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		<title>By: olsmithie</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/remembering-the-bomb-forgetting-why/comment-page-4/#comment-104887</link>
		<dc:creator>olsmithie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWII Japan demonstrated racism at its worst!
Just ask the Chinese people who had been put upon by the Japanese for ages.

The bombings most certainly saved hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides.
Sadly necessary.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WWII Japan demonstrated racism at its worst!<br />
Just ask the Chinese people who had been put upon by the Japanese for ages.</p>
<p>The bombings most certainly saved hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides.<br />
Sadly necessary.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: johan</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/remembering-the-bomb-forgetting-why/comment-page-4/#comment-97999</link>
		<dc:creator>johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god that the Americans  and the Allied forces helped ended the WW2 and making countries under Japanese occupation liberated and gained independence. Should the Japanese did not invade us, may be, Malaysian would not know the meaning of independence. God Bless America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god that the Americans  and the Allied forces helped ended the WW2 and making countries under Japanese occupation liberated and gained independence. Should the Japanese did not invade us, may be, Malaysian would not know the meaning of independence. God Bless America.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Takes - 8/16/2008 at Ray Fowler .org</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/remembering-the-bomb-forgetting-why/comment-page-4/#comment-91912</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Takes - 8/16/2008 at Ray Fowler .org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moran remembers why the U.S. dropped the atomic bomb. &#8220;How could we have done it? Much of the world to this day asks the question, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Moran remembers why the U.S. dropped the atomic bomb. &#8220;How could we have done it? Much of the world to this day asks the question, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Birdnow &#187; The Case for Bombing Japan</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/remembering-the-bomb-forgetting-why/comment-page-3/#comment-91440</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Birdnow &#187; The Case for Bombing Japan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s a writer (Rick Moran) who applies the necessary context. And reminds us why hindsight may NOT necessarily be 20/20. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here&#8217;s a writer (Rick Moran) who applies the necessary context. And reminds us why hindsight may NOT necessarily be 20/20. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/remembering-the-bomb-forgetting-why/comment-page-3/#comment-91160</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: Mike O&#039;Malley
RE: [OT] Yeah....

&quot;Chuck Pelto, you are a hackneyed idiot.&quot; -- Mike O&#039;Malley

...Right....

Show me your Mensa membership ID number, buckie, and I&#039;ll call you &#039;bro&#039;.

RE: [OT] Britain Today

&quot;Consider it a good day for you. I ask you, is today’s UK what the British WW2 vets fought for?&quot; -- Mike O&#039;Malley

That discussion was fielded by Roger L. Simon a couple of weeks ago. Sorry you missed it.

Care to get back ON-TOPIC?

TO: All
RE: Typical &#039;Liberal&#039; Mentality

As has been noticed by so many others in various venues, Mike makes a good example of the typical &#039;liberal&#039; approach to discussion. Changing the subject, prevarication, not answering questions and ad homs.

&#039;nuff said.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Prevaricator:  A liar in the caterpillar state. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil&#039;s Dictionary]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: Mike O&#8217;Malley<br />
RE: [OT] Yeah&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Chuck Pelto, you are a hackneyed idiot.&#8221; &#8212; Mike O&#8217;Malley</p>
<p>&#8230;Right&#8230;.</p>
<p>Show me your Mensa membership ID number, buckie, and I&#8217;ll call you &#8216;bro&#8217;.</p>
<p>RE: [OT] Britain Today</p>
<p>&#8220;Consider it a good day for you. I ask you, is today’s UK what the British WW2 vets fought for?&#8221; &#8212; Mike O&#8217;Malley</p>
<p>That discussion was fielded by Roger L. Simon a couple of weeks ago. Sorry you missed it.</p>
<p>Care to get back ON-TOPIC?</p>
<p>TO: All<br />
RE: Typical &#8216;Liberal&#8217; Mentality</p>
<p>As has been noticed by so many others in various venues, Mike makes a good example of the typical &#8216;liberal&#8217; approach to discussion. Changing the subject, prevarication, not answering questions and ad homs.</p>
<p>&#8217;nuff said.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
[Prevaricator:  A liar in the caterpillar state. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike O'Malley</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/remembering-the-bomb-forgetting-why/comment-page-3/#comment-91111</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike O'Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck Pelto, you are a hackneyed idiot.  I am glad you were able to learn something about history that might not fit in the confinement of your ideological position.  

