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		<title>By: naftali</title>
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		<dc:creator>naftali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted here a few weeks ago and someone warned me not to even respond to Cedarford.  Just another heads up.

That said, I think Germany&#039;s policy is more an indication of Europe&#039;s profound economic weakness.  Germany have never had raw materials, and since the industrial revolution they were never as successful as they needed to be in developing colonies.  It&#039;s  impossible to run a modern industrial capitalist society without trade and raw materials.  This is a fundamental problem with all of Europe--because they aren&#039;t as committed to freedom and democracy, or capitalism for that matter, as other nations.  Their treaties and agreements are only as strong as their currencies.  

This should tell the US that the old Cold War Alliances are quite fragile, drawn with dotted lines.  India is a more important alliance, so is Brazil, not to mention Israel, with its advances in technology and discoveries in science and medicine.  

Cedarford better hope he doesn&#039;t get sick, because somewhere along the line of treatment, he will benefit from the production of Israel.

Regarding a Iran&#039;s nukes--international politics is more of a game of white knuckle survival rather than mutual friendship.  Israel will do what it needs to do.  Stalin had a plan to continue the Holocaust--had the camps built and everything.  As many know, he suffered a debilitating stroke on Purim and died a few days later. The plan was never activated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted here a few weeks ago and someone warned me not to even respond to Cedarford.  Just another heads up.</p>
<p>That said, I think Germany&#8217;s policy is more an indication of Europe&#8217;s profound economic weakness.  Germany have never had raw materials, and since the industrial revolution they were never as successful as they needed to be in developing colonies.  It&#8217;s  impossible to run a modern industrial capitalist society without trade and raw materials.  This is a fundamental problem with all of Europe&#8211;because they aren&#8217;t as committed to freedom and democracy, or capitalism for that matter, as other nations.  Their treaties and agreements are only as strong as their currencies.  </p>
<p>This should tell the US that the old Cold War Alliances are quite fragile, drawn with dotted lines.  India is a more important alliance, so is Brazil, not to mention Israel, with its advances in technology and discoveries in science and medicine.  </p>
<p>Cedarford better hope he doesn&#8217;t get sick, because somewhere along the line of treatment, he will benefit from the production of Israel.</p>
<p>Regarding a Iran&#8217;s nukes&#8211;international politics is more of a game of white knuckle survival rather than mutual friendship.  Israel will do what it needs to do.  Stalin had a plan to continue the Holocaust&#8211;had the camps built and everything.  As many know, he suffered a debilitating stroke on Purim and died a few days later. The plan was never activated.</p>
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		<title>By: David P</title>
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		<dc:creator>David P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric R, cedarford,  

It&#039;s up the United States to quell Iran&#039;s impure nuclear ambitions when all diplomatic options have been exhausted, if we don&#039;t, we fail.  The USA will not reside comfortably in the future staring down a nuclear Tehran.  

Preemptive fallout on all levels greatly outweigh the atrocities of a crude and even marginally successful nuclear campaign. 

Do the Mullahs really think they don&#039;t have to play by the rules of humanity? 

Yes - with the U.N. behaving as both an accessory &amp; platform for their intended crimes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric R, cedarford,  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s up the United States to quell Iran&#8217;s impure nuclear ambitions when all diplomatic options have been exhausted, if we don&#8217;t, we fail.  The USA will not reside comfortably in the future staring down a nuclear Tehran.  </p>
<p>Preemptive fallout on all levels greatly outweigh the atrocities of a crude and even marginally successful nuclear campaign. </p>
<p>Do the Mullahs really think they don&#8217;t have to play by the rules of humanity? </p>
<p>Yes &#8211; with the U.N. behaving as both an accessory &amp; platform for their intended crimes</p>
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		<title>By: Eric R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cedarford,

The world wide hunting down of Jews would occur with ANY retaliation by Israel, even if nukes are limited only to the Middle East.

Even such an Israeli attack would destroy much of the world&#039;s oil infrastructure, and a collapse of the world economy, impoverishing the entire world. That would cause the same desire to punish the Jews -- plus you would have 1+ billion Muslims, already infected with a crazed genocidal hatred of Jews, wanting revenge for 100 million dead co-religionists.

And while your responses here indicate that you think that the answer if for Israel and the Jews to do nothing and go quietly to extermination once again, not even a wimpy Labour government would do that.

So if doomed, Israel should take as many of its enemies down as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cedarford,</p>
<p>The world wide hunting down of Jews would occur with ANY retaliation by Israel, even if nukes are limited only to the Middle East.</p>
<p>Even such an Israeli attack would destroy much of the world&#8217;s oil infrastructure, and a collapse of the world economy, impoverishing the entire world. That would cause the same desire to punish the Jews &#8212; plus you would have 1+ billion Muslims, already infected with a crazed genocidal hatred of Jews, wanting revenge for 100 million dead co-religionists.</p>
<p>And while your responses here indicate that you think that the answer if for Israel and the Jews to do nothing and go quietly to extermination once again, not even a wimpy Labour government would do that.</p>
<p>So if doomed, Israel should take as many of its enemies down as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Anat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Kuentzel, you are a true and courageous fighter for truth, peace and justice.
I apologize for all those who, in some of the previous comments, lumped all Germans together. They obviously forgot that you too is a German. Moreover, I know for fact that you are not alone. 
I think the Israeli government should eventually give you some kind of decoration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Kuentzel, you are a true and courageous fighter for truth, peace and justice.<br />
I apologize for all those who, in some of the previous comments, lumped all Germans together. They obviously forgot that you too is a German. Moreover, I know for fact that you are not alone.<br />
I think the Israeli government should eventually give you some kind of decoration.</p>
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		<title>By: cedarford</title>
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		<dc:creator>cedarford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;myth buster:
And God will defend Israel regardless of what anybody else thinks.&lt;/i&gt;

Phew! Then I guess we can wash our hands of them knowing Yahweh will look after their butts like he did against the Romans or in WWII!

