real combat veterans do not talk like smitsan. If smitsan honestly was a veteran he fought a pencil sharpener. and a coffe maker. After reading the posts by Obama supporters I thank God that I will support McCain. He may not do E-mails but he is a real leader and tells the truth. Just look at the crazy nut jobs follwing Obama
Posted by: CHESTY on 09/15/08 at 6:08 AM
Well, chesty or claudia or whoever you really are, the VA is treating me for PTSD I didn’t get from a coffee machine attack, and I’ve lost a job because gossip around the pencil sharpener after I took a gun away from a fellow who was shooting up the office was all about how dangerous us crazy vets are. So you just mocked a veteran, though I’m not a physically disabled one. I’m not mocking McCain for being a disabled vet; I’m mocking him for thinking that having been a POW somehow excuses him from everything the Republican party has done since Reagan to undermine this country. I’m mocking him for being smack dab in the middle of the savings and loan scandal, for championing half-assed campaign finance reform that went nowhere but looked good, and for caving to everything he once stood for but using that POW label as if it exonerated him. He’s not a POW now, he’s a Republican politician. After Gingrich, Atwater, Rove, Ken Starr, and Bush and Cheney, that makes him the enemy. This is war, and this one actually is for my country. So there, pffft.
Posted by: smitisan on 09/15/08 at 7:01 AM
Smitisan,
I salute you. Veterans are people, therefore you have good ones and bad ones. Just because you’re a veteran doesn’t mean you are automatically more patriotic than all the “whiney” folks who didn’t go to war. We need the military to protect our country (but not necessarily from Terrorists). I’m not so sure we need to brainwash our soldiers though and that is exactly what the military excels at!!!
Posted by: The Hell You Say on 09/15/08 at 7:18 AM
And I just wanted to say that I seriously doubt that McCain’s war injuries stop him from using a computer. If he can use a cell phone, he can use a computer.
Posted by: The Hell You Say on 09/15/08 at 7:21 AM
Have you ever heard of voice dial?
Posted by: lawmom90 on 09/15/08 at 7:48 AM
Absolutely. And I pray daily that I have the good sense to sit back, offer support and the wisdom of prior generations and don’t try to tether future generations with my own limitations. I’m 52 and wouldn’t know a RSS reader if one bit me…but I’m not bragging that it makes me a better person. Or blaming prior injury (however heroically sustained). Or belittling those who do use current technology.
Posted by: Lesandjon on 09/15/08 at 3:14 PM
John McCain was tortured for 5 years and is now disabled, his arms don’t work very well. Mocking him for his disability seems very mean-spirited.
Sep 17, 2008 - 10:29 am 197. Betty:Amen sister Betty. You are a breath of fresh air. I agree with you. Obama is crying racism and making people more hateful of whites. Whites are tired of the old racism defense. Obama is a preacher of hate like Rev. Wright and Farakhan. You are not alone their are many brothers and sisters with you. We are tired of the old white plantation owner’s liberal democrats keeping us down. Look at the Asians, Indians, Europeans who are successful. They have not submitted to these liberals and their slave owner doctrines they suppress us with.
Sep 17, 2008 - 12:02 pm 198. Robert:Lehman Brothers: Obama’s Rezko-Auchi conflict of interest
By Andrew Walden @ 11:19 AM :: 137 Views
Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama was quick to blame the bankruptcy of Wall Street giant Lehman Brothers on Republicans’ “failed philosophy”. Obama’s September 15 comments were repeated throughout the media–yet reporters have not noted Obama’s glaring conflict of interest—the Lehman debt owed to a bank owned by the financier who loaned millions of dollars to Tony Rezko.
Jockeying among the other debtors seeking repayment under Chapter 11 bankruptcy rules is BNP Paribas, a large French bank whose largest single private shareholder is Nadhmi Auchi’s General Mediterranean Holdings (GMH). BNP Paribas is owed $250 million by Lehman.
Nadhmi Auchi is an Iraqi whose Baathist ties go back to 1959. A formerly high-ranking official in Iraq’s Oil Ministry, Auchi left Iraq at the end of the 1970s. His wealth then grew exponentially as a procurer of arms for Saddam Hussein’s government during the Iran–Iraq war. He is now one of the richest men in Britain. Saddam Hussein in 1995 selected BNP, which later merged with Paribas, as the sole conduit bank handling Oil-for-Food transactions. This Clinton-era arrangement was changed in 2001 by the incoming Bush administration.
Auchi was also a key financial backer for Chicago political fixer and dual US-Syrian citizen Tony Rezko. This writer explained the complex web of relationships in an August 24 article titled, “Iraqi Billionaire Threatens Reporters Investigating Rezko Affair”:
A secret $3.5 million loan from an Auchi company to key early-money Barack Obama fundraiser Antoin Rezko was exposed while Rezko was awaiting trial on fraud and money-laundering charges earlier this year. Rezko’s bail was revoked and police showed up banging on the doors of his Wilmette Chicago mansion to drag him off to jail early in the morning of January 28th. Auchi’s loan to Rezko had come on May 23, 2005 but had not been disclosed to the Court as required in his bail agreement. Three weeks later, on June 15, 2005, Rezko’s wife assisted the Obamas in the purchase of their South Chicago mansion by purchasing a next-door undeveloped lot being sold with the house.
According to the Times of London, “Mr. Rezko’s lawyer said his client had ‘longstanding indebtedness’ to Mr. Auchi’s General Mediterranean Holding (GMH). By June 2007 he owed it $27.9 million. Under a Loan Forgiveness Agreement described in court, M. Auchi lent Mr. Rezko $3.5 million in April 2005 and $11 million in September 2005, as well as $3.5 million transferred in April 2007. That agreement provided for the outstanding loans to be ‘forgiven’ in return for a stake in the 62-acre Riverside Park development.”
Rezko’s relationship with Barack Obama goes back to at least 1990, when Obama’s law firm did work relating to thousands of now-decaying Rezko apartment units in South Chicago. Rezko was a key early-money fundraiser in Obama’s state Senate campaigns and his failed run at the U.S. Congress.
According to The Times of London, “Mr. Auchi first met Mr. Rezko after the 2003 Iraq war and they have a business relationship.” At the time Auchi was facing the possibility of extradition to France. The Times of London explains: “Mr Auchi was convicted of corruption, given a suspended sentence and fined £1.4 million in France in 2003 for his part in the Elf affair, described as the biggest political and corporate scandal in post-war Europe. He, in a statement from his media lawyers, claims he is appealing against the sentence.”
In 2003, Nick Cohen of the UK Guardian wrote:
Allow me to introduce you to Nadhmi Auchi. He was charged in the 1950s with being an accomplice of Saddam Hussein, when the future tyrant was acquiring his taste for blood. He was investigated in the 1980s for his part in alleged bribes to the fabulously corrupt leaders of post-war Italy. In the 1990s, the Belgium Ambassador to Luxembourg claimed that Auchi’s bank held money Saddam and Colonel Gadaffi had stolen from their luckless peoples. In 2002, officers from the Serious Fraud Squad raided the offices of one of Auchi’s drug companies as part of an investigation of what is alleged to be the biggest swindle ever of the (British National Health Service). With allegations, albeit unproven, like these hanging over him, wouldn’t you think that British MPs would have the sense to stay away?
One might think Obama would also stay away, but in truth it is only the US media who are ducking this story. While ideological bias and a predisposition towards inanity might explain some of the media ignorance, the August 24 article cites another cause:
Working for Auchi… attorneys from London law firm Carter-Ruck have for several months been flooding American and British newspapers and websites with letters demanding removal of material they deem “defamatory” to their client.
In its June 28 edition, British satirical magazine Private Eye explains: “Until Carter-Ruck and Partners and England’s stifling libel laws got to work, the few American journalists not caught up in Obama-mania were turning to the archives of the British press to answer an intriguing question: who is Nadhmi Auchi?”
What is so “stifling” about English libel law? In the U.K., as Carter-Ruck explains on its own website, “A libel claimant does not have to prove that the words are false or to prove that he has in fact suffered any loss. Damage is presumed.”
The Obama campaign recently issued a non-denial denial in response to claims that Obama met with Auchi―contained in Jerome Corsi’s bestseller, The Obama Nation. They cited only two references. One is, “Mr. Auchi’s lawyer” who told the February 27, 2008 London Evening Standard, “As far as he can remember he has had no direct contact with Mr. Obama.” Another is, “A lawyer for Auchi, Alasdair Pepper” who says, according to the April 16, 2008 Washington Post, “Auchi Had ‘No Recollection’ Of Meeting Obama or Michelle.” Alasdair Pepper is the attorney whose name appears on the Carter-Ruck demand letters.
Here are some questions reporters should be asking Barack Obama:
Senator Obama: Lehman Brothers owes over $250 million to a bank owned in part by Nadhmi Auchi’s holding company. Auchi was a key financial backer of Tony Rezko. Sources indicate you met Auchi twice when he visited Chicago in 2004. If elected, how will your relationship with Rezko and Auchi affect your policy towards Lehman Brothers?
Senator Obama: There are reports that Nadhmi Auchi was in 2004-2005 seeking US residency while appealing his French court conviction in the ELF-Aquitaine case. If elected, would you look favorably on a US residency application from Auchi?
Senator Obama: You stated that the Lehman bankruptcy shows that Americans cannot afford four more years of the Republicans’ “failed philosophy”. Can Americans afford a President whose home was purchased with the assistance of now-convicted-felon Tony Rezko, a man characterized as having “permanent indebtedness” to Nadhmi Auchi?
Sep 17, 2008 - 12:16 pm 199. Shelby:I have noticed through the last 20 years that liberal left wing people are always mean and critical. They seem to be very unhappy unless they can tear people down. The new slogan for Democrats and Obama should be JOIN US MISERY INVITES COMPANY.
