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1. Vitaboy:

For anyone who doubts whether Obama’s “lipstick” comments were innocent or not, I would highly suggest him or her to look at the following videos of him giving speeches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw

Two different speeches, two different places. The SAME gesture at the SAME point in his speech, eliciting the SAME raucous reaction from two different audiences. If Obama is capable beyond reasonable doubt of flipping the bird to Hillary Clinton – a Democrat, no less – in public, then I think it’s pretty clear what he meant by “lipstick on a pig.”

The guy is juvenile, easily rattled, and thin-skinned – definitely not presidential material. He is a sexist, all right, and the worst kind – the passive-aggressive type that always seems to get away with his antics because he hides behind veiled references.

Sep 10, 2008 - 1:45 am 2. Ed Wallis:

It’s time for Republicans to wipe the floor with Obama.

NO EXCUSES. NO APOLOGIES.

Politics is “hardball.” The sentence is redundant.

Democrats destroyed George Allen for “macaca.”

Obama has crossed the line from “whining” and “insulting” to offense (…and, no, not in the “a good defense” sense).

“Panic?” The reason “why” he/they act this way should be irrelevant to any decent person.

IT IS TIME TO HOLD OBAMA ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS W-O-R-D-S.

Sep 10, 2008 - 1:52 am 3. crossover:

The guy is juvenile, easily rattled, and thin-skinned – ]]
No he is not-
He is Black and Proud.
fist in the air!

heh

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:02 am 4. Turfmann:

Is this what we can expect from an Obama administration when dealing with rogue nations during a national crisis?

Obama, et al have absolutely no idea what to do when confronted with a soccer mom.

What will he do when the Iranians test fire a nuclear weapon, call them lipstick wearing pigs?

What will he do when the Russians invade another former satellite state, ask them to stand from their wheelchairs?

Pathetic.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:23 am 5. god:

Give me a break!

Do you have to be conscious about which finger you’re going to use to scratch yourself?

I have a broken middle finger that looks like “the bird” when I close my other fingers because I cannot bend it. When I’m driving and clutch the steering wheel, people think I’m giving them the finger. Nothing I can do about it.

And now we cannot use an old expression because your dirty mind associates it with what a celebrity said.

McCain and Obama said they were going to run a respectable campaign. I recall that the red camp started to attack and then someone said that if the blue camp didn’t respond, they were wimps. In this testosterone charged country, what happens if you don’t respond? What happened to Ghandi?

The pundits and analysts are spreading the word that elections are not won by what you stand for on the issues, but personalities. Hollywood has done a real good job . . . Remember American Idol? Who won? The good singers or the cute ones?

I wish this country would wake up!

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:46 am 6. susan:

it’s basic knowledge that you cannot “correct” an extra cromosome (down syndrome) and stem cell research is pointless in this regard.

Is this what we get from ivy league education? What is the cause of the down syndrome is widely known, except maybe among the big brains with precious pieces of papers issued by universities.

Regardless of the insult it’s appalling and shameful that this level of ignorance is allowed.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:57 am 7. SAF:

The brilliance of the Palin choice can now be seen in the unmasking of the true democrats. This article by the noted liberal Camille Paglia http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/09/10/palin/index.html
sums up the democrat’s problems.

I never liked G. W. Bush but I voted for him twice because the democratic alternative was worse in my opinion. When I was growing up the first election where I was aware of the issues was between Kennedy and Nixon. I watched the debates and could hardly tell the difference between them. As it turned out Kennedy was quite the republican and delivered a massive tax cut which started the ball rolling on the economy.

Today there is a huge difference between the candidates in terms of where they want to take the country. Putting aside the fact that Obama is at best under-qualified the direction the democrats have taken make voting for them impossible for me. The republicans have ruled poorly but I fear the democrats would be worse. Just a day or two ago Obama said he wouldn’t roll back the tax cuts if the economy is still in the tank. Perhaps he is pragmatic or perhaps he wants a bump in the polls, I can’t tell. McCain was for the surge when it could not have done him any good politically. So it seems to me he wanted the US to win in Iraq.

So it seems to me that McCain wants to do what he thinks is the right thing whether you agree with him or not. Obama? Seems he just wants to get elected.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:14 am 8. Believer:

Vitaboy and I had the same reaction to BO’s disgusting comment.

I just came here after posting similar thoughts – and recollections – on another thread. So glad he’s linked the videos of the two speeches.

November 4 can’t come soon enough. I hope we send him the clearest of messages. He’s unfit to lead our nation.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:33 am 9. Ed Wallis:

SAF, While I found youre linked article interesting (she also has a nice writing style), I object to some of her initial statements:

“We need a new generation of leadership with fresh ideas and an expansive, cosmopolitan vision — which is why I support Barack Obama and have contributed to his campaign. My baby-boom generation — typified by the narcissistic Clintons — peaked in the 1960s and is seriously past it. But McCain, born before Pearl Harbor, is even older than we are! Why would anyone believe that he holds the key to the future?”

PLEASE. This is the jaded, most-often-voiced-by-the-mindless “We need progress! Progress is new! So throw out the old!” canard.

To expound on YOUR last paragraph, I am convinced McCain will “serve America and Americans” with respect for our Constitution. Zerobama “wants to get elected”, as you write, for THE POWER AND CONTROL of the position. I have NO confidence that Obama has the slightest desire “to serve America and Americans” – except as a “main course meal” for our enemies. (reference: Twilight Zone, “To Serve Man”)

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:34 am 10. David P:

I never gave up, my party has come through for me and so have my fellow Americans, thank you.

-David P.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:57 am 11. SAF:

Ed Wallis:

Thanks for the feedback. I agree with you about her article, what I found fascinating about it was she really sees the problems within her own party and is honest enough to admit them. Don’t see that too often. I thought it was worth reading.

And I am old enough to remember that episode. And you are dead right about that. What scares me the most is who is really behind Obama? A guy who doesn’t have the balls to vote for or against trivial issues (100+ present votes) doesn’t have the balls to get where he’s got. So how did he get here and who pulls the strings?

Very troubling.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:57 am 12. Sissy Willis:

Brilliant analysis, sparkling prose style, and your brevity is truly the soul of wit!

As I blogged just over a week ago:

“We’re savoring the joy of bloggers, politicians and media types who think McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as running mate is the best thing since sliced sourdough bread, not to mention the bewilderment of their counterparts on the other side of the aisle, who, like the proverbial deer — moose? — in the headlights, obviously didn’t see it coming down the road to the White House.”

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:04 am 13. AdrianS:

Obama is suffering from a complete mental black-out.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:04 am 14. Ed Wallis:

SAF: According to Freddoso (“The Case Against Barack Obama”), it seems it was Zerobama himself responsible for MOVING UP THE RANKS OF THE DALEY CHICAGO MACHINE with help from the usual inside cronies. Nothing spectacular, just CHICAGO politics as usual. Likely the same for the progression from-Chicago to DC.

So much for “change.”

As far as Senator-to-Presidential-Candidate goes…follow the money.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:11 am 15. susim:

I’d rather have lipstick on a pig, especialy if the pig is in favor of AMERICA, rather than the pig in a poke, America hating, Marxist, racist, enemy of life moozlim, phoney, flim-flam artist BHO.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:13 am 16. Ex-fetus:

I’m not worried about where he puts his lipstick, so long as he puts it there is private and doesn’t frighten the horses.
It’s that he can’t tell the difference between a pit bull and a pig that worries me. Do you really want a guy like that with the button?

They still there? 33 days and counting.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:16 am 17. cwm:

Give the guy a break, any college freshman knows how Muslins feel about pork.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:16 am 18. Ed Wallis:

To add to my 1:52am post…

It’s true, Republicans should not focus solely on this offensive remark, lest they appear petty (…or, that they’ve allowed themselves to be “distracted”…ha!).

That said, politics – being that irrational thing it is sometimes – DOES also function on the “if it sticks, use it” principle.

With George Allen, I thought it was mainly the “macaca” thing that did him in…THEN, someone mentioned Allen’s citing “racy” excerpts from Webb’s (his then-opponent) book.

A sign of desperation. IT MAY HAVE BEEN JUST THIS SIGN OF DESPERATION that signaled the Dems to “go for the jugular”…as Republicans should do NOW.

Certainly NOT at the expense of “diverting attention” from Ayers/Woods Fund/Annenberg, Wright/Pfleger, Rezko or other such issues.

But if it “sticks”….

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:21 am 19. Zhombre:

As Spengler noted in the Asia Times, American voters are shrewd, like animals, and will sniff out weakness. They prefer to vote for a Presidential candidate with actual cojones and not one who when flustered flops around verbally and spews puerile insults.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:30 am 20. SF:

err..ahhh..now wait a minute….now hold on. What the American people are saying is “Obama..you just blew the election, your toast.”

This comment was no accident. But just for argument sake let’s say he didn’t mean it to be a slam at Palin. What we really need to consider is if this is who we want to be POTUS.

Obama can hardly speak without having to go back and re-do the comment. What I really meant to say, or this is what I should have said. Are you kidding me?

Do you think this guy can re-do a statement to Putin. Obama is totally in over his head. He hasn’t a clue about what he is doing.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:45 am 21. Boris:

Palin said “thanks, but no thanks” to the truth and it looks like the McCain campaign is sliding down into the sewer with her. Well done.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:53 am 22. Lynn:

If that remark is the best Obama has, then he is definitely sunk. He seems to be unnerved and his campaign is becoming unglued. His advisors need to hold a marathon meeting.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:54 am 23. SAF:

SF:

While I am no Obama fan I have to disagree with you about him not having a clue. What ever outside help he may have had he still took a paper thin resume and became the democratic presidential candidate, no mean feat.

The problem is the strategy he used would not be effective outside the cocoon of MSM bias. It is no accident that the Europeans prefer Obama to McCain because they know he will put his image ahead of America. The last person Putin wants in the White House is McCain.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:00 am 24. hp:

“Is this what we can expect from an Obama administration when dealing with rogue nations during a national crisis?”

that and more. the man behind the glass curtain done fall down go boom in full view of the public eye. ’bout d***ed time.

watch. there’ll be more as he continues to unravel due to the stress.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:03 am 25. Ed Wallis:

SF: You’re right.

Zerobama’s favorite phrase these days seems to be, “As I’ve consistently said…”. What a fraud. Trying to re-write history…of 5 minutes ago.

GOOD LUCK with THAT approach with Russia, Iran…. /sarc

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:03 am 26. RustyG:

Weak redirect Boris, very weak. You can put lipstick on a Boris comment, but ….oh never mind.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:07 am 27. Did Barry Obama Call Sarah Palin A Pig? « The Reluctant Optimist:

[...] again, Sarah is obviously in Barry’s head, so maybe he did mean it that way. And his campaign is in a panic now. So it’s possible he meant [...]

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:10 am 28. FreedomLover:

Like it or not, Sarah Palin made the word “lipstick” her own last week. Obama should have known that using that word in any context would raise Palin’s image in the minds of his listeners.

So – he’s either intentionally offensive or unbelievably stupid. Either way, not presidential!

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:11 am 29. RE:

This meltdown shows that Team Obama cannot navigate rough waters.

Obama would get slapped around silly on the world stage – even worse than Carter did.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:16 am 30. Mike G:

“And now we cannot use an old expression because”

Gee, I can think of lots of old expressions you wouldn’t dare use in a race against Obama. They’d end your career on the spot. I mean, let’s call a spade a spade, and not have the pot calling the kettle black…

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:16 am 31. Drider:

Boris, might I recommend a different name while posting in favor of Obama, or has the bloom come completely off the rose.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:20 am 32. Obamamia perde la testa e attacca la Palin: un maiale con il rossetto at mariosechi.net:

[...] Volontaria o meno, la metafora usata da Barack Obama nei confronti dei repubblicani è una gaffe enorme che porterà altri voti a John McCain. Definire i concorrenti per la corsa alla Casa Bianca “maiali con il rossetto” non è un fulgido esempio di politica e bon ton. I democratici sono nervosi, perdono voti e arrancano nei sondaggi. Se continuano così, sono destinati a perdere. Da leggere Jennifer Rubin su Pajamas Media. [...]

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:25 am 33. Kelly:

I would rather have lipstick on a pig then to have lipstick on a snake. Obama must be shuttering at the thought of pork, all muslims do.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:29 am 34. ZEITGEIST:

[...] UPDATE: “Palin panic.” [...]

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:33 am 35. William of Orange:

With the ever-increasing breakdowns, gaffes, stumbles and malapropisms, I think the CHANGE Obama’s talking about is probably a change of underwear.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:39 am 36. joe:

When you watch the video, Obama says, “You know, you can put lipstick on a pig….” then pauses for quite some time, for everyone to “get it”, and realize and understand WHO he’s referring to. Then, he continues with “…but it’s still a pig.” The last part didn’t matter. He made his point with his delivery of the first part – on purpose.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:40 am 37. Fred from Canuckistan . . .:

Katie thinks it is sexism ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZd_Y_D-RaA

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:40 am 38. Broadsword:

From a long ago Reader’s Digest funny story… A man in an airport line, just hearing about more delays &/or cancellations, rushes to the front, screaming at the woman behind the counter, “I’ve got to get on that plane. Don’t you know who I am?” The woman calmly picked up a mike and announced, “Attention in the airport. We have a man at the (whatever-airline) counter who doesn’t know who he is. If anyone can help, please come to…” The man slunk away. Obama, slunking, priceless. Heh.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:42 am 39. ag:

As a woman, I was not offended by this remark.

Last night, when I heard the clip, I did not know that this is a common saying in the South.

I did read that McCain used this saying himself in reference to Clinton’s Heath Care plan.

I wasn’t paying attention at the time but whether or not McCain would have chosen to use this saying if he was referring to a health care plan purposed by a man instead of a woman, Senator Clinton, is debatable.

