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Reported Obama-Hamas Contacts Bode Ill
Another clash between Obama’s public statements and his team's behind-the-scenes activities.
Hamas was founded in December 1987 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin — killed seventeen years later in an Israeli raid — and is the Palestinian branch of the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood. Already in 1988 Hamas began shooting, stabbing, and stoning Israelis to death (incidents are proudly listed in the organization’s “Glory Record,” a popular document on anti-Israeli websites).
That year Hamas also promulgated its charter, which states: “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it. … There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through jihad. … Jihad is [our] path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of [our] wishes.”
The deeply anti-Semitic charter also cites the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as “the embodiment of the Zionist plan to usurp Palestine.”
Hamas carried out its first suicide bombing in 1994, and is believed to have killed over 500 people and wounded thousands. Israel, the European Union, Canada — and the United States — officially boycott it and define it as a terrorist organization. Among its most famous attacks are the suicide bombings of:
- the Dolphinarium Disco in Tel Aviv in June 2001, which killed 21
- the Sbarro Restaurant in Jerusalem in August 2001, which killed 15
- the Park Hotel in Netanya in March 2002, which killed 30
- Jerusalem’s Egged bus no. 2 in August 2003, which killed 23
Since Israel’s withdrawal of all civilian and military personnel and installations from Gaza in August 2005, Hamas, with some help from other terror organizations, has fired over six thousand rockets at civilian targets within Israel. In June 2006, Hamas raided an Israeli army encampment on sovereign Israeli territory, killing two soldiers and kidnapping another, Gilad Shalit, whom Hamas has held ever since while denying him visits of any kind including by the Red Cross, a flouting of all legal norms.
While some of us have also criticized the Bush administration’s close contacts with Fatah — now the internationally accepted Palestinian Authority leadership — and especially its glorification of Fatah as a peace-seeker, certain differences between Hamas and Fatah are worth noting:
- Ongoing talks with Fatah leaders like PA President Mahmoud Abbas and top negotiator Ahmed Qureia are now bipartisan Israeli policy, with Likud prime ministerial aspirant Binyamin Netanyahu recently stating that he’ll continue these contacts if elected. For better or worse, in dealing with Fatah the U.S. — whether under Bush or Obama — is not in principle going farther than Israel goes. The bipartisan Israeli position toward Hamas, however, is that it is a sworn enemy seeking Israel’s destruction and that a political process with it is out of the question.
- Whatever their past activities, and despite the official PA’s ongoing inculcation of murderous anti-Israeli attitudes particularly through its education system, Fatah leaders like Abbas and Qureia are not currently known to be involved in terror attacks. Terror or “resistance” remains, however, Hamas’s raison d’être and its leadership is fully behind, for instance, the ongoing shelling of Israeli civilian targets from Gaza.
- Although there have been reports of Iranian backing and funding for Fatah, Hamas is directly, heavily, and explicitly backed and funded by Tehran and is a full-fledged member of the radical anti-Israeli, -American, and -Western axis that it leads and that also includes Syria and Hezbollah. And while Fatah’s supposed “secularism” is exaggerated and it too has adopted Islamist themes, Hamas’s expressly Islamist — albeit Sunni — ideology makes it a more natural client for Tehran.
All in all, it doesn’t add up to an organization the United States should be treating as even a potential friend. If that’s what Barack Obama’s advisers, with his blessing, have been up to, it’s not only an end-run around official U.S. policy but also cause for very serious worry.
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P. David Hornik is a freelance writer and translator living in Tel Aviv. He blogs at http://pdavidhornik.typepad.com/
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1. Arthur:there have been over 400 terrorist attacks by Israeli settlers on Palestine this past year. The settlers are also targeting the Israeli army with their violence. Does this alarm you? As a jew it alarms me. if all you do is call your partner a terrorist do you think that helps matters? there will be no peace without compromise on both sides, simply ratcheting up the partisan attacks and hatred and fear is not going to help anyone in the US or in israel. Simply put you are not being serious on the issues, you are making attacks. come to the table with something constructive and we can fix this mess, but sit there and bad mouth everyone and all you will do is end up smelling your own fumes.
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:07 am 2. The Historian:OBAMA STARTS LIKE A ROOKIE
Team Obama has a long way to go in just over 70 days. Time to fasten our seat belts as noted here:
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama-starts-like-rookie.html
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:15 am 3. Chuck Pelto:TO: Arthur
RE: Facts Please
Got any credible sources of this information you could share?