Sep 17, 2008 - 4:57 pm 200. Carl:Barack Obama’s Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Connection
Fox News ^ | Sep 16, 2008 | John Gibson
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 18:02:40 by fightinJAG
Freddie and Fannie used huge lobbying budgets and political contributions to keep regulators off their backs.
A group called the Center for Responsive Politics keeps track of which politicians get Fannie and Freddie political contributions. The top three U.S. senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were Democrats and No. 2 is Sen. Barack Obama.
Now remember, he’s only been in the Senate four years, but he still managed to grab the No. 2 spot ahead of John Kerry — decades in the Senate — and Chris Dodd, who is chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.
Fannie and Freddie have been creations of the congressional Democrats and the Clinton White House, designed to make mortgages available to more people and, as it turns out, some people who couldn’t afford them.
Fannie and Freddie have also been places for big Washington Democrats to go to work in the semi-private sector and pocket millions. The Clinton administration’s White House Budget Director Franklin Raines ran Fannie and collected $50 million. Jamie Gorelick — Clinton Justice Department official — worked for Fannie and took home $26 million. Big Democrat Jim Johnson, recently on Obama’s VP search committee, has hauled in millions from his Fannie Mae CEO job.
Sep 17, 2008 - 5:20 pm 201. Roise Mondoza:I was there with Obama in NM they are not for us, there is no good news for us with Obama. He will Bring bad news to us. My People VOTE FOR McCAIN.
Sep 18, 2008 - 3:46 pm 202. Rosita:He does have hope for us he has always been there for us for our people.
VOTE McCAIN !!!
As a Mexican American I am offended by Obama. He thinks we are stupid with his promises that he will never keep. Obama looks down his nose at us. I implore my fellow Mexican Americans to vote for an honest man vote McCain. Obama is a paid hack for the unions. Sara Palin is a normal woman who understands families and middle class people. Obama send his children to a private school and insists us peons go to a public school. He is more concerned for the teachers’ union money than us Mexican American peons. He is a racist who tries to make us believe Republican are prejudice. You can see the hate he has for us.
Sep 18, 2008 - 4:12 pm 203. Monica:The Liberal elite Democraps are above the laws and look down on you, You can tell by the way they attack the messenger and never answer the subject. Where I come from we would say they are delusional and useful idiots for the liberal elite who really feel they are the blue bloods of society. We are just ignorant peasants who they can keep down. The elite does not pay taxes because they wrote the tax code. From Kennedy, Kerry to Pelosi, Rangel they have tax-free trusts. They despise Christians and morality because it exposes their deceit and class warfare they invoke upon the various unclean peasant groups. They force public schools on us yet send their children to private schools. We are Americans and we need to expose these ultra leftist snobs including the Obamas. The left likes him be cause he will tax and make it impossible for us to be in their neighborhoods. Palin and McCain are normal family loving people who want the best for our families and for us to succeed. Please search your heart and you will agree.
Sep 19, 2008 - 8:21 am 204. april:Democrats find it fun and joyful to make fun of some one, they will do all you can to hurt, to be un kind to any one that will not go with their way of life. This makes me think I need to go with McCain. I am an Independent that will go with McCain just becouse of mead Democrats!
Sep 19, 2008 - 10:22 am 205. LILY:As a woman and an open-minded thinker I don’t always see eye to eye with any one. But the more I hear how any woman that may what to make a change in this County that they love is bad, no good, a bad mother, just bad! I see my self as Indecent / Democrat. But the more I see the more I must be a Republican. If I hear any more how bad Palin is I will vote for McCain and Palin!
Sep 19, 2008 - 10:55 am 206. Franklin:Look Obama is now crying racism about McCain Commercial showing Obama’s financial advisors Franklin Raines and the whose who of Fannie Mayes Corrupt thieves. Every time this FILTHY Lying POLITICAL SCUM Hack Obama gets the light shinned on him he cries racism. Do not forget he called Bill Clinton a racist when Clinton called Obama a liar
Sep 19, 2008 - 11:11 am 207. Franklin:I am a black Afro American and I state it as a Fact! Obama is a RACIST simple. That is all that comes out of his and his wifes mouth. Rev. Wright preached it for 20 years and Obama does not remember. Of course not he is part of the Farakhan hate machine. That is the reason Jesse Jackson wanted to cut his balls off. The problem is Obama does not have any. He sold them out to the lobyist at Fanny Mae and Freddie Mack and Middle Eastern Terrorists and George Soros.
Sep 19, 2008 - 11:46 am 208. Franklin:Team Obama Has Fingerprints All Over Financial Crisis – Updated
Strata Sphere ^ | Sep 19 2008 | AJStrata
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 11:42:42 by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Now we know why Obama wants to raise taxes – to bail out those jerks who tanked our mortgage markets and nearly sent us into a real depression. First off it is good to get a little history on what led to this mess. Michael Reagan does a good job of laying out the story, but this part is worth noting and remembering:
To find the donkey, you need to go back to the Clinton administration, which decided that everybody and his kid brother was entitled to a mortgage even when they didn’t begin to qualify for a home loan.
In saner days, banks designated certain areas as no-loan zones — depressed neighborhoods where lending money to potential home buyers was not just a risky investment, but a certain future foreclosure.
Critics of the practice called it “redlining,” and President Clinton and his chums on Capitol Hill decided that banks should no longer act like banks and lend money only to home buyers who could afford to handle the monthly payments.
Remember, Clinton left office with the economy a mess after the dot.com bubble burst too. This is what happens when you let inexperienced people with radical and naive ideas become president. One of the people key to this mess is Franklin Raines – who has ties to both Clinton and Obama:
Franklin Delano Raines (born January 14, 1949 in Seattle, Washington) is the former chairman and chief executive officer of Fannie Mae who served as White House budget director under President Bill Clinton.
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In 1991 he became Fannie’s Mae’s Vice Chairman, a post he left in 1996 in order to join the Clinton Administration as the Director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, where he served until 1998. In 1999, he returned to Fannie Mae as CEO, “the first black man to head a Fortune 500 company.”[1]
In 2006, the OFHEO announced a suit against Raines in order to recover some or all of the $50 million in payments made to Raines based on the overstated earnings [2] initially estimated to be $9 billion but have been announced as 6.3 billion.[2].
As everyone noted this guy was the first black CEO of a fortune 500 firm it becomes clear we cannot select leaders based on their race, or whether it advances their race. We need to pick leaders based on the content of their character, judgement and plans. Anyway, after setting up this mess and stealing a few million Raines ended giving advice to the Obama campaign.
Even more troubling is the fact that the two top beneficiaries of political donations from failed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over the last 9 years were Sen Chris Dodd (#1) and Barack Obama (#2). First off, I cannot fathom how a quasi-government company controlling 100’s of millions of dollars in mortgage payments from Americans across this country can line the pockets of the politicians supposedly overseeing them.
This is criminal. They take our mortgage payments and send some of it to the politicians – all the time running the entire thing into the ground? Folks, they took our mortgage payments, got rich, bribed some pols and sit fat and dumb in million dollar homes – paid for by us. And now we will pay more to fix the mess they left behind. Obama is in this up to his neck, since he got more money than any other senator save one, and he did it while in office only three of the 9 years covered.
Sep 19, 2008 - 11:59 am 209. Franklin:Mike Reagan declared that the “Democrats Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson, Jamie Gorelick, Penny Pritzker, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, are robbing the American taxpayer, and Republicans in the House and Senate had been tapped to drive the getaway car. In a political system where well paid Democrat operatives can enrich themselves at the expense of the American people with zero downside, there is no incentive to behave properly, when the taxpayer will bail you out. Enough is enough, bad decisions have consequences and those consquences ought to include indictments and jail time for those who cashed in.”
Sep 19, 2008 - 5:45 pm 210. Franklin:Democrats’ Silencing Is Deafening
Friday, September 19, 2008
By John Gibson
It looks to me like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — the twin $1 trillion disasters — were the creation of congressional Democrats and a Democrat White House.
So where are the Democrats? Why no news conferences explaining themselves?
Barney Frank — who who insisted Fannie and Freddie had to buy loans made to the unqualified — has had nothing substantial to say, though he did wisecrack yesterday in a Hi-Ho Silver voice: The “loan arranger” is on the way. He was referring to the administration riding in to save him.
Nancy Pelosi denied years of Democrat-sponsored easing of lending standards at Fannie and Freddie and simply said, no, not our fault.
Harry Reid over in the Senate promised Democrat action and immediately adjourned Congress to get out of town right away.
Bob Rubin, the Clinton economic genius who oversaw the launch of Fannie and Freddie drunken sailor’s decade, stood with Obama today. Hhe’s the one who went from the White House to Citibank where he lost a billion dollars.
John McCain is now running an ad pointing to Obama’s link to Franklin Raines, the Clinton official who ran Fannie Mae and took a payday north of $50 million. Raines was reported by The Washington Post to be an Obama adviser on housing issues. But as soon as McCain’s ad appeared, Obama rushed to deny Raines was any sort of adviser.
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In other words, adviser Raines went the way of Jeremiah Wright — downgraded to passing acquaintance.
McCain is also running an ad about Obama pal, Democrat Jim Johnson, a former Fannie Mae CEO who also got a pile of cash and headed Obama’s VP search committee.
Austan Goolsbee, the Obama economic adviser, has been writing academic papers for years insisting that any regulation of Fannie and Freddie would deny minorities mortgages and the ability to buy a home.
Remember, it was John McCain who put his name on reform legislation three years ago that might have stopped the downward slide of Fannie and Freddie, but that reform was stopped in its tracks. By whom? By all the aforementioned Democrats.
As for Obama, he’s No. 2 on the Fannie-Freddie political contribution list and he’s decided he’s not saying anything for a week.
The Democrats have some explaining to do.
Sep 19, 2008 - 6:17 pm 211. John W:Barack Obama–Lying Rabble Rouser
So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them….”
– Barack Obama, April 2, 2008
Barack Obama has made it clear – he believes gun owners are dangerous and that guns should be banned. If he is elected President, he could name new Supreme Court Justices who will try to overturn the recent court decision and strip our rights away.