Here is the clip on Youtube titled
“John McCain likes “Lipstick on a Pig” references too” in case someone would like to see it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:47 am 40. Don Meaker:

Sad thing that the democrats had no serious candidates. All were running for vice president, and Obama, the most vice presidential of all, was unlucky enough to get into a presidential race with a real statesman.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:49 am 41. MW:

Vitaboy, I am no fan of Obama either, but I’m afraid you are mistaken about your youtube clips. They are the same speech shot from different angles. If you examine them side by side it becomes more clear that they are the same.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:51 am 42. Ed Wallis:

Also of related merit:

http://townhall.com/blog/g/8306bc92-692f-49e6-9a84-feee6f6a552e

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:52 am 43. Larry J:

susan:

it’s basic knowledge that you cannot “correct” an extra cromosome (down syndrome) and stem cell research is pointless in this regard.

Is this what we get from ivy league education? What is the cause of the down syndrome is widely known, except maybe among the big brains with precious pieces of papers issued by universities.

Regardless of the insult it’s appalling and shameful that this level of ignorance is allowed.

Yes, Susan, you’re right. Down’s Syndrome is caused by an extra chromosone (number 21), a trisomy condition. There is no way stem cell treatment could cure Down’s. Biden has a very high opinion of his own intelligence. When it comes to science, he really isn’t all that smart.

It’s quite likely that Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comment will be seen as the point where he jumped the shark, like Dukakis (sp) in the tank and Kerry in the bunny suit. Obama has always been an empty suit. If I were interested in an empty suit, I’d go to a clothing store. I certainly wouldn’t elect it president.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:54 am 44. RE:

The panic is getting to be fun.

I’m eagerly awaiting today’s Democrat self inflicted wounds.

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:56 am 45. misanthropicus:

Have you seen the little piggies,
Malia, Michelle and Sasha trotting to the trough
No lipstick, but aragula their much loved swill
Piano lessons, prime-time close-ups
Auntie Oprah keeps the ratings for the fair ONE

[developing comment]

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:59 am 46. Mike from OH:

I suggest one read these two articles by Spangler in the Asia Times:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/front_page/jb26aa01.html;

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JI03Aa02.html

I believe the author is dead on in his assessment of Mr. Obama. As one who survived 40 years with the same firm I very much appreciate Spangler’s observation of Mr. Obama’s complete lack of friends.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:09 am 47. Boris:

“Have you seen the little piggies,
Malia, Michelle and Sasha trotting to the trough
No lipstick, but aragula their much loved swill
Piano lessons, prime-time close-ups
Auntie Oprah keeps the ratings for the fair ONE”

Ah, another jammie outs itself as a scumbag.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:14 am 48. Papertiger:

As I recall it was a slip of the lip by a Secretary of State, that caused the Korean war. Another ill chosen phrase, this time by a President, led to the assassination of the President of Vietnam, and the escalation of that conflict.

It’s good to know these things about a candidate before they are elected.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:14 am 49. Drider:

AG, I believe it is fine that you are not offended by Obama’s most recent comment, everyone is free to hear it and make the conclusion as to exactly who or what Obama was talking about but I must point out that it seem’s that the majority of Americans are offended to varying degrees.

To try and bridge McCains comment, using the identical phrase in describing Hillary’s health care policy to what seemed like a well timed, calculated, degrading stand up joke, does not hold water.

I myself would usually lean towards giving Obama the benefit of the doubt on this but I cannot.
We have seen him, with the wave of a hand, dismiss female reporters trying to do their jobs, calling them…..”sweetie”….We have seen him on National television “flip off” Hillary Clinton using the same stand up routine as he did with the “pig with lipstick” attack.

He no longer has the benefit of the doubt being he has shown us repeatedly that there is “no doubt” on his “natural” stance on women’s contribution to our society and those running in higher office.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:20 am 50. Maecenas:

I hope McCain backs off this because he is portraying Palin as a victim and makes Obama seem strong enough to get under their skin. If Palin is a barracuda or a pit bull, then she should treat Obama’s statement as nothing to get worked up over. If anyone is offended, let them be offended. But it’s annoying to whip up offense, which may innoculate Obama from attempts to use real below the belt attacks. So don’t whine and don’t demand apologies over this issue.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:20 am 51. Herb:

Ahhh, look at all the righties with their feelings hurted. Such a sensitive, disingenuous group you all are.

I find it curious that many of you are more offended by an inartful remark than you are by getting lied to by your candidates on a daily basis.

Not only was Palin for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it, she’s lying about it now! But by all means…go sulk about “lipstick on a pig.”

Just say nothing about all the pork!

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:25 am 52. redherkey:

The Obama/Biden campaign is one being carefully guided by George Lakoff’s (of the Rockridge Institute) concept of message framing:

http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/projects/strategic/simple_framing/

Daily message and meme constructs are carefully reviewed, selecting specifically chosen short phrases that are to be repeated by the candidate, spokespersons and by the mainstream media surrogates via materials distributed for their handling. As Lakoff has driven home with consulting to the Obama campaign, *EVERY WORD EVOKES A FRAME*. Words are hypertext links to emotions, images, memories, experiences, imagery, etc.

At this level, you don’t make mistakes of the “lipstick on a pig” and “smelly fish” that are accidental misstatements. All but the minor league hacks in the mainstream media understand the game and know this wasn’t accidental, especially with Biden’s selective reference in the same day.

The purpose of the pig and smelly fish Palin smear? It was a not-so-subtle message both to the McCain/Palin campaign and to the Obama unhinged radical base that they’re going to fight dirty, gloves off, and the “pretty little lady’s gonna get messed up bad.”

As this would be a strategic miscalculation of serious magnitudes, I’m eager to see them pursue it. My Democratic voting mother-in-law (wife to a life-long Teamster) and my moderate mother were shocked at this incident, amazed at “what Obama did to that poor woman.” I agree with one assessment: in any professional workplace, Barry would be starting mandatory sexual harassment training today following a suspension from his duties for that kind of conduct toward a female coworker in his office. Worse yet, as she’s a subordinate to his level, he’d probably have received a written reprimand with notice to terminate following any further conduct of this nature.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:27 am 53. jay:

As much fun as it is beating Obama with the pig stick I didn’t think he was referring to Governor Palin. I do think he was stupid (again) using that saying; he should of known it would be used against him. Honestly, who’s giving him advice? They should have known any derogatory comment with lipstick involved would come back on him. On another note I heard it is now racist to use the term “community organizer”. So all I have to say is “community organizer”, “community organizer”, “community organizer” you know what they say, “ you can put lipstick on a “community organizer” but you still end up with a Nobama.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:28 am 54. Skip LIttle:

Why shouldnt Dems be paniced. This lady is an anti Dem. I dont know if it is true about her trying to ban books or not, Palin has had other scandals and a possible affair So I just dont get how anyone could switch from Hillary to Palin.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:29 am 55. rocketeer:

FreedomLover: You’re hitting it right on the mark. Obama is not an idiot, he HAD to have known that any use of the word lipstick would be associated with Palin and yet he did it anyway.

So we’re left with the following, either Obama is an idiot and just doesn’t have the basic understanding of this (which would disqualify him from being president for being really stupid), or he intentionally made the correlation (which should also disqualify him from being president for just being petty and sexist).

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:33 am 56. chicago:

the messiah is getting unglued! I’ve just received lots of email from friends here in Chicago, not a small thing since these friends are democrats, who stated that they’re fed up with Obama and they will vote for McCain.

after this latest gaffe from the empty suit, you can add lipstick to that empty suit and it will still keep sliding down in the polls!

Obama’s done, Bill Clinton will bring a fork with him to lunch and stick it into Obama.

The O’s inexperience is showing more and more. I wonder how many advisers he consulted in order to come up with the lipstick on the pig smear.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:38 am 57. Herb:

Also, the Dems aren’t panicking. That seems to be the default reaction in these threads to anything that happens in this campaign. “This’ll be the thing that finally gets the Dems to panic.” The Palin pick rejuvenates a McCain campaign that was treading water. The Dems are panicking! McCain gets his first lead in national polls. Yep, panic! Obama say lipstick on a pig. Oooh, they’re really panicking now!

The panic on the Dem side is just not there. So can we stop with this “Dems are panicking” nonsense?

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:40 am 58. rkb:

Oh for goodness sake, Skip. If you don’t know those intentional rumors have been disproved publicly multiple times, then you’re too stupid or lazy to be taken seriously.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:44 am 59. mthrndr:

to “God”: You and a bunch of others keep saying you wish the country would “wake up”. The problem is, you have it exactly wrong. Waking up is EXACTLY what the country is doing right now. What you want is for the country to Go Back To Sleep, so that your imbecilic presidential nominee can sneak into the white house.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:45 am 60. Webutante:

Isn’t it time that McCain and Palin let go of their offense and start making bacon out of this? I see some really tasty opportunities here, don’t you?

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:47 am 61. susan:

“Why shouldnt Dems be paniced. ”

uh, maybe because they lack any idea of proper spelling?

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:48 am 62. jay:

Herb:
Dems are panicking, Dems are panicking, Dems are panicking. You can put lipstick on that but the Dems are still panicking.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:49 am 63. Boris:

“Have you seen the little piggies,
Malia, Michelle and Sasha trotting to the trough”

Conservative values. You are a nice person.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:49 am 64. TexEd:

Maybe this will help folks, not the hard core lunatics, of course, realize that Hussein is an empty suit, a low energy guy and not very bright at that, who was selected by anti-Americans and crooked politicians in Chicago to be US Senator and then US President.
My newspaper this morning and an article headed with a line that Obama felt McCain was focusing too much on “change.” Can you believe that.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:49 am 65. Fallon:

Rocketeer and Freedomlover- I agree.

Obama had to know that inferring that Palin is a pig and McCain is an old fish will offend many, but he thinks he can regain some of pride after being laughed at for being a “community organizer.”

All he has is his “cool” factor. If he continues to throw that away by looking desperate and mean, he’s got nothin’.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:51 am 66. Robert Hurley:

I guess when you have nothing of substance, you have to invent things. It is clear from the context that Obama was referring to the concept of change put forward by McCain. We don’t know what Palin thinks because they won’t let her answer any questions

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:52 am 67. Robert Hurley:

I guess when you have nothing of substance, you have to invent things. It is clear from the context that Obama was referring to the concept of change put forward by McCain. We don’t know what Palin thinks because they won’t let her answer any questions. None of you seem to let truth get in the way of your opinions.

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:57 am 68. Ed Wallis:

“Skip Little”, The “ban books” smear to which you refer is just that – a lie:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/06/the-bogus-sarah-palin-banned-books-list/

Your feigned “not understanding how anyone…bla bla bla” doesn’t fool anyone.

*spraying* Troll-Be-Gone *on the thread here…*

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:57 am 69. Good point « Internet Scofflaw:

[...] Jennifer Rubin writes: Obama and his supporters never tire of telling us that we should assess his ability to [...]

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:57 am 70. Karl Rove:

I wonder if we’ll see someone dressed up as a pig at the remainder of Obama’s appearances?

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:59 am 71. susan:

Boris, please enlight us on the memorable actions of Obama’s uncle during the liberation of Auschwitz with the american troops…

OH, it wasn’t american troops… it was russian troops. And it was uncle obama from mother’s part (even if his mother didn’t have any brother) or father’s part (in that case nobody told me about an african army liberating Auschwitz… damn)

Sep 10, 2008 - 6:59 am 72. Jim,MtnViewCA,USA:

“Bros not hoes”.
Obamas supporters are some of his worst problems…

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:09 am 73. Dodgeblogium » Severe Palin Panic Strikes Democrats: The Gaffes Continue:

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Sep 10, 2008 - 7:18 am 74. Herb:

Jay, I’m guessing you’re a Palin supporter. Both of you seem to think that repeating something makes it true…

Ed Wallis, did you just link to Michelle Malkin? You know she’s in favor of internment camps, right?

Susan, You really do need to be enlightened. Obama’s great uncle (grandmother’s brother) helped liberate Buchenwald with the 89th Infantry Division. There…now you can go form an opinion.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:18 am 75. Rachel Peepers:

Anybody remember what Jay Leno asked Hugh Grant on July 4, 2006?

No?

When Hugh walked out on the Tonight Show stage that evening and sat down, Jay opened with, “Tell me,Hugh, what were you thinking?”

This, of course, was in reference to Hugh’s hooker experience/arrest some days before.

So can somebody please explain to me what Obama was thinking when he said to a small crowd of people today, Hey, you can put lipstick on a pig, but she’s still a pig.”

Well, I submit to you that a sexist remark that foul demotes Obama to the status of swine. A pig in men’s clothing.

What this oinker of a joke, of course, was;
a reference to Sarah Palin’s convention comment about telling the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull. It was a bald faced slap shot in Sarah’s face, really in the face of all women.

(My Dad says that the fact Biden also recently referenced lipstick in a noxious way removes any innocent remark argument.)

Was it worse than when Obama gave Hillary the finger that time where everybody in the audience in the same say laughed with glee?

Now, Barack’s see-how many-times-we-can-shoot outselves-in-the-foot-in-a-48-hour-news-cycle gang, is sending 30 lawyers to Alaska to see what kind of dirt they can dig up to feed to the mainstream Barack bootlickin’media’s smear machine.

I swear, these guys are so dirty they make the Chicago sewer system look like a hospital operating room.

What’s more, if I hear Obama tomorrow tell the TV audience, “Look, I’ll be the first to admit”, yesterday I misspoke, I swear I’ll explode.

Or not. Actually, my sense is that something good is happening across America. I think that Sarah Palin is tapping into something that political correctness can brutalize but can’t seem to kill; something that’s part of the very fabric of our nation.

For me, she embodies the pioneer spirit. The sense of fairness and decency, belief in family, trust in God that once formed the bedrock of our beliefs; the foundation of our constitution.

If an overlay of guilt and self doubt, along with a side order of self loating is now being spread across this nation where a warm quilt of pride once covered it, that’s wrong.

Maybe there’s something we’ve kind of forgotten along the way. Something that Sarah reminded me of. When her country called, she didn’t hesitate. Like enraged citizens on Monday, December 8th, 1941, she, too, answered the call. For me, she’s something uniquely American.

She’s Crockett at the Alamo. Barefoot troops at Valley Forge. Charging Teddy. Alvin York, the pacifist in France. A.C. McAuliffe at Bastogne. McCain in the Hanoi Hilton. For little old Rachel, Sarah Palin is right up there with the rest of them; right up there with the best of them.