Indeed, it is hard sometimes for any reactionary, knee-jerk &quot;hoo-rah&quot; Neocon dupe to learn anything, but at least you have.

Consider it a good day for you.  I ask you, is today&#039;s UK what the British WW2 vets fought for?  What did Churchill achieve?  He lost the Empire, and the English have already demographically lost England, and Europeans much of Europe. 

Churchill created a climate that allowed Muslims to immigrate into the West.  Some victory for us and the &quot;english-speaking&quot; world.  Yeah keep on cheering. Neocons for some reason love to hear that Europe is going down, yet they cannot see that England is still more English than Texas is Texan.  Texans are already a minority, GWB&#039;s home state is in worse shape than England is.  Duh!

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Pelto, you are a hackneyed idiot.  I am glad you were able to learn something about history that might not fit in the confinement of your ideological position.  </p>
<p>Indeed, it is hard sometimes for any reactionary, knee-jerk &#8220;hoo-rah&#8221; Neocon dupe to learn anything, but at least you have.</p>
<p>Consider it a good day for you.  I ask you, is today&#8217;s UK what the British WW2 vets fought for?  What did Churchill achieve?  He lost the Empire, and the English have already demographically lost England, and Europeans much of Europe. </p>
<p>Churchill created a climate that allowed Muslims to immigrate into the West.  Some victory for us and the &#8220;english-speaking&#8221; world.  Yeah keep on cheering. Neocons for some reason love to hear that Europe is going down, yet they cannot see that England is still more English than Texas is Texan.  Texans are already a minority, GWB&#8217;s home state is in worse shape than England is.  Duh!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: Mike O&#039;Malley
RE: Tell Me....

....do you speak German?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. If not, thank history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: Mike O&#8217;Malley<br />
RE: Tell Me&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.do you speak German?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
P.S. If not, thank history.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike O'Malley</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/remembering-the-bomb-forgetting-why/comment-page-3/#comment-91018</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike O'Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS To: Chuck Pelto

you wrote: &quot;P.S. It was probably one of the best mistakes to happen to England.&quot;

That&#039;s a wildly improper statement, since it seems as if you are saying that the digression of the air war from military targets to civilian areas was a good thing for England and/or Germany?

That makes little sense to me.

Up to July 1940, not one single German bomb has fallen on British towns. Hitler had given orders that no British towns are to be bombed and, above all. bombing of London is completely forbidden and embargoed. Churchill knows this, because he&#039;s reading the German code, he&#039;s reading the German Air Force signals, which I can now read in the German files. Churchill is reading the signals and he knows that Hitler is not doing him the favor.