Protect your rights. Protecting your rights has never been more important. Register to vote today!
In an appearance in Nevada, anti-gun presidential candidate Barack Obama told his followers:
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face,” he said.
“And if they tell you that, ‘Well, we’re not sure where he stands on guns.’ I want you to say, ‘He believes in the Second Amendment.’” (http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8999386&nav=168XYT17)
Barack Obama has gone beyond lying about his long anti-gun record. Now he is inciting his followers to lie for him and to be aggressive and confrontational with anyone who will not buy his lies.
The truth must scare Obama, and the truth is, Barack Obama is the most anti-gun candidate who has ever run on a major party ticket in American history. Don’t buy Obama’s lies. Or the lies repeated by his misguided followers.
Sep 20, 2008 - 7:19 am 212. Bruno:Remember what I said. It is true and part of a misinformation plan is to make the truth look paranoid. Just look around and see the media and DNC parroting the party line. The Christian Religion is evil. Homosexual is normal. Patriotism evil. Rebellion and changing the Constitution normal. Disarm the citizens normal. NRA and hunters evil. The Military and heroes evil. Anti military and ridicule heroes normal. Success and hard work evil. The government owes me normal. Shocking this is right out of the handbook of communist and Islamic terrorism guides to revolution and over throwing a country.. Schools teach the government is evil and socialism utopia normal. Divide the races through agitators and media. Destroy marriage and the families. The state is the parent. Call evil good and smear and destroy good. Look at the Hollywood crowd. McCarthy was right and history has proven it. They flock around dictators and tyrants Chavez, Castro, Iranian, and Syrians. Wake up and vote for McCain if you want freedom. After 40 years of Intelligence service I can just say look and watch. Look at Obama’s friend’s Islamic terror operatives. Rev. Wright preacher of Racist William Ayers radical terrorist. Farakhan. Research the hidden years at Columbia University. Also the overseas trips. Victor Marchenco, Ivan Scholos, Gory Machlinsos. Fhaad Hussan these are a few of the KGB friends who financed and open doors here through contacts. I am not long for this earth. A Terminal Sickness has attached to me. I want to warn my beloved country.
Sep 20, 2008 - 12:02 pm 213. Randolph:I have heard of many of the things Bruno mentioned. I retired from a private international intelegance-gathering firm two months ago. Bruno is one hundred percent right on. I retired because it was too dangerous in the Middle East with a few near misses. I hope Americans will wake up and see what is going on around them. I think I know who Bruno is. That is a code name he is using. He is a legend in the intelligence world. Bruno if you are there we all appreciates your great service and sacrifice you have given this country. We will carry your message and warning to many. We miss you and I know you will be in Heaven soon.
Sep 20, 2008 - 5:31 pm 214. Jennefier:After reading Bruno’s post and then Randolph I think it is very sobering and true. Read the article below. These names are involved with Obama.
Mistress of Disaster: Jamie Gorelick
By C. Edmund Wright
Ken Lay and Jack Abramoff must be green with envy over the all the mischief that has been accomplished by Jamie Gorelick, with scarcely any demonization in the press.
Imagine playing a central role in the biggest national defense disaster in 50 years. Imagine playing a central role in one of the biggest economic disasters in your country’s history. Imagine doing both as an un-elected official. Imagine getting filthy rich in the process, and even being allowed to sit self-righteously on a commission appointed to get to the bottom of the first disaster, which of course did not get to the bottom of that disaster or anything else for that matter.
Imagine ending, ruining or at least causing signficant quality deterioration in the lives of millions of people, most of whom will never know your name. Imagine counting your millions of dollars while people who tried to stop you from causing all this mayhem were getting blamed for most of the ills you actually contributed to.
Well, as un-imagineable as this is, there is one American who doesn’t have to imagine it. One Jamie Gorelick is this American. And without pretending that she caused the loss of countless thousands of lives and countless billions of dollars of wealth by herself, she certainly did push some of the early domino’s in catastrophic chain events that are a major factors in life in America today.
This is not a bad millineums’s work, when you think about it. Gorelick, an appointee of Bill Clinton, is the one who constructed the wall of separation that kept the CIA and the FBI from comparing notes and therefore invading the privacy of nice young men like, say, Muhammed Atta and Zacarius Moussaoui. While countless problems were uncovered in our intelligence operations in the wake of 9-11, no single factor comes close to in importance to Jamie Gorelick’s wall.
In fact, it was Gorelick’s wall, perhaps more than any other single factor, that induces some people to blame Clinton himself for 9-11 since he appointed her and she acted consistent with his philosophy of “crime fighting.” She put the wall into place as Deputy Attorney General in 1995.
And for good measure, she was appointed by Tom Daschle to serve on the “non partisan” 9-11 Commission. And we thought the fox in the henhouse was simply a metaphor. Of course, in a splendid example of “reaching across the aisle,” feckless Republican Slade Gorton of Washington did all he could to exonerate Gorelick in the commission. Thanks, Slade. God forbid the nation actually knows the truth.
But for Ms. Gorelick, one earth shaking catastrophe is just not enough. You might think that she caused enough carnage to us infidels on 9-11 as to qualify her for the 72 virgins upon her death. (this would also keep her consistent with several of Clinton’s philosophies).
Alas, that’s only part of her resume. Her fingerprints are all over the Fannie Mae-Freddie Mac mess, which is to say the mess that is central in the entire mortgage-housing crisis. Without so much as one scintilla of real estate or finance experience, she was appointed as Vice Chairman of Fannie Mae in 1997 and served in that role through 2003, which is when most of the systemic cancers that came home to roost today happened. She was instrumental in covering up problems with Fannie Mae while employed there and took multiple millions in bonuses as she helped construct this house of cards.
From Wikipedia:
One example of falsified financial transactions that helped the company meet earnings targets for 1998, a “manipulation” that triggered multimillion-dollar bonuses for top executives. On March 25, 2002, Business Week Gorelick is quoted as saying, “We believe we are managed safely. Fannie Mae is among the handful of top-quality institutions.” One year later, Government Regulators “accused Fannie Mae of improper accounting to the tune of $9 billion in unrecorded losses”
As we know, the financial damage done by the housing related problems in this country are still incalculable. Ms. Gorelick’s evil tab is still growing.
But it doesn’t stop there. She managed to be on the wrong side of the Duke LaCrosse case, working for Duke University to protect that school from it’s damaging knee jerk reactions to the spectacularly unbelievable charges filed by a stripper. (excuse me, exotic dancer). So, even on a smaller scale, she continues to make money while working to ruin the lives of innocent Americans in defense of liberal dogma. At the Department of Defense, when she served as legal counsel there in 1993, she drafted the “Don’t ask /don’t tell” policy.
Sep 20, 2008 - 5:43 pm 215. Jennefier:From what can be gleaned, it all comes from being well connected. She was educated (is that what they call it?) at Harvard undergrad and Harvard Law. From there, she kept getting appointed to positions above her experience level where she could flex her liberal muscles, add a resume item, and move upward.
Read this and thank God you were not a fetus around Huessain Mohamad Obama. Liberals love government handouts so they kill the unborn to stop the competition. Of course Obama will say it is racist when he is exposed for the cold hearted S.O.B. he is!
If It Was Up to Obama, This Woman Would be Dead
Townhall.com ^ | September 20, 2008 | Doug Giles
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 06:46:53 by Kaslin
No, I’m not talking about Sarah Palin, I’m talking about Gianna Jessen.
If it was up to the abominable Obama, the to-be-aborted little baby, Gianna Jessen, would have been turned into worm dirt 31 years ago. Thankfully, Mr. Change and Mr. Hope wasn’t around back then to lay his liberal legislative death-dealing pen to Ms. Jessen’s fate—and the world is a better place for it.
So, who is Gianna Jessen?
Gianna is an abortion survivor. Yep, she kicked death’s butt and survived against all odds. Her medical records state that she was “born during a saline abortion,” and if Barack Obama would have had his way, she wouldn’t be here.
Barack Obama voted four times against affording these “born alives” their most basic human right. Chilling, eh? How progressive of you, liberals. Hitler would be proud, and I’m sure Satan is just giddy with your creative ways to slay that inconvenient little baby even if it survives your initial assault.
Jessen, with a Pit Bull spirit, survived being burned alive in saline solution for eighteen hours. Eighteen hours, ladies and gents! FYI: This is not the same saline solution you use to clean your contacts but a lethal cocktail of death intended to cook the unborn kid from the inside out.
Weighing in at 2 lbs at birth with cerebral palsy (thanks to the effects of the witch’s brew she stewed in), the gloomy doctors said little Gianna would never be able to hold up her head, sit up, crawl or walk.
God had different plans.
Not only did she hold her head up, sit, crawl and walk, but she has run in two twenty-six mile marathons and has spoken all over the world, on TV, in churches and on college campuses about the power of God and the sanctity of life. Put that in your stupid pipe and smoke it, all-wise and all-knowing doctors.
Liberals love being painted as the defender of the underdog. Yeah, if you feel like you are being abused, oppressed, preyed upon, neglected, entitled to something or endangered in any way . . . do not fear! The Dems are here! Their protection extends not only to the human victim, but also to the translucent hair lice, the gargling nut warbler, a warming globe, a rare venereal crab, and a whooping crane’s egg.
Yep, the liberals will ramp up to Mach2, set their hair on fire, and fight, yell, picket, protest and blog their fingers bloody for animal rights and for your rights—that is unless, of course, you’re an unborn child.
It is with the unborn baby that the “protectors of the weak” morph into the party that wreaks havoc upon the truly helpless. It’s interesting to see misty-eyed liberals go quasi-Talibanic for the little animal while they have absolutely no qualms whatsoever endorsing the snuffing out of the life of a tiny unborn human.
One of the reasons the barbaric left uses to convince themselves that they’re right on the issue of killing that inconvenient “little bugger” (as one of their own calls it) is that it is not yet a person.