Reading your report, I’m reminded of how the Lancet said there were 650K dead Iraqis as a result of the fighting there since March 2003. A bogus report, as it turns out.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:24 am 4. David Thomson:[Figures don't lie. But liars figure.]
“OBAMA STARTS LIKE A ROOKIE”
Ronald Reagan was a well educated man ready to be president on the very first day in office. Barack Obama is no Reagan! He is poorly read and very shallow. The president elect is nowhere near ready for prime time. More importantly, he has not worked out his issues with white people. This is obviously apparent with the way Obama treated his own grandmother and Nancy Reagan. In back of Obama’s mind, I’m sure he considers the mostly white Israelis as victimizers of the darker skinned Palestinians.
“…come to the table with something constructive and we can fix this mess”
The hard core Palestinians are not interested in fixing “this mess.” They will not be content until all of the Jews have left the Middle East. Please stop deluding yourself. Negotiating 101 tactics are successful only when both sides are seeking a win-win solution. The Palestinians only want the Jews to lose.
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:35 am 5. LiberalEd:One of the very first things Obama will do secretly is to take major steps to destroy the black gangs of Chicago with whom he has had contacts for many years. These gangs kill people and distribute drugs and are very powerful. But, they could embarrass Obama because he has taken lots of money from them and dealt with rhem when he was a community organizer. Look for a major offensive in Chicago very early on.
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:40 am 6. Robert Hurley:You do realize that Rahm Emanuel is Jewish and his father was a member of the Irgun.
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:44 am 7. Chuck Pelto:TO: Robert Hurley
RE: Yeah?
So what?
As some Wag put it…
That Guy was Jewish too. And His Father is somewhat more powerful than the vaunted Irgun.
But I’ll wager you dollars to donuts that Rahm doesn’t recognize Him.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:53 am 8. glc:[Jesus astonishes and overpowers sensual people. They cannot unite him to history, or reconcile him with themselves. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson]
America has elected an inexperienced, arrogant, racist, Marxist, thug.
I did not vote for this guy.
I screamed from the rooftops that this guy was wrong for this country. But ignorance is contagious.
Hold onto your wallets and your guns and religion, folks, you’re going to need them.
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:55 am 9. David Thomson:“You do realize that Rahm Emanuel is Jewish and his father was a member of the Irgun. — Robert Hurley”
Rahn Emanuel was also part of the naively childish Clinton administration that is responsible for the murders of countless Jews. Good intentions are simply not enough. Barack Obama will most likely pursue policies that unwittingly will result in emboldening the Islamic crazies in the Middle East. Remember Robert Malley? Well, he’s back! American Jews like Marty Peretz were played for suckers.
Nov 11, 2008 - 10:12 am 10. Dave:“You do realize that Rahm Emanuel is Jewish and his father was a member of the Irgun.”
So its OK if you expand contacts with a group whose main and almost sole goal is the genocide of a people and destruction of a country as long as you are Jewish and your dad was the member of some group?
Get ready folks. Here comes feckless, incompetent, Madelaine Albright foreign policy again. Dictators and terrorists world wide are no doubt pleased.
Nov 11, 2008 - 10:17 am 11. don:As usual, there is no one for Israel to negotiate with in good faith. Period. Obama and company will be pissing into the wind, as usual. Nothing new, as usual. 61 percent of the eligible voters showed up in this election cycle, all most as usual; it was only 1 percent more than the last cycle. 53 percent of that 61 percent voted for Obama. That is, only 26 percent of the electorate voted for obama, hardly a mandate for the progressive revolution. Obama and company are ruling with a plurality, as usual. All we have to do is sit back and watch those people with good intentions make fools of themselves, as usual. The only question is whether to provide them with all the rope they want for their hanging.
Nov 11, 2008 - 10:39 am 12. WatchingOne:God help us. The gullible American people who vooted for someone of questionable character whose anti-Semitic associates were repeatedly exposed, is getting more than they bargained for. If we abandon Israel, we are in for trouble.
Nov 11, 2008 - 10:41 am 13. Douglas Bogle:LiberalEd,
Never fear Obama is here.
I have the feeling that those black gangs ( I can say that, right? )from Chicago, will be made part of the civilian security corps. Secretly.
Never fear Obama is here.
Nov 11, 2008 - 10:53 am 14. Karen:Arthur: What alarms me far more is that Obama lied ( once again) and that Jews were fooled (once again).Malley,Powers,Brzezinski,Khalidi etc. This one was such a no brainer too.Next time.. if it walks and quacks like a duck, its a donkey.
