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		<title>By: william B</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/schools-unleash-eco-kids-to-badger-their-parents/comment-page-2/#comment-175707</link>
		<dc:creator>william B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a good  undeserved spanking from the media&#039;s for being a pest, just remember they&#039;re still our little ECO KIDS and it&#039;s going to be their world.  It&#039;s our mess that they have been left to clean up and the world&#039;s ECO KIDS are trying to do it the best way they know how as kids, probably not too differently then what you would have done at their age if you had been giving a similar challenge; so give the  ECO KIDS a pat on the back  instead of the smack, it just may go a long way in solving two problems.  Thank goodness for the world&#039;s ECO KIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a good  undeserved spanking from the media&#8217;s for being a pest, just remember they&#8217;re still our little ECO KIDS and it&#8217;s going to be their world.  It&#8217;s our mess that they have been left to clean up and the world&#8217;s ECO KIDS are trying to do it the best way they know how as kids, probably not too differently then what you would have done at their age if you had been giving a similar challenge; so give the  ECO KIDS a pat on the back  instead of the smack, it just may go a long way in solving two problems.  Thank goodness for the world&#8217;s ECO KIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/schools-unleash-eco-kids-to-badger-their-parents/comment-page-2/#comment-174004</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: All
RE: Barry 0351

Since Barry 0351 has failed to defend his contentions.....

....I honestly believe he/she/it is a liar of the first waters.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out.....]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: All<br />
RE: Barry 0351</p>
<p>Since Barry 0351 has failed to defend his contentions&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8230;.I honestly believe he/she/it is a liar of the first waters.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
[The Truth will out.....]</p>
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		<title>By: * * * -</title>
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		<dc:creator>* * * -</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOP for oppressive socialist regimes.  It seldom works.  The Nazi&#039;s and Soviets didn&#039;t have much luck.  I doubt that the Obamatrons will do any better.  For every kid that rats out their parents you have a million or so that don&#039;t.  Besides, I would guess that the creator of that program doesn&#039;t have children.  If they did, they would understand that it is the parents that nag the children, not the other way around.
If a parent&#039;s mind is so weak as to allow their child to nag them,, then they are most likely already hard core swampies.
&quot;Dad, you didn&#039;t seperrate the cans from the plastic&quot;
&quot;Jr., have you looked under your bed lately?  Clean up your room doesn&#039;t mean push everything under the bed.&quot;
No, a parent has too many advantages in the contest of wills to lose to their child.  You just have to out think them.  When it gets to the point where they are out thinking you, that is natures way of telling you that you need to take them down to the recruiting station and introduce them to the nice Marine that works there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOP for oppressive socialist regimes.  It seldom works.  The Nazi&#8217;s and Soviets didn&#8217;t have much luck.  I doubt that the Obamatrons will do any better.  For every kid that rats out their parents you have a million or so that don&#8217;t.  Besides, I would guess that the creator of that program doesn&#8217;t have children.  If they did, they would understand that it is the parents that nag the children, not the other way around.<br />
If a parent&#8217;s mind is so weak as to allow their child to nag them,, then they are most likely already hard core swampies.<br />
&#8220;Dad, you didn&#8217;t seperrate the cans from the plastic&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Jr., have you looked under your bed lately?  Clean up your room doesn&#8217;t mean push everything under the bed.&#8221;<br />
No, a parent has too many advantages in the contest of wills to lose to their child.  You just have to out think them.  When it gets to the point where they are out thinking you, that is natures way of telling you that you need to take them down to the recruiting station and introduce them to the nice Marine that works there.</p>
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		<title>By: SGT Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGT Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can tell that modern enviros are informed by Marxism is to simply look at who they demonize, which is capitalism, industrial societies and &quot;the rich&quot;, who they praise and laud, which are third world countries and cultures in which they personally would never live and finally, their solutions, which are always some sort of redistribution of resources by the State. Many leading &quot;environmentalists&quot; have admitted as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can tell that modern enviros are informed by Marxism is to simply look at who they demonize, which is capitalism, industrial societies and &#8220;the rich&#8221;, who they praise and laud, which are third world countries and cultures in which they personally would never live and finally, their solutions, which are always some sort of redistribution of resources by the State. Many leading &#8220;environmentalists&#8221; have admitted as much.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/schools-unleash-eco-kids-to-badger-their-parents/comment-page-2/#comment-172734</link>
		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ken stop stereotyping conservatives; they have to drink the same water,breathe the same air,and live in the same planet you do.However, we believe that global warming is being used as an excuse to impose impoverishing collectivism on most of the american people,while the liberal elites continue to spend  millions  private jets,and ostentatious luxury.Everything, everything, liberals have espoused has turned out to be an unmitigated disaster ; busing,affirmative racism, the great society, castro&#039;s cuba, stalin&#039;s russia, Mao&#039;s china,whole language,feminism,and recently freddy mac and fannie mae;Icould   go on;with a record like this, why should we buy your environmentalist bull? The real haters of the natural world are liberals,who hate reality, especially natural human nature,and who believe that totalitarianism can transform it in line with their pathetic fantasies. Keep on hating the natural world ken;reality will keep biting your posterior!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ken stop stereotyping conservatives; they have to drink the same water,breathe the same air,and live in the same planet you do.However, we believe that global warming is being used as an excuse to impose impoverishing collectivism on most of the american people,while the liberal elites continue to spend  millions  private jets,and ostentatious luxury.Everything, everything, liberals have espoused has turned out to be an unmitigated disaster ; busing,affirmative racism, the great society, castro&#8217;s cuba, stalin&#8217;s russia, Mao&#8217;s china,whole language,feminism,and recently freddy mac and fannie mae;Icould   go on;with a record like this, why should we buy your environmentalist bull? The real haters of the natural world are liberals,who hate reality, especially natural human nature,and who believe that totalitarianism can transform it in line with their pathetic fantasies. Keep on hating the natural world ken;reality will keep biting your posterior!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: Barry 0351
RE: Sooooo....