Something that is really wrecking the “protectors of the weak” BS campaign of killing unborn kids, however, is ultrasound imagery (Oops. Didn’t see that coming, now did you?). These pics and videos are screwing up things for the pro-choicers. Back in the day when they were selling us on the “fetal blob” stuff, all we had at our disposal to contradict their nonsense was common sense and a very grainy 2D sonogram.
With the use of ultrasound imaging increasing daily, how a person can say that an unborn baby is not yet a person and can be killed at Mommy Dearest’s discretion is barbarically beyond me. I guess the left and the pink conservatives callous their hearts to the unborn by rejecting a proposition central to Judeo-Christian thought regarding life and death: namely, that human life (beginning at conception and lasting until the person naturally croaks) is intrinsically good and thus sacred—not just instrumentally good.
In contrast with the secular “elite,” the “stupid,” “non-elite” and “archaic” Judeo-Christian constituency believes that all people—from the embryo to the elderly, including severely developmentally disabled, people in comas and everyone in between—have dignity and value. As Robert George said, “Their significance is not based upon what they can do, or how they make us feel or whether or not we approve of their quality of life, but principally because they live.”
And yet, these secular barbaric “tools” see human beings as tools; and if they don’t somehow fit instrumentally within the secularists’ Darwinian, utilitarian utopia, they get tagged as “inconvenient” and are relegated to the “very expendable” list. That’s why abortion is no big deal, and neither is taking the life of a so-called defective child, or suicide, or “mercy killing” a helpless senior. But God help you if you should ever run a boat’s prop over a manatee’s back! They’ll get pissed!
Not only does Obama’s Party of Death (as Ramesh Ponnuru calls the libtards) advocate the death of the unborn and the inconvenient, but they also want your tax dollars to pay for their death wishes, for all parents to butt out of their teenage daughter’s abortion plans, and for the US to continue to stay left of Europe when it comes to abortion on demand. Consider all the above when you cast your vote in November, those of you on the left and the right who cherish the unborn more than a sea cow.
For all the 411 on Gianna Jessen and what she’s up to, go to http://www.BornAliveTruth.org. Send her money, watch her videos, play her radio spots and help her wake our nation up to Barack’s barbaric beliefs.
Sep 21, 2008 - 7:27 am 216. Jennefier:The Politics of Personal Enrichment: Chris Dodd – Countrywide’s Sweetheart
9/21/08 | dirtboy
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 08:55:59 by dirtboy
In early June 2008, Americans learned of a VIP loan program provided to influential politicians by Countrywide Mortgage at the direction of its chairman Angelo Mozilo – and that one of the so-called ‘Friends of Angelo” was none other than Jim Johnson, a former CEO at Fannie Mae who had just been tapped to head Barack Obama’s vice presidential vetting committee.
Countrywide Friends Got Good Loans
Countrywide Financial Corp. makes mortgage loans through a vast network of offices, brokers and call centers. But a few customers have gotten their loans a special way: through Countrywide Chief Executive Angelo Mozilo.
These borrowers, known internally as “friends of Angelo” or FoA, include two former CEOs of Fannie Mae, the biggest buyer of Countrywide’s mortgages, say people familiar with the matter.
One was James Johnson, a longtime Democratic Party power and an adviser to Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign, who this past week was named to a panel that is vetting running-mate possibilities for the presumed nominee. Another was Franklin Raines, a onetime Clinton administration budget director, who left Fannie Mae amid an accounting scandal in 2004.
Initially, Obama did what he did best, namely, obfuscate: Obama Defends Jim Johnson’s Role as VP Selecter
At a press conference today, Sen. Barack Obama said he will not ask Jim Johnson to step down from his VP selection committee despite his ties to Countrywide Mortgage. Obama said he will not vet the vetters.
Obama: “These are not folks who are working for me.”
But that only lasted one day: JIM JOHNSON STEPS DOWN
Jim Johnson, who had been leading Barack Obama’s vice presidential search committee, has stepped down from the campaign.
“Jim did not want to distract in any way from the very important task of gathering information about my vice presidential nominee, so he has made a decision to step aside that I accept,” Obama said in a statement. “We have a very good selection process underway, and I am confident that it will produce a number of highly qualified candidates for me to choose from in the weeks ahead. I remain grateful to Jim for his service and his efforts in this process.”
Under the bus you go, Jim. Say hi to Reverend Wright for us.
So apparently Jim Johnson’s sweetheart Countrywide mortgages were grounds to disqualify him from vetting Obama’s veep candidates. But receiving similar favorable Countrywide mortgages were not sufficient from preventing another Friend of Angelo from drafting legislation that stood to benefit the new owner of Countrywide, Bank of America, at the expense of the American taxpayer. Namely, one Senator Chris Dodd, D-CT. Chair of the Senate Banking Committee. And at the time, busy crafting bailout legislation for the mortgage industry – legislation of considerable interest to Bank of America.
The story was initially broken by Conde-Nast Portfolio (link only) and picked up by other media outlets as well.
Two Senators Appear to be “Friends of Countrywide”
The Senator, a Democrat from Connecticut and Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee which regulates mortgage lending, was named in an article by Julie Hirschfeld Davis of the Associated Press and earlier by Conde Nast Portfolio magazine, as one of two senators – the other being Senator Kent Conrad (D – ND) – as having received preferential treatment from Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo in obtaining mortgage loans. Dodd had earlier this year called Countrywide’s lending practices “abusive.”
So, what was Dodd’s reaction to this revelation of preferential treatment? Why, to pull out the Dem scandal management playbook. First, he denied that he got preferential treatment. When it was revealed that he knew he was getting a special deal, he claimed he thought it was for his being a longtime customer. When a former Countrywide loan officer said that Mozilo demanded of his employees that they inform the recipients of VIP loans of their special treatment, and that Dodd had received FOUR sweetheart mortgages instead of just the two initially reported by Conde Nast (saving him a total of $70,000), Dodd just simply clammed up and stonewalled.
Some called on Dodd to halt his work on crafting the mortgage bailout bill, given the allegations. But Dodd refused. After all, there was vital legislation to draft for his new patron, Bank of America.:
WASHINGTON (Map, News) – “We call it the ‘Bank of America bill on steroids.’” A House staffer told me that, demanding anonymity, but speaking on behalf of aides to GOP members of the House Financial Services Committee.
He was talking about the bill whose Senate version has been brought to the floor this week by Sen. Chris Dodd, D-CN, and Sen. Richard Shelby, R-AL. Dodd-Shelby would let mortgage lenders off the hook for bad loans, shifting the burden ultimately to taxpayers. Dodd has received approximately $70,000 in campaign contributions from Bank of America in the last year-and-a-half.
Dodd-Shelby hit the Senate floor this week amid controversy over sweetheart loan deals Dodd and other powerful politicians received from Countrywide Financial, the lender with the most exposure to subprime mortgages at risk of default.
Some journalists and Republican lawmakers are asking if Countrywide bought a bailout bill with its VIP loans to Dodd, who is chairman of the Senate Banking Committee
And it appeared that Bank of America was pleased with what their money bought:
NRO Doc Drop: BofA-Scripted Bank Bailout Looks Awfully Similar to Dodd-Drafted Housing Bill [Stephen Spruiell]
National Review Online has obtained an internal Bank of America “discussion document” (pdf here) on the subject of the FHA Housing Stabilization and Homeownership Retention Act of 2008, a.k.a. the Dodd-Shelby mortgage-lender bailout bill.
Yesterday, Tim Carney reported that the prevailing sentiment on Capitol Hill is that the Dodd-Shelby bill “is exactly what Bank of America and Countrywide wanted.” BofA is in the process of acquiring Countrywide. Countrywide is currently embroiled in a scandal over its V.I.P. program, under which several powerful politicians, including Sen. Chris Dodd, got preferential loan rates.
This discussion document (dated March 11, 2008) would appear to support the contention that BofA essentially wrote the bailout section of the bill. Almost all of BofA’s preferences are mirrored in the Dodd-Shelby legislation. The BofA document even offers PR tips, such as “We believe that any intervention by the federal government will be acceptable only if it is not perceived as a bail-out of the bond market.”
And the estimated cost to taxpayers for that bailout of BofA and other mortgage lenders? Estimates range from $300 to $500 billion. So for $70,000 in campaign cash and $70,000 in mortgage discounts … well, you do your own math as to what that costs each taxpayer.
And the sorriest part of this affair? After all these revelations, Dodd was still on Obama’s short list of veep candidates. Which goes to show just what Obama thinks of the Politics of Personal Enrichment – that it is business as usual for the Democratic Party. Change? Try chump change. As in, Obama and Dodd thinks we are the chumps because they stick us with the costs. There’s only one way to prove them wrong. Make their corruption cost them their jobs.
Sep 21, 2008 - 9:03 am 217. Jan:Obama is crying racism and making people more hateful of whites. Whites are tired of the old racism defense. Obama is a preacher of hate like Rev. Wright and Farakhan. We are not alone their are many brothers and sisters that are tired of the old white plantation owner’s liberal democrats keeping us down. Look at the Asians, Indians, Europeans who are successful. They have not submitted to these liberals and their slave owner doctrines they suppress us with. Every liberal socialist feel good program that made them feel good has brought destruction on the Black population. The war on poverty has made the liberal politicians rich and us poor. Why do congress men and senators come into office middle class and leave rich. How about Rangel who hid his villas and taxes while living in subsidised housing. They are always liberals that want to spend your money on themselves. I and many other Black families are voting McCain Palin and the hell with bloodsucker lying liberals.
Sep 21, 2008 - 12:25 pm 218. Joy:Did any one see the LOVE that Cindy McCain has; it is like God’s love Light showing through her to all of us. She was with Mother Teresa! I know She will be a light to all of us as our First Lady. Taking a Look at Mrs. McCain and then look at Mrs. Obama I’m going with McCain
Sep 21, 2008 - 6:16 pm 219. Jennefier:Obama’s whopper
Rome Sentinel ^ | 9/18/2008
“…Washington lobbyists do not fund my campaign, they will not run my White House….” So said Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, Tuesday, speaking about an economy overshadowed by Fannie Mae mortgage problems.