Nov 11, 2008 - 11:01 am 15. joe:The black gangs of Chicago! Just where do you think Curious Barry, the Marxist, got his idea for a national security corps? These gangs will be the cadre for this new security force.
Nov 11, 2008 - 11:13 am 16. Ms Attitude:LiberalEd: Those gangs are part of his useful idiots! Now that he’s done with them they are disposable.
I fear that this new administration has just opened a door that should’ve been left shut! I wouldn’t blame Isreal if they pulled out their big guns and went to shootin’ it up!!
Nov 11, 2008 - 11:13 am 17. cedarford:The US is a global power. It cannot be dictated to by people of a small country making lists of people it demands the global power never talk to.
We don’t care in other places and situations, just about US vital interests and almost always reject the notion that we would ever salute and say “Yes sir!” to the Russians demanding we stop talking to Chechen leaders, or Turks demanding we sever all ties and contacts with Kurdish rebels who have bombed and killed in the past. Or Sierra Leone demanding we show we love them by never talking to Ivory Coast.
The right-wing Zionist demand of diplomatic blacklisting is like a pack of junior high bitches demanding no one talk to Tara because she dated Brad without Christie agreeing to it because she hoped to get back together with Brad after their Big Breakup…
Yeah, Hamas has killed. Meaningless in context of a global power that has had to pursue diplomacy with far greater killers to serve our vital interests. Terrorists and Nations. From Jefferson to Nixon to Reagan.
Part of the reason Democrats have power is they made hay of Bush’s refusal to talk with Sharon’s “enemies”, and we saw American influence disappear in critical regions from disengagement. Now we will be back at it.
Many times nothing will come of talking…but the American public wants to resume the global realist approach Presidents Truman through Clinton took, and which Bush himself agreed to after the shellacking Republicans took in the 2006 elections helped spell the end of Neocon dominance of US foreign policy.
Nov 11, 2008 - 11:32 am 18. pmsuds:is it not true that contact with a listed terrorist group by
Nov 11, 2008 - 12:11 pm 19. Robert Hurley:a (supposedly) american citizen is a federal crime?
Chuck Pelto:
If a tree is know by its fruit, how should we know you?
Nov 11, 2008 - 12:41 pm 20. Saltherring:After January 20th, watch our relations with Israel sour and those with Islamic dictatorships and middle-eastern terrorist groups flourish. Clinton rolled out the Whitehouse red carpet for Arafat almost weekly, whereas Bush wouldn’t let terrorist scum like him in the service entrance. Also get ready for Obama to recognize Cuba and begin to favor Venezuela over Columbia.
Nov 11, 2008 - 12:55 pm 21. Chuck Pelto:TO: Robert Hurley
RE: If….
….you can’t figure that out. Don’t expect me to be able to explain it to you. You probably wouldn’t accept my report in the first place, anyway.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Nov 11, 2008 - 12:55 pm 22. Saltherring:[And behold among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding -- Proverbs]
Robert Hurley says:
“Chuck Pelto: If a tree is know by its fruit, how should we know you?”
How about as a heroic veteran who fought for America’s freedom. Happy Veterans Day, Chuck, with many more to come.
Nov 11, 2008 - 12:58 pm 23. naftali:Yep. I noticed how realistic it was to assume Yasser Arafat was a man of peace. Very realistic.
And speaking of realism–it’s a mistake to assume that Presidents make foreign policy in a vacuum. Truman went against the wishes of the State Dept. and recognized the State of Israel. Then Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson pretty much ignored Israel and followed the wishes of State. Only when the Arab Bloc, as it used to be called, fell in with the Soviets, did Nixon begin to strengthen ties with Israel.
The reason we are in such a precarious position regarding the Middle East isn’t because of the last 8 years but because of the previous “realistic” positions of experts and diplomats.
I still don’t know what you say to folks whose bottom line is genocide, the murder, once again, of 6 million Jews. What do you have in mind as a conversation starter?
And, one last thing, Cedarford, you might want to be realistic yourself and read a little bit of history.
Nov 11, 2008 - 12:59 pm 24. Chuck Pelto:TO: Saltherring
RE: [OT] God Willing
But there may be another fight coming….unfortunately. We’ll have to watch closely.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Nov 11, 2008 - 1:10 pm 25. Robert Hurley:[....against all enemies; foreign AND domestic.]
Chuck Pelto:
You seem to have a lot of anger in your responses. Where does that come from?
Nov 11, 2008 - 1:30 pm 26. Saltherring:“[....against all enemies; foreign AND domestic.]”
and with ever increasing emphasis on ‘domestic’……..