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;He is 6 years old for the love of horses what does he know about desert dwelling savages and their 8,000 year old monogod religion.Everything the teachers can teach him.&lt;/i&gt; -- Barry 0351&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And where does this child, your son, go to &#039;school&#039;?

Sure doesn&#039;t sound like the vaunted American public education system.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. That IS if you really do have a son. Based on your report, I suspect you&#039;re a liar about SOMETHING here.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: Barry 0351<br />
RE: Sooooo&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>He is 6 years old for the love of horses what does he know about desert dwelling savages and their 8,000 year old monogod religion.Everything the teachers can teach him.</i> &#8212; Barry 0351</p></blockquote>
<p>And where does this child, your son, go to &#8217;school&#8217;?</p>
<p>Sure doesn&#8217;t sound like the vaunted American public education system.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
P.S. That IS if you really do have a son. Based on your report, I suspect you&#8217;re a liar about SOMETHING here&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Barry 0351</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry 0351</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to tell my grandson about Norse mythology, you know a harmless tale of where lightning comes from in the viking world, Thor with his mighty hammer.
What I got back was an argument over &quot;THE ONE TRUE GOD&quot; that stopped all of the stories of any myth or fairy tale.
He is 6 years old for the love of horses what does he know about desert dwelling savages and their 8,000 year old monogod religion.
Everything the teachers can teach him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to tell my grandson about Norse mythology, you know a harmless tale of where lightning comes from in the viking world, Thor with his mighty hammer.<br />
What I got back was an argument over &#8220;THE ONE TRUE GOD&#8221; that stopped all of the stories of any myth or fairy tale.<br />
He is 6 years old for the love of horses what does he know about desert dwelling savages and their 8,000 year old monogod religion.<br />
Everything the teachers can teach him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken S</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/schools-unleash-eco-kids-to-badger-their-parents/comment-page-2/#comment-172588</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can agree that trying to turn school kids into secret police against their parents is presumptuous, and that *good* science tends to breed level heads and open minds instead of smug zealotry.  But what the hell??  

Most of the responses I see posted on here rail on against environmentalism as though caring about healthy ecology and taking care of the only planet we have to live on were a bad thing!  Is it some conservative &quot;party line&quot; to *hate* the natural world, or is it just some hysterical reaction against anything that &#039;ebil liberals&#039; espouse?  If tomorrow Al Gore declared that the sun was round and hot, would you people be shrilling &quot;nuh uh!  it&#039;s a cube of solid ice!&quot;  Is there some reason that you folk can&#039;t endorse your fiscal conservatism and your small government and your conservative &#039;morality&#039; and also give a crap about clean air and drinkable water and not turning the whole globe into a toxic landfill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can agree that trying to turn school kids into secret police against their parents is presumptuous, and that *good* science tends to breed level heads and open minds instead of smug zealotry.  But what the hell??  </p>
<p>Most of the responses I see posted on here rail on against environmentalism as though caring about healthy ecology and taking care of the only planet we have to live on were a bad thing!  Is it some conservative &#8220;party line&#8221; to *hate* the natural world, or is it just some hysterical reaction against anything that &#8216;ebil liberals&#8217; espouse?  If tomorrow Al Gore declared that the sun was round and hot, would you people be shrilling &#8220;nuh uh!  it&#8217;s a cube of solid ice!&#8221;  Is there some reason that you folk can&#8217;t endorse your fiscal conservatism and your small government and your conservative &#8216;morality&#8217; and also give a crap about clean air and drinkable water and not turning the whole globe into a toxic landfill?</p>
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		<title>By: Sara123</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great time for American parents to teach their kids family loyality to the bonds of love above all else.  American kids need to learn about the danger of following orders from self appointed mob leaders who are filled with hate and fear.  

Talk to them about how the teacher makes them feel - afraid?, hopeless?, angry?  Tell them that is not who &quot;we&quot; are (it is against our values to bully others) and that we also know that everything will be okay and the parent should say that they have looked into it and there is nothing to be afraid about.  Tell them that in the 1970&#039;s teachers filled with hate and fear did the same thing to young people saying that we were all going to die of global cooling if we did not stop driving our cars and heating our homes.  