This woman, mother of five, does more than make me proud to be a woman.

She makes me prouder than ever to be an American.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:19 am 76. Bruce:

“Their biggest problem is that they have never led, never managed, never navigated during a crisis, and as a result never demonstrated calm under fire. ”

You are touting the leadership under crisis of Republicans? Let’s look at the record over the last eight years: 9/11, Katrina, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the economy, 1 million democracy loving Iraqi dead, etc.

We can’t afford four more years of that kind of leadership.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:21 am 77. jay:

Jim,MtnViewCA,USA:
“Bros not hoes”.
Obamas supporters are some of his worst problems…

Is that for real? I haven’t heard of anyone using that saying.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:22 am 78. Political Party Poop:

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Sep 10, 2008 - 7:22 am 79. Boris:

“Boris, please enlight us on the memorable actions of Obama’s uncle during the liberation of Auschwitz with the american troops…”

Read much? Obama’s great uncle helped liberate Ohrdruf, a subcamp of Buchenwald. Mistaking Auschwitz for Buchenwald is careless perhaps, but it isn’t lying like Palin and her “thanks but no thanks” line.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:22 am 80. Dan S:

“AdrianS:

Obama is suffering from a complete mental black-out.

Sep 10, 2008 – 4:04 am”

RACIST!

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:24 am 81. Ed Wallis:

“Herb 7:18,”

One would have thought that a literate-seeming person as yourself would have avoided such a lie about Ms. Malkin…please go read her book…without drooling too much as you mouthe over each syllable.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:29 am 82. Vitaboy:

@MW

The are NOT the same speech from two different angles. Here’s another clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlR9DNfqGD4

At 0:34, the audience rises to its feet – you can clearly see who is sitting behind Obama at this point.

Now take a look at this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM

The people behind Obama are completely different in the two clips! Notice in the second clip, there are the two white women who lean towards each other and whispering – they are completely absent in the first clip. The audience sitting behind Obama are DIFFERENT in each clip!

AME gesture at the SAME point in his speech, eliciting the SAME raucous reaction from two different audiences.

You tell me again if he “just” needed to “scratch” his face now.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:30 am 83. jay:

Herb:
I repeated it “community organizer” because we were asked not to use the term because it was “racist.” also I repeated, “The Dems are panicking” because I was told, by you, not to use it. Not because I thought it was true even though I do think it is true. I also said “As much fun as it is beating Obama with the pig stick I didn’t think he was referring to Governor Palin” since I repeated that does that make me an Obama supporter?

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:35 am 84. Herb:

Rachel, “Actually, my sense is that something good is happening across America.” I disagree. I see John McCain running around talking about how he’s going to change a broken Washington establishment, an establishment he’s been a part of for 26 years.

I see Sarah Palin running around telling people she’s a courageous pork-busting reformer, when it looks like she’s just another Alaska Republican bringing home the bacon.

I see their supporters ignoring or dismissing important issues like the war and the economy in favor of culture war nonsense about the liberal media and the outrage of the day. (As Pee Wee Herman would say, Today’s word is lipstick. AHHHHHH!)

None of these things I would classify as “good.” Maybe I’m just liberal scum. Or maybe I’m just tired of being played for a fool.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:37 am 85. Anonymous:

I think the lipstick comment was appropriate. It’s o.k. to compare herself to a pit bull and so does Mc Cain so they open the door for any other comments.

The one on stem cell is appropriate because it is a policy she has a stand on and anyone running for V.P. has to take it. They want to put a bubble around her and keep her for any negtive comments….get real Mc Cain…..this is an election. You certainly don’t hesitate telling lies about Obama raising taxes….you are the one who’s going to tax our medical coverage and privitize s..s

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:41 am 86. Joe:

McCain used the SAME line on Hillary.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:41 am 87. be reasonable:

John McCain used the same expression when referencing HRC’s health plan. A man I know used the same expression when the White House took on Tony Snow as Press Secretary. I is a proverb meaning that the foundation of something does not change when a new accessory that is purely decorative and consistent with the form is added.

If McCain thinks that Obama should apologize for this then he also should be preparing an apology to HRC to be released concurrently. And while he’s at it, he could release apologies for the joke he told about Chelsea Clinton, calling his fellow senators by vulgar expletives while on the job, to muslims for singing “bomb Iran” while dancing and laughing, with a microphone in his hand for starters.

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” A biblical proverb.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:42 am 88. Herb:

Ed Wallis, Why would I want to read a book called “In Defense of Internment?” To be fair and balanced? Sorry, bud. With a title (and premise) like that, I just don’t think I have “fair and balanced” in me.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:43 am 89. ozziepat:

Great post, Rachel.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:45 am 90. pat napolitano:

Hey Mc Cain….you are the one who refers to Palin as a pit bull so it’s open field about the lipstick comment which by the way was NOT
referring to Palin but to your policies.
About Biden’s comment …this is a legitimate comment as she has a stand on stem cell research and she IS running for V.P.so she can be challenged on her policies…you want to put a bubble around your pet bull dog. It’s o.k. for you and she to tell lies about Obama’s policies but not o.k. for Biden to bring up something that is true.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:45 am 91. Rachel Peepers:

You can put Barack Obama in a two thousand dollar suit of clothes and he’s still a pig.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:46 am 92. Javelin:

Ed Wallis,
Malkin is a right wing hack who churns out partisan screed for semi literate fools like you. You know, the ones who bitch endlessly about the MSM then take her partisan trash serioulsy. Go to the library and quit reading books aimed at right wing retards.
PS: No one of anyt intelligence or integrity takes her trash seriously.
Like I said in my last port, the usual partisan retards here are doing their level best to twist some insult out of thin air cause their minds are too weak to think past fourth grade. Can’t you see just how shallow and weak this is? It adds nothing, all you are doing is dragging everything down. This is just political correctness and stupidity at it’s worse !

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:56 am 93. susan:

herb

“Mistaking Auschwitz for Buchenwald is careless perhaps”

no, it’s plain stupid. He’s doing what he does best: bragging. But he’s bragging about something he didn’t personally do. Is his mental capacity so limited not to learn Auschwitz or a little bit of history and geography (57 states comes to mind)?

was it you who said he writes his “speeches” himself or it was written by one of his 300 political advisors?

Herb, I have a job for you. There is a cruise liner that needs someone to rearrange the deck chairs. It’s called the Titanic.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:57 am 94. Rachel Peepers:

Now I know why Barack Obama is such a fan of gun control.

It might prevent the brown eyed handsome man from shooting himself in the foot.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:59 am 95. SEW:

Everyone knows how Muslims feel about women and pigs, so what’s the big deal?

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:59 am 96. S. Weasel:

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Sep 10, 2008 - 8:00 am 97. Rachel Peepers:

ozziepat,

thank you, sir.

Regards,
Rachel

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:04 am 98. Boris:

“He’s doing what he does best: bragging. But he’s bragging about something he didn’t personally do.”

No. He was using his great uncle as an example of what happens to veterans when they come back from a war.

And you have no problem with Sarah Palin bragging about being against the bridge to nowhere, when she was for it? Now I see the “change” plan–McCain/Palin are quite good at changing the past.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:09 am 99. misanthropicus:

RE: Boris: “… lying like Palin…”

Boris, Boris you’re so right – Obama never lies, not even when he suddenly remembers (like last week), that when he registered for Selective Service, he actually wanted to join the Army, but since there was no war around, he regretfully put this on the back burner. Incidentally, he never mentioned this deep yearning in his two memoirs.
Selective service, selective memory for Glibama; for you, Boris, systematic hypocrisy.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:10 am 100. M. Simon:

Well Boris we will know in another three days or so if putting lipstick on that pig helped Obama in the polls.

I’m betting it helped him a lot. Minimum two points further behind that would put him at -7.

It doesn’t matter what he was trying to do. Only what he accomplished.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:10 am 101. Javelin:

susan,
Would Bush know the difference between the two camps?
SEW,
WTG, you are so juvenile, Hussein is the closet Muslim, great stuff!

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:12 am 102. Herb:

susan, let me clarify…

I do not see how Obama’s grandmother’s brother liberating Buchenwald helps him in anyway. You’re right. He wasn’t there and the “liberator by association” line isn’t convincing.

However, I also do not see how the mere mention of it makes him untrustworthy and unfit for office.

That you seem intent on making this gaffe into an issue tells me that your true interests lie in attacking Obama rather than discussing the issues that REALLY matter.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:13 am 103. Herb:

Rachel Peepers, do you have anything intelligent to say? Most stand-up comedians try out their new material in front of an actual audience. You should try it.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:15 am 104. Rachel Peepers:

This morning I was slumming and I
ran across this bit of humor on a liberal blog.

Question:

When Todd Palin phones Sarah for a lunch date, what does he say?

Todd:

WOOOOO PIG SOWIEEEEEEE ! …

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:16 am 105. Sandra M:

The press whines that we don’t know what Sarah really believes in.
The fact that she came to fame early in June with the Larry Kudlow interviews on drilling for oil in Alaska and energy in general, the PRIME issue in this campaign is irrelevant, they say. So….

They all trudged to Alaska looking for scandal. She was a member of the American Independence Party. Errrr, no, she wasn’t, she supported Steve Forbes, which means what? Duh! Sarah believes in THE FLAT TAX, since that is the primary issue Steve Forbes ran on. And that is a further reason I support her as I supported Steve.

Sarah reminds me of classic American films, sometimes starring John Wayne, in which Americans overcame incredible odds to do spectacular things which helped build America. Men in the oil business or bringing beef to market in an incredible journey to “feed a hungry nation.” Sarah has spoken of bringing oil to the oil hungry lower 48.

Working men in the rust belt have been lied to by politicians for years, but when Sarah speaks of achieving energy independence as a serious and primary goal, that entails all kinds of industrial jobs. I just read that Ford manufactures a car in England that gets 65 mpg but that they can’t manufacture it here. Whatever regulations responsible, that’s what Ford should be campaigning for — not a taxpayer bailout.

Traditionalists see Sarah as one of their own. But Sarah is no John Ford apron-clad woman waving to men as they set off on adventures. I’m a Howard Hawks woman and I see Sarah as a sexy, independent, man’s woman out there with the men keeping up with them and sometimes besting them to their vast and appreciative delight. And I hear this all set to the film score for RED RIVER.

Sarah is a woman to be emulated, with a marriage to be emulated, and a career to be emulated. in this world of satellite television, who knows how many women in how many countries will be inspired by her. The Brits want a Sarah of their own. Their opeds say so. How many girls want to be Sarah when they grow up. The ripple effects of Sarah’s ascendancy are astonishing.

Obama is an arrogant little man who made a Freudian slip and liked the applause so he said it again. The result?

As the Russian submariner said to his captain in THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER:

“You arrogant ass. You’ve killed us!”

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:17 am 106. BMoon:

RE: Bruce
I mostly agree with you.
“9/11,”-Yes!. Clinton’s unforgivable acquiesence to Islamic terrorism must never, ever be repeated. (But he was in for eight years, not four.)
” Katrina,” Again agree. The Dem Governor was voted out. However Fagin unbelievably, unfathomably continues.
“Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac,” Agree. Clinton era constructs and run by his corrupt cronies and protected by Dem Congress.
“the economy,” See above plus criminal Dem-led congressional lethargy on energy. (Has it been only 4 years since Pelosi-Reid took over? Seems like 100.)
“1 million democracy loving Iraqi dead, etc.” Disagree some here. Ummm, were you referring to the Iran-Iraq war?

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:18 am 107. Boris:

“Minimum two points further behind that would put him at -7.”

McCain might be able to spin this to their advantage. Lord knows they don’t want to talk about issues, am I right?

You might want to broaden your perspective. There are more polls that put the race dead even than anything else. We shall see if McCain keeps his bounce.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:20 am 108. Rachel Peepers:

I know how one goes about getting a job on the Leno or Letterman show and becoming a joke writer.

But how do you get a job on the Barack campaign to become one of his gaffe writers?

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:24 am 109. susan:

“And you have no problem with Sarah Palin bragging about being against the bridge to nowhere, when she was for it?”

mhmmhmhmh, I don’t know boris, what it is sure is that both your bidet and obambi voted for the bridge to nowhere while in the senate.

Think about it. Palin is NOT responsible for taxpayer money going to waste. Obambuzer IS!

“Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation’s budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.

When the Senate had its chance to stop the Bridge to Nowhere and transfer the money to Katrina rebuilding, Messrs. Obama and Biden voted for the $223 million earmark, siding with the old boys’ club in the Senate. And to date, they still have not publicly renounced their support for the infamous earmark.

Mrs. Palin has proven courageous by taking on big spenders in her own party. In March of this year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that, “Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin’s antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state.”

Mr. Obama had a chance to take on his party when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid offered a sham ethics bill, which was widely criticized by watchdog groups such as Citizens Against Government Waste for shielding earmarks from pubic scrutiny. But instead of standing with taxpayers, Mr. Obama voted for the bill. Today, he claims he helped write the bill that failed to clean up Washington.”

google it yourself. Shouldn’t be hard.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:25 am 110. Jim Treacher:

Yeah, over the next four years, the President of the United States is going to face much tougher challenges than watching a cute lady with glasses make fun of him on TV. He really needs to pull himself together. Or not.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:26 am 111. susan:

javelin, is bush running?

maybe you didn’t pay attention and have a very selective memory like your darling glibama

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:26 am 112. ST333:

A.) I’m voting for McCain.
B.) ‘Lipstick on a Pig’ is a common phrase and one that John McCain used in describing Hillary’s Heathcare Plan, was he calling her a pig?

There’s plenty to go after Obama for politically and philosophically, but let’s not fall for these ‘Jerry Springer’ type politics. Obama was talking about McCain and his policies, not Gov. Palin.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:26 am 113. Rachel Peepers:

What will they etch into Barack Obama’s political tombstone?

He was the tallest tree in a forest of gaffes.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:34 am 114. Air2air:

Rachel:

“If an overlay of guilt and self doubt, along with a side order of self loathing is now being spread across this nation where a warm quilt of pride once covered it, that’s wrong.”