Oh, dear. The record tells us different.
Obama received more campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, between 1989 and 2008, than every other federal lawmaker except committee chairman Democrat Christopher Dodd. And Obama outstripped the others after only having been in the Senate for three years. Based on Federal Election Commission filings, Obama received more contributions than 353 of the 354 lawmakers.
Then there is Obama’s other unsettling tie to the mortgage crisis. Obama’s Chicago sugar mommy is Penny Pritzger. She is finance chairman of Obama’s campaign. Pritzger’s Superior Bank collapsed in 2001, the largest failure in a decade. She was an owner, a president of Superior for five years, and, according to the Chicago Sun Times, active in leadership while on the bank’s holding company.
In February, 2008, Asian Week analyzed Superior’s failure. “The [sub-prime] financial engineering that created the Wall Street meltdown was developed by the Pritzkers and Ernst and Young, working with Merrill Lynch to sell bonds securitized by sub-prime mortgages,” according to Timothy J. Anderson, a whistle-blower on financial and bank fraud, and reported by Asian Week. “The sub-prime mortgages,” Anderson said, “were provided to Merrill Lynch, by a nation-wide Pritzker origination system, using Superior as the cash cow, with many millions in FDIC insured deposits. Superior’s owners were to sub-prime lending, what Michael Milken was to junk bonds.”
Other seeds to the mortgage crisis hark back to when then President Bill Clinton super-charged the Community Redevelopment Act, a Carter law to encourage minority home ownership. That social engineering — and greed — helped set up the current train wreck. At Fannie Mae, Clinton cronies Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick lined their pockets with some $175 million and Fannie Mae was fined $400 million for SEC and other violations. To quote the Investor’s Business Daily, “Market failure? Hardly. Once again, this crisis has government fingerprints all over it.”
Obama’s careful parsing of words would have us overlook the evidence — and overlook that Jim Johnson, another Fannie Mae former president during Clinton’s term, was an Obama economic adviser and, for a time, led Obama’s potential vice presidential search team.
Leave it to Obama to lash out at the free market with his silver tongue in an effort to distract.
Sep 21, 2008 - 7:58 pm 220. Jennefier:WorldNetDaily
Obama adviser spun Enron-like accounting scandal
Former Fannie Mae CEO to repay millions in bonuses, stock options
Posted: September 20, 2008
2:47 pm Eastern
WorldNetDaily
NEW YORK – Former Clinton administration budget adviser and current Obama housing adviser Franklin Raines perpetrated an Enron-like accounting scandal as chief executive officer of Fannie Mae, resulting in his receiving millions in compensation over a six-year period.
Sep 22, 2008 - 7:47 am 221. Jane R:Raines and two other top Fannie Mae executives agreed to pay $24.7 million, including a $2 million fine, to settle a civil lawsuit filed in December 2006. It accused Raines and the two other executives of manipulating Fannie Mae earnings, allowing executives to pocket hundreds of millions in bonuses from 1998 to 2004, according to the Associated Press.
The AP also reported Raines was forced to give up Fannie Mae stock options valued at $15.6 million as part of the settlement.
As recently as July 17, the Washington Post ran a profile piece on Raines claiming he “has been quietly constructing a new life for himself,” in which Raines takes “calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters.”
Prior to the settlement, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, known as OFHEO, the government regulator that oversees Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, had sought $100 million against Raines and the other two executives, plus restitution totaling more than $115 million in bonus money tied to the accounting scheme manipulation.
Fannie Mae separately paid a $400 million civil fine in a settlement with OFHEO and the Securities and Exchange Commission in an agreement to make top-to-bottom changes in its accounting procedures to avoid future Raines-like accounting manipulation scandals.
The Securities and Exchange Commission’s top account accused Fannie Mae under Raines’ leadership of misstating earnings for three and a half years, leading to an estimated $9 billion earnings restatement that wiped out 40 percent of Fannie Mae’s profits from 2001-2004, according to Business Week.
(Story continues below)
Central to the Raines accounting scandal was a strategy to “cook the books” of Fannie Mae to show the type of earnings that would trigger hundreds of millions of bonuses to Raines and other key Fannie Mae executives.
When the scandal surfaced, Raines resigned from Fannie Mae in December 2004, with a $19 million severance package, according to the Associated Press.
The Raines scandal surfaced in 2004 when charges Fannie Mae accounting manager Roger Barnes had been making since 1999 surfaced. He said Fannie Mae had been manipulating its earnings through “cookie jar” accounting to justify payment of hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses to top executives.
In his 26-page testimony before OFHEA, Barnes detailed multiple Fannie Mae deviations for Generally Accepted Accounting Practices, or GAAP, and his repeated efforts to bring these irregularities to a wide range of Fannie Mae managers and executives, all without positive result.
Barnes said he left Fannie Mae in October 2003 because he felt “forced out” once it excluded him from working on the OFHEA investigation.
“As a result of Fannie Mae’s refusals to take the concerns I had raised about financial and accounting practices seriously, and the retaliation I faced for raising these concerns, I had no choice but to separate from the Company in October 2003,” Barnes said on page 25 of his written Oct. 6, 2004, testimony to the Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Insurance and Government Sponsored Enterprises of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Financial Services.
Still, the OFHEA report on the Raines scandal cited Barnes 34 times in the first 80 pages of its 200-page report.
Barnes, an African American, reportedly received a $1 million settlement after threatening a whistleblower lawsuit citing racial discrimination, according to USA Today.
Obama’s Real-Estate Bust
He did for Illinois taxpayers what shady mortgage lenders have done for the economy.
By David Freddoso
Last week, Sen. Barack Obama compared the Savings and Loan bailout of the late 1980s to the situation of the mortgage-securities markets today:
Too many S&Ls took advantage of the lax rules set by Washington to gamble that they could make big money in speculative real estate. . . . [T]hey made hundreds of billions in bad loans, knowing that if they lost money, the government would bail them out. And they were right. The gambles did not pay off, our economy went into recession, and the taxpayers ended up footing the bill. Sound familiar?
Indeed, it does sound familiar — it sounds a lot like what Barack Obama did to Illinois taxpayers as a state senator in Springfield. Using his elected office and his clout, Obama helped Tony Rezko and other unscrupulous low-income housing developers obtain millions of dollars in state grants, tax credits, low-interest loans, and regulatory advantages.
Taxpayers had no serious chance of recouping these “investments” in Rezko and other developers. And many beneficiaries went one step farther, depriving the public of even the benefits they could have gotten. These developers took government help to build low-income housing, and then let their buildings deteriorate into uninhabitable slums.
To date, the most complete account of this sad story is Binyamin Appelbaum’s piece in the Boston Globe. Not only does it demonstrate the monumental failure of the low-income-housing policy that Obama vocally championed as a state senator, it gives a detailed look at how some of Obama’s donors and friends — the beneficiaries of that policy — neglected their own housing developments at the expense of the inhabitants.
There is no indication that Obama approved (or even knew) of the massive and systemic neglect of these properties in his own state-senate district. But there is also no question that he was an enabler in these transactions. He cosponsored at least six bills to give special tax breaks, tax credits, building-and-maintenance subsidies, and zoning exemptions to the developers. In 1998, he wrote letters to state and city officials requesting $14 million for a project developed by Tony Rezko and another close Obama friend — the politician’s old law-firm boss, Allison Davis.
In his Globe piece, Appelbaum describes the low-income Grove Parc Plaza complex, which was developed by Davis:
Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale — a score so bad the buildings now face demolition.
Sewage backups seem to be a common problem in Davis’s low-income slums — another of his buildings, Appelbaum reports, was cited in 2007 “after chronic plumbing failures resulted in raw sewage spilling into several apartments.”
Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s campaign adviser and the subject of a recent fawning interview by Katie Couric, is the chief executive of the company that managed that Grove Parc slum until just recently. Appelbaum writes that her company managed another housing complex until its condition became so poor that the federal government seized it in 2006.
Cecil Butler, another Obama donor, had his Lawndale Restoration complex confiscated by the government in 2006 “after city inspectors found more than 1,800 code violations.”
Appelbaum’s piece gives some sense of just how closely Obama was, and still is, tied to the slum-lord world. He’s taken contributions from its big players and pushed legislation favorable to them. His closest ally in that sphere has been Rezko, who raised $250,000 for Obama’s campaigns before being convicted on unrelated corruption charges earlier this year.
Rezko had been leveraging his fundraising abilities to win alliances with other politicians long before Obama got his start. He applied for his first subsidized-housing loan from the City of Chicago six days after Mayor Richard M. Daley’s election in 1989. Within the first six years of Daley’s reign, Rezko’s company, Rezmar, received $24 million in government loans and $8.5 million in federal tax credits. Over the following decade, it would rake in more than $100 million in loans from the city, state, and federal governments, as well as private bank loans to fix up 30 Chicago buildings for low-income public housing.
Despite all this cheap and free taxpayer money, all of Rezko’s 30 buildings eventually ran into financial difficulties. As of 2007, 17 had gone into foreclosure. Six were boarded up and abandoned.
The City of Chicago sued Rezmar at least a dozen times for failing to heat its properties. During the winter of 1997, Rezmar claimed it lacked the funds to heat a 31-unit building in Englewood on the south side of Chicago — one of eleven Rezmar buildings in Obama’s state-senate district. Tenants there went without heat from late December 1996 through mid-February 1997. Despite his company’s financial hardship, Rezko signed a $1,000 check for the campaign fund of the newly elected state senator Barack Obama on January 14, 1997.
When Barack Obama talks about risky real-estate investments and failures of government oversight, remember how he put Illinois taxpayers on the hook for some of the worst real-estate investments of all — investments in his close friend and in other slum landlords who took the public’s money and betrayed their trust.