Nov 11, 2008 - 1:38 pm 27. Chuck Pelto:TO: All
RE: Robert Hurley & Projection
I seem to be getting close to the target….
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Nov 11, 2008 - 1:57 pm 28. Wahine:[You know you're getting close to the target because they start throwing more flak at you. -- US Air Force axiom]
Obama has another job for the gangs. At an appointed time (another Manufactured Crisis?) they (and others around the country perhaps) will help him create the necessary chaos and violence required to institute martial law/cessation of our gun rights.
Then he can round them up and make them part of his civilian force. Or, if he needs to look tough, throw them in jail. Whichever better serves his need at the time.
Nov 11, 2008 - 2:12 pm 29. Libsaremorons:You seem to have a lot of anger in your responses. Where does that come from? — Robert Hurley
From trolls like you I’m sure Robert
Nov 11, 2008 - 2:57 pm 30. Cletus:I disagree that Obama ain’t well read; he’s read Marx’s Manifesto so many times he knows it by heart.
By the way Here’s an intertube video my boy Bubs and I made on the subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrrdEgFp0H0
Nov 11, 2008 - 3:10 pm 31. Chuck Pelto:TO: Libsaremorons
RE: [OT] Robert Hurley
Actually….
…Robert doesn’t come across like the trolls I’m familiar with. I actually think there is a spark of curiosity in him.
People like BLIP and nick and Javelin and a goodly number of others are bona fide ‘trolls’. All they do is throw grenades indiscriminently about the area.
Robert is a bit different in that respect. He makes reasonably intelligent probes of someone’s ‘position’. As if he’s trying to determine the strengths and weaknesses of an argument or philosophy.
But, I do agree that maybe this latest ‘hate’ thing is an indication that maybe a nerve has been twigged.
I think it would be good if he were to start answering question asked of him, as he expects people to answer questions he puts to them.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Nov 11, 2008 - 3:27 pm 32. Gary Rosen:[Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.]
Before anyone listens to any of the garbage spewed out above by C-fudd (”Cedarford”), you better get a load of this:
http://minx.cc/?post=66320
That was a few years ago, but just a few weeks ago in Belmont Club he called a gentile who is sympathetic to Jews and Israel a “ball-licking Christian Zionist”. In short, ignore his rantings. Just trying to provide a truth-in-advertising service for PJM, thanks. Did I mention he is also a proven liar, many times over?
Nov 11, 2008 - 3:28 pm 33. joe hill:A guy who represent a terror group that is never to be trusted tells an Arab paper that people reprenting Obama met with members of the terror group via the Internet but the Americans were told not to reveal this and so our spokesman tells it to an Arab paper and now we know for sure that Obama consorts with terror groups! My god!
Nov 11, 2008 - 4:34 pm 34. SilentWatcher:70% of American Jews voted for Obama knowing that his advisors are anti-Semites and anti-Israel. For them, liberalism is not Judaism is their religion. Self-preservation, meh, what’s that? Fellas, you bought it; it’s yours to keep. Enjoy it. I’ll be praying for the safety of Israel.
Nov 11, 2008 - 4:37 pm 35. fred lapides:Mr Thompson: Obama is stupid? graduates at top of law school class at Harvard and he is stupid? Knows nothing and is not ready for the job? Ok. Try this, then. Obama has as much time, perhaps a bit more, than Abe Lincoln when Lincoln became president. On the first day as president, Lincoln handed a note from commander at Ft Sumpter warning that he would have to evacuate the fort or might be blockaded or fired upon: what should he do? Guess what? Abe took the task in hand and won the Civil War…now try again and again and again. Get over it. Obama won the votes of a lot of America and McCain did not. Guess why?
Nov 11, 2008 - 4:38 pm 36. SilentWatcher:Karen, Jews aren’t morons. Nobody fooled ‘em. They actively chose Obama because liberalism is their religion, and they don’t care how anti-Semitic the guy is as long as he’s a liberal.
Nov 11, 2008 - 4:40 pm 37. not MY president:Fred, how do you know he graduated at the top?
Nov 11, 2008 - 4:49 pm 38. livermoron:Cedarford – you maintain that the neocon’s dominated foreign policy…yet the sentence prior to that states otherwise. I am obviously confused.
Mr. Lapides: You appear to be projecting. I see no where that any Mr. Thompson called Mr. Obama ’stupid’. Shallow and comparatively un-read, yes.
Barack is president, indeed. It is fair to point out his lack of personal accomplishment. Please show me how he got into Columbia and then Harvard. He was a self-admited boozer, drug user/pusher in HS who made poor grades yet got into both those schools. Why won’t he allow the release of his transcripts? Is it not fair to criticize and ask for clarification.