Wonderfully put and an outstanding post.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:34 am 115. KansasGirl:

This election cycle just keeps giving.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:35 am 116. jay:

“the usual partisan retards”
Wow Javelin, nice.

Not all us “partisan retards” believe it was an insult meant for Palin but we still think he’s an idiot and don’t lecture us on “political correctness” you libs are the worst. Now it’s “racist” for us to use the term “community organizer” in reference to Obama?

We’re pretty tame here compared to the absolute CRAP written at CNN and MSNBC. Talk about insults these guys are the leaders. Everyone here should read some of the stuff they write on their comments boards. It’s some pretty disgusting stuff. So Javelin and Boris and all you others why don’t you go post over there. One of the tricks CNN does is the allow a whole bunch of obama supporters to post, one after another in minutes then they close the board to further comments. I must say I find the hypocrisy of the left hilarious.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:36 am 117. gridlock (FR):

Vitaboy, I made the same mistake earlier today. Those two videos are of the same speech.

He’s still a punk. He’s just not a repeat offender punk.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:43 am 118. fdf:

“Obama would get slapped around silly on the world stage – even worse than Carter did.”

Not sure that’s possible. Jimmy is the gold standard for bad foreign policy. Later presidents can only aspire to do such a bad job.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:43 am 119. Terri:

I am undecided. I agree and disagree with McCain and Obama on different issues. I am trying to get the facts from both sides. What I don’t understand is why Sarah Palin has not spoken to the media. I heard that she has not even spoken to the voters. I heard her speech at the convention and I have heard others talk about her but I want to hear from her. What do you think about this? I don’t know what to make of it. My daughter asked me “If she is ready to be the Vice President why is she being quiet?”

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:44 am 120. Andrew Ian Dodge:

It was just a daft thing to say. Its a gift to McCain and pretty much a sign that Obama’s rattled. Whether he “meant it” or not is irrelevant really.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:48 am 121. bajema:

Obama is a girly-man. If he can get riled this bad by the media calling him on his comment, he can’t stand up to ImAdinnerJacket or Putin.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:49 am 122. Ed Wallis:

“jay”, That comment of “Jav” was in response to me…maybe he has a crush on me or something… :O

“Terri”, Gov. Palin HAS been out in the country just about every or every-other day since the convention. In fact, this morning, I understand she and McCain were out speaking in Fairfax, VA. So, I hope that addresses your concern…or are you an O’bot merely trying to pan off this canard on the unwitting (not many here)?

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:53 am 123. Boris:

“I don’t know boris, what it is sure is that both your bidet and obambi voted for the bridge to nowhere while in the senate.

Think about it. Palin is NOT responsible for taxpayer money going to waste. Obambuzer IS!”

How uniformed can you be? The bridge to nowhere was Ted Stevens’ baby, you know, Ted Stevens, Republican senator currently on trial for corruption?

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:54 am 124. Self-hating boomer:

I don’t think this comment indicates that he’s rattled, but the O’Reiley interview sure does. This just indicates what we’ve known for the better part of a year: that he’s a loose cannon, who will say unpredictable and indiscreet things without his teleprompter.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:55 am 125. Bonnie_:

I don’t know what happened to the Republicans. They were always reliably dorky, clueless, and kindly. When the Democrats would attack, the Republicans would kick a rock with their collective shoe and say “Ah, shucks, that ain’t right!” Eventually the memes from the Democrats and the MSM (but I repeat myself) would become ingrained in the public mind “Bush lied,” “No weapons of mass destruction,” et. cetera.

Now, something is happening around here. The Republicans have responded instantly and with great energy to every Democrat attack and talking point. Instead of sighing and kicking rocks, the Republicans are the ones who are defining the images and the terms that become ingrained in the public mind.

Make no mistake, Sarah Palin doesn’t give a mooseburger for what Obama said and neither does McCain. But by branding Obama with a sexist, “women are pigs” meme, they’re consolidating their grip on votes across the country.

I don’t know what happened to the Republicans. But I sure like it.

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:55 am 126. CALindie:

I havn’t read the entire thread posted here so forgive me if this is repeated elswhere. Obama’s campaign said the comment was taken out of context, as usual. Here’s the context I read it in.

You know, you can put lipstick on a pig,” Obama said, “but it’s still a pig.”

This was followed with:

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called ‘change,’” Obama continued, “it’s still gonna stink after eight years.

Now, how many times have the Democrats tried to paint John McCain as an “old” fish? This follow up statement is all the context I need to know exactly what Obama was trying to pull. “Lipstick on a pig” – Sarah Palin. “Old fish” – John McCain. Why isn’t anyone putting his comment in context, it would bury him even deeper in pig doo.

Barack looks so pathetic when trying to be Stephen Colbert on the stump. I remember a few weeks ago when Obama was attacking John McCain for not knowing how many houses his wife owns, in front of the same type of crowd he looked like a seventh grader (nothing against seventh graders) running for class president. It was painful to watch and it certainly wasn’t humorous.

Obama’s extemporaneous speechs are as pathetic to watch as his telepromter speeches are elegant. Buh, ahhh, uhhh… mumble, stumble, jumble, buh, uhhhh, gaffe… ahhh, uhhh, which has been my point consistently (emphasis at the end)! Ouch! We all see it!

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:58 am 127. susan:

“That you seem intent on making this gaffe into an issue tells me that your true interests lie in attacking Obama rather than discussing the issues that REALLY matter.”

LOL, the issues that really matters is that he is friend with terrorists and he wants to look like a socialist european country, then it’s a plus that he changes his opinion according to what is convenient for him at the moment (see the moral equivalence between georgia and russia, palestine and israel).

If you want to live in a socialist country, why don’t you move in one? There’s plenty of it in Europe, there’s gotta be a “diversity” in this multicultural world isn’t it? so you get commie countries of all shapes and forms (Cuba, China, North Korea), you have religious states (pakistan, iran, saudi arabia), you have dictatorships (random african countries), you have socialist countries (basically the whole europe).

The idea of USA APEING the old continent from which it detached itself from is plain stupid.

Is this the “issue” you want to talk about?

Why don’t you see the same level of immigration to the usa (I am not talking about low-cost immigration like the mexicans but doctors, engineers etc that comes from Europe) in ANY OTHER SOCIALIST COUNTRY?

Europe is SWAMPED by low-level immigration, that means africans and asians that are barely literate, not to mention muslims (and this itself is the MAJOR problem and will always be a problem in the near future), you NEVER see american people or australians resettling in EU, it’s the other way around.

That and the total failure of communism should tell you something about the “issues” promoted by Obamba.

I am in Europe and I talk a lot with people that left the communist countries back then and are still leaving them. The left parties of the world went crazy after the Berlin wall came down, because all their phony ideologies have been crushed, it was under everybody’s eyes what a failure is the marxist ideology, it’s a moral and material bankrupcy.

It’s absolutely true that we have to wait 6 months to have a hospital examination paid by the socialized medicine. IT’S TRUE, and if you have money and go “private” then it’s a plus, but we PAY with TAXES our national healthcare with the results that I have mentioned.

But if the majority of american people want socialized medicine (did you do a referendum or a reliable poll?) then be it, but it won’t be an INEPT like obamba doing it.

Cmon, someone who voted “present” 130 times (why? CHANGE doesn’t START in the senate? maybe he needed more spotlight to be motivated), someone who was chair of a committee and didn’t hold a single committee meeting (again, he needed those adoring groupies to be motivated?).

Just from the paragraph above a “normal” (i mean not an obama groupie) would get that he is either

1) totally uncapable and inept

or

2) in desperate need of attention, power-hungry, inflated egoed, buying his own hype, airheaded

both points are quite scary in their own right

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:00 am 128. Lynn:

The widespread and seemingly coordinated attacks on Sarah Palin by the MSM and the Obama campaign are a sight to behold.

Everything Obama is off limits, but everything Palin is OK to target, even if untrue. What absolute hypocrisy.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:01 am 129. jay:

Boris:
“How uniformed can you be? The bridge to nowhere was Ted Stevens’ baby, you know, Ted Stevens, Republican senator currently on trial for corruption?”

Oh forget it Boris. You are the uninformed one here and no I will not say why. You figure it out.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:03 am 130. Ex-fetus:

Boris, I found the perfect response to your posts;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Y4keqTV6w

Don’t quit your day job just yet.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:05 am 131. susan:

“How uniformed can you be? The bridge to nowhere was Ted Stevens’ baby, you know, Ted Stevens, Republican senator currently on trial for corruption?”

LOL, and MOREOVER 2 idiots from the opposite party couldn’t vote AGAINST IT and bragging about how much money they saved?

What kind of logic is that?

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:06 am 132. jay:

Terri:
Governor Palin is to be interviewed by Charles Gibson on ADC at the end of the week (thurs., fri.) Of course the republicans are going to build it up as a big thing to get the people watching that’s just good politics. She hasn’t been quiet, she’s been on the stump all week.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:12 am 133. former tusconan:

It was a silly comment, uttered at the absolute worst possible point.

Looks like Obama’s much remarked upon oratorical skills only manifest themselves when the conditions are stacked in his favor.

But then, Obama has always reminded me of the ultimate teacher’s pet. Always on time, with his work done, all neat and tidy. Or better yet, one of the many individuals I’ve seen make corporate VP by the time they’re 35. Most of them are better at getting the job than they are at keeping it.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:15 am 134. Shepard Barbash:

But Rasmussen daily poll has Obama stabilizing in the last two days, which suggests his recent actions aren’t necessarily hurting him with the undecideds.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:26 am 135. Sara:

Obama is in the midst of a train wreck. He is thin skinned and so are his advisors. He attacked Palin for her inexperience – stupid because she has more than he. He flipped out in rage, with the help of his pals in the media, when she compared her experience as Mayor and Governor to his experience as a community organizer (socialist organization building) role.

Instead of moving on his message, he digs deep inside beneath the messiah facade and come out with comparing Palin to a pig with lipstick and McCain as an old fish wrapped in newspaper.

Palin said Hillary supporters put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling. True, but she put a big crack in the Messiah’s facade and out spewed his blind hatred of women and his unhinged radicalism.

He stooped to the crass radical nutroots level rather than acting Presidential because that is who he really is under the Messiah facade. This follows Boxer’s comment to a citizen who asked her if she would allow drilling, “how about we drill your brain.” That is moonbat all the way. It is just blind hatred.

When the democrats get cornered or defeated in public; they are lashing out in a way that pleases the most radical elements of the political spectrum but disgusts normal people who are looking for real reform and professional politiians.

Obama is now stuck with himself being exposed. The Messiah image is gone.
Now he is just a radical from Chicago who sat in a Black racist church for twenty years hatin’ whitey and America and organizing a socialist revolution as best he could. That is who he is inside and now on the outside, too.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:36 am 136. Freedom is just another word...:

“LOOK AT THE LITTLE MONKEY RUN” Howard Cossel 1983 Monday Night Football.

A complete blooper as Howard Cossel did not mean anything racist. But, that was not how it sounded to American’s ears.

It’s not what Obama meant, but that is how it sounded to American’s ears.

Obama needs to make an apology.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:39 am 137. Joe Buzz:

Rock on Sara!

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:41 am 138. Brian:

Terri:
“What I don’t understand is why Sarah Palin has not spoken to the media.”

She’s going to be interviewed by Charlie Gibson of ABC, I don’t know when.

On the earlier posting by Boris: Sarah Palin killed the Bridge to Nowhere project, but after it became clear that it was a political liability. So she changed positions. It’s also true the Senate (with Joe Biden and Barack voting for it) gave the money to Alaska anyway. Any governor turning away that much federal money would have looked like a fool. So at most this looks like her role in this was conflated a bit (resume padding, anyone?).

However, the Alaska Democratic Party gave her the credit for cancelling the bridge (in an anti-Ted Stevens ad about all the pork projects he was steering to the state). I would defer to them since they ought to know better, and they have no reason to mention this detail unless they believe it.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:43 am 139. trangbang68:

Boris said Obama was bringing up his uncle’s service to show what happens to veterans when they return. No doubt.
Interestingly, Obama’s comrades, Ayers and Dohrn were among other places targeting Fort Dix for terrorist bombing. I believe that was the target of the bomb the Keystone Rat Traitors accidentally set off in the Greenwich Village townhouse, ridding the human gene pool of their repulsive selves.
Javelin has a typo in the sentence saying no intelligence person reads Michelle Malkin. Moron!

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:45 am 140. jay:

This follows Boxer’s comment to a citizen who asked her if she would allow drilling, “how about we drill your brain.”

Did she really say that? Hahahahaha, I can actually hear her saying something stupid like that.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:47 am 141. Rachel Peepers:

Speaking at a high school in Norfolk, Obama took a few moments this morning to address what he calls “the made-up controversy” of the day, Barack Obama’s assertion that Sarah Palin’s lipstick can’t cover up her swine family ancestry.

Obama pointed out, “If it walks like a pig and oinks like a pig and eats like a pig, then the obvious conclusion is unavoidable.

The Senator than complimented the New York Times and Washington Post for refusing to give any space to the McCain campaign attempt to “seize an innocent remark and take it out of context” because they knew it’s “catnip for the news media.”

“See, Obama went on, it would be funny as a story about a lady walking out of a bathroom with a piece of toilet paper hanging out the back of her dress, which was located in the back of the newspaper, but the news media decided that it would be the lead story yesterday. This happens every election cycle. Every four years, this is what we do.

I tell a joke and they slice and dice it and all of a sudden it’s sounding like I’m a flaming misogynist, which couldn’t be further from a bald faced lie.

Heaven, knows, initially I gave Sarah Palin the benefit of the doubt, yes, respected her,even having been told about her reputation for shall I say knowing her
tendency to flaunt her feminine wiles to best advantage. But once the former beauty queen wears those tight red dresses, and puts on all that makeup and provacative eye shadow and that subtle sensual lipstick, then, of course, any man is going to make a comment, maybe whistle as she passes by.

Let’s face it, women like Sarah Palin are in the end, high end provocateurs. As old as politics. Not that I’m singling her out. Fact is,I could put Rielle Hunter in that same category.