***********
&lt;i&gt;Eric R.:
 

Cedarford,

If Israel were nuked, she is gone. It would be a second Holocaust. There would be no consequences in that case to Israel to an obliteration of Europe.&lt;/i&gt;

But there would be huge consequences to Jews outside Israel. Those backers of Zionism would be hunted down like rabid dogs, on a global basis, if the Zionists nuked Europe, Russia, America, or Mecca..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>myth buster:<br />
And God will defend Israel regardless of what anybody else thinks.</i></p>
<p>Phew! Then I guess we can wash our hands of them knowing Yahweh will look after their butts like he did against the Romans or in WWII!</p>
<p>***********<br />
<i>Eric R.:</p>
<p>Cedarford,</p>
<p>If Israel were nuked, she is gone. It would be a second Holocaust. There would be no consequences in that case to Israel to an obliteration of Europe.</i></p>
<p>But there would be huge consequences to Jews outside Israel. Those backers of Zionism would be hunted down like rabid dogs, on a global basis, if the Zionists nuked Europe, Russia, America, or Mecca..</p>
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		<title>By: myth buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>myth buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And God will defend Israel regardless of what anybody else thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And God will defend Israel regardless of what anybody else thinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cedarford,

If Israel were nuked, she is gone. It would be a second Holocaust. There would be no consequences in that case to Israel to an obliteration of Europe.

Because there would be no Israel left to have consequences.

As for Americans being angry, given the disgust with conservative and centrist Americans with Europe, I think only our politically correct leftist elites would shed a tear over a continent that betrayed the USA and that never got over its irrational hatred of the Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cedarford,</p>
<p>If Israel were nuked, she is gone. It would be a second Holocaust. There would be no consequences in that case to Israel to an obliteration of Europe.</p>
<p>Because there would be no Israel left to have consequences.</p>
<p>As for Americans being angry, given the disgust with conservative and centrist Americans with Europe, I think only our politically correct leftist elites would shed a tear over a continent that betrayed the USA and that never got over its irrational hatred of the Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: cedarford</title>
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		<dc:creator>cedarford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Anonymous:

So, Eric R, Bosch selling washing machines to housewives in Tehran means that Israel should nuke Berlin, Paris and Brussels?

It’s a good job that extremists like you have no political power or we’d all be screwed. Thankfully Israel is more sensible than you.

Iran’s major trade partners are actually China, India, Germany, South Korea, Japan, France, Russia and Italy. So presumably the people of Beijing, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Mumbai, Dehli, Calcutta, Seoul, Tokyo, Osaka and Moscow also deserve to die by your twisted logic.&lt;/i&gt;

Concur.

Anonymous doesn&#039;t get into consequences, and fortunately Israel is far more sensible than a punk kid like Eric R. shooting his mouth off, but if such an attack on the West, China, Japan, Russia was ever undertaken - you have 5-6 nuclear powers bound by treaty and UN-endorsed right to self-defense, free to legally retaliate with the most extreme of measures.

Then in the aftermath, there would be the matter of what portion of the wealth of overseas supporters of Israel would have to be seized for reparations. Even matters of continued citizenship for supporters of Israel and what level of safety they would be afforded.

Even in America. Do not think that even here, wiping out our NATO ally&#039;s cities - of people America has long and fond links with, plus the impact of what destroying Rome would have in a Christian religious context - would be anything but catastrophic for Jews, even Christian Zionists. 

Supporters of Israel would not escape the harshest of consequences from a virulently angry American public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Anonymous:</p>
<p>So, Eric R, Bosch selling washing machines to housewives in Tehran means that Israel should nuke Berlin, Paris and Brussels?</p>
<p>It’s a good job that extremists like you have no political power or we’d all be screwed. Thankfully Israel is more sensible than you.</p>
<p>Iran’s major trade partners are actually China, India, Germany, South Korea, Japan, France, Russia and Italy. So presumably the people of Beijing, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Mumbai, Dehli, Calcutta, Seoul, Tokyo, Osaka and Moscow also deserve to die by your twisted logic.</i></p>
<p>Concur.</p>
<p>Anonymous doesn&#8217;t get into consequences, and fortunately Israel is far more sensible than a punk kid like Eric R. shooting his mouth off, but if such an attack on the West, China, Japan, Russia was ever undertaken &#8211; you have 5-6 nuclear powers bound by treaty and UN-endorsed right to self-defense, free to legally retaliate with the most extreme of measures.</p>
<p>Then in the aftermath, there would be the matter of what portion of the wealth of overseas supporters of Israel would have to be seized for reparations. Even matters of continued citizenship for supporters of Israel and what level of safety they would be afforded.</p>
<p>Even in America. Do not think that even here, wiping out our NATO ally&#8217;s cities &#8211; of people America has long and fond links with, plus the impact of what destroying Rome would have in a Christian religious context &#8211; would be anything but catastrophic for Jews, even Christian Zionists. </p>
<p>Supporters of Israel would not escape the harshest of consequences from a virulently angry American public.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Steynian 291 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Israpundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; JCPA accuses Norway and Seeden of antisemitism.</dc:creator>
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