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:10 pm 39. Jason Sieckmann:McCain won the votes of what? 48-49 million people. That strikes me as a lot. What scale are you using?
You aren’t really surprised that an elected leader isn’t doing what he says he’ll do, right? Remember when Bush was going to get Bin Laden? How about Bush’s meetings with that ‘terrorist’ Sadam Hussein? We empower terrorists and states like Israel to act tyranical through our foreign policy; that way we can pressure other countries into doing what we want them to do.
Of course, that may seem okay to you, until the government does it to you through taxes, the draft, and imminent domain.
Nov 11, 2008 - 5:57 pm 40. James Westlake:glc,
“America has elected an inexperienced, arrogant, racist, Marxist, thug.”
It has but that is in the past (though I have never heard Bush described as a Marxist before). Let us look to the future and praise God that we now have Obama!
westlake
Nov 11, 2008 - 6:16 pm 41. Obama-Hamas contacts spell trouble:[...] http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reported-obama-hamas-contacts-bode-ill/ [...]
Nov 11, 2008 - 7:26 pm 42. Pay Attention:—How about Bush’s meetings with that ‘terrorist’ Sadam Hussein?
There are drugs that reduce fantastical thinking. I hear they have come down in price lately. You’d better stock up.
Nov 11, 2008 - 7:37 pm 43. Gary Rosen:“Of course, that may seem okay to you, until the government does it to you through taxes, the draft, and imminent domain.”
Sickman, it’s eminent domain you ignoramus – well I guess you had proven that long ago anyway. And it’s BO, not the Republicans, who is talking about bringing back the draft which has not been in effect for 35 years.
Nov 11, 2008 - 8:15 pm 44. Gary Rosen:“Cedarford – you maintain that the neocon’s dominated foreign policy…yet the sentence prior to that states otherwise. I am obviously confused.”
No confusion at all – as I already stated, C-fudd is a compulsive liar.
Nov 11, 2008 - 8:17 pm 45. Rob134:The ignorance of most of the posters in this type venue is staggering. I truly do not know how some of these paranoid conspiracy buffs manage to cloth themselves in the morning, much less keep a job. They open their mouths and the most ridiculous things come out. They have obviously never read Obama’s books, believe only what they get from e-mails sent by other fools, and have no knowledge of history, economics, sociology, or the structure and function of government.
Go back to your beer, your guns, your religion, and your hatred, and leave the civilized among us alone. Move to Alaska and worship your Sarah Palin messiah where you can’t do any more harm to this country.
Nov 11, 2008 - 8:50 pm 46. Drill:Gotta agree with Rob134 on this one. You people are nutso! For real. Take a deeeeep breath and repeat to yourself, “The country will be ok. The country will be ok.”
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:12 pm 47. Judy, NYC:“some arabs say…” that hamas and obama are secretly meeting. yeah. the same arabs who were saying arabs supported mccain for president. the same arabs who were engaged in “peace talks” while digging holes in the ground where they could hide (in the mandated UN buffer zone – ruled a no-man’s land on the lebanese border) so they could murder israelis. anyone who believes what arabs have to say, knows zero about their culture, and even less about israel. indeed, the same jew hating arab lovers who are, of course, pro-arab and anti-israel, are so immersed in their weird worldview they forget it’s their heads the arab miscreants want to chop off.
Nov 11, 2008 - 9:29 pm 48. Gary Rosen:Rob134 – I’ve got a better-paying job than you and a much higher IQ. Obama has been running for POTUS most of his adult life and his books (two “autobiographies” from a man who hasn’t accomplished as much in his life as Palin) can be considered campaign propaganda. Of course your position that all we need to know about BO comes from his own books is the one the media took. Imagine if Palin could have written her own news stories!
“Go back to your beer, your guns, your religion, and your hatred, and leave the civilized among us alone.” No need to, got plenty of hatred right here in your post (not to mention C-fudd’s).
Nov 11, 2008 - 11:04 pm 49. Terri:@ Rob134 | 8:50 pm,
Typical elitist tripe from yet another intolerant unhinged liberal. Don’t you tire of it ever? Are you aware that your brazen ignorance contributes very little, serving no one and no purpose except to solely embarrass yourself? I guess you could care less.
A++ for narrow mindedness!
Nov 12, 2008 - 2:23 am 50. LibMeNoMore:Ok, so speaking of these Chicago gangs and disappearing them to hide the association, how goes the investigation into the alleged (convenient) murder of Donald Young?