Obama went on to say, “Why none other than John Edwards phoned me today, telling me not to be affected by the smears being leveled at me on the front pages of the tabloid press.”

Summing up Obama states, “America is going to be voting on the real issues, the pocketbook issues, not trumped up jokes like, “Is there something in your pocket” or are you thinking about Sarah Palin?

At any rate, after giving a practical class in the politicas of personal destruction 101 formerly taught by
Bill Clinton,Barack Obama went on to implore all students having indescriminate sex to make sure their partners don’t forget to get out the vote.

This, as you know, Obama refrained, is the most important election of the 21st century. If hope and change are important to you, then underline November 4th as the date we all do our civic duty. Ladies, it’s especially important to you. So take out your lipsticks and underline that date in red.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:51 am 142. rvastar:

Let’s play “Name That Porker!”

The question is: which of the following politicians voted for the infamous “Bridge To Nowhere”?

Was it Sarah Palin? Was it John McCain? Was it Barry Obama? Was it Joe Biden?

Tune in next time for the answer – after Boris has a chance to spit, sputter, redirect, and obfuscate

Another point, Boris: Palin – did, in fact – initially support the “Bridge To Nowhere”…she then changed her mind and killed the project. Question: why is that when Palin rethinks an issue and actually takes action that leads to a better result for her constituents and the nation, it’s cynical posturing, hypocrisy, and lying. But when Barry rethinks an issue – like he did with FISA…or the Patriot Act…or Iraq (4+ flip-flops and he still has 2 months left)…or Iran…or abortion…or gun rights…or the status of Jerusalem…or campaign financing pledges…or legalizing marijuana…or just recently, tax increases – then it’s an example of “nuanced” thinking?

Oh, and one more: since you’re so up-in-arms about earmarks, care to comment on your efforts at getting Obambi to return the $100 million in earmarks he got for Illinois last year…or your outrage over the near $1 billion he’s requested since ‘05?

Can’t you see just how shallow and weak this is? It adds nothing, all you are doing is dragging everything down.

This coming from the brilliant mind who, in the same post, refers to “semi literate fools”, “right wing retards”, “partisan retards”, and “their minds are too weak to think past fourth grade”.

Yup, Jav, that’s generally about the depth of your commentary: filled to the brim with ad hominem, with not a fact in sight.

Oh, and by the way…how you coming along with refuting my arguments about the effects of leftist ideology on America’s black population? It’s been a few weeks, and you still haven’t gotten around to it. Take your time, buddy. I mean, you must have an answer…considering all the time you obviously spend in the “library”

None of you seem to let truth get in the way of your opinions.

Hey, what do you know?!? There you are, Robert!!!

You seemed to have beat a hasty retreat from our conversation yesterday. I assume you had your reasons. Lucky I found you here! Now you can answer the simple question that you were having so much trouble with yesterday: namely, why the American people should hand the most powerful office on Earth to a guy that has 1) NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER, 2) NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER, and 3) NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER?

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:52 am 143. Stephen:

Ed…couldn’t agree more with your initial 1:52am post. It’s time for the GOP to end this once and for all. Now that the RNC and McCain have a full monetary warchest, it’s time to really start telling the truth about Obama’s past, his lies (thinking about military service) his associations (Ayers, Wright, Fleger, Rezco, etc…), his shameful treatment of his half brother, position on abortion/taxes/energy/defense/etc…. TV ad after TV ad, stump speech after stump speech, need to be a constant drum beat of this stuff. Now that McCain/Palin has the attention of middle America, this thing could be over after the 1st debate.

Obama is simply not fit in any way shape or form to be POTUS much less a local County Commissioner. GOP, now is the time to take the gloves off and defeat this Marxist and the cultural left once and for all.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:58 am 144. Boris:

Rachael Peepers posted recently that she hates black people and that’s why she is voting against Obama.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:03 am 145. Marc:

Can anyone say, Howard Dean?

YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:05 am 146. Javelin:

New list of forbidden words you can’t use or some stupid ninny will scream that you are attacking Goddess Palin: bridge, nowhere, pit, bull, lipstick, pig, fish, Downs, teenage pregnancy, snowmobile and moose. Talk about PC!

I have no problem with Palin’s response to the Bridge to Nowhere project. Nor do I have a problem with her trying to get state and federal earmarks for her town or state, that would be her job The problem is McCain using her as an anti-earmark crusader. But now we can’t have any discussion of her cause she has been deified any any criticism of her means you are attacking God herself.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:06 am 147. Donald Mallin:

Has anyone considered that Obama is frustrated because he cannot discover a technicality with which to disqualify Sarah as he has done in every other campaign he has entered? He has never had to compete before, preferring rather to eliminate the opposition via disqualification.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:07 am 148. TroopLover:

‘Obama pointed out, “If it walks like a pig and oinks like a pig and eats like a pig, then the obvious conclusion is unavoidable.’

Hmmmm, look who’s calling the lipstick pink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcGFPR6H6aE

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:09 am 149. Javelin:

Hey jay,
I am not a leftist or Obama supporter. I just despise petty little trash like this. You are a small minded partisan retard, that is a fact. It has nothing to do with your politics or convictions, just your petty, bellicose personality that has to stick your nose in the dirt and look for something to make you feel insulted everyday.
PS: I say the same sort of stuff to leftists on their boards, I enjoy putting down stupid, petty people.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:11 am 150. jay:

Javelin:
you forgot black, muslim, hussein, community organizer, qualified (unless directed at female governors), Reveran Wright, Ayers association, broke teleprompter etc….

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:14 am 151. HRPKathy:

The bottom line, whether we agree that it was a slur against Palin, politically tin-eared, or deliberately misinterpreted, we can all find one nexus of agreement. It was politically stupid.

And that is important.

Why?

Because Obama himself explained that he does too have executive experience, he is after all running a campaign for President! (Shhh – don’t tell his campaign MANAGER) For months and months and months he has displayed his vast expertise at management. Sigh.

Any executive of any company large or small would not make this amateurish mistake. To quote Obama “words have meaning”.

So let’s judge him on his own two standards, words, and managing his campaign.

On both counts he proves that electing him to the Presidency would do devastating harm to America, both at home and abroad.

Perhaps that’s why Putin wants him to be elected so badly.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:15 am 152. Javelin:

“9/11,”-Yes!. Clinton’s unforgivable acquiesence to Islamic terrorism must never, ever be repeated. (But he was in for eight years, not four.)
” Katrina,” Again agree. The Dem Governor was voted out. However Fagin unbelievably, unfathomably continues.
“Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac,” Agree. Clinton era constructs and run by his corrupt cronies and protected by Dem Congress.
Bush is responsible for Fanny May, but I guess that would be Bush Derangement Syndrome to point that out. It’s always someone else’s fault.
While you are correct that Clinton did little to fight al Qaeda during his terms, Bush did the same up to 9/11. If Al Qaeda was so dangerous and Bush was such a defender, why did he take no notice till the plane’s struck.
Katrina, Nagin is a fool, but Bush screwed up too. But I am talking to a stone wall, a true Bushbotic talk show clone, so this is pointless.
Everything is Clinton’s fault, RIGHT!

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:18 am 153. Jeff:

Well I personally don’t think that is what he meant, it still goes to show you that he is a freshman politican and was stupid for using it. If I were Sara I would be going out and saying This little piggy is going to clean up washington, This little piggy is bringing change, this little piggy …….

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:22 am 154. jay:

Javelin:
Ouch, what a witty comeback. You are a “leftist democrate” and your not a nice person. Also you just lost all your arguments and have proven to the whole board what kind of person you really are. Stupid, petty thy name is Javelin.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:25 am 155. HRPKathy:

er, Javelin, Bush isn’t running.

And that dog don’t hunt – trying to say McCain is Bush only works on those suffering from BDS where the mere comparison is considered successfully thrown poo.

McCain/Palin have persuaded and continue to pursuade the voters that Reform is the healthiest prescription for what ails our government, as opposed to an overthrow of our capitalist system.

But please, continue attacking Bush. I’m from the South, we don’t hide our crazy people in the attic, we bring ‘em right down to the parlor where everybody can enjoy them.

Please, entertain us.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:27 am 156. rvastar:

But now we can’t have any discussion of her cause she has been deified any any criticism of her means you are attacking God herself.

Not at all, Jav! No one here thinks that Palin’s positions, past, etc. shouldn’t be examined and discussed, thoroughly and critically. The problem we see is that the MSM has yet to do the same with Obambi.

Here’s their notion of hard-hitting journalism regarding The One for the past year:

REPORTER: “Master, right-wing sleaze merchants have claimed that your judgement is suspect due to your associations with <>. Care to comment on these ridiculous charges by these racist Nazi warmongers?”

THE ONE: “I didn’t do it.”

REPORTER: “That’s good enough for me! Now, what do you think about the rumors that John McCain had an affair with a lobbyist? Man – my leg is shaking!”

I am not a leftist or Obama supporter. I just despise petty little trash like this.

Ha ha ha!!! Ha ha ha!!! Ha ha ha!!! Ha ha ha!!! Ha ha ha!!! Ha ha ha!!! Ha ha ha!!! Ha ha ha!!!

Good one, Jav

PS: I say the same sort of stuff to leftists on their boards, I enjoy putting down stupid, petty people.

And we would just love to see some links to those posts, Jav…posts that are dated earlier than the next 30 minutes

Right, Jay?

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:28 am 157. god:

mthrndr 9/10 6:45 am:

I guess you want four more years of “going back to sleep”. This country won’t wake up until people get educated. That’s why everyone gets excited about some little expression involving “pigs”. I bet your favorite magazines are People and TV Magazine. Did you watch your Jerry Springer today?

This country deserves what they wish for.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:28 am 158. Doug:

Check this out McCain was the metaphorical pig while palin is just the lipstick. This is even more offensive and bho is lying. http://www.democrats.org/page/community/post/elizabethberry/Cgsq

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:29 am 159. Les Hardie:

Here’s a point about Sarah Palin that’s been missed: she went to a state college, not an Ivy or prestige university. For every woman who graduated from Harvard or Stanford, a thousand graduated from state colleges. Those women can identify with Palin; Sarah graduated from an “OK” school, but became governor of her state. If she can do that on her own, w/o a rich daddy or husband to grease the skids, hey, that’s someone they can admire and identify with. Sarah doesn’t appeal to the elitist Hillary-lovers, but to a much larger group of women whose background is similar to Palin’s. There are many more of them than Hillarites.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:35 am 160. jay:

rvastar, yea this guy javelin takes the cake. He can’t win his arguments so he just resorts to name-calling. It does show his true self. People like javelin and Boris post to just argue but because their arguments are so weak they can’t take it and explode into raving masses of stupidity. Oh well.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:36 am 161. Promoguy:

TerriI am undecided. I agree and disagree with McCain and Obama on different issues. I am trying to get the facts from both sides. What I don’t understand is why Sarah Palin has not spoken to the media. I heard that she has not even spoken to the voters. I heard her speech at the convention and I have heard others talk about her but I want to hear from her. What do you think about this? I don’t know what to make of it. My daughter asked me “If she is ready to be the Vice President why is she being quiet?”

I won’t call you a liar, but I don’t believe a word you say above.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:37 am 162. BMoon:

..and if you put lipstick on a communist-raised, devotee of Marxist Alinsky corrupt Chicago politics, friend of unrepentant Maoist terrorist Ayer, most exterme Leftist congressman in history…does that make you a moderate?

…or just a liar in drag?

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:52 am 163. nick:

Biden did not imply Palin should support stem cell research (mccain does) because he knows the American Taliban (AT) does not.

Obama did a good job of 1 showing how their record is crap and 2 – and clever using her lipstick reference about pit bulls against her.

IT WAS GENIUS

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:53 am 164. Sandy Salt:

Promoguy,
Why does she need to talk to reporters? The MSM gave up any right to talk to her when they went all in on the slimefest, so I wouldn’t give them the time of day. As for not talking to people, she is out on the campaign trail talking to folks and tell them what she believes. Of course you aren’t hearing about it in the MSM because they are pouting about her not talking to them. I rather have a press blackout on her and have her out talking to actual voters vice pandering to a press core that has no problem spreading lies and wild@$$ accusations.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:56 am 165. nick:

The VOTERS of Virginia destroyed George Allen for “macaca.”

that was a racist word. If Palin was not good looking it woould have also been insult.

Quite the opposite.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:57 am 166. Sandy Salt:

I think the real issue is that regardless of what the comments was meant to convey, McCain/Palin should have ignored it and let the controversy play out without them. It would make Obama look pitiful and petty but, instead it makes them look whiny and thin-skinned. I would expect more from a pitbull and a maverick.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:00 am 167. Promoguy:

Sandy, Terri was trying to be cute like she was oh, oh so undecided.

I actually enjoy reading folks like her and her stupid comments and she expects people on here to fall for her, oh so open mindedness. Oh, and her daughter’s oh so open mindedness.

The other group idiot I love to read is the one who talks about how they are a big independent voter and talk about how they vote for the best person. To those I always like to ask so, who was the last republican you voted for. They and Terri are the same, trying to fool others on conservative blogs how ‘open minded’ and ‘thinking’ they are. So as I rethink my position on Terri, I will just say her comments are a lie.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:05 am 168. jay:

Sandy Salt: Actually I kinda agree with you and besides there is way better amunition to attack with than this. Obama’s record and his own words about himself are gifts that keeps giving.

And from Fox News…….
In its new report, the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste gave the Republican presidential nominee a 100 percent rating for his votes in the Senate last year, and a lifetime score of 88 percent.

By comparison, the nonpartisan, nonprofit group, which is the lobbying arm of Citizens Against Government Waste, assigned Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, 10 percent last year and a lifetime score of 18 percent. Biden, Obama’s running mate, scored 0 percent last year and an overall score of 22 percent.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:10 am 169. jay:

I should have said in my last post that they are talking about “resistance to earmarks”. They don’t rate Governors.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:14 am 170. jay:

“there is way better amunition”

ammunition – spell check is a wonderful thing.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:17 am 171. Mark Rinzel:

You are all pathetic sycophants, and I hope this Palin cookie crumbles before your eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

What say any of you to this?