Sep 22, 2008 - 8:48 am 222. Jane R:How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis: Kevin Hassett
Commentary by Kevin Hassett
Sept. 22 (Bloomberg) — The financial crisis of the past year has provided a number of surprising twists and turns, and from Bear Stearns Cos. to American International Group Inc., ambiguity has been a big part of the story.
Why did Bear Stearns fail, and how does that relate to AIG? It all seems so complex.
But really, it isn’t. Enough cards on this table have been turned over that the story is now clear. The economic history books will describe this episode in simple and understandable terms: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exploded, and many bystanders were injured in the blast, some fatally.
Fannie and Freddie did this by becoming a key enabler of the mortgage crisis. They fueled Wall Street’s efforts to securitize subprime loans by becoming the primary customer of all AAA-rated subprime-mortgage pools. In addition, they held an enormous portfolio of mortgages themselves.
In the times that Fannie and Freddie couldn’t make the market, they became the market. Over the years, it added up to an enormous obligation. As of last June, Fannie alone owned or guaranteed more than $388 billion in high-risk mortgage investments. Their large presence created an environment within which even mortgage-backed securities assembled by others could find a ready home.
The problem was that the trillions of dollars in play were only low-risk investments if real estate prices continued to rise. Once they began to fall, the entire house of cards came down with them.
Turning Point
Take away Fannie and Freddie, or regulate them more wisely, and it’s hard to imagine how these highly liquid markets would ever have emerged. This whole mess would never have happened.
It is easy to identify the historical turning point that marked the beginning of the end.
Back in 2005, Fannie and Freddie were, after years of dominating Washington, on the ropes. They were enmeshed in accounting scandals that led to turnover at the top. At one telling moment in late 2004, captured in an article by my American Enterprise Institute colleague Peter Wallison, the Securities and Exchange Comiission’s chief accountant told disgraced Fannie Mae chief Franklin Raines that Fannie’s position on the relevant accounting issue was not even “on the page” of allowable interpretations.
Then legislative momentum emerged for an attempt to create a “world-class regulator” that would oversee the pair more like banks, imposing strict requirements on their ability to take excessive risks. Politicians who previously had associated themselves proudly with the two accounting miscreants were less eager to be associated with them. The time was ripe.
Greenspan’s Warning
The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn’t be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie “continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,” he said. “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.”
What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.
Different World
If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006 and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable institutions. Without their checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed.
But the bill didn’t become law, for a simple reason: Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn’t even get the Senate to vote on the matter.
That such a reckless political stand could have been taken by the Democrats was obscene even then. Wallison wrote at the time: “It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit. The Democrats and the few Republicans who oppose portfolio limitations could not possibly do so if their constituents understood what they were doing.”
Mounds of Materials
Now that the collapse has occurred, the roadblock built by Senate Democrats in 2005 is unforgivable. Many who opposed the bill doubtlessly did so for honorable reasons. Fannie and Freddie provided mounds of materials defending their practices. Perhaps some found their propaganda convincing.
But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.
Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.
Clinton, the 12th-ranked recipient of Fannie and Freddie PAC and employee contributions, has received more than $75,000 from the two enterprises and their employees. The private profit found its way back to the senators who killed the fix.
There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for this crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 makes the answer pretty clear.
Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that’s worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess.
(Kevin Hassett, director of economic-policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, is a Bloomberg News columnist. He is an adviser to Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona in the 2008 presidential election. The opinions expressed are his own.)
To contact the writer of this column: Kevin Hassett at khassett@aei.org
Sep 22, 2008 - 11:17 am 223. Jane R:This u tube video is the final nail to McCain campaign This will send him and his right wing buddies into retirement
must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
Sep 23, 2008 - 7:45 am 224. carla:The Simonization of Barack Obama
Savage Politics ^ | September 3, 2008 | M. Corrigan
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 15:56:14 by 2ndDivisionVet
simonize |?s?m??n?z| verb [ trans. ] polish (a motor vehicle). ORIGIN 1930s: from the proprietary name Simoniz + -ize .
Sitting on the sidelines, I have watched the unfol 10f8 ding drama of this presidential election. There has been a simonizing of Barack Obama that has been breathtaking to watch. Where has the mainstream press been to examine all the unanswered questions and events that have arisen? Any reporter’s career might be made by investigating anything that is contained in this article.
A great story could be found in the nauseating treatment of HRC by the DNC, media and Democratic Party. A story could catch on about the failed POTUS candidates, who sprang to support Obama and malign Hillary because of their jealousy. An expose’ could be written about the deep under current of misogyny, and sexism that promoted an unqualified candidate. A morality tale could be told about loyalty, truth, and courage which are dismissed because officials covet a piece of the power pie. However, there are more important and compelling questions that should be deeply investigated about Obama by mainstream media:
Questionable relationships- Ayers, Qdinga, Khalidi, al-Mansour, Farrakhan, Rezko, Auchi, Wright, Pfleger.
Possible Nefarious Behavior- Annenburg Project failure with the money improprieties.
Racism- Michelle Obama/Farrakhan “Whitey Tape” speculation.
Campaign Big Money-Obama Campaign’s true money sources.
Fabrication- the great uncle of WWII
Historic Gaffs- Obama’s lack of understanding of historical events
Primary Double-Dealing- Caucus Fraud, Super Delegate and delegate threats and payoffs, Manipulation of the DNC Roll Call, Threats and intimidation by campaign thugs.
Murders- Bill Gwatney and Gay Choir Director of Trinity Baptist, Donald Young.
Undisclosed Meeting- Brazile/Rove.
Non-transparency about records- tax, State Senate, law firm, law practice client list, legislative accomplishments, small donar’s/fundraiser’s/bundler’s figures.
Personal non-transparency- birth. baptism, medical, Selective Service, Occidental/Columbia/Harvard records, Columbia thesis paper, University of Chicago scholarly articles, published Harvard Law Review Articles, Obama’s Wall Street work.
Obama has received passes from the mainstream media (MSM) about “backroom remarks” such as Canada/NAFTA, Teamsters/Ear of the President and most recently Biden’s “behind the scenes” remark that Israel should accept that Iran will have nuclear weapons, which now he denies.
MSM continues to lightly gloss over words and actions that should signal a bright red flag. There was Obama’s frightening non-connection to the Georgian situation. Also, Obama’s policy shifts, regardless of what they are, should give pause, as to what he stands for and the media should have called attention and explained these following reversals:
opting out of public campaign financing, revising Iraq withdrawal plans, voting against the death penalty in child rape cases, reversal on hand gun bans, voting for FISA, reversal on NAFTA, and lifting the ban on off-shore drilling.
The press has enabled Obama’s evasive tactics, so that the public projects a reflection of whatever they dream about him.
The media’s decline began in the Bush Administration, cheerleading for a trumped-up war and rubber stamping, as unpatriotic, those that questioned the war. And so it continues as the lazy/paid-off press has refused to vet Barack Obama and has enabled big money to simonize Barack Obama. I have watched this dazzling spin of which many of my friends and family are victims because they have no real sources of information, The truth about Barack Obama has been insulated from the general public by mainstream media by perpetuating a polished image and this could “polish off” the very foundation of our Democracy.
Sep 23, 2008 - 3:56 pm 225. carla:The WHite House ^ | September 19 | Staff
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 21:06:36 by PghBaldy
For many years the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties. President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted. Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
2001
April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”
2002
May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)
2003
January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.
February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (”Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)
September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.
September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.
October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.
November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)
2004
February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)
February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market's] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04)
June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)
2005
April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05)
2007
July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.
August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)
September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.
September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.
December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)
2008
January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.
January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.
February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says “A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.” (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)
March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.
March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and “move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)
April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and “modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)
May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.
“Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)
“[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)
“Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)
June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying “we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)
July: Congress heeds the President’s call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.
Sep 23, 2008 - 8:19 pm 226. carla:Here’s the ad that the Obama doesn’t want seen:
Sep 24, 2008 - 7:34 am 227. Fay:WATCH HILLARY RIP OBAMA – HERE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQadAAlK9c4
I read that the young man that busted in to Gov. Palin’s e-mail has been in to child porn, is this so?
Sep 24, 2008 - 9:31 am 228. Jane:Of course he is a dem His dad is Obamas director
Sep 25, 2008 - 8:01 am 229. carla:Dems are supporters of homos and every deviate .
The perverts of a feather flock together
Guess who recommended
Obama to enter Harvard
Mystery man in senator’s memoir now
revealed as disciple of socialist agitator
In a revelation tying Barack Obama even closer to radical community organizing, WND has learned that a renowned disciple of the late socialist agitator Saul “The Red” Alinksy wrote a letter of recommendation for Obama when he applied to Harvard Law School.
Obama approached Northwestern University professor John L. McKnight – a loyal student of Alinsky’s radical tactics – to pen the Harvard letter in the late 1980s. McKnight serves on the boards of radically anti-American groups in Chicago, including one accused of thuggery.
Obama in his 2006 memoir alludes to McKnight – whom he describes as an “older man who had been active in the civil rights efforts in Chicago in the sixties” – but stops short of identifying him by name. He referred to him only as “my friend.”
But McKnight, who enforced affirmative action for Attorney General Robert Kennedy, was far more than that to young Obama. He helped train him in the agitation tactics of Alinsky, who wrote the organizing manual, “Rules for Radicals,” which he dedicated to mankind’s “very first radical, Lucifer.”
The Chicago-based Gamaliel Foundation lists McKnight as a board director. From1985 to 1988, Obama worked for a subsidiary of Gamaliel, where he cut his teeth as a community organizer on Chicago’s South Side. McKnight and Gamaliel, which was founded on Alinsky’s principles, provided training for the budding radical.
Before leaving for Harvard, Obama wrote an article published in a journal titled, “After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois,” in which he praised McKnight and his organizing strategies. He also decried “institutional racism” and called for more “power” to put in place “a systematic approach to community organization.”