Nov 12, 2008 - 5:42 am 51. Jules Crittenden » Voters Get:[...] Speaking of voters getting what voters deserve, Obama camp had talks with another people’s choice: Hamas. [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:15 am 52. Radio Vice Online » Did Obama advisers meet with Hamas pre-election?:[...] Hornik at Pajamas Media has a detailed report. In an interview published Tuesday in the London-based Al-Hayat, Dr. Ahmad Yousef, political [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:25 am 53. Dewey Napoleon - the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing » This is insidious and dangerous:[...] though, that assurance was inoperative even when Obama gave it. Yesterday, in an interview in the London-based Al-Hayat, Ahmad Yousef, political adviser to Hamas’s Prime Minister, said that Obama’s aides [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:38 am 54. SAF:There are signs within Israel that they are being pushed to a suicidal pact. Those would be:
* No deterrence of west bank attacks
* Ohlmart insisting on immediate withdrawal from Jerusalem, the west bank and Golan heights with no quid pro quo
* No countermoves to Syrian arms and material movement to Israeli/Lebanese border
Hamas is very honest. They refuse to remove from their charter the destruction of Israel as a stated goal. So if Obama gets them to remove it that would be great. If he gets Israel to agree to some retreat and tell them to ignore this minor thing of destruction of Israel in the charter then we know he is selling them down the tubes.
So until one or the other or a war happens anything we say Obama will or won’t do is pure speculation.
Having secret talks in and of themselves isn’t a bad thing. One could argue that having those talks before he got elected was a tad presumptuous.
Let us see what the results will be. Its too late to argue if Obama is good or bad for doing this, he won the election.
If the results aren’t to your liking you can always vote him out in 2012.
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:49 am 55. hp:@SAF not 2012.
i hear tell it’s only until 2010.
two years.
congress.
the same way they did the last two years.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:15 am 56. Rafi Schutzer:BIO: Robert Malley
Robert Malley was born in 1963 to Barbara (née Silverstein) Malley, a New Yorker who worked for the United Nations delegation of the Algerian National Liberation Front, and her husband, Simon Malley (1923–2006), an Egyptian-born Jewish journalist who grew up in Egypt and worked as a foreign correspondent for Al Goumhourya, a newspaper linked closely to Gamal Abdul Nasser’s government. The elder Malley spent time in New York, writing about international affairs, particularly about nationalist, anti-imperial movements in Africa, and made a key contribution by putting the FLN on the world map.[3]
In 1969, the elder Malley moved his family — including son Robert — to France, where he founded the magazine Africasia (later known as Afrique Asia), which gave voice to the causes of the newly-independent states such as Algeria and Egypt, and to liberation struggles throughout the world. The elder Malley became a well-known journalist, and was posthumously described by The Guardian as “one of the best known Francophone journalists of his generation, with a rare knowledge of Africa’s anti-colonial struggles and the dramas of the continent’s newly independent states.” [3] Simon Malley also was a founder of the Egyptian Communist Party. [1]
The Malleys remained in France until 1980, when President Valéry Giscard d’Estaing briefly expelled Simon Malley from the country to New York.[3] A sympathetic crew member on his airline flight did not inform U.S. authorities that Malley was on the plane and instead got him on the first plane back to Europe. The elder Malley spent eight months editing his journal in Geneva, and returned to France after Francois Mitterrand’s election.
Obama’s Anti-Semitic Middle East Advisor is A Jew
He is a traitor just like his father who worked for Nasser in Egypt.
Robert Malley attended Yale University, and was a 1984 Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University, where he earned a Ph.D. in political philosophy. There he wrote his doctoral thesis about Third-worldism and its decline. Malley continued writing about foreign policy, including extended commentary about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He earned a J.D. at Harvard Law School, where he met his future wife, Caroline Brown.[4] Another fellow law school student was Barack Obama. [5] In 1991-1992, Malley clerked for Supreme Court Justice Byron White, while Brown clerked for Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor. As of 2008, the couple has two boys, Miles and Blaise, and one daughter, Frances.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:36 am 57. Nestor:I’m proud that the new US president isn’t a pawn for Israel — a country every bit as corrupt and self-serving the Arab states surrounding it. Let Israel *earn* US support for a change. Once Obama’s alternate energy plans work and the US is weaned off Middle Eastern oil, Israel ceases to have any strategic value and becomes irrelevant anyway.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:45 am 58. Beamer:“Obama has another job for the gangs. At an appointed time (another Manufactured Crisis?) they (and others around the country perhaps) will help him create the necessary chaos and violence required to institute martial law/cessation of our gun rights.”