Just what I thought….

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:26 am 172. Lee Raskin:

Lipstick on a Pig? Yes, Sen. McCain thinks he is the original Maverick..and in this case, he may well be!

Note: Sen. McCain referred to “Lipstick on a Pig” last May (2008) while campaigning and talking about Sen. Hilary Clinton’s prior unsuccessful healthcare reform attempt.

Was Sen. McCain then referring to Sen. Clinton as a Pig?

My answer to all of this bs:

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE…SAME OLD, VERY OLD McCAIN!

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:26 am 173. Jeb:

The outrage over this is probably the most ridiculous political exercise I have seen this cycle. The referent of pig and fish was obviously the policies of the Bush administration (McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time so they may rightly be called his policies as well). The referent of lipstick and paper were the McCain campaign’s recent adoption of Barack’s theme of change, a theme has been much maligned here as empty (now that McCain has co-opted it those criticisms have faded). The speech mentions McCain, not Palin, prior to these cliches. It should be obvious to anyone but the willfully ignorant that Obama was not calling Palin a pig or saying she smells like fish. It is perhaps a useful piece of political misdirection and manipulation, but it is far from an honest assessment. Get fired up about the actual policy differences rather than the manufactured outrages of the day.

Re: the bridge to nowhere
The funding that would have built the bridge still went to AK. What was removed was the earmark that would have prioritized the bridge as the recipient of that funding. When Palin was running for Governor she campaigned for the bridge. After she was elected and the bridge had become a national joke and the earmark was stripped she stopped supporting the bridge. Now she claims she said thanks but no thanks to the money she took and spent on other projects. That is a lie that she has repeated over twenty times. It has been repeatedly exposed as such and she continues to use it.

BTW Due to the constraints of the office when one or the other is actually in the WH and push comes to shove the differences in enacted policies will mostly be at the margins other than judiciary picks.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:32 am 174. Sandy Salt:

Sorry Promoguy. I am for cleaning up the government, but I think McCain should lay out a plan and appoint VP Palin as the chair of a commision to rid Washington of corruption. They need to remove the lobbyists and set term limits for everyone. I know some lobbyists do good work, but they should not be allowed to donate (bribe) Congress into doing their will. They should lay out a good argument and be on their way vice promoting greed and corruption with campaign donations. Turn back the clock on lobbyists and it would go a long way on cleaning Washington up. I really believe that you have to have a plan and a team ready to go from day one, so the American public can see that you are serious about cleaning up wasteful Washington. Otherwise you are just another hot air politician just saying what you think we want to hear to get elected.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:36 am 175. Boris:

“Citizens Against Government Waste”

lol

CAGW funneled funds for Jack Abramoff. Who will reform the reformers?

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:37 am 176. idov:

The classic joke is a double entendre. You are apparently saying one thing, but the audience is getting the loaded-on humorous message. Look at the audience, they got the joke. Of course since it’s double entendre, Obama can come back later and pretend he only meant the straight message. He must think the public is totally dumb.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:41 am 177. HRPKathy:

Someone who took down Frank Murkowski and his cronies in Alaska. Someone whose signature bill was campaign finance REFORM. Sarah Palin and John McCain.

Have you heard, yesterday your guy Biden told a man in a wheel chair to stand up? Yup.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:42 am 178. Sandra M:

Boxer’s an idiot but it was our dear leader, THIRD in line for the Presidency, Nancy Pelosi who made the comment: “How about we drill your brain?”

The Republican Party should campaign for its down ticket using this film clip and the fact that 9% approval Nancy is third in line for the Presidency, that she has been in CONTROL of the House for two years, years in which fuel and food prices have soared and the Dems have stalled as much as possible on real energy independence.

I should have added the following tag line to my previous post, but it works here…and with the Obama campaign and press these days.

“When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang” GK Chesterton.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:50 am 179. Marc:

No one is disputing who said what, it is the context that is up for debate. The message was not said for the hell of it. Barry said it because he can deny it, but it still gets played and voters make associations.

Barry Hussein Obama, was no mistake either.

Psy-ops is effective, but it may be too late in the game. Frankly, I think McCain was smart to hit it back into Barry’s court. Notice, Palin has not responded to it as of this writing. The fact that we are talking about it as if it were a gaffe, has weight enough to mire Barry in a defensive posture. He can do nothing, and he is seen to at the very least to have had a poor choice of words, or worse, made a deliberate attack. He can apologize, and concede to the GOP. Either way, the GOP base won’t like it, and it will further galvanize support for Palin. Tt wasn’t the smartest decision, and proof McCain will wipe him out in the debates.

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Sep 10, 2008 - 11:53 am 181. jay:

This is getting boring. I’m moving on. See ya’ll later. Remember to VOTE. Peace out

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:59 am 182. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: This Bit of Trash-Talk

I’m reminded of how the Roman Republic, great state that it was, become the Roman Empire.

Based on all I’ve read on this ‘progressive’ approach to politics, the Romans became too obsessed in ‘which party’, e.g., high school rah-rah, won instead of which candidate had the right mind-set to watch over the well-being of their republic.

One of the key indicators was the development of a technique in which one side called the other ‘name’, e.g., ‘pigs with lipstick’.

Think about it…..

…and think about how you want YOUR CHILDREN to live.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Children, n., Messages we send to a future we shall never see ourselves.]

Sep 10, 2008 - 12:06 pm 183. Chuck Pelto:

TO: All
RE: Jaded Palettes and All

This is getting boring. I’m moving on. See ya’ll later. Remember to VOTE. Peace out — jay

I place ‘jay’ at an educational level of mid-high school. And, of an age of 16.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[I want a new 'drug'.....]

Sep 10, 2008 - 12:07 pm 184. Chuck Pelto:

P.S. If ‘Jay’ is interested in something more ‘demanding’/'damaging’ for an experience, I would suggest that he….

[1] Go down to his local recruiting station
[2] Enlist in the Armed Forces of the United States
[3] Taking an option for one of the following: (1) Airborne-Ranger or (2) Recon Marine.

I think he’ll get PLENTY of endorphine rushes out of either of those life-challenging ‘choices’. I sure as h— did; Option #1.

Sep 10, 2008 - 12:10 pm 185. BMoon:

“Let Palin at him, she’ll gut him like a trout.”

Goodness. She already has. The ghastly flapping about by the Obama campaign is just the dying, nervous last gasps of this horrific dead fish.

I say let Todd have a few moments with Barry in a private room so they can work out this little “misunderstanding.”

Sep 10, 2008 - 12:19 pm 186. jay:

Chuck Pelto:
I was really leaving the area and was attempting to be cute about it by saying “peace out” and “don’t forget to VOTE” if you think I was insulting then my apologies. What I was referring to is the name-calling (such as the use of “retard”) was getting boring and childish. So if think that makes me childish then so be it. Also I’ve been in the Army, thank you, so now go insult someone who really deserved it. If you think the insults to everyone and me was ok then maybe you should use some of you scorn for yourself.

Sep 10, 2008 - 12:41 pm 187. jay:

“you scorn for yourself.”
your scorn for yourself. – darn proof reading

Sep 10, 2008 - 12:43 pm 188. Dark Helmet:

Going back to the beginning and the basics, cross over, obammy is not black.
He is no more white than he is black.

If someone can’t be honest about what ‘race’ they are, how can you trust them to be Commander in Chief?

This whole race is about race. obammy mammy would not be the canidate if he did not look black now would he?

America is not ready for a black president.

America is ready for a president that happens to be black.

America is ready for a real person, that is why Palin is kicking the crap out of everyone. It’s the core of who she is that comes through and resonates with America, not the glasses, the boobs or the down syndrome baby. None of that matters.

It’s about being REAL.

Sep 10, 2008 - 12:55 pm 189. TroopLover:

“Also I’ve been in the Army, thank you, so now go insult someone who really deserved it.”

I know a lot of people in the Army and you my dear, do not seem like the soldier-type. I noticed you said, “been in the Army” …not “served in the Army”…I’m smelling pig poo poo.

Sep 10, 2008 - 1:00 pm 190. jay:

Chuck Pelto, I’ve read some of your posts and found some to be humorous. Some have been a little childish but for you to say these things when you weren’t even in the conversation was a pretty petty thing to do. What is it? Why would you say that after some of the crap that was said on this site by the Obamabots? I thought you where ok now I see your just another a$$hole.

Sep 10, 2008 - 1:00 pm 191. Robert P:

Now we have the lipstick jabs. It’s obvious that Obama has jumped the snark.

Sep 10, 2008 - 1:31 pm 192. Ditto:

Terri writes:…I heard that she has not even spoken to the voters… What do you think about this?I think you might be interested in reading this account of real people interacting with Gov. Palin.You might also tell your daughter that if she keeps watching, she’ll see Gov. Palin, as the vice-presidential candidate, give more interviews in 8 weeks to biased, unfriendly media outlets than the top of the democratic ticket gave in 11 months. (Mr. Obama sat for 2 interviews on Fox.)

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:02 pm 193. Ditto:

Terri writes:…I heard that she has not even spoken to the voters… What do you think about this?I think you might be interested in reading about Kurt, Margie, Nolan and Chloe in Pittsburg who called into the Rush Limbaugh show about their interaction with Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain.
You might also tell your daughter that if she keeps watching, she’ll see Gov. Palin, as the vice-presidential candidate, give more interviews in 8 weeks to biased, unfriendly media outlets than the top of the democratic ticket gave in 11 months. (Mr. Obama sat for 2 interviews on Fox.)

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:06 pm 194. JimB:

say god,

Your name makes you an imbecile. But it does explain your support for the Christian, Obama. I am awake, and I will note vote for the charlatan, Obama, this time.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:11 pm 195. jay:

TroopLover: 1980 – 1983 please. 2 years in Germany, 8 mos. Fort Bragg. Boot Camp in Fort Bliss Texas. IHAWK Fire Control Operator. Honorable Discharge. So excuse me I meant to say I served in the Army. Thanks for making me proud.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:19 pm 196. jay:

TroopLover: By the way. What did I say? I noticed insults being thrown around, I don’t appreciate the term “retard” for reasons I wont explain here, so I said “This is getting boring. I’m moving on. See ya’ll later. Remember to VOTE. Peace out” and someone just downright insults me for it. Now I really don’t care except it was uncalled for. If your going to insult me do it for reasons I deserve to be insulted for, there should be other more qualified reasons and maybe more deserved. So that’s it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:32 pm 197. Jeb:

Even if one were to accept the worst interpretation of Obama’s remarks, which many here seem in a hurry to do whenever he speaks, how is calling someone a pig sexist? If he were calling her a pig it would mean he was calling either fat or a glutton. These are not sexist labels.

Palin, whatever else she may be and no matter how much she enjoyed federal pork as mayor and governor, is not a pig.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:40 pm 198. May B Wright:

Right after the lipstick on a pig innuendo, he said you can wrap an old fish in paper and call it change but it still stinks. That “old fish” by any chance wouldn’t be Sarah Barraccuda, would it? You can argue that lipstick on a pig is a common saying, but paper on an old fish is a new one on me. One would have to assume that both of these remarks were intensionally aimed at Governor Palin.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:47 pm 199. schnargley:

Ha! Now the Dem Party has wheeled out its big guns to deal with this pretentious lipstick besmirched sow. Matt Damon, the sexiest man alive and very, very big movie star just did an interview saying that palin was “absurd”… “like some scary movie”…”like some bad Disney movie”….stuff like that…brilliant…everyone should see it. ..the interview…not the bad Disney movie.

This and more statements from big movie stars will win all the women back to us becaue the Dem Party treats women better and because women are suckers for guys like Damon and will believe him cuz he’s cute.

Now we’ve gottem on the run!

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:53 pm 200. gldnldy:

The Obama camp is now on maximum mud-slinging overdrive. Ed Schultz is saying Palin’s religion and religiousness is wacky. Fowler says Palin’s main accomplishment is that Palin has not had an abortion. Obama says he’s more qualified than Palin because he ran a campaign. Desperation time.

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:53 pm 201. Dark Helmet:

javelin little tooth pick,

Have you EVER had a post where you didn’t call someone a talk show host?

Just plug in that toaster baby, it’s bath time!

Sep 10, 2008 - 2:56 pm 202. god:

JimB 9/10 2:11 pm:

Hi, Jim

You should have more respect for a “god”. He watches you all the time and decides your fate . . Ask your god . . . She knows me . . .

Congratulations for being awake! I hope that your future leaders keep you out if wars, unemployment, disease, lousy retirement, lack of freedom, inefficient energy, mediocre education, and unfriendly countries.

You can vote for whomever you want. It’s your right. The past is a reference for the future. Look beyond the borders of your city, your state, your country. The Universe is great . . . You’re dead when you stop learning.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:02 pm 203. MW:

Vitaboy, I claim I am still right, but I can see why you are confused. I should have explained myself better.

You have three clips altogether that you have shown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlR9DNfqGD4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM

I think we both agree that the first and second are more or less the same, since you can see the same people with the same clothes in the background.

The reason the people are different in clip 3 is that the angle is different. You are looking at a completely different part of the audience.

Look at the signs. In the first two, you can see part of the letters “CHA” and underneath it, “we can”.

For the last clip, you see “GE” and “eve in”

They are both part of the same sign, but you are seeing completely separate parts of it in the different clips. That’s why you see different people.

Watching the clips side by side really will make it clearer. You can get them to match up if you open them in two different windows, pause one of them right at the finger moment, play the other from the beginning, and hit play on the first one right when they match. You’ll see that they really are the same event.

Having said all that, I still agree that the pig thing was almost certainly intentional, and the finger thing might have been as well (although I am not really convinced either way). In any case, I think the Messiah is getting a bit rattled.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:09 pm 204. Red Blooded American:

Wow, lipstickgate sure has legs. It’s good we’re focusing on things that matter.

For the record, and after careful study, I have determined that pigs wearing lipstick are, in fact, still pigs. The only question that remains is, why anyone would claim otherwise?

Don’t be surprised if Obama decides to make this phrase the centerpiece of his campaign. Is that a good idea for him? I have no idea. It could probably be spun out in such a way so as to work to his advantage. But let’s hope that doesn’t happen, because it would be exceedingly tedious, even if the phrase is applicable.