Hitler is still hoping that this madman in England will see reason or that he will be outvoted by his cabinet colleagues. So he&#039;s not doing Churchill the favor of bombing any English towns. Churchil is frantic because he thinks he&#039;s being outsmarted by Hitler. On July the 20th he sends for Sir Charles Portal, the Chief of Bomber Command. and he says to Sir Charles Portal, as we know from records from Command to the Air Ministry, &quot;When is the earliest that you could launch a vicious air attack on Berlin?&quot; Sir Charles Portal replies to Winston, &quot;I&#039;m afraid we can&#039;t do it now, not until September because the nights aren&#039;t long enough to fly from England to Berlin and back in the hours of darkness. September, perhaps, and in September we will have the first hundred of the new Sterling bombers ...&quot; But he also says, &quot;I warn you, if you do that, the Germans will retaliate. At present they&#039;re not bombing English targets, they&#039;re not bombing civilian targets at all and you know why. And if you bomb Berlin, then Hitler will retaliate against English civilian targets.&quot; And Churchill just twinkles when he gets this reply because he knows what he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS To: Chuck Pelto</p>
<p>you wrote: &#8220;P.S. It was probably one of the best mistakes to happen to England.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a wildly improper statement, since it seems as if you are saying that the digression of the air war from military targets to civilian areas was a good thing for England and/or Germany?</p>
<p>That makes little sense to me.</p>
<p>Up to July 1940, not one single German bomb has fallen on British towns. Hitler had given orders that no British towns are to be bombed and, above all. bombing of London is completely forbidden and embargoed. Churchill knows this, because he&#8217;s reading the German code, he&#8217;s reading the German Air Force signals, which I can now read in the German files. Churchill is reading the signals and he knows that Hitler is not doing him the favor.</p>
<p>Hitler is still hoping that this madman in England will see reason or that he will be outvoted by his cabinet colleagues. So he&#8217;s not doing Churchill the favor of bombing any English towns. Churchil is frantic because he thinks he&#8217;s being outsmarted by Hitler. On July the 20th he sends for Sir Charles Portal, the Chief of Bomber Command. and he says to Sir Charles Portal, as we know from records from Command to the Air Ministry, &#8220;When is the earliest that you could launch a vicious air attack on Berlin?&#8221; Sir Charles Portal replies to Winston, &#8220;I&#8217;m afraid we can&#8217;t do it now, not until September because the nights aren&#8217;t long enough to fly from England to Berlin and back in the hours of darkness. September, perhaps, and in September we will have the first hundred of the new Sterling bombers &#8230;&#8221; But he also says, &#8220;I warn you, if you do that, the Germans will retaliate. At present they&#8217;re not bombing English targets, they&#8217;re not bombing civilian targets at all and you know why. And if you bomb Berlin, then Hitler will retaliate against English civilian targets.&#8221; And Churchill just twinkles when he gets this reply because he knows what he wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike O'Malley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike O'Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To:  Chuck Pelto

1)  Yes, I graduated from high school.
2)  I knew you could avoid a snarky ad hominem comment, that&#039;s very typical of Neocons.
3)  I&#039;m glad you learned something about WW2, that isn&#039;t widely known in the English speaking world, since the WW2 history we get in the English-speaking world is often produced by English or Jewish historians, and they certainly need to be watched for a lack of neutrality.

Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To:  Chuck Pelto</p>
<p>1)  Yes, I graduated from high school.<br />
2)  I knew you could avoid a snarky ad hominem comment, that&#8217;s very typical of Neocons.<br />
3)  I&#8217;m glad you learned something about WW2, that isn&#8217;t widely known in the English speaking world, since the WW2 history we get in the English-speaking world is often produced by English or Jewish historians, and they certainly need to be watched for a lack of neutrality.</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US government was aware of all that was going on in China when making the decision to take the initiative to end the war with a massive and decisive show of force. The total numbers of those killed in China was suppressed as there was no desire of Chinese government to show a high death toll by an occupying enemy who plundered their nation so swiftly.  The captured information for Allied scientists provided by warehouses full of documentation on experiments on live human subjects was invaluable to a group bound by ethics, and information was quickly suppressed in the learning systems of all involved(US/China/Japan) to make the transition to the new world order a smooth as possible.  The release of the Iris Chang book &#039;The Rape of Nanking&#039; in Japan in 1997 caused much outrage among Japanese students toward their government as there was no prior knowledge of what had happened.  Sorry to drivel on about this, but if I start to get into anything other then the most basic outlines of the actual history of the war in the Pacific, I&#039;ll end up typing 100 pages tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US government was aware of all that was going on in China when making the decision to take the initiative to end the war with a massive and decisive show of force. The total numbers of those killed in China was suppressed as there was no desire of Chinese government to show a high death toll by an occupying enemy who plundered their nation so swiftly.  The captured information for Allied scientists provided by warehouses full of documentation on experiments on live human subjects was invaluable to a group bound by ethics, and information was quickly suppressed in the learning systems of all involved(US/China/Japan) to make the transition to the new world order a smooth as possible.  The release of the Iris Chang book &#8216;The Rape of Nanking&#8217; in Japan in 1997 caused much outrage among Japanese students toward their government as there was no prior knowledge of what had happened.  Sorry to drivel on about this, but if I start to get into anything other then the most basic outlines of the actual history of the war in the Pacific, I&#8217;ll end up typing 100 pages tonight.</p>
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