We don’t need a reason. I’m part of Obama’s security force, and I’m not even black. And, yes, your guns *will* be taken away. And we’re also keeping a very close eye on the traitors who voted for Bush in 2004, after it was known that he lied about Iraq and conducted an illegal war. We are in the early stages of devising a plan to punish these traitors. And you *will* be punished. It’s a new day in America.
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:49 am 59. John Carpenter:The results of the election are less then 10-days old and it’s something everyday–a sophomoric crack at Nancy Regan, the selection of a Chief of Staff who sent a dead fish to a writer at the Washington Post who wrote an unflattering article about him, his staffers leaking the contents of confidential discussions in the Oval Office with President Bush, and now the news that Obama has greenlighted aides to have backchannel discussions with a terrorist group–months before he was elected.
WHATEVER could have lead anyone with less than a mosh-pit mentality to believe a guy like this was the answer to any question other than, “What Senator is known primarily
Nov 12, 2008 - 7:54 am 60. Lesson #3: Obama believes HIS words mean more than HIS actions « Sharp Right Turn:for one speech he gave and his two autobiographies?”
[...] crash course on the terrorist group that is Hamas from Pajamas Media: Hamas was founded in December 1987 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin — killed seventeen years later in an [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 8:49 am 61. Hamas and Obama advisers met says Yousef « Pecanpii’s Weblog:[...] Obama advisers met secretly with Hamas during campaign http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reported-obama-hamas-contacts-bode-ill/ [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 9:17 am 62. Secret Meetings With Hamas? « Watching The Nation:[...] the full article here at, get this, [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 10:22 am 63. saleboter:Barack – all thunder, no rain
Nov 12, 2008 - 11:00 am 64. Obama: “That’s Not The Dr. Ahmad Yousef I Know” | Democrat=Socialist:[...] Pajama’s Media Reports: [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 11:02 am 65. tanstaafl:…graduates at top of law school class at Harvard and he is stupid?
O’s rank at graduation as well as his grades at Harvard and (previously) Columbia have never been made public.
Let’s try to keep this thing honest, kinda sorta.
He bloviates well enough to appeal to enough individuals who’ve themselves have been mis-eddukated within American public education.
Now they ardently defend him although they, nor anyone else, has a clue how he might govern. Maybe the promise to give them “stuff” was enough to earn their vote.
They have obviously never read Obama’s books…
O, when challenged on some statements in his books, acknowledged they are a pastiche of memory, truth & fiction. If you fell for the shtick, you probably think his womanizing, radical, and, finally, alcoholic Daddy was kind of cool, too.
Nov 12, 2008 - 12:09 pm 66. ChooseTheHero.com » Blog Archive » More Lies From Obama, Re: Hamas:[...] Go read the rest. [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 12:11 pm 67. tanstaafl:Hell, the “palestinian thing” has been going on since the inception of Israel in the lat 40’s.
Arab countries have been trying to destroy the tiny, new state for the duration and a few (like Egypt & Jordan) finally gave up and made “peace”. (at least peace on paper)
As I recall, the Hamas Charter doesn’t mention Israel by name (I might be wrong) and has been dedicated from the outset that the state of Israel (aka “the zionist entity”) doesn’t even exist.
Maybe if Israel gets freed up from US “support” (a lot of good those countless Camp Davids and so forth with cretins like Arafat have done) they might finally let loose on the idiots in Gaza who, themselves, have devastated the lives of Palestinians who simply wanted a chance at peaceful, productive lives.
Nov 12, 2008 - 12:29 pm 68. Big Ben:C-ford has been engaging in anti-Semitic innuendos on this amd other threads, creatively using and mixing the Pre-WWII slander of conflicted loyalty ( America First), the currently vogue Left attack phrase (Neo-con) and the old Soviet anti-Semitic (Golum) put down.
As John McCain said, America will not allow a second Holocaust.This is a consensus American opinion not restricted to “Neo-con” and their Christian conservative friends (the alleged “Golum”).
Nov 12, 2008 - 1:17 pm 69. Obama Camp violating Logan Act again, breaking promise, negotiating with terrorists | WinkyDog:Sorry C-ford, maybe you can obtain consolation by visiting you friends in Gaza City.
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Nov 12, 2008 - 2:22 pm 70. Did the Obama Campaign Hold Secret Talks with Hamas? « LGF II: Charles and Killgore Free Footballs:[...] in Arab media that the Obama campaign held secret talks with Hamas and asked them not to reveal it: Reported Obama-Hamas Contacts Bode Ill. In an interview published Tuesday in the London-based Al-Hayat, Dr. Ahmad Yousef, political [...]