The political season is always good for some entertainment, that’s for sure, made all the more entertaining by the fact that an upstart black man with no experience and open marxist and terrorist pedigree is tied in most opinion polls with the white establishment candidate. Of course no one is interested in race anymore, and the last thing one wants to be accused of is playing the race or gender card or even mentioning having any particular advantage “in spades”, but apparently conventional wisdom has it that the black man should handily defeat the white man simply because he is the black man; that because the black man is only tied with the white man two months before the election this is obviously a great victory-in-the making for the white man. There are others who say that the black man isn’t really black, which explains why he is not beating up on the white man more, and is only tied with the white man two months before the election, whatever that means. It is said that a blacker, more authentic black man would be far in the lead, but that this particular black man, who is not actually black but is or is not considered black based on who happens to be talking at any given point, is handicapped by his pathetic level of blackness and is therefore only tied with the strong and virtuous white candidate and his trusted pit bull of an assistant. You would think however that given the huge advantage being black at any level confers, that even the pathetically low black racial percentage of the black candidate would be able to easily overcome the strong and virtuous white candidate, who has a very long record and has run for the presidency numerous times.

This is all wonderfully entertain indeed, and a nice distraction from the fact that the real winner in this election will probably be the party that loses. Think of all the blame that can be heaped on the Democrats if they win. They can be saddled with blame for the financial crisis, melt-down of the dollar, stagflation, terrorism, 9/11, loss of biotech jobs due to stem cell policy, and their vicious slurs against farm animals wearing cosmetic products. And the beauty of this is that it can all be done before the election! Yes, the future Democrat administration can be blamed in advance for creating present problems. It’s a simple trick of time travel which is no problem if you believe. Whereas if the Republicans win, they have nowhere to go really, and the Democrats will be able to sit back and say “remember what we said about pigs in lipstick?” That is unless you believe that somehow a new Republican administration is going to solve the problems it will inherit from the previous Republican administration. As I understand it this will happen by continuing current policies on the international front, and by vetoing most spending bills that come across the President’s desk, and letting the world know the names of the people who put spending proposals into bills seemingly unrelated to the main thrust of the bill, to be determined by the judgement of the president. This will cause the entire political establishment to cease and desist its current form of appropriations, because the president will shame anyone who has the nerve to bundle spending appropriations together into large bills. No, the president needs to go over each item carefully, with the proverbial fine-toothed comb, and Congress needs to submit tens of thousands of spending appropriations to do the nation’s business. Yes, this sounds like a great plan. “You will know their names!”

It’s going to be entertaining, folks.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:13 pm 205. cedarford:

More good stuff as Obama worshippers drag their Messiah down into the sexist and anti-Christian tar pits.

The head of SC Democrats said that Palin’s primary qualification for VP appears that she had not had an abortion.

How would she know?
And is the presumption that Geraldine Ferraro, Hillary Clinton had to have had abortions in order to be considered a Democrat VP?

To put it in a nutshell, I don’t see how abortion is a fundamental constitutional right which must be defended at all costs when Democrats bring it up, but a stupid footlish distraction from the important issues when Republicans bring it up.

Not to be outdone, Steve Cohen, D-Tennessee had this gem on the House floor.

If you want change, you want the Democratic Party,” said Cohen. “Barack Obama was a community organizer like Jesus, who our minister just prayed about. Pontius Pilate was a governor.”

Which I guess has the following messages appropo to Cohen and HIS faith:

1. Obama is like Christ, because he organized people. But Jews said Christ wasn’t a prophet.

2. Concluding Christ was a false Messiah, the Jewish elites condemned Christ to death for heresy and dragged him to the Roman Governor for dispatching.

3. Pilate didn’t want to kill Jesus, but there is only so much a governor can do.

4. For now, liberal Jews like Cohen believe Obamessiah has committed no heresy.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:22 pm 206. avoidswork:

So Palin needs unbiased Media Outlets to get out her message? How chintzy is she? “Oh, mean people want to ask me tough questions! No! I have to talk to the very friendly Charlie Gibson at ABC so he’ll be nice and not ask me tough questions like Troopergate, hiding emails regarding Troopergate, keeping Bridge to Nowhere money, charging Alaska per diems while staying at home, charging Alaska money for family to travel, etc.”

Lipstick. Boo hoo! Obama mean and church lady nice.
Or, he used phrases that McCain has used in the past AND are *very* uncommon

It is pathetically, tragically sophomoric the way the mccain/PALIN camp cries foul. Guess who is directing the fouls? The same people who GWB had on his 2000 campaign payroll.

Republican Reform/Change = Bush/Cheney = mccain/PALIN

Gotta lo-ove the hypocrisy.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:33 pm 207. RE:

Wow, lipstickgate sure has legs. It’s good we’re focusing on things that matter.

It’s not the lipstick that matters or even the intent, but rather another in a growing string of very un-presidential bad judgments.

Sep 10, 2008 - 3:36 pm 208. Chuck Pelto:

TO: jay
RE: So…

…you wanna talk trash HERE where you made that earlier remark?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. Glad to hear you ’served’. Question is WHERE, WHEN, and HOW?

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:00 pm 209. Rachel Peepers:

Some enterprising woman in our community is starting a gaffe proofing company.

So far she’s invested in 102 rolls of gray duck tape 64 if which were purchased by the Obama campaign along with the easy-to-read instruction booklet. “Gaffe proofing for Dummies.
(political edition)

This is from page two of the book.

“Before, any speech, or speaking event, apply the tape over the candidate’s mouth from three inches past the midline of the edge of one lip to the other side of the mouth with the same three inch overlap.

Then tape the candidates hands behind his back so he can’t get the tape off.

This completes the gaffe proofing process.

When the speech is over, all the tape can safely be removed, assuming all microphones have been turned off.

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:03 pm 210. Rachel Peepers:

Palin Energizing Women From All Walks of Life

By Anne E. Kornblut
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 10, 2008; A04

CHARLESTON,Il,Sept. 9 — Rachel Peepers is a Republican, a student at the local university yet a woman with some definite views on the present political race for the Presidency. This will be her first time casting a ballot, but now — because of Sarah Palin — she thinks she is part of something much bigger.

“I wouldn’t even call it a Palin movement, I’d call it a sleeping giant that has been awakened,” Rachel,19, said at a rally here Tuesday. She described its members as a silent majority of women in Middle America “some of whom are still in school, others of which are raising families, who work if we have to, but love our country and our families first.”

“And until now, we haven’t had anyone to identify with,” Rachel said, adding that traditional feminist groups such as the National Organization for Women do “not represent me.”

Peepers, apparently as good at sound bites as she is at writing biting commentary for the school paper, says that Sarah Palin does more than make her proud to be a woman.

“She makes me prouder than ever to be an American.”

Sep 10, 2008 - 4:19 pm 211. It Was Sexist. Or Possibly Racist. « Tai-Chi Policy:

[...] I don’t know if Obama meant the comment to refer to Palin directly, or if he’s become so obsessively worried from his campaign’s tanking numbers that he can’t help but subcon… whenever he doesn’t have a teleprompter in front of him, but it doesn’t matter. His [...]

Sep 10, 2008 - 5:38 pm 212. Sissy:

I do see the appeal in Obama. He may not be a “Kennedy” but he is appealing. John McCain, on a personal level, isn’t very appealing. Sarah Palin has energized Republicans. I am a registered Republican. I voted Democratic in my state election. I am sorry I did. However, I have been angry at my Republican representatives also.
I do not believe that EITHER party is 100% in touch with the people… However, our country is so large, so many people…no one will ever be in touch with everyone.

We do not have a direct democracy…we have the Electoral College…our founding fathers created this, to allow the more educated, perhaps more ‘intelligent’, to have an over-riding voice, in elections. Perhaps, because they realised that so many uneducated citizens, could be swayed by propaganda, and were unable to read, and so uninformed about the issues that would affect Americans,they designed our system in this manner, etc. Is there really any difference now?
I teach high school, special education students. They are great kids, but rather uninformed, and willing to ‘follow’…anyone, who might out-think them..”persuade” (brainwash) them! They are the masses who are easily manipulated! By and large, they do not vote…we have many discussions in class about government, elections, issues. They simply do not understand, and they do not care. They want an I-Phone, or some new sneakers! Who cares about the President!!
This is not unique to America. This is a fact of life, as humans.
But living in a Republic, having an opportunity to vote, I cannot allow the ‘masses’ to dissuade me! It is unique in many parts of the world to have the opportunity to express my desire(s) via voting….Exercise that voice, and be thankful for it.

I personally believe that the Electoral College should be abolished…but where in the WORLD do you see a “direct democracy?” I see the polls putting McCain ahead of Obama in DIRECT VOTES/Popular Votes…but Obama with MORE Electoral Votes….how in heaven’s name have we let this continue into the 21st century?
But, do we WANT to allow uneducated, functionally illiterate people to vote, and have a say on who becomes our President???
Food for thought..

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:32 pm 213. nlcatter:

palin is the lipstick they tried to put on McCains pathetic record -

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:33 pm 214. JMS:

Obama says that the McCain camp irritation over his lipstick comment is a “pathetic attempt to play the gender card.” Why does the think that? Because of the lipstick? This isn’t a gender issue. It’s a rudeness issue. He is collapsing, and he wants to blame Palin. Actually, he wants to blame McCain for choosing Palin and showing Obama how wrong he was for not choosing Hillary. Obama’s ego is just too big to share the historic nature of his candidacy with anyone else who might also make this race historic. He thought he eliminated that possibility by not choosing Hillary as his running mate. Oops.

Sep 10, 2008 - 7:49 pm 215. f4skyhawk:

Hmmm as usual when times get hard you find out who the standup people are….. I know you all would like to see a black man lose but it aint going to happen. Because despite you scared of your shadow dems or poutimg HRC supporters Barack will pull through with his real supporters and not you fair weather- things have to going right all the time posers and cry babies

Geeee run home to your mamas

Sep 10, 2008 - 8:27 pm 216. Believer:

I think it’s instructive to compare the two candidates. When they’re under pressure — and when things aren’t going too well for them. It’s a pretty good clue to character.

Right now, Obama has reason to worry. No doubt about it. Many of us see him suffering a meltdown — striking out at his opponents as he watches them overtake him. Behaving badly and making poor judgments — or, at the very least, gaffes he neither admits to nor apologizes for.

And then we have the memory of McCain at an incredibly low point in the primaries. A man whose candidacy pretty much everyone had written off. In far more trouble than Obama is today.

I recall a video of him at that time. And there he was — soldiering on — briskly walking through an airport, alone, and carrying his own bags. Without money, there was no entourage alongside him.

He didn’t collapse in panic or despair. He didn’t strike out in anger and desperation. He made adjustments to his new circumstances. And he kept on going – with determination – his eye ever on the goal.

“We’re Americans and we never give up,” he recently told us.

I hadn’t thought until now that he’s given us himself as the example. That’s what leaders do. How they inspire us.

He’s the man in this contest — the one who’s ready to lead.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:53 pm 217. Burkewitch:

For Susan
http://www.stemcelltherapies.org/umresearch/downs.html

Point taken nontheless.

Sep 10, 2008 - 9:59 pm 218. nlcatter:

sissy – a good post for a change – thanks

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:03 pm 219. nick:

all walks of life?

she was ALREADY a GOPer

god you are pathetic.

OH!!!! DId I call god pathetic? that is what you morons would interpret!

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:04 pm 220. god:

Sissy 9/10 3:36 pm:

You put in more words what I tried to tell these bloggers. I fully agree with you.

Kids learn from their parents and sometimes from teachers (about politics). My family had people on opposing sides and got into intense discussions. They didn’t just talked about politics, they were into it by being candidates for mayor, high-ranking military, medium-ranking military, professionals, etc. (Military people in other countries can have strong political opinions, and in real life, they may act on them).

And that’s right, the electoral college will determine the semi-democratic contest . . .

I bet your students are talking more about the “lipstick” than issues that concern them. We just hope they learn and grow up.

Sep 10, 2008 - 10:07 pm 221. Ed Wallis:

“sissy,” There is “direct democracy”, as you say, in Switzerland. It works at a very small scale. An Electoral College, another part of our democratic REPUBLIC, works well here, even at the scale of this land.

“f4skyhawk,” Thank you for being so openly honest about your racism; it helps everyone to understand what is at the heart of the “genuine” support for Barack Obama.

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:19 pm 222. Frieda:

THERE IS ACTUALLY A BLOG DEDICATED TO OBAMAS GAFFES

HTTP://WWW.OBAMASGAFFES.BLOGSPOT.COM

Sep 10, 2008 - 11:40 pm 223. chicago:

nlcatter:
palin is the lipstick they tried to put on McCains pathetic record -

if McCain’s record is pathetic, Obama’s record must be downright…..errr…uhhh…what record?

As Guiliani said “on the other resume, we have a young man who went to an Ivy League school and worked as a community activist……..uh…what?

I guess affirmatice action can get you a spot in Harvard and pave your way to a presidential campaign, but it still can’t give you an instant credible record to stand on.

Sep 11, 2008 - 12:02 am 224. Marina:

Obama is a lawer. He knows perfectly well what to say and how to say, so the other will understand what do you mean but nobody will be able to sue you for this. What he forgets is America is not a court. Americans don’t have to PROVE whether he ment Sarah or not. Americans just believe and vote. Very soon, I hope, Obama will understand it and will try to PROVE to the voters he didn’t mean her, but it’ll be too late. Actually it’s alredy too late. Does he really hope to bring his ex-supporters back this way? OMG. Unlike “Stand up, Chuck!” or “Barack America” this gaffe isn’t even funny. I hope it’ll backfire very soon.