It&#039;s a good chance to teach them about techniques of people lying to get a fearful and angry emotional response from them.  Vocabulary &quot;word of the day&quot; - manipulation for power over others.  They want to get the people so afraid and angry that they will obey their orders to hurt other people.  Talk about the same technique being used to stir up mobs of racists to hurt people of other races.  Or mobs who are jealous hating and hurting people who have worked very hard to be successful at work.  Tell them they are never to obey people who try to make them angry and order them to be bossy and mean to or hurt other people - especially their family.  Tell them all their family life is private and they are not to tell these nosey and mean teachers about their private life.  Keep calm so you don&#039;t scare your kids.

Finally, parents need to understand that these leftists at the schools will do all they can to hurt your child if they find out the kid does not agree with them.  Talking to them about manipulating your kids will put a price on your kid&#039;s head.  They hate and do not respect you as a parent.  I saw a unified far left social studies teaching staff try to fail my son after he wrote a politically incorrect essay on the US dropping the A-bombs on Japan that angered a far left teacher in the ninth grade.  I had a full time job just getting him through high school and he is very smart and he&#039;s a good kid and a great athelete.  Had I known then what I know now, I would have pulled him out of the high school once he had been tagged by the nutters at his school.  I did not realize the harassment was bulling and orchestrated until looking back at it and talking to my sister who is a teacher and has seen them in action. 

If this brown/black shirt movement is extreme at your public school, the best thing to do is pull your kid out of the school and put them elsewhere until this fad is squelched by the public.  With Obama as their fearless leader and them feeling power, it is going to be bad for a while. Don&#039;t let your kids be bullied and harmed and turn them against education or you.  This is not education. These are pumped up stupid and mean socialist/communist activists (or useful idiots) pretending to be teachers. They put adoration on kids who respond in the extreme to them and they put rejection and hate on kids who blow them off. 

Sorry to go on so long.  But this is serious and we experienced it in a school system outside of Boston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great time for American parents to teach their kids family loyality to the bonds of love above all else.  American kids need to learn about the danger of following orders from self appointed mob leaders who are filled with hate and fear.  </p>
<p>Talk to them about how the teacher makes them feel &#8211; afraid?, hopeless?, angry?  Tell them that is not who &#8220;we&#8221; are (it is against our values to bully others) and that we also know that everything will be okay and the parent should say that they have looked into it and there is nothing to be afraid about.  Tell them that in the 1970&#8217;s teachers filled with hate and fear did the same thing to young people saying that we were all going to die of global cooling if we did not stop driving our cars and heating our homes.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good chance to teach them about techniques of people lying to get a fearful and angry emotional response from them.  Vocabulary &#8220;word of the day&#8221; &#8211; manipulation for power over others.  They want to get the people so afraid and angry that they will obey their orders to hurt other people.  Talk about the same technique being used to stir up mobs of racists to hurt people of other races.  Or mobs who are jealous hating and hurting people who have worked very hard to be successful at work.  Tell them they are never to obey people who try to make them angry and order them to be bossy and mean to or hurt other people &#8211; especially their family.  Tell them all their family life is private and they are not to tell these nosey and mean teachers about their private life.  Keep calm so you don&#8217;t scare your kids.</p>
<p>Finally, parents need to understand that these leftists at the schools will do all they can to hurt your child if they find out the kid does not agree with them.  Talking to them about manipulating your kids will put a price on your kid&#8217;s head.  They hate and do not respect you as a parent.  I saw a unified far left social studies teaching staff try to fail my son after he wrote a politically incorrect essay on the US dropping the A-bombs on Japan that angered a far left teacher in the ninth grade.  I had a full time job just getting him through high school and he is very smart and he&#8217;s a good kid and a great athelete.  Had I known then what I know now, I would have pulled him out of the high school once he had been tagged by the nutters at his school.  I did not realize the harassment was bulling and orchestrated until looking back at it and talking to my sister who is a teacher and has seen them in action. </p>
<p>If this brown/black shirt movement is extreme at your public school, the best thing to do is pull your kid out of the school and put them elsewhere until this fad is squelched by the public.  With Obama as their fearless leader and them feeling power, it is going to be bad for a while. Don&#8217;t let your kids be bullied and harmed and turn them against education or you.  This is not education. These are pumped up stupid and mean socialist/communist activists (or useful idiots) pretending to be teachers. They put adoration on kids who respond in the extreme to them and they put rejection and hate on kids who blow them off. </p>
<p>Sorry to go on so long.  But this is serious and we experienced it in a school system outside of Boston.</p>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Does Fidel Castro sound familiar? He has used this &quot;education&quot; tactic on Cuban schools for decades, and now he has a couple generations of indoctrinated subjects whom adore him. And Prince Obama (soon to be crowned) is jealous.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Does Fidel Castro sound familiar? He has used this &#8220;education&#8221; tactic on Cuban schools for decades, and now he has a couple generations of indoctrinated subjects whom adore him. And Prince Obama (soon to be crowned) is jealous.</b></p>
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