Nov 12, 2008 - 6:54 pm 71. Marc Malone:I wouldn’t normally find this claim credible, except for the fact that Obama, while in Iraq, illegally pressured Maliki. Would he have held such negotiations with Hamas, too? Methinks so. Two words: Logan Act.
Nov 13, 2008 - 1:13 am 72. marcia:OH MY GOD. OUR NEW PRESIDENT IS HAVING ON GOING TALKS WITH A TERROISTS GROUP.I AM BEGINNING TO THINK CLINTON WASNT AS BAD AS I THOUGHT. TJE ARTICLE EVEN SUGGESTED HAMAS WAS GLAD OBAMA WON.I HAVE A FEELING WE ARE IN TROUBLE.
Nov 13, 2008 - 12:25 pm 73. marcia:Cedarford you are a scary person. Naturally we are partial to Israel they share our values and beliefs and they are our friends. You side with your friends, nothing evil or bitchy about this.
Nov 13, 2008 - 12:54 pm 74. Roy McCray:Read 2nd Chronicals 7:14
Nov 13, 2008 - 1:00 pm 75. MADU:The Book of Revelation
The American people has been misled. The final battle between good and evil is in the horizon. The election of Obama is just the beginning. Be prepared, the false messiah had arrived.
Nov 13, 2008 - 1:11 pm 76. The Historian:RADICAL POLITICIANS WILL DESTROY OBAMA
The far left in Congress is on track to ruin the Obama administration:
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/radical-politicians-will-destroy-obama.html
Nov 13, 2008 - 9:10 pm 77. Friday morning drive-by « DPGI - the aftermath:[...] coupled with reports that Team Obama is already talking to Hamas lends credence to the comment: A clash between Obama’s public, anodyne, mainstream statements and [...]
Nov 14, 2008 - 9:50 am 78. kevin c:remember those THUG PUNKS IN KANSAS CITY MARCHING INTO THE CLASSROOM? THATS COMMIE BARRYS WAFFEN SS. BY THE WAY COMMIES-ERNST ROEHM, THE FOUNDER OF THE NAZI STROM TROOPERS WAS A HOMOSEXUAL JEW-GUESS WHICH ONE HE FOLLOWED? CERTAINLY NOT HIS RELIGION. FELIX DZERSHINSKY, THE FOUNDER OF LENINS NKVD WAS ALSO JEWISH. CERTAINLY HE CONSIDERED COMMUNISM AS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE TORAH. EVERYTHING ABOUT BOLSHEVIK BARRY SMELLS OF TOTALITARIAN. JOIN THE MILITIA, AND REALIZE ONE THING. YOUR COUNTY SHERIFF HAS MUCH AUTHORITY. MAKE SURE THE GOOD ONES(LIKE JOE ARPAIO OF MARICOPA COUNTY,ARIZONA) KNOW IT.
Nov 14, 2008 - 1:17 pm 79. kevin c:malley is a rhodesw scholar? THAT EXPLAINS A LOT. THE WHOLE RHODES SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM AND THE INTL BACCALAUREATE PROGRAM IS TO PROMOTE ONE WORLD COMMUNIST STYLE GOVERNMENT. NOTED RHODES SCHOLARS INCLUDE THE LIKES OF BUBBA CLINTON AND GEORGE SOROS SON ALEXANDER. JUST THOSE TWO ALONE SHOULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT THATS ABOUT. CECIL RHODES WOULD BE EMBARASSED. HEY MR MALLEY-MAYBE YOU CAN “NEGOTIATE” AN “AGREEMENT” WITH YOUR PAL COMMIE MUGABE. SOMETHING ABOUT TURNING ZIMBABWE FOR A BREAD BASKET INTO A BASKET CASE.
Nov 14, 2008 - 1:32 pm 80. kevin c:OH BY THE WAY LIBCOMMIE SCUM SUCKERS-HOW MUCH OF THE $ GIVEN TO THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY ENDED UP IN YES SIR IM A FARTS SLUSH FUND IN A GENEVA BANK? FUNNY HOW SUWA YOUR A FART ENDED UP WITH A LUJXURY PAD IN PAREE WHILE YES SIR IM A FART WAS HIDING IN HIS RAMALLAH SQUALOR. SEEMS SORTA LIKE CHICAGO POLITICIANS.
Nov 14, 2008 - 1:37 pm