Sep 11, 2008 - 2:04 am 225. Chuck Pelto:

TO: jay
RE: Service

1980 – 1983 please. 2 years in Germany, 8 mos. Fort Bragg. Boot Camp in Fort Bliss Texas. IHAWK Fire Control Operator. Honorable Discharge. So excuse me I meant to say I served in the Army. — jay

Okay. I see this now. Good on you. Please accept my apology for identifying your initial comment I remarked upon as being rather childish.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. What units? I ask because I don’t recall a IHAWK unit at Fort Bragg….which I left a tour with the 82d in December 1979……

Sep 11, 2008 - 5:17 am 226. phil:

If the Mccain camp didn’t complain about it, it being the commonly used expression:
“lipstick on a pig”, a phrase used by both Karl Rove and John McCain many times, or at least their speech writers, there wouldn’t be this long thread of opinion. It wouldn’t be an issue. It would die on the vine. Thanks John McCain, it’s a great lesson about cliches for speech writers and politicians everywhere. I’m glad we’re outraged about the issues that effect Americans most…political insults?!. I have a roommate that’s from another country, he’s here doing medical research. Last night as we watched this “story”, he looked at me and said: “is this really the news in your country?” Yes, at least to some people, I said sheepishly.

Sep 11, 2008 - 6:21 am 227. jay:

Chuck Pelto, Forgetabout it. I was a bit of an a-hole yesterday, must have been having a bad day which seems pretty petty compared to what we are remembering today so my apologies to you. Yea we were there at Fort Bragg part of the 32nd , which I think was part of the 101st ADA. That was 25 +\- years ago so my memory may be lacking. Most of my time was served in beautiful Wildflecken Germany an ex SS training camp in the Fulda Gap. This is a good day though to remember the men and woman of our Armed Services serving in truly dangerous places not scenic Germany so GOD Bless them and GOD speed.

Sep 11, 2008 - 6:33 am 228. Ex-fetus:

“It wouldn’t be an issue. It would die on the vine.”

Evidence please! This sounds like wishful thinking to me. I think it is the same sort of wishful thinking Kerry used against the Swift Boaters and speaking of Boats, who was the guy that caught with some Honey not his wife on a boat named ‘Monkey Business”. Hart?
Then to move across the great divide to the Republican side of Congress, the is the former Senator Allen and his off the cuff slur against somebody. Considering the considerable number of wars that have started because somebody said something wrong or something they shouldn’t have, loose lips is a valid reason to disqualify a Presidential candidate.

They still there? 34 days and counting

Sep 11, 2008 - 7:03 am 229. bajema:

Spot on. This article nails the obvious: if Zerobama can’t handle the heat of some tame comments during campaigning, he can’t handle being POTUS.

Sep 11, 2008 - 9:07 am 230. Mike D.:

People keep telling me that Mccain is going to be different than Bush. How? Mccains campaign was going nowhere until the first team took over. The Bush 00 and 04 team are doing a masterful job runnning John as an agent of Change. What did John Mccain have to promise to get their help? How can you get rid of lobbyists when they are running your campaign?

Sep 11, 2008 - 9:39 am 231. phil:

You’re right, it is wishful thinking to think
that US politics can evolve beyond whining about things that have nothing to do with real issues
or goverment.
Obama’s words would have died on the vine if it wasn’t
picked by someone from the vine and displayed for public consumption or derision, it’s like a smoke screen. Whenever there’s an accusation of wrong doing I ask myself: who’s making the accusation? In other words, who’s starting the drama? who’s focusing on the negative? who’s stirring the pot? where is the stink originating from? Then I ask myself, why is the accusers mind focused where it is? It’s all just political
tactics, the same tired, partisan shit we’ve had to deal with for years. It’s boring. It makes me think of my nieces and nephews when they play in the yard, inevitably one starts crying and I have to go out and break up the fight. I say “What’s the matter?”, “He called me a pig!”. I
say: “that’s not nice, you should apologize.”
I then drop it, because it’s not their lives
i’m dealing with, it’s not their health, it’s not an issue of their education, it’d be childish to persist.
But it makes sense that a alleged personal insult is focused on, the issues are too complex, and when it comes to issues, the side that’s focusing on the negative usually doesn’t
have a leg to stand on.
Usually when there’s nothing bad to say, the opposite side gets personal. I don’t mind hearing
about differences in real issues, but it’s hard to get to those issues with all of this silly noise. i guess i’m just as guilty by responding to this.
It’s all so boring it makes me crazy.

Sep 11, 2008 - 9:46 am 232. Ex-fetus:

“who is not actually black but is or is not considered black based on who happens to be talking at any given point,”

Factually inaccuracte RBA.
The USA government has a standard formula it uses to determin minority status for gaining entitlements. That is so white people cannot get government funds earmarked for black people. There used to be a quota system to make sure unqualified black people got into the better universities.
By those standards, Ohhhh,,,,Bama is ‘white’, since the US Government considers Arabs to be white. While I have no evidence, I suspect that is why the Chosen one won’t get up off his birth certificate. If it turns out he is Arab, then he committed fraud to get into Harvard. Not the sort of issue one wants to address in October when one is running for POTUS.

“The first method of estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at
the men he has around him.”
- Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

Sep 11, 2008 - 5:22 pm 233. Patterico’s Pontifications » Obama’s Campaign as a Measuring Stick for His Executive Experience:

[...] have urged American voters to judge Obama on the way he’s run his Presidential campaign, but Jennifer Rubin writing at Pajamas Media isn’t impressed: “Has he shown grace under pressure? Not [...]

Sep 11, 2008 - 8:44 pm 234. dominmatrix:

Hey, if you want to check out the astrological breakdown between Palin and Obama, check out http://www.robertphoenix.com

Sep 11, 2008 - 9:36 pm 235. bobby b:

“Do you have to be conscious about which finger you’re going to use to scratch yourself?”

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Uh, Ed? Dude? If you’re standing at a podium, holding a microphone attached to a very powerful and loud and accurate sound system . . .

. . . and thousands of people are staring at you and listening to every beat of your heart and every sound you utter, and, right at that exact minute . . .

. . . you just happen to make a wishy-washy comment about your nemesis – the exact nemesis those thousands have specifically shown up to hear be trashed by you – and you smile slyly at the sea of folk around you . . .

. . . and then you reach up close to your face where your hand will be within inches of what’s known as “center stage”, and will thus appear in the camera shots, some of which are being broadcast and some of which are being shown on big screens in the hall in which you’re speaking right then and there . . .

. . .and you take THAT opportunity to, sadly, scratch yourself with only one extended finger, which, also sadly, happens to be THE finger . . .

. . .uh, then, I’m thinking you’ve already made an excellent showing of critical awareness.

Sep 12, 2008 - 8:35 pm 236. god:

bobby b 8:35:

The Peruvians didn’t get it . . .

Sep 12, 2008 - 8:50 pm 237. Jeff:

To those of you who have family, friends, or relatives in the Armed Forces serving in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is imperative that I mention these facts below to you. I welcome you all to do your own research on this or Google it.

For a man to be an ex POW in Vietnam who has endured so much torture and punishment and who promotes “Country First” on his campaign, his history should lead him to do better for his fellow men and women in the Armed Forces but here are the FACTS below —

1) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of more spending for the protection of our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
2) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of deploying more armor and artillery for our troops, both in Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
3) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation and more medical benefits to our injured troops returning from Afghanistan and Iraq, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.
4) For every GI Bill that is proposed to Congress in favor of giving more compensation to our veterans of all the past wars, McCain has voted AGAINST it and Obama has voted FOR it.

Please look over these FACTS and do your own research. For a man to promote character, wisdom, and the love for his country; the facts don’t coincide with this man.

This Election 2008 is a colorless election. It is about two human beings that want to lead our country, either in the right direction or in the wrong direction. We have lived the wrong direction for 8 years and have been in the wrong side of history throughout that time. Do we want to live it again?

Sep 12, 2008 - 9:42 pm 238. Chuck Pelto:

TO: Jeff
RE: GI Bill???!?!

Jeff,

Do you have ANY idea what the GI Bills are about? They are not about support of the active Army.

RE: These Bills….

….that you are touting.

Please provide their identity numbers so we can validate your claims.

Not that I don’t think you believe what you’re saying is accurate, but all too often I’ve encountered people who have little idea of what they’re talking about {nudge-nudge, wink-wink} (see above).

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[One person tells a lie and a thousand repeat it as the truth.]

Sep 13, 2008 - 8:48 am 239. Ed Wallis:

“Jeff”,

The poster “888″ already debunked your identical post in another thread.

If you really don’t have more to add, stay at

http://www.highlights.com

Sep 13, 2008 - 1:04 pm 240. cheryl b:

Sure looked to me like he gave Hillary the finger. And it sure sounded to me like he called Sarah Palin a pig. Maybe they reminded him of his typical white grandmother.

Sep 13, 2008 - 6:09 pm 241. cheryl b:

Actually I”m rather surprised that one of the cosmetic companies has not teamed up with Sarah Palin yet.
I’m thinking that a nice shade of red called Palins Pitbull Passion would be rather nice, or how about
a lucious shade of pink appropriatly
called, Palins Pink Pig Power, guaranteed to make men squeal! oink

Sep 13, 2008 - 6:38 pm 242. Ann:

Little puzzle regarding national security issues:

Obama for various reasons would never pass the FBI test to become an FBI agent and for sure would never make it to a secret service agent, like one of those currently protecting him! Reasons: e.g. e.g. the Annenberg Files, his association with Ayers , that 20 year church, his indonesian citizenship..

So if he would be in the White House, basically those that have to guard top secret information have to show it to someone who cannot pass the clearance.

Would you trust this person this information and the keys to the nukes?

Sep 13, 2008 - 10:17 pm 243. Jeff:

To Chuck Pelto posted Sep 13, 2008 – 8:48 am; and Ed Wallis posted Sep 13, 2008 – 1:04 pm,

My reference to “GI” was more general than specific and what I meant by “GI” was “government issue” or “general issue” bills and not by reference to our WWII GI’s alone.

One thing that I noticed about a lot of you Right Wingers is that you only see what you want to see and not apply yourselves to even look at the whole picture. Our country will have the same mentality for another 100 years if you guys stay in office while other countries like China, India, EU, Japan, etc., will just pass us by economically. So here is my wisdom for you to look at below —

***Conservatism is the tired old need to hang on to the past while liberalism is a need for change for a brighter future.***

You conservatives REALLY want to hang on to the past but, WAKE UP, it’s 2008 going 2009 already!

Sep 14, 2008 - 1:16 am 244. Jeff:

People, Obama’s proposal of “Change” is looked at by our conservative ole timers as a HUGE threat and they will say anything, do anything, to promote against it. They are incapable of change or even the slightest chance of accepting it – think “Ed Wallis” in these posts.

For people who are in their 40s and below, you know, within your heart, that McCain is not taking us in a new direction but rather, he will take us in the exact same direction as we are today. He will stay in Iraq for as long as it takes. We might even go to war with Iran and might even have diplomatic problems with Russia, under his watch. There is already a slight hint of that with Palin’s interview with Charlie Gibson on ABC.

Sep 14, 2008 - 2:12 am 245. Ed Wallis:

“Jeff,”

A “new direction” does not necessarily mean a GOOD new direction.

Obama’s SOCIALIST policies (massive wealth distribution within the USA and his 13-year plan to give $845 billion of the USA to “poor” countries) and
SUICIDAL DEFENSE and ENERGY policies (weakening the military in this era of terrorism, focusing solely on “alternative” sources of energy while shutting the door on many American-based sources)
are not the sort of “change” any sane person would wish for.

You write, “McCain…might even have diplomatic problems with Russia…”. Well, DUH. That comes with the job description of President of the United States of America. Yet, you seem to silently suggest that Zerobama would not “have diplomatic problems with Russia.” With this, you expose yourself not only as a useful idiot (Google it, sonny boy), but as someone with no remorse or regret about dragging his entire country into a position of suicidal vulnerability.

I, and many who post here, will not allow you to do so without a fight.
__________

I also wonder, “Jeff”, if you truly feel this way, why you would post the following over at the “Charlie Gibson thread”:

“Charlie Gibson is a liberal elitist fool.
His condescending arrogance during his interview with VP nominee, Sarah Palin, was palpable.
The liberal, mainstream media are in a tizzy over Sarah Palin. They have no idea of how to deal with such a woman – a woman of substance and integrity.
This media will continue to attack and try to trap the VP nominee. I believe that she handled Charlie Gibson’s obnoxious demeanor quite well.
I have all of the confidence in the world in Governor Palin.
It is my hope and prayer that she and John McCain win the election on 11/4.”

Sep 14, 2008 - 4:40 am 246. Jeff:

Ed Wallis posted Sep 14, 2008 – 4:40 am,

As I have replied to you in other posts that the other Jeffs are mere doppelgangers of me who are truly misguided just like you. I am true to my beliefs and are exposing facts while you are exposing lies. I do not believe that the American public is that stupid. They will do their own research to either debunk me or to find the REAL truth themselves.

As far as the doppelganger Jeffs, I would not be surprise if that was you posing as me, Ed Wallis.

Sep 14, 2008 - 6:30 am 247. Ed Wallis:

I’m Ed Wallis and I am truly misguided and stupid. Did I prove my theory to you now, Ed?

Sep 14, 2008 - 6:31 am 248. Ed Wallis:

I apologize Jeff but I have been wrong. The people of America should read these posts but should also DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH to check for facts from propagandas. Again, my apologies, Jeff.

Sep 14, 2008 - 6:38 am 249. Ed Wallis:

THANK YOU JEFF, FOR SHOWING me that others may misappropriate my name on this site.

THE TWO ABOVE QUOTES are NOT from ME, but from “Jeff” to prove a weakness in PJM’s structure.

Sep 14, 2008 - 1:03 pm 250. Ed Wallis:

NOTE TO “Jeff”: I have alerted PJM of this deficiency and hope that they correct it immediately.

NO ONE sould speak for you than YOU or me than ME.

AGREED?

Sep 14, 2008 - 1:09 pm 251. Jeff:

Yes Ed,

I agree that there is a weakness in PJM’s structure where you can pose as me and then use that same post to debunk me as a hypocrite who flip flops by posting that all over PJM.

Sep 14, 2008 - 2:47 pm 252. Ed Wallis:

“Jeff” I have NEVER POSTED as you. You assume incorrectly. No idea who did.

…SPRAYING T R O L L – B E – G O N E ON THE KEYBOARD….

Sep 14, 2008 - 4:41 pm

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