While at Harvard, he found time to take advanced training courses at the Industrial Areas Foundation, a group founded by Alinsky and affiliated with Gamaliel. He also would return to Chicago to work as a consultant and trainer for Gamaliel.
Under the tutelage of McKnight and other hardcore students of Alinsky, Obama says he got the “best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School.” He made the remark last year while campaigning in Iowa.
His mentor McKnight also sits on the board of a militant leftist group called the National People’s Action, the professor’s curriculum vita reveals. NPA employs the hardball street tactics of Alinskyite organizing.
NPA claims to be simply a coalition of neighborhood advocacy groups based in Chicago, but conservative analyst Michelle Malkin describes it as a “left-wing goon squad.” She says NPA has been known to bus hundreds of angry protestors to the homes of business and government leaders to demand “justice” for inner-city blacks.
While preparing to intimidate the families of officials and trample over their private property, she says NPA picketers belt out the following battle cry:
Who’s on your hit list, NPA?
Who’s on your hit list for today?
Take no prisoner, take no names.
Kick ‘em in the a– when they play their games.
“NPA’s militant tactics cross the bounds of decent political debate,” Malkin wrote in 2004.
Obama, in his 1995 memoir, said he wanted to go to Harvard Law School to “learn power’s currency in all its intricacy,” with the goal of “making large-scale change” as a national politician.
Before writing his recommendation, McKnight, a former ACLU director, advised Obama not to “compromise” his principles.
Sep 25, 2008 - 8:02 am 230. jage:While Obama says he’s perhaps more tolerant of compromise than McKnight, he says his views haven’t really changed from his days organizing on behalf of radical Alinsky groups like Gamaliel and ACORN in Chicago.
“My views are not so much more refined than they were when I labored in obscurity as a community organizer,” he averred in his 2006 autobiography.
Socialist dream
Alinsky, the father of community organizing, dreamed of socialism one day replacing the “jungle” of American capitalism. He wrote that he hoped “for a future where the means of production will be owned by all of the people instead of just a comparative handful.”
Alinsky dedicated the first edition of his book, “Rules for Radicals,” to Satan: “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer.”
McKnight has advocated for another war on poverty, something Obama is proposing with his “Urban Prosperity” plan.
Fox News Blames Democrats for Financial Crisis, Bill Clinton Agrees
NewsBusters.org ^ | September 25, 2008 – 11:25 ET | Noel Sheppard
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 09:44:22 by TexasCajun
Going very much against the media meme that the current financial crisis is all George W. Bush and the Republicans’ fault, Bill Clinton on Thursday told ABC’s Chris Cuomo that Democrats for years have been “resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac” , relevant section at 2:45).
Whether he knew it or not, Clinton was going against virtually all press outlets that have been pointing fingers at Republicans since this crisis began, and likely much to the dismay of such folk actually agreed with a Fox News segment aired on Tuesday’s “Special Report”
Sep 25, 2008 - 8:59 am 231. jake:Democrats are to blame for financial meltdown
Our current financial/mortgage crisis is directly caused by the Democratic Party. The Community Reinvestment Act was broadly expanded under the Clinton administration to encourage more high-risk sub-prime loans.
In 2003, the Bush administration attempted to bring tighter oversight and control over Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the sub-prime market, which was promptly rejected by the Democrats as unnecessary.
“These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,’’ said Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” Rep. Mel Watt, D-N.C., agreed. (The New York Times, Sept. 11, 2003)
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has the audacity to state that the Democrats are not responsible for this financial breakdown. What will she do now? My guess is call for recess, go home and blame the Republicans again. After all, this is the usual Democratic Party strategy. Is this the change you want for America?
Sep 27, 2008 - 11:29 am 232. jake:Obama was a key player behind the mortgage crisis
The Obama File ^ | 9/27/08 | motoman
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 15:26:16 by motoman
Sources point to Obama as a possible starting point to the domino affect that lead to the housing crises we are now facing. Check the provided links and judge for yourself.
“In a 1995 case known as Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank, Obama and his fellow attorneys charged that Citibank was making too few loans to black applicants and won the case. As one commentator noted in May 2008, legal “successes” such as this were probably responsible for the sub-prime mortgage crisis of 2007 AND 2008. That is, banks were not loaning to blacks whose credit was poor. When the law forced them to lend money anyway, the inevitable collapse occurred.”
Obama was a key player in the lawsuit that started the government on a course of forcing lenders to give more loans to those who had poor credit. Lending companies were forced to come up with imaginative ways of fulfilling the quotas that were required. Sub-prime lending was born as a result. The mortgage crises was forecast by many who were able to look beyond the quota. Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank
http://clearinghouse.wustl.edu/detail.php?id=10112&search=source%7Cgeneral;caseCat%7CFH;orderby%7CcaseName;
The Hidden Clue
http://www.vdare.com/pb/050105_hiddenclue.htm
Obama’s Early Legal Career: Heavy on Advocacy for Blacks
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/05/09/obamas-early-legal-career-heavy-on-advocacy-for-blacks/print/
Sep 27, 2008 - 3:17 pm 233. Paul Revere:Missouri governor goes nuclear on Obama for using prosecutors on campaign “truth squad”posted at 6:30 pm on September 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
Sep 27, 2008 - 7:56 pm 234. Paul Revere:Send to a Friend | regular view Oh, now. Would people really refrain from criticizing Obama just because they fear being, er, sent to prison for it?
This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.
More at the link. Needless to say, no one actually has to be prosecuted for this to work. Prosecution will be impossible anyway in most cases thanks to the First Amendment. The point isn’t to jail critics but merely to price the cost of prospective litigation into their decision on whether to publicly criticize The One. Add this to the threatening letters his lawyers sent to station managers over the NRA ads, the flash-mob smearing of David Freddoso, and the appeal to the Justice Department to prosecute the American Issues Project for its perfectly factual yet devastating Ayers ad. Oh, the fun we’ll have with a deep blue Congress and an Obama-run DOJ and FCC. He promised you a “new type of politics,” didn’t he? Click the
The Democrats tried and still have a 20% of all income from the govt 700 billion dollar bail out to go to special intrests such as accorn. We need to clean out the congress and senate of these low life prostitutes. Yes the Democrat bill has that in. Google it and then you have no more excuses. Clinto this week on ABC said the Democrats stopped all regulation of Fannie Mae in 2003. Obama also stopped regulation two years ago. He is a worthless arrogant elitist thief and a political whore.
Sep 27, 2008 - 8:04 pm 235. Paul Revere:Family Told Obama NOT To Wear Soldier Son’s Bracelet… Where is Media?
By Warner Todd Huston
September 28, 2008 – 03:53 ET
Barack Obama played the “me too” game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin.
Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son’s name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family.
Radio host Glenn Moberg of the show “Route 51″ asked Mr. Jopek, a man who believes in the efforts in Iraq and is not in favor of Obama’s positions on the war, what he and his ex-wife think of Obama continually using their son’s name on the campaign trail.
Jopek began by saying that his ex-wife was taken aback, even upset, that Obama has made the death of her son a campaign issue. Jopek says his wife gave Obama the bracelet because “she just wanted Mr. Obama to know Ryan’s name.” Jopek went on to say that “she wasn’t looking to turn it into a big media event” and “just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself.” Apparently, they were all shocked it became such a big deal.
But, he also said that his ex-wife has refused further interviews on the matter and that she wanted Obama to stop wearing the reminder of her son’s sacrifice that he keeps turning into a campaign soundbyte.
Sep 28, 2008 - 7:53 am 236. Paul Revere:The Democrat Party a Criminal Enterprise
Friends of Angelo get new invitations — to a federal grand jury
Countrywide Mortgage CEO Angelo Mozilo offered sweetheart deals on loans to his “friends”, who just happened to be people who had oversight responsibilities on his business. People like Fannie Mae CEO/chair Jim Johnson, Senators Chris Dodd and Kent Conrad, and others got below-market-rate loans from Mozilo through a “Friends of Angelo” program at one of the main lenders at the heart of the subprime collapse. Now a federal grand jury wants to talk to Angelo’s circle of friends to determine whether indictments for corruption are in order:
Countrywide Financial Corp., the biggest U.S. mortgage lender, made large, previously undisclosed home loans to two additional executives of Fannie Mae, the government-chartered firm at the center of the U.S. credit crisis.
One of Countrywide’s previously undisclosed customers at Fannie was Jamie Gorelick, an influential Democratic Party figure whose $960,000 mortgage refinancing in 2003 was handled through a program reserved for influential figures and friends of Countrywide’s chief executive at the time, Angelo Mozilo. Ms. Gorelick was Fannie Mae’s vice chairman at the time.
Another Countrywide client was recently ousted Fannie Mae Chief Executive Daniel Mudd, though it isn’t clear whether he received special treatment on two $3 million mortgage refinancings he made when he was the company’s chief operating officer. …
Countrywide loans on preferential terms to influential figures are the subject of a federal grand jury investigation in Los Angeles, according to people involved in the inquiry. Prosecutors subpoenaed records of many of the so-called “Friends of Angelo” loans in August, lawyers and others familiar with the matter said. …
While Countrywide was developing a closer working relationship with Fannie Mae, the company also had created a special path to handle loan applications from influential figures. The “Friends of Angelo” program channeled loan applications from celebrities, public figures and sports stars — often singled out by Mr. Mozilo — to a department where the borrowers received special treatment, sometimes including lower interest rates and a reduction in fees.
It’s been a while since we’ve heard from Jamie Gorelick. The former 9/11 Commission panelist wound up being one of the focal points of the dot-connecting afterwards, as she pushed for further separation of law enforcement and intelligence efforts in the years prior to the 9/11 attacks, even while al-Qaeda attacked American embassies in Africa and the USS Cole. Now she turns up at Fannie Mae, taking the same kind of insider loans while having oversight responsibilities for the GSE and the manner in which its business got transacted with other firms, including Countrywide.
