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What a load of rubbish. The Israel Lobby in the US has done everything to secure disgusting amounts of US aid to murder Palestinian children and thwart every meaningful attempt at a peace effort, spurning every peace gesture from Hamas and the PA. Israel doesn’t want peace, it wants expansion, and the terrorists are the ones sitting in the Israeli cabinet. I don’t see the PA invading its neighbors and continuing its illegal settlements. The article ignores the bellicose incitement in the expansionist apartheid settler state Israel, where children are taught to hate the Palestinians whose land they have stolen.

The feckless President George W. Bush is a politically correct whack job. He has a very difficult time dealing with the evils committed by dark skinned people.
Things, however, could have been worse. Al Gore, Jr. and John Kerry are even a greater threat to Israel. Bush is still the lesser of evils.

We must hold on until Bush leaves office and hopefully John McCain takes over the reins of government. What happens if either Barack “Barry” Obama or Hillary Clinton wins the contest? In that case, both Israel and the United States are royally screwed. Western Civilization will likely enter into a new dark age.

This article is terrific, even thought the news is distressing. The enemy seems to have been able to morph from “terrorist” to “legitimate” with a signing of a paper, and change of thought. However, the true colors of this enemy lie not with political agendas of a lame duck president, but years of indoctrination and hatred that some funds and a quick uniform change will not hide. We are again, arming our enemy.

“spurning every peace gesture from Hamas and the PA”.
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What the hell kind of “peace” gestures could you be talking about? Firing qassam rockets? Inciting children to hate and murder Jews?

“The article ignores the bellicose incitement in the expansionist apartheid settler state Israel, where children are taught to hate the Palestinians whose land they have stolen”.
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peacemonger, the above statement is an inversion of reality. The incitement is all coming from the “palestinian” side. Israeli schools do not incite to hate and kill muslims and Arabs. And the Arabs are the ones who have stolen Jewish land. All of the land of Israel is historically Jewish.

So Bush has said that those who harbor or supply the enemy are the enemy as well.

Um… should we be bombing ourselves then or … um…what?

Yeah. It sounded good in a state of the union address, Dubya, but maybe we should invest our money in America’s interests and national defense instead of throwing lives and money to the middle eastern whackos.

You can never solve a problem by throwing money at it.

The idea that the land that your ancestors lived on belongs to you because of your bloodline is an absurd claim. I don’t see anyone rushing to give the Americas back to its native peoples, yet we believe that the Jews deserve a special little place carved out of the already volatile situation in the Middle East. Am I saying that they shouldn’t be allowed to live there? Of course not, but you can’t simply destroy the homes of the people that now live there, so that you can move in yourself. If a Native American came to me and said, “Hey, you know, my ancestors used to live on this land before your ancestors stole it, so I think I have the right to take it back from you.”, I might feel bad for them, but I’m not going to give them my land that is privately owned. That is absurd; one cannot be held accountable for the actions of their predecessors. Do you still consider all Jews guilty of Jesus’ conviction and supposed execution (it’s actually unlikely that he died on the cross, but that is an entirely different public misconception)? So regardless of who the land belonged to before, the Israeli state is still the initial instigator of violence in their own land because they are trying to take back something that they have no claim to. And if you think that using tanks, airplanes and a military controlled by the state makes them any less of terrorists, then you are simply turning a blind eye to the truth. Israel murders innocent men, women and children just a thoroughly as the Palestinian terrorists do, they just have better tools to do it with. I don’t condone the terrorist attacks that cause innocent lives to be lost, but I cannot say that I wouldn’t do the same thing, and neither can anybody until they are faced with a bulldozer destroying their home, complete with the guarantee of physical harm if you don’t go peacefully. All sponsored by your tax dollars.

I think the two of you are Saudi sock-puppets. But I write this for those who come upon this thread and don’t know what to think.

“you can’t simply destroy the homes of the people that now live there, so that you can move in yourself.”

The vast majority of the homes built in Israel were built after 1920 and were never lived in by Arabs. And the Jews built the electrical plants and indoor plumbing and modern roads and hospitals, which the Arabs enjoy.

In fact every time Israel tries to route the border so an Arab village is part of palestine rather than Israel, the locals protest mightily. They would rather live in Israel than in the corrupt violent dysfunctional world of Fatah and Hamas, including Arabs in East Jerusalem. israel and Jordan are the only countries in the Middle East where Palestinians can be full citizens. Arab women have more civil rights in Israel than anywhere in the Arab world.

So if the Jews live under the Arabs, the Arab standard of living takes a serious dive.

Jews have been living there continuously for 3500 years. We have been repeatedly ethnically cleansed - by the Babylonians, the Romans, the Muslims, the Crusaders, since 1880, Arab rioters. We have been driven from our homes.

“Palestine” has never been a country. The last people who owned it before the West came in were the Ottoman Turks, and it was a backwater province. Turkey doesn’t want it. So why are the Arabs who have lived there entitled to make it a country more so than the Jews who have lived there for longer? Why is their bloodline more important?

Thirty billion to Israel over the next ten years from the tax payers of the USA. What for, to continue to steal and build on Palestinian land, more bulldozers to smash poor peoples homes? I am ashamed of my own people. Listen to Uri Avnery, a real Israeli war hero and understand what he says about the occupation of the palestinian home land.

There’s some great Nazi satire in this thread.

Bush’s lavish, continued funding of the Palestinian Authority is an irrational act. Stalin’s destruction of millions of Ukranian wheat farmers, although venal beyond measure, was not.

For Stalin was ruthlessly executing a logical next step in a socialist revolution. Bush’s PA funding seeks to curry favor with the country, Saudi Arabia, that more than any other is devoted to the destruction of the USA. Makes no sense.

The strongest country in the world, the USA, is funding thousands of known murderers, the PA, to please the rulers of one of the world’s weakest countries, Saudi Arabia.

Once again, what could be more irrational?

Ehrenfeld and Lappen call the reality as it is too often obfuscated by people less acquainted with the facts than they. How many more dollars can the US afford to weaponize into bullets and blood against our own? How many years need we tsk tsk over the tragedy of violence unpalliated? How many US Presidents will continue to shovel dollars at a lethal rabble intoxicated with their own intimidation of the innocent?

marion d s dreyfus

Can we legally target USAID as an ‘illicit’ Muslim Brotherhood “Charity”? Of course, I’m asking the question quasi-rhetorically — but only semi-facetiously.

Given the covertly-awful truth of the article, can you imagine turning the original, provocative, civil complaint against Al-Arian’s group into a ‘Qui Tam’ action against USAID contractors?

Where is Sammy Al-Arian when we really need him? Or did Bush-Cheney tap him to administer billions in U.S. aid by USAID to progeny of the Muslim Brotherhood?