Gorelick claims she never knew she got preferential treatment. For that matter, Barack Obama’s campaign adviser Jim Johnson says the same thing. However, both got loans a full point lower than market value at the time, after going outside the normal channels to get their loans handled. Are we to believe that the CEO of Fannie Mae and a member of its board were completely ignorant of the going rate for residential loans at the time of their application? What business did they think they were in, anyway? The rate for residential loans is the center of Fannie Mae’s business.
The notion that they were ignorant of their preferential treatment insults both their intelligence and ours. I suspect that a federal grand jury will feel the same way if Gorelick and Johnson try to use that line in their testimony, assuming they don’t just take the Fifth when called.
Gorelick hasn’t had any role in the presidential campaigns, but Johnson has been a high-level adviser to Barack Obama — and still is. Chris Dodd has taken leadership on the bailout bill negotiations on Capitol Hill. With two Democrats this closely tied to a federal grand jury action, they’d better hope that the grand jury takes its time in assessing the evidence. This to me seems a lot more worthy of an investigation than a dismissal of a political appointee in Juneau.
Sep 28, 2008 - 7:53 am 237. right:I’ve been watching the debate carefully and interviews, different articles. As independant I read and listen to both the republicians and demoncrats. I listen to both candidates. As others I was very disappointed in the Bush Adminstration but kept open mind about both McCain and Obama. I finally made up my mind about Obama, he’s for positive change and very smart and care about people. The Debate finally won me over and Palin interviews also help me realized that McCain and Palin are not ready to be in the highest office.
Sep 29, 2008 - 9:32 am 238. Revere:ACORN’s Senator
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Election ‘08: Barack Obama wasn’t just the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac political contributions. He was also the senator from ACORN, the activist leader for risky “affirmative action” loans.
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Despite efforts to blame the rescue bill’s failure on the GOP, it should be remembered that 95 Democrats — some 40% of the Democratic Caucus — withheld support. Obama himself also deserves blame — not only for the bill’s failure, but also for the crisis it was designed to solve.
As the New York Times reports, “Aides to Mr. Obama said he had not directly reached out to try to sway any House Democrats who opposed the measure.” Is the reason the fact that the slush fund for ACORN in the original bill, siphoning off 20% of any future profits for such activist groups, was trimmed from the tree?
Obama, who once represented ACORN in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois, was hired by the group to train its community organizers and staff in the methods and tactics of the late Saul Alinsky. ACORN would stage in-your-face protests in bank lobbies, drive-through lanes and even at bank managers’ homes to get them to issue risky loans in the inner city or face charges of racism.
In the early 1990s, reports Stanley Kurtz, senior fellow at the Ethics and Policy Center, Obama was personally recruited by Chicago’s ACORN to run training sessions in “direct action.” That’s the euphemism for the techniques used under the cover of the federal Community Reinvestment Act to intimidate financial institutions into giving what have been called “Ninja” loans — no income, no job, no assets — to people who couldn’t afford them.
CRA was designed to increase minority homeownership. Whenever a bank wanted to grow or expand, ACORN would file complaints that it was not sufficiently sensitive to the needs of minorities in providing home loans. Agitators would then be unleashed.
Chicago’s ACORN used Alinsky’s tactics against institutions such as Bell Federal Savings and Loan and Avondale Federal Savings. In September 1992, the Chicago Tribune described the group’s agenda as “affirmative action lending.”
Obama also helped ACORN get funding. When he served on the board of the Woods Fund for Chicago with Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, the Woods Fund frequently gave ACORN grants to fund its activist agenda.
In 1995, Kurtz reports, Obama chaired the committee that increased funding of ACORN and other community organizers. The committee report boasted that the fund’s “non-ideological” image “enabled the Trustees to make grants to organizations that use confrontational tactics against the business and governmental ‘establishments’ without undue risk of being accused of partisanship.”
The CRA empowered regulators to punish banks that failed to “meet the credit needs” of “low-income, minority and distressed neighborhoods.” It gave groups such as ACORN a license and a means to intimidate banks, claiming they were “redlining” poor and minority neighborhoods. ACORN employed its tactics in 1991 by taking over the House Banking Committee room for two days to protest efforts to scale back the CRA.
As a former White House staff economist writes in the American Thinker, Obama represented ACORN in a 1994 suit against redlining. ACORN was also a driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton administration that greatly expanded the CRA and helped spawn the current financial crisis.
Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. Last November, he told the group, “I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career.” Indeed he has. Obama was and is fully aware of what ACORN was doing with the money and expertise he provided. The voters should be aware on Nov. 4 of the roles of both in creating the current crisis.
Shame on the people in the MSM that refuse to report anything on him. They are not Americans. No American can support this traitor. These people must know everything we do about him and shamelessly promote him. I never watch anything but FOX. We need to turn off our tv’s and get our news here.
Sep 30, 2008 - 6:25 pm 239. Anonymous:Bruno passed away fro his illness Sunday. He was a great American Hero. Bruno was buried with full military honors at Arlington National Cemetery with the President attending. Bruno was a great asset to all of his neighbors and co-workers at Langley Virginia. His words are burning in many hearts. Bruno said the left in this country are the allies of our enemies. He said Sarah Palin was the beginning of a great movement of Main Street America rising up. She will bring this country back from the insane perverted left wing. He said this Fanny Mae crisis is due strictly to the left wing Democrats. America will rise up and realize the corrupt and perverted left wing is a cancer to all. He said the left wing is full of hate critical and anger. Only a miserable person would join. Misery invites company. below was his words to the next geration as he passed his baton over.
Remember what I said. It is true and part of a misinformation plan is to make the truth look paranoid. Just look around and see the media and DNC parroting the party line. The Christian Religion is evil. Homosexual is normal. Patriotism evil. Rebellion and changing the Constitution normal. Disarm the citizens normal. NRA and hunters evil. The Military and heroes evil. Anti military and ridicule heroes normal. Success and hard work evil. The government owes me normal. Shocking this is right out of the handbook of communist and Islamic terrorism guides to revolution and over throwing a country.. Schools teach the government is evil and socialism utopia normal. Divide the races through agitators and media. Destroy marriage and the families. The state is the parent. Call evil good and smear and destroy good. Look at the Hollywood crowd. McCarthy was right and history has proven it. They flock around dictators and tyrants Chavez, Castro, Iranian, and Syrians. Wake up and vote for McCain if you want freedom. After 40 years of Intelligence service I can just say look and watch. Look at Obama’s friend’s Islamic terror operatives. Rev. Wright preacher of Racist William Ayers radical terrorist. Farakhan. Research the hidden years at Columbia University. Also the overseas trips. Victor Marchenco, Ivan Scholos, Gory Machlinsos. Fhaad Hussan these are a few of the KGB friends who financed and open doors here through contacts. I am not long for this earth. A Terminal Sickness has attached to me. I want to warn my beloved country.
Oct 1, 2008 - 7:19 pm 240. Colonel:Obama’s Not Exactlys:
1.) Selma March Got Me Born – NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google ‘Obama Selma ‘ for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establi sh Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga’s follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that….and for more.
Obama’s cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians’ homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father’s family was mainly Arabs… Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s birth cert ificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro). From….and for more….go to…..
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article ‘Obama was ‘quite religious in islam” http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times : Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.’ This is just one example of ‘Obama’s narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash t roubling facts.’
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience – NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Voting ‘Present’ is Common In Illinois Senate – NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – NOT EXACTLY, you didn’t write it, introduce it, change it or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA – NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel .
30.) I Want All Votes To Count – NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.
31.) I Want Americans To Decide – NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State
Oct 2, 2008 - 6:45 am 241. Colonel:Ten reasons to vote for Obama –
1. You are a Marxist who believes that America should only have two classes. The ruling class and the workers. It doesn’t matter that they are already paying 95% of all taxes collected by the IRS. They need to pay more and just forego creating new jobs.
2. You don’t care if he is natural born or not, and that he may not even be an American citizen because he refused to take the oath and give up his citizenships to two other countries when he turned 18.
3. You find that endorsements from the Amercian Socialist and Communist parties as well as endorsements from Hamas, Hezbollah, Kadafi, Chavez and Iran are positive.
4. You don’t care that his involvement in Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac began in 1995 when he worked for and trained ACORN workers to file law suits against bankers who refused to give mortgage loans to drug addicts, illegals and people who couldn’t afford them.
5. You don’t think his close relationships to convicted felons, unrepentant terrorists, radical black theologians that hate both America and White people matters.
6. You think it is perfectly fine, to divert a million dollars of his campaign funds to ACORN so they can register dead people, duplicate people, illegals and college students and encourage them to vote early and vote often.
7. You want our defense allocations to go to re-education camps which are currently named Camp Obama instead of protecting us from terrorist. Oh I forgot he is friends with all the terrorists.
8. You feel that the first amendment only applies to people who agree with Obama. All others will have law suits filed against them.
9. That allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire isn’t a tax increase and giving 95% of Americans a tax cut even though only 47% of Americans pay taxes is possible.
10. You feel that babies born alive during unsuccessful abortions do not deserve medical attention and should be left to die alone.
Using Winston Churchill’s words, Obama is a “Riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma”. What do you really know about Obama?
Oct 4, 2008 - 8:24 am 242. Johnny B:Where were you whiney free thinkers when Alan Keyes was winning all the debates but was BLACKED OUT by the media?
Oct 24, 2008 - 9:00 pm 243. I am saying no to Obama on Tuesday | Notes from the Trail:Perhaps thinking, literate, older white, voters reject Obama on the basis of his inexperience, his constant deciet, his Marxist ideas, his PLO connections, and his domestic terrorist friends.
The ignorance of you Sheeple amazes ME!
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Nov 3, 2008 - 4:08 am 244. valerie jean clayton:what we have is each other GOD has none HE gave his only begotten son JESUS so that we might live and have everlasting life. Change, Hope, and first of all Love should become our first steps to care; to give the very best as ONE. This is the sole purpose of life.
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